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Trojans and Popups and Slimeball Business
Selanit writes "Salon.com is reporting
on a company which exploited a vulnerability in an old but common version of Internet Explorer's Java engine to install spyware on the visitor's machine. " It's a pretty in depth story showing the lack of respect that
some companies have. My favorite part is that the guy who denies any knowledge
of the trojan popup is named 'Frank Bigott'.
There are a few things about the article that don't seem to make sense, aside from the basic premise and the guy's name. Is this another internet rumour that slipped into the press? Anyone have real-live experience with this?
Moderation: Put your hand inside the puppet head!
First a virus uses a worm that exploits a vulnerability in Outlook and OE to spread.
Now this.
Ouch.
I love how the article is titled "The Pop-Up Ad Campaign from Hell"--and you get a pop-up when you first visit it. Also a nice Flash ad delay when you hit Back. Yep.
The coolest voice ever.
Isn't it odd that the only Java security exploit to be used in the wild is in the VM produced by Microsoft that didn't obey the Java spec.
Now a cynical person would say that this would enable Microsoft to point at Java and say "Java is insecure" but of course I'm not a cynical person and I'm sure it was purely an accident.
An Eye for an Eye will make the whole world blind - Gandhi
How is this type of cancerware distinguishable from a virus that spreads by exploiting security vunerabilities?
It seems that all the Klez and Chernobyl kiddies have gone and got themselves some venture capital, and are turning their malware into a business.
"Why did they cancel my favorite Sci-Fi show? I downloaded ALL the episodes!"
The interviewer calls him "Mr. Bigott" and then:
Frank Bigott: "Excuse me, but it's pronounced 'Bee-GOH'."
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Remember when "Truth, Justice, & the American Way" wasn't contradictory?
It's so hard to keep track and the champaign has hardly had time to age.
Obligatory: I don't us IE and I disable Java whenever possible.
...a good reason to use an Applet.
"In a 32-bit world, you're a 2-bit user. You've got your own newsgroup, alt.total.loser." -Weird Al
...Call me naive, but why isnt that states attorney general investigating this company? This is nothing short of corporate sponsored hax0ring.
I didnt see any mention in the article of somebody lodging a criminal or even civil complaint.
I think a big reason these companies get away with this crap is that nobody takes them to task for what they are doing...
I lost my concept of community when my community lost all concept of me.
I take it this applies only to Microsoft's implementation and not to Sun's Virtual Machine? Not that Sun's is any more stable...(I run Win98 SE, and it dies on me all the time).
No statement is true, not even this one.
Do people like this sell thier soul to satan? I would like a Cray Computer Im considering selling my soul for it... but i guess satan is backed up with these Popup Companies
"All I can tell the "lesser of two evils" folks is that if they keep voting for evil, they'll keep getting evil."-Lp.org
Are you refering to the lack of respect Microsoft has for those who use their products?
"Try this: Thousands of unsuspecting visitors to a family entertainment site are discovering a cornucopia of unwanted, potentially malicious software on their computers--"
yeah, ok... i bet people running an old version of ie, visiting a family entertainment site, really figured this out on their own.
fuck them
...or -1, flamebait
WHO THE FUCK ARE THESE PEOPLE?! Never heard of a single one of them - figures they'd be polluting the Internet.
Shouldn't these shitty companies have DIED last year?!
I'm a 2000 man.
all those lame server on wwws1.com entries in my log files. My girlfriend's computer got hit by this, and I cleared it out (eventually). Funny, guys who can write these programs to monitor everything you do on the 'net, but can't setup DNS properly.
Maybe I'm just talking out of my ass, but, a web-site that just "installs" a program on my computer unbeknownst to me seems not too unlike me sending company X an email that "installs" a program on their computer unbeknownst to them. Yeah, IANAL and all that bull.
and it reminded me to go buy some more, cause I don't want to catch anything from Cowboy Neal tonight...
There has to be a solution to this sort of problem. About the only way I could get Flowgo to stop SPAMMING my mail server is to call up a buddy of Tony Soprano to break their knees because Flowgo doesn't care and I have never, ever, ever been able to get one of my elected officials or law enforcement agency to pay any interest in Unsolicited Commercial E-Mail. Its not like Flowgo is hiding its behavior either. It should be easy to get them but no one that matters or has the power, gives a damn about this huge waste of bandwidth.
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
It's John Big-Boo-TAY!!!
I have.
Many times: it's why I now use Mozilla (well, that and the tabbed browsing and...and...and...) and Ad Aware.
Mostly it seems to be dialler programs for offshore ISPs. Porn, basically.
Use IE unprotected for a while, then run AdAware - it's quite scary.
People first discovered the virus when they noticed crashing and instability in their systems. So THAT'S what causes it. And all this time I just thought it was crappy software.
Yes.. I know... this is Microsoft Bashing. Mod me down.
-Restil
Play with my webcams and lights here
404: This page not available.
I'm aware, that this doesn't necessarily sit well with a lot of people here, but wtf...
ich bin der musikant
mit taschenrechner in der hand
kraftwerk
I don't read ACs: If a post isn't worth so much as a nom de plume to its author then I wont bother either.
It's about time someone got put away for this sort of crap.
California Penal Code, look for section 502
What would Lemmy do?
With that in mind, if the slimeballs knew that they can target one platform / browser (which is the case now as most normal people use IE anyway), they can devise things like this. Personally I use Mozilla, and tonight I'm converting to Linux, so this won't be much of an issue. I just wish more people knew there were other choices out there besides M$, and then they wouldn't fall victim to this.
"What kind of chip you got in there, a Dorito?" - Weird Al Yankovic
Companies appear to be using more and more dodgy ways to make money from us
Spyware for targetted ads... Scumware for stealing our resources... using exploits to do whatever they like
whats next?
deleting competitors software? (or even worse, dissabling it/making it give incorrect results in such a way that the user doesnt know its been tampered with)
Installing backdoors so they can verify that your not using their software illegaly?
I feel increasingly that we, the consumers, need to have some sort of protected from spyware, scumware, companies who exploit security problems and the next generation of click through "but you signed your kidneys over to microsoft when you bought office!"
I bet the guy who sold his soul for an 8088 screams a little louder than the rest when he dropd dead in about ten years.
although, I admit, all preceding days would have to be pretty bad.
I don't know what's scarier. This article or that a related article at the bottom of this one talks about our "friend" Fritz who wants to "protect" spyware by defining what's sensitive.
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The second is "nonsensitive" information, and among that will include your name, address, and records of anything you buy or surf on the Internet. Under the act, business can't collect or divulge the sensitive bits without your express consent, but anything classified as nonsensitive can be freely collected and sold at will.
End Quote
The article can be found here
as ISP techsupport front line, I hear about this type of stuff all the time. Customers often think the ISP is the culprit and ask us to stop the pop ups. These are the same folks who can't get thier email after messing with firewall settings (not even knowing what a 'port' is). I'm amazed that novice users put up with all that winblows vrus crap. I guess they don't know there's another way to deal with it, until I tell them about Linux.
As a Linux user, my platform doesn't seem to be supported by any of these AdWare/SpyWare applications.
Sometimes it's good to be unsupported, and I think a lot of these novice users might do well on an unsupported platform.
Long live Tux, Defender of the free!
"The Most Fun Possible on 4 wheels" is at SunBuggy in Las Vegas
Don't forget that this happened via Flowgo, spammers extroadinaire, who have no scruples about using the September 11th disaster for their own ends.
Personally, I hope both IntelliTech (misnomer) and Flowgo are prosecuted for this.
It's just a statement with no supporting evidence.
No he was one of the "Gentlemen" in the "Hush" episode in Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
" Coconut milk is easily made if you have a blender or food processor. Boil 1 1/2 cups water. Pour it over 1 1/2 cups of fresh or dry grated coconut. Beat it in the food processor or blender for at least 1 minute. Strain it through a sieve or through cheesecloth"
Mom,
I know that you all are from the midwest and such, but canned coconut milk is readily availible in most liqour stores and specialty food stores. In fact, here in Florida, the damn stuff grows on trees!
You should correct your recipe to reflect that, particulary since this simplifies the preparation by several steps.
What about the next? How trivial would it be to code up some cancerware that gathers addresses from the victim's address book, and sends itself out to them, hidden in some kind of novelty 'Purple Monkey'-type application?
This situation reminds me of a docu-drama they had on the UK's Channel 4 a few years back, set the requisite 20 minutes into the future, about the ultimate video multicasting 'killer-app' that spread itself across the Internet as a virus. When people wanted to view the video files, they found they automatically HAD the right software without needing to run a complicated install.
"Why did they cancel my favorite Sci-Fi show? I downloaded ALL the episodes!"
The article said the flaw exists in an old version of the Java Engine of Microsoft's Internet Explorer...
The M$ bulliten linked on the article and here shows that
The Microsoft VM is a virtual machine for the Win32® operating environment. It runs atop Microsoft® Windows 95, 98, Windows Me, Windows NT 4.0, or Windows 2000. It ships as part of each operating system, and also as part of Microsoft Internet Explorer. The version of the Microsoft VM that ships with Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.x and Internet Explorer 5.x contains a security vulnerability that could allow a Java applet, on a malicious web site to take any desired action on a visiting user?s machine.
Now, to me, Windows 2000 / IE 5.x isn't really OLD , considering that the majority of M$ users have IE 5.x. It may not be "new" like IE 6 or XP, but it doesn't mean 5.x is outdated.
$cat
Shit, this is like Microsoft writes bad code or something...
Can this be true or am I just living a nightmare?
Will we end up removing BOTH programs and installing two million candle-power lights to point up into the night sky to symbolize where these two mighty titans once stood?
Will Bush launch a strike against Redmond killing thousands (or putting them out of there misery)?
IANAL, but I've seen actors play them on TV
This is the first time I can remember seeing a I.E. icon (Mac-style) on a slashdot story. How appropriate that the story is about the most annoying feature of Microsoft's browsing apps: javascript pop-up hell. But seriously, times have never been better for non Internet Explorer browsers: Opera, Konquerer, iCab, Chimera, and Mozilla are all extremely usable at this point.
http://tinyurl.com/4ny52
IANAL but...
:)
If a piece of software *is* malicious spyware, it would be counterintuitive to ask the user to authorize its use and consent to a license agreement.
So -- let's assume that the software exploits the hole and, in the process, causes damage to your machine. Because you did not agree to the usual clickwrap, (software is AS IS, etc etc) could you hold the company liable for this?
Just a thought
Don't know about the other companies, but eUniverse's (EUNI) site says it is "the largest and fastest growing entertainment orientated network on the Internet. With over 19+ million unique visitors per month, it is consistently ranked as one of the Top 15 Most Visited Properties on the Internet by both Nielsen//NetRatings and Media Metrix"
You may remember that, immediately after Sept. 11, a very popular popup making the rounds was for a game called "Yo Mama, Osama". If you clicked the ad and played the game, of course, it installed a spyware app (don't recall which one).
While technically not any different from the way other spyware are distributed, it still tops the list in my book for the sleaziest thing I've yet seen in spyware, i.e., capitalizing on the emotional turmoil for 9/11.
...Oh my!
Trojans and Popups and Slimeball Business
oh MY!!
Trojans and Popups and Slimeball Business
OH MY!!!
*out pops the wicked digital witch of the west*
What bothers me the most, is that Federal Law Enforcement agencies have been going after individuals who crack corprate machines for years -- and hitting them with hard criminal charges (or in some cases, just throwing them in jail without clear or formal criminal charges).
Its clear that the federal government is zealous in its crusade to protect corporate America from "hackers". But who protects individuals from shady companies?
Its also clear that the company behind the trojan popups has engaged in criminal activity...but where the hell is the criminal investigation -- anyone being brought up on charges? At most -- we might see some fiducary damages awarded to someone (but not anyone here -- and not to anybody we know)...but if the feds can throw Kevin in jail -- I want the fuckers responsible for this kind of malicous marketing in jail too...(don't forget spammers either).
-Turkey
-Turkey
the hun It has a warning about exploit a site linked here used.
Investigate this! (warning: lot's of pink images, don't investigate at work).
The extensions MS made to their own version of Java Virtual Machine must be causing these hacks. Since these extensions of Microsoft is not called Java(remember the long lawsuit), it is lame to blame 'Java'.
Ad-aware is a Windows program from Lavasoft that will remove spyware from your computer. It is freeware. There is also a plus version available for a fee that will run in the background and prevent spyware from being installed.
IIRC, "we gotta get it out the door to do our part to help the economy, can't stop now to do the right thing, W.'s counting on us!" -- hmm soft stance of the DoJ... scratch my back, I'll scratch yours? Seems to fit in with the recent pattern of sucking up to industry.
Anyway, RealNetworks (love 'em, hate 'em) gripes are valid, if Microsoft rolls out a "tested and Q/A Approved (the MCSEs all playing solitaire never found any bugs) Final version" and mysteriously competitors products (which you know they've had a keen eye towards making sure all is well) malfunction and look shoddy.
Other than being rich and arrogant, I wouldn't want to be in their shoes.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
Microsoft could do all manner of cock ups, illegal activities and no one would believe it.
It sickening to here how low some people will go to earn a few extra bucks, but such is the world we live in. The real problem is how to deal with it. Many people like to quote that 'all you need to do is run firewall x and anti-virus b' etc. which is fine for the tech savvy, but as we are all painfully aware, the majority is not tech savvy.
:).
I think using a computer should be though of more like using a car than a calculator - no one would dream of sitting in a car and going for a drive before taking some lessons and getting a license (apart from a joyrider perhaps), yet many people phone DELL-U-WANT, order their box and sit down thinking they will be able to browse away, most getting very irrate when it doesn't work out. People need to realise that to use a computer they need to put in time and effort to learn how to first, which is something not helped by all the AOL type adds saying how easy it is.
Another possible fix I like the idea of is to have a 'safe zone' - The WWW is a large and mostly free place, and I for one do not want to see ANY legislation changing that, whether apparently for the better or not. As anyone who lives in a large city nows, you don't go to the bad end of town unless you now how to handle yourself, people will learn to stay in the safe zone. It could work by having a controlling body which hands out domains (here.sfe etc.). Anyone using this site must sign a rigirous contract of use, forbidding any type of exploitation of the vunerable users. Thus, any company exploiting in the domain will be liable through breach of contract, and leaves the rest of the internet free for those of us who now what we are doing. Systems could come with 'IE-safe', which does not allow browsing outside the safe domain, so only someone who knows what they are doing will be able to download full browser and go to the big bad web.
These solutions are far from perfect, and do leave room for exploitation, but I think the're better than the 'I'm safe, I don't care' attitute, and a bit more constructive than 'lets melt the &"%$ in a vat of acid' solution
It's called "Windows Update."
coz Salon's going to get Slashdotted. I guess page widening has gotten boring for you, eh?
An example of this might be name brand T-shirts..
But this puts "viral marketing" in a whole new light...
I have no problem with your religion until you decide it's reason to deprive others of the truth.
Amusingly, the whois information (and hence top-level DNS servers) contain two completely different nameservers, NS1.QUIK-NET.NET and NS2.QUIK-NET.NET. Again only NS2 knows about the domain. This is common with badly configured DNS.
use constant PERL_IS_BROKEN => $] >= 5.006;
The main article doesn't seem to display unless your browser makes some effort to load it's ad.
a re/print.html
Here's a link to the printable version for those who don't want the page indirected flash ad.
http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2002/05/07/malw
Selanit writes "Salon.com is reporting on a company which exploited a vulnerability in an old but common version of Internet Explorer's Java engine to install spyware on the visitor's machine. " It's a pretty in depth story showing the lack of respect that some companies have. My favorite part is that the guy who denies any knowledge of the trojan popup is named 'Frank Bigott'.
The only thing I did was look at the e-mail.
That was more than a year ago.
Fortunately they just replaced my homepage and search page in IE. No spyware.
Well, I don't use IE now anyways, but I use Outlook Express to read my Hotmail account.
Now I just turned off preview screen so I can delete spam and stuff without actualy rendering it.
I hope this company is held accoutable.
There's another company that's nearly as bad: Real Networks. Ever see how much crap they try to install if you're not paying attention?
Our company now has RealPlayer on its banned list, because we consider it a virus.
--
Ask the Ya-Hoot Oracle Anything!
I got a pop up "trojan" for ya right here!
Damn there goes my Karma.
it was only a matter of time before some unscrupulous ***hole took advantage of MS's unscrupulous coding to do something like this. The only surprise I got was that it took this long to happen, and is only now getting into the news. While I use IE for browsing, it's just because of things like this that I long ago disabled all active scripting, uninstalled flash, and never installed the MS virtual machine to begin with.
I also block any ad tracking site from setting cookies or sending popups through the nifty 'security' settings. Every time I find a cookie in my temp internet files that I don't recognize, the host automatically goes into 'ad tracking sites'.
Call me paranoid, but if it ain't plain HTML and static images, I don't wanna see it.
Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo - H. G. Wells
What makes you think the CA AG's office isn't investigating?
cuz right now thar too busy 'vestigatin the guvnuh and his IT boyz over that Oracle boondoggle
Investigate your state laws here: http://law.spamcon.org/us-laws/index.shtml
Some of the states allow quite significant damages, for example, California law allows "damages of $50 per message, up to $25,000 per day, or its actual damages, whichever is greater."
If you are in a state with anti-spam laws you could really lay a hurtin' on them, and might even collect some dough in the process. (Although, given that we know they are unscrupulous, collecting will not be easy.)
Here are some other resources:
http://smallclaim.info/
http://www.spamcon.org/
http://www.aboutspam.com/
http://http://www.cauce.org/about/resources.shtml
"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
Plus those pesky tabbed windows take too much getting used to. They look great and all, but like most people I accidentally close the "main" window, thinking I'm closing an opened pane. GRRR!
It's nice for the pop-ups, but PLEASE get java working so I won't have to rely on IE and Netscape for the java stuff on the net
Oh yeah, I am using lynx. :)
So what, exactly, gives you the right to deny them of funds like that? Now if you simply close the ad and don't click on it, thats one thing, but to never view it....
Good to see Jamie Kellner's got an account now.
Correction: the Microsoft VM is not a Java Virtual Machine. It is a Virtual Machine that supports Java. Lest we forget, Sun had to fight long and hard to have a court uphold this. Check out the Microsoft security bulletin about this flaw and note that it is the "Microsoft® virtual machine (Microsoft VM)". Let's not tar JVM's with the same brush.
If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
What about Alchemy's response:
When contacted by Salon on April 26 about reports of malicious code at the IntelliTech sites, Alchemy's vice president Jamie Daquino said his position was Shut down first, ask questions later.
"For someone to get written up as a virus, that's pretty serious. If they're doing what people are saying, it's illegal. We don't want to be associated with that," said Daquino.
I hate to quote so much but this is scary. This is Alchemy's response based on some info from Salon? Without even checking with IntelliTech first they simply "pull the plug"? After reading the articles I formed my own opinion that IntelliTech is complete trash but what gives Alchemy the right to simply pull the plug? I assume they have an official step by step to deal with issues of this nature but they appear to not use them. Alchemy basically states that they don't know what IntelliTech is doing, did not bother to ask, but pulled the plug anyway.
Bad boys rape our young girls but Violet gives willingly.
Its despicable enough to install files onto a user's machine without their consent but to turn off the protection they're relying on is disgusting.
Burn the bastards.
Too bad, it sounds like someone we need in America. There are far too many brown skin people here.
The Microsoft virtual machine (Microsoft VM) contains functionality that allows ActiveX controls to be created and manipulated by Java applications or applets. This functionality is intended to only be available to stand-alone Java applications or digitally signed applets. However, this vulnerability allows ActiveX controls to be created and used from a web page, or from within a HTML based e-mail message, without requiring a signed applet.
But with all the fuss here and on a couple of other sites I am finding it hard not to scratch the itch to go over to flowgo and see what all the fuss is about. Somebody hold me back!....HTTP://www.flogo.c....
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K
From reading the article, I got the impression this malware appears to take advantage of old exploits in Internet Explorer. IE with all the patches may not be not be affected by this.
Now excuse me...I feel like I need to take a shower.
Posted AC cause I don't want anyone to think that I would defend M$.
However, this did prompt me to do a few things at work, home, parents, in-laws, etc:
1. Check for the spyware
2. Remove all shortcuts to Internet Exploder
3. Install Opera 6.01
4. Install Mozilla RC1
5. Explain to less technologically inclined family that if a page doesn't render correctly in one, try the other, if it still doesn't render correctly, then email the webmaster of the site.
6. Despise Microsoft even more... even though I don't care who knows I visit Slashdot and Drudgereport.com... (though the principle of spyware pisses me off)
This comes from a joke, where you talk about
what you do with your finger (poke), and when
you sit in a nice hot bath you soak. In England a fellow is called a bloke. Now what is the white of an egg?
Flowgo/Funstun/Send4Fun use a very similar technique to get users to opt in to their spam lists. When you recieve a typical e-card (and not all of them but enough) there is a link in the first paragraph of the letter for ordinary pick up and a second link for AOL. You get a card from a friend and don't examine the links too closely. Besides the pattern is all the same.
Flowgo/Funstun/Send4Fun make their first link say something like "to see this card and recieve our great newsletter click here." The second link says "to see this card and recieve nothing," click here. Users who read carefully get no newsletter, but how many do?
Of course those who click the first link technically had a choice and are opting in. Opting in to receive a newsletter is not spam.
It's slimey and deceitful but since users technically opt in, I believe it's legal. I've gotten myself off Funstun/Flowgo's spam list twice. It's very easy to forget that the white of an egg is not a yolk.
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The FDA has strict standards for listing nutrition information on food. A simple, consistant, easy to read, strictly formatted box shows you what's in it and how bad it is for you. IMHO, it works well (even for your average idiot at the grocery store), and is a Good Idea. Would it be so hard to do the same thing for software? Before installing, it presents the user a concise, consistantly formatted box that shows the user what the software does, what files it installs, what services/ports it uses over the internet, what information it collects, stores, uses and shares, and with whom it shares the information. Anybody who creates software that doesn't fit this policy gets heavily fined/jailed/deported/bludgeoned/etc.
... "Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the w
That's all the farther I had to read. Anything beyond that is pointless. Flowgo is spam and nothing more. I block every single piece of flowgo netspace I can find. I also use the flowgoaway.com DNS blacklist. Block flowgo and you'll be a much happier mail admin.
How come no one noticed this:there was one a virus. Then that virus has met with anouther virus, they joined their "genes" and created a new one.
More simple they mutated. And I don't mean "mutated" like we usualy call a virus when someone changed it. I mean they did it on their one!!!!
Or, is you prefer it: they had sex...
Anyhow, these two viruses changed themselves on their own. I know that this was "probable" but so was evolution... Let's face it: we are witnessing a new life form being created here, or at least something like that....
THAT THING IS ALIVE!!!!!!!
Don't use FUCKING MSIE!!!
For crying out loud ... not another @#$%^&* hot fix! This MS Java patch is ancient. In Internet time, it's prehistoric.
./ just to stay informed.
With Red Hat, I can login to RHN or can run "up2date --list" and find out if there are errata.
Why isn't there an easier way for MS [insert product name here] [insert version number here] users to identify what hot-fixes, security patches, and other miscellany software updates they need? I'll be a hemorrhoidal geriatic if I have to read
Many people like to quote that 'all you need to do is run firewall x and anti-virus b' etc. which is fine for the tech savvy, but as we are all painfully aware, the majority is not tech savvy.
You know, it's precisely this attitude which pisses me off the most out of anything in the computer industry currently. For one thing, the above poster is right - the masses are NOT tech savvy. Nor should they have to be.
Hell, I'm tech savvy as far as that goes. But running a whole host of extra software and/or hardware just because we have weak laws/stupid people is NOT an acceptable answer. Think about it - if, instead of laws making it illegal to shoot people, we just said this:
"If you don't want to get shot, well, you shoulda worn a bullet proof vest and helmet when you went out."
I always shake my head when tech-related issues arise; it's as if people suddenly lose all common sense. I can freely walk down the street (for the most part) in the US without fear of being shot, sure it's a remote possibility, but everyone does and very few people get killed proportionally. Why oh WHY can't we use our computers freely also?
Endless arguments over trivial contradictions in books written by ignorant savages to explain thunder in the dark.
Patrick Stewert was not a skinhead
That's actually quite a hard one to argue, given any picture or news footage of him. Or will you put a toupe on his head for the funeral?
Henry Clay was not a fascist
There are those who believe all men should be judged equally in the eyes of the law ("justice"). These people wrote the constitution of the French Republic, the USA, etc. Then there are those who believe in removing laws which prohibit discrimination, so not all men are equal in the eyes of the law. This is one of the primary characteristics of a fascist.
You are small and fat, and we will write nothing of your death, your simple existance for which noone bothered to recognize.
The death of myself will never reach the media.
Look! You breath now, and no one cares. What difference, then, comes from your death? Perhaps just another parking space at the local supermarket.
Hm, you sound a lot like a great literary figure, how appropriate that you supported Telly Savalas.
Your post, though a troll, is a joke, as is your life.
My troll was successful. You even admit to being trolled, but you're so full of clever ideas-fuelled inspiration that you just had to reply, didn't you? Hehe.
Long live Samual Jackson, he will be missed.
His booty, like his body, will be bustin', and he will only be missed by everyone such as yourself.
Brown people, black people, they're all ok, baby.
It's the Islamic mother fuckers that fuck us.
Black made/inspired music is the best, really. Jazz, rock-n-roll, hip hop, blues.
And frankly, nothin' better than slappin' da black booty!
EUniverse's network is the #6 most traffic'd network on the internet, right behind MSN. They operate flowgo and a bunch of other entertainment sites and create all the flash games and things like killing Osama, etc. They make their money from 1) Collecting and selling e-mails, 2) selling replacement ink catridges, and 3) ads. They are and have been profitable for a long time and have their main office in downtown LA.
Not quite. It disables itself if there is a firewall program running. I assume so that it doesn't get detected. If there is no gatekeeper, then it goes ahead and downloads other programs and installs them. If that isn't malicious intent I don't know what is. It makes sure you aren't watching before it trys something.
Don't moderate flamebait as Troll. Know the difference or you will be Meta-moderated.
I use Mozilla and have it configured through the Advanced preferences not to pop things up. How do I block OnClose or other specific elements of JavaScript?
When I try to access the Salon article, Opera (NT4, which I have to run here at work) Dr. Watsons. Every time.
How long before one of these Malware authors sues McAffee for reverse engineering their virus/adware/trojan/spyware program.
I would love to see them get trounced by McAffee and see the DMCA get destroyed in the process.
then I'd like to see the author get punished under virus laws.
Internet Explorer running on Microsoft Windows
Systems not affected:
Internet Explorer running on Macintosh
Internet Explorer running on Solaris
Netscape running on Windows
Netscape running on Macintosh
Netscape running on Linux
Netscape running on Solaris
Netscape running on BSD
Mozilla running on Windows
Mozilla running on Macintosh
Mozilla running on Linux
Mozilla running on Solaris
Mozilla running on HP/UX
Mozilla running on BeOS
Mozilla running on AIX
Mozilla running on VMS
Opera running on Windows
Opera running on Macintosh
Opera running on Linux
etc.
(they forgot to mention this in the article. Not that any patterns are starting to appear...)
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
They all try the same thing. They simply start an installer and demand that you click next and that you agree to the EULA (which I don't think is shown, but they assume you've already read it). And Movie Networks tries to disconncet/dial into some CA-based server to download the rest of it. It doesn't even ask, it just says, "Disconnecting to call remote server" or something like that. Good thing I have DSL, or it would have made the call. Companies like that should be sued. It would be like watching a commercial, only to have a product arrive at your house, along with a bill demanding money.
Job? I don't have time to get a job! Who will sit around and bitch about being broke and unemployed then?
Keeping Up Appearances!
This crap with invasive software, opt-in by deception, and just plain garbage is going to go on forever until and unless users get more savvy or those in the know take the time to train them.
I tried some of this last summer with awful
results. I was in a group that is now defunct called the Secret Garden. I think it is now called http://rainbowofhope.tripod.com
I was head of the Support committee which meant we not only made web pages with graphic gifts but we also sent tons of cards.
I got up a good discussion on ecards and I showed my committee a spam trap and explained why it was bad. It was a card an actual member had sent.
The fireworks exploded. The woman who sent the card knew I meant what I said when I said it wasn't her fault.
Another member who had the ear of our Fearless Leader, Jules, did not. She feared she would be at the wrong end of the tirade I was directing at the spam pit, Flowgo.
I explained over and over to Jules the need to make spam traps a public issue and that providing good support means no spam. Jules worried about hurt feelings. I worried about screw ups.
I got through though when I said that the last thing any of us needed was to send a Flowgo/Funstun card to a sick or bereaved member and stick someone who has more than enough stress with the stress of spam.
We began to test card providers by sending cards amongst ourselves. Again, this does not take much skill. I think we would have gone much further if Jules hadn't pulled her cop de tat.
I think people can learn. Sometimes I wish they wouldn't. I'm currently head of RAOK's guestbook committee and lately there has been a huge drop off in the number of guestbook signings. The reason is that Bravenet is no longer as stable as it was precrash. I didn't pick RAOK's guestbook provider. It also throws two to three popups a signing. Signing a Bravenet guestbook just isn't much fun any more.
By the way, I feel about Bravenet the way a lot of you feel about Flowgo/Funstun/Send4Fun. At least the guestbook signers are avoiding garbage.
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I love it -- the article quotes Jamie from Alchemy (which is owned by pr0n company Babenet) as saying their policy is shut down first, ask questions later, but witness an article at Wired which discusses the gohip virus Alchemy was installing on peoples computers two years ago!
Homer: "Can I have some money now?"
deus does not exist but if he does
My dad made the mistake of installing an "xp improvment" program that he was linked to off of a popup...i don't have any information off of what site it came from, but i do know that it preforms a function similar to norton's Clean Sweep, only doesn't do a very good job. I ended up losing half of the shortcuts on the computer. Had to re-install my virus prevention, and Photoshop's UserInterface font is now missing.
In his account, everytime there is a 404 not found, it routes you to Lop.com, which installed a "toolbar" that takes you to lop.com.
moral of the story is don't let other people use your computer. Also, if anyone knows how to restore the quicklaunch show desktop shortcut, i'd be much obliged.
ps. don't go to lop.com
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http://cexx.org/osama.htm
The wnad.exe program initiates connection to www.rankyou.com:80 and other sites, apparently for the purpose of transferring personal information and downloading targeted advertising for later display. According to reports, wnad.exe hijacks the Web browser to display pop-up ads every hour or so. While it is claimed that the purpose of the software is to raise money for the American Red Cross, the suspicious activities associated with
the software tend to cast distrust on these claims.
Caveat Emptor is not a business model.
However, advertisers won't pay (or at least not nearly as much) to advertise in something free. They take the number of paid subscribers--even if it's only a small amount--as a measure of how many people actually read it.
hawk
If you live in the UK (or EU) then this is already illegal under section 1 of the Computer misuse act. Since this act is a result of EU Treaty obligations similar legislation exist accross the EU.
This same legislation could theoretically be used against junk emailers.
'The Computer Misuse Act 1990'
Section 1;
1.--(1) A person is guilty of an offence if--
(a) he causes a computer to perform any function with intent to secure access to any program or data held in any computer;
(b) the access he intends to secure is unauthorised; and
(c) he knows at the time when he causes the computer to perform the function that that is the case.
(2) The intent a person has to have to commit an offence under this section need not be directed at--
(a) any particular program or data;
(b) a program or data of any particular kind; or
(c) a program or data held in any particular computer.
(3) A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale or to both.
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1990/Ukpga_1990
Hollings's proposed bill would require customers to be able to opt out of the "nonsensitive" information gathering as well. Salon, for some reason, has chosen to ignore this.