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squarefish writes "CNN has this story about a hiker stranded in South America's Andes mountains when a blizzard begins. He reaches into his backpack for his cell phone -- only to find his prepaid minutes are up. Out of nowhere, a phone company solicitor is calling on his cell phone, asking if he would like to buy more time. Is this convenient or what?"
Yob
If it's diffent, punch It it's lager, lunch If it moves, root If it quacks, shoot If it's mates, protect If it's wife, neglect If it's wages, bet If it vicious, pet If it's American, ape If it's a blonde, gape If it's boobs, inflate If it's V8, venerate If it's sport, booze If it's licence, lose If it's engine, thrash If it's buttcrack, flash If it's boys, larin' If it's women, no swearin' If it's the footy trip, anaesthesia If it's back home, amnesia If it's party, newted If it's bedroom, putrid If it's foreplay, forgotten If it's rockin', don't bother knockin' If it's a party, fight If it's winning, skite If it's politics, right If it's flatulence, light If it's tabloid, believe it If it's broadsheet, don't read it If it's music, rock If it's casino, flock
a sales call came in handy.
WWJD.... for a Klondike bar?
Okay that's kind of funny but it's about as on-topic as half the other stories this week. What's with all the completely un-geek-related stories that really fit better in someone's tagline or weblog?
The guy who slagged the football team - Those yobs were not for him - Turns into a real estate agent Who believes in discipline; That guy who's the first to use cocaine, The wild boy breaking free, Ends up in a court of law As a prosecuting Q.C.; Remember the school captain? - Success was a matter of time: I can hear her now as she screams, "Greg! You missed the stop sign!" Forget Snoop Doggy Dog, Forget ol' Ice T - The true word out on the streets Is produced by the T.A.C. What good's the use of striving? As Life's road in front unravels We get to do the driving, But don't choose the direction we travel. Do your homework, or wag for weeks And graffiti the Dandenong line: It don't matter when you hear that scream - "Greg! You missed the stop sign!" Some time in the next hundred thousand years A comet's gonna wipe out all trace of Man - I'm banking on it coming before My end of year exam. The rich kid, he becomes a junkie, The poor kid, an advertiser : What a tragic waste of potential - Being a junkie's not so good, either. Your folks struggled hard for what you've got, You are the fruit of their vine; But who cares what you sow when what you reap Is: "Greg! You missed the stop sign!" Hardwired into everyone's head Greg! The stop sign!
Is the person they're gonna be - Growing up is not a matter of choice, It's a matter of wait and see. And so kids, yeah! you can do it! Remember to be your best! Rage without fucking alcohol! You can pass the test! Girls can do anything! I'm O.K! You're O.K! We're fine! I thought I saw a semi-trailer! Greg! You missed the stop sign!
as far as i know, you are still able to make emergency (911) calls from a cell phone even if it has no service agreement. however, seeing as it wasn't the united states, more power to the sales guy or something. :))
next we'll be hearing a story about how spam saved someone's life. (i don't care whether its the canned or electronic kind, would be interesting either way
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--Mad propz to the homies cruisin the CVS parking lot.
...Even a cellphone which has run out of paid minutes should still be able to make a call to emergency services? It is very poor if it can not.
Thou Shalt Not Britney Spear
If I were Britney's boyfriend I'd be playing hard to get She'd come around beggin' for me, but I'd say, "No no, not yet. Cos God has told me personally That I should remain pure. Just love me, baby, for myself." And more of that manure. Thou Shalt Not Britney Spear Britney would go off her tree At my refusal "I'm Britney freakin' Spears, Rejection's not that usual." "I love you, darling, for yourself," I'd explain to little Miss "It's your personality I like. Not your body. Serious." As far as a coy mistress goes You'll like it more than she When, upon her curt refusal You whole-heartedly agree Girls justly hate the lecher man With sweating, hairy paw But what happens when Boy says no? They hate that even more "Just like I told J-Lo," I'd say, "It's not your fame and wealth, It's not your perfect bod and face It's you I want. Yourself. Jesus wouldn't like us to If he ever knew it" "Stuff him," I'm sure she'd say "Come on, babe, let's do it."
Besides, chilling your battery will not revive it. It will only slow down power loss.
What a stupid article!
spam let me know my mail server is working.
...any money to be made on making products open source yet?
Just want to know.
Convenient, maybe. But what if he hadn't been stranded. How annoying would it be having a solicitor call you and try to cell you more pre-paid minutes every time you run out. I thought it was against some kind of law that phone solicitors could not call your cellular phone anyway? (Correct me if I am wrong)
~.Evanrude
Fat Boy Slim Dusty
Ecstacy's had a bad rap - The drug's O.K. but the music's crap Techno's made with computer cable Sample machine and an old turntable Get a loop, then cut and paste her Buy a trip and lick the paper There's new school, old school, prep school too There's D.J's that nobody knew But now they're known - for doing what? Ideas? Music? Melody? Nup. They don't sing, cos they're not able. They put a record on a turntable. Techno's crap. And so's Hip-hop Jupiter's orbit is about as long As your standard rave techno song Bleep bleep blurt, repeat at will Do scratching crap, and go until Two hours later - that bleep's still there But change the reverb on the snare. Hip-hop? Buddy, don't get me started. So how do you get your song charted? Kids love this stuff cos it's so new: Put a sample in from a pop song too, You've got a hit. How come it sold? The melody, and it's thirty years old. Techno's crap. And so is rock.
Hell, I probably would have died in his situation, I would have refused to answer the "OUT OF AREA" call.
RonB
It is human nature to take shortcuts in thinking.
I tried putting my old batteries in the freezer, but it didn't make them work again.
I might have been at risk by ingnoring all of those formerly annoying calls. In the interest of my own health, in the future I'm going to take every one of them. Yeah Right....
Five Yards
You're only one fad away from being retro You're only one drug away from liking techno You're only one glasses of pair from dyslexia You're only one Cleo mag from anorexia You're only five yards from a fuckwit You're only five yards from a fuckwit You're only five yards from a fuckwit You're only five yards from a fuckwit You're only one download from this song's copyright You're only one Tim Tam away from cellulite You're only one phone call from captaining the Aussie side You're only one lifestyle show from suicide You're only one station from John Laws' shit You're only one labotomy from believing it. You're only one tabloid press from a lynch mob You're only one acting role from a real job You're only one strip of flesh from your bones You're only one species away from Alan Jones. You're only one small speck in space You're only one life, soon erased Be there none left on Eath but you One thing will still remain true: You're only five yards from a fuckwit You're only five yards from a fuckwit You're only five yards from a fuckwit You're only five yards from a fuckwit
Law of averages. They call so often, it's really no surprise that they'd call at a point where you'd need someone to call. Has to happen sooner or later.
"...Ok Mr. Diaz you don't need to make up some stupid story about being lost in the Andes mountains. If you are not interested, you could just say so." *click*
Did you just grab this out of someone else's post or are you more durnk than me?
You can't slander Brtiney and then act stupider than her.
Oh, hearzz the fucking NAIL, "It's you I want. Yourself. Jesus wouldn't like us to If he ever knew it"
Then
Fantasy, mutherfucker.
As my father lik@(munch munch)...
I'm not an expert chemist, but according to the article, the mountaineer recharged his cell phone batteries be flinging them in to the snow.
How do frigid temperatures recharge Ni-Cad or Ni-MH batteries, which most cell phones use?
Well, it all makes sense to me!
As my father lik@(munch munch)...
CNN is a stupid network for brainless losers
has this story about a hiker stranded in South America's Andes mountains when a blizzard begins
Good! I hope he dies! Hikers are all assholes anyway.
He reaches into his backpack for his cell phone -- only to find his prepaid minutes are up
Ahahahaha! It's curtains for you now, you lug-soled shithead!
Out of nowhere, a phone company solicitor is calling on his cell phone, asking if he would like to buy more time. Is this convenient or what?"
WHAT? NO! I hate salespeople, I hate hikers, I hate commercials, and I hate you, you is-this-convenient asswipe! I hope you all die in an avalanche.
At least in the US, cellphone carriers are required by law to allow all 911 calls through on any cellphone, whether it's activated or not. The law is pretty strictly enforced, too. It's reasonable to assume that wherever he was, a similar service or law exists.
I can imagine that 1) there was some sort of equivalent service in his area, and 2) his service should have a number to call, like '0' or '611' to talk to someone about adding minutes to his calling plan. The guy was smart enough (and lucid enough) to know that chilling batteries rejuvenates them to some extent, but couldn't figure out how to get a hold of anyone on a service that doesn't require "charged" minutes? He's getting more credit than he deserves.
Regardless, if such emergency services aren't available where he was, let it be a lesson to the carriers there. Someone could easily hold them liable for not permitting emergency calls to go through, where life-threatening situations exist.
These instructions apply specifically to a Ford 4.6 liter V8. Other makes/models may vary.
1) Go to work. Do some actual work, then during lunch, go to Swift, Myrtle Auto Parts or Pep Boys and buy 5 quarts of oil and a filter.
2) After lunch, complain to boss about a serious malfunction in car. Explain to boss that if it's not fixed now, car may be in shop for a week and you won't be able to show up during that time.
3) After boss falls for bullshit story, grab 4x4x6 block of wood and place at the edge of closed forks on forktruck so as not to damage the pretty frame of your car then lift just higher than the jackstands you always place next to the shop desk.
4) Place jackstands under frame just behind front fenders and lower car slowly being carefull nothing moves or gets crushed. When forks are clear, push nose of car sideways to make sure it's stable.
5) Place big empty pan under oil plug and filter. Remove oil plug with channel locks (this is a custom oil plug with a round head to keep petrolium soaked primates from using impact wrenches on it in rare occasions when you have them change the oil). Remove filter with filter wrench you conveniently placed in the cabinet marked "car stuff".
6) While waiting for oil to drain, call Vixen and see who's working tonight.
7) Replace drain plug, install new filter with light coat of oil on seal (making sure old seal isn't still stuck to filter housing or block), then fill with 5 quarts of fresh oil. Unplug primary sides of coil packs and crank until oil pressure comes up, then lower car with forktruck, place jackstands next to shop desk, plug the coils back in, and start car. Check for leaks.
8) Dump used oil into waste oil barrel and clean pan. Call waste oil guy if more than 3/4 full. Put tools away, wipe up the 3 drops of oil you spilled, wash up, and lock up the shop if boss has left already. If boss is still there, pretend to work until she does, then lock up and go home.
Money spent:
Oil and filter: $15.00 Money made:
1/2 day you were getting paid to work on your own car: $44.10
Total: +$29.10
Oil change instructions for women:
1) Pull up to local petrolium soaked primate when car produces a large white, black and/or blue cloud of foul smelling smoke behind it. Insist car was running fine the day/week/month before you hit this big pothole. Try not to stare at the dirt under his eyelids and sloping forehead.
2) Try not to scream in horror as the PSP tells you it's approximately $5,000 to replace the engine you never changed the oil in.
3) Apply for a job at Vixen to pay the PSP. If Tony or Freddy like you, go home and get dressed, you start tonight. If not, try Pumps and repeat. Don't forget the G string to show off those nice ass cheeks.
4) Go to Vixen, and get topless as soon as you get on stage. Don't screw around or you won't get tipped. Try not to look at yourself too much in the mirrors, and ALWAYS take the dollar with the cleavage, not the hands.
5) Talk to cute guy everyone calls "Cheezy", "Dee" or "Sex Machine". Explain your problem, take him home.
6) Get naked and have the best sex you ever had times 3. Don't squeeze his balls, he hates that. Swallow it. Wiggle your ass in his face. Scream his name when you cum multiple times.
7) When you wake the next afternoon, cook him breakfast, and make lots of coffee. Have more sex with him. Call the mechanic to get your car back as is. Bend over the couch. CheezyDee likes to see your ass jiggle as he takes you from behind.
8) When the car comes, so will you. To avoid distracting Cheezy while he works, go to the store and buy more rubbers. Get some beer and coffee too.
9) By the time you return, Cheezy should be around half done, depending on how much other stuff was neglected. Order pizza or Chinese for dinner. Cheezy likes pork fried rice and a couple eggrolls.
10) After he eats his food and then you, he's back to work. Clean the house. Yes, thats his spooge on the ceiling tile. Take a shower, douche, touch yourself while thinking about last night.
11) When he's done, thank Cheezy by letting him in the bad place. Wiggle. Move him in. Introduce him to your friends.
Money spent:
Oil change: $15.00
Petrolium soaked primate "Consulting fee": $200.00
Wrecking yard motor and tranny: $1,000.00
Brakes: $120.00
Total: $1,335.00
The best sex of your life with CheezyDee: Priceless
--Mad propz to the homies cruisin the CVS parking lot.
DUDE!
... you don't have to KEEP ROCKIN!
I fucking told you that you ROCK
CUT IT fucking OUT!
Mr Cranky.
As my father lik@(munch munch)...
check the URL, it's a song by an ozzie avant-garde band - all good! kinda like Regurgitator. Only not... :) ) hehehe
(p.s. ozzie == Australian, not Osbourne just in case your thick
you ROCK!!!!!
As my father lik@(munch munch)...
Bitchez ain't shit but hoes and tricks.
--Mad propz to the homies cruisin the CVS parking lot.
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Do not do this. Alcohol dilates the capillaries, thus actually lowering the body temperature. You feel warmer because of the desensitizing effect, but booze will just make you freeze faster. Details can be found e. g. here.
Regurgitator>>I sucked a lot of cock to get where i am
I sucked a lot of cock to get where i am
i only want to be the best that i can
my mouth is stained i can't complain
i keep on rinsing it again and again
whoa-oh whoa whoa yeah-eah-eah-eah
whoa whoa yeah-eah-eah-eah
whoa-oh whoa whoa yeah-eah-eah-eah
whoa yeah-eah-eah
take a look at me
tell me what do you see?
i've got all i want
i'm on top of the heap
now they suck up to me
i sucked more cock
you can get what you need
just get down on your knees
you've sucked a lot of cock to get where you are
your smile is stretching but you're gonna go far
your life is pain you can't complain
you keep on rinsing it again and again
i know i know-whoa-oh-oh-oh
i sucked a lot of cock to get where i am
i know i know-whoa-oh-oh-oh
i only wanna be the best that i can
i know i know-whoa-oh-oh-oh
i sucked a lot of cock to get where i am
i know i know-whoa-oh-oh-oh
i only wanna be the best that i can
i know i know-whoa-oh-oh-oh (x6)
... is whether or not they made him buy the minutes before they would help him.
all i want you to say is nothing at all
and all i want you to do is stare at the wall
i love your plastic hair and plastic eyes
marvel at your plastic breasts and plastic thighs
my polyestergirl
so shiny
polyestergirl
so shiny
polyestergirl
so shiny
polyestergirl
so shiny
you're the perfect guy's accessory
dangling from my arm for of the pretty people to see
boy's with sassy pouts and perky glee
great for backstage and entertainment award ceremonies
my polyesergirl
so shiny
polyestergirl
so shiny
polyestergirl
so shiny
polyestergirl
so shiny
took you for a ride up in an aeroplane
but your body burst and left an ugly stain
had to take your pieces back to the factory
it took them several weeks to get you back to me
my polyestergirl
so shiny
polyestergirl
so shiny
polyestergirl
so shiny
polyestergirl
so shiny
polyestergirl
she's my polyestergirl
shiniest in all the world
she's my polyestergirl
shiniest in all the world
she's my polyestergirl
shiniest in all the world
they dont.
I worked in a battery shop for a few months. Cooling batteries makes them discharge slower, and freezing them destroys them (expanding/crystalizing electrolite destroys the membrane between the plates). Last month I left my cell in the car overnight, it got a bit cold (in the 40s), and my phone wouldn't work until the battery warmed back up.
...also, as Jeff67 points out:
"Alcohol only gives the perception of warmth. It does it by dilating blood vessels in the skin. The result is you lose heat faster. Drinking when you're really cold is a good way to get dead."
So, fake longer battery life, and fake warmth. In short, this looks like a bogus story. I guess CNN is taking it's cues from the Chinese news media these days...
Never never never smoke crack before geometry class!
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-pwpbot
Can you hear me NOW? No? Hum, get a crew out here...we need another tower.
Ah, can you hear me NOW? Good!
--MonMotha
"Then suddenly, at above 12,500 feet, Leonardo Diaz hears a familiar ring."
was his girlfriend by any chance named Cameron Dicaprio?
anyway can someone shed some light on how cellphone batteries get recharged by cold temperatures?
Oh God, did you eat all this acid?
That's right!
Musik!
Wumpscut, Slave to Evil
There was a time I thought,
the mind would force the body
There was a time I thought,
the mind would force the soul.
But then, I went Evil,
but then, I went mad
But then, I went Evil,
but then, I went mad
But then, I went Evil,
but then, I went mad
But then, I went Evil,
but then, I went mad
Evil is ruling over my existance.
Evil is ruling over my existance.
There was a time I thought,
the mind would force the body
There was a time I thought,
the mind would force the soul.
But then, I went Evil,
but then, I went mad.
But then, I went Evil,
but then, I went mad.
but then, I went mad.
but then, I went mad.
but then, I went mad.
but then, I went mad.
Evil is ruling over my existance.
Evil is ruling over my existance.
Evil is ruling over my existance.
Evil is ruling over my existance.
Evil is ruling over my existance.
Over my existance.
Over my existance.
There was a time I thought,
the mind would force the body.
There was a time I thought,
the mind would force the soul.
There was a time I thought,
the mind would force the body.
There was a time I thought,
the mind would force the soul.
There was a time I thought.
There was a time I thought...
--Mad propz to the homies cruisin the CVS parking lot.
Are you Australian?
...people have to get stranded in the Andes before the world realizes that telemarketers are a viable part of the harmony of the world?
If you prick a spammer, does he not bleed?
"There are more important things than stopping terrorism. Upholding the Constitution is one of them." - Ars Forumer.
This is probably the one and only time someone was completely glad they got a telemarketing call in all of history.
I should have picked out the nickname Demosthenes!Tecumseh.
w00t!
Channel Turd
The people who make it
How do they live?
The producer's a jackal
The director's a spiv
At P.R. they're liars
The sound guy is a slime
The hostess is a bimbo
With a petulant whine
Real TV makes us all arseholes
The people who're on it
What could they have heard?
One day you are unknown
The next you're a turd
You can't return fame
Get your money back
Imagine going on TV
To find what you lack.
The people who watch it
Are arseholes and creeps
Watching other arseholes
The cycle's complete
You think reality's crap?
I disagree
Crap isn't crap
Until it's on TV
Do not click on that link, that is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen.
True, but if I'm going to freeze to death, I'd much rather do it drunk.
'm like mr. clifford richard i'm wired for sound
and when i get myself a mic you won't want to be around
i'm off like a note in karen's 'day tripper'
i'm faking all my lines like that dolphin called flipper
i send chills down your spine like the strings in billie jean
i'm so far underground that i'm a one person scene
i'm overly thorough just like david attenborough
when he's whispering in the jungle like they're working undercover
evidence irrefutable i'm squarer than a cublicle
i hug the straight and narrow like a julie arrows musical
i derail and fail with abstract verse i fail to curtail
the rhythmical measures and pleasurable endeavours never sail
i'm lacking in ambition simply no predisposition
and when i hit the stage i lose all composition
i never like it loud cos crowded places scare me
i dig the rock and roll as much as peter paul and mary
arsehole
i will lick your arsehole
i will lick your arsehole
i will lick your...
i'm the host with the most uber guy smiley
i've got the special effects like the bbc man
i've got flow like mal steem's got chops
it seems that i'm so bad they get l.l. to call the cops
beats so hard they'll be bustin up your spleen
i got more rhymes than dern's hair got sheen
i put flash in the dance just like irene cara
and i've got more toys than teruhisa kitahara
like a digital refinery i hope you 'lise the binary
so zeros after ones getting lined up into finery
i put them into rows to get the music go
and they goes and they flows like the mucus out your nose
i'm the asisiatic australasiatic
instamatic rhythm box static addict
i got the juice and all else got the pith
and i'm tough under pressure just like sarah jean smith
arsehole
i will lick your arsehole
i will lick your arsehole
i will lick your arsehole
i will lick your arsehole
i will lick your arsehole
i will lick your arsehole
i will lick your...
They have cellphone coverage at the top of a mountain? I find that someone difficult to believe. Also why would anyone take their phone climbing with them and not have any credit on it? Ok, so I'm sure they didn't just make it up, but it does seem stranmge
Sig is taking a break!
It's more convenient than you think. How did the hiker get stranded in the first place? My theory is that the phone company had a hand in getting him lost in the first place. Who benefits? Suddenly here is a heartwarming story that makes the phone solicitors look like benign life-saving angels rather than annoying pricks paid to disrupt our most precious moments of peace....
I am using GSM standard phone here. If you turn it on and call emergency number (better not give it,people know it already), even if you don't have a SIM card installed, it will rise the power like 5x (antenna) and call it.
I have read that same there in USA (911) too... So, who the heck he tried to call I wonder? Its well documented on ALL mobile phones as a part of standard.
...throw the "Can you hear me now?" guy into the snow for 30 minutes.
and God answered, how most unusual.
A mouthful of tequila just shot out my nose, and all over my keyboard.
YOU can make emergency callls (911) every hear on the planet. My cell phone at this moment is the only thing it does. But probably on the top of the Andes he wouldn't have connection to nowhere. Except on a sattellite phone. And those are not prepaid, as far as I know.
------I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either.------
Oh wait nevermind. random chance saved this guy right?
Who is calling who the sheep.....
Free Unix? Free Windows. http://www.reactos.com
everyday i shit into the sea
it's strange but it doesn't mean much to me
i'm living in a porcelain dream
and things ain't quite what they seem
i try to keep things so nice
each surface glowing snow white
it's good to be alive in here
it's gonna be alright (x3)
everyday i talk to my machines
more sense than talking to human beings
it's pretty in the land of the free
where things ain't quite what they seem
my whole world's cheap and phony
dear hearts get lost and lonely
i'll get what's coming to me soon
it's gonna be alright (x4)
it's gonna be alright (x4)
it's gonna be alright
it's gonna be all shite
Here
--Mad propz to the homies cruisin the CVS parking lot.
What the HELL are you people doing up? It's like 5 am EDT, 2 am PDT, and there's already 50 some posts....
Oh. Wait. Nevermind.
...dumbass goes hiking in the Andes and doesn't check the "minor" details like "Is my phone working properly?" before departure?!
I don't even get decent reception at home! Which network covers the Andes??
Contrary to popular belief, it is easier to get signals on top of mountains. Why? Because at the top of the mountain you have line-of-sight with many different ground antennas. It is the same reason that you get a good 'view' :)
Also, from my personal experience in the Alpes, phones seem to work pretty well at high altitudes - so much, that I even get signals from neighbouring countries' networks sometimes. The major problem with large height is that your cellphone might appear in many cells simultaneously and the networks might become confused. (And this could be one of the reasons why you can't use a cellphone inside an airplane)
As far as the batteries are concerned.. I am aware that lower temperatures lower the reaction strength => the internal resistance of the battery increases => it becomes unusable very quickly. However it works again when it becomes warm. This does appear bogus...
... what do you expect from a story related with telemarketers and reported by Journalists working in US Media Conglomerate B]
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If an emergency call rises the power at 5x, it could explain why a frozen battery could not make an emergency call. That would be a poor design. It would also explain a story i heard two years ago, about a girl on a wrecked yacht drifting somewhere close to malaysian coast. She could not make an emergency call, but send an short message to her friend in Great Britain. He called emergency services, which contacted the malaysian Coast Guard who rescued the crew.
Possible, but not probable...
I'm close to someone involved in low level local politics... What you'll find is that news such as this is about 40% fiction (They call it creative writing, or some such in journalism schools.)
Most news agences embelish the truth, and often resort to such common argument falacies as taking quotes out of context as well as employing sensationalism and plain old fiction.
In general, stories have seeds of truth; some are just larger seeds than others... Remember that the best lies are those based on reality.
Side quote: "The US media is unique not in the ability to provide an un-tainted viewpoint; Rather, it is unique in it's ability to convince the american population that it is without bias."
Alcohol is a vasodialator, so you do get increased bloodflow, especially in surface capillary veins. So you do suffer from hypothermia at a greater rate, but you also prevent frostbite. Depending on the amount of exposed skin, drinking small amounts alcohol is often considered a good thing. If your boots get wet and then freeze, drinking is the only thing you can do to help keep the circulation going and save your toes. Alcohol and water are both vasodialators, but alcohol works best. Caffeine is a vasoconstrictor, which is a bad thing for frostbite. Brandy contains lots of sugars, so would have an overall warming effect, assuming he had reasonable clothing.
Chilling batteries can cause the output voltage to rise, because the internal resistance is a complex function based on temperature. I've seen the graphs of battery output for satellites, very non-linear, with several peaks and dips for different temperatures.
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Now we can't even DIE in peace, without some ($*%&$ing phone solicitor bothering us.
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It sounds like a urban legend to me.
To give the story some credibility it should have stated where he was found.
This fact could be compared with known base stations, and verified the claim or if it was possible.
On a side note, the ad on the page was for prepaid phone cards!
Carbon based humanoid in training.
I'll admit to not having very much of a clue how cell coverage works outside my region, but if someone told me that a cell phone was reachable on top of a fucking mountain, I'd take some convincing.
If I'm wrong, I'd like to know. Is this something along the lines of Iridium? I don't gather so from the article.
Blearf. Blearf, I say.
Even if the stroy does describe people doing things that are based upon false premises, that doesn't mean that the story must be false.
The guy may not have known that emergencey numbers work without available minutes, or that chilling the battery doesn't help.
People have been arguing in this forum about the benefits of brandy. Sugar vs. Alchohol. My guess is that small enough doses spead over time would provide sugar without much heat loss, but it doesnt matter what I think because the only relevent thing is what the guy in the snow thought.
The guy may have been just been incredibly lucky to survive being as stupid as he was.
None of this makes tha story necessarily true either.
-- That which does not kill us has made its last mistake.
Well the posts seem to all say the same thing, here's a summary:
In most places, Emergency Calls are free.
An obscure mountain path durring a blizzard doesnt seem like the most likely place to get cellphone coverage.
Soliciting on Cellphones is illegal in many places, just like soliciting on Fax Machines.
so is it real?
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Quoth the article:
He was able to keep talking to her until rescue teams arrived seven hours later - - with the frigid temperatures acting as a natural recharger for his cell phone batteries.
"I remembered that when I was a boy I put batteries in the freezer," Diaz said in a newspaper interview describing his late May adventure. "So, I took off (the dead) battery and flung it into the snow. After half an hour, it was working again."
When a battery is dead it's dead, and no amount of sub zero temperatures will change that. Moreover I would expect the moisture from the snow to actually harm the battery and cell phone as he warmed it up so he could use it.
Contrary to popular belief the Andes are not in the USA (and therefore a call to 911 might be somewhat problematic.)
.. who claim that you shouldn't drink alcohol in extreme hypothermic conditions?
Alcohol dilates the blood vessels and the rush amplifies your body heat. True, you lose heat faster and in 'normally' cold conditions you shouldn't drink alcohol. But if you're stuck in a freezing mountain, you need to keep comfortable to keep awake, which is essential to your survival. And the article says the guy is relying on carefully measured doses of brandy. Limiting intake is essential.
Alcoholic beverages are actually present in most hikers' backpacks for this purpose (and also for treating wounds, due to its antiseptic nature).
And what's up with "you shouldn't drink anything at all in hypothermic conditions"? In fact, you should drink adequate amounts of liquids. Water, as most liquids, preserves your temperature. The only time you shouldn't intake liquids is when you're already victimized by hypothermia (in other words, you're already unconscious or near unconsciousness so you can't really do anything anymore, but this is handy advice for people who encounter hypothermia victims -- don't give them food or drink).
Pet peeve: Profane people propagating perfunctory pedantry.
In detroit, I lose coverage every other street corner. What kind of service does he have that he can get service in the Andes?
Just experiment until you get more bars on your signal indicator. And hope like hell there is no cell tower on the summit of K2!
Surprised it wasn't a nimba infected cell phone sending him it's address book.
In Canada we use CDMA [on a tri-band xmitter no less]. You can dial 911 if the phone is user-locked [e.g. enter code] or just locked [hit two keys to unlock]. You have to pay 0.25$ a month for a 911 "connection fee". Without a service plan I'm sure the phone will call 911 but I have never tried.
Another little tidbit. If anyone has ever dialed 911 on a phone its somewhat interesting. My motorolla v120 will sit in "emergency mode" and do a funny beep. You can't dial any other number until you reset the phone [e.g. power down].
Tom
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When lost in the Andes, a cell phone is the next best thing to a soccer team. :)
Yeah, the subject tells it all. You do *NOT* need a SIM card (and therefore you don't need to pay) if you are dialing to emergency numbers, such as 911 in USA, 112 in Finland etc.
Are the Andes Mountains between his home and the local liquor store? or is it common practice to carry Brandy with you while trekking through the Andes? ...and alone (a missing detail if he was with a friend)? Wondering if we'll be seeing a number of Trekkies wandering aimlessly through mountain ranges next winter, planting batteries in the snow. This article does seem to be missing some details.
Doesn't really matter who paid for the story to get run. There are too many incongruities in it for it to be even close to truth. Discussing it only gives them more ad revenue for it.
A guy I know ended up with a phone someone left at his place after a party. It had no service but if you called 911 and hanged up, you would be able to make one more call for free.
After the call, he told the salesman to put his number on the "do not call" list.
I beg your pardon..
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"The Colombian mountaineer slowly begins freezing to death, surviving for 24 hours with his only warmth coming from carefully measured doses of brandy"
a mountaineer in the Andes,
what the hell was he thinking drinking Alcohole
now i live in Australia,
a genraly nice warm place..
ive seen snow twice in my life..
and i know that the last thing you should do
when in a situation that you may frezze to death
is drink any form of alcohole
why do you feal warm when doing so??
because all those blood vessles that closed
up to put all your heat inside where it
will keep you alive sudenly open up..
and you losse all that heat..
bad move..
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Stick the phone antenna in a tube of pringels and scan around. When you have the most bars, you'r pointing at a tower. That's what it seems like anyway, i could be wrong.
/.'er should always be armed with a phone with an external antenna. And some potato chips.
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I wonder what he paid for roaming ;)
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Yeah that was stupid to drink it knowing it cause more heat loss. I'm amazed people still think that. You don't get a cold from being wet and chilled either.
...you know what I think the story is fake, or something is fishy here. Was the newspaper based in China? :-P
Too bad he didn't have one of those new Methanol powered fuel cell phones. I don't know if alcohol would work in place of methanol or not especially full of whatever is in brandy; the impurities.
He could have ignited the brandy with a spark from the battery or caused a short and heated it somehow, but then he'd lose the phone.
Sure glad I wasn't there!
On the other hand, if you eat the snow you can freeze to death trying not to dehydrate. I'm sure a very slow but steady diet of snow is the best way to go.
I'd carry a plastic bottle that I could put snow into, then put the bottle into my clothes. After it melts, then you can drink it. That's much safer.
Do not eat without melting! Eating snow and ice can reduce body temperature and will lead to more dehydration.
Melt ice or snow and boil it if possible. Don't eat crushed ice - it can injure your mouth and can also cause further dehydration.
Lundin says eating lots of snow is a common and potentially deadly mistake.
"Don't eat snow," said Mike Sheets. "Don't put it in your mouth and try to melt it if you're thirsty. You'll use up too much of your body's heat, and you need that energy for yourself."
Drink a lot of water, 8 to 12 glasses a day. But do not eat snow to satisfy your thirst. Eating snow can lower your body's core temperature, triggering deadly hypothermia.
Don't waste body heat by eating snow. Make a fire; heat water before drinking.
Do not eat snow as it tends to dehydrate the body
Do not eat snow to obtain water, it will just make you colder.
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I think that goes for OS's too
Living in Boston, I frequently hear about stranded hikers who call 911 while hiking in the White Mountains in New Hampshire. Cell phones have became so common and these calls happen so frequently that it has actually become a problem. To discourage this behavior (unprepared hikers calling 911 to be rescued), the authorities came to a unique solution: Bill the caller for the cost of the rescue.
Let me be clear; not every hiker who calls 911 will be billed. If you have a genuine emergency, please use 911. But if you're stranded due to your own stupidity, you're going to pay.
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Yes freezing doesn't "revive" the battery.
Cutting power draw to zero does.
When my cell batteries goes "DEAD" (i.e. the phone powers off), if I wait a bit, I can get it to turn on for a bit (but only 2 seconds of "talk" time).
One time it took a few times to make it unrevivably dead. (I let it go dead because it had a memory effect [less and less capacity over time], even though the manual said that could not happen. My fix worked, BTW).
Some batteries may have a stronger "revival" effect than others.
It probably has something to do with chemical reactions and the capacitance of the cell.
Just because it CAN be done, doesn't mean it should!
No Dammit! No More Minutes! I don't have my credit card with me and im starving on mountins in the Andies and *Click*
Since when has this country used intellectual elite as a pejorative term?
When I clicked on the story, there was MacGyver (Richard Dean Anderson) on top of a phone calling card ad. Fitting I think.
I guess that he was just lucky to have a cell tower on top of that mountain, eh?
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One of the two huge forest fires in Arizona (which have now merged into one) was set by an equally clueless hiker who decided to set a signal fire to attract a rescuer. It worked - a TV helicopter rescued her. But it also set a wildfire (the Chediski fire) which is now part of the record-setting Rodeo-Chediski fire which has been in world news lately. It is burning the largest stand of Ponderosa pines in the world, not to mention hundreds of structures.
Sigh.
If people are going to get lost, they oughta at least prepare for the fact! Of course, if they were prepared, they probably wouldn't get lost in the first place.
The only good weather is bad weather.
The guy was lucky he wasn't a crusty, battle-hardened American consumer. Otherwise, here is what would have happened:
Man, I'm freezing... This brandy is good (Hiccup)...
Riiiinng...
Hello?
Hi, maybe I speak to Mister Diaz?
Leave me alone, you f&@*$%ing telemarketer bitch! Click. Hey, wait a sec... Hello? Hello? Oh crap...
That's right, boys and girls, telemarketers are not only a nuisance, they also create deeply ingrained reflexes that can hamper your survival if you happen to be drunk, stranded and out of minutes at the same time...
Did you hug a telemarketer today? Good! Keep hugging him until he chokes.
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Well, too bad he forgot the number for 911. or 112. or 611, and hitting 0 to talk to an operator. Or 0 for that matter!
I wonder why this story has been published on slashdot at all... The value of this story is as great as a story about my hamster dying of a heart attack...
This seems to me like an elaborate way to scare people into filling up their pre-paid minutes.
How many morons are saying saying to themselves:
"what if this was me, and I wasn't so lucky to have that heroic salesperson called"
sheesh
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Hit #4
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
The sales person replys: " oh really? how much would you be willing to pay then?"
Funny...if you hit reload enough times, you'll eventually get an ad for 50% more phone minutes on the right side of the page.
QUIT WHILE YOU'RE AHEAD! ;)
You may be the only (fictional) telemarketer to have inspired more gratitude than raw, stomach-churning hatred, so get out of the business right away! And live the rest of your life on cat food and talk show appearances :)
Yeah, actually - as I understood it, the problem with phones appearing on multiple cell towers and causing network problems was a real event with analog cellphones. When they went to digital networks, this was taken care of.
I heard one story of a guy flying in a private plane who used his analog cellphone to make a call. The call went through just fine, but when his bill came at the end of the month, he was triple-charged for roaming calls made at the same time.
Actually, yes....how many hikers have died stranded in snowstorms? This was bound to happen once.
There's only one real answer to this post...
Out of minutes or no, this hiker must have been sitting down to dinner...
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I didn't see anything in the CNN article that would lead me to suspect that the hiker was not a local citizen of Columbia. BellSouth certainly provides service in Columbia.
Every prepaid cell phone I've ever used has allowed emergency calls, and/or calls to order more minutes, even when expired. Certainly, it would be in the phone company's interest to have an order line for more time, even if it wouldn't take emergency calls. Why didn't the hiker call it earlier? Or did he forget he had his phone?
"This was bound to happen once."
Based on what model of math? If you try to argue from a statistical model then that means the odd of this happening again and again should go up. Just saying "This was bound to happen once" is a statement of faith.
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Considering Sprint doesn't give me PCS coverage at my house or place of employment, I'm going to doubt he has coverage in the Andes.
the cellphone copany in colombia dont let people call emergency numbers for free they charge for that a monthly fee, i live in colombia and the cell phones suck, can you imagine that there is no PCS, and not even talk about sim cards, this country is very late in technology, but is for the politicians, like always
come on! cellular service lost in the andes? drinking alcohol for warmth? recharging batteries by sticking them in snow? utter lack of names, locations, references?
I call bullshit! what the hell is going on with CNN?
I think the original poster was talking about this story where they lifted a story from The Onion reporting that the US congress was demanding a new 5 star capital with better bathrooms and parking...not making a political statement (although both are true)
In other news, there has been an upsurge of telemarketers calling, even unintentionally on landline phones, asking if the user is stranded on a mountain and would like to buy minutes...
This sounds like a fairly tale. I know for a fact that in all areas covered by GSM networks the emergency number 112 works even if you don't even have a SIM card in the phone. I'm sure the same applies to 911 in the United States.
It ("this article") got you to talk about it. Besides, how else were you going to get that story about your hamster on /.? :)