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Pentium 4 2.8Ghz Review
Alex Behrens writes "Hardware-Unlimited, part of the 3D-Unlimited Network, has posted a review of the Pentium 4 2.8Ghz! The review includes all the latest benchmarks and information about the final Pentium 4 processor before we hit the 3Ghz mark. Check it out!"
A repeat story in the same day!
Huzzah the Editors!
Who run Barter Town?
Does CmdrTaco even read the slashdot homepage before accepting stories?
Now i know that there are a lot of people out there who are just waiting to buy these new P4 chips, but having so many stories in such a short span on the main page is a bit too much ;)
SIX Hours Later!
Now still on the Front Page, where Everyone Can See It!
Double Posting Faster than Ever Before!!
This iiiiiiiissssssssss ridiculous!
Thank youuuuuuuu for watching!
If I had a sig, this is where it would be.
Two posts on the same story in the same day! Ya for repeats!
How many reviews of this do we need in a 24 hour period?
omg april fools! (that's all I can say).
omg! april fools!
~the keyboard is mightier than the pen.
This has to be a new record for redundant articles...
"The best argument against democracy is a five minute chat with the average voter."
--Winston Churchill
editors weren't happy with the discussion in the previous thread(s).
Intel is reporting that there is a bug in the core design (Which is not necessarly bad they say), that would further delay the deloplyment of the chip. This is wierd, couldn't they have tested it out before rushing it out like this? If only they waited one day more....
Hey Commando Taco, how much does Intel and the movie industry pay you?
What's the matter? AMD wouldn't "play ball"?
You people crack me up.
Mod away, it won't hurt me!
Wise up Taco, nobody cares about this.
It was only a few ours that I heard intel were releasing a errrmm.. 2.8GHz chip
Mouse powered Chips, Open source Processors and Lego
When you submit your article, submit it several times. Chances are that one of the editors will not be aware of what is going on and post it. In essence, slashdot the submission page.
Remember, You are unique...just like everyone else.
I'd better invest my money for having more RAM and faster system bus. Why would I need ~3Ghz for software development and information/document management?
Less is more !
CLOSE THIS THREAD, NOW.
Now where have i seen this article before....?
Jonahweb.com has stuff.
Reviews of hardware come from pretty much the same half-dozen review sites every time. How about this idea?
When a review of a "new release" hits one site, wait 24 hours for all of them to release reviews then link it in one article?
You could even time it, considering many of the sites do "previews" that say something along the lines of "the NDA will expire on XX/YY, until then..." Sort of gives you a clue when the full review is coming out.
Learning HOW to think is more important than learning WHAT to think.
In other news, Hardware-Unlimited, part of the 3D-Unlimited Network, posted a review of the Pentium 4 2.8Ghz! The review includes all the latest benchmarks and information about the final Pentium 4 processor before we hit the 3Ghz mark. Check it out!
remember that slashdot editors need to get stoned once in a while too. just don't be too harsh on them.
thanks for posting that second story. it was an inspiring event. we really need a second thread to discuss the challenges faced by the intel marketing department.
Slashdot jumped the shark when;
(a) When they switched to a "pay for no ads" service
(b) When they posted a dupe story within a six hour period
(c) When they started displaying those huge ads
(d) When they started showing MS ads in those banners
I.O.U One Sig.
I can understand if Slashdot needs to flaunt its redundant, fail-proof system of posting, but jeez, we only need to see the redundant systems when the primary ones fail... Stop the double posting, already!
The whole problem here is that Taco doesn't read his own site anymore. He just assumes that whatever he posts coudln't possibly have been put up already by anyone else. If you disagree with me, just look back at all the redundant posts in the past and you'll notice that the second poster is always the supreme leader himself...
+1 Insightful, -1 Troll. What can I say, I'm an Insightful Troll.
GHz is the correct.
One of the got it right.
Mouse powered Chips, Open source Processors and Lego
It seems to me that processor speeds have relly shot up in the last 6 months. Before, there was always a nice tie between the advances in processor speed and the extra needs of Windows. This arrangment worked well for both parties in that everyone felt they had to have both to be right with the world. Has Intel (and AMD) now said to heck with MS we're going to put all the speed we can into our machines? Or, are we seeing a MHz race between Intel and AMD? With a viable competitor, Intel can no longer trickle out improvments at their own pace, they have to deal with someone else matching and exceeding their pace. What does this bode for the future of processors?
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They forgot the exclamation !! points in the first one!!!!
And pull the plug on this story.... Sorry to say it, but somebody fucked up-and how!
"Did you ever get that feeling of Deja Vu?"
"Wait, didn't you just say that?"
=P
You mean Intel has a 2.8 GHz processor out? Sorry, I'm a little slow.
Taco says, "Yeah, I thought the 'news for nerds' stuff is too old. I'm thinking 'Geeks Inside'.".
~the keyboard is mightier than the pen.
Clearly they used a Pentium 4 (jingle) to double post this quick!
How many reviews of the same product does /. need in the same day? Just curious.
These really should have been combined into one post.
he just came up with a punching cool sounding department name... sad
more-of-the-same-equals-happy?
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it aint all _that_ bad,.... right?
Today, Intel proudly announced their new dual Pentium 2.8GHz processors.
My NEC V-25 is running just fine thanx. None of that heat-sunk glycol-cooled Pentium crap for me.
Roving Web-Teleoperated Robot
Call this a news site? I miss the Pentium 4 2.8 GHz annoucement!
Submit every one of the Pentium IV 2.8 GHz reviews as a new story! Let's set a new Slashdot record for repeated headlines in a four hour period!
C'mon, I will not be satisfied until I see six news items posted about the same topic here on Slashdot!!
Grab a link from the parent post, add a cutesy wrapper, and send it to "Submit Story"... let's see how many P4 stories we can get on the homepage today!!
Here and Here
i miss read the heading. i thought they had come out with a fster chip.
i need to get some sleep.
check out slashdot.org before you post a story.
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Umm...the article makes a rather curious statement about Moore's Law.
12 months ago - 2.0GHZ
Now - 2.8GHz
Fairly soon - 3.0 GHZ
Where is Moore's Law? How does fairly soon translate to 4GH?
Just started reading the review and noticed this paragraph:
Sorry for my ignorance, but when did 3GHz become twice as fast as 2GHz? According to 2.0GHz and 2.8GHz point estimates, Intel should hit 4.0GHz about a year from now (2.8*(2.8/2.0)=3.92). A little slower than Moore's law predicts...
Jason
someone submitted this to two different departments, the "need-for-speed" department and the "more-mhz-equals-more-happy" department. After all, we all know that different areas of a company dont ever know what each other are doing, just look at Sony!!
This is my sig. Its pathetic.
c'mon folks, this info is important...
;-P
i mean, just look at the kind of info we get from page 5 of the linked review:
The video card is still throttling the higher resolutions...
blah blah blah...
We are also nearing 300 frames per second at the lowest resolutions...
blah blah blah, wait for it, because the paragraph ends...
meaning that the Pentium 4 running at 2.8Ghz is really fast.
i mean c'mon folks, could you make it through the day without this kind of insightful, probing journalism?
i expect this kind of devastating information to be important to us on slashdot!
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
To have "jumped the shark" pretty much means to have "gone to hell" - based on a Happy Days show where Fonzie waterski-jumped a shark. The show was pretty much game over from then on. More definition and I'll also bet the above poster reads Boondocks.
42.8 Ghz?!? Holy crap!
Oh... wait... never mind.
42.8 Ghz?!? Holy crap!
Oh... wait... never mind.
Great. Thanks to Taco, I unwittingly produced a redundant post: " Did any other late-night owls..."
Don't believe the hype -- duplicate stories are NOT a victimless crime!
Stupid moderators, my post was not off topic, it was blatant flamebait.
Please do better in the future.
Who run Barter Town?
If so, we know Taco has one!
Posted by CmdrTaco on 2002.08.26 16:19
;)
Writer Stephen King was discovred dead in his Florida hoem erlier today. Details are scarse at the moment. I'm confedent that he will be missed by everyone in teh Slashdot community, concidering his contrebutions to popular culture which cant be denied even if your not a fan of his work. Truly an American icon.
"we first eyed the Pentium 4 running at 2.0Ghz, which debuted on August 27, 2001, and today we are testing the new Pentium 4 2.8Ghz. According to Moore's law, Intel is ahead of the schedule to double processing power every 18 months"... Let's see now... 1 plus 1 equals, duh... er, 3!
Is is so hard for the editors to have a policy of checking with the other editors before posting an article? I fail to see the difficulty here.
Yes, Intel is probably paying /. to post this story twice. It's great ad having everyone talking about it.
Yea, how did they get one so fast, reviewed it, et al, when it just was released. Damn, and people say I sit hitting refresh on ./ too much.
How about camping at the chip store or waiting for the UPS man all night just to get the chip and test it to see if it's really faster than the 2.6 ghz. OF course it's gonna be faster. When was the last time that you saw a nonoverclocked chip of slower speed beat the newer one?
Tibbon
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Huh? I still have two Pentium 3 850mhz computers...
What ? They broke 1 ghz?
They have 2.0 ghz?
Huh? A 2.8ghz?!?!?! Where have I been?
You would think they way they do these benchmarks that you really need 200+ FPS in Quake 3 at 1600*1200@32 with everything to the max.
I still have a 486 running Linux around here to use as a beast for some things.
Tibbon
tibbon.com
Has anyone else noticed that while you can pick up a 2.8Ghz Pentium on pricewatch, the Athlon 2400 and 2600 are nowhere to be seen? Anyone know where they are actually selling these things?
Woopty Doo Basil, what does it all mean?!
So let me get this traight... Intel DIDN'T release the 2.8ghz P4 and they're not planning to? Wow. You say they're going to stop making CPU's and focus on producing small toys of the blue man group? Wow.
(Hey, if editors don't read stories why should I?)
wow!
I just saw that episode the other day, they broadcast the show in sweden every morning 8-9 on Kanal 5...
but I cant remember defining the expression of jumping the shark..
You do mean the episode where Fonz gets challenged by a beachboy, the first contest is a tie, and to break the tie they jump over the shark, and the competitor bails out just before the ramp?
Intel is playing a horrible game, look we have a faster chip every 3 months. I work in an Intel house and could care less.
AMD baby, more bang for the buck.
Ubuntu- Linux for human beings.
Taco, you stupid shit. Not only did you post a fucking duplicate story, you posted one with fuzzy math in it (2 * 2 = 3).
Here's a few tips, you Bender worshiping romosexual: wash the hot grits off your crotch, get the seven inch dildo out of your ass, USE A FUCKING CALCULATOR, AND CHECK YOUR OWN FUCKING HOMEPAGE!!!
http://www.hardware-unlimited.com/ is not a place to go if you don't have popups disabled.
So not only is this a duplicate topic, the site pointed to is guaranteed to annoy.
"Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there" - Will Rogers
Wow next we will have 10Thz cpus, whoopy.
What would be even cooler [punny] is if they made processors with the same MIPS but way less POWER requirements.
IIRC I once saw a paper on mW per MIPS [citeseer]. That's the type of research intel and amd should be looking into.
Someday, I'll have a real sig.
Just exactly what we need for faster pr0n. Here's an idea, quit posting reviews nobody gives a shit about, and certainly don't post them more than once.
"It's about all we can do right now," CmdrTaco said in an interview Monday morning. "We're hoping to get a new shipment of karma in within the next few days, but until then we're gonna have to just keep posting trollbait." Mr. Taco refused to comment on rumors that the low-quality postings were in any way related to the recent spate of coffee-machine breakdowns at slashdot.
Stay tuned for further developments.
"The best argument against democracy is a five minute chat with the average voter."
--Winston Churchill
It's kind of surprising to see how many pussies here have their lives turned upside down by a repeat post.
Michael apparently had some success with this http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/08/2 4/1921239&mode=thread&tid=134
...OKay, so I realize that Mhz aint the whole ball o' wax but it 5eems that the mhz gulf between the PPC and x86 is just getting way out of hand. Even with the supposed architectural efficiencies of the RISC, it seems that those benefits are being occluded by this widening gap in clockcycles.
I have read in various places that Mot0 has suffered some tremendous "braindrain" in their design teams, which badly affected their ability to bust out fastr ch1ps....But I first heard this tale of woe like 2 years ago! Could it be that they have yet to recover from this unfortunate ph3nomenon?
I'm beginning to wonder if Apple should just abandon the RISC platform altogether and let loose with the Intel version of OS X that they undoubtedly have (X being based on openstep).
Also, I once read an article on ARS a couple years back about the whole RISC vs. CISC debate being largely erroneous. That some of the x86 registers (I think they were actually using an AMD for comparison) actually had reduced instruction sets and that some of the registers on the (then current) G3 had some complex instructions embedded into its architecture. It said that a more accurate term to describe CPU architecture for b0th x86 and PPC would be FISC standing for FAST Instruction Set...
at any rate, I would like to see the PPC brought to the point where they could start putting out wafers of chips that clocked somewhere in the neighborhood of the x86 product line. Especially since at similar clockspeeds they would outperform their conterparts, but also because in the minds of the publix, Mhz is highly marketable. Most people equate Mhz with Mph...
Quod scripsi, scripsi.
...with the Athlon XP 2700+, with a 333MHz FSB.
What's going to happen then?
One ought to think that Slashdot wouldn't be the place that was buying in for the GHz-hype of Intel. Wasn't it just a couple of weeks ago AMD set fourth to get a more sensible labeling of CPUs and what they can deliver.
One ought to get the ability to moderate the articles, not just the comments.
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The P4 design is scalable to 10 GHz and should be rather easy to get it to 5 GHz. The PIII CuMine took 13 steppings and numberous revisions to tweak out more than 1.13 GHz.
The P4 has a lot of changes to increase scalability. These include a very deep pipeline (20 steps) and wait states for signal drive (propagation time for current across the chip). This makes the P4 less powerful per clock cycle than the P3, but releases it from the design straight jacket. Intel took a lot of heat for the new design and the inherant trade-offs, but the choice is starting to pay off at 2.2 GHz and above.
Mike
"The benchmarks from Quake III: Arena follow the same pattern we have seen since the introduction of the Pentium 4: at the top of the leader board with a solid lead over the Athlon XP."
Seem like a pretty pathetic lead for the price you pay.
For a system that I use for work - rather than games - I'm more interested in load balancing between multiple CPUs. I know I can get a dual Athlon system that will give me a smooth ride even during heacy operating load. Can I get a dual P4 system as easily?
Da Blog
With processors close to the 3GHz mark, I guess that the EM radiation levels should start getting some more attention. A usual "gray box" computer is well shielded should not cause much problems. But with all these case mods full of plexiglas, there is less of a Faraday cage to trap radiation in.
:-) That's one readon why I keep my case closed all the time (the other is cause it looks better with all the mess hidden).
Remember that the higher the frequency, higher the energy level, so more care should be exercised before you decide to put yourself under exposure for long hours every day.
Also, the clock speeds are near the frequency of the microwave radiation on your oven, that thing about resonance of the H2O molecule that makes you feel all warm. Another bit to worry about.
In the end that may prove be a non-issue, but I'm no expert on the field and usually prefer to exercise caution now and avoid chemotherapy later
More precisely, when a show "jumps the shark" it means that the series is in a death spiral. Jumping the shark referrs to an exciting plot development that (hopefully) bails it out from bad ratings. Sorta like a "very special episode" but those happen while a show is popular. Wow! My first post :)
Reviews with a twist! http://www.sardonicbastard.com
STILL sucks giant donkey balls!
Damn, now I can't wait for the 2.85ghz cpu reviews! I only hope it's at least 1.75% better than these 2.8ghz ones.
This just in...
Sources are reporting that a recent attempt to slow the depletion of the karma pool at Slashdot have proven unsuccessful. Internal audits leaked to this station have revealed that, in fact, karma utilization has risen in the past hours.
One person close to the Slashdot team has stated: "We thought that the moderators would realize that the posts would be perfect fodder for modding down. Unfortunately, we were wrong."
In addition to many people modding comments highlighting the duplicate postings up, there have been unconfirmed reports of cross-posting of ideas getting modded up. If these reports are true, it is still to be seen whether this represents a duplication of ideas or an intentional abuse of the system.
Didn't some guy already boot at somewhere around 3.6ghz by overclocking a p4 and using liquid nitro? Somehow this will make the breaking of the 3ghz barrier slightly less impressive.
Now we're all posting the same comments on redundancy.
Jonahweb.com has stuff.
Anyone have any FreeBSD benchmarks on Intel vs AMD like the reviews posted on Windows benchmarks? I don't run Windows or linux (both have set back the state of operating systems by 10 years), so FreeBSD would be much more relevant to me.
Since it seems that Slashdot editors aren't perfect either, how about reinstating M1 and M2 privs to those of us who lost their privs in the Great Censored Thread fiasco?
May we never see th
Stop talking out of your asses. Do you have links to these claims, or not?