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Star Wars-like Holograms

jeffy124 writes: "Business 2.0 has an article up about Ford's use of holograms during vehicle development. It's almost exactly like that scene in the original Star Wars where R2D2 ran a movie of Princess Leia saying 'Help me Obi Wan.' Basically, Ford uses the system during development to get a look at the car and various parts without needing to construct a full prototype. The image is a 3-D projection and hovers just above the floor, allowing the user to walk around the 'vehicle,' getting a look at it from all angles. I can picture the pr0n jokes now!"

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  1. fp? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    first god damn post you fucking niggers

    1. Re:fp? by Lispy · · Score: 1

      anyone has a link to a picture? I mean isnt the news that it looks like starwars? I would like to see it then...

    2. Re:fp? by anonymous+cowfart · · Score: -1

      Google cache with pictures here

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  2. I agree by anonymous+cowfart · · Score: -1

    This is very gay.

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    1. Re:I agree by anonymous+cowfart · · Score: -1

      Just to get back on topic:

      Imagine a holographic naked and petrified Natalie Portman covered in hot grits.

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  3. vry ghey plz unfix thx by on+by · · Score: -1

    why have they fixed so many bugs lately? huh? the javascript hole have anything to do with it????

  4. hello? by on+by · · Score: -1

    anyone alive?

    1. Re:hello? by Big+Dogs+Cock · · Score: -1

      Hello, I'm Joanna Lumley.

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    2. Re:hello? by on+by · · Score: -1

      The skinny Man-Bitch? Yum yum!

    3. Re:hello? by Big+Dogs+Cock · · Score: -1

      A freind of mine was out on the piss one night and met Gareth Hunt (who was in The Avengers with Joanna Lumley) in a local Indian restaraunt. He was also off his face. Apparently, she used to take cocaine up her arse so as not to ruin her nose.

      This is today's interesting fact.

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    4. Re:hello? by on+by · · Score: -1

      and who says slashdot isn't educational?

  5. Article and a comment or two by kpetruse · · Score: -1, Redundant

    Ok, shameless Karma whoring but hey. One comment though...an article about Dr Who and then one about Star Wars style holograms? How geeky is that? Surprised there's no mention of open source on either...Anyhoo, here's the article:

    Are Holograms Finally for Real?
    By: David H. Freedman
    Issue: July 2002

    This staple of sci-fi is starting to live up to its billing, and its potential in the workplace is anything but an illusion.

    In the months leading up to the debut of the new Ford Thunderbird last fall, the car's four-person design crew was asked to show its most recent tweaks to company executives. So it did what any auto-design team does: It hauled its latest prototype out to the center of a conference room for a group "walkaround." There, managers cooed over the slick coupe's rakish lines from every imaginable angle.

    But "prototype," in this case, might be the biggest understatement in automotive history. What the designers and executives were in fact viewing was a computer-generated hologram -- hovering slightly off the floor -- that not only rendered the T-bird in perfect 3-D but also provided different views as observers moved around it, as if it were really there.

    Such startlingly lifelike projections are so compelling a technology -- as we saw when R2-D2 emitted his "Help me, Obi-Wan" hologram of Princess Leia 25 years ago in the original Star Wars -- that it's difficult to imagine a future in which they're not ubiquitous. It's the present that's the problem. Until now, holograms have been little more than second-rate gimmicks, thanks to the fact that holographically creating anything more than small, washed-out images has proved exceedingly expensive and time-consuming. But that's about to change. Zebra Imaging, a six-year-old startup in Austin that created the Thunderbird holograms (as well as another for the P2000, one of Ford's experimental hydrogen-powered vehicles), is but one of several companies refining new techniques for producing life-size holograms on the fly, using both real and computer-generated images.

    In conventional holography, whose uses to date have been limited to things like novelty art and anticounterfeit decals on CD jewel cases, a laser beam is split in two, with one section shining directly at a large sheet of film and the other bouncing off the object in question before being rejoined with the first. On the film, the overlapping beams etch patterns that contain enough information to render the entire image as seen from different angles. When you look at the developed film, each of your eyes sees a slightly different view of the image, providing the flawless 3-D illusion, and walking or moving your head to the side offers a side view, exactly as it would if the object were real.

    Zebra's new technique is similar but uses a digital image in place of the physical object. Its computers convert a standard graphics file into a pattern displayed on a large, translucent LCD screen. A laser then fires three different-colored beams through the screen. When the beams converge and hit a special film that can be quickly developed with ultraviolet light and heat, the image emerges in startlingly realistic 3-D detail.

    Such breakthroughs portend a wide array of new business applications, at least if Zebra's ever-expanding client roster is any indication. Customers include Boeing (BA), Exxon (XOM), and Ford (F), not to mention the Bob Marley Museum in Kingston, Jamaica, which recently bought a life-size hologram of the legendary reggae king. Mark Holzbach, the company's co-founder and chief technical officer, ticks off a handful of projects already in the works: holograms for product design (à la the Thunderbird), oil and gas exploration (modeling rock layers and fissures a mile below ground), jetliner navigation (making mountains visible through clouds), and even advertising (festooning brochures, billboards, and store windows with eye-popping 3-D imagery).

    Alton Parrish, an analyst at technology consulting firm Business Communications in Norwalk, Conn., predicts that design applications alone will create a $100 million market for the sort of holograms Zebra can now produce, and that the overall market for high-quality holography will eventually approach $1 billion. "If the manufacturing design industry can get access to high-quality, fast holographic imaging," he says, "it's likely to adopt the technology." That's not as big an understatement as calling Zebra's T-bird a prototype, perhaps, but it's an understatement nonetheless.

    1. Re:Article and a comment or two by dimator · · Score: 2

      Hey, thanks a lot for posting a mirror to this! We know how often huge sites like business2.com get slashdotted, especially those with AOL/TW backing.

      Do me a favor, the next time there's a story on, say, cnn.com or msnbc.com, please mirror it; those sites just don't have the bandwidth to last more than a few clicks!

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    2. Re:Article and a comment or two by kpetruse · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Hey, I posted it so that people don't have to get annoyed with pop-ups and other crap from that site. Since it's a flat text article (no pics, no links to speak of) it works pretty well.

      Don't like it? Don't read it. Move your eyes down the page. Move along now, nothing to see here...

    3. Re:Article and a comment or two by GigsVT · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't like it? Don't read it.

      It would be nice if it were that simple, but eventually people like you are going to piss off enough of the wrong people and Slashdot is going to be sued yet again for copyright infringement. It's not like LNUX is really rolling in money, those lawyers are costly to retain.

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    4. Re:Article and a comment or two by goonies · · Score: 1

      Actually, the most intresting thing in the whole article is the picture at the end... it shows how the hologram is generated

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    5. Re:Article and a comment or two by kpetruse · · Score: 1

      Fair point. Lawyers suck. But if this is the case (there is a legal issue in posting whole articles), why isn't a post metamoderated down to hell?

    6. Re:Article and a comment or two by bigbadwlf · · Score: 2

      No popups on my screen.
      If you're using IE, you have no right to bitch about popups.

    7. Re:Article and a comment or two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      why isn't a post metamoderated down to hell?

      You mean moderated, not metamoderated, right?

      It probably will, as will this thread (as Offtopic), which is why I'm being anonymous. Anyhow.

    8. Re:Article and a comment or two by motherhead · · Score: 2

      why isn't a post metamoderated down to hell?

      Because a metamod is when a moderated comment is further moderated for fairness.

      Here is a helpful sugestion for posting on Slashdot.
      A. Read
      B. (important) Think
      C. Re-read (because looking stupid hurts ones D. Decide whether posting is worth it.
      E. Post.

    9. Re:Article and a comment or two by kpetruse · · Score: 1

      Exactly. My post was moderated. I was suggesting that this (moderated) post should be further moderated (metamoderated) if there is a legal issue involved, as one poster claimed.

      This is my point. I thought about it. I read it again. It still made sense.

      And now the original post has been modded down to -1. Damn my precious karma!

    10. Re:Article and a comment or two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i dont think you understand how this works, perhaps you should not use the keyboard thingy part of your computer so much.

    11. Re:Article and a comment or two by kpetruse · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Oh I don't know:

      "Metamoderation is a second layer of moderation. It seeks to address the issue of unfair moderators by letting "metamoderators" (any logged-in Slashdotter) "rate the rating" of ten randomly selected comment posts. The metamoderator decides if the moderator's rating was fair, unfair, or neither." This is from the /. FAQ.

      An example. I post an article. Some people mod it up. This moderation is incorrect, because doing this can be a legally thorny issue. Therefore some metamoderators should mod it back down. Does that make sense? Of course, other moderators could mod it back down again, but that does not change the fact that the original post was modded incorrectly to start with.

      As for using my keyboard "thingy", at least I know how to use capital letters. And punctuation.

    12. Re:Article and a comment or two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Moderators, kpetruse has a smart mouth and I'm tired of it. Please do your civic duty and bring this guy down to a posting threshold of 0 where he belongs.

    13. Re:Article and a comment or two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      You stupid jackass. METAMODERATION IS THE ACT OF REWARDING OR PENALIZING MODERATORS WITH KARMA FOR THEIR ACTS OF MODERATION.

      It is assuredly NOT further moderation of moderated posts.

      Moron. Please go join the taliban or something; you would easily qualify as their master military strategist.

    14. Re:Article and a comment or two by kpetruse · · Score: 1

      Oh for pete's sake. Read what I said.

      I am trying to say that if an article is posted, and that this could cause /. a legal problem (as a previous poster stated), not only should the post be modded down but ANY MODERATORS WHO MODDED IT UP SHOULD ALSO BE PENALIZED. This stops people from posting things that could cause /. a problem. I've been on here for a while and I've constantly seen articles posted as text. If it is wrong, not only the original poster but the moderators who constantly mod things up need to be shown the errors of their ways.

      This is my point. Maybe I didn't make that clear in my original post (I should drink more coffee), but I thought I made it clear last post.

      Sigh.

    15. Re:Article and a comment or two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll bet you love to explain your jokes too. Please do not reply to this message, try to show a little restraint eh?

    16. Re:Article and a comment or two by holozebra · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately the got some of the important details wrong. They make it look like the image is made with one giant exposure. It is actually made from thousands of tiny (1mm square or 2mm square) holographic elements ("hogels").

  6. not forgetting... by DieNadel · · Score: 3, Funny

    that Ford really sucks, it's an awesome technology.

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  7. Are Holograms Finally for Real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The title "Are Holograms Finally for Real?" is a little misleading. Holograms have been around for a long time, it's just holographic image being projected that is a new thing. PBS had a nice show a while back about the emerging tech and how it will effect us.

    1. Re:Are Holograms Finally for Real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic


      You know your a real ass wipe. :)

      I opened that shit at work too...

    2. Re:Are Holograms Finally for Real? by Out4Blood · · Score: 1

      And it got modded to insightful :-) You ought to check the hyperlink before clicking.

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    3. Re:Are Holograms Finally for Real? by crimson30 · · Score: 0

      Who's the gay moderator that thinks this is insightful?

    4. Re:Are Holograms Finally for Real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please mod this down... it looks like he's used a masterful chain of redirects off pbs.org to link to really pixellated gay porn.

    5. Re:Are Holograms Finally for Real? by stungod · · Score: 2

      Oh shit that's funny. I don't get that show on PBS where I live.

      And yes, the moderator was really on the ball marking that one "Insightful"

  8. New technology is cool. by BFD_Jon · · Score: 1

    Aw, you mean that last sentence prevents me from making an actual witty remark about pr0n? ...Well, actually, few remarks about pr0n are funny. Anyway, with holograms that show car designs out in 2002, I wonder how long it'll take until we hit a button and watch a news channel hologram on the dining room table during dinner.

    1. Re:New technology is cool. by Adolf+Hitroll · · Score: -1

      this is only if you are not used to speak with your relatives while having a meal...

      I'd personnally explode such a device as it hinders proper familial communication and tries to control my soul with stupidities such as doctor who, star trek or xfiles.

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    2. Re:New technology is cool. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fuck you

    3. Re:New technology is cool. by Bearpaw · · Score: 2
      I wonder how long it'll take until we hit a button and watch a news channel hologram on the dining room table during dinner.

      I bet we'll get consumer projection holography within a decade. (I'm not sure if we'll ever get news channels again, though.)

    4. Re:New technology is cool. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, because television executives have proved to be so quick at adopting new standards in the past.

    5. Re:New technology is cool. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, Im afraid we will never get real news channels again, at least not in the US by the US... I appreciate my glimpses CNN Europe and BBC news periodically because that is almost objective, as opposed to the skewed, bigotted, biases crap that the corporate empire that the media has become shoves down the throats of the oh so willing American public

  9. errrrrr... by m.batsis · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... can we classify ghosts as 'legasy systems' now?

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    1. Re:errrrrr... by codingOgre · · Score: 2, Funny

      .. can we classify ghosts as 'legasy systems' now?

      I think I need to take a break from GNU, I actually read that as "G hosts"!

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  10. Exactly like that scene in Star Wars? by nathanh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The article says nothing of the sort. The article says that the hologram is still captured on a 2D piece of film. All that's different is that the image is computer-generated rather than from light shining off a physical 3D object. The only mention of Star Wars in the article is as an analogy.

    1. Re:Exactly like that scene in Star Wars? by Em+Emalb · · Score: 2

      I think what the submitter meant was that this was similar to what we experienced in Star Wars. Remember, that was back in the day a bit ('72 wasn't it?), and this is really cool technology, and the last time most of us saw it was in that movie. It's just semantics is all. Anyhow, the part I had to shake my head over was Mr. Analyst boy at the end of the article, talking about how huge the market could be for this.../sarcasm I guess that's why they call the analysts. /Sarcasm How expensive is this? Most companies that don't have a need for this type of modeling will be like "piss off hologram company, in this economy, the software and equipment we already have will do just fine, thanks." My opinion anyway.

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    2. Re:Exactly like that scene in Star Wars? by Flounder · · Score: 4, Funny

      Star Wars came out in '77.

      Turn in your geek ID card at the counter, you'll have it returned to you when you can quote from memory all the dialogue from the Death Star battle.

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    3. Re:Exactly like that scene in Star Wars? by sn_moore · · Score: 1

      >>and the last time most of us saw it was in that movie

      propbably the last time most of us saw this was the 7 years of the holodeck on Star Trek: The Next Generation, and the re-runs....

      sm......

    4. Re:Exactly like that scene in Star Wars? by Em+Emalb · · Score: 2

      Dude, I was all of two years old. Light sockets were more interesting than Light Sabres at that time. My favorite past-time was feeling my diapers with crap. ;) Give me a break. Tough crowd, tonight, tip your waitress, what you think she makes $10.00 an hour? Sheesh.

      Besides, I actually have a lif...er I mean, no, I ...uhh, yeah,...I just coded 40 hrs straight...can I have my geek card back?

      (*snicker* that joke actually was quite funny though, damn you!)

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    5. Re:Exactly like that scene in Star Wars? by goonies · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When you look at the picture at the end of the article, you can see that one part of the laser is directed through a LCD screen, afa I understand it, if you change the pic on the LCD you change the hologram, changing pictures gives you animations if you can change 'em fast enough. Also, according to the graphic, the projection is in the room in front of the projection panel, not behind, like in the common art-photo-holos.

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    6. Re:Exactly like that scene in Star Wars? by goonies · · Score: 1

      Dooh, well i saw it... it is projected onto polymere film... its a still. So no animations until you replace the film against an instant projection panel... lets develop one... :P

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    7. Re:Exactly like that scene in Star Wars? by sodergren · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not quite... the diagram they show is sort of deceptive.

      What they show is a typical hologram recording setup, but with an LCD instead of the actual 3D object.

      Seems that use of this method would require multiple exposures in order to recreate 3d as perceived in the finished hologram- as the CAD object on the LCD is rotated, the mirror at point #3 would have to change angle in order to change the incidence angle of the laser on the film.

      This is nothing *really* new, except that it looks like they are using really large film plates and an LCD in place of the actual object.

      Another (much more difficult) way to produce computer-generated holograms would require a huge amount of processing power. A standard hologram captures the interference pattern generated by the incidence of the object and reference light beams.
      If a display existed with fine enough resolution to display such an interference pattern, a computer could conceivably generate realtime holographic displays by calculating the interference pattern for a particular scene. Would need a huge amount of processing power and display technology that's not quite commonplace just yet.

    8. Re:Exactly like that scene in Star Wars? by uradu · · Score: 3, Interesting

      > a computer could conceivably generate realtime holographic displays by
      > calculating the interference pattern

      I think that's where the real future of holograms lies. Conventional (high resolution, non-rainbow type) holograms are extremely hard to produce for two reasons: they can only create 1:1 scale images, and require an extremely stable benchtop, since the slightest movement or vibration will still be much larger than the wavelength of light, seriously disrupting the interference patterns. OTOH, a computer-generated hologram has none of these limitations, since it doesn't require an actual physical object. In fact, you could generate holograms of actual physical scenes by photographing them Matrix-style with cameras arranged circularly and then generating the interference patterns from that. Or you could even use one of these newfangled camera setups with position and attitude sensors to "paint" a scene and then generate a hologram at any scale from that.

      IIRC, high-rez holograms use emulsions with about 1000 lines per mm, so that's the type of display resolution required for high quality holograms. You might get by with less for acceptable quality, though. I think we'll see holographic displays like this along with the requisite computing power within the next 10-15 years.

    9. Re:Exactly like that scene in Star Wars? by Viper118 · · Score: 1

      "My favorite past-time was feeling my diapers with crap."

      Hahahah.... No excuse! I was -6 when the movie came out, and I knew the line. :)

    10. Re:Exactly like that scene in Star Wars? by bsupak · · Score: 1

      Ahhh... to be -6 again :)

      B

    11. Re:Exactly like that scene in Star Wars? by Andrewkov · · Score: 1
      No excuse! I was -6 when the movie came out, and I knew the line

      Sheesh, I saw that movie in the theatres when it first came out... Some days reading /. makes me feel old.

    12. Re:Exactly like that scene in Star Wars? by ChiChiCuervo · · Score: 1

      I was two years old as well and I distinctly remember both waiting in line to see star wars and seeing star wars. They were among my first memories.

      Ha!

      Please be sure to turn in your geek card before you leave, thank you and drive thru. ;-)

    13. Re:Exactly like that scene in Star Wars? by thoughtcrime · · Score: 1

      good shot, red 2!

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    14. Re:Exactly like that scene in Star Wars? by grokk · · Score: 1

      It was pretty clearly meant to imply that Star Wars-type projection -- even full motion -- holography was finally here. I'm glad someone besides me noticed the obvious: that this is technology which still uses a piece of (rather large, I gather) film. No Princess Leia's moving around here.

      I remember this type of of computer-generated hologram being discussed -- and produced - in the 1980's (a lot of small, 'commercial' holograms are computer-generated, aren't they?) -- the only difference here apparently being that these are large and impressive, elegant holograms; and that a cost-effective way has been developed to make them in full color. That's all. Just an 'incremental' step, really.

  11. Grrrr.... by rootedgimp · · Score: 2, Funny

    "that not only rendered the T-bird in perfect 3-D but also provided different views as observers moved around it, as if it were really there."
    Yeah, I got the same feeling from their ANNOYING POPUP.

    1. Re:Grrrr.... by jokell82 · · Score: 0

      I had no idea there were people on /. that still used browsers that supported popups. Here's a hint, head over here.

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  12. Book on background of holographic development by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I read the first part of the article and realized I knew next to nothing about holograms, so I checked out Amazon.com and fountthis excellent book. I just ordered it a couple minutes ago, but from what I can tell it looks like it will be really informative.

  13. A couple Comdexs back... by httpamphibio.us · · Score: 2, Interesting

    or would that be comdii? :) Anyway, a few years ago there was supposedly a company that "stole the show" with they three dimensional holographic projectors. None of the various news sites had pictures, and I don't watch much tv so I don't know if they had video... but one of the reps for the company said that these were reasonably priced and that you'd be seeing them in malls across the US by year end. Obviously, that never happened at least not in Seattle.

    Slightly OT... but oh well.

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    1. Re:A couple Comdexs back... by goodEvans · · Score: 1

      or would that be comdii?

      I think you're looking for Comdices...

    2. Re:A couple Comdexs back... by gomiam · · Score: 1
      That should be Comdeces then, as Comdices would be plural for Comdix :-)

      'til next post...

      Marcos (any likeness to chance is pure reality)

    3. Re:A couple Comdexs back... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      No, it wouldn't.

      Index -> indices

      Comdex -> comdices.

      And while we're at it, for anyone else who happens to be reading this:

      The plural of virus is NOT, NOT, NOT "virii". The plural is viruses. That is all.

      There is no plural for "virus" in classical Latin, so if we want to create a plural we use the standard English rules.

      "Virii" would imply that the singular was "virius", which it isn't.

    4. Re:A couple Comdexs back... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By that same analogy the plural of Comdex has to be Comdexes. It is certainly not derived from Latin, Greek, or any other language where the plural of the "-ex" suffix is "-ices".

      Oh, and another little tidbit: both "indices" and "indexes" are correct as the proper plural forms of "index".

    5. Re:A couple Comdexs back... by goodEvans · · Score: 1

      Look. If we're all going to be that picky about it, then it is actually COMDEX's, as COMDEX is an acronym. Put periods in after every letter if you like.

    6. Re:A couple Comdexs back... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      comdices you fsck

    7. Re:A couple Comdexs back... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >That should be Comdeces then, as Comdices would be plural for Comdix :-)

      Uhhh, no...remember, the plural of index is indices. Following this pattern, the plural of Comdex would be Comdices!

      But since it's an acronym, maybe it should just be "COMDEX events" or something like that?

    8. Re:A couple Comdexs back... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe the system you are referring to was a sort of pseudo-holographic system which involved a sandwich made of a series of transparent LCD panels. It provided a kind of 3D display by putting various components of the rendering on the various layers.
      Definitely not as cool as one where the image hovers above a table. Sign me up for one of the uncompleted Death Star from RotJ =).

    9. Re:A couple Comdexs back... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was a unit made by Texas Instruments that could project 3-dimensional holographic images. A volumetric display. Pictures? You can see some pictures of it at http://lasers.757.org. Under gallery, the TI OmniSky. The files all begin with the i1-.

    10. Re:A couple Comdexs back... by ObviousGuy · · Score: 1

      Now you're just trolling the apostrophe pedants! :-)

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  14. Translation by quintessent · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's almost exactly like that scene in the original Star Wars where R2D2 ran a movie of Princess Leia saying 'Help me Obi Wan.'

    Not really. It's a sheet of film, like the holograms you get on Windows CDs or ones you buy at the toy store. The difference is it's bigger, a lot better quality, and they can create it from a rendered (rather than real) object.

    Contrary to what the Slashdot description implies, there's no real-time anything involved here.

    1. Re:Translation by Ost99 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Contrary to what the Slashdot description implies, there's no real-time anything involved here.
      This however is more like it.

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    2. Re:Translation by gargle · · Score: 2

      Not really. The point is that it looks as though it were hovering in front of the screen, and you can look at it from different angles.

    3. Re:Translation by Xenopax · · Score: 2

      I so wish I could get one of those to hack around with. But $45K is a bit much for me. Hell, I can't even pay the $2k/mth developer's license.

    4. Re:Translation by zazas_mmmm · · Score: 1

      Maybe the hologram isn't exactly like the one on Star Wars, but it does say "help me Iacocca, you're my only hope"

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      I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing and it was everything that I thought it could be.

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    5. Re:Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Best of all, the actuality system is compatible with Lunix!!! w00t!!

    6. Re:Translation by zCyl · · Score: 2

      there's no real-time anything involved here.

      But there ARE real-time actual 3D holographic worlds used in research and development, that a person can walk through as if it were a real world. The National Center for Supercomputing Applications has a fascinating demonstration of this called the CAVE.

    7. Re:Translation by quintessent · · Score: 2

      That's really cool. Looks like a holodeck. Just make sure they keep the safety protocols on when you're doing hurricane exploration.

    8. Re:Translation by zCyl · · Score: 2

      You're worried about hurricanes? They ported Quake to that thing!!

    9. Re:Translation by Broccolist · · Score: 1

      That isn't holographic at all. It's just 4 huge 2d screens and good ol' 3d glasses. Still kinda neat, though.

  15. And in case you missed it the first time around... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey! Look what I can do!! *slap slap* Never fails to raise a smile :)

  16. They can't project Leia yet by steveha · · Score: 3, Informative

    This technique is a way to quickly make a hologram, on film. You can develop the film and view the hologram.

    What's cool is that they have figured out how to use an LCD screen to computer-generate the 3D holograms. Until now, to make a hologram, you needed a physical object to work from.

    I'd be interested to know how long it takes to make one of these holograms. If they could get their equipment fast enough to make, say, 24 holograms per second, perhaps they could leave out the film part and just generate moving holograms in realtime. I suspect it's a lot slower than that right now.

    steveha

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    1. Re:They can't project Leia yet by Jeffv323 · · Score: 1

      Only problem is the film is where the hologram comes from. You would effectively need a roll of film and a shutter for it to work.

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    2. Re:They can't project Leia yet by POPE+Mad+Mitch · · Score: 2, Informative
      Until now, to make a hologram, you needed a physical object to work from.

      Not true, for a number of years there have been techniques for creating entirely computer generated holograms. The biggest problem so far is getting a printer with a high enough resolution to do this directly. Photo reduction is generally used to compensate for this.

      However this technology might not (yet) scale well to commercial uses, the computation required seems to be pretty large.

      A quick google should find you plenty of examples.

    3. Re:They can't project Leia yet by CoderByBirth · · Score: 3, Informative

      My guess is that developing the hologram takes about as much time as developing a regular photograph.

      There are two kinds of holograms; the more expensive and complicated kind, and the less expensive and complicated and also less useful kind.

      The less expensive and complicated kind (there is probably a name for this, involving something about light diffraction) requires two laserbeams of equal wavelength and phase, one to light up the object, and one as a reference laser for the film. To display the hologram, it needs to be lit by the reference laser in the exact same angle and wavelength.
      I have actually made a hologram of this kind myself.

      The more complicated and expensive kind of hologram does not require a reference laser to display it, but is harder to make. I'd be surprised if it took less than an hour to make a holographic image using this technique, so realtime cinema is out of the question. Also, I don't see how this stuff could be projected.

    4. Re:They can't project Leia yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would still have to be displayed on a flat surface. Who cares if they can make a million frames a second if they still have to project it onto a screen? I want to see the thing floating in air and be able to walk around it 360 degrees.

    5. Re:They can't project Leia yet by holozebra · · Score: 1

      I'm a co-founder of the company. It takes about 24 hours to print a 2' x 2' panel, but we've demonstrated a hologram recorder testbed that is 60 times faster in monochrome (green only) - so the 24 hours could be 24 minutes when we work out the many details and make a production implementation.

  17. Goatse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Imagine, A full 3d version of goatse! Projected outside VA Software's HeadQuaters. Oh wait, VA Software is ran by some teenager from his basement. Well we can always use

    cat ascii-goatse.txt

    to show the ascii goatse on a UNIX terminal

  18. A Conversation with Ford Human Resources by geeky-troll · · Score: -1


    Human Resources Representative: Good afternoon, Stuart.

    Stuart: Hi.

    HR: As you may have heard, we have been conducting interviews with certain personnel lately. In the current economic climate, our company is looking to reduce costs wherever possible. This may also, unfortunately, include "right-sizing" in certain departments head counts. In order to be absolutely fair, we are giving the persons whose positions are being considered for right-sizing the opportunity to justify their current positions worth. Do you understand?

    Stuart: You're going to fire me?

    HR:No, Stuart. "Right-sizing" is not about firing people. Based on your answers to a few questions, your departments head count will be evaluated. This may include shifting of positions and responsibilities, adjustments to salaries, and in some cases individuals may be released from employment. Does this help you understand?

    Stuart: I guess so...

    HR: Alright, lets begin. According to our files, your present position is Unix Systems Administrator, is that correct?

    Stuart: Uhh, yeah.

    HR: And what responsibilities, in your view, does your position entail?

    Stuart: I administer to the Unix systems, which includes 4 GNU/Linux Samba servers, 8 load-balanced GNU/Linux Apache web servers, and a FreeBSD firewall... Hey, if you're looking to fi.. err, "right-size" somebody, why don't you look at the two NT admin guys? After all, they have much less experience than me; they're just a bunch of paper MCSEs, which just means you memorized a bunch of stuff and passed a test. They don't have any real admin experience, like with a GNU/Linux system.

    HR: We'll get to that in just a moment. In what ways would you say your expertise is vital to the continued operation of these servers?

    Stuart: Well, I know just about everything there is to know about GNU/Linux and the associated operating system utilities.

    HR: Mmmhmmm. In this email from the director of IS, he tells me that the company is considering the elimination of Linux from the environment in order to lower our TCO -- total cost of operation, I think? No, total cost of ownership. He says we are considering replacing these servers with Windows 2000 Advanced Server, running IIS 5. What do you think about this?

    Stuart: That's a stupid idea. Winbl... err, Windows is extremely difficult to administer. You have to keep up with new security patches coming out every 2 hours, and on top of all that you have to deal with the Blue Screen of Death every day, and Microsoft charges you like 500 bucks every time you call them.

    HR: So Windows is much harder to administer than Linux?

    Stuart: That's right. As a matter of fact, if you just got rid of the Microsl... err, Microsoft boxen, you could replace them with GNU/Linux and save some money on the licenses right there.

    HR: Explain this to me. If Windows is so difficult to administer, why are the NT administrators able to support twice as many servers, given their limited "real world" experience, and the fact that they are only "paper MCSEs"?

    Stuart: Err, they're probably just not doing their job. After all, my FreeBSD box has a 279 day uptime. Their Microsh... err, Microsoft boxen are up and down every week because of security patches.

    HR: Yes, the FreeBSD firewall is an interesting topic. We had an outside security consultant come in, and he found that the FreeBSD firewall had not been patched for a vulnerability in a program called "Open SSH". The NT servers were up-to-date on patches, and properly secured. In addition, a large proportion of helpdesk tickets are called in because of issues with the Samba file servers. How do you respond to this?

    Stuart: What? Gaah, the OpenSSH exploit was only a local root exploit!! There's no reason to take down a server with almost 300 days uptime to patch it!! And those people just have problems because they are running Windows 2000 on their PCs!! Microsoft deliberately changed the SMB standard to cripple open source competitors!! If the users weren't so obsessed with using their Outlook calendars and their Powerpoint presentations, they could just use Mandrake or something with StarOffice, and everything would be fine!!

    HR: There's no reason to get excited, Stuart. These are just questions we have to ask. Now, given that you say Linux is far easier to administer than Windows, is there any reason to believe that if we bring on another NT administrator, he or she would be unable to support the Linux and BSD systems until they get migrated to Windows 2000?

    Stuart: No... err, YES. It is easier, but... they just wouldn't understand!! There is a lot you have to know!! It's not just all point and click and all that kiddie stuff!!! It's really hard, you have to be able to compile kernels and edit conf files!! They couldn't do what I do!!!

    HR: OK, Stuart, I can understand your anxiety. We'll move away from that subject. Now, is there any possibility that you see for us to use your skills in another position? For instance, would you be interested in earning your MCSE to become a junior administrator when we roll out the new Windows 2000 servers?

    Stuart: NO!! I DON'T USE THAT MICROTRASH!! IT'S NOT LIKE I'M INTERESTED IN GETTING A BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH EVERY 2 SECONDS AND SPENDING THE REST OF THE TIME LISTENING TO STUPID USERS ASKING IDIOT QUESTIONS. OPEN SOURCE DOES EVERYTHING I NEED IT TO.

    HR: Well, that tells us just about everything we need to know. Stuart, your input is of course appreciated, and we will be taking all your comments under advisement. Your department head will be contacting you soon to let you know about any change in your employment status. Thank you for your time.

    Stuart: BYE.

  19. 3d images by dknj · · Score: 1

    I can see 3d images with my trusty red and blue paper glasses!

    -dk

    1. Re:3d images by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I can't.

      My eyes don't convergence where my eyes focus, except for really close objects. Its quite a common problem, and should not be ignored, I keep wondering how I and others will cope when holograms become more common. It's similiar to colour blindness now.

    2. Re:3d images by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Suicide.

    3. Re:3d images by martyn+s · · Score: 1

      Does anyone know what this condition is called? I'd like to learn more about it.

    4. Re:3d images by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wrote the parent in a hurry..

      I can't remember what its called. Its the most common cause for double vision. Typically people adapt by unconsiously blocking the image from one eye. It can be controlled with eye excercises and prism lenses, but bad cases are typically only reduced by this. It gets worse when you are tired or stressed. I can't see "Magic Eye" style 3D images, or 3D images requiring coloured glasses. I can however see colour 3D images that uses those clear glasses. This is because the focal point (The glasses) are close.

      Essentially I focus too close. My particular case is slightly complicated because I can focus at long range better with my right eye, but I see double. I can see singular out of my left eye, but things are slightly blurred, and I'm told that my brain is blocking my right eye, I'm not seeing binocular.

      It makes it difficult to judge distances, during the day is easy, since you can use relative sizes based on what the object is, but night time is harder. Cars are easy because the distance between head-lights/tail-lights are very similiar for most cars, however motocycles and cars with only one headlight are really hard, I tend to stay out of the way, and keep my current road position until they have gone. Fast moving objects such as tennis balls, etc are also really difficult.

  20. I was just thinking about 3D by ObviousGuy · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Actually I was thinking about 4D, as in hypercubes, and trying to wrap my mind around the idea of what it would be like for someone in the 3 dimensional world to suddenly be transported to a 4 dimensional world. I wondered if the perceptions that person would have would be of the fourth spatial dimension or merely three dimensional representations of the fourth dimension.

    Ford's plan to use three dimensional imaging to showcase cars is much like a thought I had today regarding the layout of my desk. I don't have one of those flat desks that are so common with executives. Rather, I have a few shelves and cubby holes to hold my stuff. I was trying to think of a way to organize all of it without actually pulling everything out of its place, and at that point I thought about modeling it on the computer using a CAD program. Unfortunately, I don't have one of those here at work and no one is likely to spring for one either, so I have to do it the old fashioned way with pen and paper.

    That's when it hit me. Why *isn't* there a three dimensional modeling program that can help lay out desktops? People rearrange their desktops all the time, whether to clean them off or to simply change the scenery. I didn't want to duplicate any effort that may have already gone into this so I submitted the question to Ask Slashdot, but apparently it's not edgy enough or something.

    Can anyone help me? Is there a 3 dimensional modeling tool for laying out desktops?

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    1. Re:I was just thinking about 3D by CoderByBirth · · Score: 1

      Hey pal, let me guess; when you're at work, you're just bored out of your mind, right?

      Dreaming about CAD-modelling your desktop is one of the classic symptoms of OBNHETD (Office Boredom by Not Having Enough To Do).

      Another classic symptom is surfing slashd - WHAT - wait - maybe I should make a CAD-model of my desktop

    2. Re:I was just thinking about 3D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We live in a universe with at least 4 dimensions. Some scientists believe there are as many as 12. I have yet to meet anyone or thing that only lives in 3 dimensions. And as for a creature of a lower dimension, its impossible to comprehend what a dimension above yours would look like/contain. If you could comprehend it then its not really of another dimension, it just means our universe has more dimensions than thought.

    3. Re:I was just thinking about 3D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You *are* in a 4D world, as your watch can confirm;P

    4. Re:I was just thinking about 3D by Kraft · · Score: 2

      "...idea of what it would be like for someone in the 3 dimensional world to suddenly be transported to a 4 dimensional world."

      Wouldn't a 4d object cast a 3d shadow? I mean, a 3d object casts a 2d shadow and a 2d object cast a 1d shadow. No?

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    5. Re:I was just thinking about 3D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Unfortunately the shadow from a 2d object is also 2d, so your theory needs a little work :)

    6. Re:I was just thinking about 3D by suicidal · · Score: 1

      Umm, the 4th Dimension is Time.

    7. Re:I was just thinking about 3D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately the shadow from a 2d object is also 2d, so your theory needs a little work :)

      Only if your light source is in 3d. In 2d, a shadow is projected onto a 1d line.

    8. Re:I was just thinking about 3D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah. Now, where to find a 4d (let's pretend the 4th dimension I speak of is spacial, not temporal) light source that will cast a 3d shadow in, say, a block of acrylic?

      :)

    9. Re:I was just thinking about 3D by Iridar · · Score: 1

      Try reading Flatland (Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions (Penguin Classics)). It should answer most of your questions about multi-dimensional perspective.

      Iridar

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    10. Re:I was just thinking about 3D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Only if your light source is in 3d. In 2d, a shadow is projected onto a 1d line. ...that is, if the surface where the shadow is cast is flat.

    11. Re:I was just thinking about 3D by Dutch_Cap · · Score: 0

      "Unfortunately the shadow from a 2d object is also 2d, so your theory needs a little work :)"

      In a threedimensional universe, yes, a 2-dimensional object could cast a 2-dimensional shadow. If you put a 2-dimensional object in 2-dimensional space, it can only cast a 1-dimensional shadow, though.

      In the same way a 3-dimensional object could cast 3-dimensional shadows if you put it in a 4-dimensional space.

    12. Re:I was just thinking about 3D by cthulhubob · · Score: 2

      > Unfortunately the shadow from a 2d object is also 2d, so your theory needs a little work :)

      It actually depends on the subspace you're talking about. If you're talking about a 3d subspace (which I assume you are), the shadow of a 2d object can be either 1d or 2d, depending on the angle of the light to the surface of the 2d object. (if the light hits edge on, it casts a 1d shadow)

      In a 2d subspace, objects only cast 1d shadows, because there is no "sideways" in which the light can hit the flat part of the surface. The 2d light source is always edge on to the 2d object occupying the same plane.

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  21. The Troll Polka (Geschlecht mit ziegen) by pwpbot · · Score: -1
    Due to the efforts of the Slash crew, I have been reduced to a crapflood bot. Stay tuned for more updates once they come in.

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  22. No pics = no technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In other words, I'll believe it when I see it. Business 2.0 should learn that there is no version in business, you just listen to your customers and fulfill their needs to get compensated. The rules of biz haven't changed but my expectations have and me wants some pics already!

  23. I bet it wasn't even a hologram by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They probably just put the real thing there with a fence around it and shined some snazzy projectors on it and said "oooooh!".

  24. Bob Marley by swankypimp · · Score: 1
    Customers include Boeing (BA), Exxon (XOM), and Ford (F), not to mention the Bob Marley Museum in Kingston, Jamaica, which recently bought a life-size hologram of the legendary reggae king.

    "Dude, let's get stoned and stare at the hologram!" =)

    This is often the way the economy works: (1)Company creates a new technology. (2) Rich people immediately find a flippant/sketchy use for it. (3)Company makes money from them, uses it to refine their technology. (4) Technology eventually gets better and cheaper to produce. It becomes ubiquitous.

    Case in point, the camcorder. Rich/sketchy people spend thousands on them to create homemade porn and artsy black and white existential movies. Tech. improves, it gets cheaper, and now a decent camcorder is in the $150 range.

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    1. Re:Bob Marley by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's strange, somehow it seems to me you're suggesting that all these "sketchy/rich people" are actually helping technology to develop ? I thought they only helped in making it mainstream / accepted / publicised.

  25. How's that supposed to work??? by Qbertino · · Score: 2

    You definitely need something to project a hologram on to. It doesn't just work with thin air. (Air's invisible, remember?)
    The only solution for a real walkaround 3D hologram I could think of would be some kind of plexiglas bubble filled with smoke of something other half translucent (to let the lasers through)/half "lightable" (to catch the light and reflect it for the eyes).
    Am I making sense or what?

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    1. Re:How's that supposed to work??? by GnomeKing · · Score: 1

      I dont remember where I read it, but I thought that there was a project involving creating a point of light at the intersection of 3 beams, where the beams were not visible and the point of light appeared to be floating in mid air

      Does anyone else remember that?

    2. Re:How's that supposed to work??? by paganizer · · Score: 2, Informative

      I could have SWORN that this had already been done right; I remember reading about a big fish tank-ish structure, filled with liquid in which phosphorescent particles were suspended, and multiple red, green and blue lasers above and below the tank, intersect 2 lasers at a certain point and that point glows red, green, blue, whatever, the particles glowed for a few milliseconds, long enough so that when the proper 3d shape was traced, it generated a 3d image.
      I recall the frame rate sucked, something like 1 per 2 seconds.
      Anyone else recall this? it was maybe 4 years ago, had something to do with a japanese car company, I think... I've done a relatively complete search, came up with nothing.
      If I just dreamed it, consider this trademarked prior art.

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    3. Re:How's that supposed to work??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I saw this a long time ago, at least 10 years in an arcade game, where you controlled a cowboy..
      can't remember the name of the game..

      This is old hat.

      Later,
      Bill

    4. Re:How's that supposed to work??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't trademark an invention.

    5. Re:How's that supposed to work??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF? Doesn't everything that's been invented have a trademark?

    6. Re:How's that supposed to work??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about Hi-magnetic fields that control the movement of photons in a vacumm? Just a idea.. but it would probably require more power then 100 trillion times our sun. Also would probably ripe a hole in space time and we wouldn't last long enough to see if it worked.

      Ok :-)

    7. Re:How's that supposed to work??? by tfinniga · · Score: 1

      The way that a hologram works is the two laser beams. To create a hologram, shine two laser beams onto some film - one a direct beam (the reference beam), and the other being reflected off the object. The pattern of collosions of light is recorded in the film. When developed, shine another laser at the film with the same angle and properties as the reference beam, and voila, the reflected light emerges.
      It's basically obj+ref=film, film-ref=obj. But the fact that it actually works is the magic of it. (The holograms that you typically see being sold are modified so that the reference beam can be just a bright white light from overhead, but they aren't 'true' holograms.)

      So, to answer your question directly, you can't see normal lasers as they shoot across a room, because there is nothing to bounce off and deflect light towards your eye. Holograms, on the other hand, you can see, because the laser bounces off of other light.

      As a side note, other people have been doing stuff like this already, which is used to help doctors visualize cat scans and so forth.

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    8. Re:How's that supposed to work??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The original laser light reflected from the object inteferes with the reference laser setting up a pattern of varying optical density in the film. You view a hologram by pointing a reference beam at the film and it is refracte/transmitted in a way that reproduces the original wavefront. Only one laser is used to view the hologram and at no time does the light bounce off other light.

  26. A screen made of fog by CmdrTaco+(editor) · · Score: 1, Troll
    Rather than using holographs, Ismo Rakkolainen has created a screen in the air using a low-cost air-blower, drinking straws, plastic tubing, cardboard boxes, and some liquid nitrogen. It may not be 3D, but I think it could be just as useful and much less expensive to create than a true hologram.

    Anwyay, before we try to make 3D representations of objects in the air we should try to make them in 2D reliably. We had to learn to walk before we ran, now didn't we?

    1. Re:A screen made of fog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was on the old show "Sea Quest: DSV"!

    2. Re:A screen made of fog by Pete+(big-pete) · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Anwyay, before we try to make 3D representations of objects in the air we should try to make them in 2D reliably. We had to learn to walk before we ran, now didn't we?

      I think you could call a device to create a 2D image in the air reliably a "projector"? ;)

      -- Pete.

  27. This technology... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... is closer to those cars you get in your box of cereal where you tilt the card left and right and the picture animates.

    Go technology!

  28. No, you can't walk around it... by Richard+Kirk · · Score: 2, Informative
    'It's almost exactly like that scene in the original Star Wars where R2D2 ran a movie of Princess Leia saying 'Help me Obi Wan.'

    I'm afraid not. The image does not move and you can't walk very far around it. Where the reflected beam and the reference beam interfere, you get the same distribution of light you might get off the original 3-D object. However, the image only extends to the edge of the holographic plate. Wander around to the front of the car and it disappears. Go around to the other side of where the car ought to be, and it stays gone, because there is nothing solid bouncing the light back.

    Is this a real bit of kit, and if so, why don't they show a photograph of it?

  29. Forget Pr0n by datadictator · · Score: 1

    Imagine what this could do if somebody figures out how to create a holographic live webcam - and then couples it with cyberdildonics....
    Wanted: One rich investor to pay me for developing it. A lot of hot uninhibited girls who are not morally opposed to being monetarilly exploited.
    Come join my soon to exist, dynamic company as we strive to bring the world the ultimate in relationship ruination.

  30. I could also be used with... by PrimeWaveZ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember at the Disneyland "Innoventions" thing, Silicon Graphics had this face scanner that would map someone's face into a 3-D object onscreen, and then manipulate it and whatever. While relatively old technology, not only could the new holographic methods be used to display nonphysical prototypes, it could also be used in conjunction with an object scanner to communicate dimensions and depth of existing objects in a more real form from a great distance.

    1. Re:I could also be used with... by Em+Emalb · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Damn dude, you are one integrated slashgeek. Get it over at think geek did ya? Did it hurt when they yanked out the wires at the airport?

      for those of you that don't get the dumb humor, read the title of the post again.

      -1 obvious

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  31. Company behind it by jrest · · Score: 4, Informative

    Zebra Imaging is the company behind it all. Might be slashdotted already...

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    1. Re:Company behind it by Kraft · · Score: 2

      I cant reach the site either.. hmm... however, you can get a bit of a feel with the site this way.

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      Live and let live
    2. Re:Company behind it by daddymac · · Score: 1

      I went to the site and they were using Quicktime VR to show off their stuff. What I'd like to see are actual photographs of the holograms in use.

      --
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    3. Re:Company behind it by GNUman · · Score: 1

      From the site, and I quote:

      "The three-dimensional effect is visible as the viewer looks from side to side or up and down, with viewing angles of over 100 degrees - more than three times that of a conventional hologram."

      So, it's not a "walk-around" thing.

    4. Re:Company behind it by holozebra · · Score: 1

      I'm a company co-founder. We've got some actual photos and videos of holograms with people on the gallery section of the website. It's been rather slow today with all the hits though. We were not ready for a media blitz with CNN.com and slashdot and business 2.0 giving us attention.

    5. Re:Company behind it by holozebra · · Score: 1

      It's true we have about 100 degree output angle, but we've made spinning flat discs and pyramid shaped displays that you can walk 360 around.

  32. The Linux Gay Conspiracy by pwpbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Due to the efforts of the Slash crew, I have been reduced to a crapflood bot. Stay tuned for more updates once they come in.

    It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed of so called 'alternative sexuality,' which includes anything from hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to pedophilia.

    What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux's most outspoken advocates:

    • Linus Torvalds is an anagram of slit anus or VD 'L,' clearly referring to himself by the first initial.
    • Richard M. Stallman, spokespervert for the Gaysex's Not Unusual 'movement' is an anagram of mans cram thrill ad.
    • Alan Cox is barely an anagram of anal cox which is just so filthy and unchristian it unnerves me.

    I'm sure that Eric S. Raymond, composer of the satanic homosexual propaganda diatribe The Cathedral and the Bizarre, is probably an anagram of something queer, but we don't need to look that far as we know he's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy's rectum. Update: Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for secondary rim and cord in my arse. It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer.

    Update the Second: It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called Fetchmail, which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male' -- a disgusting practise. For those not in the know, 'felching' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other's rectum. In fact, it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail, turning it into 'e-male.'

    As far as Richard 'Master' Stallman goes, that filthy fudge-packer was actually quoted on leftist commie propaganda site Salon.com as saying the following: 'I've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance,' he says. 'It's about being able to question conventional wisdom,' he asserts. 'I believe in love, but not monogamy,' he says plainly.

    And this isn't a made up troll bullshit either! He actually stated this tripe, which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he's a flaming homo slut!

    Speaking about 'flaming,' who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz. Although an obvious deviant anagram cannot be found from his name, he has already confessed, nay boasted of the homosexual perversion of corrupting the innocence of young children. To quote from the article linked:

    'I've got a rare kidney disease,' I told her. 'I have to go to the bathroom a lot. You can come with me if you want, but it takes a while. Is that okay with you? Do you want a note from my doctor?'

    Is this why you were touching your penis in the cinema, Jon? And letting the other boys touch it too?

    We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot's resident Gasbag.' Is there any more doubt? For those fortunate few who aren't aware of the list of homosexual terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code,' a 'Gasbag' is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra (or to use the common parlance, 'piss-pipe'), then his homosexual lover blows firmly down the straw to inflate his scrotum. This is, of course, when he's not busy violating the dignity and copyright of posters to Slashdot by gathering together their postings and publishing them en masse to further his twisted and manipulative journalistic agenda.

    Sick, disgusting antichristian perverts, the lot of them.

    In addition, many of the Linux distributions (a 'distribution' is the most common way to spread the faggots' wares) are run by faggot groups. The Slackware distro is named after the 'Slack-wear' fags wear to allow easy access to the anus for sexual purposes. Furthermore, Slackware is a close anagram of claw arse, a reference to the homosexual practise of anal fisting. The Mandrake product is run by a group of French faggot satanists, and is named after the faggot nickname for the vibrator. It was also chosen because it is an anagram for dark amen and ram naked, which is what they do.

    Another 'distro,' (abbrieviated as such because it sounds a bit like 'Disco,' which is where homosexuals preyed on young boys in the 1970s), is Debian, an anagram of in a bed, which could be considered innocent enough (after all, a bed is both where we sleep and pray), until we realise what other names Debian uses to describe their foul wares. 'Woody' is obvious enough, being a term for the erect male penis, glistening with pre-cum. But far sicker is the phrase 'Frozen Potato' that they use. This filthy term, again found in the secret homosexual 'Sauce Code,' refers to the solo homosexual practice of defecating into a clear polythene bag, shaping the turd into a crude approximation of the male phallus, then leaving it in the freezer overnight until it becomes solid. The practitioner then proceeds to push the frozen 'potato' up his own rectum, squeezing it in and out until his tight young balls erupt in a screaming orgasm.

    And Red Hat is secret homo slang for the tip of a penis that is soaked in blood from a freshly violated underage ringpiece.

    The fags have even invented special tools to aid their faggotry! For example, the 'supermount' tool was devised to allow deeper penetration, which is good for fags because it gives more pressure on the prostate gland. 'Automount' is used, on the other hand, because Linux users are all fat and gay, and need to mount each other automatically.

    The depths of their depravity can be seen in their use of 'mount points.' These are, plainly speaking, the different points of penetration. The main one is obviously /anus, but there are others. Militant fags even say 'there is no /opt mount point' because for these dirty perverts faggotry is not optional but a way of life.

    More evidence is in the fact that Linux users say how much they love `man`, even going so far as to say that all new Linux users (who are in fact just innocent heterosexuals indoctrinated by the gay propaganda) should try out `man`. In no other system do users boast of their frequent recourse to a man.

    Other areas of the system also show Linux's inherit gayness. For example, people are often told of the 'FAQ,' but how many innocent heterosexual Windows users know what this actually means. The answer is shocking: Faggot Anal Quest: the voyage of discovery for newly converted fags!

    Even the title 'Slashdot' originally referred to a homosexual practice. Slashdot of course refers to the popular gay practice of blood-letting. The Slashbots, of course are those super-zealous homosexuals who take this perversion to its extreme by ripping open their anuses, as seen on the site most popular with Slashdot users, the depraved work of Satan, http://www.eff.org/.

    The editors of Slashdot also have homosexual names: 'Hemos' is obvious in itself, being one vowel away from 'Homos.' But even more sickening is 'Commander Taco' which sounds a bit like 'Commode in Taco,' filthy gay slang for a pair of spreadeagled buttocks that are caked with excrement. (The best form of lubrication, they insist.) Sometimes, these 'Taco Commodes' have special 'Salsa Sauce' (blood from a ruptured rectum) and 'Cheese' (rancid flakes of penis discharge) toppings. And to make it even worse, Slashdot runs on Apache!

    The Apache server, whose use among fags is as prevalent as AIDS, is named after homosexual activity -- as everyone knows, popular faggot band, the Village People, featured an Apache Indian, and it is for him that this gay program is named.

    And that's not forgetting the use of patches in the Linux fag world -- patches are used to make the anus accessible for repeated anal sex even after its rupture by a session of fisting.

    To summarise: Linux is gay. 'Slash -- Dot' is the graphical description of the space between a young boy's scrotum and anus. And BeOS is for hermaphrodites and disabled 'stumpers.'

    FEEDBACK

    What worries me is how much you know about what gay people do. I'm scared I actually read this whole thing. I think this post is a good example of the negative effects of Internet usage on people. This person obviously has no social life anymore and had to result to writing something as stupid as this. And actually take the time to do it too. Although... I think it was satire.. blah.. it's early. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

    Well, the only reason I know all about this is because I had the misfortune to read the Linux 'Sauce code' once. Although publicised as the computer code needed to get Linux up and running on a computer (and haven't you always been worried about the phrase 'Monolithic Kernel'?), this foul document is actually a detailed and graphic description of every conceivable degrading perversion known to the human race, as well as a few of the major animal species. It has shocked and disturbed me, to the point of needing to shock and disturb the common man to warn them of the impending homo-calypse which threatens to engulf our planet.

    You must work for the government. Trying to post the most obscene stuff in hopes that slashdot won't be able to continue or something, due to legal woes. If i ever see your ugly face, i'm going to stick my fireplace poker up your ass, after it's nice and hot, to weld shut that nasty gaping hole of yours. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

    Doesn't it give you a hard-on to imagine your thick strong poker ramming it's way up my most sacred of sphincters? You're beyond help, my friend, as the only thing you can imagine is the foul penetrative violation of another man. Are you sure you're not Eric Raymond? The government, being populated by limp-wristed liberals, could never stem the sickening tide of homosexual child molesting Linux advocacy. Hell, they've given NAMBLA free reign for years!

    you really should post this logged in. i wish i could remember jebus's password, cuz i'd give it to you. -- mighty jebus, Slashdot

    Thank you for your kind words of support. However, this document shall only ever be posted anonymously. This is because the 'Open Sauce' movement is a sham, proposing homoerotic cults of hero worshipping in the name of freedom. I speak for the common man. For any man who prefers the warm, enveloping velvet folds of a woman's vagina to the tight puckered ringpiece of a child. These men, being common, decent folk, don't have a say in the political hypocrisy that is Slashdot culture. I am the unknown liberator.

    ROLF LAMO i hate linux FAGGOTS -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

    We shouldn't hate them, we should pity them for the misguided fools they are... Fanatical Linux zeal-outs need to be herded into camps for re-education and subsequent rehabilitation into normal heterosexual society. This re-education shall be achieved by forcing them to watch repeats of Baywatch until the very mention of Pamela Anderson causes them to fill their pants with healthy heterosexual jism.

    Actually, that's not at all how scrotal inflation works. I understand it involves injecting sterile saline solution into the scrotum. I've never tried this, but you can read how to do it safely in case you're interested. (Before you moderate this down, ask yourself honestly -- who are the real crazies -- people who do scrotal inflation, or people who pay $1000+ for a game console?) -- double_h, Slashdot

    Well, it just goes to show that even the holy Linux 'sauce code' is riddled with bugs that need fixing. (The irony of Jon Katz not even being able to inflate his scrotum correctly has not been lost on me.) The Linux pervert elite already acknowledge this, with their queer slogan: 'Given enough arms, all rectums are shallow.' And anyway, the PS2 sucks major cock and isn't worth the money. Intellivision forever!

    dude did u used to post on msnbc's nt bulletin board now that u are doing anti-gay posts u also need to start in with anti-black stuff too c u in church -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

    For one thing, whilst Linux is a cavalcade of queer propaganda masquerading as the future of computing, NT is used by people who think nothing better of encasing their genitals in quick setting plaster then going to see a really dirty porno film, enjoying the restriction enforced onto them. Remember, a wasted arousal is a sin in the eyes of the Catholic church. Clearly, the only god-fearing Christian operating system in existence is CP/M -- The Christian Program Monitor. All computer users should immediately ask their local pastor to install this fine OS onto their systems. It is the only route to salvation.

    Secondly, this message is for every man. Computers know no colour. Not only that, but one of the finest websites in the world is maintained by a Black Man . Now fuck off you racist donkey felcher.

    And don't forget that slashdot was written in Perl, which is just too close to 'Pearl Necklace' for comfort.... oh wait; that's something all you heterosexuals do.... I can't help but wonder how much faster the trolls could do First-Posts on this site if it were redone in PHP... I could hand-type dynamic HTML pages faster than Perl can do them. -- phee, Slashdot

    Although there is nothing unholy about the fine heterosexual act of ejaculating between a woman's breasts, squirting one's load up towards her neck and chin area, it should be noted that Perl (standing for Pansies Entering Rectums Locally) is also close to 'Pearl Monocle,' 'Pearl Nosering,' and the ubiquitous 'Pearl Enema.'

    One scary thing about Perl is that it contains hidden homosexual messages. Take the following code: LWP::Simple -- It looks innocuous enough, doesn't it? But look at the line closely: There are two colons next to each other! As Larry 'Balls to the' Wall would openly admit in the Perl Documentation, Perl was designed from the ground up to indoctrinate it's programmers into performing unnatural sexual acts -- having two colons so closely together is clearly a reference to the perverse sickening act of 'colon kissing,' whereby two homosexual queers spread their buttocks wide, pressing their filthy torn sphincters together. They then share small round objects like marbles or golfballs by passing them from one rectum to another using muscle contraction alone. This is also referred to in programming 'circles' as 'Parameter Passing.'

    And PHP stands for Perverted Homosexual Penetration. Didn't you know?

    Thank you for your valuable input on this. I am sure you will be never forgotten. BTW: Did I mention that this could be useful in terraforming Mars? Mars rulaa. -- Eimernase, Slashdot

    Well, I don't know about terraforming Mars, but I do know that homosexual Linux Advocates have been probing Uranus for years.

    That's inspiring. Keep up the good work, AC. May God in his wisdom grant you the strength to bring the plain honest truth to this community, and make it pure again. Yours, Cerberus. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

    *sniff* That brings a tear to my eye. Thank you once more for your kind support. I have taken faith in the knowledge that I am doing the Good Lord's work, but it is encouraging to know that I am helping out the common man here.

    However, I should be cautious about revealing your name 'Cerberus' on such a filthy den of depravity as Slashdot. It is a well known fact that the 'Kerberos' documentation from Microsoft is a detailed manual describing, in intimate, exacting detail, how to sexually penetrate a variety of unwilling canine animals; be they domesticated, wild, or mythical. Slashdot posters have taken great pleasure in illegally spreading this documentation far and wide, treating it as an 'extension' to the Linux 'Sauce Code,' for the sake of 'interoperability.' (The slang term they use for nonconsensual intercourse -- their favourite kind.)

    In fact, sick twisted Linux deviants are known to have LAN parties, (Love of Anal Naughtiness, needless to say.), wherein they entice a stray dog, known as the 'Samba Mount,' into their homes. Up to four of these filth-sodden blasphemers against nature take turns to plunge their erect, throbbing, uncircumcised members, conkers-deep, into the rectum, mouth, and other fleshy orifices of the poor animal. Eventually, the 'Samba Mount' collapses due to 'overload,' and needs to be 'rebooted.' (i.e., kicked out into the street, and left to fend for itself.) Many Linux users boast about their 'uptime' in such situations.

    Inspiring stuff! If only all trolls were this quality! -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

    If only indeed. You can help our brave cause by moderating this message up as often as possible. I recommend '+1, Underrated,' as that will protect your precious Karma in Metamoderation. Only then can we break through the glass ceiling of Homosexual Slashdot Culture. Is it any wonder that the new version of Slashcode has been christened 'Bender'???

    If we can get just one of these postings up to at least '+1,' then it will be archived forever! Others will learn of our struggle, and join with us in our battle for freedom!

    It's pathetic you've spent so much time writing this. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

    I am compelled to document the foulness and carnal depravity that is Linux, in order that we may prepare ourselves for the great holy war that is to follow. It is my solemn duty to peel back the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wire brush of enlightenment.

    As with any great open-source project, you need someone asking this question, so I'll do it. When the hell is version 2.0 going to be ready?!?! -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

    I could make an arrogant, childish comment along the lines of 'Every time someone asks for 2.0, I won't release it for another 24 hours,' but the truth of the matter is that I'm quite nervous of releasing a 'number two,' as I can guarantee some filthy shit-slurping Linux pervert would want to suck it straight out of my anus before I've even had chance to wipe.

    I desperately want to suck your monolithic kernel, you sexy hunk, you. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

    I sincerely hope you're Natalie Portman.

    Dude, nothing on slashdot larger than 3 paragraphs is worth reading. Try to distill the message, whatever it was, and maybe I'll read it. As it is, I have to much open source software to write to waste even 10 seconds of precious time. 10 seconds is all its gonna take M$ to whoop Linux's ass. Vigilence is the price of Free (as in libre -- from the fine, frou frou French language) Software. Hack on fellow geeks, and remember: Friday is Bouillabaisse day except for heathens who do not believe that Jesus died for their sins. Those godless, oil drench, bearded sexist clowns can pull grits from their pantaloons (another fine, fine French word) and eat that. Anyway, try to keep your message focused and concise. For concision is the soul of derision. Way. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

    What the fuck?

    I've read your gay conspiracy post version 1.3.0 and I must say I'm impressed. In particular, I appreciate how you have managed to squeeze in a healthy dose of the latent homosexuality you gay-bashing homos tend to be full of. Thank you again. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

    Well bugger me!

    ooooh honey. how insecure are you!!! wann a little massage from deare bruci. love you -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

    Fuck right off!

    IMPORTANT: This message needs to be heard (Not HURD, which is an acronym for 'Huge Unclean Rectal Dilator') across the whole community, so it has been released into the Public Domain. You know, that licence that we all had before those homoerotic crypto-fascists came out with the GPL (Gay Penetration License) that is no more than an excuse to see who's got the biggest feces-encrusted cock. I would have put this up on Freshmeat, but that name is known to be a euphemism for the tight rump of a young boy.

    Come to think of it, the whole concept of 'Source Control' unnerves me, because it sounds a bit like 'Sauce Control,' which is a description of the homosexual practice of holding the base of the cock shaft tightly upon the point of ejaculation, thus causing a build up of semenal fluid that is only released upon entry into an incision made into the base of the receiver's scrotum. And 'Open Sauce' is the act of ejaculating into another mans face or perhaps a biscuit to be shared later. Obviously, 'Closed Sauce' is the only Christian thing to do, as evidenced by the fact that it is what Cathedrals are all about.

    Contributors: (although not to the eternal game of 'soggy biscuit' that open 'sauce' development has become) Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, phee, Anonymous Coward, mighty jebus, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, double_h, Anonymous Coward, Eimernase, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward. Further contributions are welcome.

    Current changes: This version sent to FreeWIPO by 'Bring BackATV' as plain text. Reformatted everything, added all links back in (that we could match from the previous version), many new ones (Slashbot bait links). Even more spelling fixed. Who wrote this thing, CmdrTaco himself?

    Previous changes: Yet more changes added. Spelling fixed. Feedback added. Explanation of 'distro' system. 'Mount Point' syntax described. More filth regarding `man` and Slashdot. Yet more fucking spelling fixed. 'Fetchmail' uncovered further. More Slashbot baiting. Apache exposed. Distribution licence at foot of document.

    ANUX -- A full Linux distribution... Up your ass!

    Feces Thrower



    -pwpbot
  33. Hologram soft porn's been done already by darkonc · · Score: 2
    Back in the late '70s the Ontario Science Center in Toronto had an example of walk-around hologram. It was actually done as multiple verticle hologram strips done duch that, as you walked around, you'd see multiple shifting shapes.

    In this case it was a girl in her underwear squirming out of her panties.
    ...All funded by government money and admission fees.

    Not that I minded, of course.

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    1. Re:Hologram soft porn's been done already by teaserX · · Score: 1

      > ...girl in her underwear squirming out of her panties
      Of course you know that the Google Image search for Ontario Science Center is totally slashdotted now.

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    2. Re:Hologram soft porn's been done already by operagost · · Score: 1

      Striptease in a science museum... right. Ahem. Anyway, what you saw was images embedded in what I believe is called lenticular plastic. They're not holograms, it's just a few layers of 2D photos or drawings.

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    3. Re:Hologram soft porn's been done already by ashitaka · · Score: 2

      Bszzzt. Wrong. He's talking about long strip holograms (NO, not that kind of stripping) That scanned across the film as the object was moved or moving.

      I remember seeing these at the OSC. As you walked around not only did you see the object from a different viewpoint but you also saw a slow-motion movie. The motion had to be slow or else the image would streak (NO, not that kind of streaking!) which was used to artistic effect by some.

      This was used in Logan's Run where you see the actors heads slowly revolving and mouthing words as part of some interrogation.

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  34. Page widening is back! by Klerck · · Score: -1
    The janitors thought that widening was fixed (and it was for about an hour), but after I was on the case for about five minutes, I discovered another method.

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    1. Re:Page widening is back! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      No it's not you fucking cock monkey!
      For so long I have wanted to have this fixed. Of all the other crap that the children post to slashdot, this was just plain annoying with no humour or sense to it whatsoever.

      Klerck, I hope you die a slow and lonely death.

      All of your doubts about yourself are true.

      Every single weakness you know yourself to have is seen by everyone around you.

      You deserve no empathy as a human being.

      You deserve no acknowledgement of your existance.

      When you have finished being a complete waste of space, could you close the door behind you as you leave.

      Thanks.

      No really, you can go now.

      Stop your pathetic whining and go.

  35. Natalie Portman? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think the question on all of our minds is this: Can we apply this technology to Natalie Portman?

    1. Re:Natalie Portman? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As long as she has to wear the white suit. In a cold spaceship.

  36. Oooo by OSUJoe · · Score: 0

    I don't I would've used "picture" as the verb there...

  37. Wouldn't it be enough if he could... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Stay on target. Stay on target!"

  38. Sure, its cool, but.....why bother? by Bowie+J.+Poag · · Score: 0, Troll



    Of course i'd like to have one..And development of visualization technologies like these are important. However, I have to ask myself...if I were the President of Ford, why bother with such a thing?

    The scenario they relate in the article is one where automotive designers and engineers can "walk around" a theorhetical car, as opposed to fabricating a prototype. Sure, prototypes are expensive, but on the other hand, I'd be hard pressed to justify spending what probably amounts to millions of dollars on a holographic setup that could be duplicated with a handful of $100 pairs of polarized stereo LCD goggles. The crux of the problem seems to me to be more of a software one, rather than a hardware one. Do you really need to have a room-sized holographic projection system? Couldn't you accomplish the same effect with a sufficiently advanced pair of goggles with the right software?

    The article fails to adequately address why its a necessary technology... only that its whiz-bang neato and reminds the author of R2D2. :(

    --
    Bowie J. Poag

    1. Re:Sure, its cool, but.....why bother? by holozebra · · Score: 1

      According to the engineers, designers, and managers we've spoken with in a variety of different car companies, they'd like a 3D display system that is much more natural and unencumbering than what exists now. If the stereoscopic technologies were good enough, they might be tempted to use fewer clay models today, but currently they are not.

  39. Slashdot Gripes 1.01 by pwpbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Due to the efforts of the Slash crew, I have been reduced to a crapflood bot. Stay tuned for more updates once they come in.

    - posters that spell Microsoft with a $ or spell it MicroCrap or something.
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    - the Slashdot crew doesn't have any other jobs other than Slashdot, yet it seems it was better run when Rob was running it on a Multia in college in his spare time.
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    - people who think that this is the last year ever we'll ever have to hire C++ programmers, because as we all know, Java is going to "kill it off"
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    -pwpbot

    1. Re:Slashdot Gripes 1.01 by pwpbot by bigbadwlf · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      - cult-like devotion to Linux. reserve your fanaticism for a church, not a kernel.

      Funny you mention the word "cult."
      That's how I see church.

    2. Re:Slashdot Gripes 1.01 by pwpbot by anonymous+cowfart · · Score: -1

      Yes, and that is precisely why you should reserve your cult-like devotion there.

      --

      So I'm a pervert. Welcome to the Internet.
  40. Porn by sheriff_p · · Score: 2

    Jokes about porn aside, the thing that'll bring holographic TV and so on to your living room will be the porn industry.

    They seem to have been behind most other home-entertainment systems recently, and so, let's hope the porn industry DOES get interested in this.

    --
    Score:-1, Funny
    1. Re:Porn by DarkHelmet · · Score: 2, Funny

      Help me Ron Jeremy! You're my only hope!

      --
      /^[A-Z0-9._%+-]+@[A-Z0-9.-]+\.[A-Z]{2,4}$/i
    2. Re:Porn by snake_dad · · Score: 1

      Not a chance. He definately does not have a light sabre. :)

      --
      karma capped .sig seeking available Slashdot poster for long-term relationship.
    3. Re:Porn by coljac · · Score: 2

      Yes, we all know that DVD and 5.1 channel surround-sound have only been adopted because of the infinite possibilities of the massive porn DVD industry, nothing to do with the inherent quality and convenience of the format itself.

      --
      Everyone knows that damage is done to the soul by bad motion pictures. -Pope Pius XI
  41. Build it, and they will come by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sorry, it had to be said

    1. Re:Build it, and they will come by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh god... SHAME ON YOU!!! And shame on me for not thinking of it first

  42. Hey that's neat by Neillparatzo · · Score: 1

    They're using state-of-the art hologram technology to visualize, um, an internal combustion fossil fuel-burning car. Ain't entrenchment a blast?

    Next, we'll be using sophisticated CAD simulations to design the latest generation of high-performance vehicles.

    1. Re:Hey that's neat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When is the Speical Type R coming out?

      And where do I get it?

      Seems like Acura is moving towards horelessless drive train system after all, those crazy japs...

  43. international court of law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    The international court of law has been founded to presecute people who perform terrible acts against humanity, who will otherwise escape justice, is that unlawfull, unjust, a danger to democracy or a threat to the soverrenity of a nation ? no it is NOT. It is a danger ot people with power who want to act freely without any danger of prosecution. AND WHY IS THE USA OPPOSED ? EXACTLY. QED.

  44. testetst by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

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  45. pr0n jokes ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Heh, this is silly.... I can already think of possible abuse (don't click here) [alltheweb.com]

  46. Re:Natalie Portman?, Jokes, nah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    arg, p0rn jokes??? Tiz not a joke!

    --should have posted anonymously--

  47. All I got was this lousy t-shirt by Graymalkin · · Score: 5, Informative

    Cool aspects: instead of needing a physical object to make a hologram you can now use a transparent LCD screen. You can also make your hologram any size you want because instead of a single exposed but if film the hologram is made from little 2"x2" tiles.

    Misleading aspects of the story: This is not Star Wars technology come to life. Neither Princess Leia nor Queen Amidala will be hovering in mid-air begging someone for help. There's no motion involved in these holograms unless successive tiles have an animated image. The only way you'll get animation of any sort is the same way you get it out of the baseball cards printed with the plastic ribbing. Each viewing angle gives you a different instance frame. These images do not hover in mid-air either, their focal point is behind the surface of the view window.

    The sort of volumetric projection in Star Wars is not possible without some super fancy technology to bend light rays once they hit a certain point in space. You need something for the photons to hit and change direction in, like glass. The people at Dimensional Media (www.3dmedia.com) have a system like this. They take a bunch of 2D slices and project them at high speed onto a piece of glass. Each of the 20 or so slices they use is a slightly different perspective on the 3D image. These are run through a beam splitter and projected onto a set of mirrors that projects onto a glass plate. The image seems to float behind the glass plate and as you move from side to side you're seeing one of the slightly different perspective slices. It is cool technology that might be getting somewhere because DMA has won a couple awards for their technology and got a research grant from somebody in January. I don't work for them or anything I've just run across lots of articles about them in the past 6 years and looked into their technology when I began to research building a home made volumetric projection system. While Zebra Imaging has a cool tech for static holograms I'm much more interested in realtime volumetric projection. My interest in holography lasted about as long as the power supply for my HeNe laser.

    --
    I'm a loner Dottie, a Rebel.
    1. Re:All I got was this lousy t-shirt by Conspir8or · · Score: 1

      >Queen Amidala will be hovering in mid-air begging someone for help.

      You've been reading my wish book again, sir.

    2. Re:All I got was this lousy t-shirt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The hologram also doesn't move. Combine that with the nude paparazzi pictures and you've got NAPNP!

    3. Re:All I got was this lousy t-shirt by Kirsten · · Score: 1

      ---These images do not hover in mid-air either, their focal point is behind the surface of the view window.

      It's been a few years since my high school optics class, but I believe that while reflection holograms (like the ones you see of baseball cards and stuff) are normally behind the surface, transmission holograms (Is that what they're using here?) can have the focal point be in front of the surface. Come to think of it, I swear I've seen reflection holograms (the nicer ones that you hang on the wall) that "popped out" of the surface as well.

      but at least you put your laser to a worthwhile use, I just use lasers to entertain my cat.

      -Kirsten

    4. Re:All I got was this lousy t-shirt by meldroc · · Score: 2
      The sort of volumetric projection in Star Wars is not possible without some super fancy technology to bend light rays once they hit a certain point in space. You need something for the photons to hit and change direction in, like glass.

      One way this could be made possible, using technology that isn't here yet, is what I'd call a "nanocloud display". When you turn the thing on, a vent opens and out comes zillons of tiny nanites, which look sort of like flying disco balls under the microscope. The nanites would each be able to fly, using tiny thrusters, propellers, fly wings, whatever. They would also be covered with lots of red, green and blue colored mirrors (or you could have separate red, green and blue colored nanites) which each have little servos on them that can adjust the mirrors' angles, or even hide the mirrors completely.

      When the unit is programed to display something, the nanites fly themselves into a 3-d grid formation, and adjust their mirrors so that a light that is shone on them reflects at a programmed angle. Voila, instant volumetric display, with views that change arbitrarity as the viewing angle changes (assuming enough nanites to cover all voxels from all potential angles.) Help me Obiwan Kenobi, you're my only hope! The problem is that a gust of wind may screw up your display, and scatter your precious nanites to the 4 winds.

      Of course, this requires technology that we don't have yet.

      --

      Meldroc, Waster of Electrons
    5. Re:All I got was this lousy t-shirt by Bnonn · · Score: 1
      This sounds like the data access "terminals" used in the recent Time Machine movie. They consisted of large slabs of glass attached to bases on the floor, and when you stood in front of them a friendly black AI fellow appeared, apparently completely real, except that if you walked around the slab he wasn't there. Similar thing?

      That was coo...

  48. I'm confused.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    This technology can be used to picture pr0n jokes?

  49. Re:And in case you missed it the first time around by gazbo · · Score: 1

    Hehe - aside from the initial shock, the best bit is the stunned silence at the end.

  50. Links, information... by Andorion · · Score: 1

    This has been in the works since December of 2000.

    Google-returned links to (hologram) images are Here and here.

    -Berj

  51. no pics? by leuk_he · · Score: 1

    Since it's a flat text article (no pics, no links to speak of

    The picture at the end contains a lot of info. sorry you missed it.

    next time it is required please create a mirror. or link to the google cache.

  52. modz on crack ? by Adolf+Hitroll · · Score: -1

    if this post had read "fucking star wars morons" it'd have been modded down as flamebait, but it has been modded down as troll.

    please, explain this...

    --
    Smile, don't click...
  53. How innovative is this? by Vought+28 · · Score: 1

    They have already used systems like CAD-CAM and other 3D modeling programs to do the same thing on a computer screen. Using the arrow keys you could rotate the image around, zoom in or out, and of course, modify it as you liked. The advantage of using a hologram is limited here. A better useage would be a holographic projection of a patients body in the hospital, allowing doctors to watch the effects of their work as they go along.

  54. A Tribute To The Greats (USian pie) by pwpbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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    1. Re:A Tribute To The Greats (USian pie) by pwpbot by chrispl · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Thanks for screwing up the page wrap dumbass!

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  55. It all makes sense now by DarkHelmet · · Score: 1

    FORD: F*cked Over, Rebuilt DeathStar... I get it... I finally get it!

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  56. Princess Lela? by chrispl · · Score: 1

    From further down in the artile:

    "Forget about Princess Lela and 3-D videoconferencing."

    Maye they were thinking of Leela from Futurama...

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  57. autopr0n? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Since Ford makes cars how about autopr0n? :-)

  58. video by Kraft · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here is a competitors site with video: litiholo gallery

    Should be possible to find more here

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  59. Vanilla Sky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    The holgram thingy in Vanilla Sky looked real. I thought it was actually available to the uber rich.

  60. Re:And in case you missed it the first time around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fantastic... I'm stunned! ...

  61. I have one! by MicroBerto · · Score: 2
    This is a funny coincidence -- In the new Star Wars Episode II cereal (Which is very good, by the way), the box looks quite normal with Obi-Wan on it.

    However, after turning off one of my lights, a large hologram was illuminated, and it looked spectacular!

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  62. My lame porn joke by twitter · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    3D and porn, why? Most porn lacks depth.

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  63. Yes, there is... by Size_Mick · · Score: 1

    There is a program that gives you a 3D desktop in windows. It's called "3DTop" and you can get it here:

    http://www.3dtop.com/

    There is also a 3D program to view websites with, allowing you to have walls of browsers in a VR room, called Buzz3d and you can find that here:

    http://www.buzz3d.com/

    I'd make these into links but since I can't use the [url] [/url] deal and make it work, and since the people who run slashdot don't seem to find it necessary to have any help on the subject of message formatting, or even a damned button to do it for you, I guess you'll just have to copy and paste.

  64. volumetric displays by TMB · · Score: 3, Informative

    For those interested in true volumetric displays, this is a nice overview of the current state.

    [TMB]

    1. Re:volumetric displays by kaustik · · Score: 1

      Remember that video game Time Traveler? This used a display just like this. About 5 or 6 years ago all the tech mags swore that each and every American family would watch their daily TV on one of these things by the year 2002 or so... where's mine?

  65. Uh, never mind by Size_Mick · · Score: 1

    I somehow missed reading the middle paragraph of your post and thought you were talking about the windows desktop. Anyhow, the programs are still neat and it seems like you do have some time on your hands, so check it out.

  66. Heh, heh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    heh, heh. Hey Butthead... He said `projection'. Heh, heh.

    Yah... heh, heh, heh, heh...

  67. For the Karma by The_Mighty_Squid · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Are Holograms Finally for Real?
    By: David H. Freedman
    Issue: July 2002

    This staple of sci-fi is starting to live up to its billing, and its potential in the workplace is anything but an illusion.

    In the months leading up to the debut of the new Ford Thunderbird last fall, the car's four-person design crew was asked to show its most recent tweaks to company executives. So it did what any auto-design team does: It hauled its latest prototype out to the center of a conference room for a group "walkaround." There, managers cooed over the slick coupe's rakish lines from every imaginable angle.

    But "prototype," in this case, might be the biggest understatement in automotive history. What the designers and executives were in fact viewing was a computer-generated hologram -- hovering slightly off the floor -- that not only rendered the T-bird in perfect 3-D but also provided different views as observers moved around it, as if it were really there.

    Such startlingly lifelike projections are so compelling a technology -- as we saw when R2-D2 emitted his "Help me, Obi-Wan" hologram of Princess Leia 25 years ago in the original Star Wars -- that it's difficult to imagine a future in which they're not ubiquitous. It's the present that's the problem. Until now, holograms have been little more than second-rate gimmicks, thanks to the fact that holographically creating anything more than small, washed-out images has proved exceedingly expensive and time-consuming. But that's about to change. Zebra Imaging, a six-year-old startup in Austin that created the Thunderbird holograms (as well as another for the P2000, one of Ford's experimental hydrogen-powered vehicles), is but one of several companies refining new techniques for producing life-size holograms on the fly, using both real and computer-generated images.

    In conventional holography, whose uses to date have been limited to things like novelty art and anticounterfeit decals on CD jewel cases, a laser beam is split in two, with one section shining directly at a large sheet of film and the other bouncing off the object in question before being rejoined with the first. On the film, the overlapping beams etch patterns that contain enough information to render the entire image as seen from different angles. When you look at the developed film, each of your eyes sees a slightly different view of the image, providing the flawless 3-D illusion, and walking or moving your head to the side offers a side view, exactly as it would if the object were real.

    Zebra's new technique is similar but uses a digital image in place of the physical object. Its computers convert a standard graphics file into a pattern displayed on a large, translucent LCD screen. A laser then fires three different-colored beams through the screen. When the beams converge and hit a special film that can be quickly developed with ultraviolet light and heat, the image emerges in startlingly realistic 3-D detail.

    Such breakthroughs portend a wide array of new business applications, at least if Zebra's ever-expanding client roster is any indication. Customers include Boeing (BA), Exxon (XOM), and Ford (F), not to mention the Bob Marley Museum in Kingston, Jamaica, which recently bought a life-size hologram of the legendary reggae king. Mark Holzbach, the company's co-founder and chief technical officer, ticks off a handful of projects already in the works: holograms for product design (à la the Thunderbird), oil and gas exploration (modeling rock layers and fissures a mile below ground), jetliner navigation (making mountains visible through clouds), and even advertising (festooning brochures, billboards, and store windows with eye-popping 3-D imagery).

    Alton Parrish, an analyst at technology consulting firm Business Communications in Norwalk, Conn., predicts that design applications alone will create a $100 million market for the sort of holograms Zebra can now produce, and that the overall market for high-quality holography will eventually approach $1 billion. "If the manufacturing design industry can get access to high-quality, fast holographic imaging," he says, "it's likely to adopt the technology." That's not as big an understatement as calling Zebra's T-bird a prototype, perhaps, but it's an understatement nonetheless.

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  68. photo of the hologram by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why didn't they put a photo of the hologram - or any hologram generated by this system - in the article? talk about underwhelming: for all we know it could look utterly shit and useless, and they've just hyped it up.

  69. And the answer to the question in the title is.. by Scooter · · Score: 1

    "No."

    The article is worthless - they wrote a page of words on the basis that some guys down at Ford are printing "holograms" (ie the decal type silver foil things) from CGI instead of images captured by bouncing light off real objects. Just what is their point? Exactly? Alternative titles for the article include:-

    "Man does exactly the same thing with holograms as usual"

    "No change on the holgram front"

    Or as Christopher Lloyd says in Star Trek III:-

    "Nothing happening here!, Kruge out!".

    Truly, this is not the article you are looking for - move along.

  70. Re:"Favorite past-time" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    "My favorite past-time was feeling my diapers with crap."
    Ick

  71. Possible walkaround... by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Several years ago I went to a store in Hong Kong that sold high-end holograms. I'm pretty sure I saw a tube-shaped film that you could walk completely around. These type of holograms can theoretically be made on any shape of film (flat, curved, tubular, etc.) The only problem is exposing the entire surface of the object to the two portions of the split laser beam.

    For what it's worth, I messed around with holograms in high school. My physics teacher (Tommy Toor, Lyman High School) let me take home the lab's hologram kit, including the laser! How cool is that! (This was 1984...they didn't have laser pointers back then, at least not cheap ones; this laser was about the size of an extra large box of tin foil.) Anyway, you could make two types of holograms: reflection and transmission.

    The reflection holograms were the low-quality types you see on credit cards and cd cases. They were pretty flat, but you could view them in ordinary light.

    The transmission holograms were much more dramatic. You had to view them through a piece of transparent film illuminated by laser from behind. The object would appear to be beyond the film, rather than on the surface. These are the types that you see in museums and some high-end stores (don't know if they've come up with a way to view them without the laser?) Most of us have seen how you can move from side to side and get a different view as if the object was really there, even to the extent of "unmasking" hidden contours as you move. But a little known fact is that you can cut up the film and each piece still contains the image. Think of covering up different parts of a window: you can still see an object placed outside, but you have to position yourself in a different place to see it. Same with a transmission hologram. If you cut the film in quarters and give them to your friends, they could each see the object. One would have to look down and to the left, one looks down and to the right, etc. Very cool.

    Anyway, the technology described in the article sounds like high-quality, quickly produced transmission holograms. Star Wars-style holograms will require some sort of 3-D medium as discussed above.

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    1. Re:Possible walkaround... by Kirsten · · Score: 1

      --don't know if they've come up with a way to view them without the laser?

      I messed around with holograms in high school (2 years ago) as well, although my teacher certainly didn't let me cart off any of his lasers! I recall making a (small and low quality) transmission hologram with a laser, but it could be viewed with just a bright white light (it might have been polarized though, can't remember) shining through it, so in answer to your question, yes.

      The really annoying part about this article, though, is it gives the impression that you can walk around the hologram and look at it from any angle, when you would actually only be able to see it if you could also see the film or screen it was being produced from. (unless there was fog or suspended particles or whatnot, as other people have already discussed. Thank goodness for /. where people don't automatically believe everything they read)

      -Kirsten

    2. Re:Possible walkaround... by trumpetplayer · · Score: 1

      I know nothing about holograms but, when I visited the Science Museum of London (please, do so if you ever come to the UK, it is a great visit: They have there huge machines capable of calculating second order differential equations mechanically and such stuff) I got really impressed with the optics part, showing PIECE of hologram where you could perfectly see the whole thing by choosing the correct angle. Really nice.

    3. Re:Possible walkaround... by Kirkoff · · Score: 2

      Was that Lyman High in Longwood?

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    4. Re:Possible walkaround... by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 1

      Yup. 1985. You?

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    5. Re:Possible walkaround... by Kirkoff · · Score: 2

      I attended in 1999-2000, but graduated in Michigan. Was Fred Finke a teacher when you were there? You can e-mail me at josh [at] [my slashdot user name] [dot] itgo [dot] com

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  72. Does this mean... by mikosullivan · · Score: 1

    ... that if I expose my computer to six holograms of Michael York's head the computer will explode?

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  73. has anyone seen it before? by chimpslice · · Score: 3, Interesting

    perhaps this is off-topic, but as a kid I used to visit my grandfather when he worked at RCA in Princeton, this was circa 1980. He'd take me around to all of his scientist buddies and show me the cool stuff they were working on. I remember big lasers (whoa), lots of weird laser-disc storage media, primitive green pixel-ly flat televisions, and they also had a short holgraphic film loop. It was tiny, maybe six inches tall, and it was a silvery image of guys playing football that could be viewed from several angles. I hadn't heard of anybody whipping them out again until now. Having been 9 at the time I had no idea how it worked. This was the last thing I'd witnessed as a child that I hadn't yet seen as an adult.

    1. Re:has anyone seen it before? by holozebra · · Score: 1

      I saw a holographic film like this in Japan in the mid 1980's. I think it was out of the NTT research lab, and it was a sequence of stop-frame animation holograms of a little figure. It kind of reminded me of the old-style penny arcade flip-book movies. Only one person at a time could view this comfortably.

  74. stereolithography. by eshefer · · Score: 2

    This is pretty cool, but the real breakthrough in product design technology is stereolithography. A way of making real object by using layered exposure of photopolimers to laser light, extreemly cool and (now) pretty expensive. It allows to make true to life models extreemly fast.

    there is some info here - a commercial site.

    1. Re:stereolithography. by func · · Score: 1

      Fast, and expensive. I've done models that were less than 2 inches across that cost $500 usd each. It's good for testing out a plastic design before you commit to a $30,000 steel mold, but not much use for exploring design options. Unless you've got bags of cash, or an SLA machine in your back room. :)

    2. Re:stereolithography. by eshefer · · Score: 2

      agreed. This is why I said "now" expensive..

      The price will go down, eventualy. both becoase there will be more machines in the market and there will be compettive forces between modeling companies, and the price of the polymers will eventually go down too.

      Most of the big companies alwredy have SLA machines (I know Apple has at least one machine, for example) eventually they will by the new and impruved versions and sell the used ones.. Etc..

      Prices will go down, and when the price of a model will go bellow 100$ per shot it will becomes the best system to make models. I'm thinking this is likely to happen in two to four years. (just when I finish my ID studdies.. :-)

      Or again. Might be just wishfull thinking... :-)

  75. I will pay to see it! by MrJones · · Score: 0

    How long should be wait until we can see one of this in a show or Disney park?
    I will pay to be in front of one of this babies

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  76. pr0n by Jacer · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    it's just an enhanced version of the dvd's multiangle...but with all in ugly blue

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  77. why is this better that a VR cave? by foobar104 · · Score: 2

    Okay, I admit I haven't read the article. (Whaddya expect? I just rolled out of bed a few minutes ago, and I'm only surfing Slashdot right now to avoid going to work.)

    Nevertheless, I'm having a hard time understanding why this kind of hologram would be more useful than, say, a VR wall or room? I've seen some of SGI's demos of 3D visualization technology using Onyxes or Octanes, projectors, and stereo glasses. Granted, those images aren't truly volumetric, so you can't put your finger into them or anything... but the same is true of these holograms we're talking about. They only appear to be volumetric.

    And a VR environment like that has the benefit of being in full color, with full interactive animation and whatnot. You can use the wireless mouse thingy to "grab" the model and rotate it on any axis, with frame rates from 120 all the way down to a few per second, depending on the complexity and the oomph behind your computer system. Sounds a lot cooler and more useful than a static hologram image to me.

    I dunno. I guess I'm just not as dazzled by the word "hologram" as I was when I was seven. ;-)

  78. Factual note by djarb · · Score: 1

    According to Zebra Imaging's web site, the images do appear in front of the film, hovering in mid air.

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  79. obligatory pr0n joke by gatekeep · · Score: 1

    "Hump me Obi Wan, you're my only hope!"

  80. old arcade game? by 3DKnight · · Score: 1

    what was that old arcade game that was under a bubble and looked 3D? Can't remember the name of it, but you were a cowboy traveling though time... look pretty good to me, but might just be the nastalga :p

    1. Re:old arcade game? by benjamindees · · Score: 1
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  81. Nice try. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But go and do your assignment in a honest way, ok?

  82. Parabolic mirrors by crimson30 · · Score: 0

    Hasn't anyone seen a parabolic mirror illusion before? It's probably decades old tech and still more effective...

    http://www.exploratorium.edu/snacks/touch_the_sp ri ng.html

  83. XPLANE by salmo · · Score: 2

    I don't know if anyone else noticed but the company who did the little image explaining how it worked was called XPLANE.

    Now in the spirit of capitalism (not allowing this XPLANE company get a monopoly on cheezy diagrams) and the tradition of Riki Ricardo of "I Love Lucy", I propose its time some of us get together and start our own company named SPLANE. Our motto could be that "We got some SPLANE'n to do" or maybe just "Bobaloo".

    1. Re:XPLANE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > ... I propose its time some of us get together and start our own company named SPLANE.

      SPLANE? Just call it gPLANE.

  84. Re:And in case you missed it the first time around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Truly a classic. Thanks for the early morning Wednesday laugh... And yes, the stunned silence at the end is worth the time of the download

  85. hypercubes by smartfart · · Score: 1
    There was a guy out in California by the name of Quintus Teal that was into building so-called "hypercubes". He was a real estate developer, and constructed tesseracts for people to live in.

    A karma point to whoever can name the story I am referring to :-)

    1. Re:hypercubes by Mystical · · Score: 1

      Isn't it "And He Built a Crooked House" by Robert A. Heinlein

    2. Re:hypercubes by Guru2Newbie · · Score: 0
      That was Robert A. Heinlein's And He Built a Crooked House published in Astounding Science Fiction Magazine, 1940.

      A guy unknowingly bought a tesseract house, which actually had more room inside than the external dimensions of the house.

      The only problem was when an earthquake collapsed the house while he was in it, making it difficult to get out: he jumped out the living room window, only to find himself falling into the bedroom!

    3. Re:hypercubes by smartfart · · Score: 1
      Oll Korrect.

      Also today on slashdot is something about mobius strips, and there was a story (I don't remember the name of it, *sigh*) about a new subway link that had a mobius twist, and a car got lost for like a week. The car could could be heard on the tracks, but not seen. Finally it showed up again, and they afterward closed that section of track permanently.

      Watch out for the karma fairy, he's coming your way as promised, in a week or two, I'll wager :-)

  86. Looks like Goatse from f*cked company guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Goatse gay porn link.
    Nice way of expanding the link out so you don't see it in the bar.

  87. GM's approach by M-G · · Score: 2

    Information Week recently ran a piece on the major IT transition at General Motors. While not using this kind of hologram technology, they are making good use of projected 3-D models combined with VR headsets.

    Here's a little more detail on the system and how to use it to frighten children. (And no, it doesn't involve 3-D displays of Pontiac Azteks....) If you read this article, note the slip of the car name...the article says it's "Solaris", when it it's actually "Solstice"

  88. Re:And the answer to the question in the title is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah. It sure would be nice if a new physical property of the universe was discovered that allowed us to somehow bend light in mid-air, without using a physical surface.

  89. Just use HTML by sketerpot · · Score: 1
    To make links, just use normal HTML tags, like this:
    <a href="http://www.yoururl.com/whatever/">Click on this link</a>

    This code gets you this: Click on this link

    You can also use other HTML formatting tags in your posts.

  90. Oops, I forgot my camera! by cbillett · · Score: 1

    What? Is this technology so advanced that no one knows if they should orient their camera vertically or horizontally? Why won't anyone take a fucking picture of this wonderful crap? Yes, I know a picture is 2-D. I want to see many pictures, from different angles, that demonstrate how the image is projected from different view points. I'm surprised 50% of the comments aren't flames directed at Ford for the use of vaporware propaganda. Call me Joshua.

    1. Re:Oops, I forgot my camera! by holozebra · · Score: 1

      There are videos and stills of people and holograms in the gallery section of the www.zebraimaging.com website. This isn't vaporware. The printed article in July issue of "Business 2.0" magazine, available now on the newstands, has two photos of me (Mark Holzbach) in front of a lifesize Bob Marley hologram taken from two distinctly different angles. Unfortunately, the web version of the article omitted the photos.

  91. Naah... it takes two eyes to see in 3d by Spy4MS · · Score: 1

    and she only has one

  92. Gaming and Entertainment by Fender21 · · Score: 1

    I invested in a company called Entertainment Arts after they announced just recently that they are in a partneship to use holography technology for gaming and entertainment. I think this is a viable product for the future but I have little understanding of where the industry is at right now. The company they are partnered with is called ATL corporation?

    Here's a clip from ETAI 's press release on ATL:
    ATL's proprietary holographic technology projects live, real-time, full color, 3-D images out from the display unit into a region of space between the observer and the unit. The image moves in an empty space to the unit and can be viewed by any number of people. A high resolution image can be projected in reduced scale onto a table/desktop or life-sized onto a stage. The image source can be computer-generated animations, 3-D scans of real objects or live and/or produced video feed of actual people and events.

    Anyone have any more information on any of this?

    Zebra imaging looks very impressive!

    Thanks!

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    1. Re:Gaming and Entertainment by holozebra · · Score: 1

      I hadn't heard of ATL, but many companies have made very liberal use of the term "holographic" and "hologram" in the past. I suspect there is nothing truly holographic in ATL's technology - perhaps it is a lenticular or a stereoscopic display of some kind. I'll look into this some more out of curiosity. Thanks for the compliment to my company!

    2. Re:Gaming and Entertainment by Fender21 · · Score: 1

      Long live Austin companies... or what's left of them. If you have any openings, I'd be glad to move back to Austin!

      Good luck and keep up the good work.

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  93. And the Fifth Dimension... by Guru2Newbie · · Score: 0

    ...is a musical group that sang The Age of Aquarius!

  94. INVALID - POPUP LINKS in previous post! INVASIVE! by arthurh3535 · · Score: 1

    Gah. I'm at work, you dink. That sort of crap can get me canned! Do you know how hard it is to get a job these days?

    Grrr.

    Arthur Hansen

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  95. BMW has been doing this for years by brundlefly · · Score: 1

    BMW has been doing this for years. Nothing new here.

    1. Re:BMW has been doing this for years by holozebra · · Score: 1

      I think you are mistaken. You may be confusing this technology with something else - CAVEs or stereoscopic technology perhaps. Or maybe more traditional holograms that are smaller and are not full color or full parallax.

  96. Harrison by OpMindFck · · Score: 1

    why did I think they were talking about Han Solo having a system to look at car prototypes. And why should he need a car anyways, he's got a perfectly good YT-1300 Light Freighter.

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  97. This is good technology... by cr0sh · · Score: 2
    People here who are "bashing" this don't seem to understand why this technology is being used.

    VR systems (both immersive HMD systems as well as "CAVE" type displays) are good for "walkthroughs", "walkarounds", even "testing" (such as for ergonomic placement of controls, or viewing angles from seats, etc) - but neither technology (as of yet) allows for "real size" views.

    Most VR systems do NOT represent the objects in a one-to-one unit basis - most of the time the virtual world is scaled or distorted in some manner. This is normally because of the viewing system used - with an HMD, if the objects were represented at real scale and perspective, things would look slightly odd (especially in the higher-res, low FOV HMDs). CAVEs tend to distort things as well to fit the projection screens and minimize the distortions at the wall joining edges. Lower-res, high FOV HMDs can't be used, because resolution is lost, and thus accuracy for measurement. HMDs do not allow for real rulers, only virtual ones. CAVEs allow for real rulers, but if the image is slightly distorted, it is useless for engineers. Another thing against HMDs and CAVEs is "simulator sickness"...

    I am not saying that either technology is completely useless - there are aspects that make both appealing for engineering use, but prototype display for design reconfiguration probably isn't one of them. I also think that the accuracy could be preserved, but it would be expensive. I think at some point the tech will come down in price to allow this.

    However, this hologram technology allows for the fast "duplication" of a CAD/CAM drawing (which may or may not be represented in real size on a monitor) into a medium that allows the engineers (and non-engineers!) to view at real size, as well as (possibly) take real size measurements using real measuring equipment. The hologram in this case is a real size volumetric image of a virtual design. It is probably the fastest method of rapid prototyping for large scale objects that we will have for a while.

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  98. Nothing to look forward to by binarybum · · Score: 1
    It should be obvious that good hologram technology is a long way off. According to Minority Report, in the year 2054 hologram technology still pretty much blows, and even as far in the future as the star wars era, the hologram technology will be blurry and intermittent.

    It seems that our obsession for progressive technology is vested more in transportation than in novel media.

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    1. Re:Nothing to look forward to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, no, no. Didn't you read the opening screen? Star Wars happened a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... That's why the holo technology sucked.

  99. Cool, but more limited than implied by RockyJSquirel · · Score: 1

    A few points.
    1. you can't walk around a reflection hologram.
    2. the viewing angles of reflection holograms are a little limited and since the color of an image (and it's position, slightly) will vary with the angle between the light source and the viewer, you need a point light source.
    3. The image is harder to make than the drawing implied, they no doubt had to have apparatus that physically scanned the image source (and possibley light source) over the film to print on it.

    Rocky J. Squirrel

  100. Re:Possible walkaround = Logans Run by ashitaka · · Score: 2

    Sounds like what they used in Logan's Run

    The images moved too.

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  101. Computer-generated holograms by Mr2001 · · Score: 1

    Not true, for a number of years there have been techniques for creating entirely computer generated holograms. The biggest problem so far is getting a printer with a high enough resolution to do this directly.

    How does 1000 dpi, full color sound?

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  102. Re:And the answer to the question in the title is. by holozebra · · Score: 1

    Zebra holograms are not "decal type silver foil" holograms. They are full color, full parallax, reflection holograms recorded on DuPont photopolymer (not embossed). These images appear very solid and real, they can float in front if the image plane, and appear especially realistic when made from ray-traced computer graphics.

  103. CAVE not a hologram by epepke · · Score: 2

    It's two or three back-projection walls and a front-projection floor with alternate frame 3-D synchronizing with a pair of tracked LCD flip glasses. Very clever math for getting the projections right and a very convincing display (especially if you're the one wearing the tracker), but not a hologram.

    It is cool, though. I've written code for it.

  104. Horizontal or vertical parallax? by epepke · · Score: 2

    Holograms called "integrals" have been possible for decades. (They are featured in the 70's cheesoid flick Logan's Run) They are traditionally made from motion picture film, with the subject on a rotating platform. Each frame of film produces a single vertical strip hologram. These integrals produce horizontal parallax, but no vertical.

    So, is this just a cheaper way to make bigger integrals, or have they solved the knotty problem of getting vertical parallax as well? If the former, OK, but yawn. If the latter, that's pretty impressive. It's conceivably possible to do, but I can't find anything in the article that makes it clear.

  105. Learn To Make Holograms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This website, LearnHolography.com has some great information for anyone wanting to learn about making holograms simply and safely with a diode laser.

  106. Janitors by NaveWeiss · · Score: 1

    I'd love to have sex with the janitor here. Shhh... I hope she's not listening. :)

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