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More Anime College and University Courses Being Offered

Ninja Master Gara writes "Anime News Network reports New York University is offering a new courses on the anime industry and culture. Anime is slowly expanding from University Clubs into mainstream college courses, many of which begin at the 'What is anime?' level. Several Universities and Community Colleges already offer similar courses, or incorporate anime into existing studies." If any school decides to offer a course on the Gundam series, I'd be happy to teach a class.

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  1. Bachelor of Arts in Anime coming soon by absurdhero · · Score: 5, Funny

    Imagine what an effective work force we would have if people promptly said "Hai!" and could cheer with "Yatta! Yatta!" :)

    1. Re:Bachelor of Arts in Anime coming soon by pragma_x · · Score: 5, Interesting

      When I was in college (www.vt.edu) a few years back, I attended some of the local anime clubs from time to time.

      I say some because there were three total university recgonized, bona-fide, clubs at that school. They each had separate meetings, which mostly comprised of 6-hour long screenings of non-stop anime. That's 18-hours a week, of nothing but the best in Japanese sci-fi, drama, comedy, fantasy and the occasional kids show.

      Now was was really interesting about all this interest in Anime, was not the shows themselves, but rather the interest in Japanese culture they fostered. The clubs featured regular weekend clinics for language and culture courses and interest groups. A few club members even took trips to Japan regularily.

      The fact that universities are starting to recognize this kind of love for culture (not just entertainment) seems like a perfect way to diversify the curriculum. It's about time!

    2. Re:Bachelor of Arts in Anime coming soon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You know, what scares me is that people aren't learning the language to go out and talk to more people. They learn it to go out and watch more anime. It scares me a little.

    3. Re:Bachelor of Arts in Anime coming soon by John,+the+HERO · · Score: 1

      Yeah, kind of pathetic, eh?

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    4. Re:Bachelor of Arts in Anime coming soon by KingTank · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just remember there's much more to Japanese culture than just the parts of it that are infantile, tasteless caricatures of American culture. (like anime)

  2. what about by zephc · · Score: 5, Funny

    what about hentai class?

    "I still gotta take Tentacle Rape 203 next term"

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    1. Re:what about by HungWeiLo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, Hentai 211 is being offered jointly by the Marine Biology department, headed by the world's foremost expert on squids and tentacle molecular structure.

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    2. Re:what about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I submit that any reference to hentai or tentacles in an anime thread has now reached the redundancy level of hot grits, beowulf clusters, et al. It is not now, nor has it ever been funny.

      There is a phenomenal amount of anime that is not only prescient, but superior, in a literary sense, to just about any mainstream entertainment this sorry-ass culture can muster.

      Oh, and for you capitalist types, there are anime franchises that have financially beaten domestic animation beyond recognition so many times, accurate records were rendered impossible decades ago. Think ELEVEN FIGURES. Think fan bases in the HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS.

      Joke's not quite so funny any more, is it, smartass?

    3. Re:what about by 0x0d0a · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I submit that any reference to hentai or tentacles in an anime thread has now reached the redundancy level of hot grits, beowulf clusters, et al. It is not now, nor has it ever been funny.

      I'd say that one of the primary reasons grits and beowulf *are* funny is because of redundancy.

      There is a phenomenal amount of anime that is not only prescient, but superior, in a literary sense, to just about any mainstream entertainment this sorry-ass culture can muster.

      Yes, and there's also hentai -- the US has very few adult cartoons, so it's at least as unusual and conversation-worthy. No one claimed that all anime was hentai -- they just felt like mentioning that rather than whatever lofty Shakespearean anime you wanted them to talk about.

      Oh, and for you capitalist types, ...from a communist type?

      there are anime franchises that have financially beaten domestic animation beyond recognition so many times, accurate records were rendered impossible decades ago. Think ELEVEN FIGURES. Think fan bases in the HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS.

      Yes, Rei and Shinji certainly have quite a bit of brand recognition relative to Mickey. [rolls eyes]

    4. Re:what about by cyranoVR · · Score: 1

      Yes, Rei and Shinji certainly have quite a bit of brand recognition relative to Mickey. [rolls eyes]

      You are a FSCKING dumbass. POKEMON. PIKACHU. DIGIMON. YU-GI-OH. And yes, even (shudder) DRAGONBALL Z.

      'Nuff said.

    5. Re:what about by 0x0d0a · · Score: 1

      Which garners the obligatory first post in nearly every anime thread for no apparent reason other than its existence.

      They don't have to. They just rely on someone yelping "HENTAI!" every time anime is mentioned and passively allow the association to emerge on its own.

      And whenever people talk about downloading pictures from the Internet, the first few posts are usually about porn. It's not a conspiracy aimed at discrediting anime. It's just the way people are.

      Nice. Reductio ad absurdum is the technical name for that logical fallacy. Got anything else besides Mickey, which has been around for what, EIGHTY YEARS? No? How long has Evangelion been around? Oh look, your argument is turning into shit, isn't it? Shame.

      I chose the most popular, most franchised US-based cartoon and the most popular, most franchised anime I could think of. Hmm...I suppose that Dragon Ball might have supplanted it, since it's probably more popular among non-anime types.

    6. Re:what about by 0x0d0a · · Score: 1

      Hmm. I haven't seen anyone watching Pokemon, Digimon, or Yu-Gi-Oh particularly much or owning merchandise for them (with the exception of a Pokemon Game Boy cartridge), but I guess that they could be popular among children. I've seen people watching DBZ...I just thought of Eva because it's what most of the "anime people" I know of universally like.

      OTOH, I have to say that Invader Zim is of higher quality than the top three...

    7. Re:what about by cyranoVR · · Score: 1

      Yah well a lot of "non-anime fans" in their 20s have heard about Eva, but virtually ALL kids under 12 know about pokemon and yu-gi-oh, some probably more so than mickey rat (and I bet lots of those kids have no idea that the anime they are watching is from japan - or that it's called anime).

  3. Re:Anime Is Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Where is my anime course, I want apreciating Ghost in the Shell, and I WANT IT NOW NOW NOW!

  4. Anime Course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The college I attended, Earlham College (www.earlham.edu), offered a course in anime for some years. Unfortunately they stopped offering it a year or two ago. I'm glad to see that course such as this are appearing at other Universities.

    1. Re:Anime Course by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 5, Funny
      Excellent! An anime course. This could round out my course schedule next semester of finger painting, shadow puppets, and nap time. I knew we were paying those big bucks for a college education for some reason: Cartoons! Woohoo.

      Just kidding, calm down all you anime fanatics. If I can watch Star Trek then you can watch cartoons featuring scatily clad Japanese chicks of questionable age. :-)

    2. Re:Anime Course by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 1
      watch cartoons featuring scatily clad Japanese

      Damnit, Slashdot needs an edit-post function. Anyway, take that as you will. Should be scantily, but I'm sure some of them are clad in excrement. It is a geek's fantasy afterall and people have all kinds of fetishes. Ick.

    3. Re:Anime Course by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      What next, a degree in Klingon?

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    4. Re:Anime Course by solarmist · · Score: 1

      There may not be a degree in it, but there are universitys that teach....well at least used to teach klingon as an actual language. Sad, isn't it? But if you're a linguist it's actually a pretty cool experiment.

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  5. Re:RIAA needs to plug the P2P hole at colleges by adamruck · · Score: 1

    thats not anime!

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  6. Re:My initial reaction by NitroPye · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hey Gundam is a very indepth and creative series, there are so many ways to anaylize the gundam universes. Every gundam series has its own message, so good, plus giant fighting mobile suits.. cant get much better then that

  7. "Anime classes at your local tertiary institution" by ATAMAH · · Score: 1, Redundant

    >I'd be happy to teach a class.
    Id' be happy to be in the class. But i doubt i'd make a career out of it - a career which could pay my bills. But thats just me:) And once again - it would be a fun class to attend.

  8. Here's something for the Survey level class by Cyclopedian · · Score: 3, Interesting
    For all you people that want to see the funny part of anime: Dare to be Stupid.

    For the advanced course, I would recommend a mix of Evangelion and Memories (especially Magnetic Rose and Cannon Fodder).

    For the Phd degree, submit a one page dissertation explaining the reason for the plot developments in the Excel Saga.

    1. Re:Here's something for the Survey level class by mao+che+minh · · Score: 2, Informative

      For humor, try "Golden Boy". If you have not seen this series, find it. It's a tremendous paradoy of the worst (or best, if that's your opinion) aspects of anime. My friend showed me this gem about 2 years ago.

    2. Re:Here's something for the Survey level class by Anonymous+Hack · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You know, anime is... mixed. I remember watching some and finding it wonderful. I enjoyed Ghost in the Shell (Kokaku kidotai). Battle Angel Alita (Gunnm) totally blew my mind. But then i watched the ones everyone recommends - Akira, Cowboy Bebop, Evangelion, Ninja Scroll etc... And was seriously underwhelmed. I think the key thing to remember is that anime is a medium, not a genre. There are some that are quite obviously aimed at a younger audience, and some that are obviously aimed at an adult audience, but feel very much like geek porn... It seems like these are the ones that are most popular in the West, which is a bit of a shame.

      For people who see the rapid-fire, rapid-speech, Nintendo-y animes and get turned off, i'd definitely recommend watching a few other things (again, Battle Angel Alita is fantastic). For people who don't like the sci-fi or GIANT ROBOTS themes, there are fantasy ones... It's an interesting scene, though i have to admit i can't understand the people who will eat up just about anything the Japanese animators churn out. It's like music... books. All different.

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    3. Re:Here's something for the Survey level class by gclef · · Score: 4, Funny
      For the Phd degree, submit a one page dissertation explaining the reason for the plot developments in the Excel Saga.


      Drugs. Very powerful drugs. Preferrably hallucinogens.

    4. Re:Here's something for the Survey level class by Satoshi+Harada · · Score: 1

      For the Phd degree, submit a one page dissertation explaining the reason for the plot developments in the Excel Saga

      You could probably submit a blank page & still pass, then :)

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    5. Re:Here's something for the Survey level class by Megane · · Score: 1
      And now it's time for Name that Anime drug!

      • 1) Excel Saga? - crack
      • 2) FLCL? - crack
      • 3) Utena the Movie? - LSD, specifically The Brown Acid
      • 4) Kodomo no Omocha? - Ritalin deficiency
      • 5) End of Evangelion? - LSD
      • 6) Akazukin Cha Cha? - caffiene
      • 7) Cardcaptor Sakura? - sucrose
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    6. Re:Here's something for the Survey level class by IsoRashi · · Score: 1

      Do not forget Dragon Half! It's a shame they only made two episodes of this wonder. If you haven't watched this, pick it up! Now!

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    7. Re:Here's something for the Survey level class by MonkeyDluffy · · Score: 1

      Golden Boy has *real* toilet humor :).

      Most episodes he has to clean the bathroom, and starts thinking about that episodes babe using the toilet as he scrubs it. Weird but really funny.

      -MDL

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  9. fantasy by adamruck · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would have thought anime would have already been part of college, under art somewhere. Kinda like cartoon sketching or drawing, only with a particular style.

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  10. Reminds me of... by Tuxinatorium · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This reminds me of the Star Trek courses that several colleges have had over the years. What a laugh riot. One syllabus I saw was basically watching 3 select star trek episodes a week, discussing them in class, and writing 5 papers analyzing them over the course of the semester. But still, that would be a great way to fulfill a GenEd humanities requirement or whatnot.

    1. Re:Reminds me of... by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 1

      I taught a course on Star Trek and Popular Culture at the University of California at Santa Cruz in Winter 2000. The class dealt with pop/modern culture's influence on Trek (issues of race, gender, etc. in the series) and Trek's influence on pop culture (conventions, letter writing, the Klingon language, etc).

      While it wasn't Shakespeare or high level mathematics, it was a highly academic class, dealing with more than just watching episodes. It was taught like a literature class, with 500+ episodes of 4 series being the canon. Remember, Shakespeare was just entertainment for the masses, and look how it's regarded.

    2. Re:Reminds me of... by matrix29 · · Score: 1

      No different than reading and analyzing science fiction, which was a REQUIREMENT for my FOUR YEAR UNIVERSITY DEGREE. Some Star Trek episodes were written by award-winning authors.

      Or were you just trying to be a smartass?


      Nooooooo....

      This is being a smartass -

      Setting [ In the unemployment office ]

      Employment Clerk: "Just out of college? Now you need to find a job. I see... hmmm... so according to this you majored in ' Star Trek '" (snickers) (whispers to coworker, "Hey Martin this guy majored in college in 'Star Trek' heh! This guy will never find a job.")

      Applicant: "Yes, it was on 'Contemporary Science Fiction Writing Styles' it was a very advanced literary style course."

      Clerk: "Uh, huh... we have some openings for 'Dishwasher' and 'Busboy' and 'Grocery Store Bag Clerk'. They seem perfect for your qualifications heh."

      Applicant: "Excuse me, but I am a published writer. I even have a highly popular website with my writings."

      Clerk: "Ah yes, the highly prized fanfic market. Have you thought of branching out into the highly..." (snickers) "...profitable field of Majoring in Philosophy? Hah!"

      Applicant: "Hey! This is uncalled for. I want to see your boss."

      Clerk: "Uh yeah, sure... I'll call her and explain that a person who attended a Party College and who decided to take a class that is used to round out the character of the student in lieu of the education they should have learned when they were around the age of 6 to 14 years old for their Major college credits and was dumb enough to list it as on their 'Job Skills' when they cannot even seem to hold a regular job while trying to earn extra money with purely fickle entertainment patronage."

      Applicant: "Many writers earn a excellent living supplying stories for this nation's entertainment and educational venues."

      Clerk: "And all artists must either find a patron to prosper otherwise they starve until they find a reliable job to pay the bills. Being a writer may and I stress may be a windfall for those with great talent or those that meet a need, but as the saying goes, 'The invention of the home tape recorder has killed many an aspiring singer's career dreams.'"

      Applicant: "And that is why I am here to get a job. I am looking for white collar work to pay my bills."

      Clerk: "And yet you lack prior experience and a rounded college education suitable for those careers. You also lack experience in the labor industries and learned skills suitable for those trades. Therefore you have to start at the bottom like all of the other kids that just dropped out of high school. Without a patron and a customer base you are more valuable than a high school dropout, but also no more valuable to most companies than any other unskilled labor . Now do you understand my snideness? You jumped into the illusion that following your dream alone would lead to instant fame & fortune and that riches would come easy merely because you have talent. You forgot to gain the well-rounded education that all business leaders earn. You overlooked whether your skills would meet a demand once out of the cradle of high school & college. You never picked a fallback career if your dream job never materialized as you are learning this instant. In this world you either have to find a job or create a job. The moochers on the government teat really do not count. I applaud your striving to better yourself, but I am appalled by the lack of forward thinking you put in your educational opportunities and your lack of experience in the physical labor fields. Many jobs suck, but they pay the bills until you can find a new one."

      Applicant: "My parents said that a man with a college education can always find a job easier than a ignorant dropout."

      Clerk: "Ah yes, that is true except when you fail to actually hold a basic job before seeking a better paying job. Working Fast Food always is difficult, but it teaches humility and gives some character reference on a job application. Your parents paid for your education I assume and you just stuck around the dorm living the college existence of glory and popularity. You are getting the lecture that any career councilor would give you. I was one for 8 years until I decided to get a secure government job and the number of kids that failed to see me even once during their high school and college years just bothers me. Could they not understand that unless they were born into riches they should at least work toward a basic fallback career? To toss their future to the winds on the whims of Fate remains mind-bogglingly horrible to me."

      Applicant: "I see. However, I am an excellent writer and well-read on the internet."

      Clerk: "Big WHOOPTIE DOO! Are your readers paying your bills right now? Are they passing your name off to publishers? Are they sending copies of your work off to the appropriate publishers? Well, let me see... you are still sitting here without a job and still in the class of unskilled labor like any other high school dropout. Trust me, I know my business. I honestly have spent too much time with you already, but I hate to see a fertile mind wasted in the doldrums of aimless daydreaming about becoming the next JK Rowling overnight. Take the bill paying job kid and submit your writings publishers on the side. Who knows? You might make it big, but you cannot pay the bills with dream money. Here is the form so fill it out and the employment agency can find you a working job if available. Sorry, but sometimes the hard truths are the best truths even when learned late."

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  11. At my school... by httpamphibio.us · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I go to Western Washington University in Washington state and the Art History 270 course (India, Japan, China) taught by Momi Naughton takes an entire lecture period to talk about anime with a self-professed anime maniac, whose name I forget. He goes way back to influences such as Hokusai and brings basically the entire span of what we learned in the class and how if affected the development of anime. Quite interesting...

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    1. Re:At my school... by AnimeFreak · · Score: 1

      Was the name of the guy Issac Alexander?

    2. Re:At my school... by httpamphibio.us · · Score: 1

      Possibly... he was asian but didn't have an asian name. Big guy, probabably around 6ft tall.

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  12. You know... by Mac+Degger · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...in the Netherlands, that would be part of what they call a "pretpakket": basically something like a university degree in macrame. It's stupidly silly.

    I heard education in the US sucked, but it's another thing to see it confirmed.

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    1. Re:You know... by SunPin · · Score: 1
      While I'm not as annoyed as the AC, I think you are a troll and you don't know what you are talking about.

      Education, as in kindergarten through 12th grade, certainly has major problems throughout the system but university level higher learning is top-notch, pays well and lures the finest minds in the world into abandoning their home country.

      Even beautiful Western Europe.

      So get a grip, get a clue and get lost.

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    2. Re:You know... by PsychoKiller · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia... just joking.

      In Canada, we call it underwater basketweaving.

    3. Re:You know... by jericho4.0 · · Score: 1

      I would point out the higher education is very expensive in the US, and unavailable to many. In many coutries, university is much more accsesible.

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    4. Re:You know... by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...in the Netherlands, that would be part of what they call a "pretpakket": basically something like a university degree in macrame. It's stupidly silly.

      I heard education in the US sucked, but it's another thing to see it confirmed.


      Yeah, we're all about to pack up and move to the Netherlands for university. Yup.

    5. Re:You know... by nmg · · Score: 1

      No, it's not. Anyone in the U.S. can go to college if they have the grades.

    6. Re:You know... by pmz · · Score: 1

      I heard education in the US sucked, but it's another thing to see it confirmed.

      Well, troll or not, schools in the U.S. are highly varied. For public primary and secondary education (K-12), the quality of the schools is often proportional to the community's property tax income or proximity to a strong university or large industry. I've seen a few public schools in the U.S. that rival private schools in things like science and art. I've seen other schools in the U.S. that are deplorable and barely teach basic reading and math. It all depends whether you are lucky (or rich), but good education does exist in the U.S. if you look around.

      Additionally, the universities in the U.S. (even many state-supported schools) are among the best in the world.

    7. Re:You know... by pmz · · Score: 1

      The same politicians that sold your jobs off through GATT and NAFTA are the same politicians who have to bring a "Made In USA" set around with them just in case they give a speech in a wharehouse where everything says "Made In China".

      Yeah, that incident with the boxes was pretty pathetic. Was was even more sad was how poorly it was covered up. Inspires confidence, it does.

    8. Re:You know... by happylight · · Score: 1

      yea.. you just cant go to school like harvard without the dough

    9. Re:You know... by KH · · Score: 1

      Can't tell if this guy is serious or not...

      I have experiences with university educations in both countries (as well as some others--Japan, Germany).

      I don't find one is better than the other as systems. Both seem to maintain high standards. But of course it depends on the school, teacher, etc.

      One surprising thing about the Dutch university classes: the Dutch students seem to have much shorter attention span than American students. There are classes that are on the schedule 2 hours. But in practice, the class starts 15 minutes after the posted time, and after 45 mins. the class actually started, there is a 15 mins. pose. Then the class ends 15 mins. before the posted time. How many total minutes do we have now? 75 mins. out of posted 120 mins.

      If you'd do that in the States (as a teacher), you'll get a lot of complaints from students. They are paying customers after all.

      By the way, did those colleges/university posted job advertisements for anime classes? I can teach one.

  13. Ought to be an advanced course by Animats · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Understanding anime should be an advanced course for writers and artists. The stylistic conventions are different from Western practice, but not incomprehensible. They can be studied and taught. Read Scott McCloud's "Understanding Comics". (Skip his later Internet book.)

  14. Re:Anime Sucks by adamruck · · Score: 1

    wow... when comments like that get modded to plus 3 informative, something is really wrong.

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  15. Anime As A Valid Cultural Influence by the_mad_poster · · Score: 5, Informative

    Course Description:
    Anime (V33.0709) This course introduces students to the rich world of Japanese animation or anime, its form and style, history, popular genres and themes, major authors, and fan culture. We will explore the popularity of anime in relation to the cultural conditions of contemporary Japan and to the context of cultural globalization which is radically transforming the way audio-visual images are produced and consumed.

    It's kind of nice to see that Anime is finally being recognize, after so many years, for it's massive cultural influences all over the world. It's gone from being a somewhat-maligned form of geek|children's entertainment to a full-fledged industry/art form. I think it would be interesting to see what's up next on the platter? Maybe the entire geek world can be examined for it's influences on modern culture. Think about it this way: someday your kids could be reading literature in school that includes archived Slashdot posts your doing now! Well.. considering how many "hentai tentacle rape" posts are bound to pop up here... maybe not.

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    1. Re:Anime As A Valid Cultural Influence by meringuoid · · Score: 2, Funny
      Anime (V33.0709) This course introduces students to the rich world of Japanese animation or anime, its form and style, history, popular genres and themes, major authors, and fan culture. We will explore the popularity of anime in relation to the cultural conditions of contemporary Japan and to the context of cultural globalization which is radically transforming the way audio-visual images are produced and consumed.

      Exam questions:

      1) What happens in 'End of Evangelion' after Eva-01 is crucified? Why?
      2) Explain the neurological causes of epileptic seizures as induced by flashing lights.
      3) Discuss the role of transvestism and transsexuality in anime and manga.
      4) Explain briefly how you would go about constructing a giant killer robot today, assuming a reasonable level of military funding.
      5) Tokyo has a typical life expectancy of half an hour after anything unusual happens; then it usually blows up. Explain how you would improve civic security to prevent major loss of life in future battles.

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    2. Re:Anime As A Valid Cultural Influence by Satoshi+Harada · · Score: 1

      1) What did happen? I'm as confused as the rest of us.
      2) They are a secret plot to increase hospital funding.
      3) <Insert Ranma, episode 1 summary > <Insert Ranma, episode 2 summary > ... <Insert Ranma, episode n summary>
      4) Hire scientists from the future, get a mystic to power your creation, and super-size it at McDonalds.
      5) This is a trick question. You can't. (Law 11, 2nd Corrllary).

      So, do I pass?

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    3. Re:Anime As A Valid Cultural Influence by Megane · · Score: 1

      6) Discuss the social implications and impact of hundreds of magical girls contacting their mentors every night via bright, vertical shafts of light.

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  16. Re:RIAA needs to plug the P2P hole at colleges by tuba_dude · · Score: 1

    Jeez...That's hilarious. Talk about tentacle rape and then 'plugging the P2P hole.' Accidental humor at it's finest.

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  17. Re:Anime Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Actually, it's BOTH Informative and Insightful.

  18. "New York University is offering a new courses ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hopefully, they are offering a grammar class too.

  19. The prospect of taking a class on hentai... by Peterus7 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Makes me want to go to NYU.

    Hell, the prospect of getting a B.A. in anime arts gives me a warm fuzzy feeling, that will probably contrast nicely to the bitter cold of sleeping in a gutter if I get that degree.

  20. Yup, see in it Austin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    At the University of Texas at *Austin* last fall was a full course focusing on just anime taught by Dr. Susan Napier of the Asian Studies Center there. (Dr. Napier did a guest lecture at Dr. Gossin's course last spring when we taught "Nausicaa" for the second time.) Dr. Napier has been invited as a guest lecturer at Harvard this spring and will be reteaching the anime course there. Yes, they're actually officially studying anime at *Harvard*! (Prepare for hell to free over after classes start there in a few weeks..... )

    As for the complaint about the lack of college level books about anime (in English, that is) that's true. But Dr. Napier has completed her book "Anime from 'Akira' to 'Princess Mononoke'" and it will be out sometime this spring or summer. This will be the first college level analysis/literary criticism of anime available in English.

    1. Re:Yup, see in it Austin... by lvdrproject · · Score: 1

      Ha. I wish someone would call me "Doctor" just for talking about anime. Imagine myself, an expert in my field, travelling the globe to respond to anime emergencies!

    2. Re:Yup, see in it Austin... by Ninja+Master+Gara · · Score: 1

      It's unfortunate she has only reached "Princess Mononoke". I suppose a sequel will be in the works for "Anime from 'Rurouni Kenshin' to 'Zeiram'" Tongue firmly planted in cheek.

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    3. Re:Yup, see in it Austin... by KH · · Score: 1

      Honestly, I'm envious...

      I got a degree in another area of Asian studies (Indic, Sanskrit) and I grew up watching animes in Japan. And someone gets a job for studying animes?

      Perhaps I should start writing a book titled Anime from Norakuro/Sazaesan to Sen-to-Chihiro.

  21. Re:Anime Sucks by adamruck · · Score: 2, Informative

    nothing like donkey cocks to be informative and insightful.... im sorry but im tired of seing anime sucks posts. If you hate it that much, then go to the preferences and check the box labeled anime.

    Saying that it is poorly written or whatever alone doesn't constitute being informative or insightful.

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  22. Re:Anime Sucks by amigaluvr · · Score: 1

    heh yeah right like superfriends or marvel are any better as you say?. I do like the stories but it is the unique artwork that set's anime apart from all other animation. It has style and a 'feel' thats more original than the other load of crock that passes for entertainment

  23. I'll give you one guess . . . by White+Shadow · · Score: 4, Interesting
    From the course at umich:
    A key feature of any episode of Sailor Moon is transformation. Choose one morphing scene from any episode or film version of Sailor Moon. Describe in concrete terms how the animators render this transformation in time and space. ... We want to emphasize that there is no necessarily correct answer for this topic; the success of your paper will lie in its specificity in analyzing the work of the animators, and the argument you mount---no matter how speculative---concerning the relationship of the animation and its probable viewers. ...
    Hmm, let me guess what the teenage boy viewers are thinking when they watch these transformation . . .

    Anyway, it would be a fun paper to write. Although, if I were teaching the course, I would open it up to a transformation sequence from any magical girl anime (Hime-chan's Ribbon, Card Captor Sakura, Saint Tail, Devil Hunter Yohko, etc). It might also be interesting to speculate about why animators decide to use the transformations with such repetition. Is it simply to reduce the amount of new animation per episode or do they think it provides continuity between episodes?
    1. Re:I'll give you one guess . . . by SandSpider · · Score: 1
      It might also be interesting to speculate about why animators decide to use the transformations with such repetition. Is it simply to reduce the amount of new animation per episode or do they think it provides continuity between episodes?


      Here's the easy way to find out. When the transformation sequence happens, do they re-use the frames, or do they show variations on the sequence, such as from different angles and/or incorporating the local terrain? If the former, it's primarily to save animation. If the latter, it's definitely continuity. Not that there can't be some of both, of course, but primarily that test will tell ya.

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  24. it had to happen by Suchetha · · Score: 5, Insightful

    we have had courses in Star Trek, Star Wars, Wine Appreciation and whatever.. but the point is here.. what will this mean for your future..

    i am not arguing that people need not be given a grounding in the arts, far from it.. but lets face it folks, this is POP ART.. i doubt that other than the history of anime, this "course" can teach you anything that you and your friends can't learn by just sitting in front of the tube for a few brews and talking about it..

    the point i am trying to make is that there is a LOT of art history out there.. stuff that people take for granted.. stuff that people don't BOTHER to learn...

    Colleges are offering this kind of course to make you pay for a course that will not mean anything on your transcript (unless you are going into the anime field) and is nothing but grade padding.. in the same vein you may as well take a course in Britney Spears

    don't get me wrong .. i am a big fan of anime.. its just that i think that a college course on it, while cool, would be a waste of money (yours/your parents/your state's) and time that could be better spent (on girls/brews/parties)...

    Suchetha

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    1. Re:it had to happen by Golias · · Score: 1
      I'm with you on this.

      People who can't explain the difference between Dadaism and Surrealism should not be taking this course.

      Nor should anybody who thinks Verdi's operas are Classical music. (They are Romantic, for those of you who failed or didn't take music appreciation.)

      Also, an understanding of animation history, with a focus on Walt Disney, as well as a firm grounding of Japanese theater and culture, should both be prerequisites of a class like this. Teaching a class about anime to incoming freshmen is like teaching a class on rock & roll and beginning with Pearl Jam. Not only is it completely unwarranted, but it fails to provide any real context for understanding.

      A Liberal Arts education is supposed to be about broadening your experience. That goes beyond telling a Sailor Moon fan to watch Akira. It means turning them on to the entire vast history of art, especially Western art, but also the art of other cultures. It means understanding where all this shit comes from, and I don't mean the "Superfreak" samples in "U Can't Touch This."

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  25. Did the author just hit Google with... by KNicolson · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "anime site:.edu"?

    Anyway, I wonder how much they will be teaching what they think anime should be, versus what it really is? I ask as I've read this book on Takarazuka Revue which describes it basically as a hot-bed of azn lezbo tranny pr0n, whereas everyone Japanese who I've spoken to (including my wife, who studied at the associated drama school and college) says it's just fantasy escapism, especially because the average real-life Japanese man is so crap, the otokoyaku[*] provide an idealised view of what men could be.

    [*] Obligatory Japanese word inserted to pretend I know what I'm talking about.

  26. Gasaraki and film in general by frozencesium · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Come on...this series needs a course devoted to it. I mean mechs, spirituality, politics, culture? I'm sure everyone else here will probably either say Lain or Neon Genisis Evangelion.

    of course...the anime art form is something that should be studied. for one, it offers some great content and social/political messages that wouldn't be accepted in "mainstream" media. second, artwork and story telling go hand in hand. after all, isn't that what artwork (of any form) is supposed to do, to speak to the viewer and convey some message/story?

    anyone who flames me saying that hollywierd puts out decent artwork hasn't been to the theaters lately. most of it is tripe. it's entertaining yes, but it's still tripe in an artistic sense. of course there is the rare gem out there, but it's not often that people can (or care to) recognize the difference. for this reason film classes in general (including anime classes) are a way to help people gain some perspective and recognize art for art, and not just art for the sake of entertainment.

    after my first film class i couldn't watch any movie in "pan and scan" anymore. it helped me understand composition, writing, story telling, and substance...something which is lacking in most of the "modern" world.

    -frozen

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  27. Anime's roots by Quanza · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I just wonder how many people realize where the word "anime" really comes from. For those who never knew, `anime' is really just the Japanese-truncated pronunciation of the American word `Animation'. So it amuses me that "anime" now essentially signifies "Japanese cartoons", when in truth everything from Batman to Donald Duck are "anime" as well.

    gotta love how cultures mix and bounce things around.

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    1. Re:Anime's roots by slothbait · · Score: 1

      I love how various anime fans I know go running around using the words like 'bakas' (hurray for pluralizing Japanese words \o/) in the middle of English sentences, squealing at the site of pockey, and insisting that you tack -chan at the end of their names.

      Now if you will excuse me I am off to play me some Arrow Arrow Stomp, it is soooo~ cool because it is Japanese. Or maybe I'll go watch some Haibane Renmei

    2. Re:Anime's roots by MoneyT · · Score: 1

      Maybe you don't realize this, but espesialy as a study of cultural analysis and criticism, Anime and other cartoons are actualy excelent mediums to look at, as well as comics. They actualy give a very good sense of the cultural mindsets and thoughts behind the creators. And since these shows are generaly religiously watched by kids, they in some way or another will shape our kids mind sets.

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    3. Re:Anime's roots by May+Kasahara · · Score: 1

      Actually, the Japanese term "Anime" comes from the French word "Anime", which also means "Animation"...

    4. Re:Anime's roots by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Etymology, that's a funny word. Is it Greek or something?

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    5. Re:Anime's roots by solarmist · · Score: 1

      The japanese Anime is actually from french and in japan it does refer to all animimation, but in the states it only refers to Japanese animation as it is a loan word from Japanese. Just as the "dubbing" in japanese refers to copying, but in English is refers to an audio track. Or "futon" in English is basically a couch bed, but in Japan it's a bed you lay out on the floor.

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  28. How about an official one? by lingqi · · Score: 3, Informative
    anime-juku offers web-based anime production courses in english and japanese.

    they have a trial course that you can try if you got a graphics pad.

    I got the link when I was browsing around studio Ghibli

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  29. You are WRONG sir! by cdf12345 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The fact that it is art is what makes it logical to teach a class on. Early philosophy teachers used popular poetry, and film schools today use feature films as point of example and discussion.

    Why is anime any different. There is a wealth of ways one could approach the class. First you could look at the original artwork, in it's native culture. Then you can look at the citizen's response to it. Or you could examen foriegn audiences and their interest in the genre.

    There is probably a great deal to learn, the best way to become wise is to teach yourself how to think, not what to think.

    "Only when you are looking for them will the Red spades and Black Diamonds appear" - Ray (Christopher Lloyd, Interstate 60)

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    1. Re:You are WRONG sir! by Suchetha · · Score: 2, Insightful
      at the risk of sounding like a troll.. i will say this.. i have nothing, absolutely nothing against studying anime... i study it too (and not just the tentacle rape scenes)... i just believe that you don't need to go to class for this..

      there are enough geeks out there who you can get with and learn (like one of the people who replied to this thread said .. "join the college anime club".. even if you don't have one.. SOMEONE is bound to have anime... watch it with your friends.. sit and discuss over a couple of beers.. if you want to get a background on how other people/cultures see it.. watch it with a japanese exchange student and discuss it with him.. get some foreign students (hell _i_ was a foreign student who was turned from mild anime fan to rabid anime freak by my american friends in college) and watch it with them.. THAT will give you a better view than a class will.. not to mention increase your social life

      Cost of anime videos : $20
      Cost of beer : $20
      Cost of pizza : $30

      Introducing someone to the joy of anime : Priceless
      compare that with spending $800 to sit in a class for a structured lesson.. which would YOU pick?

      Suchetha
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    2. Re:You are WRONG sir! by cdf12345 · · Score: 1

      well, knowing the people who I watch anime with, I doubt there's much I can learn from them, besides their opinions on things.

      I'm betting that if you had a oriental history major teacher teaching the class there'd be a lot to learn, things that your friends and a few beers won't teach you.

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    3. Re:You are WRONG sir! by MoneyT · · Score: 1

      Seeing as how most of us college students pay a fixed rate regardless of the number of classes taken (over 12 hours), why not? YOu fins people with similar interests to you as well as have something to do with your time and you can enjoy going to class.

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    4. Re:You are WRONG sir! by Golias · · Score: 1
      I'm betting that if you had a oriental history major teacher teaching the class there'd be a lot to learn, things that your friends and a few beers won't teach you.

      Too bad that you can bank on nearly every anime class in America being taught either by a pimply TA who is just there to pay off the tuition for the Masters he's working on in English Literature, or else a chubby Film Studies prof who set up the class as a pet project because he's a huge fan of Magic Knight Rayearth. You probably could learn more from your beer buddies, as they have probably read every site that Google could find about Lain or Cowboy Bebop or whatever the hell you are watching, and watched all 27 hours of the bonus features on their DVD boxed sets. Okay, they might not grok the transformation metaphors of their favorite magical girl show and what Sailor Moon has in common with "Hello God, It's Me, Margaret" (quite a lot, actually, but that's a different thread). However, they will probably be able teach you the correct context for using words like "Baka." What more could you ask for?

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  30. I wish... by boola-boola · · Score: 1

    ...that UT had an anime class. I need one more elective credit for graduation. Would be nice, although, I wouldn't know what college they would put it under.

  31. at boston university by minus_273 · · Score: 1

    we have a jaanese culture class that touches on anime :-p

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  32. possible final exam... by ice-nine · · Score: 5, Funny

    Essay question (90 minutes, no open books):
    Explain FLCL.

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    1. Re:possible final exam... by uhmmmm · · Score: 1

      only 90 minutes? you couldn't come up with an explanation for FLCL in that time, let alone try to explain to someone else!

    2. Re:possible final exam... by ruriruri · · Score: 1
      Explain FLCL.

      MU.
    3. Re:possible final exam... by May+Kasahara · · Score: 1
      Just as Evangelion was Hideaki Anno's revenge on the anime industry, FLCL is GAINAX's tongue-in-cheek backlash to the success of Evangelion.

      Oh yeah, and it's also a statement on the US's influence on Japan, but that's another essay ;)

  33. Re:Anime Sucks by CCIEwannabe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Go and get the whole series of NEON GENISIS: EVANGELION , watch it with the 2 movies afterwards and then come back and say anime sucks...

  34. Anime 101 by NeoMoose · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Considering that it can be called a valid art form as any other form of hand-drawn animation is then it's hard to see why there is anything wrong with this at all. In fact, I find it interesting that something like this wasn't already in place.

    Sure, anime hasn't been very mainstream up until recently, but I have seen some absurd art classes in my life. I'm not lying, but I have seen classes advertised as being "Studies of Hungarian Art from the 13th Century". Well, a class on anime can't do much worse, can it?

  35. Great article about the importance of Anime by cdf12345 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    remember this? It was posted on /. a while back

    http://www.kampo.co.jp/kyoto-journal/media/anima te d.html

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  36. Ummm.... ok, tis called talent. by Egekrusher2K · · Score: 1

    Oh, there is a career in anime, you just have to be one of the best. You can't be a mediocre artist and try to get into something big enough to pay your bills with. You have to be top notch, just as with any other form of art.

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  37. Education need not be boring! by Kethinov · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A lot of people see this sort of thing as a huge joke but I don't. Studying something in-depth that revolves around entertainment is really no different than a kind of community service. By being well educated about a specific form of entertainment, you become a better creator of that form of entertainment, improving the quality of life of those who indulge in this entertainment. As such, you help the industry evolve and improve faster. The concept of taking an Anime college course will prove to be quite beneficial to the Anime industry itself, I think.

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  38. I hear the alternative title was by sielwolf · · Score: 2, Funny

    A Bachelor Degree in Waiting Around to Collect Your Trust Fund.

    Give you something to talk about between skiing the Alps and summering in Barbados.

    The Humanities strike again!

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  39. B.A. In Anime by Twintop · · Score: 1

    It looks like Underwater Basketweaving has some competition now.

  40. DeCal by vandel405 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I just want to make a point that I think many people may not be aware of. I'm currently a student at UC Berkeley and we have all kinds of classes like this, from history of video games, stock market course, male/female sexuality, simpsons to 80's pop-culture. BUT, they are all taught by STUDENTS. And the students can teach anything here at UCB as long as they get a faculty adviser. The adviser doesn't really play a part in the course though.

    DeCal stands for Democratic education, it is students teaching students. Don't be confused and thing NYU highered a new Anime history. They didn't, and UCB didn't high LoTR profs or Simpsons ones either, students are teaching these classes...

  41. Finally... by incom · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can fulfill my dream of writting my thesis on why Goku would win in a deathmatch against Superman.

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  42. Damn, i should use the preview button. by vandel405 · · Score: 1

    thing = think high = higher history = historian. ;-D I'm good thing i'm not an english major!

  43. Why are they doing this? by peachpuff · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I could see them offering a course that uses anime as a sort of 'case study' for some real academic field, the way art majors examine a particular period or movement and fit it into their overall study of art.

    Unfortunately, that's not what seems to be happening here. This looks like another pop-culture cop-out course.

    I know people will get upset and point out that entertainment and pop-culture are worthy of study. That's true, but it should be serious study. If you want to teach a 100-level course on pop-culture, keep it broad and stress the basic themes and concepts of pop-culture with a variety of examples. If you want to focus on a specific medium/time-period/region combination, make an upper-level class that takes a specific academic perspective and targets a particular major.

    In other words:
    bad: Sociology 110 -- Sit-coms
    good: Sociology 428 -- Sit-coms and wartime escapism in America

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  44. Basketweaving 101 classes have finally evolved. by Dolemite_the_Wiz · · Score: 1

    What's next?

    Classes on how the banter between Space Ghost, Moltar and Zorak (in a typical Space Ghost Episode) is a crypto facist metaphor for nuclear war?

    Dolemite
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  45. I'm An Expert -- Let me teach!! by Alan+Holman · · Score: 1

    My name is Alan Holman. I'm the head-writer of BANANA CHAN, a web-based series of anime scripts and manga with a plot which is carefully calculated, by me, to use ideas from EVERY anime. I know it seems like a lofty goal, but my innovative scripts are pulling it off quite well, and they tell a unique, compelling sci-fi story about "folding time", and about the evolution of a town and its people. I've been working on this project for more than a year, and the research which I've went through has made me an expert on anime plots -- I've read more plot summaries and scripts than anyone else on the planet!...probably. My point: If anyone is hiring people to teach these classes, don't hire a fan; instead, hire someone like me, someone who has taken the time to make a web-site like my web-site: Banana Chan. Ten episodic scripts are on the site so far, and the story will continue on February 15th. [The second manga is coming sooner.]

  46. "This is the 21st century... by Surlyboi · · Score: 1

    You can major in Gameboy if you know how to bullshit..."

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  47. Im not a big fan of anime but ... by madsenj37 · · Score: 1

    Im am not a film major nor am I an anime fan but I did take a film class about techno thrillers which had Ghost in the Shell as a viewing and topic. This was over a year ago here at UC Santa Cruz by the way. And this year I walked in on another class' showing of what I think was Ghost in the Shell, not too sure, its very possible it was something different because it was a different teacher.

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  48. Re:Stupidest class ever. by D+iz+a+n+k+Meister · · Score: 1

    Mod parent up +1000000 Insightful

    People who take classes in things that interest them, in general, are a waste of taxpayer money.

    People should stick to this:
    1. Go to College.
    2. ???
    3. Profit

    or, my personal favorite

    Rufies, $30
    Cup at the party, $5
    Sex with someone you're too shallow to respect, without their knowledge or consent, priceless

    And before you start bashing the importance of niche entertainment, maybe you should stop and think about how important college sports are to society at large. What would we bet on and think about during classes if we didn't have those forms of niche entertainment?

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  49. Re:Stupidest class ever. by L0rdJagged · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Gee, being called an otaku is a lot like being called a nerd or a geek, isn't it? What's your point?

  50. Answer key? by fenix+down · · Score: 3, Funny

    1) The professor's just hoping one of the students will figure it out so he can steal the answer and publish it.
    2) See the black hole into which everything I learned in Intro to Neurosci went the minuite after the final. All I know is playing the Gundam Wing SNES game made my cousin's kid puke all over the floor.
    3) Will accept: brief history of CLAMP studios, rant about roomate's inability to appreciate Ranma, questioning the sexual orientation of the Inital D character designs without coming off as homophobic, "What the fuck's with Utena?"
    4) Find some orphans, some scientists, Russian or German, some unobtainium, and either harness the power of a minor diety or drug a creepy psychic kid. If nothing happens, draw more Kabalistic symbols on the walls.
    5) Up the budget for the Tokyo Police Cataclysm Division.

    Just pretend I came up with something funny in there somewhere.

  51. Re:sure, this is usefull by gclef · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you're just going to college to get help you get work, why not go to a vocational college? Why waste time with the Ivys? (answering my own question) because there's more to life than just work. Live and look around for a change.

  52. Even We 'Rednecks' have Anim� in college!! by GreatOjisanEthan · · Score: 1

    Greetings, minna!

    This is my first post in here, but spying this subject from a post in AnimeNewsService.com got me over here to share a little something that may spark interest.

    Anyways, I've been volunteering work for the last couple weeks at Eastern KY University (Richmond, KY), running an international student lab class "English Translation Made Real" where I conduct Animé translations from Japanese->English with the help of several Japanese Exchange students and a few Japanese class students.

    It may sound fun, but it is a lot of work, but the benefits are two-way. The students get participation credit for taking the course, and I get translations to the latest animé and manga that I can drum up for translating.

    Because of the classroom environment, the translating process is more laborious, as many students are honing their translation skills, but the care taken seems to bring about more accurate and technically correct translating scripts.

    Anyways, that's my 8 yen. If anyone reading this knows a group or a club in need of translation help, try out what I did, and get a local school to help sponsor a translation class. ;2)

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  53. Re:I bloody well agree! by GreatOjisanEthan · · Score: 1

    Heh... steenkin cowardly anonymous trolls.

    I don't know where you're coming from, but this geek here loves animé, and I'm married to someone who likes it too, and I work two jobs, and volunteer at a local University, as well as assist two animé clubs.

    I also have my drilled-AOL-CDs Mobile in my office, so I know I have a life, and I'm pretty much happy about it.

    "Beeeee ta!" >;2P

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  54. Re:Anime Sucks by MoneyT · · Score: 1

    A note on the eyes. Eyes are one of the most expressive features of the human body. YOu can tell a lot about a person's mood and thoughts merely by watching their eyes. It's very hard to get a series of emotions to come across in small drawn eyes, so they draw them larger to allow more room to show changes.

    You're right, anime is cartoons, just like bugs bunny, and the simpsons, and king of the hill, and the stuff on comedy central. Why is it that just because something is animated it is dismissed out of hand as childish? There are hundreds of ways to convey a story, using the styles of anime is just one of the ways, and certainly no less valid than a live action movie or a syndicated TV show.

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  55. Re:Anime Is Shit by man2525 · · Score: 1

    I'll bite.

    Have you been to any anime conventions lately? Yes, there are a lot of guys (most presumably are more interested in toys than girls). But, my goodness, as anime catches on in the mainstream, there are a lot more cute girls looking very hot in their little cat-girl outfits.

  56. Re:Its not that... by MoneyT · · Score: 1

    Funny, the anime club arround here is composed of roughly a 50 50 split between guys and gals, you just live in the wrong area.

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  57. Mod Up +1 Funny by man2525 · · Score: 1

    May be troll, but still funny.

  58. Hilarious by orpheus2000 · · Score: 1

    What a coincidence, I was just kicking myself last week for not enrolling in the new "Anime: From Akira to Princess Mononoke" class that fulfills one of our Non-Western General electives. It's an irregular course, which is all that we can expect here in Po-Dunk Oklahoma (OU). /me goes back to kicking /me

  59. 'Comic Book Guy' University? by SN74S181 · · Score: 1

    Is it far from coming: "Worst syllabus ever!"

  60. Re:Its not that... by Megane · · Score: 1

    Or they could be showing the wrong anime. Put a little shoujo into the mix, ok? ^_^

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  61. Re:My initial reaction by NitroPye · · Score: 1

    yes I have, in fact most of the time i watch anime is with friends. It makes for good conversation.

  62. Re:I bloody well agree! by NitroPye · · Score: 1

    Hey! I made a AOL cd mobile too. I turned all the aol parts inward though so its just the shiney backs

  63. Re:sure, this is usefull by MonkeyDluffy · · Score: 1
    They might as well have an ass picking class, or a class on boogers. Be just as usefull.

    Well, there are plenty of classes at most colleges and universities that you could say that about. Considering the cost of college these days, many programs could cut their non-essential requirements down, reducing the stay to three years.

    Some will argue that you will end up not getting as well rounded education; but for many that is an expensive luxury.

    -MDL

    Whose favorite college course was a one credit class in IBM 360 assembly language, where we used punch cards to submit our jobs.

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  64. Re:Anime Sucks by afree87 · · Score: 1

    Hahahaha! After reading all the dumb "anime = tentacle porn" comments, this really made my day.

  65. Re:Anime Sucks by Ponta-kun · · Score: 1

    No, you're wrong. Anime = Japanese word for animation. As someone said earlier, Mickey Mouse is as much an "anime character" as Misato from NG:Evangelion or Hyatt from Excel Saga.

    Anime is just a word, which we use incorrectly to refer to animated films/TV shows from a particular country. I will accept anime as being specifically a reference to ONLY Japanese animation when I see it in Webster's.

  66. Re:I am so glad... by Arandir · · Score: 1

    So that's how you get modded down! You poke fun at people majoring in Anime!

    And all this time I've been poking fun at GNU people and getting nowhere. Finally I might get my Excellent Karma down to Trollbait levels now that I know the trick.

    p.s. I would like to apologize to all the Stallmanista's I ragged on over the years. You REALLY do have a sense of humour. It's these Anime nuts that can't take a good ribbing...

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  67. Re:Anime Sucks by excesspwr · · Score: 1

    Main Entry: anime
    Pronunciation: 'a-n&-"mA, 'ä-nE-
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Japanese, animation, short for animEshiyon, from English
    Date: 1988
    : a style of animation originating in Japan that is characterized by stark colorful graphics depicting vibrant characters in action-filled plots often with fantastic or futuristic themes

    from http://www.m-w.com

  68. Re:Anime Sucks by dustman · · Score: 1

    I will accept anime as being specifically a reference to ONLY Japanese animation when I see it in Webster's

    You mean, when you see it here?

  69. Re:Anime Is For Donkeys by man2525 · · Score: 1

    Thanks for at least giving me something to go on this time. I was responding to "Anime is for guys who can't get laid." I thought that you meant there was a lack of resources, mainly members of the opposite sex. That's what I was responding to. Where are your age requirements? The girls I refer to are mostly from animation clubs in colleges and are at least 18. Also, would your cat suit phobia rule out a young Eartha Kitt or Julie Newmar?

    Your first post was pointless, and you didn't make any arguments until this post. Why not just say what you thought the first time? Its closed-minded and inept to assume that everyone will understand your position. Its also cowardice to hide behind insults.

  70. Someone has to ask... by DrCode · · Score: 1

    ...Will this train me to be a Pokemon Master?

  71. Re:Its not that... by frozencesium · · Score: 1

    well, that certianly is the stero type...but in my personal experiance that's not always the case. grated i don't know that many people, but the people i do know that are into anime are geeks. they range in age from college age to their mid 30's. many of them are married with young kids. (not that they let their kids watch much anime due to violence, sex, etc...)

    i think anime is more about a certian culture (geek culture in this case) as opposed to an age group. but that's just an oppinion.

    -frozen

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  72. Introducing people to anime by ChaosDiscord · · Score: 1
    Go and get the whole series of NEON GENISIS: EVANGELION , watch it with the 2 movies afterwards and then come back and say anime sucks...

    If you're going to try and turn people on to anime, I suggest a few things:

    1. Start with something small. Expecting people to watch ten hours of anime before making a preliminary judgement is a bit demanding. This pretty much means stand alone movies or series that hit their stride and show their strength within two or three episodes.
    2. Start with something easy to appreciate. If they're into sci-fi and cool visuals Akira is great, dispite its many flaws (it's what got me hooked). You also can't go wrong with Miyazaki's work. Spirited Away is a good introductory work for people into fantasy and fairy tales. Princess Mononoke is good for those who want something a bit more edgy (but still fantasy). Fantasy gamers seem to like Slayers for humor or Record of Lodoss War for more serious works. For something serious that feels modern (but is sci-fi) Cowboy Bebop is great. If they're likely to be swayed by Serious Art, Barefoot Gen is an excellent look at the life of a Japanese boy coping with life after the Hiroshima nuclear blast. Grave of the Fireflies covers similar terrain, but I haven't seen it myself.
    3. Dubs are best. Unless the newbie you're trying to convert is already a fan of subtitled foreign film they'll likely find subtitles jarring and a turn off.
    4. Never start someone with Eva . Ever. Egad. They'll probably walk out after two hours of childrens television shallow plots and the whining main character. Eva takes too long to get into for a newbie. Of course, if they survive long enough to get into the interesting parts of series they'll feel distinctly cheated by the last two episodes of the original run, best described as "random crap we threw together hoping no one would notice."

    (And to anyone who has suffered through Neon Genesis: Evangelion, Toastyfrog's Neon Genesis: Evangelion Thumbnail Theatre is good for a solid laugh.)

    1. Re:Introducing people to anime by meringuoid · · Score: 1

      And to anyone who has suffered through Neon Genesis: Evangelion, Toastyfrog's Neon Genesis: Evangelion Thumbnail Theatre [toastyfrog.com] is good for a solid laugh. I don't think I've laughed liquids out of my nose for many years, but I just did. That page is extremely cruel and accurate. Now, excuse me while I embark on a 13-hour Evangelithon.

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  73. Re:sure, this is usefull by solarmist · · Score: 1

    If you're a Japanese major, a linguistics major, or even possibly an International Business major with a focus on Japan I could easily see how this would help you to get work. Anime allows you to see a view of Japan that is a little out there, but by being out there it emphasises some of the underlying pricipals that are common throughout all Japanaese life and allows you to see some less commonly used Japanese linguistic patterns, simply because in real life they don't occur that often. Anime is also a great source of mythology or superstision in Japanese culture. So, if you needed to be familiar with Japanese culture it gives you a very convienient way to do so. I would have to agree that outside of a very limited number of majors there would be no use of the class, but that's the same for any major; How many people outside of Math need to know how Game theory works? Or outside of Computer Science how a lexical compiler works? Outside of where they're used a lot of classes are worthless. You need to take everything in context otherwise it loses a lot of it's meaning.

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  74. Re:Anime Is For Donkeys by Zeio · · Score: 1

    I agree with your essay. You are acerbic, and your original post summed up what you explain here. You don't owe them an explanation however.

    I thought this Japanime crap was interesting - high on marijuana. Some kid had it (the lacky-wannabe [the kind you send to get food when hungry] that invariably is present with a group of people get high, Towelie, wanna get high?), it was called Tank Police. It was all full of explosions, metal music. The next day, this bed wetter still wanted to watch it. And I thought it was crap, and knew that last night it was only interesting because it was colorful and had moving objects.

    Its such a marketing scam, and the shit is expensive. And nothing ever happens. It takes YEARS of a series to progress 5 minutes (one kid used to like DBZ and the TV was in the same room as the computer, and that has got to be the worst shit ever, it rips the fabric of space and time).

    Its quite clear to me that people in the computer related sciences who I admire patently don't like anime, or are obsessively geeky in any regard, save maybe the long hair bullshit. I doubt I'll ever see Joy, Ritchie, Thompson or Kernighan at a piece of shit Anime convention.

    I even started to watch Akira [and another piece of shit she said was better was Devil Hunter Yoko or some crap] - some chick that was into Anime begged me to watch it [no, it wasnt worth the hookup, and she was good looking, but a god damn weirdo]. It is crap. Here I am, liking Shawshank Redemption, Sixth Sense, The Godfather, Memento, Dr. Strangelove, Full Metal Jacket, The Usual Suspects, Le Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain, Y tu Mamá También , Like Water for Chocolate, Cinema Paradiso - and here lies this SHIT called Akira. What fucking crap. And you don't even have to direct or cast real living actors, detracting from the complexity, and it sucks so much shit. So, there you have it. Tank Police, Akira, Devil Hunter, Dragon Ball Z, SHIT SHIT SHIT and SHIT. And no, I don't want any suggestions for good anime from nerds, I have a life, a wife, travel plans and many assorted better things to do.

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  75. Anime = $$$ by May+Kasahara · · Score: 1
    I think NYU is very very smart in offering these courses, as they will probably make a mint off of them. Interesting that many of the other continuing ed courses are for topics/software that are "hot" right now (Maya, etc.).

    While there are many of us who appreciate anime for what it is, and even those who have been taught about anime at various points (a My Neighbor Totoro clip that was shown in a character design class I had changed my life, no kidding), there's more reasons behind NYU's decision to offer anime courses than just academic enlightenment.

    It's like my dad once told me: colleges and universities are businesses. And it's also like a Harper's article I once read: colleges are catering more and more to their "customers" desires.

    Not to be cynical or anything, but there are a lot of otaku in the NYC area, and the presence of anime is becoming more and more prevalent every day-- from English-language issues of Newtype to a US version of Shonen Jump (at a convenience store near you!). The real test is if more anime courses are introduced later on, and if they are more focused (i.e., specific themes, comparative analysis, single artists'/studios' works, etc.) and less generalized.

  76. Ivy Leagus and anime by erobinson · · Score: 1

    Hey All, Thought this was funny. I'm currently a sophomore at Dartmouth College, studying anime in the Japanese Department. We have a floating seminar class, Japanese 81, different every year. This year it happens to be an anime course. For the class, we have to watch: Spirited Away Blood: The Last Vampire Perfect Blue Akira etc. The best part: they are featured in the Loews Movie Theatre on campus. Big screen, surround sound (where applicable), and a hell of a lot of fun. What a great class. -E Robinson, 05

  77. Big Eyes by bluethundr · · Score: 1

    Can I ask the really obvoius question (at the risk of being modded down by some hyper-sensitve moderator who lives in his parent's basement and collects star wars toys and has never kissed a girl despite being 38 years old...but I digress)

    Again, I am not being even slighly sarcastic here...why do most anime characters have disrpoportianely large eyes, muscular (for males) and wildly sexual appeareances and child-like facial features? I'm sure that NYU will address these issues. But I am already paying those NYU fuggs $1000 a credit (not even exaggerating!) for my comp sci curriculum and can't afford to take such courses just because they strike my whimsy.

    There HAS to be some reason for this trend, but I just can't figure it out. Any clues?

    By the way...not all moderators are bad. I myself moderate from time to time. The vitriol I expressed in the first passage was a catharsis directed at a moderator who modded down an honest joke as a Troll when that was far from the case. Oh well, you gotta have SOMETHING to talk to your therapist about, right? ;P

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    1. Re:Big Eyes by bluethundr · · Score: 1

      I've noticed in watching the show "Lain" that it has an odd mix of huge eyed characters, and more realistically represented human forms. The title character seems to get "the big eye treatment" as you call it, but it seems that the overall storyline has not much to offer children. As it deals frankly with tragedies such as pre-teens commiting suicide and terrorism and such. So ,it seems like there may be a line as you suggest but it also seems a bit fuzzier than you portray it here.

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  78. Why haven't I seen anything on Robotech by boy_afraid · · Score: 1

    Come on people, ya'll ought to know that Robotech is what opened up a lot of youngester's eyes, including myself. I ought to get a PhD is Robotechnology since I've read every book, seen every video, studied Tirol's history, including the Seeders and Karbarrans. Come on, my server is named SDF-1 and my network domain is Macross. My screen saver and wallpaper are Robotech and I've been playing the Robotech: Battle Cry on my X-Box for weeks now.