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OpenOffice 641d Released, Next Stop: 1.0
Damek writes "In the spirit of the proliferating news about Office alternatives and 1.0 versions this week, OpenOffice.org has released a new version of OpenOffice, 641d, the last planned release before 1.0. They're calling for help in pinning down and eradicating final bugs before they hit the big milestone: "...we would like you to download it, test it, and finally vote on the feature set.""
eat me
Its takes almost as long to start up OpenOffice as it does to start Linux.
Hail to the king, baby!
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How fucking cool.
I love OS_X i have recently switched to OS_X from many years with windows. If i were a more advanced developer i would help but i wouldnt want to use my code.
Anyone know what the status of the OS_X port is ? I know star division was supporting Mac OS.
Why does this get modded down as flamebait?
This is a serious issue
In my experience advanced operating systems like windows load significantly faster in the GUI department than operating systems primarily based around the command line.
If linux is ever going to storm the desktop market they are going to have to address issues of GUI responsiveness.
Whatever happened to porting OpenOffice to GTK? Was this ever seriously considered or did I just imagine it?
I recently had to convert 100 pages of M$-Word to Latex. There was loads of mathematics in it, and Open Office helped me a great deal in seeing what the original looked like, since i don't have any M$ on my machine.
OVERCOMING MASTURBATION
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The attitude a person has toward his problem has an effect on how easily it is overcome. It is essential that a firm commitment be made to control the habit. As a person understands his reasons for the behavior, and is sensitive to the conditions or situations that may trigger a desire for the act, he develops the power to control it.
We are taught that our bodies are temples of God, and are to be clean so that the Holy Ghost may dwell within us. Masturbation is a sinful habit that robs one of the Spirit and creates guilt and emotional stress. It is not physically harmful unless practiced in the extreme. It is a habit that is totally self-centered, and secretive, and in no way expresses the proper use of the procreative power given to man to fulfill eternal purposes. It therefore separates a person from God, and defeats the gospel plan.
This self-gratifying activity will cause one to lose his self-respect and feel guilty and depressed, which can in the extreme lead to further sinning. As a person feels spiritually unclean, he loses interest in prayer, his testimony becomes weak, and missionary work and other Church callings become burdensome, offering no joy and limited success.
To help in planning an effective program to overcome the problem, a brief explanation is given of how the reproductive organs in a young man function.
The testes in your body are continuously producing hundreds of millions of reproductive cells called spermatozoa. These are moved up a tube called the vas deferens to a place called the ampulla where they are mixed with fluids from two membranous pouches called seminal vesicles and the prostate gland. The resultant fluid is called semen. When the seminal vesicles are full a signal is sent to the central nervous system indicating they are ready to be emptied. The rate at which this filling takes place varies greatly from one person to another, depending on such things as diet, exercise, state of health, etc. For some it may be several times a week, for others twice a month, and for others hardly ever.
It is normal for the vesicles to be emptied occasionally at night during sleep. This is called a "wet dream". The impulses that cause the emptying come from the central nervous system. Often an erotic dream is experienced at the same time, and is part of the normal process. If a young man has constantly masturbated instead of letting nature take its course, the reproductive system is operating at a more rapid pace, trying to keep up with the loss of semen. When he stops the habit, the body will continue to produce at this increased rate for an indefinite period of time, creating sexual tensions and pressure. These are not harmful and are to be endured until the normal central nervous system's pathway of release is once again established.
During this period of control several things can be done to make the process easier and more effective. As one meets with his priesthood leader, a program for overcoming masturbation can be implemented using some of the suggestions which follow. Remember it is essential that a regular report program be agreed on, so progress can be recognized and failures understood and eliminated.
SUGGESTIONS
1. Pray daily, ask for the gifts of the Spirit, that which will strengthen you against temptation. Pray fervently and out loud when the temptations are the strongest.
2. Follow a program of vigorous daily exercise. These exercises reduce emotional tensions and depression and are absolutely basic to the solution of this problem. Double your physical activity when you feel stress increasing.
3. When the temptation to masturbate is strong, yell stop to those thoughts as loudly as you can in your mind and then recite a pre-chosen scripture or sing an inspirational hymn. It is important to turn your thoughts away from the selfish need to indulge.
4. Set goals of abstinence, begin with a day, then a week, month, year, and finally commit to never doing it again. Until you commit yourself to never again you will always be open to temptation.
5. Change in behavior and attitude is most easily achieved through a changed self-image. Spend time every day imagining yourself strong and in control, easily overcoming tempting situations.
6. Begin to work daily on a self-improvement program. Relate this plan to improving your church service, to improving your relationships with your family, God and others. Strive to enhance your strengths and talents.
7. Be outgoing and friendly. Force yourself to be with others and learn to enjoy working and talking with them. Use principles of developing friendships found in books such as How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie.
8. Be aware of situations that depress you or that cause you to feel lonely, bored, frustrated, or discouraged. These emotional states can trigger the desire to masturbate as a way of escape. Plan in advance to counter these low periods through various activities, such as reading a book, visiting a friend, doing something athletic, etc.
9. Make a pocket calendar for a month on a small card. Carry it with you, but show it to no one. If you have a lapse of self-control color that day black. Your goal will be to have no black days. The calendar becomes a strong visual reminder of self-control and should be looked at when you are tempted to add another black day. Keep your calendar up until you have at least three clear months.
10. A careful study will indicate you have had the problem at certain times and under certain conditions. Try and recall, in detail, what your particular times and conditions were. Now that you understand how it happens, plan to break the pattern through counter-activities.
11. In the field of psychotherapy there is a very effective technique called aversion therapy. When we associate or think of something very distasteful with something which has been pleasurable, but undesirable, the distasteful thought and feeling will begin to cancel out that which was pleasurable. If you associate something very distasteful with your loss of self-control it will help you stop the act. For example, if you are tempted to masturbate think of having to bathe in a tub of worms, and eat several of them as you do the act.
12. During your shower activities, leave the bathroom door or shower curtain partly open, to discourage being alone in total privacy. Take cool brief showers.
13. Arise immediately in the mornings. Do not lie in bed awake, no matter what time of day it is. Get up and do something. Start each day with an enthusiastic activity such as an invigorating masturbation session.
14. Keep your bladder empty. Refrain from drinking large amounts of fluids before going to bed or before masturbating. Urinating right after masturbation can be annoying or moderately painful.
15. Reduce the amount of spices and condiments in your food. Eat as lightly as possible at night.
16. Wear pajamas that are difficult to open, yet loose and not binding.
17. Avoid people, situations, pictures, or reading materials that might create sexual excitement.
18. It is sometimes helpful to have a physical object to use in overcoming this problem. A Book of Mormon, firmly held in hand, even in bed at night has proven helpful in extreme cases.
19. In very severe cases it may be necessary to tie a hand to the bed frame with a tie in order that the habit of masturbating in a semi-sleep condition can be broken. This can also be accomplished by wearing several layers of clothing which would be difficult to remove while half-asleep.
20. Set up a reward system for your successes. It does not have to be a big reward. A quarter in a receptacle each time you overcome or reach a goal. Spend it on something which delights you and will be a continuing reminder of your progress.
21. Do not let yourself return to any past habit or attitude patterns which were part of your problem. Satan never gives up. Be calmly and confidently on guard. Keep a positive mental attitude. You can win this fight! The joy and strength you will feel when you do will give your whole life a radiant and spiritual glow of satisfaction and fulfillment.
STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATION
1. Be assured that you can be cured of your difficulty. Many have been, both male and female, and you can be also if you determine that it must be so.
2. This determination is the first step. That is where we begin. You must decide that you will end this practice, and when you make that decision, the problem will be greatly reduced at once maybe later.
But it must be more than a hope or a wish, more than knowing that it is good for you. It must be actually a DECISION. If you truly make up your mind that you will be cured, then you will have the strength to resist any tendencies which you may have and any temptations which may come to you. After you have made this decision, then observe the following specific guidelines:
1. Never touch the intimate parts of your body except during normal toilet processes
5. Avoid being alone as much as possible. Find good company and stay in this good company.
6. If you are associated with other persons having this same problem, YOU MUST BREAK OFF THEIR FRIENDSHIP. Never associate with other people having the same weakness. Don't suppose that two of you will quit together, you never will. You must get away from people of that kind. Just to be in their presence will keep your problem foremost in your mind. The problem must be taken OUT OF YOUR MIND for that is where it really exists. Your mind must be on other and more wholesome things.
7. When you bathe, do not admire yourself in a mirror. Never stay in the bath more than five or six minutes--just long enough to bathe and dry and dress AND THEN GET OUT OF THE BATHROOM into a room where you will have some member of your family present.
8. When in bed, if that is where you have your problem for the most part, dress yourself for the night so securely that you cannot easily touch your vital parts, and so that it would be difficult and time consuming for you to remove those clothes. By the time you started to remove this protective clothing, you will have sufficiently controlled your thinking and the temptation will leave you.
9. If the temptation seems overpowering while you are in bed, GET OUT OF BED AND GO INTO THE KITCHEN AND FIX YOURSELF A SNACK, even if it is in the middle of the night, and even if you are not hungry, and despite your fears of gaining weight. The purpose behind this suggestion is that you GET YOUR MIND ON SOMETHING ELSE. You change the subject of your thoughts, so to speak.
10. Never read pornographic material. Never read about your problem. Keep it out of your mind. Remember--"first a thought, then an act." The thought pattern must be changed. You must not allow this problem to remain in your mind. When you accomplish that, you soon will be free of the act.
11. Put wholesome thoughts into your mind at all times. Read good books--Church books-scriptures--sermons of the brethren. Make a daily habit of reading at least one chapter of scripture, preferable from one of the four gospels in the New Testament, or the Book of Mormon. The four gospels--Matthew, Mark, Luke and John--above anything else in the Bible can be helpful because of their uplifting qualities.
12. Pray. But when you pray, don't pray about this problem, for that will tend to keep it in your mind more than ever. Pray for faith, pray for understanding of the scriptures, pray for the missionaries, the General Authorities, your friends, your families, BUT KEEP THE PROBLEM OUT OF YOUR MIND BY NOT MENTIONING IT EVER--NOT IN CONVERSATION WITH OTHERS, NOT IN YOUR PRAYERS. KEEP IT OUT of your mind!
nearly 1.0 but no rpms out there ?
I liked it alot, but I had some trouble running it at first. I fiddled with everything to get it to work, finaly I just gave up and started to read slashdot, after a few mins I went down to the taskbar to check the status on a POV render and low and behold there was a button on the taskbar for open office so I checked it out and the damn thing started up. I havn't had a problem sense.
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I hate male masturbation. I'm disgusted by it. I know that most men masturbate, and I'd begin to see a man who masturbates, but I'm looking for a man who either doesn't masturbate or who doesn't condone masturbation for himself and would prefer to live without it. If a man wanted me to seriously consider him a potential mate, he'd probably want to, eventually, completely give up (to whatever extent he may have been involved in them) masturbation, sexual fantasy, and pornography. I make no absolute value judgments about any choices that a man makes regarding these things. I'm just aware of my own personal preferences and values and my need for a man who won't need to masturbate, at least after a while. I just want you to know that if you don't masturbate, or if you'd be able to live without it after getting to know me, I'd consider you a rare gem. (Please don't lie to me about this issue, because if you ever mislead me about anything while we're getting to know each other, there'd be little chance of a lasting relationship.)
Though social pressures may cause many women to hardly appreciate their ideal desires, many women, not all women, for the same reasons that I'd like a man to not masturbate, probably would ideally like a man to not masturbate. To me, male masturbation isn't romantic, it isn't gentlemanly, and it isn't chivalrous.
When a man masturbates, he's demonstrating that sex doesn't mean to him something that is to be experienced only as an expression of love for one woman for the rest of his life. He's demonstrating that sex has a broader meaning for him, and that broader meaning would detract from the special experience that I long to have with my husband someday.
For the same reason, all other things being equal, I'd be able to have greater trust in a man who doesn't masturbate than I could have in a man who masturbates. A man who masturbates doesn't have enough control over his sexual impulses, and I'd have little confidence that he'd resist in an easy opportunity to be unfaithful.
Male masturbation cultivates a pattern of fantasizing, which I'd hate for my man to have imprinted on his psyche. I don't share the prevalent current value that fantasizing is a natural and fun part of a couple's sex life. To me, fantasizing is contrary to the exclusiveness that I seek in love and in the expression of that love through sex. I want my husband to be naturally aroused just by being with me in an intimate setting, and I would feel very sad if my husband ever fantasized while he was making love to me.
Masturbation can contribute to a man's having sexual performance problems when he's with a woman. He can become somewhat dependent on the types of mental and physical stimulation he practices in solo sex, and he may not be able to become aroused as easily without the things that he's used to doing by himself. As I've said elsewhere, I love sex. It's because sex is so important to me that I'm hoping for a marriage with lots of loving affection and unencumbered sex.
True nocturnal emissions and sexual night dreams are natural if and when they occur, and I don't have any problem with them. I don't agree with men who say that a man has to masturbate. A man would have nocturnal emissions if his body needed to have them. If a man doesn't masturbate, he won't get sick. He won't lose any of his ability to perform sexually. Rather, as I've referred to above, he may be more virile when he's with his wife than he'd be if he had had a habit of masturbating.
A man will find it easy enough to not masturbate if he's disciplined in his thinking and lifestyle; that is, if he doesn't dwell on sexual thoughts and if he instead puts them in perspective, looking hopefully to sex in marriage, working proactively toward that goal.
My preference that a suitor not masturbate isn't at all meant to titillate or to create sexual tension. Rather, I'd need a man to sincerely seek to unlearn old attitudes and to replace them with ones regarding a different kind of respect for women and the meaning of sex in a loving, marital relationship.
I'm looking for a rare man who isn't shortsighted about sexual satisfaction, who realizes that, overall, a happily married man is apt to have much more sexual relations in his lifetime than a single man is, and who's willing and able to postpone sexual satisfaction in order to have the happiest possible marriage and the most possible sex with a woman.
I really hope this is sarcasm and not medieval catholicism!
Want to burn some witches too?
Holy Balls! Since when is it secretive? I tell everyone! Pray? I'd rather beat off!
with the recent stories about the implications of star office being charged for, it's good to see that openoffice is setpping up to the plate.
if I were the developers working on openoffice, I'd be thankin my lucky stars(no pun inteded) that sun decided to charge for it. with the growing wave of 'open and free is better' I think they can capitalize on it.
As a former BeOS user, I also noticed gobe productive made the news. sweet.
Now comes the important part. in a month, I'm switching over to a completely linux system, and I'm gonna need a replacement for Office. so who's it gonna be?:)
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If microsoft office didn't come pre-packaged with new computers, who would use office? Why spend a couple hundred bucks?
the only possible reason would be that extremely *cough* cute and helpfull paperclip person/thing
I don't masturbate because I lack the physical organs in order to perform the act. Would I qualify as a potential candidate?
While i like the features of Openoffice, i hate the way the whole thing works. The desktop of Staroffice 5.2 has been removed, but OO is still one big process and the different applications are just modules. If only one of these modules hangs and you have to kill it, all your OO aplications get killed. Another result is, for me starting up the Writer takes as long as starting up the whole 5.2 Desktop.
I hope that this changes in one of the future versions, but i have the feeling that it won't.
Unless they are planning a linux only type release then openoffice is nowhere near version 1, I'm all for software for linux but really it isn't hard to make the code portable enough that it will compile on FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, Solaris, OsX etc. Right now it compiles nicely in NetBSD ports n thats it, the others are all broken. If I was enough of a C hacker I would try and do my bit but my gripe is the portability issue should have been thought of from the start, if it had been then we could be close to a true open source office solution that everyone (nearly) can use.
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I would rather play with this open orifice than use that piece of shit open sores dogcrap.
We were using the StarOffice 6-beta release, but when I heard of the 31-3-02 timebomb in it, we moved to OpenOffice 641C. Of course now there is a patch to extend StarOffice, but we won't be needing it.
The 641 build is quite stable and complete. Oh - except for that Australian dictionary. Maybe I should go make one...
I'm looking forward to the proposed changes to the toolbars (look under the 'Todo' section on their site). Looks very nice. Maybe it will come with a performance improvement too. Hint, hint!!!
havent you heard?
For a package thats 60+ megs to install, shouldnt it at least install without me having to configure it?
./setup
"
glibc version: 2.2.4
/tmp/sv001.tmp/setup.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3: cannot open shared ojbect file: No such file or directory
"
If you use Linux, please help development of Autopac
the release (Linux binaries, Solver tree and sources)?
I'm trying to download it and provide a mirror, but it's impossible yet.
Good work. Keep it coming.
As one might infer from the original post, Open Office is a beta product.
Beta products have been known to have bugs now and again.
The best thing to do when you note a bug is to check and see if it's already been reported. If it hasn't, then you should go ahead and report it.
Complaining does little to make the product better. Reporting (and helping to fix) bugs does much.
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6 38c
6 41b
6 41c
6 41d
Why the version number contained with bra size?
after this is 1.0,
what's next?
1.0PU
1.1
1.1PU
1.2
1.2PU
(PU = Push up)
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Well, there's still that other platform that most open source projects tend to neglect.
One thing I have wondered using OpenOffice (and als o Mozilla) is: How do they manage to make them so slow?! I am a software developer myself and even though I might never have made something as complex as OpenOffice or Mozilla, I can't see how they even manage to make the menues take ages to drop down.
.(StarOffice/Netscape is faster.. at least a little, or am I wrong there?).
My theory (call me paranoid) is that there are time loops in there to make the free version worse than the proprietary version
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I'm interested in Open Office, but the first thing I always look for in a web site about a GUI-based software products is a set of screen shots, and they don't have any. I want to see what the product looks like. It would be really cool if OpenOffice would make some screen shots of their prodict available.
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Why do they even test with RedHat 6.2!?!
Hello! RedHat will be on 8.x soon enough. I know there are a few 6.x workstations still around but come on.
All I know is OpenOffice 641c & d don't work with RedHat 7.2. It starts then quits after a couple of seconds.
It doesn't matter how well it works. The main thing that matters to most people in an MS Office replacement is how well it reads and writes MS Office files. And that's, unfortunately, a moving target.
Doesn't sound like you bring much to the table.
Good luck, Old Maid.
The article says 641D is the production (or near production) version. But if you go to the mirror sites, there's already a 642 version out there.
(Incidentally, neither of the US mirrors are working, but the one from Denmark seemed to work just fine. The links are further down on the page.
You were mistaken. Which is odd, since memory shouldn't be a problem for you
I grabbed 641D a couple of days ago, and I have to say that I'm impressed! Other than a few fonts that I haven't migrated to Linux, it's done a great job with complex tables and formatting.
The only thing that would stop me from using it as my regular word processor is that I can't figure out how to make it use imperial units (inches) instead of metric.
i havent had the chance to use open office, but i found star office to be very slow. mozilla on the other hand is fairly fast. it was slow at first but i believe it has improved alot in the last 6months or so. if you want something a little more light weight, try galeon. it's based on mozilla without all the frills.
-- john
Sorry, gnumeric isn't there yet for replacing Excel
neither is kspread, but they are getting pretty good for simple usage.
I expect that it is only a matter of a few months before it is usable for me
...restrained from exploiting their monopoly...the PC vendors can install openoffice, java, Perl, Mozilla on EVERY PC that they ship....that might give us a base to start with. Perhaps the XML file formats will become the basic document exchange standard...
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After trying the software all I can say is: Wow.
All the menus are pretty much instant, with the exception of the presentation wizard that had to read some files.
Ofcourse I can't say much on realworld use, but the first impression was excellent.
But after using for about 1/2 an hour, I'd say this thing is pretty impressive.
Just a couple of notes:
1) I find the interface a little (stress "little")clunky, but I'm a long time Office user. But I'd get used to it in about a week.
2) The Document default views are awful. I'm going to see if I can mess with this to make it more livable for me.
3) It opens Office XP Spreadsheets, Documents, and Powerpoints pretty well. I haven't thrown the kitchen sink at it though.
4) 1/2 hour isn't long enough to judge stability. But I haven't had any crashes or oddities yet.
This is a good package so far as I've looked. I'm going to try to work in it for the next few days and see if its good enough to recommend to relatives who need MS Office compatibility.
Hats off to these guys. This is excellent work.
You were mistaken. Which is odd, since memory shouldn't be a problem for you
Any reason why there isn't a debian package yet? I heard there was some kind of licensing problem (Maybe java?) Any one knows?
Why doesn't OO be a nice UNIX app and install in /usr/local with a .*rc in the home dir of each user? The way they have it now is like old DOS games where all goes into one directory, which is just silly in a UNIX environment (unless we want everyone installing >60MB apps in their home dir's....)
:-)
:-) Overall, though, hats off and THANK YOU's to the OpenOffice developers who lead the way for a real solution to the open-source office app void.
Also, why can't they include a simple database module with OO? Just something simple, to do simple Access-like db's?
I'll agree that it's too slow, but I think this latest release *is* a nudge faster. A GTK+ port would be wonderful. My general sense, though, is that they're just trying to weed through some questionably written code from waaaay back was it was commented in German.
I also think it makes no sense for developers to work on open-source projects that do the same thing (i.e. KOffice & OpenOffice, Mozilla & Konqueror, GNOME & KDE). Okay yeah, if someone wants a lighter, quicker version of something, that's great, but why start entirely new projects? One of the coolest examples of the *right* way to do stuff like this is the SkipStone browser, on which I'm typing this message. Not that Mozilla isn't getty fairly snappy with the latest milestones, but SkipStone implements the rendering engine without some of the "extras". (Galeon's dependence on GNOME is too weird for me- why have all those dependencies if you're trying to write something light? SS is much lighter anyway; the source tarball is like 400k.)
Okay, I got carried away.
I tried Star Office a year back and gave up because I found it to be too slow. I downloaded 641d for Windows yesterday and find that it is fast, stable and a pleasure to work with. I will try this for another month or so before I finally throw MS-Office out of the window -- no pun intended :) -- but I have to say it is looking very good indeed. Congratulations to the Open Office team.
You can try the ooqstart applet which preloads the Open Office binary for rapid startup.
It can be found on SourceForge: ooqstart.sourceforge.net
Excerpt from the project page:
This applet provides a quick launcher for Open Office 641C+ or Star Office 6.0+. It attempts to mimic the functionality provided by the quickstarter tray icon on the other operating system supported by Open Office.
The program attempts to keep a background process alive at all times, even if that process is terminated by the user. The four main applications: Writer, Calc, Draw, and Impress can be launched directly from the context menu of the applet.
WordPerfect import ability would really help.
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OpenOffice 641C only works for me when I set my windowmanager to use click-to-focus (somthing I dislike).
If I use enter-exit focus then all the menus and dropdown selectors disappear as I move the mouse from the menu/selector title to the menu itself.
this seems to happen irrespective of the window manager I use (even happens without a windowmanager).
Has this changed in 641D?
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This is all just my personal opinion.
Where do you redhat losers get off thinking you count for anything anyway?
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That's not actually a bad idea. A little, annoying, sarcastic penguin, that makes you agree to vote for him before he points out the glaringly obvious UI hints that you have been ignoring, and then staggers back to his igloo to continue drinking smoking and boinking the Dabo twins.
I hope OOFffice 1.0 has native FreeBSD support along with it, because right now I am stuck using StarOffice 5.2, as OOffice 641 won't run.
.. mozilla.. *cough*
-- jbl
No matter how many bugs they expunge, the economics of the office favor MS. If I'm working in a business, and I have one document that doesn't paginate correctly, won't open, renders badly, or must be resent in another format, then the time and expense of dealing with just one problem and trying to prevent it from happening again has cost me as much as I've saved by using a zero cost package instead of MS-Office. And I'm not going to be the one who tells Mr. Big that I can't read his document because he uses Word.
I believe that's because it uses the old MS trick of pre-loading a lot of its stuff. unless you've turned that off...in which case i couldn't tell you why its faster.
Who is this Anonymous Coward character, how does he post so much, and why is he always such a whore?
A few days ago, I posted a quick personal review of OO 641C. I've been impressed by the software, and my main complaint was the speed of the program as a whole.
I can gladly say that 641D has introduced significant speed increases under Linux. Startup time fell by half; whereas I used to wait 20 seconds to get a workspace, I now wait 10 seconds or less. The interface in general has sped up. Things feel much snappier, far less laggy. Dialogs open faster, new windows open faster, the whole thing feels like the developers spent much of their time between releases on optimizations and speed increases. I'm already very impressed.
The one thing I used to dread about starting up OO was the speed. I don't think I'll have any such worries anymore, as it doesn't seem to bog down the system either anymore - or at least, not as much.
I'm a happy user.
Someday, you're going to die. Get over it.
OpenOffice is as bloated as StarOffice. It really needs optimization badly. Is there any way to compile each module separately? For example OpenWriter (15MB). Other module as OpenCalc (10MB).
6 .rpm
I think that would be very nice.
OpenWriter-1.0.i386.rpm
OpenCalc-1.0.i386.rpm
OpenPresentation-1.0.i38
For a while I couldn't figure out how to make the paper size for the printer (File, Printer settings) stay at Letter: it would always switch back to A4 after restarting the application.
/.../OpenOffice.org641/share/psprint/psprint. conf and change line 45 (PPD_PageSize) to "PPD_PageSize=Letter". As far as I know, there is no way to do this from within the application itself.
After some searching, I found the answer: edit file
Also note that this is regarding the Linux version of the 641D release (though it probably works elsewhere).
I still haven't figured out how to change the default style rules without creating (and always having to instantiate) a custom template. If anyone knows how, would you please share? Searching google, google groups, OO.o's issuezilla, and OO.o's mailing lists didn't turn up any good results for me.
Metric vs Imperial is a hard problem, or so it appears to be. Switching between them is always bolted on to a software product as the very last thing, and hard coded defaults have a tendency to rear their ugly heads at the worst moment (especially if you prefer to use the en_US locale for menus and dialogs, but require metric sizes).
I have long believed that every developer should spend time fielding support calls, just to make 'm feel the pain they inflict on their customers.
It just occurred to me that developers should also be encouraged to switch between localization preferences from time to time. Heck, alternating their printers between A4 and Letter sized paper every week would either take a significant bite out of user frustration, or save acres of trees.
Just a thought.
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I find the approach of gobeProductve 3 much more refreshing, that rather than having several apps bundled together (like office/imitations) you rather have all the apps working seemlessly together using worksheets.
When you work on having them distinct, a lot of common functionality has to be repeated. It's just a waste, and promotes the bloat that you so scorn. Making apps completely separate as you advocate makes this even worse.
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Some one sez:
"Miguel de Icaza too has said that time is
better spent on improving OpenOffice rather
than working on say Gnumeric "
And you replied:
"Which is yet another indication that Miguel
has lost the plot. Gnumeric is a stunning
app that could seriously rival Excel."
Very true !
All Gnumeric lacks is the Pivot Table thingy. If Gnumeric acquire that thing, then Gnumeric can really be THE STAR of the Open Source Movement !
But no
"OpenOffice isn't close to rivalling either
Word or Excel any time soon. But Miguel has
long ago forgotten the Unix concept of small
specialized tools, and is heading towards MS
bloat at an alarming pace."
Very true again !
Although Gnumeric is NOT small, it runs like a charm !
Over 99% of my Excel spreadsheet runs on Gnumeric without any hitch. All it needs is the extra 1%, and if that Hanscom suite thing can do Pivot Table, why can't Gnumeric ?
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Considering their current ambivalence towards Bugzilla's voting feature, how exactly is this voting supposed to be done?
I can't say I've read very much about 641D though, so it may be obvious...
Cheers //Johan
Installed the Bubblemon yet?