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Quickly Filling Up 150GB of Legal Media Files?
Fred Nowicki asks: "If you have ever used the P2P client Direct Connect (or DC++) to find media on the Internet, you know that the best hubs have ridiculous sharing requirements, i.e., over 100GB. It isn't too difficult to amass a collection of 100GB of illegal movies and MP3s with all the crap that's out there, but I'd like to play it straight: I want to collect 150GB of pure legal stuff. So here's my million dollar question: What is the best and fastest way for me achieve this? I want to offer interesting, neat stuff (movies, music, programs, etc.), not just Linux distros, mind you. One thing I've found so far is a mirror of the Prelinger Archives on archive.org, which offers over 37GB of wacky, interesting stuff on divx format (in MPEG-2, it's over 350GB, but that seems like cheating if I take that route). One downside of this site is that it's not a very fast connection (about 50KB/sec through their FTP via my cable modem -- I'd like a throughput of at least 100KB/sec). I've considered mirroring the Gutenberg project, but there are all sorts of redistribution issues with a bunch of their files, and I don't want to go through all that hassle. Come on, Slashdot. Give me some URLs!"
cat /dev/zero > file
Doesn't EVERYBODY have 100gb of 'something special' or is that just me.
Help your fellow P2Pers, do it right, and get real files everyone wants.
... and ask Ken Baker if you can mirror all of the programs and user-made expansions for BG I & II, Icewind Dale etc.. Some of them are pretty large (300MB +)
Jaysyn
There is a war going on for your mind.
Something of this was posted in this recent slashdot story.
So let me get this straight, you want to amass 150GB of free, public domain files, to access even larger repositories of copyrighted material to which you are not entitled ?
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Genomes.
Not quite as interesting a read as a Project Guttenberg book, though.
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Many bands allow taping of their concerts and the redistribution of audience recordings. Lately, the most popular method of distributing these recordings is as .shn files which are a type of lossless audio. A two hour show can be about 1.0 GB so that's one way to fill a lot of space quickly. You can get started at http://www.etree.org. There are many other sites out there that will allow to download SHN shows right from their servers including, for Dave Matthews, http://www.antsmarching.org.
Don't take part in a tainting of a perfectly illegal p2p network. :)
If it's not one thing, it's Steve's Mother
...every possible game and app demo you can. Then you'll most definitely have your 150GB.
SNACKS ARE AWESOME
wget -r http://*
Yeah, I know it won't really work...
There are a lot of free remix sites and whatnot out there. I'd recommend grabbing all you can from some of those, ex: overclocked (seems down atm) has a lot of game music remixes. I know there are also a lot of techno dj sites as well (google for them)
slashdot.sql that should do it, just imagine the social value of all that data.
Got Code?
Mods for first person shooters can be enormous.
http://ns-co.net/ as an example.
You could also have the linux binaries for them.
You could carry Tenebrae, quakeforge, etc. It would
add up eventually.
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You can mirror them, they host demos. Those are really interesting, and not too many people have them. Admittedly, I dont think that it would be the whole 100+ gig you're after, but you could get a good 20-30 that way.
Simple. Homemade pornography is the answer. Film yourself, friends or other consenting adults engaging in wholesome sexual fun. Encode your porn into SVCD format (the most popular format for getting porn and being able to watch it in a standalone player). Pick a suitable quality level for both the audio and video and you'll quickly see that a 1 hour high quality porn should need approximately 4 700MB CD-Rs for distribution over Direct Connect. That's 2.8 gigs per movie. Now you just need to make 36 such movies and you'll be over the 100 gig sharing restriction.
Welll...
It is vastly faster and cheaper to fed-ex a couple large hard drives across the country than to download files over a wire. Just find an archive, send your drives and a case of beer to the maintainers and ask them to copy their archive and send the hard drives back to you.
If you send it priority, you could have your archive in a couple days.
Make your own pr0n. It's easy. It's fun. It fills up 100 GB pretty quick. Check for legality in your jurisdiction.
Those who would give up liberty in exchange for security and DRM should switch to Microsoft Palladium!
I love /. This is the place where I can write a joke comment made in passing critiqued for the quality of the code written within it. Perhaps you should post a follow-up complaining about the uselessness of writing a file with rand() calls?
-Sean
Furthur
http://www.askthevoid.com
look up some DJ Demo Tapes - most of these guys will prolly cherish the thought of lightening theirbandwidth load with further distribution - give attribution in filename
movie trailers which are downloadable will prolly not (C)-free but are gray zone - no one will honesty try to subpoena you because of it, their case would be kinda weak (not sure about that)
look for serious abandonware sites - sites that specialize i software/emulator images that are indeed released by their former makers (mostly inexistant now)
host linux distros (not sure about that)
watch /. and wget/archive the referenced web sites with a distinctive name, then posting a link in the /. discussion with the filename (would be coolest if you had it on several p2p networks)
Most of these are still gray area to some extent. Hard question actually...:)
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The Dead (and several other bands) freely allow the trading of mp3's. Check out www.gdlive.com, if you want. One or two of their monster jams should just about reach 150GB.
I recommened the old "educational" movies, but there's a lot more stuff to be found at archive.org.
"Yeah, well, Dracula called and he's coming over tonight for you and I said okay."
And if you think for one second that the RIAA/MPAA is going to just stop at prosecuting the people on DC that are sharing illegal files, I've got a nice bridge to sell you.
Just as soon as they find all the people that are sharing illegally, then they are just going to say that the people doing all the legal sharing were just doing it to access the illegal content. Not that they can really prosecute without having it on your HDD, but they get what they want in the end. The destruction of the filesharing network.
IIRC, there is a famous old saying by a German about not speaking up when they came for the gypsies and Jews, but when they came for him, there was no one left to speak up. Well, when the legal sharers won't speak up for the others using the network, who will speak up for them when their time comes?
"Luck is what others call skill when they have none." --Phelan Kell
Get some of those 50's movies from archive.org's Prelinger Collection
The "Are you popular" MPEG is 260 MB+
From their terms of use:"Access to the Archive's Collections is provided at no cost to you and is granted for scholarship and research purposesonly."
I share files over p2p, but all i share are music by local artis whos stuff i downloaded from mp3.com, that seems pretty legal to me. The only other stuff i share is some animated shorts that you cant really find anywhere, and some install files for a couple of freeware games.
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
The (mis)conception of a "24-hour trial period" in the warez community comes from various exceptions in U.S. copyright law pertaining to libraries. Warez sites claim that they are "checking out" files to patrons, putting the patrons on the honor system to "return" the files by deleting them. And the warez curators just may be able to pull it off if they disable each download for 24 hours, marking it "Checked Out".
Will I retire or break 10K?
Anime. Unlicensed episodes which are not illegal to distribute because there are no licensees outside of Asia. At 150-200 megs per episode, you'd be able to fit quite a few series into 150GB.
An excellent source for unlicensed anime epsiodes, subtitled in English, is AnimeSuki, where they're downloadable via BitTorrent - you know, the P2P App with Brains. Downloads are usually quite snappy.
As an added advantage to collecting unlicensed anime, it's usually quite fun to watch. The downside is that once a series becomes licensed, you have to stop sharing it. Right now, there are several good series being released. I recommend Naruto, Mahoromatic and Wolf's Rain.
Quality, performance, value; you get only two, and you don't always get to pick.
Instead of actually asking a serious, important or thought provoking question that actually contributes something to this universe.I will ask what has become the standard type of Ask Slashdot Question.
What is the most pointless geeky question I can ask slashdot that will serve no other purpose but get people talking about the banal and irrelevant. My goal is to spend a lot of time and money, hacking something together that really has no purpose other than to amuse my own sad little life, and hopefully impress fellow slashdotters and provide them with funny anecdotes to share around the lunch table - "Hey some guy on slashdot is building a beowulf cluster out of 3000 gameboy advances, and he wanted to know the best colour to get!"
My end goal is to have wasted everybody's time because I probably won't start on the idea, and if I do it will wind up being an unfinished project on my personal website featuring pictures of my cat.
Almost all of the recordings available at overclocked.net (except possibly for some arrangements of Russian folk tunes such as Korobeiniki, labeled as "Tetris" remixes) are derivative works of the songs in video games and thus infringe copyrights owned by (the songwriters who licensed the music to) the video game publishers.
Music videos for major-label recordings that include footage from animated television shows infringe three copyrights: 1. the copyright on the TV show, 2. the copyright on the song, and 3. the copyright on the recording.
Will I retire or break 10K?
Good & Legal music... http://www.furthurnet.com/
Your mind moves quicker than a nun's first curry. - A. Rimmer
game music remixes
Do you have permission from Konami or Sega to distribute recordings of Konami's or Sega's copyrighted musical works? I don't think so. See my other comment.
Will I retire or break 10K?
cat /dev/urandom > /mnt/bigvolume/data.out would be a lot faster and simpler.
It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.
BeyondUnreal.com will be happy to let you mirror all their files (currently 20GB, always growing) so long as you sacrafice your upload bandwidth to the rabid BU visitors (they get alot) and allow them updates whenever necessary.
look up some DJ Demo Tapes
DJ demo tapes usually contain continuous mixes of copyrighted recordings of copyrighted songs, and because there's not as much of an "open source" community in songwriting as in programming, most songs ("song" in copyright law refers to the melody independent of any recording thereof) are not published under a license allowing free redistribution of recordings.
movie trailers
This could work. I'd assume that at least one of the seven major American motion picture studios would be happy to let you mirror advertisements for its movies. Just ask first.
look for serious abandonware sites
Strictly, copyright lasts ninety-five years, but the fact that the copyright owner has allowed the program to fall out of print may constitute an admission that the work has negligible market value, and market value is one of the four primary factors of fair use.
host linux distros
This should work. However, you should look closely at the license for the distribution; some distributions of free operating systems (such as Theo de Raadt's official OpenBSD) copyright the directory structure of the distro CD and do not license it for free redistribution.
watch /. and wget/archive the referenced web sites with a distinctive name, then posting a link in the /. discussion with the filename (would be coolest if you had it on several p2p networks)
This can actually be legal in the USA under the proxy and caching exemptions passed as riders to the DMCA.
Will I retire or break 10K?
Video footage of other disasters can also help you fill up a 150 GB hard disk. Here are some clips of the terrorist destruction of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. Just make sure to ask any identifiable copyright owner before you mirror them on DC.
Will I retire or break 10K?
Use FLAC [xiph.org] and make Perfect CD Quality copies of your CDs and make them available.
"Your CDs"? That only works if you're in a band. Even if the original poster is in a band whose members write their own songs, how many albums has that band released? Divide that by about 4 to see how many GBs that would make up.
And if the original poster is in a band whose members write their own songs, how can they be sure that in writing the songs, they didn't accidentally infringe another songwriter's copyright?
Will I retire or break 10K?
Mirror slashdotted webpages!
every ameture wheel to wheel racer owns a camcorder and each race produces about 100 megs of video. corner-carvers.com usually spits out about 100 megs of unique video each day, and there's links to gigs of good race footage from inside the car on famous tracks (leguna seca, for example). these videos usually get pretty low traffic so it's not uncommon to get > 1 megabit/s off of multiple files.
that's how i spent my last saturday morning
moox. for a new generation.
If you delete the "small print" section and all references to Project Gutenberg, you can do whatever you want with the text.
However, a few of the PG texts are copyrighted. Even so, if you know Ruby, Python, or Perl, you could probably whip up a script that does the following:
Will I retire or break 10K?
Then go ask the local high schools if you can do the same. Should be good for another gig a year, from band and chours.
Walk around with a mini-disc recorder near christmass, good for another couple hundred meg.
Then there's the "Cooledit" solution. I'm sure you could get 150GB in a couple of hours of hacking around. Just let the thing loop! Develop about 10 different effects and run them in batch mode on every other MP3 you have...
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4. More MP3's?
-=fshalor
I would never dl Public Domain, or Linux Isos from a P2P when I can get it from an FTP that's trustworthy.
Why wouldn't you trust a copy of a free operating system distribution you download on a P2P filesharing network? If you download a file from P2P, and its MD5 hash matches the hash available on the trustworthy FTP site, there should be not one bit of difference between the file you got from P2P and the file on the trustworthy FTP site.
Will I retire or break 10K?
Thus, since filesharing cannot be banned, they must concede the point that we've been trying to make for the past several years, that illegal filesharing is a social problem and not a technological one.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
Redistribution seems to be OK just by including the 'Open Audio statement'. About like including the GPL when you restribute source code.
You can mirror my movie Vendetta: A Christmas Story. Mirror all the QuickTime content and you'll have 378 MB. It's under a creative commons license, so knock yourself out :)
;)
I imagine there are many mucisians who would enjoy the free bandwidth as well, although movies will get you bulked up with less inode usage
isn't that how britney's latest (all?) album(s) were produced?
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DJs play records. Those records are usually either copyrighted or are themselves illegal.
The truth doesn't care what I think.
Check out openmusicregistry.org.
You can find lots of free content from the links at the registry.
microsoftword.mp3 - it doesn't care that they're not words...
How could I forget this? You could mirror an entire computer science education - a whole year's worth of the ArsDigita University lectures. They are under a sharing-friendly license.
The details are here:
http://aduni.org/donate/
If you were to offer to mirror all these files, I'm sure the folks who are currently maintaining them would be most grateful.
microsoftword.mp3 - it doesn't care that they're not words...
You want to find a site which has had its URL posted to Slashdot and still manages to give 100KB/sec throughput?
You must be new around here...
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QuickTime Trailers
No p2p network that is primarily interested in legal filesharing is going to put min share limits on the clients. This sounds like this guy wants to be able to download illegal stuff, but in return share legal stuff to dismiss his fears of being arrested for sharing all illegal stuff.
Emusic doesn't allow redistribution.
I can't say that I care too much about most file sharing, but Emusic's taking a gamble that I want to see succeed: they're offering fully unlocked music and relying on the integrity of their customers to prevent re-distribution.
Companies that trust their customers are rare. I'm not willing to abuse that trust. Otherwise, crap like Pressplay and Rhapsody will be all that's left.
Forward, retransmit, or republish anything I say here. Just don't misquote me.
check out furthurnet, http://furthurnet.org it is a p2p network meant just for legal live recordings of taper friendly artists. And they main format traded is shn, so single show can easily be 1 gigabyte.
-- free as in swatantryam - not soujanyam.
Now that you mention it, I've got a couple hundred gigs of great public domain content right here. Just send me the hard drives and beer and I'll get started...
Okay, here's my idea: lots and lots of government documents.
First, any law archives you can get. Any commentary. You should be able to find tons of stuff out there, and it would be useful.
Second, all FOIA info that is online, which you can get.
Third, all government publications: "Statistics of Income", for example, is a huge archive.
Fourth, -- and here's a techie POV: see if you could get NASA docs online. There's all kinds of useful stuff out there, from such things as the low-speed GA-W-1 or Clark-Y standard wing sections, to hypersonic data, to investigation results from the Challenger, to -- you know what's coming now, because of Columbia.
Fifth, anything from any of the engineering societies that you can distribute online, do. I'd be willing to bet that a lot of them have books that are out of publication and will not be republished. You may be able to get them in PDF format. Chapter by chapter, that could be a great P2P download.
If you do this, I'm willing to bet you'll get a ton of downloads. Lawyers, engineers, do-it-yourselfers, and so on would all be using your service.
BTW: Thanks for trying to go P2P the legal route, and respecting law.
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I don't think there's an easier and faster way to fill up approximately 80 GB of your disk than putting a full Debian repository on it... (trust me - I should know; I just had to throw a few arches out of our local mirror as the 80 gig partition we've got reserved for it was 99% full... and that's without mirroring potato...)
Now all we need is a P2P-method for apt... *g*
Oh yeah, throw in a few CD images of Debian (or some other Linux distro) and you'll fill up your drive in no time...
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"I'm not anti-anything, I'm anti-everything, it fits better." - Sole
For servers based in the US not trying to profit, there is no restriction on mirroring Project Gutenberg. In fact, we'll even list you in our official mirrors list (http://www.gutenberg.net/list.html) if you'd like!
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If you're outside of the US, you might be mirroring some stuff that is under copyright in your country. But many mirrors still do this, prefering to mirror the whole collection rather than try to select items based on copyright rules. For commercial redistribution, the "small print" applies (basically, you need to pay a trademark fee -- details are in each eBook).
Here is the skinny:
The Project Gutenberg etext collection is distributed primarily by
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(though ftp or rsync is best for mirroring; see below)
The collection is over 16GB (January 2003), and expected to grow another
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to mirror nightly.
Our experience has been that a static IP address and T1 (~1.5Mb
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mirroring; DSL and cable modems do not seem to offer the necessary
bandwidth and sometimes suffer stability problems.
The best place to mirror from currently is our master download site at
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rsync (easiest), wget (easy) or the mirror PERL software (requires
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1. Rsync (available for all Unix systems; standard on Linux). The last
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rsync -rlHtSv --delete ftp@ftp.ibiblio.org::gutenberg
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The key is to only get updated files, not files you already have. A
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wget --mirror --no-host-directories --passive-ftp --no-parent --cut-dirs=4 \
--output-file=/tmp/wget-gutenberg.log \
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I have a site dedicated to providing free classical music recordings. The recordings are performances that I've been part of (some are not great, but there are a few real gems), and I'd cleared the legality with the other members of the groups, sound engineers, etc. I'd like to see more people do this, and in the interest of encouraging this, please check out my Free Classical Music archive.
-Ben
"The biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has taken place."
There exist many musicians, that think about music in more or less same way as Free Software Foundation thinks about software: It must be free as a bird. Some of them are against a notion of "copyright" and "intellectual property".
. ht mlt mlo pyin g_primer.htmlt wisted_helices. html
t ion.org/copyleft/copyrigh.html
u sic.psp
So, get some free music. It will fill at least few gigabytes. Some of that music has such licence, that forbids selling that music, but for your purpose even that kind of music is good.
Here are my URLs:
http://www.ram.org/ramblings/philosophy/fmp/fma
http://www.ram.org/ramblings/philosophy/fmp.h
http://www.ram.org/ramblings/philosophy/fmp/c
http://www.twisted-helices.com/th/
http://www.negativland.com/
http://logosfoundation.org/
http://logosfounda
http://www.janisian.com/
http://kotisivu.mtv3.fi/hipit/
http://www.vorbis.com/
http://www.vorbis.com/m
http://www.vorbis.com/musicsites.psp
http://www.creativecommons.org/
Juhapekka "naula" Tolvanen - http://iki.fi/juhtolv
I quickly amassed over 5 GB of religious documents and writings that I was hosting in an effort to smuggle them into China. It took less than 2 weeks to gather that much data from the Vatican website (vatican.va) and other Catholic websites.
Funny thing about religious documents -- people give them away for free, will actually pay other people to distribute them, and some countries try to squash them for political reasons. But, hey, the minute you start trying to talk about *LEGITIMATE* uses of P2P...