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scatboy writes "Tex9 has software for using an iPod (yes, another iPod story) on Linux. It uses a graphical drag-and-drop interface through xtunes, their version of iTunes on Linux. They are looking for beta testers of the xpod software now.
I have a dual boot box that has only gone into Windows lately to load my iPod with the betas of XPlay. I held out on making the final purchase of XPlay due to rumours of Apple coming out with their own Windows software at MacWorld New York. This is an even better reason to wait. I am very excited about a chance to measure uptime in months again!"
w00t.
-- You are such a fucking fag
But I'm still waiting for the iPod for Game Boy Advance hacks!!
Karen whimpered as she looked up at the filthy barbarian who swaggered before her father's throne. Her late father's throne. She was nud before he and his snickering men, a shocking and humiliating experience for her, for her life had been quite isolated to that point in time. Next to her was her sister - Stacie - like her, big breasted and naked, kneeling in terror, arms bound tightly back at the elbows by strong chain.
The blacksmith came in, and she and Stacie were bent across his block, screaming as heavy collars were placed around their throats. The man hammered the thick bolts into the collar, then used a white hot iron to sodder them firmly in place. The collar would not be removed now, not without another blacksmith.
One of the guardsmen raised her wrists high into the air, bending her over a table, and the ropes around her arms were cut. Thick iron manacles were hammered and welded into place, first around her wrists, then up higher, around her arms just below the elbows. The same was done to Stacie, and then they were knelt on either side of the throne as the conqueror took his place.
As a final act of indignity, her small tiara was placed on her head, and Stacie's on hers as the doors were open and the frightened surviving members of the her father's court were ushered into the room. Her eyes dropped in shame and mortification until the chain bound to her collar yanked her head up and back.
The courtiers stared in fear at the man sitting on the throne, then at the two princesses kneeling naked on either side.
Karen felt the same dig deep into her vitals, felt a sense of humiliation which almost made her vomit - though she had not eaten in more than a day.
"Here are your princesses!" he shouted. "You can see I have kept my promise and they are in excellent health."
His men laughed uproariously, and new shame flooded Karen.
"Now you will see that they too have sworn their loyalty to me. Why, so loyal are they, so eager to make up for the offense caused me by their family, that they have dedicated their lives and their bodies to pleasing me and my men."
There were more howls of laughter from his soldiers, while the crowd shuffled fearfully. Some were frightened, but others were casting sly eyes on the white faced girls kneeling on either side of the throne, recalculating how best they could profit by flattering those now in command.
Karen recognized many of the faces, faces which had long smiled upon her, lips which had flattered her and sought her favour. Young men who had sought liaisons in hopes of stealing a brief kiss, older men who had helped educate her on the ways and dangers of the court. There was Sir Morton, whom she had called Uncle Morton, though he was no relation, and Lord Conway, with his daughter Sarah, who had been one of her best friends through her youth.
"They will demonstrate that loyalty for you now," the man crowed.
With a yank on the chain attached to her collar Stacie's head was pulled into his groin and Karen cringed in horror as the man drew aside his codpiece and took out a thick, purple haded erection. She saw Stacie wriggle desperately, then another yank from the chain and suddenly her lips were around the monstrous thing.
Then her own chain was yanked and she too was drawn around to the front of the throne, her face pulled into the man's groin.
"Suck on my balls," he roared.
She shuddered in humiliation, for her bottom was now pointed at the court, and bent over as their view of her private parts was unhindered. Yet as the man's finger tore at her hair the pain flayed her and the terror forced her lips down around his testicles even as her sister sucked and slurped on his shaft. The big man chuckled as he looked over their heads a the court, and shame made her want to die.
He tore Stacie's lips up and forced her mouth down on his cockshaft. She sucked, bobbing her head up and down, tears spilling from her eyes as his foul cock slid across her tongue. Beside her, Stacie leaned in, closing her lips around his testicles.
They traded places again, as his men shouted obscene comments on their bottoms and privates, then he hurled them back, chuckling. She groaned as she saw him drop to his knees, saw him twist Stacie onto her knees, pushing down so her face was against the floor and her bottom raised. Then his thick cock thrust into her from behind and Stacie cried out, her cry lost in the cheers of his men.
Horrified, Karen watched the big man rut into her sister, watched his cock pounding violently into her small slit while the entire hall looked on. And then it was her turn, and she felt dazed as she was taken, right there before the court. Her body was pummelled by his heavy hips, and she grunted and gasped in pain as she felt his thick organ slicing back and forth inside her.
She was lifted up by the hair, screaming as she was thrown on her back on one of the tables. Then Stacie was beside her, an the beer flowed freely as the crowd surged around them. She stared up in horror at a dozen faces leering down at them, and cried out as the first man thrust his cock deep into her belly.
They laughed and jeered at her, hands reaching around him to squeeze and slap at her breasts and pinch her nipples. Beside her, Stacie was getting the same, as one man after another hammered his groin into their bodies and spilled his seed within their wombs.
First it was only his officers, then his soldiers, but then came the formerly loyal members of her father's court eager to demonstrate their loyalty to the new order. She sobbed as she saw familiar faces leering down at her, groaned as they raped her. Even Uncle Morton, sneering down at her, squeezing her breast together and calling her a whore and a big teated cow as he rammed his hips into her bottom and pistoned his cock within her aching sex.
"Whores!" the conqueror shouted, laughing.
They dragged her off the table and onto a bench, and her arms screamed as she was bent back across it. A fist gripped her hair and forced it down as rough hands pried her thighs apart. A cock rammed into her sex even as another thrust into her open mouth. She gurgled and tried to twist away, but rough fingers closed around her throat even as the cock thrust deeper. She gagged and tried to scream, but the cock lurched even deeper, thrusting into her throat.
The raping continued on into the night as the sounds of celebration and laughter echoed through the hall. When they were done she was dragged along the floor and hung by her ankles, the drunken crowd gathering around with eager eyes as a man with a whip stood before her. She shrieked in agony as the whip cut down across her sex again and again, then howled as it sliced sideways across her belly and breasts.
Why are all Macintosh users such feeble-minded homosexual poop-chute pounders? I mean, not one of them is smart enough to use a condom when they're going down on each other. And now they want us heterosexual Linux users to take them _seriously_??? I mean, "you cannot be serious" (John Mac-Enroe).
And another thing, is there anything more pathetic than a Fag-intosh user trying to convince his tiny little knob to stand up at attention when a nice, buxom beauty walks by, so the other guys in his gym class won't beat the living snot out of him because he's a fag?
The answer is no.
this would be really cool. now i know where to spend my first paycheck from my new job!
Why the heck didn't Apple come out with a Windows version in the first place? They have arguably the best MP3 player in the industry - imagine how many people would have bought one if it had come supporting Windows from the outset.
People aren't gonna buy an iMac just for an iPod. But if they buy an iPod for Windows and LOVE it, they might be better inclined to buy Apple computers in the future. Seems to me Apple went about this the wrong way...
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President Bush said he was "deeply concerned" about some of the accounting practices in corporate America and called "outrageous" the disclosure that WorldCom, which is $32 billion in debt, had hidden $3.8 billion in expenses.
The president added, "We will fully investigate and hold people accountable for misleading not only shareholders but also employees."
The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) filed fraud charges against the nation's No. 2 long-distance telephone company, as the company slid toward bankruptcy. WorldCom is being called the biggest case of crooked accounting in U.S. history, where it hid nearly $4 billion worth of expenses from investors in order to make its bottom line look good. But is WorldCom really America's biggest case of accounting gimmickery and deception? I don't think so.
Ask the president or any congressman: How much debt does the federal government owe? Nine will get you 10 that they'll tell you that it's $3.5 trillion. If they had just a tad of sophistication or honesty, they might add intragovernmental debt that'd bring the "total debt" to slightly more than $6 trillion. Even that figure represents a level of creative accounting, deception and lies that make the actions of Enron and WorldCom seem like child's play.
Washington's deception about federal debt can be found in a report by Andrew J. Rettenmaier, a senior fellow at the Dallas-based National Center for Policy Analysis, titled, "How Big Is the Government's Debt?" Rettenmaier says that, as of 2001, the accumulated federal obligations to all people who've earned Social Security and Medicare benefits are $12.9 trillion for Social Security and $16.9 trillion for Medicare. Combined with the public and intragovernmental debt, the total federal debt burden is an unimaginable $35 trillion. That amounts to roughly $120,000 for every man, woman and child in America.
It will be impossible for the government to pay that kind of debt. Washington will do what all governments do when it cannot make good on its debt. Congress will repudiate agreements with creditors by refusing to pay on agreed-upon terms or choose government's traditional method of repudiation -- inflating the currency.
There's no question that both Enron and WorldCom engaged in deceptive and dishonest practices -- in a word, fraud. Here on Earth, there'll never be the end to deceptive and dishonest practices, notwithstanding supposed protection by the SEC. We're going have to wait until we get to heaven for total honesty. But let's compare what happens when deceptive accounting practices are discovered in private industry versus when they're discovered in government.
Without the SEC, the supposed guarantor against corporate hanky-panky, lifting one finger, the market has exacted high penalties. Enron and WorldCom shares of stock and their reputations are virtually worthless. Heads have rolled.
By contrast, what happens when Congress cooks the books and deceives Americans into believing that government debt is $3.5 trillion or $6 trillion, when it's really $35 trillion? Absolutely nothing.
I bet that if you brought this up to one of our Slashdot moderators, he'd say: "That Anonymous Coward guy is -1, Offtopic. What we owe to Social Security and Medicare recipients is not debt."
Of course, Enron and WorldCom might get out of their troubles by redefining what debt is as well -- but the economic arena, unlike the political arena, doesn't play that game.
I think xtunes is really too similar to iTunes. The deveopers should change the name to somethin else before Apple lawers get after them ... ...).
Does the beast runs on linux PPC ?
This is one thing that bugs me in the inux world , the lack of support for non IA-32 architectures.
Apple used to be more linux friendly (but that was way before they purchased NeXT and got a "modern" unix, do not read A/UX here
On the same scale of things is there any effort to bring a quiktime player for linux ? would people use such software ?
none Yet.
But it is lame!
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Personally, I think this is a vindication of Apple's strategy to keep the iPod Apple-only for a time. It kept demand to a reasonable level, allowed them to focus on Apple-only hardware, sold a lot more Macs, and in the long-term will not keep anyone out of the iPod Revolution.
Will they send me an iPod? woo-hoo!
I'd want winamp on it.
to FP *and well as* suck of Taco? i'd think Taco's dick in your mouth would get in the way of doing any sort of posting.
...is 'scatboy'?
Man, I don't wanna know where that came from.
This is really cool tech, a really cool program, and good for linux.
But i couldn't help but notice: did you see the little thumbnail screenshot? It appears that they are attempting to directly copy the iTunes interface, right down to the positioning of widgets and aqua+brushed_metal skin.
STUPID. Apple has made it very, very clear that they consider the skins/themes to their programs "trade dressing", and that if you sell a product with the same interface and textures as one of theirs, they WILL send lawyers after you. Notice that anyone who tries to make a theme explicitly described as "aqua lookalike" gets a letter from Apple Legal. No matter whether you believe apple has the legal right to do this, you have to at least acknowledge *they do this*, and it really isn't worth the bother of risking having to deal with apple legal. Just make something DIFFERENT, and then this won't be a problem. It's just a matter of saneness and safety.
I will agree that trying to copyright "look and feel" is bullshit, but look. Skins are images. You can copyright images. There is no reason to pretend that a skin/theme to an mp3 player is not a copyright violation just because, well, the textures may look exactly the same as they do in the interface you're knocking off, but hey, they aren't EXACTLY the same images! Um, no.
You can also copyright layouts, like in graphics & design, leading me to think that if you create a program where every button, text field, and interface widget is in exactly the same place as in iTunes, and you got hauled into court over this, you WOULD lose.
What is so hard about just HUMORING APPLE and DESIGNING YOUR OWN INTERFACES AND GUI SKINS? You just look stupid when you clumsily copy someone else's interface vertabrim. Yes, i get the idea is to be all like "look, you can do things on linux just the same as on mac!", but what it actually COMES ACROSS AS is "look, i am too uncreative or incompetent to design a user interface, so i just ripped off Apple's wholesale!"
"suck of Taco"? Surely you mean "suck off Taco", and even then the grammar would be terrible. Therefore, I claim you as my tubby black man-servant. I'm Morris Day and you're Jerome, bitch. Don't you forget it.
Roadkill is yummy.
Someday you will wake up and find that all the time you have spent throwing mentally-deficient, socially-lacking, functionally-hollow, pointless, self-detracting, stupid (look it up, "stupid" is not the same as "dumb") comments has brought you that much closer to the cadaverous wretch that you have become, devoid of joy, imbittered against the world by your own misguided prejudice.
Perhaps you will never reach this state. In a moment of clarity, an otherwise unafflicted person will mercifully force your car off a bridge, and you will die, never having known how pathetic you seem to be at this moment.
since it is difficult to type with a CLIT'er on my dick. damn, you guys sure can suck some mean ass AC cockage. my hat goes off to you.
Apple won't like that. They already strong armed mediafour out of using that name for Xplay.
It is cowardly, and a betrayal of whatever it means to be a Jew, to act as a white man
-James Baldwin
Of course, XPlay was originally named Xpod, before Apple put the beat down. Better get ready for some nastygrams from Apple!
Arh, youcan niw use xtunes, and sync, using a graphical drag and drop with the thing od f linux?
HOLY COW!
What is this obsession with uptime? It almost sounds like innuendo! It seems it's the geek version of my car is bigger than your car, and we all know what that's really about. Give it a rest: turn your computer off at the end of the day and be nice to the environment,
Fucky, please resume the FP responsibilities for me while I'm gone.
-- You are such a fucking fag
that's a google cache allright, but it redirects you to a disgusting web site. Thanks a lot, "moderators". Good thing there's nobody at work today, or I'd be fired for being a sicko.
so give it up you twinks!
What is it with you people and uptime? Is this just another way of comparing penis size? (My uptime is longer than your uptime, etc)
Grow up! It won't kill you to reboot once in a while!
Reality has a liberal bias
Seriously, just buy a Mac. You know you want to. You'll feel better in the morning. You know you will.
Wasn't that the old name for XPlay (another iPod utility), which was changed at the request of Apple?
See here ("Apple muscles Mediafour into dropping "XPod" name for Win-enabling software for iPod").
I don't think they'll be able to use that name for very long.
Why buy a Mac just to use your iPod? Not that it is any good for much else. You'll feel pretty bad in the morning, knowing you'd rather integrate that iPod into your much more useful Linux system that you already have.
Why the heck didn't Apple come out with a Windows version in the first place? They have arguably the best MP3 player in the industry
Because in less than a year, Apple's seen the iPod become so successful that Windows and Linux developers are creating their own solutions--some of them complete with FireWire cards--to do Apple's job *for* them.
Besides, fully half the reason the iPod is as big a hit with Mac users as it is is the integration with iTunes: create your MP3 playlists, organize your collection, and it will be automatically synchronized with your iPod when you request it. iTunes isn't just Apple's MP3 jukebox, its their "driver" software for iTunes. Creating a marketable Windows/Linux solution would require them to achieve the same level of integration with one or all of those platforms' MP3 packages. Why take the time to do that, when someone else is clearly willing to do the job for them?
Personally, and somewhat pettily, I think Windows users deserve to know how it feels to have a peripheral with no built-in support for their platform for a change. For years, Mac users have had to spend extra money to read files, access networks, sync PDAs, download digital photos, scan from scanners, and print to printers designed for the other 95% of the computing world. I'm reasonably certain there's not a single other MP3 portable on the market that sports full Mac OS synchronization. If Windows users have to wait a little while to use a gadget Apple designed that they want, then I consider that poetic justice.
Sorry if you got redirected or the link was temporarily hijacked. It was xTunes for me back then and it is xTunes for me now. Below is a pasted excerpt of the text, in case this problem happens again:
xtunes
xtunes is a comprehensive digital music system. It supports ripping CDs, burning CDs, playing digital music (MP3 and Ogg Vorbis), and organizing digital music in a library with playlists.
Features:
* xtunes maintains a library of all the digital music files it knows about. Music files get into the library by either ripping cds or importing existing files.
* xtunes supports the standard playback methods including loop and random to play any song in the library. The user can create unlimited playlists of any length to specify the playback of their music. xtunes can play any audio cd.
* xtunes can rip any audio cd into any supported digital music format. It uses cddb to look up information about the cd. A playlist is automatically created for the cd and all the songs are organized into the library.
* Creating an audio cd using xtunes is a piece of cake. Simply select a playlist and click the burn button and xtunes handles all the rest: decoding the songs in the playlist to wav files, spawning cdrecord to create the cd.
* xtunes is built with an extensible plugin framework, similar to xmms or the gimp. Plugins are used for decoding, encoding, song information, and output. This allows xtunes to support ripping/playing/burning multiple digital music formats.
* xtunes now supports the Apple iPod. Simply drag songs or playlists onto the iPod icon and they are automatically transferred to the iPod. See the xpod page for more information.
Their xTunes software looks like a feature-for-feature clone of iTunes. I read somewhere that apple asked MediaFour no to name their software "xpod" ...
In other words, I can see Apple attacking this company, Tex9, for tradmark infringment, as is their way...
I see that xTunes is GPLed, and that xPod is a pluggin...it doesn't seem to be GPLed currently...Tex9 may end up making it proprietary or something...
Want to use your iPod under Linux? Why not contirbute the the HFS+ project (http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-hfsplus/)?
Currently the diver is read-only.
Because the ipod was never really an option for me. Most people were relieved that there was a Windows product released to transfer tunes. That still did not help me. So now this will become a viable option now that it will run on an OS (linux) that I have in my house. Having a partition for Windows is kinda like a recovering alcoholic keeping a 12 pack in his fridge...
(+1 Funny) only if I laugh out loud.
Desiring an iPod, I went out and bought OsX for my virtually-unused iMac. I had a version of Os 9.something that was a bit too old.
I haven't regretted either purchase in the least - they are both top-quality products.
Now I'm looking seriously at their servers...
Cheers,
Jim in Tokyo
-- My Weblog.
Apple's seen the iPod become so successful that Windows and Linux developers are creating their own solutions--some of them complete with FireWire cards--to do Apple's job *for* them.
At least this time, Apple isn't frivolously wielding the DMCA against the makers of such software; the company has only requested that third-party software publishers not infringe Apple trademarks. Thus, "XPod" becomes "XPlay", but big whoop; development and sales continue.
Will I retire or break 10K?
Nothing personal, I just felt like paraphrasing that great freedom fighter who said it.
Look sonny, when I need to work I want to leave my computer running for 2 or 3 days without having to close all my apps and find where I was last time I was working and without waiting for the machine to come back from its nth ( n>>>>1 ) crash.
Specialy now with broadband connection to the internet, the computer can do many things during the night or while I am at work. For that to happen the underlying OS has to be stable.
In my office I have to reboot my Winblows machine 2 or 3 times per week because it just gets confussed when running more than one or two things (MS things, mind you).
Similar apps in Linux can run for weeks without any problem.
Did ya get it now?
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
...Don't get me wrong. This is really great that there will be full iPod support for linux, as well as Windows, but why oh why does it seem that both camps need to *copy* a great device and it's great software, rather than coming up with something completely new and usable of their own. MS has done nothing new and innovative with a UI in... well... ever. And the open desktops, both Gnome and KDE, are just trying to be as Windows-like as possible. They're mimicking a piece of shite. So here come the guys at Apple, rethinking things for the first time. You'd think others would follow suit and try to come up with new ideas, but instead what we see is, "Hey! Apple's doing some great stuff here! Let's copy that, too!" But who am I to talk, I live in a glass house...
How are you going to keep them down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus?
When it first came out the HD was the same price as the iPod, but as far as I can tell the Toshiba hard drive has dropped in price yet the iPod hasn't.
I wouldn't expect the iPod's price to drop at the same rate but at least something. Otherwise the markup on the product is increasing all the time and the later you leave it, the more you're essentially being ripped off.
I'll readily admit that I don't have the facts to hand but if this is the case, then it might be better to get an Archos Jukebox and put up with the lack of functionality (but gain on massive savings).
Or wait for the Toshiba Gigabeat.
(Again, I could be wrong, so please correct me)
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But I'm still waiting for the iPod for Game Boy Advance hacks!!
Are you talking about a GBA to IEEE 1394 adapter to read games from the iPod's hard drive? That would be possible in theory, but you wouldn't be able to run any of the commercial games because they require a 120 ns access time to ROM, which rotating-media hard drives cannot provide. Without mass production (which would draw nastygrams from NOA), it'd be darn expensive to 1. license the patents on IEEE 1394, and 2. provide 32 MB of RAM to hold the ROM image during play, plus an interface to that RAM. However, it would be easy to make an interface that just supports loading and saving data, for which the community could write special games. The GBA development mailing list had a discussion a few weeks back about the feasibility of a CD-ROM drive for GBA; search archives for "Disc System".
Will I retire or break 10K?
But i've yet to run across a piece of linux software that i couldn't get to work under OS X eventually.
What about proprietary application software for Linux that is provided only as a binary for Intel x86 architecture? What if your boss asks you to use it (the software) or lose it (your job, which is very precious in this depression)?
Will I retire or break 10K?
So what is so surprising about the fact that Linux gurus are trying to copy every single detail of Mac app GUI's? They already do that with Windows apps.
And Microsoft did it to the Mac when it introduced Windows.
Will I retire or break 10K?
However, with the power saving features of modern computers, it's not really necessary to turn them off at the end of the day (unless they're misconfigured).
Or unless the motherboard manufacturer's ACPI implementation is extremely buggy and just barely manages to work with Windows, and the manufacturer doesn't give FreeBSD driver writers any help in working around those bugs.
Even without power saving features, the real power drains have always been CRTs, not the computers themselves.
Excuse me? An NVIDIA GeForce 4 card is not part of a CRT.
Will I retire or break 10K?
This game doesn't work with computers, because prices are continually dropping. But for things like the Airport Base Station, iPod, special adapters, etc, Apple really has a great strategy.
They release it at some price with a razor thin margin (or even take a slight hit). As technology becomes cheaper, the profit margin skyrockets. When the iPod came out, Apple's profit was something rediculously small, like $20 per unit. With the dropping price of that hard drive, it looks like 40-50% of an iPod is pure profit.
I don't think Apple has the balls to release a $699 MP3 player, so I expect that if there is a new, bigger iPod they may announce price drops. But there is almost *no* competition for the iPod (flames aside), so Apple has little motivation to drop its prices.
I looked at an iPod, it's nice but it's not suitable for running, i can't stick a firewire card in my work PC (where all the bandwidth is) and it's far too expensive for me.
So, I'm looking at the Frontier Labs, Nexus II. Anyone bought one? Is it any good? Do you like it? Major points for me is:
For $200, it may not be everything iPod is, but looks a good bargain.
Many thanks to anyone who answers!
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"Why bother dealing with the hassle of Windows software support issues"
They don't have to worry. All they have to do is release it while saying they won't support it.
That is pretty much what Microsoft does. I've given up on ever calling them about problems (the thing that makes them look bad is that they say they support it).
this defines the RPM DEPENANCY HELL that you hear about so much. I'm having to install ~7 RPMs on Mdk 8.2. And ppl ask me why I'm moving to gento....
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"But there is almost *no* competition for the iPod (flames aside), so Apple has little motivation to drop its prices."
There are already several competitive models, some of which have definitive advantages over the iPod.
"And Microsoft did it to the Mac when it introduced Windows""
And Apple did to Windows when M$ edged ahead with Windows 95.
"Apple isn't in the business of selling an OS, or even hardware. They're in the business of selling a user experience, a digital lifestyle"
Did you used to work for J. Peterman or something? That's ad copy. Not news or an intelligent comment to news.
"It might sound like marketting bullshit, but think about it... Coca Cola doesn't sell a can of carbonated sugar
Yes they do. Think about it. Critical as I am of Apple advertising claims, I know they can only get so far on vapor claims. They reason they succeed as much as they do is nothing but hardware and software sales.
It looks about as throwback/regressive/poorly thought out as running old Windows 3.1 software. Quicktime is that bad, it it would take little effort to fix it.
For most Windows users, this is the introduction to how Apple does things. It is more likely to repel than to attract to Apple.
It is my understanding that:
1. The iPod uses HFS+ (the preferred FS of OSX)
2. Linux can't read HFS+ at present (if you dual-boot a Mac OS and Linux, your bootstrap partition is limited to HFS)
Can someone elaborate?
ZOMG I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS ON MACINTOSH VERSUS WINDOWS, VI VERSUS EMACS, AND HOW YOU'RE NOT A DORK
"At least this time, Apple isn't frivolously wielding the DMCA against the makers of such software; the company has only requested that third-party software publishers not infringe Apple trademarks"
Instead they have other methods of legal oppression they were using years before the DMCA ever was a twinkle in Big Brother's eye. From suing other companies for stealing GUI from the same source Apple stole it from to harassing companies on what their machine case looked like.
The Apple legal department's creativity rivals the creativity of their developers.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
you are doomed to repeat it. Very few people remember that in the 80s (or was it early 90s) Apple sued MS over the Windows interface, among other things, because it too closely resembled mac. Then there were the suits over the Lotus 123 interface ripping off (I think) SuperCalc.
The courts decided back then that a UI is not something that can be copyrighted. They claimed it'd be like copyrighting the interface to a car, and thus would be bad for the industry.
But, then again, that was eons ago.
(I'd have to go digging to find links for this, but I'm sure there are duly motivated people who will research this and/or correct my flawed memory.)
The heart of the iPod is its small form-factor Toshiba hard drive which is also available in the GigaBeat MP3 player from Toshiba itself.
Check it out here
Probably, it froze with bluescreen about 3 minutes into the session. You choose not to pull the plug, so it stayed up.
If there is ONE part of the M$ os that is stable, it is a total bluescreen crash.
They can get a nice gui for the ipaq, but my palm m125 still can't be sync'd under linux.
I'm turning green w/ envy here.
The iPod is a FireWire disk. Windows needs software for it because it's formatted in HFS+ (I believe). But Linux has native HFS+ support (and UFS, for that matter). You should just be able to plug it in and use something like "rsync" to synchronize your music. Other than that, iPod uses MP3 tags.
Yes, it is. And at very least I demand the option to do just that in my OS.
Here's an example: I have a SOHO fileserver I built that is up 24/7 (77 days, 18-something hours as I write this). It's like those Snap NAS devices you see in Fry's, but mine didn't cost $1600 and it's based on Red Hat 7.3. It has 80GB of RAID1 disk space, acts as a printing daemon, runs Apache and ssh for remote access, X in case I want to remote display an aplication, VNC in case I want a remote desktop from my wife's Windows box, Samba for sharing to her machine anmd NFS for remote mounts to my other Linux boxes. It has MP3 ripping and encoding software, and a MySQL database that has everything from a list of ID3 tags for those MP3s to my personal finances to the household event calendar for the year. It has Java, C, Perl and PHP on it for when I write/test software. Long story short: I rely on that machine for a lot of things, and it's very inconvenient when it's down (as it was when I upgraded to RH7.3 and added the RAID pair). In fact, one could argue that the very nature of the machine requires that it be up 24/7. So it fits your definition of a server (and I also use it as my remote access machine, so it often functions as a "workstation").
However, I used the same CDs to install my desktop OS as I did for the fileserver's "server" OS. This came naturally to me and I didn't give it a second thought until now. The line between workstation and server is -- to me and in my situation -- almost completely blurred. As a consequence of using my server OS on my desktop, my desktop machine stays up as long as I need it to. And I sometimes want it to be up for a long time. I often have remote consoles to a bunch of different work machines open, an editor going with files everywhere, half-baked GIMP projects on my fourth desktop, etc. I do personal side projects at night, "regular" work in the day. By keeping all my apps/files open to where I had them the night before, I can come home, sit down, power on my monitor and pick up instantly where I left off. It's very handy and provides a sense of continuity. I couldn't live without that "feature", probably, to say nothing of the supreme inconvenience of having your workstation decide all on its own to force you to reboot it...
Rebooting is for when you add hardware and upgrade a kernel, nothing more. I admit that I might be slightly unusual as far as PC users go, but why wouldn't I demand the option to have any machine be up as long as I need it to be up?
-B
Ash and Hickory, straight-grained and true, make excellent bludgeons, dandy for the cudgeling of vegetarians.
Actually I have never had QT make my OS shit the bed. Then again I don't run win98. I run win2k. However it has a terrible UI, doesn't go full screen, likes to screw with file associations and browser settings, and worst of all loves to put up nag screens to upgrade to pro. For the record, I have the pro version too, it is no better.
I wish someone else would license the Sorensen codec, so I could use something than quicktime.
Has anyone actually found the xtunes software useful? I tried it out a few weeks ago in my never ending search for a good Linux mp3 player. I had major problems with the latest (0.30) version. By default, xtunes wants to move all of your mp3's into its own "database", which is just ~/.xtunes/library - a real pain in the ass when you have 60 gigs of well-sorted mp3's (I did figure out how to change this though). I can create playlists, but I can not find any way to add songs to them. There is no documentation, and drag/drop does not work. Strangely, the screenshots show playlists with songs in them, how do you do it? And finally, the whole thing is rather unstable. I can't count the number of times it crashed or became unresponsive while I was trying to figure out my two previous problems.
I've been badly wanting an ipod since they were released, but didn't feel like installing windows or buying a mac. If this ipod solution is usable I will probably buy one, but I have to question the choice of software. Why not a stand-alone application? Or a plugin for an mp3 player that actually works? I hope there are some major improvements to xtunes on the way.
LOL! Pure genius!
Jesse! Nah nah, Jerome! Bring me ma hat!
... take a pill and get OVER it, already! The guy was TROLLING you, you dumb son of a bitch! Jesus Christ, do you stylish, oh-so-hip Macintosh lemmings ALWAYS take yourselves so seriously? I guess so, since you've got Steve Jobs reality distortion field going on all around you.
Let me say this slowly, so even a true believer like yourself can understand it, slick: Steve Jobs STOLE OS X from *BSD, just like he did with NeXT. He's a snake oil salesman who's made you feel like you're one of the body, Landrew, because you've done The Intelligent Thing, you've bought his brand of snake oil. Well, la-tee-fucking-dah!
Dip shit.
Since their signup script seems to be croaking on their site, I wanted to see if anyone had actually been accepted for the beta? Is it posted for download anywhere?