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An anonymous reader writes "Seems Lockheed Martin has won a contract to equip future versions of the Joint Strike Fighter with a 100-kW laser. Housed in a dome within the aircraft, the laser's turret would emerge for firing [sound familiar?], and the laser itself is spec'ed to achieve airborne and ground kills at a distance of more than six miles. The problem? According to this Aviation Week article, Lockheed Martin has to figure out how to dissipate 900 kilowatts of heat. Maybe the Finnish airforce could value-add to the OEM model." We mentioned this earlier.
laser weapons, fun for the whole family!
good and good for you.
Yah gotta love 'em!
... really hurt. I hope I did decently.
by hot glue gun.
the end
Can I get mine with extra butter and popped from 6 miles away, please?
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the plot of Real Genius than a star trek episode...
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Val Kilmer needs to step up to the challenge.
Now all they need is a 2-ton bag of popcorn...
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Now is your chance to really know me. I'm going to let you in on my personal life, and the secret of how Jamie, Rob, Jeff, and I all "came" together.
I remember that autumn day so well. It was in our dorm room at Hope College, in Holland, Michigan. Jamie stood there by the bathroom sink, totally naked and shaving his face. He didn't recoil when I went into the bathroom which we also shared with Rob and Jeff--the guys next door.
Jamie and I had been roommates for almost three months now and gotten used to seeing each other strip down, dress, and even "hard".
"Hey, Michael" he said.
I had gotten the chance to look Jamie over a few times. But for some reason that evening I just stood there looking at his scraggly unkempt hair, his bare back, his flabby back muscles flowing down into the lumpy mounds of cellulite which composed his saggy buttocks and thick thighs.
Despite his flab, the sexy swastika tattoo on Jamie's right butt cheek gave him an air of hunky manliness.
"Oh I'm sorry, Jamie" I said without him saying anything despite the fact I had been standing there looking at him.
"I was just ..." he turned and smiled through the shaving cream. "it's OK ... I look at you too, Michael" he said.
I didn't know what to say then. I just moved next to him at the sink and stripped off my shirt to wash.
"Got a hot night tonight, Michael?" he asked.
"Naw just thought I'd go for a swim and pizza later. How 'bout you, Jamie?"
"You keep swimming, Michael, and that hot ass of yours will be the talk of the dorm" he said as he patted my butt. He left his hand there and stroked one ass-cheek a bit.
"You keep doing that and you won't be going anywhere, Jamie" I said half joking. My cock had already began to turn my boxer shorts into a small tent.
He didn't move his hand at all. In fact his fingers moved under the boxers and he stroked bare skin.
Jamie said, "Shit, Michael, I'm getting you hard".
"Yea you get it too hard and you'll have to find a way to get it down again" I said spreading the shaving cream on my face.
His fingers moved between my ass-cheeks and stroked. It felt good ... and then he suddenly stopped.
"Can't now ... maybe when I get back. Will you still
be up then, Mikey?"
His hand had moved to my tented crotch and he gently felt my boner when he asked.
"Not if you keep doing that, Jamie"
We joked around like that often of course. But that evening his attention was more then the usual goosing or ass grabbing.
I swam hard laps so my effort and the water would make my cock shrink. But my head was full of the memories of his petting as well as his naked body.
I knew that after my pizza and maybe a beer, I'd be in my bed jacking off as many times as I could before he got back to the room.
I was mid-way through my second go round when the door opened. He looked at me and smiled.
"I hoped you'd be waiting, Michael" he said as he stripped off his shirt and jeans. We didn't speak. Jamie moved to my bed and pulled my covers off.
Jamie pushed my hands over my head and to the bed pipe. I held them as he lifted my legs and curled my body over so his fingers, lips and tongue could take total control of my body.
I closed my eyes and swooned as the sensations I had only fantasized about made me shiver and shake. Jamie's fingers stroked the lips of my ass then moved inside to find my prostate and stroked that bringing me to the point of orgasm. The sperm splattered on my face, chest, and stomach.
But he wasn't through and his cock moved into my ass before it could recover and close tight after the orgasm. It hurt and made me beg him to stop. "Shut up Michael. You're my bitch", growled Jamie.
Jamie ignored my pleas as he moved on top and pounded down into me, sliding his thick cock against the walls of my guts ... and turned me slowly into his bitch. My begging for him to
stop became moans and pleas for him to fuck me harder.
I had lost control to his will. He fucked me, turned me over and fucked me some more. Jamie brought me to my hands and knees and fucked me even more, his cock didn't want to stop ... and I didn't want him to stop!
I felt the hands on me as the two guys next door--Rob and Jeff--had moved from the bathroom door where they were watching and wanting to join us. He pulled out long enough to allow Rob and Jeff each take their turns.
I was on my back with my legs spread and curled to let each of them move inside. Rob's fingers tortured my nipples, while Jeff abused my cock and balls. My lips encircled their cocks, cocks which wanted to be there.
Jeff, Rob, and Jamie kept using me again and again. Eventually I collapsed in exhausted ecstasy. Somehow I slept, and awoke midday the next day.
Jamie was asleep and our two neighbors--Rob and Jeff--were gone. My ass was sore, but deep inside me I felt a calm peace that I hadn't felt in a very long long time, not since the weekend where as a frosh I was introduced to male on male sex by Timothy, our "dorm daddy". That was the last time I could remember such peace.
Suddenly there was the noise of Jamie jumping from his bed. "You ready, Mikey?" he asked. I turned to see he had gotten out of bed and his cock was rock hard. "We decided to let you rest awhile", Jamie purred. My roommate smiled and then went to the bathroom door. He went inside and returned with the Rob and Jeff. They too still had erections, rock solid erections.
"What the fuh ...", I mumbled to myself.
"It's called Viagra, Michael," said Jamie, "and you are our Viagra bitch". Jeff and Rob stood at attention, casually stroking each others cock. They were like soldiers polishing Viagra hardened gun barrels before battle. They were preparing to jump my bones.
I didn't move away. I wanted to see if it was true what they said about Viagra, and I wanted to find out if it was as wonderful as it was the night before.
All three moved to my bed and resumed to use me again and again until finally I was covered in their sperm. The man-smell of Rob, Jeff, and Jamie, mingled with my own sticky musk. Their cocks, ever hard, kept fucking me until my own body had shot three loads of cum.
It took hours but at the end I was as exhausted, calm, peaceful and satisfied as I had been the night before.
My nickname is now "VB" and you know what that stands for. Several of the guys on our dorm floor knew and when others asked, more found out. Yes, I was, and still am, Michael, the Viagra Bitch.
I would bet that they could rig up some sort of Athelon style heat sink, the air flow over it at Mach 1 should be able to take care of the heat. That seems the be how much air flow is required in my Dual Athelon system here.
---- El diablo esta en mis pantalones! Mire, mire!
Friday night, time to spray a bunch of raid on my DURP and get so Fahahahahahaked up!
From the article:
"To dissipate the heat, cooling loops will be employed to take heat from the laser system and transfer it into the aircraft's fuel tank, where it can be burned away."
I'm no "nuclear genius" but that doesn't sound like the safest proposition to me. I wouldn't want to try dissapating 900kw of heat into my car's gas tank... but, best of luck to you.
-dc
This could be a hell of a weapon system, if they can get it to work right. Also, I wonder what the time period is for the 100KW to be transfered to the target? If this is a pulsed laser, that'd be great, but if its a continious laser, I wonder how well it'll really work against a manuvering aircraft. Still, 5 miles up and destroying ground based vehilces would be a nice way to do things.
Necessity is the mother of invention.
Laziness is the father.
I guess they forgot about the "splash" dammage effet of a "laser". If this device were to hit any sort of reflective material, the potential to permenently blind large ammounts of people is great.
i noticed two problems with the cooling strategy:
1) Tom Burris sites the enormous fuel capacity of the fighter as the coolant for the laser, but they are utilizing an area "used largely for fuel storage in the other variants" to house the laser system, so they are reducing the amount of fuel that can be used to dissipate the heat.
2) you couldn't fire the weapon on a low or empty tank without overheating.
- ian ward
They can use whatever heatsink comes out for those 4 Ghz Pentiums...
bytesmythe
Hypocrisy is the resin that holds the plywood of society together.
-- Scott Meyer
The next-gen JSF would feature a mini-oven and a jacuzzi for the pilot and co-pilot.
1. Make 100-kW laser.
2. ???
3. Profit!!!
For some people, it is an acceptable way to relate to other people. If you don't like them, just kill them. Preferably from a long way away.
It's profitable, too, because the weapons are secret and therefore the profits can be kept secret.
It's an adult video game. Except that you don't get to play. You, if you are an American taxpayer, only get to pay.
There are a lot of people who would like to kill other people if it is free and they don't have to go to prison. For more about this, see What should be the Response to Violence?
Violence tends to cause other violence. Hidden elements of the U.S. government are causing the U.S. to be a target of violence.
Every day in the U.S., it is possible to see American leaders on television calmly discussing the killing of other people. Of course, they have come to believe that they will never be the target.
When do we get the models that fits on sharks?
As powerful as a 900Kw laser is, should they mayhap try focusing on making it produce less heat, rather than attempting to simply funnel it away?
I'm sure they already investigated it, but I'd be looking to more applied material sciences to come up with a cooler-by-design laser, rather than cooler-by-dissipation. Less of a power drain that way too.
I didn't want it on the aircraft,
I wanted them mounted on the sharks!
All I want are sharks with freakin laser beams on their head!
--Dr. Evil.
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[eds. note: in the following text, former FreeBSD developer Mike Smith gives his reasons for abandoning FreeBSD]
When I stood for election to the FreeBSD core team nearly two years ago, many of you will recall that it was after a long series of debates during which I maintained that too much organisation, too many rules and too much formality would be a bad thing for the project.
Today, as I read the latest discussions on the future of the FreeBSD project, I see the same problem; a few new faces and many of the old going over the same tired arguments and suggesting variations on the same worthless schemes. Frankly I'm sick of it.
FreeBSD used to be fun. It used to be about doing things the right way. It used to be something that you could sink your teeth into when the mundane chores of programming for a living got you down. It was something cool and exciting; a way to spend your spare time on an endeavour you loved that was at the same time wholesome and worthwhile.
It's not anymore. It's about bylaws and committees and reports and milestones, telling others what to do and doing what you're told. It's about who can rant the longest or shout the loudest or mislead the most people into a bloc in order to legitimise doing what they think is best. Individuals notwithstanding, the project as a whole has lost track of where it's going, and has instead become obsessed with process and mechanics.
So I'm leaving core. I don't want to feel like I should be "doing something" about a project that has lost interest in having something done for it. I don't have the energy to fight what has clearly become a losing battle; I have a life to live and a job to keep, and I won't achieve any of the goals I personally consider worthwhile if I remain obligated to care for the project.
Discussion
I'm sure that I've offended some people already; I'm sure that by the time I'm done here, I'll have offended more. If you feel a need to play to the crowd in your replies rather than make a sincere effort to address the problems I'm discussing here, please do us the courtesy of playing your politics openly.
From a technical perspective, the project faces a set of challenges that significantly outstrips our ability to deliver. Some of the resources that we need to address these challenges are tied up in the fruitless metadiscussions that have raged since we made the mistake of electing officers. Others have left in disgust, or been driven out by the culture of abuse and distraction that has grown up since then. More may well remain available to recruitment, but while the project is busy infighting our chances for successful outreach are sorely diminished.
There's no simple solution to this. For the project to move forward, one or the other of the warring philosophies must win out; either the project returns to its laid-back roots and gets on with the work, or it transforms into a super-organised engineering project and executes a brilliant plan to deliver what, ultimately, we all know we want.
Whatever path is chosen, whatever balance is struck, the choosing and the striking are the important parts. The current indecision and endless conflict are incompatible with any sort of progress.
Trying to dissect the above is far beyond the scope of any parting shot, no matter how distended. All I can really ask of you all is to let go of the minutiae for a moment and take a look at the big picture. What is the ultimate goal here? How can we get there with as little overhead as possible? How would you like to be treated by your fellow travellers?
Shouts
To the Slashdot "BSD is dying" crowd - big deal. Death is part of the cycle; take a look at your soft, pallid bodies and consider that right this very moment, parts of you are dying. See? It's not so bad.
To the bulk of the FreeBSD committerbase and the developer community at large - keep your eyes on the real goals. It's when you get distracted by the politickers that they sideline you. The tireless work that you perform keeping the system clean and building is what provides the platform for the obsessives and the prima donnas to have their moments in the sun. In the end, we need you all; in order to go forwards we must first avoid going backwards.
To the paranoid conspiracy theorists - yes, I work for Apple too. No, my resignation wasn't on Steve's direct orders, or in any way related to work I'm doing, may do, may not do, or indeed what was in the tea I had at lunchtime today. It's about real problems that the project faces, real problems that the project has brought upon itself. You can't escape them by inventing excuses about outside influence, the problem stems from within.
To the politically obsessed - give it a break, if you can. No, the project isn't a lemonade stand anymore, but it's not a world-spanning corporate juggernaut either and some of the more grandiose visions going around are in need of a solid dose of reality. Keep it simple, stupid.
To the grandstanders, the prima donnas, and anyone that thinks that they can hold the project to ransom for their own agenda - give it a break, if you can. When the current core were elected, we took a conscious stand against vigorous sanctions, and some of you have exploited that. A new core is going to have to decide whether to repeat this mistake or get tough. I hope they learn from our errors.
Future
I started work on FreeBSD because it was fun. If I'm going to continue, it has to be fun again. There are things I still feel obligated to do, and with any luck I'll find the time to meet those obligations.
However I don't feel an obligation to get involved in the political mess the project is in right now. I tried, I burnt out. I don't feel that my efforts were worthwhile. So I won't be standing for election, I won't be shouting from the sidelines, and I probably won't vote in the next round of ballots.
You could say I'm packing up my toys. I'm not going home just yet, but I'm not going to play unless you can work out how to make the project somewhere fun to be again.
= Mike
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It's 2002 people. If we don't get laser weaponry and gauss rifles soon, all of my hopes for the future will be crushed.
if they are gonna put a huge warning sticker on the front of the figher: "Do not stare directly into laser"?
I Am My Own Worst Enemy
a laser you should directly look into.
hah.
Can anyone here shed some light on such a compact yet powerfull system?
Race cars are rated about 700 hp. If they produce 700 hp, then they would be dessipiting about 1400 kW heat (assuming 25% efficiency). So if a tiny car can dessipitate 1400kw, why can't a fighter plane cannot do 900 kw?
Looks like someone skunked you, pal.
Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
In other news, The Department of Defense awarded a billion dollar contract to Intel Corporation to work on dissipating the tremendous heat generated by the lasers. "No big deal", said an unnamed engineer close to the Pentium IV project, "it's just a matter of using a bigger fan."
... of how hot this laser could get? I'm sorry, I'm not the guy you can throw kilowatts at and know exactly how powerful (or not so powerful) a laser like that is.
Don't get me wrong, it sounds cool, but I've yet to hear of a vehicle mounted laser that could do much damage other than filling people's houses with popcorn.
I think Trinity said it best... "Dodge this".
Perhaps somebody could fill me in on the efficiency of modern laser systems, but it strikes me that they're tackling the *side-effects* of a bad design, as opposed to fixing what's wrong in the first place.
Should they not be instead be aggressively persuing high temperature superconductors (and associated compact cryogenics) as a means to avoid generating this kind of heat in the first place? This should make for a vastly more efficient laser design and permit much greater transfer of the full 900kw input electrical energy to offensive energy output.
Why build a 100kw laser when you might be able to have closer to 800kw with a superconductive coil?
By the way, jet fuel doesn't just burn "like" kerosene: Jet A is kerosene. (Though it's my understanding that certain military aircraft use a different fuel mixture than standard transport aircraft; and light aircraft generally use something like 100LL avgas, which is 100-octane low-lead fuel.)
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Dr. Evil: "You know, I have one simple request, and that is to have sharks with freakin' laser beams attached to their heads. Now evidently my cycloptic colleague informs me that that can't be done. Can you remind me what I pay you people for? Honestly, throw me a bone here!" ;)
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...is not the question as much as the answer: not right now ;-)
"Biped! Good cranial development. Evidently considerable human ancestry."
The legendary SR-71 (high altitude mach 3 spyplane) kept the fuel stored at an extremely low temperature in the tanks (sub zero initially I believe), then pumped it through fuel lines running throughout the aircraft. The fuel would absorb the heat from the various internal components of the plane before arriving at the engines.
Would anyone care to explain why they are giving out contracts to expand on an aircraft that has YET TO FLY. I have several friends on the project, and the government is STILL using northrups YF22 for the "test bed". Seems kinda premature to give out contracts to improve a design that still doesnt work.
They need a case mod for the JSF. I suggest one of the water-cooled systems; a second non-laser-firing plane can fly alongside with the radiator. Only a few hundred meters of tubing for the water would be needed to connect the two.
Alternatively, mount a gigantic fishtank on top of the aircraft.
I don't remember any of the other weird case mods that have been posted here, for which I'm sure all of you are thankful. :-)
You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
I'd say we should wait and see how the ABL performs before getting rid of the trusty ol' AMRAAM.
Human genome = 3 billion base pairs = 6 GBit. Windows + Office = 20 Gbit. Which is more impressive?
Lockheed Martin has to figure out how to dissipate 900 kilowatts of heat
Just a quick proposal here... perhaps it may be easier to dissipate 9,000 hectowatts of heat with current technology. Even better, I think they could probably dig up a cooling fan from a overclockers outlet that'll dissipate 90,000 deciwatts of heat with ease.
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You ignorant slut! Those are Phase Cannons, which use an entirely different technology than a laser.
Enterprise is NOT Austin Powers. They do not use "LASERs"
That's it! No Xbill for a week, Michael! You must suffer for your non-geekish ways, and suffer you shall!
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Housed in a dome within the aircraft, the laser's turret would emerge for firing [sound familiar?]
I find the suggestion of a Trek parallel humorous. Of course a laser turret that emerges to fire is somehow the visionary genius of a Trek writer. But, I guess whale penises do that too. Oh well...
-Sean
Oh come ON. Anyone with a brain knows this is a rip-off of Real Genius, not Star Dreck V'ger.
"The Crossbow Project--there's no defence like a good offense"
I am constipated! Anyone have any home remedies?
anyone else have images in there head of a joint strike fighter being sizzled with the black spy (insert terrorist of your choice) in a broken down mig one with a mirror hanging off the tail fin grinning in the for ground.
Whats teh deal wit dat microsoft banner on slashdot's main page? hey, i thought we all hated microsoft, or so it seemed!
The problem? According to this Aviation Week article, Lockheed Martin has to figure out how to dissipate 900 kilowatts of heat.
Have they asked AMD for help yet?
Maybe I'm missing something really obvious, but I don't see how it can achieve "airborne and ground kills at a distance of more than six miles" unless the air is clear. Heck, they say they need to do special tricks just to get the beam through the aircraft's own turbulence.
If the laser is powerful enough I suppose it can evaporate the fog, but... let's see, World War II "FIDO" (Fog, Intense, Dispersal Of) installtions used 75,000 gallons of gasoline. I'm not sure just how long those 75,000 gallons lasted, but I don't think it was very long. Let's say an hour. One gallon of gasoline/hr = 100,000 BTU/hr = 30 kilowatts. So a FIDO installation while in operation might have been putting out about 2000 megawatts.
On a clear day, you can kill forever?
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"to get 100 kilowatts of light out, you've got to put a megawatt of electrical power in, so somewhere along the way you've got to deal with 900 kilowatts of cooling," This sentence means nothing to an engineer. Here's why: 900 kilowatts over 1 millisecond is 1/4 of a watthour. A trivial amount of energy to dissipate. Over 1 second, it's 250 watthours, no big deal, but not trivial. Over 1 hour, it's 900 kilowatt hours, a very big deal. Without time, it's just big impressive numbers for the ignorant masses.
"Eve of Destruction", it's not just for old hippies anymore...
The parent was posted 1 minute after the first. Ohhhh that bastard posting the same thing somone else did!
Get a fucking clue.
...Cause that's the difference between the good and bad guys.
...to rapidly dissapate heat by sending an electrical charge through a carrier that is gradually tapering into different alloys of metal? It cools one end while increasing heat in the other. Does anyone know wtf I'm trying to think of?
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I would think the simple solution would be to pump the heat directly to the afterburners so that after firing a laser would could be very easily traced back to your plane (just follow the straight line), you could use the burst of speed to flit away.
"Your superior intellect is no match for our puny weapons!"
Your hairy ass is, in fact, overrated.
It will be quite an effective weapon if put into use, though I think it will be far from what some people are thinking it as being a magic weapon that can instantly disable vehicles from afar. Depending on the type of vehicle, the laser would have to be fired for different amounts of time, possibly long enough to endanger the safety of the attacking aircraft more than usual. Clouds and fog would also absorb some energy if not completely obscure the laser (not to be confused with the refraction caused by air mentioned in the article, cured by adapative optics) at times.
Somewhat unrelated to my main post, I wonder to what degree they intend for the laser to damage vehicles? Are they talking softening of parts of the airframe of an aircraft allowing for aeroelasticity to take its toll, or ruptured fuel tanks?
maybe they should try water cooling.
SCREW FLANDERS
Well, in Sundiver, the book you remember, heat is absorbed and used to generate power for the laser - the key being superefficient power generation, which we don't have today.
air friction at high speeds is a big problem that is why titaninum is used because aluminim would melt
Take notice, all of you overclocking fanatics!
This is your golden opportunity to take that experience in getting an extra 8% performance from your CPU and putting it to use in a cool-as-hell defense application
Your knowledge of conduction, convection, peltiers, and liquid nitrogen cooling systems FINALLY has a greater purpose than bigger numbers at POST and on Sandra!!
"Lockheed Martin has to figure out how to dissipate 900 kilowatts of heat."
;-)
No problem, my overclocked Athlon produces about that amount of heat. Just buy a big CPU cooler
Along, along time ago, in a galaxy not so far away...
There was a small planet called Earth, and on that planet there was an even smaller country called USA that once signed an international treaty that agreed to outlaw the usage of lazer weapons. Do the America government ever honour their obligations?
Once again we have more of this U-S-A chanting. In about 10 years time every country in the world will just be another star on the American flag.
inventing new toys so that the alpha males can kill the innocent
OK - 1 Watt = 4.19 calories
.21 degrees Celcius.
So 900,000 W / 4.19 = 214,797 calories
1 calorie warms 1 gram of water 1 degree Celcius
So 900 Kw would raise 1000 Kg of water
Even if the fuel had half the heat capacity as water, it would still serve as a huge heat sink for the laser.
Pacifist paratroopers yell, "Ghandi!" when they jump.
This project is utter foolishness. If we figure out how to operate a 1mW 6.2 mile laser on a fighter, that makes it portable enough to fit on a truck or tracked vehicle. With a greater percentage of a groud vehicle being able to be committed to power systems, a ground-based mobile laser will be ablt to outpower an airborne version, and likely be a LOT cheaper.
Outranged outgunned outnumbered airplanes are NOT what we want. We are trading decades or our airpower in for a few measly years of SAM and ground strike invulnerability. This direction is NOT smart for us.
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be solved by flying faster and faster? And I mean really fast.
Take a look at the good old Concorde
I totally just got a flashback to austin powers there. I don't know why, it just seems apt.
Dr. evil and his obsession with "LAYSERS" (yes, I did the quote unquote finger thing when I wrote that).
kinda like in the new one where his son gives him the sharks with lasers on their frickin heads.
or the laser that he was gonna use to blow up the earth.
funny shit.
Or how about some food aid? Or what about sending over some real money to be used for education? Did you ever think of that you war mongerers
Where can I get a bbs hosted that has blatantly libelous content outside of the U.S. that doesn't recognize any kind of international libel law? I wanna start some shit bad.
The JSF is designated as the F-35 Thought you'd be interested.
Double Kill!
Head Shot!
JSF is on a killing spree!
graspee
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"Tricia came in here all butt-sprung this mornin', wit' the cheese just a jigglin' here and there. I told the girl her booty be too big and too chunky to wear that dress, but she the Queen of de Nile!"
I had braces for 2 years and could pickup some FM radio stations when I was in certain places in town. Kinda funny for a bit, then REALLY REALLLY FRIGGING ANNOYING. I know that was off topic from the subject, but not to the post I am replying to.
Chemical reactions I think. I don't think there's any electrical system involved--it has to do with a chemical reation directly creating a laser light. But I could be right.
The answer? Libertarianism and the (related) abolishment of intellectual property. IP has limited all forms of science, and weapon control has stifled private research into weapons. Do you think the government has reason to do cool stuff? If these two things happened we'd have both these in a matter of months.
Same thing with the XB70 Valkyrie The Great White Bird
"Heat is the major enemy of speed. Caused by the friction of cutting through the air, heat has limited the top speed of modern aircraft (such as the F-15) far more than power. Beyond Mach 2.5, friction increases at an ever-growing rate (for comparison, an SR-71 operating at Mach 2.2 heats up to about 275 degrees, but at Mach 3.2, skin temperatures rise to almost 900 degrees!). The same aerodynamics that gave the XB-70 so little drag helped minimize heat buildup. The hottest portions of the Valkyrie, her nose and horizontal splitter, reached a temperature of only 625 degrees during Mach 3 flight, with the majority of the XB-70s skin at a temperature of just 450 degrees! Equipment was placed in the fuel tanks, which acted as heat sinks. As the fuel soaked up the heat from the fuselage, it was drawn into the engines and burned away, leaving the cooler fuel behind. At the same time, it had to be replaced with nitrogen gas. The temperatures inside the tanks were high enough that just two percent oxygen would have caused the fuel to burst into flames -- a decidedly undesirable event."
Just 450 degrees?
For some people, this is an acceptable way to relate to other people. If you don't like other people, just kill them. Preferably from a long way away.
It's profitable, too, for a small number of people, because the weapons are secret and therefore the profits can be kept secret.
It's an adult video game. Except that you don't get to play. You, if you are an American taxpayer, only get to pay.
There are a lot of people who would like to kill other people if it is free and they don't have to go to prison. It's a kind of mental illness. For more about this, see What should be the Response to Violence?
Violence tends to cause other violence. Mostly hidden elements of the U.S. government are causing the U.S. to be a target of violence. For example, the U.S. government (taxpayers) spend more than $900 every year for every man, woman, and child in Israel so that Israelis can buy U.S.-made weapons to kill Arabs. It's a way of transferring money from the taxpayers to the weapons makers. It seems likely that this will result in another holocaust; I doubt the Arabs are kidding when they say they will never surrender.
Every day in the U.S., it is possible to see American leaders on television calmly discussing the killing of other people. Of course, they have come to believe that they will never be the target.
I accidentally posted this anonymously before, so here it is now, with my name on it.
Perhaps a tin-foil hat would actually be some use here.
:)
It'll be amusing when finds that you can beat a frickin big "laser" with a fickin big mirror
All planes do. Temperature at high altitudes is usually below 0 C, and naturally they don't waste enegry keeping the fuel warm and cozy.
Fuel-oil and fuel-hydraulic heat exchangers are common and vital to cooling engine oil, gearboxes, and hydraulic systems. The F-16 is a good example of their efficiency since they make external radiators unnecessary. This technique is very old news. (BTW one reason for coloring hydraulic fluid is so that dilution is readily apparent in the reservior sight glass. The next step is sniffing a sample for fuel leaking from a cracked exchanger.)
how to dissipate 900 kilowatts of heat
That's easy. Screw the 100 kilowatts of laser, just nail them with a 900 kilowatts heat ray.
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I think the best part about a country having powerful weapons is their ability to NOT use them. Keeps evil powers in check (of course, evil is a subjective term, but anyways...). Same with nuclear weapons. Einstein basically told U.S. representatives, "yes, splitting atoms will work, but don't do it. It has disasterous consequences." Well, they didn't exactly listen. But I hope the ability to develop new weapons comes with the mindset to not use them.
I would prefer to see these laser weapons go from fighter jets to medical surgery. Imagine the medical uses for this. Small, precise cuts, no sterilization necessary.
Actually, the more difficult problem is keeping the laser focused due to the turbulent boundary layer near the surface of the aircraft. Regardless of how powerful the laser is, if it is not focused, it will not be destructive. All the swirls and eddies of the air flow across the aperture for the laser distort, and therefore defocus the beam.
Actively sensing the state of the flow in order to correct for this is a major challenge from a feedback controls perspective.
Doesn't this new toy violate the Geneva Convention?
Aren't there provisions against blinding weapons?!!!
...really, really big heatsink/dual fan combo?!? It'll work, dammit!
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A 100 kw laser seems ver doubtful.
... when I was undergoing major surgery, under local anesthesia, during part of the procedure a medical laser was used. I asked the doctor how much power his laser output. His answer: I usually run about 5 watts, sometimes as high as 10 watts. Its capable of running up to 60 watts. He then said, "See that hole burned in the concrete wall?" of the surgery center, about a dozen feet away. I looked up. That happened when the service technician accidently operated the laser at the 60 watt setting and aimed it at the wall.
Consider
Unless the surgeon was putting one over on me, it does not seem to take a huge amount of power for a surgical laser to burn tissue, or for that matter, a concrete wall. It is a highly focused beam, of course.
A 100 kw laser seems like (bad pun) overkill. Besides, generating a 100kw worth of electricity is a bit of issue in an aircraft, as well as dissapating a huge amount of excess heat from doing that.
Seems doubtful to me.
But then, perhaps this started from a misquote in the media. Just last week, a Wall Street Journal report wrote that hair dryers run at "18 watts" (She should have said 1,800 watts). But you get the idea.
LFS. Have you built your system today?
Look to the people who make heat sinks for Athlons.
A med-laser? What's that, 5 heat per turn?
The XL engine alone has 10 heat sinks, enough to mount two of those beasts... ; )
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Sigh... I've been watching DoD pour money down these stupid projects for years now. While the Army has been chasing ridiculous mega-howitzers and us dumb jarheads have been forgetting to check the hydraulics on our Ospreys, we've managed to procure a strike fighter that doesn't satisfy any branch's needs.
There's a strange doublespeak going on in military procurement (yeah, I know, what else is new? But this is more than usual): OT1H, everybody is supposed to be stripping down for the "new wars" we'll be fighting -- the Army is re-strengthening the regiment; the Corps is retasking the brigade -- OTOH, we're still purchasing large, centrally maintained, slow, high-tech "warfighting solutions" that were really only supposed to prove our phalli were bigger than the Soviets'.
It makes a little more sense when you remember that procurement for all these systems began ~15 years ago, when it looked like JSFs and 200mm howitzers and Ospreys were a good idea (then again, a non-crashing Osprey would probably be great for brushfire deployments).
But regardless, every dollar that gets spent on Operation Crossbow Redux and other toys is money that doesn't get spent training soldiers how to comb Himalayan caves for crippled one-eyed fanatics on dialysis or Marines how to spot suicide bombers paddling towards battleships in stolen Zodiac boats. I know Marines who still have Korean war-surplus deuce gear... though at least they finally updated last year the 1969 vintage camouflage I mucked around in my whole tour.
Another example of why our decades-long military procurement process is broken.
All's true that is mistrusted
(* Or what about sending over some real money to be used for education? *)
Yeah right. Like the Taliban School of Terror.
The gun systems on the Comanche worked exactly the same way.
Prior art, bitch.
Thermal. Shutdown. Initiated.
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Thats a lot of heat!
900 Kw? That's only about 1200 horsepower.
I wonder if they could dump it into the engine intake air, for a boost? Or just wrap an extra turbopump around a radiator to get an extra couple hundred horses worth of thrust (and a free fan for the radiator) whenever the laser fires.
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The surgical laser may have done this, but it would have been at very close range. You have to remember that the aircraft laser would be operating over distances of 6 miles. That's a lot farther than the surgical, and despite laser focus, probably still a certain margin for losing power. If they want to melt tanks/troops from high altitudes at a distance, they'll need a little more than a high-power surgical laser.
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Does anyone give a F#$@ about this?
Usage of these weapons is actually restricted by international treaty. The reason is that high intensity light systems could be used to permanently blind the foot soldiers, and that is considered unsportsman like warfare. Sorta like the way nukes are considered unsportsman like too! But lasers, like any other bright light, does't just kill people. They can blind them, and permanently too. That is considered to be off limites. Now melting the armor on a vehicle is fair game, and if you happen to be looking in the laser and manage to not get your skin instantly burned (not likely), but you go blind; your fair game cuz you were sitting on an legitimate target (the armor vehicle). But swooping down on populated areas, and then sweaping the crowded areas with bright lights is bad.
The treaty was a bit unclear, and unfourtunatly I don't have the deatials, but as I recall it might be offlimites to use the laser to blind enemy pilots too. As in shining the beam inot he cockpit of the enemy jet! I guess it depends ont he situation, and the combat senarios.... but we are realyl treading new ground here!
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why not just water cool the laser? have a continous flow of water like they do on industrial laser, the h2o could easily be cooled through the ram intake at speeds of a couple hundred mph.. just use thin copper pipes...
How superefficient does it need to be?
All nuclear powerplants are basically steam engines.
This could be a solar steam engine, where the steam is driving a series of turbines that power the laser.
I guess it depends how close to the sun they're getting...
conversely, If you look closely at rocket nozzles, you will see rings abound. these rings carry liquid O2 / H2 and heat them up (via the exhaust) before the enter the combustion chamber.
(back ot the subject)
as far as the laser is concerned, automobiles routinely rid themselves of that much heat via conventional radiators. I do not see this as a *big* problem, especially considering the atmosphere is about -40 where the aircraft operates. (granted, at a high mach the aircraft heats up due to drag -- in fact SR11 _extends_ 11 inches due to this heat!) -- to back up my claims: a gasoline engine is usually ~20% efficient. with a shaft output of 300HP (your regular sports car) your radiator / exhaust gets rid of ~ 1200HP of heat, which translates to just around 900kw.
My life in the land of the rising sun.
Use a sterling engine.
oh wait thats a dumb idea.
Now I might be a bit of a conservative scientist, but it seems to me in other situatiosn the chance to convert that heat energy into tangabel other forms of energy would be a good oportunity. For example, the heat could be used to warm he jet fuel just prior to it's insertion into the combustion chamber, thus increasing its efficiency of the combustion. Warm fuel burns more efficient than cold fuel!
There also exist gell packs that can absorb heat and convert it to electrical power. Not that the JFS is in short supply of electricity, with its turbo jet engines spinning shafts that then connect to static generators... but wouldn't it be possible to recycle some of the spent power back into the laser?
If heat is such a problem, it would seem to me the laser could only be used in shorts bursts. Like less than a second, and no more than 1-1/2 second.
Not to sound harsh, or critical... but 100 kilo-watts of laser isn't very impressive either. The fun lasers are in the giga-watt range. High megawatt, and gigawatt lasers are used for welding, so I don't see this being much use except to maybe disable the sensor systems, or blind the enemy troops. In fact, I doubt 100 kilowatt is the real spec being used. I would venture that a much more powerfull, and secret, version is being developed.
The best place to stick a laser is on C41 type plane. In other words a big plane that coudl house multiple laser mirrors, and not have to worry about the heat issues sicne they coudl just pass some of the thin air over the heat exchangers. That woudl be a good replacment for the giant gattlin guns used on the place, not to mention replacing all the ammo they need to carry. Laseres, after all, are very reusable!
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I wonder how they're going to avoid friendly fire and by-stander hits. A laser will travel indefinately. If you miss your target, it's going to keep on going until it hits SOMETHING, be it a friendly tank, personnel, a forest, a city or innocent villagers.
It's like a gun that shoots nine bullets backward for every bullet it shoots forward.
Ah, you say, but they'll design the fighter to deal with the heat load. Yes, well, you could wear a bulletproof vest while using the nine-bullets-backward gun; that still doesn't make it a good idea.
There's no denying that lasers are more interesting than bullets and missiles, but I've seen no evidence that they're more useful.
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What kind of rate of fire and target acquisition rate will there be? If they're sufficiently good, this might end up as a point defense weapon(IE: a weapon designed to shoot down incoming missiles) as well.
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Yes, you are right. And if you want a very intense laser, you use a nuclear bomb to pump it. This was part of Reagan's "Star Wars" program.
Another solution would be to store a small
amount of super cooled Beer stored as a Bose-Einstein Condensate. (No matter that they haven't
yet cooled beer to a nano-kelvin yet..)
After you shoot the laser beam at the bad guys,
the heat is shunted to the Bose Einstein Condensate
which becomes Cold Beer!
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But wait, just six months ago, didn't slashdot have a posting about Borealis, whose flagship product (CoolChips) was just tested by Boeing and was shown to be real? MMMMM.. 900 KW of heat, recovered at, oh, %50.. 450kw of power, with which one could do just about anything you like (diode laser array.. plasma manipulation of airflow.. pick something).
I am going to build a giant Laser Beam !
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On a vehicle that uses heated gas expansion for propulsion (fancy name for a jet), It seems like 900kw of extra heat could be used in place of an afterburner.
Just find a fluid that does a phase change efficiently between the melting temperature of the laser's mechanism and say just a little hotter than the jet's exaust plume.
Liquid boron or sulfer ought to do the trick.
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Reflective material for traffic signs has pits shaped like the corner of a cube. 90-degree angles, but three of them instead of two. So, any incoming light makes three bounces and exits more or less exactly back in the same direction from which it came.
The same stuff is used for front projection visual effects as first seen in 2001. A half silvered mirror bounces a projected movie onto the scene, on-axis with the camera. The reflective material bounces the movie back into the camera aperture.
Right, except Brin seems to have this notion that whenever a large laser is fired, it just sorta sucks heat out of the surrounding air to power itself, even without being set up with any special heat-pump apparatus.
True, in Sundiver, he made it sound like there was a special heat-pump setup (though I don't recall him describing it in enough detail to be sure), but in Heaven's Reach, the terrans rediscover the same trick a few centuries later to get out of a vaguely similar situation (and it's strongly suggested that the Galactics hadn't come across it in a billion years). This time, he definitely implies that the laser is sucking up ambient heat, because the brainstorm follows a character saying/thinking something like "wow, that communication laser sure draws a lot of power -- you can feel the room temperature drop a few degrees when you turn it on." Uh, sure, dude.
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Well, it's interesting you should mention whale penises. They "emerge to fire" for exactly the same reasons that this turret would. If they were sticking out all the time, they'd disrupt the animal's streamlined shape, and also could get damaged. Funny how effective natural selection is, really...
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It's like giving someone a nerf gun incase they decide to turn on you.
isnt it ironic, that the israelies are treating the arabs the same way the germans treated the jews? You would think that the jews would be the ones with the utmost wisdom and knowledge and super forsight from history to know that what they should do is intermix, and be as one.
Its all really quite sad, and to hell with it all, its their problem and not ours, and its up to them to fix it. Give the arabs a state, just like the world game the jews a state. If they cant understand it then they are as bad as AH. him self.
Hey, just give a a few E's and LSD to every one and party one that would fix it all.
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There is a very good reason for the ban on weapons which intentionally blind soldiers and it is exactly as you say in your joke-it IS a humane ban.
This kind of bans originally stem from the horrible scenes during the gas attacks during the first world war. During this time chlorine and mustard gas were used in and attempt to break the stalemate in the trench war. As a result large numbers of soliders who survived became crippled or blinded. A number of these solider had to stay blinded and with severe skin and lung damage among the dead in the battlefield before being found, many starved to death before they were found.
Being blinded and left alone in a battlefield filled with enemy soliders, landmines, razorwire and many other threats will often be a death sentence. Compared to being killed instantly by a bomb being blinded without immediate rescue will often be the equivalent of a quick execution compared to torture followed by a random or slow death.
All in all intientionally blinding weapons are not something a civlised society should use even on the few occasions when it is forced into war.
Whether tihs affects the mentioned airplane is another matter.
"The problem? According to this Aviation Week article, Lockheed Martin has to figure out how to dissipate 900 kilowatts of heat."
All they need is an eximer frozen in it's excited state. It's like lasing a stick of dynamite.
Very large power? Portable? Limited firing time? Unlimited range? All you'd need is a large spinning mirror and you could vaporize a human target from space.
Just dump the excess heat into the aircrafts fuel
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via a heat exchanger.
Preheating of fuel gives a really awesome boost to the Jetengine.
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I assume the technology is based on well understood
nonliner optics where a laser can be pumped by a lower frequency beam. At high photon concentration ad double photon absorbtion event can take place where the photons are halft the wave length of the one required for single photon absorbtion. This is normally explained as one photon causing excition to a "virtual" very short lived state which can then absorb the second photon. Note it's still quantinized its just that
most people don't know that the absorbtion frequencies are actually as set 1 1/2 1/4 etc.
Ive never heard of the 1/4 absortion being triggered since that requires 4 photons to be absorbed almost simutanously. I do not know if higher frequences can be halved say double frequence absorbtion I suspect they can.
Any after that long arguement
Infrared is frequency doubled to visible light then dissipated via laser cooling.
What's the point of using an F-35 to pick off infantry troups one by one?
Well! Maybe this will answer that question!
The stuff you wrote above is pure nonsense. Here's my proof.
How many countries did Japan invade before and during WWII? How many people did they torture, murder, experiment on? How many women did they rape until they bled to death?
Now, ever since we took up the sword, and made it our business to kill as many Japanese as we could, and ever since we destroyed their navy, their colonies, and turned two of their industrial cities into smoking glass, how many countries have they invaded? How many people have they tortured and murdered and experimented on? How many women have they raped?
In fact, today, wouldn't you rank Japan as one of the most peaceful societies in the world -- perhaps even more peaceful than the USA? Gee, I wonder why that is... Just 60 years ago, they were considered by all of their neighbors as blood-thirsty conquerors and barbarians. Now they are a peace-loving and kind nation. What happened? Violence happened, in an unprecedented scale.
See, violence IS the answer in certain situations. It was the answer in the Revolutionary War, it was the answer in the Civil War, it was the answer in World War I and World War II, and it will be the answer to some of the world's worst problems in the future. Violence is also the answer to Al Qaeda, Saddam Husseim, and dare I mention it - Hamas and other Palestinian terrorists. Violence -- or the threat of it at least -- brought down the Berlin Wall, and violence is a force that brings North Korea to the tables, and is making China rethink its foreign policies.
Ever since ancient times, man has known that you literally have to fight fire with fire. If a man is terrorizing someone, the best way to handle it is to kick the crap out of him, or to end his life. That is all still applicable today. You couldn't negotiate with bloodthirsty tyrants then, and you still can't today.
The radical sect of Islam would either see you dead or "reverted" to Islam.
You misunderstand the bible. Do you know who or what Molech is?
Let me describe for those of you who don't know.
Molech is a brass idol that is hollow inside. He has outstretched arms. You are supposed to build a fire inside until the entire statue becomes very hot. The way to worship Molech is then to take a baby, preferrably a male, and "pass it through" Molech. That means to put your baby on the searing brass. The baby then is burnt up into charcoal.
There are other gods the natives worshipped, but Molech is the most disturbing.
When God gave Moses and Joshua, and later leaders of the Israelites orders to murder and destroy whole cities, he did for the same reason he flooded the earth: they were beyond help.
You can't convince someone who loves to burn his babies up to change his ways. If you can't change him, what chance does their children have of becoming much better than their parents?
And so, you have to start over, with a clean slate.
Remember, when the Israelites began to serve Molech and the other gods, God sent down disease, destruction, and ultimately brought the Babylonians in to remove them.
Sounds fair to me. God didn't favor the Israelites because they had a cool name -- he liked them because they were a good people. They enjoyed raising their children and building farms, and they despised murder, rape, and baby-burning. When that all changed, God didn't seem to care whether they died or not. In fact, he encouraged foreign leaders to bring their armies down and purge the land from the Israelites.
The radical sect of Islam would either see you dead or "reverted" to Islam.
It seems to me that what you said is not proof, but it is interesting to think about.
The situation with Japan was unusual, it seemed to me, because of General McArthur. He used his power to help Japan rebuild. (My father was one of the U.S. military people who helped in the re-construction.) Basically, General MacArthur was Japan's first democratic leader.
Japan has been peaceful, not because of war, but because of an amazing amount of creative and intensive charity after the war. Also, the Japanese are culturally pre-disposed to accept one strong, fatherlike, leader.
Notes from Google: General MacArthur, the founder of today's 'prosperous' Japan says "... he had achieved countless reforms such as educational reform, farmland reform, zaibatsu dissolution, dissolution militarism, promotion of democracy and tax reform tax reform as well as signing on battleship Missouri. It is no exaggeration to say that he was the founder of today's prosperous Japan."
This article tells a little more: Japan Under American Occupation.
The cultural disposition of the Japanese to accept an older leader helped them accept W. Edwards Deming, an American quality control expert. See History of Japan's Quality movement which says,
"The quality movement in Japan began in 1946 with the U.S. Occupation Force's mission to revive and restructure Japan's communications equipment industry. General Douglas MacArthur was committed to public education through radio. Homer Sarasohn was recruited to spearhead the effort by repairing and installing equipment, making materials and parts available, restarting factories, establishing the equipment test laboratory (ETL), and setting rigid quality standards for products (Tsurumi 1990). Sarasohn recommended individuals for company presidencies, like Koji Kobayashi of NEC, and he established education for Japan's top executives in the management of quality. Furthermore, upon Sarasohn's return to the United States, he recommended W. Edwards Deming to provide a seminar in Japan on statistical quality control (SQC)."
See also, Japan's Secret: W. Edwards Deming.
As I said, the charity toward Japan after the war was extensive , amazingly so.
Christianity should be given some credit here because the idea of being charitable to Japan apparently came from Christian principles. (This is not meant to be a religious statement. It is only a cultural statement.)
The charity was even more remarkable because Japan had had a really, really rotten outbreak of mental illness that causes Japanese to be disliked in countries surrounding Japan even today. There were certainly many reasons why people would allow themselves to feel negative toward the Japanese.
Vent the steam. The F-35 is suppose to be stealthy. Leaving a con trail of vented steam does not help the stealth characteristics.
Neither does a hundred killowatts of laser light. When the laser lights up you're not stealthy - unless you count blinding any light-sensitive sensors nearby as "stealth". When the laster ISN'T lit, you're not generating steam - except for a short time right after you turned it off. With the right design, "short" can be a matter of seconds.
Meanwhile you're already venting a BUNCH of steam - the combustion product of the hydrogen in the jet fuel with the oxygen in the air. Dump a little extra water vapor in the exhaust (mixed with an equivalent amount of input air) and all you've done is slightly increase the amount of your exhaust and reduce the proportion of carbon and nitrogen oxides (of which your steam cooler produces zero, unlike your engines).
You're not going to get rid of your "steam contrail" unless you turn off your engines. The flight characteristics of a fighter jet with no power have been compared unfavorably with those of a manhole cover.
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According to this Aviation Week article, Lockheed Martin has to figure out how to dissipate 900 kilowatts of heat.
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I find it hilarious that Lockheed Martin - at least on their site - positions it's world class hardware and totally lethal vehicle systems (such as the F-22, the JSF, and the F-117) as 'products'. I was looking for an order form and a credit card # line. Would you like a 100-KW laser with that?
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