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Bite My Shiney PC-Metal Game

dagashi writes "'The ingenious, creative mind of Matt Groening (The Simpsons) now brings arguably his greatest creation yet, Futurama, to the interactive entertainment screen.' Looks like Futurama is signed to become a game. Yeha!"

191 comments

  1. Game... yay by delta407 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Frankly, I'd rather have the TV show.

    1. Re:Game... yay by unicron · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, but at least you don't have to worry about people canceling your game every week.

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    2. Re:Game... yay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who's making you choose?

    3. Re:Game... yay by Jonny+Ringo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ummm Yeah. You don't wait for games to come out do you?

    4. Re:Game... yay by The+Turd+Report · · Score: 1

      Unless you run it on some MS/Palladium system. :)

    5. Re:Game... yay by delta407 · · Score: 5, Informative
      FOX is.

      Q: Is Futurama really cancelled?!
      A: While FOX never said it cancelled the show, they did stop ordering new episodes. The production crew thus broke up. There is a slight chance that FOX might ask David X. Cohen to build up a new team for another season. The episodes shown this fall all were meant to be aired last year but never did due to various pre-emptions. So they aren't really new.
    6. Re:Game... yay by unicron · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Hell yes I do. I have about 6 games prepaid at EB right now.

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    7. Re:Game... yay by Buck2 · · Score: 1

      I hear they don't wear underwear under those things.

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    8. Re:Game... yay by Jonny+Ringo · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Sorry, I'm trying to be funny today but it aint workin out.

    9. Re:Game... yay by Cruciform · · Score: 2

      Unless you're the developer.

    10. Re:Game... yay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      However, "We now bring you your regularly scheduled game already in progress"

    11. Re:Game... yay by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 1

      And you don't have to worry about your game being pre-empted for fscking American Football.

      Too bad there's not a PC version lined up..
    12. Re:Game... yay by racerx509 · · Score: 1

      unless your roomate just got a copy of Madded XYZ millenium edition

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    13. Re:Game... yay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I got it... Don't worry...

    14. Re:Game... yay by packeteer · · Score: 2

      one word... diakatana...

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    15. Re:Game... yay by DrGreenGenes · · Score: 0

      Frankly I`d rather have a Simpsons movie.

    16. Re:Game... yay by LittleGuy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, but at least you don't have to worry about people canceling your game every week.

      One of the new features of the Futurama game is, before you can play it, you have to sit through 25 minutes of NFL Action 2003.

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    17. Re:Game... yay by mrmez · · Score: 1

      you must not live in Greece

  2. Yeah! by reezle · · Score: 1


    Just in time for the New season! (Wait, aren't they canceled?)

    1. Re:Yeah! by MentLTheo · · Score: 1

      actually they arent! they are going to be showing new shows in the us starting nov 10th!!(yay!) the show has stopped producing episodes but apparently they have enough episodes to last more than 1 whole season! Fox was ALWAYS pushing it off to show some crappy football game, so they stockpiled all of those episodes. As long as people keep watching, they might just bring it back after those episodes run out. Keep watching everyone!

  3. Will there be.. by MikeSweetser · · Score: 3, Funny

    blackjack? And hookers?

    1. Re:Will there be.. by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

      yeah, screw the video game

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      "Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
    2. Re:Will there be.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait, forget the blackjack.

    3. Re:Will there be.. by Cruciform · · Score: 2

      You do that.

      We'll be over here... with the hookers.

    4. Re:Will there be.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eh... screw the whole thing.

  4. Shiney?! by doc_traig · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I didn't watch Futurama... please tell me shiny is spelled this way out of reverence to something in the show.

    - DDT

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    1. Re:Shiney?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One of the Characters says "Bite my shiney metal ass." -- Bender
      Yes, you are right, its a typo.

    2. Re:Shiney?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is referance also spelled this way in referance to something on the show?

    3. Re:Shiney?! by MentLTheo · · Score: 0

      give it up. Have something better to do than criticize peoples' typing, dude. You have typos in your post, so watch that glass house action!

    4. Re:Shiney?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Psst..

      reference

    5. Re:Shiney?! by mcpkaaos · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm assuming for the same reason 'yeah' is spelled 'yeha'. I didn't catch that one until I realized it wasn't a Dukes of Hazard reference. Now if only they will release that game! Oh well, so long as I can find a Daisy skin for the Futurama game.

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    6. Re:Shiney?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=shiney

      hemos can't spell

    7. Re:Shiney?! by Xerithane · · Score: 3, Funny

      give it up. Have something better to do than criticize peoples' typing, dude. You have typos in your post, so watch that glass house action!

      Which typo are you pointing out? Hemos spelled "shiny" wrong. He was asking if it was a joke that he should laugh it. It's not a joke, but you can still laugh. Go ahead, laugh. It's healthy. Even at the expense of others who can't spell shiny.

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    8. Re:Shiney?! by Wildcat+J · · Score: 1
      Is referance also spelled this way in referance to something on the show?
      Your spelling error notwithstanding, it's entirely possible that he did mean reverence, although, personally, I think reference would be more appropriate.

      -J

    9. Re:Shiney?! by cp4 · · Score: 2

      Pretty sure he's talking about reverence as opposed to reference.

    10. Re:Shiney?! by shepd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      >Now if only they will release that game!

      Too late!

      Download and 'enjoy'. :)

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    11. Re:Shiney?! by Cruciform · · Score: 2

      in the context used, reverance is accurate.

    12. Re:Shiney?! by smooshy · · Score: 1

      except that he meant to say reverence... and i revere lots of things about futurama

    13. Re:Shiney?! by smooshy · · Score: 1

      I have a friend named Shiney. It's her real name. Honest.

    14. Re:Shiney?! by SlashdotMakesMeKool · · Score: 0

      wow cool! What's her second name? Do you know her well? How old is she? Is she a ladyboy? Wait, wait, let me guess, er, um, is her second name Metal? Was I right? WAS I RIGHT?????

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    15. Re:Shiney?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "Don't you mean the 'Shining?'"


      "Shhh! Do you want get sued?"

    16. Re:Shiney?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Psst. I know.

      I was typing sarcastically - you know, commenting on a misspelled comment about misspellings with an INTENTIONALLY misspelled comment.

    17. Re:Shiney?! by BollocksToThis · · Score: 1

      No, reverence is accurate, reverance is not.

      Oh, the fun in this thread! Typo here, typo there...

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    18. Re:Shiney?! by The_dev0 · · Score: 1

      Shiney? of "right down behind me" fame? Wow, and I thought the 80's were over!

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    19. Re:Shiney?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? There is no typo in his post. You're seeing things.

    20. Re:Shiney?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So many mispellings...er...misspellings.

    21. Re:Shiney?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's not criticizing typing, he's criticizing spelling.

      Shiney instead of Shiny is not a typo. E is nowhere near the N or Y keys.

    22. Re:Shiney?! by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 1

      Actually, that should be spelled, "YeeHaw!".

    23. Re:Shiney?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's not criticizing typing, he's criticizing spelling.

      Shiney instead of Shiny is not a typo. E is nowhere near the N or Y keys.


      Damn, how big is your keyboard, its only a few centimetres on mine

    24. Re:Shiney?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are both fucking morons...

      The word in question is reverence.. and it is spelled correctly.

      Now get out of your parent's basement, stop humping the dictionary, and go try to get laid.

    25. Re:Shiney?! by BonoChris · · Score: 1
      Your wait for the game is over!

      The Dukes of Hazzard: Racing for Home is wildly popular amongst hardcore gamers in Georgia and programmers in Redmond!

      Check here for info...

      --chris.

    26. Re:Shiney?! by Cruciform · · Score: 2

      Futurama maid me illitrit!

    27. Re:Shiney?! by Wildcat+J · · Score: 1
      Standard /. pedantry follows...

      Accurate and appropriate are different beasts. Sure, reverence works (although he should have said "for" and not "to"). That was the first point I was making by linking the definition. "Deference" would also fit in the original poster's sentence. However, using a misspelling is better explained as a "reference" to the show than out of "reverence" for the show. Keeping a (shiny) shrine to Bender in your apartment--now that would be done out of reverence for the show.

      -J

    28. Re:Shiney?! by Fugudeth · · Score: 1

      Yew guise an yore spell link core actions. Sum peep pull arm aching id iffy cult two in joy pose sting wit out ass pal Czech Kerr. Byte mi shine knee met all as.

    29. Re:Shiney?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, you're probably kidding, but to insert a letter that has two keys between it and the closest correct one is one HELL of a spastic typo. A typo is when you accidentally hit the wrong key and don't notice, such as 'yopu' instead of 'you'.

      It's pretty obvious that hemos thought that he was spelling shiny correctly with an e.

  5. This Game by Macblaster · · Score: 1

    Based on one of the greatest television series ever, has a lot going for it, except one thing - the lack of it being for pc. ... Good point, Bender.

    1. Re:This Game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, there's no way I'm buying a console just to play a Futurama game!

  6. If it's as good as the Simpsons games by L-Train8 · · Score: 5, Funny

    After all of high-quality, super-fun-to-play Simpsons games, I'm very excited about this.

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    1. Re:If it's as good as the Simpsons games by SlashdotMakesMeKool · · Score: 0

      Sort of. In the days of the NES, games had to be good, because pretty wasn't an option. The old Amiga/nes Space mutants Simpsons game ruled, but the recent ones are frankly, poor to say the most (like that Tony Hawk rippoff skateboarding game). MAKE THEM DIFFICULT DEVELOPERS!!!!! MAKE ME THROW MY CONTROLLER IN FRUSTRATION!!!!!!

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    2. Re:If it's as good as the Simpsons games by unicron · · Score: 3, Funny

      A game isn't a game unless you can hit someone with a vacuum.

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    3. Re:If it's as good as the Simpsons games by Cyno01 · · Score: 2

      i remember some really great simpsons arcade game, it was like 4 or 6 players, i cant really remember the story though, also barts house of weirdness was great, but tough

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    4. Re:If it's as good as the Simpsons games by bobobobo · · Score: 1

      Actually Matt Groening has been heavily involved with the game from its conception. The game will also feature most of the original voice actors from the show as well. http://www.evilavatar.com/EA/News/M36741/

    5. Re:If it's as good as the Simpsons games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bart's House of Weirdness WAS great, and it was really tough. It was a pretty clever and original arcade game with some adventure thrown in, but the arcadish part was definitely tough.

      I haven't thought about that game in awhile, but man, that was a good game, and I don't think it was ever really popular.

    6. Re:If it's as good as the Simpsons games by llamalicious · · Score: 2

      It is funny actually... during my stint as Technical Mgr @ a Chuck E. Cheese in NYS, the Simpsons arcade game was one of the most played, most profitable arcades we had. And it was fun, Bart's skateboard moves, and Homer's belly flops were hilarious.
      In fact, it was second only to X-Men (of the time.)
      The four player uprights were the best (TMNT, Simpsons, X-Men)

      Of course, YMMV, since I'm biased and wore the mouse suit before becoming a mgr.

    7. Re:If it's as good as the Simpsons games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The four player uprights were "cool" when I was a kid, but they are total crap now. Try it - get an emulator, and see what happens.

      You quickly realize that the games (at least TMNT and the Simpsons, can't speak for X-Men) are nothing but hold right, hit attack, and pump in more quarters. There's no need to be clever or agile as long as you have more money.

      Obviously the arcade operators love this, but the people who were footing the bill for those gaming sessions sure weren't happy.

    8. Re:If it's as good as the Simpsons games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I footed the bill for playing those games myself, and I was happy. In fact, I ran into a X-men machine a few months back and we spent a few dollars on it, and it was still a lot of fun. I'd much prefer another one of those than another dumb streetfighter clone.

    9. Re:If it's as good as the Simpsons games by FleaPlus · · Score: 1

      Dude, I just know you aren't dissin' the Simpsons arcade game.

  7. Wow... by krmt · · Score: 5, Funny

    This will go down in history right beside the many memorable, thrilling, and compelling Simpsons games for the NES and SNES, as well as nearly every other license-based game ever made. I can hardly contain myself.

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    1. Re:Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      How about the Blade Runner game for PC?
      That positively kicked ass.

  8. Erm... by nougatmachine · · Score: 1, Flamebait
    Did anybody play The Simpsons' Road Rage? It sucked.

    License!=Good Game

    1. Re:Erm... by MentLTheo · · Score: 1

      unfortunately though, simpsons has been done to death. The new episodes, in my opinion, dont even compare to the old ones. Hopefully, futurama still has a fighting chance.

    2. Re:Erm... by shepd · · Score: 1

      Strange, I thought that one was the best of the entire line of Simpsons games (starting with the Arcade version, of course).

      I guess that's the way life goes... can't please them all! :)

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    3. Re:Erm... by Osty · · Score: 1

      unfortunately though, simpsons has been done to death. The new episodes, in my opinion, dont even compare to the old ones. Hopefully, futurama still has a fighting chance.

      And yet, the Simpsons games way back on the original NES sucked as well, even though the Simpsons was still in its prime then. Therefore, just because Futurama isn't quite as run into the ground yet doesn't mean a game based upon it will be any good.

    4. Re:Erm... by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      "Did anybody play The Simpsons' Road Rage? It sucked.

      License!=Good Game "


      Wow, what a thoughtfully expressed opinion!

      In all seriousness, though, parent poster makes a good point despite the retarded 'flamebait' moderation. Licenses do not instantly equal a good game. As a matter of fact, they tend to detract from it.

      People like familiarity. That's why movies and games bring in big $$$ when they have famous characters or actors in them. The problem is that they tend to focus on little else. They don't even need to!

      In most cases, licensed games are WORSE for it. I can see why, though. Most places think they need to pack the whole movie or TV show into a game. They don't seem to realize that one aspect of the license can be fun. Look at Rogue Squadron, for example. That game doesn't have you running around trying to get C3PO off of an Rebel ship. Instead, they focused on the fun part: Flying around and blowin shit up. Result? Good game. In the same vein, Shadows of the Empire stunk. It tried to be too much.

      Anyway, I think I beat the dead horse enough. The parent poster was basically saying "Just because it's licensed from a good show doesn't mean it'll be a good game." And he's right. Too bad that the mod that nailed him didn't pay more attention to what he was saying.

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    5. Re:Erm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With "Futurama" they avoided the problem of the show losing its edge over time, by producing a big, steaming, nutty, stinky, blood-streaked pile of crap from the very beginning.

  9. nintendo by Drath · · Score: 2

    Maybe this will be as difficult as all those simpsons NES games. They were almost as hard as super star wars.

    1. Re:nintendo by unicron · · Score: 2

      Not to get off topic, but if you want to get into difficult games: Final Fantasy 5-XDeath Fight.

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    2. Re:nintendo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean this one?

      GP Toss
      GP Toss
      GP Toss
      GP Toss
      GP Toss
      GP Toss

      *win*

    3. Re:nintendo by SlashdotMakesMeKool · · Score: 0

      It's so sad that we have to warn moderators not to mod us as offtopic for interesting points these days.

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    4. Re:nintendo by unicron · · Score: 2

      I also really hate it when I reply to someone and it's modded off-topic even though if moderators would open their eyes they'd see I was responding to the post above mine, not the original topic. Their are some really interesting posts that get modded wrongly, it's truly sad.

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  10. This just in. by Jonny+Ringo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Futurama will be released at the hight of its popularity. Exactly one year after its cancelation from FOX.

    Great Timing!

  11. Re:Why? by homer_ca · · Score: 1

    Because it follows in a long line of TV franchises turned into fine video games? (too bad Slash is stripping sarcasm tags)

  12. Great? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is great news, after all we know how great the simpsons games have been....

    Oh crap.

  13. LEARN TO SPELL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hemos -- how many people have to yell this?

    do you not have a spell checker?

    or do you just not care?

    1. Re:LEARN TO SPELL! by rob-fu · · Score: 1

      Perhaps 'yeha' could be a shortened way of spelling 'yeehaw'. That way it doesn't look as hickish.

      CowboyNeal is a genius, and you have the nerve to critique his grammar? For shame.

    2. Re:LEARN TO SPELL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who needs to spell well when VALINUX is a stronghold of job security.

    3. Re:LEARN TO SPELL! by NanoGator · · Score: 1
      Hemos -- how many people have to yell this?

      do you not have a spell checker?

      or do you just not care?


      A.) I think it's not an issue of Hemos not caring, it's that well balanced people don't care.

      B.) Sentences start with capital letters. Do you not care? Why didn't you fire up your spell checker?

      C.) Bite everybody's shiny metal ass.
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      "Derp de derp."
    4. Re:LEARN TO SPELL! by Walterk · · Score: 1

      No, no, no.. that should be shiney metal ass!

    5. Re:LEARN TO SPELL! by chegosaurus · · Score: 2, Redundant

      > well balanced people don't care

      I'm reasonably well balanced, and I care.

      I don't generally pick people up on spelling or typos but I always do my best to make sure there aren't any in anything I write. If nothing else it's a common courtesy to the people who might read it.

      I don't want to wade through a heap of awful spelling and bad grammar. Rightly or wrongly, I can't help but assume that someone who writes good English is smarter than someone who doesn't. (For native English speakers of course!)

      Of course, the odd mistake is bound to get through, but don't you ever assume that someone who hasn't gone to the trouble of checking their spelling *certainly* hasn't gone to the trouble of checking their facts? Oh, and I'm not talking about clicking a spell check icon either: I mean reading back over what you've just written.

      To get back on topic, Futurama as Groening's greatest creation? Puh-lease!

    6. Re:LEARN TO SPELL! by dagashi · · Score: 1

      Perhaps 'yeha' could be a shortened way of spelling 'yeehaw'

      exactly.

  14. Comments? by c0dedude · · Score: 1

    Has TV show ever succesfully transferred to a successful, fun video game? I can't think of any.

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    1. Re:Comments? by falzer · · Score: 1

      TMNT 1 and 2 were okay, I guess.

    2. Re:Comments? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about the FPS, A Very Brady Rampage! :)

    3. Re:Comments? by Cyno01 · · Score: 2

      most tv based arcade games were allright

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    4. Re:Comments? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Goonies

    5. Re:Comments? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The original Simpsons arcade game was awesome.

    6. Re:Comments? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Albeit not a TV show persay but the Noid was a fun game. Remember the Noid, mmmm.

    7. Re:Comments? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd go with "The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy." First a Radio series. Then a TV series, a book, and an Infocom game. How can you resist?

  15. Wow! by Murdock037 · · Score: 2

    Talk about a mountain of information! Who needs gameplay details? Why even bother telling us it'll be out "when it's done?!?"

    (I think this is the one Slashdot story where you probably won't have anything more interesting or insightful to contribute if you bother to follow the link.)

  16. good show != good game by kg439. · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    the show was pretty good, but that doesnt really mean that the game will be any good...it will probably be dry and stupid.

    its only possible value might be the 'laugh factor' at its inane stupidity, which may hearken back to the ultra-high-quality simpsons games.

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  17. really good game-ports of TV series? by SonOfSengaya · · Score: 1

    Hi, is there any game of TV series out there that is really fun for more than 2 minutes? I just remember a disney game ("duck tales"? I'm not sure...) on the old gameboy...

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    1. Re:really good game-ports of TV series? by pheph · · Score: 2

      Duck Tales for NES
      Bart's Nightmare for SNES
      Tiny Toons for SNES

      That's all I can come up with

    2. Re:really good game-ports of TV series? by vicious_sloth · · Score: 1

      Chip and Dales: Resucue Ranger was one of the best side scrolling NES games, espically since two player was on the same screen and you can throw each other into hazards.. buhahahaha

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    3. Re:really good game-ports of TV series? by pheph · · Score: 2

      Oh my, how did I forget that one?! You know what would be interesting is a discussion on movie to game translations instead. There were many more good movie to game translations than series to game.

    4. Re:really good game-ports of TV series? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Buffy for XBox is great. Way better than what I thought it would be.

  18. game premise by neurojab · · Score: 1, Funny

    now YOU can navigate through fry's small intestine, defeat the "truck stop sandwich" parasites, find the splanknic ganglion, and personally tickle it. Yay!

  19. How long has this thing been in development? by handsomepete · · Score: 5, Informative

    Normally I wouldn't say this, but this is old news indeed. It was announced and UDS got the rights in September of 2000... there's a reason it says (c) 2001 on the bottom of that page. CGEF has a little more info here, although it's a mixture of fact and guesswork.

    I honestly did enjoy some of the early Simpsons games (can't tell if other comments are being sarcastic or not - Bart vs The Space Mutants and the original arcade game are fun) and am looking forward to this. Maybe it'll be good use of a TV license.

    1. Re:How long has this thing been in development? by delta407 · · Score: 2

      They may have had the rights, but the announcement on the website didn't happen until sometime between February 4th and June 1st, 2001.

    2. Re:How long has this thing been in development? by Tord · · Score: 2

      I left UDS in March 2000 in order to pursuit another career (had been with the company since the start in 93/94) and by then they had started doing some prototyping, including experimenting with cellshaded 3D in order to give the graphics a good cartoon feeling.

      I will however move back to Norrköping and start working at UDS again by the 1st of November, so I will know more by then. I caught some glimpses by the game when I was visiting about a month ago and its some kind of 3rd person 3D adventure. Can't say anything about how it plays yet though.

  20. its NOT cancelled. by MentLTheo · · Score: 1

    they are still showing unaired episodes that stockpiled up. They just arent producing new ones because of the overstock.

    1. Re:its NOT cancelled. by smooshy · · Score: 1

      You're right, it wasn't canceled yet. But when the stockpiled episodes are done being aired, we will be at that dreaded CANCELLED sign. However, there is still hope!!!!

      futurama in sydication!!!

      "25 more terms..."

  21. Re:Why? by Frothy+Walrus · · Score: 1

    Remember the Simpsons arcade game? That was a good conversion to game -- people had fun playing it. If people have fun playing the Futurama game, why would you stand in their way?

  22. Preempted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Judging by the last new episodes I watched; I think this game is going to be football based.

  23. Also on Fox... by Otter · · Score: 4, Interesting
    While a Futurama-themed arcade-style game doesn't especially excite me, this isn't the first Fox show they've turned into a game. Check out World's Scariest Police Chases . Now that's convergence!

    The real score would be a Temptation Island game, though. Tiffani may have been underutilized on the show, but I can assure you she'd play a much more prominent role in my fantasies, errrr, gaming.

    1. Re:Also on Fox... by rob-fu · · Score: 1

      While a Futurama-themed arcade-style game doesn't especially excite me, this isn't the first Fox show they've turned into a game. Check out World's Scariest Police Chases [www.uds.se] . Now that's convergence!

      Does Sheriff John Bunnell or that other detective with the toupee make it into the game?

      I like the fact that no matter what city they have a helicopter filming a chase, it's the same announcer each time, faking the same enthusiasm, even though he's sitting in a studio just watching it on a monitor and narrating it.

      Seriously, I don't see how good this game could be...it's one thing to see it on TV in real life, but in a video game? I could play GTA and get the same effect, probably.

    2. Re:Also on Fox... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      World's Scariest Police Chases? I have it.

      Definitely a fun game. I find it's a nice companion to Need For Speed III ( Hot Pursuit ). Want to be on the run from the cops? NFSIII. Want to be the cop and chase bad guys, complete with shootout action? World's Scariest Police Chases.

      Probably the most hilarious part of the game is the fairly goofy commentary at the beginning of each scene by the white-haired Sheriff Bunnell ( I think that's the one ). "Stake out the drug-pushing scum!" blah blah blah, what a tool. I had to stop playing because I couldn't drive the slow-ass bomb squad van fast enough to get the 3rd bomb. Oooh, terror-bomb plot. Very scary. Not technically the best *driving* game, NFSIII is certainly better in that respect, but it's fun anyway.

      I understand GTA3 is a nice PS2 variant on the same idea. Some day I'll have enough time/money, and by then there'll probably be PS3...

    3. Re:Also on Fox... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh god, I hope you aren't a White man.

  24. what about... by wo1verin3 · · Score: 0, Troll

    What about a beowulf clus..... ....err ... wait... wrong line.

    I forgot ... oh yeah!

    Does it run on linux?

  25. ugh by Grandpa+Jive · · Score: 1

    As long as I dont have to go around and spray paint random objects so the aliens won't take over Springfield I'll be happy.

    --
    gj

  26. no thanks. by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    futurama is good for its writing. not its graphics. I can bet that the graphics in any futurama game will likely look close to the TV show - in which case, I'll play Hitman 2, UT(X) and other visually pleasing games.

    Its kind of like southpark on DVD - I bought the movie and watched it maybe two times ever.... waste of money.

    1. Re:no thanks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Polygon-fed wanker. Apparently you've never heard of gameplay, or perhaps "fun."

    2. Re:no thanks. by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 2

      youre right - those are two things that I cannot stand in a game. Why the hell would i care about gameplay or fun. and since we have such crappy hardware out there - why would i want a game that would even think to include good graphics to deepen the experience. I must be a fool to think that any game that had good graphics, good gameplay and was fun and compelling could be made.

      I may as well just settle for zork I. that was a fun game - I enjoyed the gameplay... but the graphics were, well I guess it doesnt matter huh. We should focus on text adventures again only.

  27. Re:Why? by rice_web · · Score: 1

    Wow, I got a troll rating. There must be a few Futurama fans I offended...

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    The Political Programmer
  28. Cell Shaded Animation by joeku · · Score: 1

    If there was ever a game that should use cell shading this would be it. Hell, half the show already looks like Jet Grind Radio, they could probably recycle all the sets. :)

  29. Parse these statements by sam_handelman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let's fire up Yacc. Okay, I've parsed these statements, and yes, they really are an advertisement for a videogame.

    The ingenious, creative mind of Matt Groening (The Simpsons) now brings arguably his greatest creation yet, Futurama, to the interactive entertainment screen.

    so, this parses into
    {TAGLINE} {TAGLINE} {PLUG}

    Featuring Bender, Fry, Leela and a whole host of other Futurama characters we've come to know, love and bemuse at, this 3D arcade adventure game is winging its way toward you soon.

    {TAGLINE} {ATTEMPT AT HUMOR} {THIS GAME IS QUAKE}

    Recall, an advertisement for a videogame can be parsed with the following grammar:

    where
    ADVERT:
    | PLUGS JOKES THIS_GAME_IS_QUAKE
    ;

    PLUGS:
    | PLUG PLUGS
    |
    ;

    JOKES:
    | ATTEMPT_AT_HUMOR JOKES
    |
    ;

    PLUG:
    | TAGLINE PLUG
    | a statement that a game is to be made.
    ;

    ATTEMPT_AT_HUMOR:
    | TAGLINE ATTEMPT_AT_HUMOR
    | something which is uniquely characterised as not funny.
    ;

    TAGLINE:
    | a cultural reference.
    ;

    THIS_GAME_IS_QUAKE:
    | any sentence containing the words "adventure" and "3D."
    ;

    Next week we'll learn how to parse slashdot comments, a preview -
    {INACCURACIES | BAD_JOKES}* {IMAGINE A BEOWULF CLUSTER} {TOPIC}

    Imagine a beowulf cluster of... er.... videogames.

    --
    The good and new comes from no quarter where it is looked for, and is always something different from what is expected.
    1. Re:Parse these statements by unicron · · Score: 2

      That looks like the world's ugliest CSS.

      --
      Finally, math books without any of that base 6 crap in them.
    2. Re:Parse these statements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good is weak, evil is strong. What, do I have to draw you a diagram?

      Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.

    3. Re:Parse these statements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      It's a BNF grammar. Didn't you ever take programming languages in college?

    4. Re:Parse these statements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Didn't you ever take programming languages in college?

      No, he became socially acceptable instead.

    5. Re:Parse these statements by orkysoft · · Score: 1

      Learning is fun!

      --

      I suffer from attention surplus disorder.
    6. Re:Parse these statements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you are an annoying geek.

  30. As a MMORPH by pestihl · · Score: 1


    Actually if done right as a MMORPH, it proly would be really fun..

    --
    "What do you do with the mad that you feel when you feel so mad you could bite?" - Mister Rogers
  31. hmm by taernim · · Score: 1

    But will Zoidberg be as lovably hatable in the game?

    Hopefully he will serve some sort of purpose where he says annoying things, you smack him around, and then people cheer.

    That would be pretty close to the show. ;)

    --
    "PC Load Letter? What the $@#% does that mean?!"
  32. I hope there are good easter eggs in here by timothy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    - a Fry timeline would be fun

    - centerfolds; one of Leela, one of Zoidberg

    - Good soundbites from the show

    - Digs at Fox for letting go the best thing they had going

    - What else? :)

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  33. Matt Groening cashes in on the stupid. by raehl · · Score: 2, Funny

    Matt Groening recently announced the latest creation in a series of video games based on his Fox TV shows. "Futurama", based on the TV show of the same name, is his first non-Simpsons forray into the realm of video game spin-offs. "The potential for this game is amazing," said Mr. Groening. "We made a killing with the Simpsons games despite a complete lack of creative effort. One can only imagine how successful a game based on a show that's actually been cancelled will be." Stan Skinner, owner of TheStupid.com, concurred, adding "TheStupid will snap this game off the shelves. Everyone knows that the writers save the best jokes for the video game spinoffs, making purchasing this game an absolute necessity for the Futurama fan." "I'm just so happy that Matt has been so generous," exlaimed Judy Thomas. "There arn't many in the television industry who would so readily leap at the chance to sell old material in a new media format."

  34. This is questionable. by deadb0lt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From my experience with Matt Groening spawned games, they all end up being really bad. The only good ones were "Bart VS The Space Mutants" and "Simpson's Bowling". It's too bad they get a competent team together and produce a great game. Simpsons with the right team of people could make a phenolemal game.

    Cross your fingers for next one guys.

    Just my 2 cents.

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    1. Re:This is questionable. by deadb0lt · · Score: 1

      Ooops, thats:

      *CAN'T* get a competent team together.

      Whoops.

      --
      I would create a sig, if only something of value could be said with just 120 chars.
  35. How much pay for Amy naked? qjkx by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Talk about a killer app!

  36. Willy Saves the Day Again by LPetrazickis · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's Shinney Metal Ass! Do you want to get sued, boy?:)

    --
    Is this a sigs-optional kind of place? 'Cause I am totally down with that if you know what I mean.
    1. Re:Willy Saves the Day Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry; slashdot DELIVERATELY misspels things, just so they won't get sued ("shiney" my arse...). Folow my exampel and you too can avoid geting sued!*

      * Disclaimer: IANAL, the real ones will sue you anyway, so long as there are people dumb enough to file suits against you.

    2. Re:Willy Saves the Day Again by vr · · Score: 2

      [a chainsaw noise is heard]
      Bart: Hey! I found a shortcut through your hedge maze.
      Willy: Why you little --
      [thinking] No, no, go easy on the wee one. His father's going
      to go crazy and chop 'em all into haggis!
      Bart: What's haggis?
      Willy: [gasps] Boy...you read my thoughts! You've got the Shinning.
      Bart: You mean "Shining".
      Willy: [sotto voce] Shh! You want to get sued?
      Now look, boy: if your Dad goes gaga, you just use that...Shin of
      yours to call me and I'll come a running. But don't be reading
      my mind between four and five. That's Willy's time!

  37. Re:New game by Guipo · · Score: 0

    just casue i've never been able to figure it out, what is a beowulf?

    on another note, I wonder if this will have the notority of other simpsons games. I just cant remember what they are called.

    --
    Theonlyuse of monkeys is to testthings onthem.Some peoplemay say"Hey That'scruel!"and myresponse is"I don't like monkeys
  38. cool company by squarefish · · Score: 1

    sounds like a nice place to work: "UDS is an interactive entertainment developer based in Norrköping and Gothenburg, Sweden. The company was founded in 1993, with an idea of using highly skilled and motivated programmers and artists to make top-notch computer games for Windows and the console market. Today we are 75 full-time employees, all of which are among the best in their respective fields. Almost everyone at UDS has a background on the Scandinavian demo scene. Trust is a keyword here at UDS. We fully trust our employees in terms of both loyalty and competence, and we do everything in our power to make our employees trust us. Furthermore, we have always given our employees lots of individual freedom, combined with a great deal of responsibility. We believe this is the best way to ensure creativity and commitment."

    --
    Creationists are a lot like zombies. Slow, but powerful and numerous. And they all want to eat our brains.
    1. Re:cool company by tabacco · · Score: 2

      If you want a cool company, check out http://www.doublefine.com :)

  39. Super Star Wars? by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 2

    Maybe this will be as difficult as all those simpsons NES games. They were almost as hard as super star wars.

    What are you saying? Super Star Wars was a great game. If only they'd make it into a movie...

    --

    "Accept that some days you are the pigeon, and some days you are the statue." - David Brent, Wernham Hogg
    1. Re:Super Star Wars? by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 2

      What are you saying? Super Star Wars was a great game. If only they'd make it into a movie...

      So you mean 3 solid hours of Luke doing that flip-lightsaber spin? You have wierd taste in movies...

      IIRC, that's pretty much how you beat that game. I never found it that hard.

      On the other hand, Star Wars: Rogue Leader for my GameCube ownz my sorry ass - I must be getting old or the games are getting harder.

      --
      Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.
  40. Oh God! NO by greymond · · Score: 1

    IMHO the simpsons games (I love the show) SUCKED so i'm imagining that the Futurama (good show) Game(s) will SUCK also.

  41. Futurama game by mrjive · · Score: 1

    Dear What-if machine,

    What if life was more like a video game?

    --
    If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten. -George Carlin
  42. All Hail the Video Game by bpfinn · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Hypnotoad commands you to buy the video game.

    1. Re:All Hail the Video Game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The quote on the site is wront. The correct quote is "All glory to the hypnotoad" Please correct this horrible mistake

  43. Star Trek by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 2

    Hmmm, there have been plenty of turkeys but at least a couple of the games based upon the Star Trek universe have been decent.

    Elsewhere, you could make a case for a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle game or two and, for our younger brothers and sisters, various Barney, etc games were probably hours of fun.

    --

    "Accept that some days you are the pigeon, and some days you are the statue." - David Brent, Wernham Hogg
  44. As seen on TV! by phillymjs · · Score: 3, Funny

    To make the Futurama game experience as much like the TV show as possible, the game checks the date and time when it is launched. If the game is launched on Sunday evenings between late September and January, it starts in the middle.

    ~Philly

  45. beowulf by Erpo · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Beowulf, a fictional Scandanavian warrior from the sixth century, is the subject of the oldest known english epic poem. Read it here . Naturally (?), geeks working on clustering computers together to combine their number crunching power decided to name their work after it. I think this may have to do with Beowulf having the combined strength of 50 men.

    I don't understand how you could have trouble figuring this out. The FIRST link that came up when I did a search for Beowulf on google explaned what beowulf means in a clustering context. Elsewhere on the FIRST page there was a link to the translation I linked above. Learn to use google.

    1. Re:beowulf by Theom · · Score: 0

      What's Google? (^&

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      mp3: l33t term for empty.
  46. Game possibilties... by infornogr · · Score: 1

    Futurama: "Wow, I'm watching a really great show."
    Virtual Futurama: "Wow, I could almost swear I was watching Futurama."
    Virtual Virtual Futurama: "Wow, I could almost swear I was watching Virtual Futurama."

  47. What the hell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The ingenious, creative mind of Matt Groening (The Simpsons) now brings arguably his greatest creation yet, Futurama...

    What the hell are you smoking? Futurama sucks. Everyone knows Futurama sucks. No one would argue that it's his greatest creation. Not even you. Come on now...

  48. Bart's Nightmare by EvlPenguin · · Score: 2

    That game kicked ass! Just thinking of it brings up those warm, fuzzy memories. Time to pull out my SNES...

    --

    --
    #nohup cat /dev/dsp > /dev/hda & killall -9 getty
  49. Good news everyone! by Wraithlyn · · Score: 2

    I've invented a new machine that will transform our lives into a video game!

    Fry: Yes! I've always wanted to see an animated version of myself!

    Bender: Oh great. Now I have to deal with the real you AND the virtual you.

    Leela: I want to axe you, will this have stereoscopic goggle support?

    Professor: Heavens no, I'm not a MIRACLE worker.

    Leela: Oh good.

    --
    "Mind, as manifested by the capacity to make choices, is to some extent present in every electron." -Freeman Dyson
  50. let it die /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you can't keep alive what most of the TV
    audience as REJECTED.

    1. Re:let it die /. by sammaffei · · Score: 1

      As deftly as can be said by a "King of the Hill" fan...

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      Political correctness is the newest form of slavery.

  51. Its called Firefly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was always wondering why they cancelled the best sci-fi show on TV. It was the ONLY realistic portrayal of the hellhole that will be future "earth". Anyhoo, I saw firefly and realised that they had absolute no idea for a show... so they ripper Futurama right off. I mean, kick ass chick (leela), cranky tough guy (bender) and existential hero (fry). So, rather than compete against themselves, and lose, they canned the originator of the genre, not the rendition. Could you just imagine the Futurama parodies that would be of that show? Classic!

    Look for it on the next episode.

  52. Poll suggestions: by Darmox · · Score: 1
    Worst TV to videogame ever!
    ( ) Simpson's Road Rage(at least it had some sound clips
    ( ) X-Files game
    ( ) Star Trek ...whatever...
    ...
    Has TV show ever succesfully transferred to a successful, fun video game? I can't think of any.

    For that matter, what about video games becoming TV series? :)
    --
    If I was that drunk, I would have remembered it -- H. Simpson
    1. Re:Poll suggestions: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hows about Earthworn Jim?

    2. Re:Poll suggestions: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was a PC game called 'Virtual Stupidity' that was a Beavis and Butt-head adventure back around 1995. It was actually pretty good. The voices were right, and everything seemed to "fit".

      Besides, they remembered to put in a couple of videos from the series, which is more than I can say for the idiots who produce the official VHS/DVD releases. That's most of the fun of watching the shows - watching them riff on videos!

  53. Leela? eww qjkx by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Amy has the Asian thing going, much better.

  54. You know, there was going to be an Atari hack... by Kris_J · · Score: 2

    ...but it was smacked down so hard by Fox's lawyers that they've basically rewritten history and you can barely find any trace of its existance on the web. I know an Atari 2600 hack of Oink with Futurama characters is a violation of copyright, but I don't have to like the way Fox behaved. I don't know that I'll bother with an official game after that.

  55. This is terrible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I heard about this computer internet worm called slashdot the other day, so I decided to visit their web site... I think it is terrible that someone can put up a proposed victim in a place such as this and you all go and beat it up with such verocious force.

    Even worse, you all then come back here to glee and rejoice your kills.

    SATAN! SATAN!

  56. Re:Why? by GigsVT · · Score: 1

    (too bad Slash is stripping sarcasm tags)

    <sarcasm> Boy, I'm glad you understand how HTML works. </sarcasm >

    --
    I've had enough abrasive sigs. Kittens are cute and fuzzy.
  57. Remember SpaceQuest (Sierra)? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Though there's hardly any information listed about the game, it made me think of that old Sierra game "SpaceQuest".

    It was a graphical adventure game, where you walked around the screen and typed in commands, often having to interact with the environment in real-time.

    (I remember a particularly hard part with a spider, a rock, and an exploding aerosol can or something like that).

    Well, here's to old times spent in front of well-made creative games. Maybe we'll get a good one out of this!

    1. Re:Remember SpaceQuest (Sierra)? by phillymjs · · Score: 2

      Oh, God, I loved all of Sierra's "* Quest" games. A great chunk of my youth passed by while working through many of them. /me gets especially nostalgic for the Police Quest series (sniffle)

      ~Philly

    2. Re:Remember SpaceQuest (Sierra)? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The spider and rock is one quest, the exploding aersol can(?) has nothing to do with it.

      Basically, a robot spider is chasing you, and eventually you reach a point where you can push a rock down onto him. You have to time it just right.

      My guess as to the exploding aerosol can is yet another timing puzzle. You carry a canteen of dehydrated water during part of the game, and to get past a particular enemy, you are forced to through it into his mouth. This of course causes the water to rehydrate, and BOOM, the creature explodes everywhere.

      Totally offtopic, but hey, it was worth reliving my youth. (Now the speed bike ride through the desert, THAT was a hard part. Dodging those rocks was tricky as hell)

  58. You, sir, are very very gay. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Oh god, I hope you aren't a White man.


    Hey, I'm a white man but I would be all up in that bitch in no time! Little John Thomas knows no race when it comes to big tittes.

    1. Re:You, sir, are very very gay. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, I'm known to fuck anything that moves, but even I wouldn't touch that.

      Sick, man.

  59. Re:Game... yay (obscure Simpsons reference) by Mr.+No+Skills · · Score: 1

    I didn't know this show made it past the first season. I'd rather see a PC version of My Dinner with Andre.

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    Sleep is for the Weak
  60. Is it just me or ... by doublesix · · Score: 1

    does the list of completed games these lads have made not really inspire a lot of confidence? Airfix Dogfighter anyone? Hot Wheels Micro-Racers? Great TV show ... s*itball game. Sadly.

  61. (Meta) Avoiding -1, Offtopic by yerricde · · Score: 1

    if moderators would open their eyes they'd see I was responding to the post above mine, not the original topic.

    You're not supposed to respond to the post above yours unless you can tie it to the original topic. (Too bad I can't provide an analogy from Futurama because I'm not a Futurama fan; I have watched a total of oh, about three episodes.)

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    Will I retire or break 10K?
  62. Pray for a GBA version by yerricde · · Score: 2

    except one thing - the lack of it being for pc.

    I saw PS2, GCN, Xbox. So in a way it's on PC. And if they do decide to make a game for the Game Boy Advance, it'll be a drastically different design (due to the GBA's hardware support for 2d but only software support for 3d), but it'll at least be playable on PC with a cart reader and VisualBoyAdvance.

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  63. Futurama quote by z-man · · Score: 1

    Episode "A Bicyclops Built for Two" (S02E13)

    Hermes: Get ready for fun Fry, now a days we have a type of game entirely played on video.
    Leela: We call it a video-game.
    Fry: A video game you say. Well golly gee, you mighty space men of the future will have to show me how it works.

  64. They'd better include "Monkey Fracas" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The odd thing is - if you search for "Monkey Fracas", you'll actually find a version of it out there created by some fan with too much time on his hands.

    Some of the other games from the show have been created in a similar fashion.

    I used to think those guys from the Itchy and Scratchy and Poochie episode of the Simpsons ("magic xylophone") were just an exaggeration - nope!

  65. Might be obstolete by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The note is tagged with a copyright notice from 2001, "©2001 UDS", whereas the rest of the page is "Copyright © 2002 Unique Development Studios".

    Your mileage may vary, but this tells me that a) it isn't a very new announcement, and b) it has probably since been cancelled since we would have heard a lot more by now if it had been in development for over a year.

    So: no new futurama toons on fox=no new futurama gam. Sorry ..

    Penhead

  66. Not so bad an idea by Fyz · · Score: 1

    If Groening swings this right, we might have another quality old-school games we all remember from the old days...

    Ahh, remember Day of the Tentacle?

    "Yes, let's all discuss your promiscuous mother later..." -The Professor

  67. Oh, just come out of the closet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All your homo homies are doing it.

  68. Emmy winner... by sammaffei · · Score: 1

    ...and Fox cans it. 'Nuff said!

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    Political correctness is the newest form of slavery.

  69. Console only! by 5lash · · Score: 1

    "Platform(s): Xbox, PS2, Gamecube"
    Err, has no-one else noticed that this game won't be available on PC? It's really narked me off anyway, i've never owned a console and i never want to.

  70. Last Post! by alpg · · Score: 1

    "It could be that Walter's horse has wings" does not imply that there is
    any such animal as Walter's horse, only that there could be; but "Walter's
    horse is a thing which could have wings" does imply Walter's horse's
    existence. But the conjunction "Walter's horse exists, and it could be
    that Walter's horse has wings" still does not imply "Walter's horse is a
    thing that could have wings", for perhaps it can only be that Walter's
    horse has wings by Walter having a different horse. Nor does "Walter's
    horse is a thing which could have wings" conversely imply "It could be that
    Walter's horse has wings"; for it might be that Walter's horse could only
    have wings by not being Walter's horse.

    I would deny, though, that the formula [Necessarily if some x has property P
    then some x has property P] expresses a logical law, since P(x) could stand
    for, let us say "x is a better logician than I am", and the statement "It is
    necessary that if someone is a better logician than I am then someone is a
    better logician than I am" is false because there need not have been any me.
    -- A.N. Prior, "Time and Modality"

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