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Fan-Made Star Trek Episode Available for Download
Minnesota trekker writes "Two Minnesota fans of the original "Star Trek" series spent seven years, off and on, creating an all-new episode in the 1960s style using their own actors, sets and props. Behold, the U.S.S. Exeter (www.starshipexeter.com). The episode's look and feel is amazingly authentic. The story is inventive and the acting surprisingly good. The damn thing, dubbed "The Savage Empire," is actually watchable. The site gives lots of details on how the episode was created, and even more background is available on the Pioneer Press site."
I'm an ACTOR, not a STAGEHAND...
can't wait for the lawsuits to start :P
I'll be in my bunk!
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To the William Shatner school of overacting?
Cannot...seem...to...communicate...with...the aliens...must get...somekindof...resolution before Enterprise...is...destroyed!
This is pretty cool. I remember a similar community effort being discussed several years ago to bring the Timothy Zahn Star Wars sequels to the screen (or to tape, whatever). Never got off the ground, AFAIK.
I am a little worried as to how this will be treated by Paramount. They are notoriously evil when it comes to "protecting" their copyrights, especially when it comes to Trek.
Also, why the Exeter? Is there any reason given as to why the Federation would name a ship after an East Coast prep school with a history of buggery?
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The episode's look and feel is amazingly authentic. The story is inventive and the acting surprisingly good.
Wait a sec. No way it can be authentic to the original and be well acted.
Much of the charm... of the original... Star Trek was... the wooden acting... not to mention the... inexplicable pauses... in William Shatner's... delivery.
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Ingredients:
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5 large Star Trek related Movie Files
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They used their own actors, and it took them seven years? Can you see the people age visibly from one scene to the next? That can't be good for continuity. Suddenly the lead actor has gray hair and put on 20 pounds...
Of course, that kind of thing still wouldn't drop it below the quality of most new shows that issue forth from the bowels of the major networks.
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(The console blows up)
"Red alert, shields up!"
This looks like a plot by Apple who wants to show off their OS X server (it's mac.com..)
What time is it/will be over there? Check with my iPhone app!
Can someone explain to me why webmasters feel the need to embed their movies within their own webpages? Why not just let us download it to our harddrives with a simple right-click? That way (a) people can watch it over and over without added strain on the server and (b) people can distribute the file through other means (p2p, etc.) again saving the webserver. I just don't understand why webmasters make it so difficult to download a movie directly to disk.
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watch this
... that these fellas get laid ALL the time. seriously. chicks dig that shit.
There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
Am I the only one who thought of a scene where the captain opens a hatch to the food reserves, and thousands of video cards drop down on him?
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This is much better than the latest Star Trek movie. And I bet it'll even be more profitable!
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when does the black guy in the red shirt get killed by aliens?
Everyone will start to cheer when you put on your sailin' shoes.
My apologies if this does it in, but here are some direct links to the portions of the movies (i.e., not framed in HTML pages)
Teaser
Act One
Act Two
Act Three
Tag/End Credits
I think the episode would be better if the dialouge and video sound quality was as bad as the shots and sound effects of the original, but man - this is impressive ambition to say the least.
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The adventures of the BCC-1701 Magnetize are in Flash.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
Seriously. I've gotten used to the real Star Trek, where this is rampant, so I just can't watch Star Trek unless time travel is involved. Let me know if they go back in time to chase Klingons or get visited by Borg, and then I'm interested.
What I immediately thought was: cool, people can make fairly decent TV programmes on a tiny budget using the latest digital technologies. It's great seeing people who don't have the backing of the media mega-industry creating their own works. This is just one shred of evidence to add to the list to show that the Internet and open technology is about so much more than centralised shopping and news.
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Then I noticed how long it took them to do it
And it IS quite good, see before the site's saturated and mirror if you can! Now this is the creative power of the Internet, good to see it! And to the people that made the show, good job!
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That what was all this school was for... to teach us how to solve our own problems. -- janeowit
Will I have to wait another 7 years for the conclusion?
Operator, give me the number for 911!
Are there other projects like this on the web?
Just last night, I was thinking about the train wreck that is Star Trek: Nemesis, and thinking, "Ya know, somebody ought to write a different finale for the cast and crew of TNG that would truly do them justice."
Nemesis was far too tame, and far too stale. If I want Wrath of Khan, I'll watch Wrath of Khan.
How many times have we seen the Enterprise run right up to the brink of oblivion, only to save the day and turn everything back to normal in time for the next episode? I think I would have written something that resulted not only in the destruction of the Enterprise, but also the deaths of most (if not all) of the crew in a heroic, personal struggle.
Maybe in a few years one of these fan groups will do TNG justice.
Here are links to directly download the vids, in case anyone hates using a stupid browser plugin:
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http://homepage.mac.com/starshipexeter/teaser.mov
http://homepage.mac.com/starshipexeter/actone.mov
http://homepage.mac.com/starshipexeter/acttwo.mov
http://homepage.mac.com/starshipexeter/actthree.m
http://homepage.mac.com/starshipexeter/tag.mov
"Times have not become more violent. They have just become more televised."
-Marilyn Manson
I predict that the Paramount Legal Away Team will soon be setting phasers on "heavy bitchslap"...
Long time Trek fans will recall that the Exeter was one of the original 12 Constitution-class starships. Others included Constitution (obviously), Enterprise (duh!), York, Potempkin, Hood... that's all I recall off-hand.
The old AMC U.S.S. Enterprise I built with my Dad when I was a bout 8 or so had decals for all twelve ships with appropriate call numbers (NCC-1700, etc).
I'm sure the classic, original Technical Reference Guide, with its silly "20th century equivalent" electronic components probably has a listing, but mine's in a box somehwhere.
p.s. I live in a subdivision called "Exeter".
You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
Is it just me, or the old fashioned klingons were far better vilains that the new ones? I mean, old klingons were cynical, smart, dissimulated, and very dangerous.
But NG's (or motion-picture) style klingons are irracional, fanatic, even dumb, and it's by no way credible that this kind of civilization would ever manage to build any kind of science or engineering.
Note that both know how to be brutal, but the first ones used brutality as a tool for their objectives, and, for the new ones, it's an almost biological characteristic.
I remember that I've read, in a magazine, that the klingons of the 60's represented the enemies of the U.S. in that time (China, USSR), and, the klingons from 80 to date, represented the new ones (fanatics). It may be, but, as vilains, the previous generation of Klingons were way more fun.
Skip over the embeded Quickime and just grab the .MOVs:
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http://homepage.mac.com/starshipexeter/teaser.mov
http://homepage.mac.com/starshipexeter/actone.mov
http://homepage.mac.com/starshipexeter/acttwo.mov
http://homepage.mac.com/starshipexeter/actthree.m
http://homepage.mac.com/starshipexeter/tag.mov
Beat the rest of the slashdotters in getting the movie from the homepage.mac.com site! Then I will rule the geek universe with my advanced knowledge of everything and anything that is Trek related! That will obviously make me have more sex appeal with the ladies, just like Cpt. Kirk!
When you say to your friends, "You know what would have been cool? If they had gone to a planet where...", and they agree, that's normal fan behavior.
When you actually write up the idea you were thinking of in a 200 word concept and share it with your friends, who all like it, that's committed fan behavior.
When you flesh out the concept to a 10 page script treatment, that's borderline wierd fan behavior. If your friends offer revisions to correct continuity errors, that's definitely wierd fan behavior.
When you write out an entire script in three acts and actually perform it with your friends, that's borderline obsessive fan behavior. Defintiely obsessive if you film the process.
When you perform it with homemade costumes, props, etc., and have special effects and a musical score to go with the footage, and then reformat the film as downloadable Quicktime videos for all the world to see, you are ready for film school.
Either that, or the plastic pointy ears you wear to bed every night are cutting off the flow of blood to the brain.
The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them. - Mark Twain
There's just about everything you'd want from a Star Trek episode but the Captain getting it on with a green-skinned vixen down on the planet. Darnit, I wanna see some alien nookie.
"I want peace on earth and good will toward men." "We're the U.S. government. We don't do that sort of thing!!"
... this looks like a derivative work to me.
Well, hey, I didn't spend all those years playing Dungeons and Dragons and not learn a little something about courage.
So I can ask, so, how does it feel to not get laid for 7 years?
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The only way I'm going to watch some grainy, home-produce Star Trek episode if it includes one of those hot 'green skinned' chicks who's wearing a Jennifer Lopez style dress and has an obligatory interpretive dance scene.
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MPlayer works on x86 linux, as does using Quicktime through wine (or, if you'd rather, you can purchase the Crossover product from CodeWeavers).
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I can almost guarantee that this production, however amateur, is infinitely superior to any recent Paramount effort for one simple reason:
The people who made it are passionate about the subject matter.
The best years of Star Trek were when people with a love for the material were in charge of the shows/movies. I'll let the Slashdot crowd argue about when those were, but I think the current failure of Star Trek isn't one of story or budget or marketing: it is one of passion.
Commercial Star Trek is a cheap hustle, fleecing idealistic and naive fans. It's always been that to some extent, but there was once some feeling behind it. Too bad Star Trek fans are now just a demographic to be exploited.
I'm sure many of the comments here will amount to "these guys have too much time on their hands" or "haw-haw, these guys can't get laid," but I say good for them. Criticizing and tearing something down by making snarky comments on the Internet is the easiest and least impressive thing in the world.
Actually doing something is hard. Especially something as eccentric as this. These guys had the passion and the perseverance to make something -- to start a project many people would consider too expensive and time-consuming to bother with, and they saw it through to completion. I have to respect that.
More than once I've heard people say something like "wouldn't it be cool to build some cheap sets and make our own episode of (Star Trek, Star Wars, X-Files, My Mother the Car)", but these guys actually went ahead and did it. Which, despite whatever shortcomings the film project might have, is a hell of a lot more impressive than sitting around talking smack about it.
I watched this a few days ago, actually, and it was fun to watch. The people who made it have a lot of love for their subject matter, and put a lot of work into the little details, which I appreciate. And that big pink dinosaur is a riot -- and as special effects go, still beats the heck out of that "lava monster" Spock mind-melded with in that classic Trek episode.
So I say good for them, and I hope it doesn't take another seven years for the sequel.
This is what the creators will be saying as soon as they see a Paramount Studios IP address in their web logs
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Wow, I thought I was nerd...but after seeing that, I think I'm not to bad after all.
"Things are more moderner than before- bigger, and yet smaller- it's computers-- San Dimas High School football RULES!"
...how big are all the files combined? I am wondering if I even have space for all of them on my old coal burner here, I'd like to get all of them so I can watch it all at once, and thanks for your efforts!
Out of curiosity, what is your exact definition of "parody"?
sic transit gloria mundi
You mean the thing was watchable and should be watchable again as soon as this story is off the front page.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
The damn thing, dubbed "The Savage Empire," is actually watchable.
Not any more...
To make laws that man cannot, and will not obey, serves to bring all law into contempt.
--E.C. Stanton
Paramount is touchy about this stuff. I don't see any evidence the producers got permission -- in fact they claim copyright on the credits page. Permission is easier to get before than after. There are some trademark issues here, too, I think.
One hopes of course that Paramount has a sense of humor and goes along. Technically all that fanfic stuff violates copyright and trademark, too. Paramount should formally give permission to prove it is policing its stuff. Maybe Exeter did get permission and hid it somewhere....
It does look like they did a nice job (which is exactly what possibly gets them in trouble) but what bothers me is the sort of stranglehold on scifi creativity Star Treak has had by virtue of its success. Everyobody seemed to have transporters, "energy weapons", and annoying characters with apostrophes in their names (like ah'Choo or Phtt'tt). It took real creativity to break out of this mold, as in shows like Babylon 5 and Farscape, not that these are perfect (Trek sure wasn't).
Maybe these folks should have gone where no nerd had gone before?
Fanspace, the final frontier.
These are the voyages of the committed fringe.
Their continuing obsession:
to film strange new fantasies,
to seek out new geek prestige and maybe girlfriends,
to boldly go where no fan has gone before!
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intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Although commonly believed to stand for "Naval Construction Contract", NCC doesn't stand for anything at all, according to the StarTrek.com FAQ at http://www.startrek.com/information/faq.asp?ID=13
(there should not be a space in "1365")
The one thing I absolutely *loved* about TOS (The Original Series) was that they had 16:9 displays everywhere. This was ofcourse years before anyone in the electric biz started talking about this format for television sets. ...
Such a shame that feature is missing, and they have the boring old 4:3 display layout. Maybe NCC-1701 was more advanced than any of it's sister ships? It was Starfleets flagship
Wenn ist das Nunstueck git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput.
That joke is always redundant. Always.
Interesting link. If you look at the exceptions, most of them come from words that were borrowed from french, where e before i is the norm..
No, I think these dolts keep a stable of halfwitted tirades around for a quick copy-and-paste. This one lacked the energy or presence of mind to edit "Star Wars" and "George Lucas" references.
If I were going to write a right- or left-baiting comment, I could do a heck of a better job than this. Show some self-respect AC.
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"The damn thing, dubbed "The Savage Empire," is actually watchable."
Boy, with rave reviews like that, I bet these guys are damn glad they spent seven years of their life doing this.
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Aha, Star Trek spoof! For some reason I expected you people to come up with this instead, because that's one helluva funny spoof on Star Trek :)
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I'm now sharing all 5 files on the Gnutella and WinMX networks. In a minute I'll have them on Kazaa too. They're named starshipexeter_actone.mov, starshipexeter_acttwo.mov, etc. I'll leave them up until sometime tomorrow.
And once you've downloaded them, make sure you share them too (if your DL and shared directories aren't the same)!
One thing to note is that Apple is having some .Mac outages today. One has to wonder if those outages are responsible for the slow speeds people are complaining about.
.Mac outages are due to increased demand for this?
Actually, now that I think about it, I wonder if it's actually the other way around - maybe Apple's
My English teacher once told me that two positives don't make a negative. Two words for her: Yeah, right.
the fan that creates a fan movie, or the people who complain about people creating a fan movie?
sitting around telling people to get a life, isn't a life, you know.
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
I knew if I just shut up, someone else would make the point for me. :)
One analytical correction that I only realized recently -- a parody is a derivative work, just a kind that's OK. It's derivative because it uses similar characters or plot elements or whatever. The parody must address and comment on the original in some way; it would not be enough, for example, to parody space shows in general, it has to be Trek specifically if you're going to adopt their material.
Also, you can't use any more material than necessary, and various other provisos spelled out in Campbell v. Acuff-Rose. The basic idea with parody is that you really have to carve out enough space in copyright for free speech to allow criticism and commentary, and maybe a little more. Even if your product clearly did not come from the copyright holder, you still can't get a leg up on their product.
There are some similar rules for trademark. EFF.org and chillingeffects.org have some good materials on this difficult topic that I'm still trying to understand.
I started laughing as soon as I saw their uniforms and ship -- I mean, really. Their problem here is not legal so much as creative.
Here is a typical-sounding C&D sent for what looks like some college kid's fansite. You'd think this sort of this would be irrelevant, but, well...
Sorry, guys, I mean no offense to anybody, but I had to quit watching when the blue dude said, "Commodore Jennings is on line one." ::shudder::
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. . . but they cut me out, in an effort to be as authentic as possible.
So you say they got original story, acting, and direction right, but borrowed the universe in which they were operating to apply all that?
That's exactly the opposite of standard television, where the universe is almost always original but the stories are recycled, the acting is hack, and the direction is preditable and bland.
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Troops is my personal favorite--It's a very funny spoof of Cops with Stormtroopers and Jawas.
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Lean to the left!
Send in the Dueling Batliths!
...well, you get the point.
This has impired a new list:
You might be a redneck Klingon if:
1: any part of your cloaked warship is painted primer
2: You have a shotgun rack on your bridge
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Hi /. crowd,
;-)
I mirrored the movies so everybody can have a look. The mirror is at a site with a 1 Gigabit Uplink and powerfull ZEUS web servers, almost unsinkable
Click here to download the stuff.
Have fun!
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... for fun and refreshing home-made sci-fi. First MST3K, now this. Excellent work, guys!
Keep circulating the tapes.
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http://homepage.mac.com/starshipexeter/actone.mov
http://homepage.mac.com/starshipexeter/acttwo.mov
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http://homepage.mac.com/starshipexeter/tag.mov
The second was a Fourth rate of 60 guns laid down in 1697 and rebuilt in 1740. She won honours off Newfoundland (1702), in the Mediterranean (1711), at Quiberon Bay (1711), and at the Siege of Pondicherry (1748). She was struck from the list in 1763.
The third of the name was a Third rate of 64 guns laid down in the 1760s. She won four battle honours in one year (1782) at Sadras, Providien, Negapatam, and Trincomalee. She was burned two years later after being condemned as unseaworthy.
The fourth Exeter, and the one most likely to be the namesake of the Trek one, was a York-Class heavy cruiser mounting six 8" and four 4" guns that was launched in 1929. She won her honours at River Platte (1939) and the Sunda Strait (1942). After being badly mauled by two Cruisers and a Destroyer (which she sank) at Sunda, she sailed for the Indian Ocean with USS Pope and HMS Encounter, but the three ships were boxed in by five cruisers and eight destroyers and were all sunk in the Java Sea.
The fifth, and current, Exeter is a Type 42 Destroyer launched in 1978. She was awarded an honour at the Falkland Islands and also saw "action" in the Gulf War. She is still in active service.
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If it takes a week to compile a program, you need a new computer. Linux 0.99something only took an hour or two on my 386SX-25, back in the day...more recently, mplayer took maybe 10-15 minutes (I wasn't counting) to emerge on my Gentoo box @ home (Athlon XP 2400).
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Make a whole file of the episode, send it to Paramount and ask them to fund "Star Trek: The lost episodes" and get Paramount on board for funds, these guys did it CHEAP, and produce more of the same based upon fan fiction Paramount has grabbed off the net. Imagine 100 shows more, produced at , say, 500,000 dollars apice , that could net a bunch of money for Paramount and add to the Trek Saga! This way everyone could profit with nary a beowulf cluster to be found! The actors would not get tons of money, but perhpas they would get recognition to further their careers. They would get paid and when they pinched the pennies correctly, winners all around! What say you?
Hey! They got the "Only ship in the quadrant", and "ship full of trainees" thing right too!
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For those looking for a Real Audio Link.
I wish I could give credit to the originial editor of this sound clip but I could not find it. It is a great clip and if you have never heard it before you gotta try it now.
Does anyone have these in a format other than Quicktime?
Something like DivX would be nice.
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
The prime mover of the plot, the "Canopus plague", seems to be a reference to TSR's venerable RPG Gamma World.
If your bitterest enemies are people who hack the heads off civilians, then I would say you're doing something right.
For those who can't get thru to the original site or the mirrors. Just search for "Starship Exeter".
The main htmlified pages are still there, but the big bandwidth sucking stuff seems to be disbaled. From http://homepage.mac.com/starshipexeter/teaser.mov:
.Mac member of this name has either created a page and removed it or has never published a HomePage.
:)
.Mac hosted stuff - I knew this was going to happen sooner or later, I just didn't expect so much sooner.
We're sorry, but we can't find the HomePage you've requested. It's possible that:
The address was entered incorrectly. Check your spelling and try again.
The
etc.
So I hope those mirror sites can stand the load, because they're next on the hit parade!
It's no surprise, though; Apple's quite vague in the allocation of bandwidth for their
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I'm of two minds on the lighting. I think the set lighting was outstanding, the colored gels in the andorian complex gave a very good approximation of that sort of set in the TOS period. I don't think principle lighting was that great, however. Most of the time the Captain (who bore a suspicious resemblance to Shane McMahon, of the WWE, only less fit) looked oddly pinkish compared to the rest of the cast. I can't really tell if that was lighting, or makeup, however. I was impressed by the simulated set for the bridge. If I hadn't seen the chromakey Green in the web sites shots of the command chair, I might not have realized it was composited in the background. I think a good deal of what you describe as blocky directing can be attributed to the limited cinematography options they had for the on-ship scenes, in particular. There are certain things that can be done with a full production rig and set that can't be done easily with mockups and compositing. For what they had to work with, they did a marvelous job of covering up the deficiencies. I doubt someone who was a more casual viewer (I once went to school to do broadcast/film production before I started in the software industry, so I've tried to discount the things that stood out to me only because of my training) would have noticed most of the problems.
"Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I'm fucked."; ~ Donald J. Trump
I'm not much of a fan of TOS, but this stuff is really quite awful, even by TOS standards. Sure, it's impressive enough that a bunch of amateurs can put together a project of this scope, but... Geez, did they even watch the footage before they cut it together?
The Commodore's long-winded speech in the teaser is the lowlight (so far) of the awful acting; the pink monster isn't even funny, let alone believable...
I suppose now's the time to plug my friend's independent superhero comedy short, Dial "A" for Alphaman, which is vastly more professionally acted, directed and shot. If you need some DV edited or a music video shot, call Mike!
they SCUTTLED???
If you want to read of a REAL fighting ship lost in the same location to the Japanese (at around the same time) I'd advise reading about HMAS Perth. There's a decent write up here.
The fighting was so ferocious the Japanese mistook a 6" Light Cruiser (the Perth) for a Battleship.
'There is a Light that never goes out.'
There's something profoundly in keeping with the Star Trek tradition to see the admiral using a teleprompter.
If they didn't know what a slashdotting was before, they sure as hell know now. :-)
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Could someone who managed to get the downloads _please_ post these files over a P2P network or something like Freenet and post the locations/filenames?
For all the P2P talk on
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I won't give up on Firefly yet, despite Fox being a bunch of asschimps for cancelling the show (I guess it is a little too high-brow for Fox, in retrospect)... rather than some fan flicks, I'd rather see fans put effort into saving the series by getting it onto another network like UPN.
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It seems to me this subject has had a tremendous number of posts with scores of 4 and 5. Case in point, the parent and grandparent of this post are both scored as 5 even though they are repeats of other posts up-thread.
/. topics that have the highest average scoring posts?
Not that I'm complaining. But I'm wondering now if anybody has ever done a study of the
I'm thinking this topic would certainly be in the top ten -- if for no other reason than that it is way too damned easy to hit a "5,Funny" by poking fun at what must be the nerdliest act of the past 25 years. I did know a guy in 1980 who was the president of the chess club in HS, a D&D dungeon master, had invented his own language a la Tolkien, and who wore thick black glasses held together with tape. And he never washed his hair. But yet I can't even imagine him parting with his collection of Tron cels to raise the cash to put together this project. Oliver Ardai, where are you?
There are two kinds of people: 1) those who start arrays with one and 1) those who start them with zero.
I went there ...
/.'ed site????
All it said was "Panel Offline"
Another
HallmarkOrnaments.Com
Yeah, I think you probably are.
You are a demigod.
Random question: Was that the same Jefferies for whom the (in)famous Jefferies tubes are named?
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. -- Carl Sagan
That this thing is actually quite bad? The dialogue is rushed, the acting horrible. I wanted to like it. Oh well.
Here's what's got me wondering... They spent seven years tweaking every nuance of this. Why would someone do this? Why?
They're actually trying to tell us something. We could spend our time consuming products we don't need... watching mindless drivel on TV, or we could "do something" by making a cheap knock-off of a cheap TV show from 30+ years ago. Millions of years from now, our society and culture will only be known through the continuing "Star Trek" parodies. For Auld Lang Syne!
Bones! I! Have! Finally! Learned! Punctuation!
~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
When the Klingons first ventured into space they immediately set about conquering every inhabited planet they encountered. Their overly ambitious expansion soon gave them an empire that was difficult for them to rule. As in the Roman Empire, the military forces on the frontier were highly autonomous, and what with the turmoil back home, many of the troops stationed faraway decided to settle down where they were, intermarry with locals and raise families.
After several generations various hybrid Klingon races became common on the frontier, assuming positions of authority and building and crewing their own starships. The first Klingons the Federation encountered were mostly of this type.
During the latter part of Kirk's career, the ruling clans undertook a vast campaign of racial cleansing, demoting or subjugating most of the hybrids. Those with distinguished service records (e.g. Kang) were allowed to take genetic therapy to remove "contaminants," which altered their appearance.
This brief episode of racial impurity, particularly the fact that the hybrids were often superior to pure-blooded Klingons in many ways (better organizers, less psycho) is tremendously embarassing to most Klingons. Hence Worf's extremely tight-lipped reaction -- "We do not speak of it."
...a Troll mod? That was kind of harsh.
Slashdot, home of supporters of free software, free music, and free speech.Except for Moderators that disagree with you.
The Green Bay Packers (the *real* America's Team / F*** You, Dallas!) are from Wisconsin.
For those that would die defending it, Freedom
has a sweet taste that the protected will never know.
Here's the real question: Is the TRM considered canon? I know the U.S.S. Enterprise blueprints from the same era (which are extremely cool) are not.
After that, we can settle the question of "Who is better, Kirk or Picard?"
Then, "What is the one, true religion?"
IDIC,
Rick
You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
here. If you can't handle QuickTime for whatever reason or you just want to burn a VCD that you can pop into your DVD player, you want this file.
20 January 2017: the End of an Error.
"Times have not become more violent. They have just become more televised."
-Marilyn Manson
Random question: Was that the same Jefferies for whom the (in)famous Jefferies tubes are named?
It is indeed. Google has more.
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The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason. --Ben Franklin
These Save Farscape people made an admirable effort to understand and describe the law on derivative works, specifically fan sites. Note that they point out ripoffs like "Ratscape" are also derivative works, odd as it seems.
:)
A nice plain-English effort, conscientious, and intelligently defensive of them. I can't vouch for every thing it says except for SAVE FARSCAPE damn it.
One clear effect of the Web will be to really put fair use through its paces, and to determine new meanings within it.
Valid point - can't anyone convert these files?
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."