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Quickly Filling Up 150GB of Legal Media Files?

Fred Nowicki asks: "If you have ever used the P2P client Direct Connect (or DC++) to find media on the Internet, you know that the best hubs have ridiculous sharing requirements, i.e., over 100GB. It isn't too difficult to amass a collection of 100GB of illegal movies and MP3s with all the crap that's out there, but I'd like to play it straight: I want to collect 150GB of pure legal stuff. So here's my million dollar question: What is the best and fastest way for me achieve this? I want to offer interesting, neat stuff (movies, music, programs, etc.), not just Linux distros, mind you. One thing I've found so far is a mirror of the Prelinger Archives on archive.org, which offers over 37GB of wacky, interesting stuff on divx format (in MPEG-2, it's over 350GB, but that seems like cheating if I take that route). One downside of this site is that it's not a very fast connection (about 50KB/sec through their FTP via my cable modem -- I'd like a throughput of at least 100KB/sec). I've considered mirroring the Gutenberg project, but there are all sorts of redistribution issues with a bunch of their files, and I don't want to go through all that hassle. Come on, Slashdot. Give me some URLs!"

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  1. The easy solution by nstrom · · Score: 3, Funny

    cat /dev/zero > file

    1. Re:The easy solution by Ziviyr · · Score: 2, Funny

      BZ2 that an'd you'll be better off with the 50K/s source.

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    2. Re:The easy solution by Mitchell+Mebane · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's no good. Variety is the spice of life, you know.

      cat /dev/urandom > file

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    3. Re:The easy solution by cuyler · · Score: 5, Funny

      cat /dev/urandom > file

      Actually, using /dev/zero is a better idea. Using /dev/urandom you never know, you may randomly get a Metallica song and then you're screwed. Not only will the hard drive contain illegal items but Metallica will ban you from ever using /dev/urandom again.

      (Sorry, still bitter for getting kicked off of Napster the same day I bought a $40 Metallica CD that I had also downloaded)...

    4. Re:The easy solution by rongen · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, using /dev/zero is a better idea. Using /dev/urandom you never know, you may randomly get a Metallica song and then you're screwed.

      Not to mention the fact that you would get WAY better compression...

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    5. Re:The easy solution by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      Using /dev/urandom you never know, you may randomly get a Metallica song and then you're screwed.

      Nope, you're thinking of patents. If you get a Metallica song out of /dev/urandom, it's fine, because their copyright doesn't apply if you produced it independently.

      If /dev/urandom produces something patented, though, you're screwed.

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      $x=~y+ -xz+\0-Tx+;print$_^chop$me for split'',$x;
    6. Re:The easy solution by OrangeSpyderMan · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you get a Metallica song out of /dev/urandom, it's fine, because their copyright doesn't apply if you produced it independently.

      "No, You Honor, I know you don't believe me, but it *did* come from /dev/urandom..."

      I can hear sighs of relief from p2p network users preparing their defence :-)

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    7. Re:The easy solution by Jason1729 · · Score: 4, Funny

      An infinite number of users using /dev/urandom on an infinite number of computers will produce the entire RIAA library instantly.

      ...and probably some good music too.

      Jason
      ProfQuotes

    8. Re:The easy solution by pellemell · · Score: 1

      Not to mention how much better /dev/zero sounds in comparison to Metallica :)

    9. Re:The easy solution by phorm · · Score: 1

      Actually, using cat /dev/zero will screw you too. Remember that that copyrighted that song was X minutes of silence?
      Although, one would think that "prior art" would have taken care of that a long time ago.

    10. Re:The easy solution by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Prior art applies to patents; when you replicate someone's copyrighted work, it's called plagiarism.

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    11. Re:The easy solution by usr122122121 · · Score: 1
      So long as your collected data doesn't turn into exactly 3:44 minutes of silence (the guys name was John Cage), you're fine.
      It was 4:33, not 3:44.
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      -braxton
    12. Re:The easy solution by phorm · · Score: 1

      Prior art would mean that the work existed before the copyrighted work... in which case they're copying you, and it could mean a copyright dispute

    13. Re:The easy solution by caluml · · Score: 1

      [calum@flapjack calum]$ grep "answer to life" /dev/urandom
      Binary file /dev/urandom matches


      It works! Took a damn long time though ;)
      I might make that my new sig actually... Sorry, www.arhont.com .. ;)

    14. Re:The easy solution by CoolVibe · · Score: 1
      No, horrible solution.

      If you really want to cheat, use files with holes in 'em. You can store a terabyte easily on a floppy that way. To the outside apps, the file is indeed a terabyte file, yet to the filesystem, it takes up MUCH less.

    15. Re:The easy solution by Pathwalker · · Score: 1

      Holes in files are space that has not been allocated.

      Most UNIX filesystems support gaps of unallocated space in a file. They can be handy for dumping out memory used by a process, where there might be a couple of megs at data spread over a gigabyte of address space.

      The data is at the correct offset in the file, and it only takes up as much space as is actually used.

      To create one under FreeBSD, look at the truncate command.
      as an example, this command creates a 5 gig file that does not actually take up any disk space beyond one inode:
      truncate -s +5G foo

    16. Re:The easy solution by kimihia · · Score: 1

      But your system will run out of valuable entropy!!!

    17. Re:The easy solution by JustKidding · · Score: 1

      And you're quite sure that cat /dev/urandom >file won't produce any metallica songs?

    18. Re:The easy solution by Eustace+Tilley · · Score: 1

      Thank you for posting this correction just eighteen minutes and twelve seconds after the original error. I presume you listened to the Cage four times through, to verify?

    19. Re:The easy solution by glesga_kiss · · Score: 1
      cat /dev/zero > file

      And what if you end up with an audio file of 4 mins, 33 seconds?

    20. Re:The easy solution by kalidasa · · Score: 1

      Pierre Menard, Author of "Enter Sandman". (Another of Borges' stories will illustrate how low the odds of getting a Metallica song out of /dev/urandom are, "Library of Babel").

  2. 100gb, no problem! by DBordello · · Score: 5, Funny

    Doesn't EVERYBODY have 100gb of 'something special' or is that just me.

  3. scene.org? by keiko · · Score: 1

    they have a looot of free music

  4. Best way by unterderbrucke · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Help your fellow P2Pers, do it right, and get real files everyone wants.

    1. Re:Best way by buswolley · · Score: 1

      you're right. get some opensource software code on there

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    2. Re:Best way by Snaller · · Score: 1

      Help your fellow P2Pers, do it right, and get real files everyone wants.

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    3. Re:Best way by Some+Bitch · · Score: 1

      get real files everyone wants

      What, porn?

    4. Re:Best way by SubtleNuance · · Score: 1

      Use FLAC and make Perfect CD Quality copies of your CDs and make them available. File sizes are larger (get you to 100GB) and quality is perfect, so that anyone, can dload a some_album.flac, convert it to wav and recreate the CD. no more comprimise in audio quality.

    5. Re:Best way by sketerpot · · Score: 1

      There are more people reading this than just the person who asked the question. Personally, I think it would be great if people did something like that.

    6. Re:Best way by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I have the files everybody wants but you have to know the hash key to find anything. To get the hash key you either have to have the file already or know somebody that does that's willing to tell you the hash.

      You can access these files by P2P or via web. I'm working on requiring that anyone accessing my fileservers do so through a large cachine proxy network to reduce my own bandwidth. One of the goals is to have all these files on my server such that anyone can include them in their websites. As the address of the file would remain a constant there'd be less duplication in the caches leading to better caching. I'd like to make it so anyone can feed a new file into the server and if it matches a desirable mime type the file will be stored and the submitting user given the hash key.

      I'm not really sure why anyone would want to fill 150Gb of space with files nobody wants though unless they are useful in some way.

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    7. Re:Best way by 42forty-two42 · · Score: 1

      So, like Freenet, then?

    8. Re:Best way by llamaluvr · · Score: 1

      In other words, P2P networks are only good for illegal activity?

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    9. Re:Best way by Kplusplus · · Score: 1

      Well if he isn't contributing Debian CDs or install CDs for any of the many distros out there what use is he? Besides Linux insall cds and source code, which he already said is too boring for him, I don't see how he can be of benefit to any one on a p2p network.

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    10. Re:Best way by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      Ever tried FreeNet? They freak if you suggest you're going to dump gigabytes of data onto their network besides terabytes. It's really not designed for content hosting as much as privacy. As far as P2P intergrated with the web browser though.. yeah I guess so. :)

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  5. See my URL... by Jaysyn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... and ask Ken Baker if you can mirror all of the programs and user-made expansions for BG I & II, Icewind Dale etc.. Some of them are pretty large (300MB +)

    Jaysyn

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    1. Re:See my URL... by sketerpot · · Score: 1

      Your URL, just in case it changes or someone has that information turned off, is http://www.teambg.com/

  6. What about 10.000 CD-ROMs? by gmuslera · · Score: 2, Funny

    Something of this was posted in this recent slashdot story.

  7. So let me get this straight... by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 5, Funny

    So let me get this straight, you want to amass 150GB of free, public domain files, to access even larger repositories of copyrighted material to which you are not entitled ?

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    1. Re:So let me get this straight... by Andorion · · Score: 4, Funny

      Only for research purposes, of course!

      (/Pete Townshend)

      -Berj

    2. Re:So let me get this straight... by KDan · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't worry, he'll delete it after a 24-hour trial period. Daniel

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    3. Re:So let me get this straight... by muzzmac · · Score: 1

      Well...

      This stops the **AA packhound companies from targetting him via his ISP and still gives him access to his porn fix *ahem*, files. ;-)

    4. Re:So let me get this straight... by 56 · · Score: 1

      Prevents the MP and RI AA from legally targeting him and his ISP.

  8. One word... by Kaz+Riprock · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Genomes.

    Not quite as interesting a read as a Project Guttenberg book, though.

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    1. Re:One word... by timeOday · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, the human genome isn't all that big by today's data storage standards - just three gigs for the whole thing. And individuals are only 0.2% different, so maybe 10 megs per additional person.

    2. Re:One word... by gmuslera · · Score: 1

      Ok, so have a share named "Humanity" with files with this 3Gb+randomized that 0.2%. After 6 hundred millon of files, you have an interesting file collection, you can even generate random names for each file, and the ones that check your file collection will allucinate with this :)

    3. Re:One word... by isorox · · Score: 2, Funny

      Damm, I thought you said Gnomes!

    4. Re:One word... by Reziac · · Score: 1

      That should simplify the differential backups. ;)

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    5. Re:One word... by bankman · · Score: 1

      How about getting some data from CERN?

      They seem to have a couple of spare petabytes available. Just take part in the European DataGrid project and you'll have more than enough data.

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      I feel so sig.
  9. how about tucows? by sawilson · · Score: 1

    Be THE definitive source for legal shareware and
    freeware games and apps on P2P.

    1. Re:how about tucows? by AyeRoxor! · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      "Sig:(This is where pathetic losers with no lives mention something about their karma, fans, or journal)"

      You forgot one. It's also for people who are nobody special to make themselves feel better by insulting complete strangers, usually entire classes of them.

  10. SHN Audio of Live Bands by owsla · · Score: 5, Informative

    Many bands allow taping of their concerts and the redistribution of audience recordings. Lately, the most popular method of distributing these recordings is as .shn files which are a type of lossless audio. A two hour show can be about 1.0 GB so that's one way to fill a lot of space quickly. You can get started at http://www.etree.org. There are many other sites out there that will allow to download SHN shows right from their servers including, for Dave Matthews, http://www.antsmarching.org.

    1. Re:SHN Audio of Live Bands by MayorQ · · Score: 5, Informative

      Check out http://www.furthurnet.com for a P2P Java app.

      - MayorQ

    2. Re:SHN Audio of Live Bands by unclejon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And the Internet Archive has eight servers of SHNs, featuring over 2,200 concerts!

    3. Re:SHN Audio of Live Bands by unclejon · · Score: 1

      And I forgot to mention that on several of their servers they use P2P options including Onion Networks (Open Content Networks) and BitTorrent.

    4. Re:SHN Audio of Live Bands by FrostedWheat · · Score: 1

      .shn files which are a type of lossless audio

      Of course it would be nice to re-encode these to FLAC files.

      A nice open and free format!

    5. Re:SHN Audio of Live Bands by FrostedWheat · · Score: 1

      Ack, I keep getting that URL wrong. Shame that some company is camping on that address.

      Here's the proper address: http://flac.sourceforge.net/

    6. Re:SHN Audio of Live Bands by ShoeHead · · Score: 1

      Actually, DMB just changed their taping policies. You're not technically supposed to "trade tapes" without personal interaction, now. There's still tons of other jam bands that allow swapping and DC++. Just hop on a channel and ask for someone's favorite obscure show.

    7. Re:SHN Audio of Live Bands by Bklyn · · Score: 1

      Why bother with re-encoding? You're just wasting cycles on a format conversion that makes no difference (perhaps a slight space savings). It'd be like taking any zip or gzip file you have and converting to rar or bzip2.

  11. What is this by t0ny · · Score: 1

    this is turning into "Ask Slashdot, cuz im too stupid/lazy to use Google"

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  12. Don't give him ANY URLS!!! by gorjusborg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't take part in a tainting of a perfectly illegal p2p network. :)

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  13. The solution by smoondog · · Score: 1
    #include <stdlib.h>
    void main(int argc, char **argv) {
    while(1) { printf("%d",rand()); }
    }
    gcc getdata.c
    a.out > /mnt/bigvolume/data.out

    That should fill it up pretty fast.

    -Sean (fp?)
    1. Re:The solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      how about

      dd if=/dev/urandom of=/mnt/bigdrive/junk.file count=how_big_you_need_it_to_be ...otherwise, you're gonna have to go with a make file, packaging, versioning, cvs that baby up, GPL it, have msft sue you for infringement. All for printing some random characters =)

    2. Re:The solution by damiam · · Score: 2, Funny

      cat /dev/urandom > /mnt/bigvolume/data.out would be a lot faster and simpler.

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    3. Re:The solution by rsearle · · Score: 1
      I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

      void main() is not and never has been standard C. Unless you're programming for a freestanding implementation (usually an embedded system), this causes undefined behaviour. (yes, I read too much comp.lang.c)

  14. Download... by phaln · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...every possible game and app demo you can. Then you'll most definitely have your 150GB.

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    1. Re:Download... by Sancho · · Score: 1

      Thing is, you aren't allowed to redistribute most of those. Also, did the original poster not ask for multimedia files, or am I mistaken?

      Don't know the best way to do this. My suggestion would be free mp3s/oggs, reencode them to higher bitrates if need be. If you have a video game system with games you're decent at and a video capture card, you could capture gameplay and post it, although that may have a few minor legal implications (character trademarks, etc). There may also be some public domain movies you could search for, although frankly, good luck in finding them. I have a feeling you'll be hard pressed to get 150gigs of legal media files.

  15. wget!! by jiminim · · Score: 3, Funny



    wget -r http://*

    Yeah, I know it won't really work...

    1. Re:wget!! by Captain+Large+Face · · Score: 1

      wget -r http://www.google.com/search?q=a

      :-)
    2. Re:wget!! by Captain+Large+Face · · Score: 1

      403 Forbidden

      Damn it. :-P

  16. Try some legal music sites for starts by xNullx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There are a lot of free remix sites and whatnot out there. I'd recommend grabbing all you can from some of those, ex: overclocked (seems down atm) has a lot of game music remixes. I know there are also a lot of techno dj sites as well (google for them)

  17. mysql dump of the slashdot database by codepunk · · Score: 4, Funny

    slashdot.sql that should do it, just imagine the social value of all that data.

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    1. Re:mysql dump of the slashdot database by NeuroKoan · · Score: 1

      Your definition of "social value" must quite different from mine.

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  18. Re:Collect first posts... by xenoweeno · · Score: 1

    What can I say. Right place, right time and all that.

  19. free music by gdchinacat · · Score: 1

    see http://etree.org for mailing lists about sites with free music to trade. Mirrors of the sites on this list are needed. Please consider it.

  20. Or.... by sawilson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Mods for first person shooters can be enormous.

    http://ns-co.net/ as an example.

    You could also have the linux binaries for them.
    You could carry Tenebrae, quakeforge, etc. It would
    add up eventually.

    1. Re:Or.... by Grahf666 · · Score: 1

      if game related stuff is your bag, mirror fileplanet.com, or the good old cdrom.com (there are still some mirrors around, try planetmirror.com i think)

  21. Fan Films by Depris · · Score: 1, Informative

    I'd collect a lot of legal fanfilms in DivX. Especially Scifi ones. You'd be helping film students get their movies out. Open Source software, and music creation files are highly sought after. People are always looking for soundfonts and high quality sound fonts are usually in the 128 mb area. They are just a few ideas. Just do a few searches... that can easily be done.

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    1. Re:Fan Films by JDWTopGuy · · Score: 1

      Yeah, theforce.net has fanfilms. (Quicktime tho.)

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  22. ibiblio.org by Karamchand · · Score: 1

    Fetch everything from ibiblio.org and some other nice large mirrors. (SuSE used to have a CD set with some mirrors, perhaps sometime like this still exists) - i.e. fetch every Linux distribution. Software. Sources and binaries, for every platform. ...

    But please don't just download the whole ibiblio.org with a fat pipe - please ask the ftpmaster before doing it, s/he'll appreciate it!

  23. think about this... by dotgod · · Score: 1

    For those of you saying "share illegal stuff like you're supposed to", think about it like this. He's being smart because when the RIAA or MPAA or whatnot goes to bust people, they won't find anything being served by him that he would have to pay a fine for. Yet at the same time, he's able to get on the networks and download the illegal stuff just the same.

    1. Re:think about this... by khankell · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And if you think for one second that the RIAA/MPAA is going to just stop at prosecuting the people on DC that are sharing illegal files, I've got a nice bridge to sell you.

      Just as soon as they find all the people that are sharing illegally, then they are just going to say that the people doing all the legal sharing were just doing it to access the illegal content. Not that they can really prosecute without having it on your HDD, but they get what they want in the end. The destruction of the filesharing network.

      IIRC, there is a famous old saying by a German about not speaking up when they came for the gypsies and Jews, but when they came for him, there was no one left to speak up. Well, when the legal sharers won't speak up for the others using the network, who will speak up for them when their time comes?

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    2. Re:think about this... by mark-t · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I don't think you understand the point... if they say that he's only distributing legal stuff so that he can access illegal stuff (which we know to be true), and on that basis, even legal filesharing should be banned, anyone with more than two functional braincells can see the stupidity in that. It absurd to ban specific legal behaviour on the basis that certain illegal behaviour always follows it.

      Thus, since filesharing cannot be banned, they must concede the point that we've been trying to make for the past several years, that illegal filesharing is a social problem and not a technological one.

    3. Re:think about this... by dolmen.fr · · Score: 1
      that illegal filesharing is a social problem and not a technological one.

      This is why they made DMCA/EUCD : they know that the unbreakable technological protection doesn't exist, so the law forbid you to work around breakable protections.
  24. scene.org by dknight · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can mirror them, they host demos. Those are really interesting, and not too many people have them. Admittedly, I dont think that it would be the whole 100+ gig you're after, but you could get a good 20-30 that way.

    1. Re:scene.org by BenV666 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not only demos, but entire parties with movies (animation/wild compos), music (mp3/tracked) and more :)
      Of course the 32 Kb game and 64 Kb intro compos wouldn't really fill up those 150 Gb but at least they're worth every bit they take.

      These days a decent party has about 5 Gb of stuff so that'll fill up your space quite nicely...

    2. Re:scene.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I like the scene.org suggestion. Demos are really interesting and fun to watch. The programming skills shown off in them are incredible.. especially when you realize a lot of the people programming these quite complex pieces of eye candy are teenagers.

      Not only that, but there is a ton of music and art out there on scene.org as well..

  25. Homemade Pornography by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Simple. Homemade pornography is the answer. Film yourself, friends or other consenting adults engaging in wholesome sexual fun. Encode your porn into SVCD format (the most popular format for getting porn and being able to watch it in a standalone player). Pick a suitable quality level for both the audio and video and you'll quickly see that a 1 hour high quality porn should need approximately 4 700MB CD-Rs for distribution over Direct Connect. That's 2.8 gigs per movie. Now you just need to make 36 such movies and you'll be over the 100 gig sharing restriction.

    1. Re:Homemade Pornography by debrain · · Score: 4, Funny

      Simple. Homemade pornography is the answer. Film yourself, friends or other consenting adults engaging in wholesome sexual fun. Encode your porn into SVCD format (the most popular format for getting porn and being able to watch it in a standalone player). Pick a suitable quality level for both the audio and video and you'll quickly see that a 1 hour high quality porn should need approximately 4 700MB CD-Rs for distribution over Direct Connect. That's 2.8 gigs per movie. Now you just need to make 36 such movies and you'll be over the 100 gig sharing restriction.

      You've thought about that way too much, and it shows. :)

    2. Re:Homemade Pornography by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      thought?

      man, i really wanted to get on that dc server!

      -too bad i can't take the blame for the ac joke

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  26. Re:Why pass the program CL arguments? by gorjusborg · · Score: 1

    I know I'm nit-picking... but if you are going to post your code all over the Internet, you should give it a twice-over.

    You hate me now don't you?

    Sigh that's what I thought :(

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  27. mp3.com by captaineo · · Score: 1

    MP3.com has zillions of legally downloadable MP3s.

    (however, redistributing them or spidering the website to gather the files might violate their TOS)

    1. Re:MP3.com by NNland · · Score: 1

      You know, it all depends.

      About a year and a half ago, The Offspring released Original Prankster on mp3.com saying that if it could hit top 30 on MTV, they would release another track for free. If it got up higher, another...etc.

      The longer it stayed on the top MTV charts, the more potential songs released (there may have been a mention of full-cd release if #1 for some amount of time).

      Check it out, they've got 3 tracks up for download. http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/166/the_offspring. html

  28. Etree.org and Sugarmegs have... by arcadum · · Score: 1

    ... gone P2P, or really the trading has eveloved. Furthur is a P@P app designed for the Trading community.

  29. usenet news by dattaway · · Score: 1

    Many people who are involved in sports, motorcycling, jetskiing, or whatever else involves fun with groups of people take their camcorders along to share on usenet. The newsgroups make an efficient delivery system for spreading the word how to have fun without buying into the entertainment industry cartel.

    alt.binaries on usenet news may be the death of usenet in terms of bandwidth, but there is plenty of grassroots entertainment that is not the likes of warez or commercial pr0n. Its not too hard to avoid the commercial junk and find normal people like you and me, despite the spam.

  30. Find someone with the data and fedex a hard drive by deranged+unix+nut · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What is the best and fastest way for me achieve this?

    Welll...
    It is vastly faster and cheaper to fed-ex a couple large hard drives across the country than to download files over a wire. Just find an archive, send your drives and a case of beer to the maintainers and ask them to copy their archive and send the hard drives back to you.

    If you send it priority, you could have your archive in a couple days.
  31. Re:Easy by packeteer · · Score: 1

    But thats cheating... there are much better ways to cheat than .wav'ing your .mp3's. Nobody wants to download wav's over p2p unless they are originals and even then thats rare.

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  32. Re:WERE good illegal file sources by gorjusborg · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    At least they were good sources.. up to about 4:40pm today.

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  33. Files by poena.dare · · Score: 1

    I'm sure you could mirror a terrabyte of shareware and demos (esp game demos) if you don't mind clicking one tons of links at download.com.

    I remember back in ye olde days there were scads of stuff floating around in the Mac community when FTPing was all the rage. These days hosting a robust FTP server is a dangerous proposition.

    I bet you could legally mirror tons of Micro$oft security patches and you can FTP directly to them.

    Have fun and see a doctor, dude:

    ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/

  34. Scared... by Libertius · · Score: 1

    So... you wan't access to all the illegal material available, but you're scared because the BSA and MPAA have been snooping around...

  35. I don't get it. by bv3nut · · Score: 1

    What do expect to download once you get on these hubs if you're not interested in illegal material? That's the whole point of it!

  36. Make your own pr0n by ReelOddeeo · · Score: 2, Redundant

    Make your own pr0n. It's easy. It's fun. It fills up 100 GB pretty quick. Check for legality in your jurisdiction.

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    Those who would give up liberty in exchange for security and DRM should switch to Microsoft Palladium!
  37. Star Wars Fan Films by giminy · · Score: 1
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  38. What's the problem with PG? by jonathan_ingram · · Score: 1

    I've considered mirroring the Gutenberg project, but there are all sorts of redistribution issues with a bunch of their files, and I don't want to go through all that hassle.

    Could you expand on this?

    1. Re:What's the problem with PG? by zapod4 · · Score: 3, Informative
      I was thinking the same thing. From a PG header:

      DISTRIBUTION UNDER "PROJECT GUTENBERG-tm" You may distribute copies of this etext electronically, or by disk, book or any other medium if you either delete this "Small Print!" and all other references to Project Gutenberg, or:

      [1] Only give exact copies of it. Among other things, this requires that you do not remove, alter or modify the etext or this "small print!" statement. You may however, if you wish, distribute this etext in machine readable binary, compressed, mark-up, or proprietary form, including any form resulting from conversion by word pro- cessing or hypertext software, but only so long as *EITHER*:

      [*] The etext, when displayed, is clearly readable, and does *not* contain characters other than those intended by the author of the work, although tilde (~), asterisk (*) and underline (_) characters may be used to convey punctuation intended by the author, and additional characters may be used to indicate hypertext links; OR

      [*] The etext may be readily converted by the reader at no expense into plain ASCII, EBCDIC or equivalent form by the program that displays the etext (as is the case, for instance, with most word processors); OR

      [*] You provide, or agree to also provide on request at no additional cost, fee or expense, a copy of the etext in its original plain ASCII form (or in EBCDIC or other equivalent proprietary form). [2] Honor the etext refund and replacement provisions of this "Small Print!" statement.

      [3] Pay a trademark license fee to the Project of 20% of the net profits you derive calculated using the method you already use to calculate your applicable taxes. If you don't derive profits, no royalty is due. Royalties are payable to "Project Gutenberg Association / Illinois Benedictine College" within the 60 days following each date you prepare (or were legally required to prepare) your annual (or equivalent periodic) tax return.

  39. MP3.com by SixDimensionalArray · · Score: 1

    Not that I appreciate the way MP3.com works anymore after being bought by Vivendi Universal, but I'm pretty sure you can nab a few gigs of MP3s which are freely downloadable/legal from MP3.com. Just don't expect to be getting any big name artists giving away THEIR music.

  40. Re:Why pass the program CL arguments? by smoondog · · Score: 3, Funny

    I love /. This is the place where I can write a joke comment made in passing critiqued for the quality of the code written within it. Perhaps you should post a follow-up complaining about the uselessness of writing a file with rand() calls?

    -Sean

  41. Live Concerts by estoll · · Score: 3, Informative
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  42. Re:Why pass the program CL arguments? by smoondog · · Score: 1

    Anyway, I can write a new version so you could pass in the seed for srand() as an argument. :)

    -Sean

  43. Gutenberg... by autopr0n · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Does anyone else think the Gutenberg project is being incredibly hypocritical with their redistribution rules and stuff? I mean, the whole idea is to create a public domain archive, yet they want to restrict people from redistribution unless they do it 'their' way. It especially irritates me when they require you stick their 3 page license on documents that are half a page long! I would say, redistribute the stuff. I doubt they would have any legal ground to sue you.

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    1. Re:Gutenberg... by dvdeug · · Score: 1

      Does anyone else think the Gutenberg project is being incredibly hypocritical with their redistribution rules and stuff?

      If you use our trademark, don't screw it up? I don't see why that's such a hypocritical license. Just remove the header and don't use the PG name, and you'll be all right.

      I doubt they would have any legal ground to sue you.

      It's a trademark license; I don't see any reason why they can't stop you from distributing stuff marked "Project Gutenberg", no matter what it is.

  44. two ideas come to mind... by spazoid12 · · Score: 1

    go to ebay and buy any of those CD's full of "banned insider info that eBay doesn't want you to know!!"

    or, start archiving your spam

  45. simplicity itself by Anonamused+Cow-herd · · Score: 1

    The answer to this question is easy --- just hook up a cheapo webcam or something, and have it record for many many hours at its highest resolution. If you wanted something even faster, you could use a high-resolution camera with a firewire connection. Cheers, ~Tris.

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  46. Remixed videogame music and animemusic videos by GMOL · · Score: 1

    Try to get vgremix (http://www.vgremix.com) and
    overclocked mp3 archives...
    Also try to collect all the anime music video you can....

  47. ideas... by psych031337 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    look up some DJ Demo Tapes - most of these guys will prolly cherish the thought of lightening theirbandwidth load with further distribution - give attribution in filename

    movie trailers which are downloadable will prolly not (C)-free but are gray zone - no one will honesty try to subpoena you because of it, their case would be kinda weak (not sure about that)

    look for serious abandonware sites - sites that specialize i software/emulator images that are indeed released by their former makers (mostly inexistant now)

    host linux distros (not sure about that)

    watch /. and wget/archive the referenced web sites with a distinctive name, then posting a link in the /. discussion with the filename (would be coolest if you had it on several p2p networks)

    Most of these are still gray area to some extent. Hard question actually...:)

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    1. Re:ideas... by DoorFrame · · Score: 2, Interesting

      movie trailers

      I was sent a cease and desist order for selling 16mm (not even 35mm) movie trailers on Ebay. Selling them on Ebay wasn't the same as giving them away via P2P, but I've got a feeling they won't go much easier on you because of it... at least I wasn't giving away digital copies. They really hate that.

  48. Grateful Dead by wotsrovert · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Dead (and several other bands) freely allow the trading of mp3's. Check out www.gdlive.com, if you want. One or two of their monster jams should just about reach 150GB.

  49. It's easy being an artist! by fuxoft · · Score: 1
    It's really easy to get 150 GB of legal media:

    1) Just point the camera out of the window, record for 24 hours, convert the footage to highest-possible quality movie and call it "Reflections on life, Part I".

    2) If that's still not 150 GB, repeat the same (for 48 hours) and call it "Reflections on life, Part II"

    3) Wait for movie awards to start pouring in.

    4) Profit!

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  50. Easiest by bigboyofeq · · Score: 1

    Maybe just record TV shows with a TV card and compress it to mpeg. You can easly get tons of GB of stuff that way. That is not against the rulings of these HUBs, what is the next important thing right after legality.

  51. Hmmm... by muzzmac · · Score: 1

    You want to collect stuff that is allready easy to get to to make it available to people in what I believe is generally a slower download medium.

    Mind you it could future proof this stuff disappearing I guess.

  52. just hack it by heff · · Score: 1

    get that dc share hack program and set it to fake 200gb's. thats what i do.

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    1. Re:just hack it by Flamester · · Score: 1

      Yes, I remember banning you from a hub, like dozens of others who think any share fakers actually work.

      Kick message: "There's a death penalty for share-faking. Kill yourself."

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    2. Re:just hack it by heff · · Score: 1

      i never got kicked, it worked perfectly. I would just set it to some random share size like 47.3GB and it worked like a charm.

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  53. Archive.org by breon.halling · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I recommened the old "educational" movies, but there's a lot more stuff to be found at archive.org.

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    "Yeah, well, Dracula called and he's coming over tonight for you and I said okay."
  54. Etree and archive.org by pyite · · Score: 1

    Etree has collaborated with archive.org to provide people with a large repository of completely legal and high quality live recordings. Check it out, you may find out about some good new bands. Stay away from Furthurnet. It's a decent idea, but its filled with bad files, written in Java, and it's slow.

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    "Nature doesn't care how smart you are. You can still be wrong." - Richard Feynman

  55. Get some movies from archive.org by golo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Get some of those 50's movies from archive.org's Prelinger Collection
    The "Are you popular" MPEG is 260 MB+

    From their terms of use:"Access to the Archive's Collections is provided at no cost to you and is granted for scholarship and research purposesonly."

    1. Re:Get some movies from archive.org by Night+Goat · · Score: 1

      He's already found archive.org. Read the post.

    2. Re:Get some movies from archive.org by footage · · Score: 1

      Terms of use for the Prelinger movie collection are much more permissive -- see its link above.

  56. Pi by fafalone · · Score: 1

    Just download 150 billion digits of pi.
    http://ja0hxv.calico.jp/ has the first 10 billion... I think there's an FTP with more but I can't find it right now.
    or compute it yourself in a few weeks http://numbers.computation.free.fr/Constants/PiPro gram/pifasthome.html Don't forget not to compress it

    1. Re:Pi by dolmen.fr · · Score: 1

      Usually digits (not bits) of Pi are stored in ASCII, which is a waste of space.

  57. MP3.com by Cyno01 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I share files over p2p, but all i share are music by local artis whos stuff i downloaded from mp3.com, that seems pretty legal to me. The only other stuff i share is some animated shorts that you cant really find anywhere, and some install files for a couple of freeware games.

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  58. Origin of the 24-hour myth by yerricde · · Score: 4, Informative

    The (mis)conception of a "24-hour trial period" in the warez community comes from various exceptions in U.S. copyright law pertaining to libraries. Warez sites claim that they are "checking out" files to patrons, putting the patrons on the honor system to "return" the files by deleting them. And the warez curators just may be able to pull it off if they disable each download for 24 hours, marking it "Checked Out".

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    1. Re:Origin of the 24-hour myth by Galvatron · · Score: 1

      You can if you've passed the Statute of Limitations. What is the Statute of Limitations on copyright infringement?

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      "The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than that of whether a submarine can swim" -EWD
    2. Re:Origin of the 24-hour myth by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      Don't know, congress keeps extending it...

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    3. Re:Origin of the 24-hour myth by saros · · Score: 1

      Life of the infringer plus 70 years...

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    4. Re:Origin of the 24-hour myth by BCoates · · Score: 1

      looks like 3 years, but redistributing it would probably be a new offense and wouldn't help you.

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  59. Beware the dangers of law by Snaller · · Score: 1

    At least in Europe there is a law that protects collections. Forinstance, if you downloaded all of download.com - the'd have a case.

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    If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
  60. Re:Why pass the program CL arguments? by gorjusborg · · Score: 1

    Ah, yes... Masterfully done. I didn't think of the expandability aspect :)

    Why didn't you just say so, with a disclaimer or something:
    Disclaimer
    This code has been written with many many things in mind, more than you could ever think of. So don't make fun of it.

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  61. Perfect solution by W2k · · Score: 2, Informative

    Anime. Unlicensed episodes which are not illegal to distribute because there are no licensees outside of Asia. At 150-200 megs per episode, you'd be able to fit quite a few series into 150GB.

    An excellent source for unlicensed anime epsiodes, subtitled in English, is AnimeSuki, where they're downloadable via BitTorrent - you know, the P2P App with Brains. Downloads are usually quite snappy.

    As an added advantage to collecting unlicensed anime, it's usually quite fun to watch. The downside is that once a series becomes licensed, you have to stop sharing it. Right now, there are several good series being released. I recommend Naruto, Mahoromatic and Wolf's Rain.

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    1. Re:Perfect solution by Recovery1 · · Score: 1

      Sounds good, don't forget the unlicenced fansubbed manga. You can fill quite a few megs with Yokohama Shopping trip, Kimaguire Orange Road, etc. (hope I spelled them correctly)

    2. Re:Perfect solution by W2k · · Score: 1

      I did think about manga, but it would take quite a few scans to fill up even a single GB, let alone 150GB. That's why I didn't mention it. Of course, you could convert them to BMP instead of JPG/GIF/PNG, but that's cheating and some of the stricter DC hubs would ban you for making your share seem larger than it is.

      For the interested, Toriyama's World has some nice manga fansubs for download.

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    3. Re:Perfect solution by W2k · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I thought you were trolling at first, but then I realized, you do have a point. Allow me to re-phrase:

      "So-called unlicensed episodes are episodes which you're highly unlikely to get into legal trouble for sharing, because there are no licensees outside of Asia, and the licensees that do exist largely tolerate the practice, because it helps sales when the anime in question is eventually brought to market in the rest of the world."

      Sorry for messing that up in the original posting. I really should know better.

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    4. Re:Perfect solution by Microlith · · Score: 1

      Don't mistake yourself.

      Fansubs _are_ illegal. The owners simply chose not to prosecute.

      Hell, several shows being distributed now (Ghost in the Shell: SAC) IS LICENSED, yet as many have said, the "ethics" of fansubbing have all but disappeared.

    5. Re:Perfect solution by isorox · · Score: 1

      I really should know better.

      Perhaps, but the mods definatly should - and mod up one of your replies.

      Unfortunatly there isnt a -1 (Wrong)

    6. Re:Perfect solution by FunkyChild · · Score: 3, Informative

      Bzzzt! Wrong. It's illegal as per the Berne Convention.

      Read: Japanese Animation Legality and Ethics FAQ, by Andy Kent

    7. Re:Perfect solution by Recovery1 · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the link. I haven't heard of this place before. Will check it out in my free time.

      -Recovery1

  62. Roll your own pr0n by mattbot+5000 · · Score: 1

    150 GB of homemade pr0n shouldn't take long.

  63. Cheat! by beebware · · Score: 1

    On my Windows machine, I've got all my shared files under D:/shared/ , I've also set up (using subst) the virtual drive S: which points towards D:/shared/ . Share both D:/shared/ and S: and I've "doubled" my available file list...

    1. Re:Cheat! by YorkshireONE · · Score: 1
      On my Windows machine, I've got all my shared files under D:/shared/ , I've also set up (using subst) the virtual drive S: which points towards D:/shared/ . Share both D:/shared/ and S: and I've "doubled" my available file list...

      What you suggest will get you booted and banned from any Direct connect hub, especially ones with high requirements like 100gb of valid shares.
      People like you are a cancer in the file sharing community, you may as well work for the RIAA.
      Take your time, start in the lower rooms and slowly build up a decent collection.

      We will spot your fakeness and we will boot&ban you.

    2. Re:Cheat! by beebware · · Score: 1

      Well, I don't normally use DC anyway (I'm more KazaaLite orientated) and I share over 60Gb of files anyway (sometimes up to 70Gb but that means I'm practically out of disc space). But I suppose it's a still a good idea if you find the one hub that has the file you are after but you are _just_ that little bit short of the requirements. If I had larger hard drives, I'll share more but alas...

  64. Ask Slashdot: My Question by rh2600 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Instead of actually asking a serious, important or thought provoking question that actually contributes something to this universe.I will ask what has become the standard type of Ask Slashdot Question.

    What is the most pointless geeky question I can ask slashdot that will serve no other purpose but get people talking about the banal and irrelevant. My goal is to spend a lot of time and money, hacking something together that really has no purpose other than to amuse my own sad little life, and hopefully impress fellow slashdotters and provide them with funny anecdotes to share around the lunch table - "Hey some guy on slashdot is building a beowulf cluster out of 3000 gameboy advances, and he wanted to know the best colour to get!"

    My end goal is to have wasted everybody's time because I probably won't start on the idea, and if I do it will wind up being an unfinished project on my personal website featuring pictures of my cat.

    1. Re:Ask Slashdot: My Question by timmyf2371 · · Score: 1
      Hey! Just because you don't have a beowulf cluster of 3000 GBAs doesn't mean you can knock it.

      Just for your information, the best colour to get is the Indigo color. :-)

      Tim

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    2. Re:Ask Slashdot: My Question by phuturephunk · · Score: 1

      . . Dude . . That just failed horribly . . ;) . .

    3. Re:Ask Slashdot: My Question by JhAgA · · Score: 1

      I swear I was about to write the same thing. Ask slashdot is on the edge of leaving the geek community and going into the nerd-egocentric one.

    4. Re:Ask Slashdot: My Question by 0x0d0a · · Score: 1

      Ask slashdot is on the edge of leaving the geek community and going into the nerd-egocentric one.

      The social dynamics of the pocket protector are weird indeed.

    5. Re:Ask Slashdot: My Question by Hex4def6 · · Score: 1

      Dude - a question needs to have a "?" at the end of it to qualify in my book as a "question". ;)

  65. How many copyrights do they infringe? by yerricde · · Score: 2, Informative

    Almost all of the recordings available at overclocked.net (except possibly for some arrangements of Russian folk tunes such as Korobeiniki, labeled as "Tetris" remixes) are derivative works of the songs in video games and thus infringe copyrights owned by (the songwriters who licensed the music to) the video game publishers.

    Music videos for major-label recordings that include footage from animated television shows infringe three copyrights: 1. the copyright on the TV show, 2. the copyright on the song, and 3. the copyright on the recording.

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  66. Lucas may come for you by yerricde · · Score: 1

    Star Wars Fan Films

    Which possibly infringe the copyrights of Lucasfilm Ltd.

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  67. Legal 'bootlegs' by Kruid · · Score: 2, Informative

    Good & Legal music... http://www.furthurnet.com/

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  68. high-quality rips by Angron · · Score: 1

    I'm sure most people know someone with an extensive CD and/or DVD collection. For people interested in having digital copies readily available while still preserving quality, ripping their CD's and DVD's into highest-possible quality can use up HD space very quickly. A 2-hour movie encoded at 2200 kbps (not to mention the audio bitrate) can easily go over 2 GB for that one movie. I know at _least_ one person who owns over 50 DVD's, and many of those are a good bit more than 2 hours long ;).

    Throw in ripping all your audio with lossless codecs and another 50GB isn't hard to come up with for anyone with a lot of CD's.

    So it _is_ possible to have 150GB of legal media (assuming fair use rights). Just unlikely ;).

    -A

  69. Legal Files by ExileOnHoth · · Score: 1

    Try Gnutella: everything on there is legal according to the Fair Use clause in copyright law!

  70. Put up some of your own stuff! by phr2 · · Score: 1

    Get yourself a mini-DV or digital-8 camcorder and start shooting some interesting video. Each 60 minute tape is around 11 gigabytes. You'll fill up 137 GB in no time.

  71. And infringe Capcom's copyright by yerricde · · Score: 3, Interesting

    game music remixes

    Do you have permission from Konami or Sega to distribute recordings of Konami's or Sega's copyrighted musical works? I don't think so. See my other comment.

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  72. Best advice by Jeedo · · Score: 1

    my advice to you is to start off at a small hub for users that have maybe 5-10GB and work your way up.

  73. Sourceforge is the awnser by ArsonPerBuilding · · Score: 1

    www.sourceforge.net is believe. Try to miror the source of as many projects as you can download!

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  74. Beyondunreal.com by Neophytus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    BeyondUnreal.com will be happy to let you mirror all their files (currently 20GB, always growing) so long as you sacrafice your upload bandwidth to the rabid BU visitors (they get alot) and allow them updates whenever necessary.

  75. Analysis of your ideas by yerricde · · Score: 2, Informative

    look up some DJ Demo Tapes

    DJ demo tapes usually contain continuous mixes of copyrighted recordings of copyrighted songs, and because there's not as much of an "open source" community in songwriting as in programming, most songs ("song" in copyright law refers to the melody independent of any recording thereof) are not published under a license allowing free redistribution of recordings.

    movie trailers

    This could work. I'd assume that at least one of the seven major American motion picture studios would be happy to let you mirror advertisements for its movies. Just ask first.

    look for serious abandonware sites

    Strictly, copyright lasts ninety-five years, but the fact that the copyright owner has allowed the program to fall out of print may constitute an admission that the work has negligible market value, and market value is one of the four primary factors of fair use.

    host linux distros

    This should work. However, you should look closely at the license for the distribution; some distributions of free operating systems (such as Theo de Raadt's official OpenBSD) copyright the directory structure of the distro CD and do not license it for free redistribution.

    watch /. and wget/archive the referenced web sites with a distinctive name, then posting a link in the /. discussion with the filename (would be coolest if you had it on several p2p networks)

    This can actually be legal in the USA under the proxy and caching exemptions passed as riders to the DMCA.

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  76. Why not make your own? by Major+Tom · · Score: 1

    As far as I know, there is no archive of public domain movies available on the Net. Why not rent a stack of Buster Keaton and Charlie Chaplin classics, rip 'em to DivX, and make the world a better place? I know I'd love to be able to download stuff like that from any of the P2P networks... maybe I should finally get around to buying a DVD-ROM drive...

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    What's good for the syndicate is good for the country. --Milo Minderbinder
    1. Re:Why not make your own? by spike+hay · · Score: 1

      I know I'd love to be able to download stuff like that from any of the P2P networks... maybe I should finally get around to buying a DVD-ROM drive...

      Why not just burn'em to SVCD? Laserdisc quality. Most of the stuff on P2P isn't anywhere near DVD quality anyway.

      --
      If you don't understand any of my sayings, come to me in private and I shall take you in my German mouth.
  77. Rip it from DBS by Zobeid · · Score: 1

    If you have the right kind of digitizing hardware for audio and video, and you have a DBS satellite TV system, you can rip all the stuff you want from it. You can archive the stuff and keep it for your future reference, and it's all completely legal.

    Problems? Well... It can be time consuming to find the things you want on TV, digitize them, edit them, etc. Plus you have to pay your DBS bill. So it's not free, and I think the cost of invested time is more significant than the money.

    But I just have to emphasize..... It's all legal. I've collected quite some music by this method.

  78. SR-71 Flight Manual by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Mirror the SR-71 Flight Manual at http://www.sr-71.org/blackbird/manual on P2P.

    It's like 170 MB and is an interesting, but yet tiring read.

  79. Replace the Gamespy public ftp servers by miu · · Score: 1
    Gamespy has made downloading maps, mods, sdks, and the like a serious chore.

    I don't hate GSI, but they are on my "don't bother" list alongside mydrive, angelcities, ispace, and the like. You could set up a distribution with reasonable naming conventions, links from review sites, and so on.

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  80. WTC movies as well by yerricde · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Video footage of other disasters can also help you fill up a 150 GB hard disk. Here are some clips of the terrorist destruction of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. Just make sure to ask any identifiable copyright owner before you mirror them on DC.

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  81. In a band? by yerricde · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Use FLAC [xiph.org] and make Perfect CD Quality copies of your CDs and make them available.

    "Your CDs"? That only works if you're in a band. Even if the original poster is in a band whose members write their own songs, how many albums has that band released? Divide that by about 4 to see how many GBs that would make up.

    And if the original poster is in a band whose members write their own songs, how can they be sure that in writing the songs, they didn't accidentally infringe another songwriter's copyright?

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    1. Re:In a band? by fault0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Uh, grandparent poster said that the person should share what people want on the p2p network (which is usually illegal)

  82. Think about where you're posting from by 42forty-two42 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Mirror slashdotted webpages!

  83. driving video by Hadlock · · Score: 2, Informative

    every ameture wheel to wheel racer owns a camcorder and each race produces about 100 megs of video. corner-carvers.com usually spits out about 100 megs of unique video each day, and there's links to gigs of good race footage from inside the car on famous tracks (leguna seca, for example). these videos usually get pretty low traffic so it's not uncommon to get > 1 megabit/s off of multiple files.

    that's how i spent my last saturday morning

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  84. Doing it legally by Capacitor · · Score: 1

    You could always just pretend to be sharing legal stuff which is a lot easier:
    - Add cryptoAPI and cryptoloop to your kernel
    - Encrypt your ridiculously large amount of disk space
    - Put whatever you like on it
    When law enforcement rears its ugly head to pick up your gear for evidence (and it will - always remember that):
    - Accidentally cut power
    - Claim amnesia
    - Claim innocense

    1. Re:Doing it legally by user32.ExitWindowsEx · · Score: 1

      Destroy the key and nail 'em under the DMCA for trying to crack your crypto! :p

      (Ok, ok, I'll go now)

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  85. My sweet lord by yerricde · · Score: 1

    Get legal mp3's

    How do you know that you have the right to redistribute files created by a patented process? The process of encoding an MP3 file is patented. From here on, I'll assume you meant "ogg" because it simplifies the analysis.

    Even if you download the .ogg files directly from the band's web site, how do you know that the band has the right to distribute recordings of the musical works, or that you have the right to redistribute them? Only the songwriter can grant that, though USA copyright law caps royalties at 8 cents per track.

    And even if the band members write the band's songs, how can you be sure that the band didn't unwittingly crib the melody from some popular song?

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  86. 200 GB worth of radio archives by Danta · · Score: 1

    My favourite station, WFMU, has been archiving virutally all their radio shows since August 2000. The archives are 20.6 kbps RealAudio. According to my calculations that would make around 203 GB worth of archives by now.

    Once I get my iPod, that's how I am going to fill it up.

  87. Movies from archive.org by anti-drew · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The Movie Archive of www.archive.org contains all sorts of fascinating, cool, and as far as I know redistributable movie files.

    A tiny sample of a few that I've grabbed:
    * "Duck and Cover" - the classic scary bomb-readiness film for schoolchildren
    * "I like Ike" - Eisenhower political ad, animated
    * "Are You Popular?" - bizarre and weird example of 1950's conformity and culture

    The collection is just huge, and you can no doubt find some crazy cool stuff. Mirror the whole thing, and you'll probably start approaching 150GB very quickly, at the raw speed of your download pipe.

  88. It's only 250MB... by asparagus · · Score: 1

    But you're welcome to put the mp4 versions of all my shorts on DC.

    Download 'em here.

    -Brett

    1. Re:It's only 250MB... by Dh2000 · · Score: 1

      As if we would want to look at your underwear.

      Pervert.

      People! Don't go to that site!

  89. look for online labels by Dr.+Awktagon · · Score: 1

    Into electronic music? Try Monotonik .. they have maybe a gig or more of "freely spreadable" MP3's, all great stuff. Some live sets and stuff hiding on their FTP servers as well. Awesome music, if you like artists like Thug, Lackluster, Sense, etc, or any kind of electronic/ambient/IDM stuff.

    Look around for more MP3-only free labels, there are some others out there I can't remember right now, but they all encourage distribution. DJ sets are particularly nice (big) but most of them don't have permission to redistribute the songs in the first place, use your judgement on how "legal" those are.

    I bet there are online movie outfits that give away stuff in a similar spirit.

    I think this is a good idea, maybe someone will download one of your files and learn about a new artist who deserves their money rather than the the big labels.

  90. Compilation copyright by yerricde · · Score: 1

    [Laws of the European Union] make some US IP laws look sensible.

    Not in this case. United States copyright law also recognizes a copyright on a compilation[1] of works separate from the copyrights on the individual works themselves.

    [1] "Compilation" here has nothing to do with translation of a program's source code into binary code.

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  91. Demos/movies or ehh.."stuff" by EinarH · · Score: 1

    Both sogamed.com, esreality.com and clanbase.com have _tons_ of gamedemos and movies from Quake1-3, Counterstrike, Unreal etc.
    SoGamed alone prob. have 60GB wit cs-demos...
    It's all legal.
    It's free as in beer.

    But if you want something almost everyone wants on DC++ hubs you could check out IRC.
    -->Download mIRC connect to EFnet or Undernet.
    -->Join a channel with bots that offer movies, games and albums.
    -->Watch your harddisk fill.
    It's not legal.
    It's still free.

    [Legal disclaimer: I do NOT encourage copyright infringement or any other illegal actions bla bla bla.]

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  92. Tell that to George Harrison's estate. by yerricde · · Score: 1

    a good-sized collection of free tracked (mod/s3m/xm/it/etc.) and MPEG-format music.

    How do you know that the authors of those s3m files didn't inadvertently copy a popular song? George Harrison got in big trouble for that (search Google for Bright Tunes Music v. Harrisongs Music).

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  93. Independant music and films by Lossenelin · · Score: 1

    Lots of musicians who dont have recording industy contracts distribute their music online for free, they don't care about the money they just want people to hear thier music, if you can find a few of such songs they would be good.
    You might also try to find some independant films that are alowed to be shared on the internet I know that Park Wars is one.
    I'm in to film making myself and if I ever get one of my great ideas finished, its going to be online for anyone who wants it

  94. httrack by yarbo · · Score: 1

    I've racked up 10 gigs of random stuff using httrack. Just type in some portal and have it just pick up 100 gigs of anything.

  95. URL? by yerricde · · Score: 1

    Unlicensed episodes which are not illegal to distribute because there are no licensees outside of Asia.

    Can you point me to a web page that explains, with argument from statutes and case law, why redistributing such works without the written consent of the Asian copyright owner is not an infringement of copyright?

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    1. Re:URL? by W2k · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I realized afterwards that I was incorrect in that statement. It's not illegal as such, it's just that the copyright holders generally don't mind. Unlike the RIAA/MPAA, they've realized that sharing does help sales and increase popularity. Especially on a market that would otherwise be hard for them to get into.

      See this E2 write-up for more information on the ethics of fansubbing.

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  96. Kick+Ban by yerricde · · Score: 1

    If you cheat, the hub administrator will ban your IP address. If you cheat on three IP addresses, the hub administrator will ban your /24.

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  97. Some suggestions by chowbok · · Score: 1
    I'm in a similar situation, because my work allows running P2P as long as you don't share copyrighted material. Here's what I provide, or plan to:
    • Negativland's recordings are all public domain. There are also several more obscure artists in the Negativland vein, such as Evolution Control Committee, John Oswald, Tape-Beatles, and People Like Us, all of whom do not copyright their material.
    • The Conet Project, a collection of shortwave "numbers" transmissions: fascinating listening of encoded broadcasts by various governments to their agents overseas, all of whom deny that they do it (so they're de facto public domain).
    • The old cartoons from Fleischer Studios (Betty Boop, Popeye, Superman) are apparently public domain, judging by the number of small companies that have put out videotapes and DVDs of them. They also happen to be the best cartoons of the 1930's, period.
    • His Girl Friday, The 39 Steps, and The Lady Vanishes are all public domain, so I'm planning on encoding and sharing nice prints of these one of these days.
    • Occasionally I'll use Streambox VCR to grab a C-Span Real Media stream of something interesting and then share it. This is a little unethical, perhaps, but any broadcasts of speeches or government proceedings they make are public domain.
  98. Library of Congress by MoreDruid · · Score: 1

    You might want to mirror the Library of Congress. That _should_ get you started.

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  99. Betamax doesn't go that far by yerricde · · Score: 1

    If you have the right kind of digitizing hardware for audio and video, and you have a DBS satellite TV system, you can rip all the stuff you want from it. You can archive the stuff

    Under precedents such as those established in the Betamax case (Sony v. Universal), archiving broadcasts is not an infringement of copyright in the United States. However, Betamax doesn't let you distribute copies of your archives.

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  100. Goddammit! by Civil_Disobedient · · Score: 1

    That was my idea, too!

    Of course, I doubt the average techie is a 21-year old, large breasted, small waist'ed, long-legged Hoover of a sex-addict, so perhaps this isn't the best content to distribute.

    1. Re:Goddammit! by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1


      Nobody said the broads hadda be good-looking, find some desperate fat ones, and just distribute the stuff to the pervy freaks on /.

      Throw in some foot fetish and all you have to film is feet - so nobody cares what the rest of the body looks like...

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  101. Etree Has Terrabytes of Legal Music by lunk · · Score: 1

    Check out www.etree.org to find out how to get on their mailing lists. They have tons of high quality live music freely available.

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  102. BUG REPORTS! by AtomicX · · Score: 1

    That's the answer: Just get all the text from the MS Windows Security bug reports from the last year + all related /. comments and jokes. You should get 150GB in no time. Plus it is all legal... ... oh no... wait, it is probably banned under the DMCA as it might harm sales.

  103. Re:The collective wisdom of /. by SamZam · · Score: 1

    Actually, this is a great idea.(not for the purpose of this particular topic, which has devolved to embarrassing depths...)

    I'd like to archive it. Is there an easy way to get it in bulk(compressed, etc) that won't required many(!) individual HTTP requests? Seems like that's at least one way to get it(how far back do the /. archives go, anyways?) but it'd be much more efficient in some "bulk" format.

  104. How about Pi? by chowbok · · Score: 1

    6 GB, right here.

  105. How to clean up a PG etext for redistribution by yerricde · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you delete the "small print" section and all references to Project Gutenberg, you can do whatever you want with the text.

    However, a few of the PG texts are copyrighted. Even so, if you know Ruby, Python, or Perl, you could probably whip up a script that does the following:

    1. Reject any file that does not contain the exact phrase *END*THE SMALL PRINT! FOR PUBLIC DOMAIN ETEXTS* or any of the other similar phrases that PG has used over the years.
    2. Copy all lines after that line into a new file.
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  106. Hornet.org is the place by quantax · · Score: 1

    Though it does not have quite THAT much data, it does have quite a bit of great art of all types. It has everything from ASCII art to demos. I personally downloaded their entire music collection (consists mostly of tracker files), and have been slowly but surely sorting through it. Definitely a great source of music and is the last home to many a forgotten art (atleast these days for the most part).

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  107. RE: Community service by fshalor · · Score: 2, Informative
    Ask some local community orchestra's/playing groups if they'd like you to host their concerts on your site. I already have about 1 GB of local recordings and growing from just one group. And most of it's great music too! Most groups give about 4 concerts a year. Approx 150MB per concert. (MP3s @ 256k)


    Then go ask the local high schools if you can do the same. Should be good for another gig a year, from band and chours.


    Walk around with a mini-disc recorder near christmass, good for another couple hundred meg.


    Then there's the "Cooledit" solution. I'm sure you could get 150GB in a couple of hours of hacking around. Just let the thing loop! Develop about 10 different effects and run them in batch mode on every other MP3 you have...


    3.???
    4. More MP3's? :)

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  108. Re: Community service by unclejon · · Score: 1

    If you're interested in having these performances hosted at the Internet Archive, contact etree at archive dot org or post to the message board on the website.

  109. digital video camera by MikeFM · · Score: 1

    Get a good digital video camera and you can take snapshots and movies. Perfect for shooting porn or whatever you like. I like to film random objects and people sort of like that creepy guy in American Beauty (only I've never had a teenage girl jump me for it.. darn) and it's really very fun. It provides lots of files too so you can enjoy using hdd space very quickly. Get used to buying a new 100+ Gb hdd with every paycheck.

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  110. Share an archive of Cryptome.org by emcron · · Score: 1

    Share an archive of cryptome.org because one of these days John is going to get thrown into a deep, dark hole.

  111. TV Shows by Propaganda13 · · Score: 1

    There's still a bid demand for TV Shows. I think as long as it's a capture and not a DVD-rip, it's legal. Of course, I gave up trying to figure out what's what a long time ago.

    If you want to be 100% safe, you have to deal with public domain stuff or files where you can verify legality with the owners. I would never dl Public Domain, or Linux Isos from a P2P when I can get it from an FTP that's trustworthy.

    As for links, I'm not slashdotting the sites that I go to. Use a little Google action.

    1. Re:TV Shows by JDWTopGuy · · Score: 1

      I got some quicktime movies of gilligan's island. I also have several very long VHS tapes of same. I'd rip them all (to MP4 even!) for a small fee... :-)

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  112. Set something up for beginning bands. by crashnbur · · Score: 1
    Offer a free service for bands to submit audio and video recordings. Lots of sites host semi-ameteur "legal" mp3s. Why not videos too?

    Probably a bad idea, but I'm sure more than just bands have an imagination and a video camera. Sponsor some creative video contests, like the AtomFilm Star Wars spoof thing...

  113. Re:The collective wisdom of /. by yerricde · · Score: 1

    Is there an easy way to get it in bulk(compressed, etc)

    If your user agent supports mod_gzip, many web sites deliver pages with gzip compression.

    that won't required many(!) individual HTTP requests?

    You can minimize the number of pageviews by fetching pages in "nested" mode.

    But then you run into the problem that "Comments are owned by the Poster" and that you have no way to ask Anonymous Coward for permission to reproduce the comments outside of Slashdot.

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  114. md5sum makes P2P distribution trustworthy by yerricde · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would never dl Public Domain, or Linux Isos from a P2P when I can get it from an FTP that's trustworthy.

    Why wouldn't you trust a copy of a free operating system distribution you download on a P2P filesharing network? If you download a file from P2P, and its MD5 hash matches the hash available on the trustworthy FTP site, there should be not one bit of difference between the file you got from P2P and the file on the trustworthy FTP site.

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    1. Re:md5sum makes P2P distribution trustworthy by Propaganda13 · · Score: 1

      True, but first off the file has to have an MD5 hash. I'm sure you could start the download, get the hash through different programs, stop it, use a search with the MD5/load directly into the P2P program.
      If you're downloading an Linux iso, they'll have the MD5 available for download. Of course, you're already logged into an FTP site to get the MD5, so why not download the iso too.
      Yes, there will be cases when the FTP's are swamped.
      The other option is to get the MD5 from a trustworthy forum. I do think MD5 within P2P is essential. I use MD5 and different P2P forums to make sure I'm getting what I wanted. I've just always found FTP to be faster, and more convenient for Linux isos and shareware.

      I probably should have split my sentence up and clarified my opinion more.

  115. Your own music collection? by swordgeek · · Score: 1

    Serious question here. I've never seen a good answer.

    If I buy an album, then I see no problems with downloading a copy of it. After all, I could legally tape/rip it. I'm also not sure that sharing it is illegal.

    If I legally own an album and make it available to a p2p network, is the onus on me or the downloader to prove the legality of it?

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  116. Usenet by smaugy · · Score: 1

    Grab everything from the bootleg/live/radio recordings (bbc sessions, etc) mp3 groups on usenet from a premium provider. That might be all you actually need to do; there's a hell of a lot of stuff.

  117. legal mp3 music sites by linuxbaby · · Score: 1, Troll
    emusic.com is a great site for fully legal unlocked standard MP3 files. Check out their JAZZ and WORLD sections, especially!

    etree.org for a directory huge lossless (true CD quality) legal audio files from FTP sites. Mostly live shows. HUGE files will fill up your space fast.

    mp3.com for downloads-a-plenty. All put up there by the musicians, who want you to download them!

    Emusic gets my best vote here, because their CDs have a one-click to download all songs on a CD. You can go add say 50 albums to your queue with 50 clicks each night before bed, and fill up your collection pretty fast. (non-windows people use zinf for this one-click capability.)

    1. Re:legal mp3 music sites by PapaZit · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Emusic doesn't allow redistribution.

      I can't say that I care too much about most file sharing, but Emusic's taking a gamble that I want to see succeed: they're offering fully unlocked music and relying on the integrity of their customers to prevent re-distribution.

      Companies that trust their customers are rare. I'm not willing to abuse that trust. Otherwise, crap like Pressplay and Rhapsody will be all that's left.

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  118. DC++ Upload Limit by kEnder242 · · Score: 1

    Borrow a HD from a friend, or just buy it off them thats what I did. I use DC when I need to get a specific file, and to upload anime.

    For everything else threes Usenet.
    http://abma.x-maru.org/guide/

    There is an interesting discussion going on at
    http://dcplusplus.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic. php?t=24&start=50

    Upload limiting is something DC is SEVERLY lacking ... many more people would leave DC connected if it didn't KILL your connection when someone started downloading from you.
    Lack of bandwidth management creates leechers.

    ~ I'm the op Ender@hexfury.dyndns.org (Upload: 197.23 GB, Download: 35.53 GB since http://dcpp.netfirms.com/ )

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    1. Re:DC++ Upload Limit by fault0 · · Score: 1

      > Upload limiting is something DC is SEVERLY lacking ... many more people would leave DC connected if it didn't KILL your connection when someone started downloading from you.
      Lack of bandwidth management creates leechers.

      No it isn't... use a client that supports it such as dc_gui/dctc for linux. It not only lets you set upload bandwidth, but allows you to priortize the packets. And, for leechers like myself, you can set share offsets (so, if you want to look like if you are sharing 900 GB of files, you can), as well as "virtual share directories", which is basically fake sharing built in the client. It's been a while since I actually shared anything on DC :)

  119. Your ISP called... by mikecarrmikecarr · · Score: 1

    ...they want their bandwidth back!

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  120. How to exclude covers? by yerricde · · Score: 1

    Offer a free service for bands to submit audio and video recordings.

    How are you going to verify that the recordings submitted aren't unauthorized covers of published songs?

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  121. Surprised no one's mentioned this... by Flarelocke · · Score: 1
    Make yourself an archive of the web.

    An unsophisticated approach to this is:
    wget -r -l 0 -Q 150000M
    This is bad because of things like dynamically generated pages will be downloaded twice, I'm pretty sure it's not concurrent, and it won't respect the webauthors' wishes regarding archival.

    Write yourself a spider to fix these.
  122. IDEA.... by tq_at_sju · · Score: 1

    why don't you just tell people to send you a CD of all their free stuff. I'm sure there are people with nothing better to do then send cd's, what's your address again ?

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  123. Open Music Registry by Radical+Rad · · Score: 3, Funny
    This site provides a database of music and other audio works published under the terms of the Open Audio License. Artists may register their works for free, and music fans may browse the database for free.

    Redistribution seems to be OK just by including the 'Open Audio statement'. About like including the GPL when you restribute source code.

  124. Related Question by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

    How can I find legal files on the P2P networks?

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  125. How nice of them! by sulli · · Score: 1
    The etext may be readily converted by the reader at no expense into plain ASCII, EBCDIC or equivalent form

    Because it has been so inconvenient not having EBCDIC text available for my IBM mainframes! Thanks PG for the excellent work!

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  126. Mirror Independent Movies? by localman · · Score: 2, Funny

    You can mirror my movie Vendetta: A Christmas Story. Mirror all the QuickTime content and you'll have 378 MB. It's under a creative commons license, so knock yourself out :)

    I imagine there are many mucisians who would enjoy the free bandwidth as well, although movies will get you bulked up with less inode usage ;)

  127. gasp! by zozzi · · Score: 3, Funny

    isn't that how britney's latest (all?) album(s) were produced?

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    1. Re:gasp! by JDWTopGuy · · Score: 1

      Yup, and blue man group synthesizes their music from the windows "Blue Screen of Death"...

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  128. DJ Demo tapes are usually illegal by sirshannon · · Score: 2, Informative

    DJs play records. Those records are usually either copyrighted or are themselves illegal.

  129. open music! by abe+ferlman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Check out openmusicregistry.org.

    You can find lots of free content from the links at the registry.

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  130. Easy by Exiler · · Score: 1

    Mirror all Emacs versions, binary and source. Not only will you have a few TB, but hard drive makers will be throwing bids at you

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  131. RacingFlix by schatten · · Score: 1

    www.racingflix.com

  132. What an odd forum for this by xant · · Score: 1

    You want /.ers to post URLS leading to interesting data found on the Internet?

    I don't see how this could possibly work. Try AOL maybe?

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  133. Apple ][ Forever by djradon · · Score: 1

    I've always loved ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/. "#1 archive of Apple II 8-bit games and utilities in emulator DSK and file formats; plus emulators and emu info " (from callapple.org/). I believe it also has a good ][gs resources, so you'll also be getting a classic 16-bit architecture.

  134. ADUni has about 150 Gigs of data by abe+ferlman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How could I forget this? You could mirror an entire computer science education - a whole year's worth of the ArsDigita University lectures. They are under a sharing-friendly license.

    The details are here:
    http://aduni.org/donate/

    If you were to offer to mirror all these files, I'm sure the folks who are currently maintaining them would be most grateful.

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    1. Re:ADUni has about 150 Gigs of data by hlva · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's actually only about 80 gigs. : ) We sell hard drives with all of that on them. Or you can go the extremely slow route and download them all. We'd love to have someone make all that available through a P2P client - don't have the bandwidth to do it ourselves. And it's all under the OpenContent License, no worries about legality.

      -heather
      (ADUni webmaster)

  135. Here's a little. by philovivero · · Score: 1

    Some odd, but possibly interesting artwork, I'll give you fullsize images plus XCF files (equivalent to Photoshop PSD files but for Linux/GIMP) to distribute. Also, I've got a bunch of cool-looking fractals I've generated. You can d/l the parameter file and use Sterling Fractal to generate say 8,000x8,000 JPEGs of these things yourself.

    I know, it's not quite like MPEG2 video or anything, but it'll be a couple gig if you play it right.

    Also, if you go buy a nice 5 megapixel camera and start taking thousands of pictures, you can fill up a few gig there. My personal picture collection is something like 30GB, and that's with a 3 megapixel camera.

  136. Fast URLs from Slashdot? by iapetus · · Score: 4, Funny
    One downside of this site is that it's not a very fast connection (about 50KB/sec through their FTP via my cable modem -- I'd like a throughput of at least 100KB/sec). [...] Come on, Slashdot. Give me some URLs!

    You want to find a site which has had its URL posted to Slashdot and still manages to give 100KB/sec throughput?

    You must be new around here...

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  137. I want my iMovie! by nzilla · · Score: 1

    Couldn't you just whip out your DV camcorder and make some recordings like snuff movies and porn (or just some goofy movie you made) and then post the DV files? That would fill up a lot of space quickly. I would've thought this would be obvioius.

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  138. Movie Trailers by Josuah · · Score: 2, Interesting
  139. electronicscene.com by TeknoDragon · · Score: 1

    and how about mp3.com? (at least the downloadables)

    not sure about their terms so, so electronicscene might be a better bet.

    1. Re:electronicscene.com by juhtolv · · Score: 1

      If some MP3-file is downloaded from MP3.com, that artist get some money. If that file is then distributed on P2P-systems, that artist can't get money. So, if redistribution is not explicitly allowed by that certain artist, you'd better not redistribute those MP3s in any way. There is some fineprint under every artist page in MP3.com.

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    2. Re:electronicscene.com by TeknoDragon · · Score: 1

      to my knowledge payback for playback (P4P) was being discontinued on mp3.com because of people "gaming the system"

      see http://mp3.com/edgey

  140. Just buy a negative scanner by acomj · · Score: 1

    I have a 4800 dpi 35 mm scanner.. I have scanned over 80 gigs of images.. It not that hard when each still is 90+meg (16 bit color per channel)..

    They add up really quick. And if there your own images you can share them legally..

    DO NOT CONVERT TO Jpeg.. That will save too much space!.. Save as uncompressed TIFF.

  141. Court Documents... by cymen · · Score: 1

    If you want to fill up on legal media files then check out all the state and federal court websites. Should be plenty of transcripts to fill up that 150gb drive! Billions of pages of legalese! What more could one ask for?

  142. old movies by archen · · Score: 1

    Find some old movies where the copyright has expired. There are quite a few of them, and I'm sure you could easily fill the 150 Gb with them alone. Just look at some of the lists for the best movies of the 1900's through the 50's. Some of them are available, a lot of them are not. I've actually looked for quite a few, and more often then not, they're just totally nowhere to be found.

    If you want to distribute them as fast as possible, just continually mislable them as "best porn ever", etc. and symlink them with all sorts of crazy names (assuming you're using a Unix type OS)

  143. Cheat by Unregistered · · Score: 1

    To access those hubs, just share junk. /usr does nicely. gentoo users can also share /var/tmp/portage.

  144. what about genbank... by chloroquine · · Score: 1
    the genomes aren't all that big, but when you start playing with genbank, things can get exciting... (well, exciting for a biologist at least)

    Did you know that back in the day genbank releases were distributed on CD? I've got one of the old ones hanging around my kitchen to remind me of how far sequencing technology has come.

    According to NCBI, GenBank has greater than 17 billion bases from greater than 100,000 species.

  145. leech.. by Suppafly · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No p2p network that is primarily interested in legal filesharing is going to put min share limits on the clients. This sounds like this guy wants to be able to download illegal stuff, but in return share legal stuff to dismiss his fears of being arrested for sharing all illegal stuff.

    1. Re:leech.. by 0x0d0a · · Score: 1

      And yet the only losers in this drama are people trying to pirate content who rely on a broken security model (sharing minimums), but want all the goodies for themselves.

      I have a hard time feeling sympathy.

      Come to think of it, those people (aside from the pirating content bit) are a lot like the RIAA/MPAA.

  146. Re:Sig word... by http · · Score: 1
    wouldn't that be
    my ($theorems) = Mathematician(@coffee) ;
    or do i need more coffee?
    --
    If opportunity came disguised as temptation, one knock would be enough.
    3^2 * 67^1 * 977^1
  147. ...and a shovelful of art, too by fendel · · Score: 1

    I want to collect 150GB of pure legal stuff.

    Sounds analogous to "I want to collect 600 pounds of books." Man, wish MY tastes were that unspecific...

  148. You are wrong about legality by abbamouse · · Score: 1

    The Berne Convention and WIPO treaties obligate the US to apply the same standards to foreign and domestic works. The treaties also specify that works are "copyrighted at birth" -- even if there is no copyright notice!
    I'm afraid the fact a foreign distributor does not or will not license a creative work in the US doesn't change the fact that the work is automatically protected under US law. Even worse, because of the rarity, the file may be judged to have a "street value" of $1000 (particularly if there are multiple files). This triggers the No Electronic Theft Act, which means you can not only be sued, but also be arrested and sent to federal no-parole prison! It's unfair, but it's the law.
    Having said that, I'd distribute the stuff anyway.

    --
    Make cheese not war 8:)
  149. Where the Hell did the 24 hour rumor start? by TibbonZero · · Score: 1

    Umm, where the hell did the 24 hour rumor start? Why in the world would that be legitamate? I am not bashing you, but I have seen more people say something about that- and I am currently studying copyright law, and there's nothing about 24 hours. To copy something you need to be paying someone (mechanical fees, etc), or get permission (usually written).

    I don't know who started it, but probably the same person that's started other urban myths...

    --
    Tibbon
    tibbon.com
    1. Re:Where the Hell did the 24 hour rumor start? by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      The 24-hour "disclaimer" is usually seen on the splash screen to a warez/appz/gamez/romz whatever site. Basically they think that by telling you that you have to delete the downloaded program or rom after 24 hours, that it is legal to share the copyrighted works. This 24 hour period will let you "test" it to make sure it is what you want.

      Usually the notice is followed up by a "If you work for the Police, FBI, CIA, NSA or someother TLA, you are hearby forbidden from accessing any content on this site." Both notices hold 0 legal credibility.

    2. Re:Where the Hell did the 24 hour rumor start? by KDan · · Score: 1

      A much better solution is to require the new user to contribute something *before* he can see what's on the ftp. Law enforcements won't be allowed to do that anymore than they are allowed to sell you coke and then bust you for possession of illegal drugs.

      Daniel

      --
      Carpe Diem
    3. Re:Where the Hell did the 24 hour rumor start? by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      Well, they could do two things...

      1. They could upload a 650 meg .iso that came from /dev/random. This would give them access to see what is there, download, and then press the charges

      -or-

      2. Upload a real program that they ARE authorized to copy. They get access, see what is there, download, and press charges.

      Of course they could always just talk with the ISP/host if it is available.

      An even better solution would be not to host an illegal server in the first place.

    4. Re:Where the Hell did the 24 hour rumor start? by KDan · · Score: 1

      No, what I was saying is they have to upload something and be approved by hand to join in. For tight communities with lots of content that nevertheless want to stay open to the outside world that works.

      Daniel

      --
      Carpe Diem
  150. Re:The collective wisdom of /. by caluml · · Score: 1

    Shhhhh...Don't tell Malda I've got root...

    [root@slashdot.org root]# du -sh /slashcomments/
    331Tb /slashcomments/

  151. great jam-band Brothers Past by SkyMunky · · Score: 1

    http://bp.thropter.com

  152. URL please? by yerricde · · Score: 1

    Lucas has always voiced his support of fanfilms.

    Even pornographic ones?

    And can you support your assertion with a URL?

    --
    Will I retire or break 10K?
  153. Sean Kennedy Wants Mirrored by serial+frame · · Score: 1

    Sean Kennedy, The Fucking Man (sktfm.tv) wants his episodes/broadcasts mirrored! His material is very informative, as well as extremely entertaining. Such media survives best in the wild.

    --

    -
    And the Angel said unto me, "These are the cries of the carrots! The cries of the carrots!"
  154. furhturnet by Phork · · Score: 2, Insightful

    check out furthurnet, http://furthurnet.org it is a p2p network meant just for legal live recordings of taper friendly artists. And they main format traded is shn, so single show can easily be 1 gigabyte.

    --
    -- free as in swatantryam - not soujanyam.
  155. Re:Find someone with the data and fedex a hard dri by Bald+Wookie · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now that you mention it, I've got a couple hundred gigs of great public domain content right here. Just send me the hard drives and beer and I'll get started...

  156. Six easy steps... by jonadab · · Score: 1

    1. Obtain sheet music for complete works of Bach
    2. Scan it all in
    3. Write special open-source music-OCR software that
    transcribes sheet music into MIDI format, and run
    your scanned sheet music through
    4. Use timidity or something to make WAV files out of it
    5. ???
    6. Profit!

    Of course, you'll need to hire a bunch of employees if you
    want to complete step 2 in a reasonable timeframe...

    --
    Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
  157. SVCDs by Erpo · · Score: 1

    Encode your porn into SVCD format (the most popular format for getting porn and being able to watch it in a standalone player). Pick a suitable quality level for both the audio and video and you'll quickly see that a 1 hour high quality porn should need approximately 4 700MB CD-Rs for distribution over Direct Connect.

    I think the maximum bitrate for standards-compliant SVCDs is ~2600Kb/sec.

    (2600Kbits/sec) * (1byte/8bits) * (60sec/min) * (60min/hour) = 1.170GB/hour. That's less than two cds.

    If the SVCD peaks over that bitrate then it becomes a non-standard XSVCD and there are compatibility risks. Not every 480x480 29.97 or 23.976*fps (or 480x576 25fps if you're in PAL-land) mpeg2 file is an SVCD.

    *For everyone that's thinking that should be 29.97002997 or 23.97602398fps, or even (30000/1001) or (4/5)*(30000/1001)fps, there's a nit on your keyboard. You'd better go pick it before it gets away! ;)

  158. FurthurNet.Net by JT_Palmer · · Score: 1

    ======= FurthurNet.net: Legal Music Sharing Network...which only trades live concerts where musicians have previously agreed to the taping and trading of their shows. Here is a link to the bandlist: http://furthurnet.net/bandlist/ Examples: 311, Agents of Good Roots, Ani DiFranco, Ben Harper, Bjork, Black Crowes, Blind Melon, Etc....Check the list for your favorite Band...I found Radiohead and Beck!!!! Truly live rarities!!! Good Luck

  159. I'm in the same boat. by arcadum · · Score: 1
    I was listening to Phish, while realizing the future of music.

    The record companies are going to be degraded to Engeered bands and the remaining performers are going to accumulate wealth through ticket sales and devote fans buying albums.

    It's always great to hear from the "enlightened," crowed.

    ---
    Never stop dreaming.

  160. expered copyrights by itzdandy · · Score: 1

    their are thousands of songs that no longer have copyright, just amass a collection of the oldiest, ALL of the oldies, get everything before ~1983(i think, isn't music copyrighted for 20 years?) and your set.

  161. Ingenious Logic by vso · · Score: 1

    Yeah this makes perfect sense to me. Share 100gigs of Legit stuff so you are able to connect to hubs with large share requirements so you can download large amounts illegal files. Excellent idea, why didn't I think of that. Next time the RIAA etc sues me for having illegal stuff I'll just reverse the logic and claim I was hosting it so that I would be able to download legal files.

  162. Let the government work for you by MickLinux · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Okay, here's my idea: lots and lots of government documents.

    First, any law archives you can get. Any commentary. You should be able to find tons of stuff out there, and it would be useful.

    Second, all FOIA info that is online, which you can get.

    Third, all government publications: "Statistics of Income", for example, is a huge archive.

    Fourth, -- and here's a techie POV: see if you could get NASA docs online. There's all kinds of useful stuff out there, from such things as the low-speed GA-W-1 or Clark-Y standard wing sections, to hypersonic data, to investigation results from the Challenger, to -- you know what's coming now, because of Columbia.

    Fifth, anything from any of the engineering societies that you can distribute online, do. I'd be willing to bet that a lot of them have books that are out of publication and will not be republished. You may be able to get them in PDF format. Chapter by chapter, that could be a great P2P download.

    If you do this, I'm willing to bet you'll get a ton of downloads. Lawyers, engineers, do-it-yourselfers, and so on would all be using your service.

    BTW: Thanks for trying to go P2P the legal route, and respecting law.

    --
    Correct Horse Battery Staple: 72 bits of entropy. Enter "Correct H" into google. When it generates the phrase, that's
  163. Debian Mirror by Briareos · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't think there's an easier and faster way to fill up approximately 80 GB of your disk than putting a full Debian repository on it... (trust me - I should know; I just had to throw a few arches out of our local mirror as the 80 gig partition we've got reserved for it was 99% full... and that's without mirroring potato...)

    Now all we need is a P2P-method for apt... *g*

    Oh yeah, throw in a few CD images of Debian (or some other Linux distro) and you'll fill up your drive in no time...

    np: The Orb - Ubiquity (Orblivion)

    --

    "I'm not anti-anything, I'm anti-everything, it fits better." - Sole

  164. Video Lectures by Hal Abelson and Gerald Jay Sussm by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 1
    Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs Video Lectures by Hal Abelson and Gerald Jay Sussman

    http://www.swiss.ai.mit.edu/classes/6.001/abelson- sussman-lectures/

    --

    "If anything can go wrong, it will." - Murphy

  165. SHN by The+Inphidel · · Score: 1

    Check out www.etree.org. You could have 1000 gigs worth of SHNs and still be legal.

  166. Starship Exeter is really cool by Saiai+Hakutyoutani · · Score: 1

    I think it still remains at

    http://flapdoodle.org/exeter/ , add a www. for good measure if it doesn't work.

    It's a classic, fanmade Star Trek episode!

    teaser.mov is part of the episode, and trailer.mov or whatever is the last act.

    Go get it!

  167. Make your own video(s) by thempstead · · Score: 1
    Capture some input from a camcorder ... that should avoid copyright issues and you could have interesting files like grassgrowing.mpg or paintdrying.mpg.

    t

  168. P2P getting unfair bad rap by 0x0d0a · · Score: 1

    P2P architectures are a pretty solid delivery system. Using them for software distribution (as a backend to apt or yum, say), would massively decrease load on main servers.

    Freenet is a perfect example of a general content-distribution system that takes advantage of the more efficient P2P architecture, though its insistence upon privacy brings it far down in performance.

  169. Re:One word... (genomes) by ponos · · Score: 1


    It's not as much information as you
    think it is.

    Genbank primates (i.e. monkeys-humans)
    fits on two CDs compressed. Of course,
    if you want EVERYTHING and uncompressed
    you can get a few GBs (including fragments,
    flies, bacteria etc etc).

    I'm not quite sure about the total amount
    of information available right now, but
    the interesting stuff should be much less
    than a 2-hour raw video ;-)

    P.

  170. Martin Niem�ller by harmonica · · Score: 1

    The quote is by Martin Niemöller:

    Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten,
    habe ich geschwiegen;
    Ich war ja kein Kommunist.
    Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten,
    habe ich geschwiegen;
    ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.
    Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten,
    habe ich geschwiegen;
    ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.
    Als sie die Juden holten, habe ich geschwiegen,
    ich war ja kein Jude.
    Als sie mich holten, gab es keinen mehr,
    der protestieren konnte.

    Here's a page with an English translation.

  171. Simple: by peterpi · · Score: 1
    1. Connect microphone to computer.
    2. Press 'record'
    3. ?????
    4. Profit!
  172. Re:Find someone with the data and fedex a hard dri by jeffy210 · · Score: 1

    fed-ex a couple large hard drives across the country...

    "Never underestimate the bandwith of a station wagon full of tapes" :)

    --
    ------
    "And may your days be long upon the earth."
  173. A quick way to fake... by Bowie+J.+Poag · · Score: 1


    while true
    do
    ln -s $RANDOM.mpeg bigfrigginfile.mpeg
    done

    Let that run for a few seconds in thy warez directory. Instant motherlode. DirectConnect can't distinguish between normal files and softlinks.

    --
    Bowie J. Poag

  174. Mirroring Gutenberg by gbnewby · · Score: 3, Informative

    For servers based in the US not trying to profit, there is no restriction on mirroring Project Gutenberg. In fact, we'll even list you in our official mirrors list (http://www.gutenberg.net/list.html) if you'd like!

    If you're outside of the US, you might be mirroring some stuff that is under copyright in your country. But many mirrors still do this, prefering to mirror the whole collection rather than try to select items based on copyright rules. For commercial redistribution, the "small print" applies (basically, you need to pay a trademark fee -- details are in each eBook).

    Here is the skinny:

    The Project Gutenberg etext collection is distributed primarily by
    FTP, although you can have your Web server point to the same directory
    and distribute by HTTP. For example, these addresses point to the
    same content:

    ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/docs/books/gutenberg
    an d http://www.ibiblio.org/gutenberg

    (though ftp or rsync is best for mirroring; see below)

    The collection is over 16GB (January 2003), and expected to grow another
    few GB this year. New etexts are added almost every day, so it's best
    to mirror nightly.

    Our experience has been that a static IP address and T1 (~1.5Mb
    symmetric) or better permanent network connection is desirable for
    mirroring; DSL and cable modems do not seem to offer the necessary
    bandwidth and sometimes suffer stability problems.

    The best place to mirror from currently is our master download site at
    ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/docs/books/gutenberg . Most mirrors use
    rsync (easiest), wget (easy) or the mirror PERL software (requires
    some configuration). Here is an overview for each:

    1. Rsync (available for all Unix systems; standard on Linux). The last
    argument is the local directory for the mirror destination:

    rsync -rlHtSv --delete ftp@ftp.ibiblio.org::gutenberg /home/ftp/pub/mirrors/gute
    nberg

    2. Wget: Freely available from any GNU mirror. With appropriate
    command-line options, this can be used with either a HTTP or FTP
    interface, but please use the FTP URL above for Project Gutenberg.
    The key is to only get updated files, not files you already have. A
    wget command line that should work with some adjustment for your local
    needs (run it from wherever you want the mirror to go) is:

    wget --mirror --no-host-directories --passive-ftp --no-parent --cut-dirs=4 \
    --output-file=/tmp/wget-gutenberg.log \
    ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/docs/books/gutenberg

    The wget homepage is http://www.gnu.org/gnulist/production/wget.html

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    help you set this up for a Unix system. The mirror PERL software has
    been reported to work with PERL for WinNT, as well as Unix/Linux/BSD.
    Note that the wu-ftpd software patch supplied with the program must be
    applied for it to work!

    For any mirror method, run a daily job to check for newly updated
    files. Unix/Linux employs cron for this; Windows systems could use
    the task scheduler.

    I can help you with setting up the mirroring software, or any other
    details, if you would like.

    We don't distribute the Web-based search engine that's available on
    the main PG page at http://promo.net/pg. However, we'll add your site
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    Once you tell us your mirror is active, we'll announce it in our next
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    Let me know how else I can help. If you decide to go ahead with the
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    Thanks again for getting in touch! And, thanks for your interest in
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    1. Re:Mirroring Gutenberg by mozkill · · Score: 1

      you can also use HTTrack to do the same thing as WGET...

      --

      -- Betting on the survival of the media industry is a serious risk. I advise investing elsewhere.
  175. ISOs and Such. by BenTheDewpendent · · Score: 1

    There are tools that allow you to mount ISO, BIN, and alike for windows. Daemon Tools i belive. But take and image of all your CDs and then mount the images up as needed rather than hunting for CDs.

  176. Here's 700 MB by fugue · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have a site dedicated to providing free classical music recordings. The recordings are performances that I've been part of (some are not great, but there are a few real gems), and I'd cleared the legality with the other members of the groups, sound engineers, etc. I'd like to see more people do this, and in the interest of encouraging this, please check out my Free Classical Music archive.

    -Ben

    --
    "The biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has taken place."
  177. Spam by H3g3m0n · · Score: 1

    Why not have an archive of every spam email you have, including all the images. ISOs of every AOL cd you have gotten.

    --
    cat /dev/urandom > .sig
  178. Recommended SHNs by danboid · · Score: 1

    tRANSELEMENt were added to Furthurnet today! tE are quite easily one of the best contemporary British bands, but the press have only recently started to latch onto this. Their 'Live in Lincoln' album has been available to download off SunSITE's Jamz server for quite some time now, but now it's even easier to download/ get to hear my favorite new band live!

    The 22/02/02 Lincoln gig was professionally recorded and sounds better than many commercial live albums. If you like guitar music you will not be disappointed- download it NOW!

    dan

  179. Probably too late but.. by Zara2 · · Score: 1

    This is probably too late for anyone to read but I happen to run a DC hub with a minimum of several gb of legal files. The file types are all live recordings of phish friendly bands that allow taping in shn format (lossless audio compression. More information on this type of legal music trading can be found at www.etree.org. My wife's and mine personal music list for trade is at http://db2.etree.org/happysheep.

    --

    Pithy, yet ultimately meaningless, phrase expressed with gusto!

  180. Free music (in the sense of freedom) by juhtolv · · Score: 3, Informative

    There exist many musicians, that think about music in more or less same way as Free Software Foundation thinks about software: It must be free as a bird. Some of them are against a notion of "copyright" and "intellectual property".

    So, get some free music. It will fill at least few gigabytes. Some of that music has such licence, that forbids selling that music, but for your purpose even that kind of music is good.

    Here are my URLs:

    http://www.ram.org/ramblings/philosophy/fmp/fma. ht ml
    http://www.ram.org/ramblings/philosophy/fmp.ht ml
    http://www.ram.org/ramblings/philosophy/fmp/co pyin g_primer.html
    http://www.twisted-helices.com/th/t wisted_helices. html

    http://www.negativland.com/

    http://logosfoundation.org/
    http://logosfoundat ion.org/copyleft/copyrigh.html

    http://www.janisian.com/

    http://kotisivu.mtv3.fi/hipit/

    http://www.vorbis.com/
    http://www.vorbis.com/mu sic.psp
    http://www.vorbis.com/musicsites.psp

    http://www.creativecommons.org/

    --
    Juhapekka "naula" Tolvanen - http://iki.fi/juhtolv
  181. Host Religious Writings to smuggle into China by MS_leases_my_soul · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I quickly amassed over 5 GB of religious documents and writings that I was hosting in an effort to smuggle them into China. It took less than 2 weeks to gather that much data from the Vatican website (vatican.va) and other Catholic websites.

    Funny thing about religious documents -- people give them away for free, will actually pay other people to distribute them, and some countries try to squash them for political reasons. But, hey, the minute you start trying to talk about *LEGITIMATE* uses of P2P...

  182. Ditched the propriatary media by awgriff279 · · Score: 1

    I finally got tired of the legal / ethical debate of using propriatary media. So I deleted several gigs and am starting over, looking for the good stuff that hasn't been commercialized. So far mp3.com and bmwfilms has had some good content.