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Realistic Portrayals of Software Programmers?

lwbecker2 asks: "Warren Harrison has written a thought-provoking editorial piece on The Software Developer as Movie Icon. He explores the fact that new entrants to Computer Science curriculum are typically clueless about what 'real' developers actually do. While researching the issue of why this is the case, he determined that some potential CS degree seekers are forming opinions from portrayals in movies and cinema. He describes what he asserts to be inaccurate portrayals of developers in War Games, TRON, and The Net, and asks for input and opinions on 'the impact of the cinema and television on new software developers' expectations, as well as learn of any films that do a better job of portraying our profession...' I am sure Slashdot readers have some input on this, and I am curious if people believe _any_ movie has acurately portrayed software developers?"

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  1. office space jokes... by jpsst34 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... are so obvious here that no one needs to make any. If you do, I might set the building on fire.

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    How are you going to keep them down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus?
    1. Re:office space jokes... by mrtroy · · Score: 3, Funny

      First off...office space is SOOO unrealistic.
      *Cough*Swordfish*Cough*
      The average computer programmer does all of his programming at night, while drinking lots of wine??? (ewww hit the hard stuff already) and while hallie barry is naked in the room with you.
      Oh and you have like 50 computer screens in front of you all showing rotating 3d objects. No...not for 3d development...for straight programming silly. Dont you have that C++ addon?

      If you can get all the pretty shapes to align then you are done!
      *cough*Office Space*cough* But you must keep all this a secret, last time I told my boss that he asked what real work I had got done in the last month and then fired me...but then i stayed and they kept moving my desk...but i kept my stapler.

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    2. Re:office space jokes... by pyite · · Score: 3, Funny

      Really? I thought that was the new 3D environment for emacs. =P

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      "Nature doesn't care how smart you are. You can still be wrong." - Richard Feynman

    3. Re:office space jokes... by jpsst34 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Now why would it run on an eMac but not a power mac?

      Sorry, couldn't resist.

      Would an eMac explode if you used VI to edit on it?

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      How are you going to keep them down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus?
    4. Re:office space jokes... by Ooblek · · Score: 4, Funny
      I resent that!

      I got my interest in pursuing a CS degree when Tron came out. I wanted to make the MCP so it could kick everyone's ass.

      I still can't figure out why no one likes the glow-in-the-dark frisbee I wear on my back every day. Its an icon of personal expression! I would be nothing more than a simple VB programmer without it!

      OK, next question....if the MCP and HAL went head to head, who would win?

    5. Re:office space jokes... by faqBastard · · Score: 3, Interesting

      OK, next question....if the MCP and HAL went head to head, who would win?

      That's a highly irregular question, Dave. :-)

      MCP wins for more spectacular death, HAL wins for more memorable death. Though I guess the Daisy bit wasn't really his death, that came with the whole Jupiter ignition thing...

    6. Re:office space jokes... by andrew_0812 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think that there are several good movies out there that are pretty accurate. Here's one for example. Or maybe this one.

    7. Re:office space jokes... by Sabalon · · Score: 3, Funny

      I remember programming in BASIC and was all excited that there was a TRON (TRace ON) command.

      It just blew my mind.

  2. Office Space by dubbayu_d_40 · · Score: 4, Funny

    was pretty accurate.

    1. Re:Office Space by the+gnat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Especially any scene involving the all-purpose appliance. Before I leave my current job, I swear I'm going to take an axe to our Xerox laser printer.

    2. Re:Office Space by syle · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't know about you, but I've never dated Jennifer Aniston.

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      /syle

    3. Re:Office Space by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 2, Funny

      There was the TV movie "The Pirates of Silicon Valley"

      Unfortunately, the main characters weren't typical programmers, but there was some reality mixed in there...

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      That what was all this school was for... to teach us how to solve our own problems. -- janeowit
    4. Re:Office Space by TopShelf · · Score: 4, Funny

      It was also, perhaps, an accurate portrayal of the hell of modern family restaurants. Got enough flair???

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    5. Re:Office Space by ides · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah Office Space or maybe even the fat guy in the original Jurassic Park. His attitude I have seen mirrored in many a developer.

    6. Re:Office Space by slaker · · Score: 3, Funny

      The utter tragedy of my life is that I might as well be Wayne Knight's twin.

      Thanks for being the 10th person today to remind me that I'm just like "the fat guy in Jurassic Park".

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      -- I wanna decide who lives and who dies - Crow T. Robot, MST3K
    7. Re:Office Space by Root+Down · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The whole issue of 'flair' and the office issues are really one and the same: it's all about being ra-ra-ra for a company that is much less ra-ra-ra in return. It's all 'smile pretty and join the team or you're outta here' - no matter how much you detest its inanity.

      Did you get the memo about the TPS report?

    8. Re:Office Space by Watcher · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'll take an axe to the flashing red light hanging right over developers so everyone knows a client site is down. Even though all of the developers who can do anything about it are already involved in fixing the problem.

      This was management's brilliant idea for showing that we're "doing something". All it really did was piss off all of the developers by telling the world we need a red light to do our jobs.

    9. Re:Office Space by scovetta · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think morale would sky-rocket if finance, marketing, advertising, etc girls were mixed along with development.

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      Wer mit Ungeheuern kämpft, mag zusehn, dass er nicht dabei zum Ungeheuer wird. --Nietzsche
  3. Pretty accurate by govtcheez · · Score: 3, Funny

    Most of the software people I know look just like Hugh Jackman, get to hook up with Halle Berry, and routinely do neat secret agent stuff.

    Or at least I wish they did. Office Space has the most accurate portrayal of programmers I've ever seen in a movie.

  4. Yes there is one... by KDan · · Score: 5, Funny

    But it was so boring it never got published.

    Daniel

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    Carpe Diem
    1. Re:Yes there is one... by Teach · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This pretty much nails it, here. Signal 11 said something on Slashdot a couple of years ago regarding this that I saved:

      "Let's face it: the life of a geek is boring. We spend all day in front of our computers checking our e-mail, coding, and sitting on our duff doing 'nothing'. At least to the untrained eye. On the molecular level, however, we are quite busy."

      Couldn't have said it better myself. It's just hard to make this profession look interesting on the big screen.

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      Graham "Teach" Mitchell, computer science teacher, Leander HS
    2. Re:Yes there is one... by natet · · Score: 2
      Oh and a lot of software development involves a lot of talking (in meetings, or just informally), which is surely the bread and butter of film.


      Except, who would pay money to watch a bunch of Software Engineers sit around and talk about the implementation of a system. Most meetings, if I hadn't been required to sit there, I wouldn't have been there at all!
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      IANAL... But I play one on /.
  5. got one... by igottheloot · · Score: 5, Funny

    revenge of the nerds.

    1. Re:got one... by dkarney · · Score: 2, Informative

      The movie Hackers. ...well atleast I can dream that my female coworkers were like Angelina Jolie.

      _Hack the Planet!_

  6. duh. by Telastyn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Has the film industry portrayed any normal person accurately? No. Normal people are boring.

    1. Re:duh. by mike_mgo · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Exactly.

      Most cops aren't out there chasing down serial killers, most lawyers aren't fighting some evil corporation, and I doubt many spies blow up a whole lot of stuff. But movies about writing traffic tickets, filing divorce papers and staring at satellite photos aren't that exciting.

      You've really got to get out a little more if you're basing career decisions on the movies.

    2. Re:duh. by DaveAtFraud · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The *first rule* for viewing anything that comes out of Hollywood is SUSPEND DISBELIEF. Why stop at complaining that Hollywood doesn't portray "normal people" accurately? Hell, these are the same people whose guns never run out of ammunition (unless its needed for the plot), people firing pistols can hit their target from a car going 90 mph down a bumpy residential street while the driver swerves to avoid obstacles and someone else shooting back at them, explosions in space make noise, tires squeal on dirt roads, etc. Why take Hollywood to task for not accurately portraying some "normal people" when they can't even accurately portray physical reality?

      This may explain why my taste in movies from Hollywood tends towards commedies (they're supposed to not represent reality) or fantasy (what reality?).

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      Ben
    3. Re:duh. by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "The Patriot" depicted events which bore no resemblance to the actual conduct of the Revolutionary War. Nothing plausible about them at all.

      There were a handful of well-documented atrocities against civilians, but nothing on the scale presented in that film. The British were trained to conduct a very "civilized" style of warfare, and although this was stressed by the colonists' reluctance to wear uniforms, they never attacked obvious civilians.

      In particular, the burning of a church full of civilians is something that the forces of Vlad the Impaler and Adolf Hitler have both done, but the Redcoats would never consider such a thing.

      What if I created a film about a real 14th centruy Pope, and had him conduct murderous Black Masses? Would that be OK? It would all depend on how it was portrayed. If an obvious fantasy, then it's fine. If I use it merely as the backdrop for some other story, and present those events as if they'd really happened, then I've committed a double wrong: my audience has been mis-educated, and the Vactican has been defamed.

      "The Butcher" really did exist

      The fact that he did exist makes more wrong. To create a fictional man to commit warcrimes is one thing. To invent major atrocities and assign them to a person who merely executed some prisoners is another. (His actions were somewhat defensible even by modern rules of war. "Spies"- combatants without uniforms- were often executed in 20th century combat)

      You want to watch some guy wash colonial dishes for two hours? I sure don't.

      We could watch some guy battle British troops for two hours. That really happened, and would be exciting. We could even exaggerate the hero's prowess, and let him play decisive role in every major battle. But the producer of "The Patriot" decided to underscore the hero's goodness by exaggerating his enemy's badness, and in so doing, libelled an entire nation.

      • Fictional man, doing good: no problem.
      • Real man, doing good: Author may be misrepresenting the truth, but it's positive, so there's few complaints.
      • Fictional man, doing bad: The audience knows it's all fake, so no harm done.
      • Real man, doing bad: The author is spreading lies.

    4. Re:duh. by sean23007 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Actually, there are four primary rules for watching movies coming out of Hollywood. Here they are:
      1. Do not talk.
      2. Do not talk.
      3. Do not ask questions.
      4. He is always still alive.
      I hope that clears some things up. Feel free to quote these rules when someone is bugging you throughout the movie trying to get you to explain what just happened and asking you incredulously if the bad guy or good guy is really dead.
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      Lack of eloquence does not denote lack of intelligence, though they often coincide.
  7. What? by cybermace5 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Computer guys are the ones that hack into computers in a minimum of keystrokes, and say "We're in." And they always develop some evil artificial intelligence that threatens the world, and they can get incredible detail from a blurry photo simply by saying "Enhancing." Everybody knows this stuff.

    I don't think the portrayal is inaccurate at all. But then I'm an EE.

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  8. Most Accurate Portrayal of a Computer Award... by $$$$$exyGal · · Score: 5, Funny
    The most accurate portrayal of a computer has to be when the little girl says: "I know this, this is UNIX" - Jurassic Park.

    --sex

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    1. Re:Most Accurate Portrayal of a Computer Award... by tmhsiao · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Of course you're being sarcastic, but that silly looking 3D system was actually an SGI product called fsn, pronounced "fusion," and it ran on IRIX 4.0.1+ machines...

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    2. Re:Most Accurate Portrayal of a Computer Award... by SirSlud · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Am I the only guy who gets pissed when mission critical systems are portrayed in movies as over-the-top guis that take for ever to do something .. and that the complete lack of sane interface design is used to build tension?

      Its how you can almost bet that any car you need to make a getaway in, in a movie, is bound to need 3 minutes of engine turning to start ...

      Can we ditch that cliche already, hollywood? Both of them?

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      "Old man yells at systemd"
    3. Re:Most Accurate Portrayal of a Computer Award... by iabervon · · Score: 3, Funny

      The scary thing is that that was actually UNIX running one of the weird SGI window managers. Somewhat unsurprisingly, the makers of a movie featuring special effects knew about more IRIX than the geeks in the audience... (what you didn't see was that she navigated through all of that stuff to get to an xterm, and then she typed a command with 6 pipes and more punctuation than letters, but that wasn't on camera)

    4. Re:Most Accurate Portrayal of a Computer Award... by Havokmon · · Score: 4, Funny
      (what you didn't see was that she navigated through all of that stuff to get to an xterm, and then she typed a command with 6 pipes and more punctuation than letters, but that wasn't on camera)

      Everyone who's anyone knows that's the VI macro for 'turn on the power'

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      "I can't give you a brain, so I'll give you a diploma" - The Great Oz (blatently stolen sig)
    5. Re:Most Accurate Portrayal of a Computer Award... by scott1853 · · Score: 3, Funny

      guis that take for ever to do something

      And what part of that statement are you saying is fiction?

    6. Re:Most Accurate Portrayal of a Computer Award... by jon+doh! · · Score: 2, Funny

      in the movie, "The Score" with Edward Norton, he sets his laptop up to do some diabolical deed, then checks his watch before he hits the enter key, and starts his evil script.

      the command he types in?

      "ls -A"

    7. Re:Most Accurate Portrayal of a Computer Award... by mlush · · Score: 2, Funny
      The most accurate portrayal of a computer has to be when the little girl says: "I know this, this is UNIX" - Jurassic Park.

      I found it particularly amusing as early on she was visibly impressed by the rather curde multimedia boxes in the tour cars..... and God the windows manager! It used the power of two Crays and still ran like a dog

    8. Re:Most Accurate Portrayal of a Computer Award... by nojomofo · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm getting a bit OT here, but did anybody else notice in "Face Off" (why did I see that movie??), when he (whichever person it is) is busy breaking out of the super-top-security prison, he gets to the computer and (I swear that I'm not making this up) chooses the "Short out electrical system" option that is on the GUI? Because, of course, people often want to intentionally short out their electrical systems, especially when it's going to result in cascades of sparks and the disarmament of the security system of a prison....

    9. Re:Most Accurate Portrayal of a Computer Award... by irix · · Score: 4, Informative

      fsn stands for "file system navigator" - you can still get it from SGI here.

      You need an old version of IRIX to run it (5.3) and I remember doing so back in the day. Basically you can "fly" through the filesystem hierarchy, and the vertical bars are the sizes of the files, colors are for age and the height of the base is the size of the directory.

      Nothing you can't accomplish with du and ls, but great for impressing people in a movie :-)

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      Do you even know anything about perl? -- AC Replying to Tom Christiansen post.
    10. Re:Most Accurate Portrayal of a Computer Award... by wossName · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, and now you can have it too !

      Anything like that for Linux ?

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    11. Re:Most Accurate Portrayal of a Computer Award... by supergiovane · · Score: 2, Funny
      I think that when he talked about fiction he was referring to

      complete lack of sane interface design.

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      Signatures are for stupids.
  9. Sadly, by SplendidIsolatn · · Score: 4, Informative

    Office Space is much closer to reality than fiction for programmers, even though they are a sidebar in the story. Most people in programming are not going to be sitting in their own world, and will have to be interactive in an office environment. In most cases, you better get used to the drugery of TPS reports and interacting with people from a wide variety of departments rather than slamming out code.

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  10. Office Space by Fished · · Score: 4, Informative
    Office Space accurately portrayed the pit of hell that is corporate software development:
    http://us.imdb.com/Title?0151804
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  11. I know a movie that accurately portrays me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I feel that the movie "Pi" is an accurate portrayal of software developers. After the first couple days of each week, listening to the sales manager tell every potential customer that we can do absolutely anything virtually for free and yesterday, I wish I could drill a hole in my skull too.

  12. so what's new? by mgs1000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Do cop shows accurately depict cops?
    Do westerns accurately depict cowboys?
    Do war movies accurately depict soldiers?
    Does pr0n accurately depict sex?
    The list goes on...

    1. Re:so what's new? by jpsst34 · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Does pr0n accurately depict sex?"

      Yes. Duh. For me sex always involves at least 9 people, wives who don't care, and lots of toys, preferably of the mechanically driven kind. Oh, and people shaving one another. Gotta have that.

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      How are you going to keep them down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus?
    2. Re:so what's new? by PD · · Score: 2, Funny

      re: cop shows

      The next time you see a cop car sitting in the corner of a parking lot, answer this question:

      What is the cop doing?
      a) he's eating his donuts
      b) he's trying to catch a master car thief
      c) he's going to swoop in on a drug deal
      d) sleeping
      e) he's trying to get an inch thick stack of paperwork done so he can get back to his real job: driving around on his regular patrol and keeping one ear on the radio just in case he needs to take another police report.

    3. Re:so what's new? by hondo77 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Does pr0n accurately depict sex?

      Are you kidding? For most people here, pr0n is sex.

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  13. Wait, you mean TRON wasn't accurate? by gwizah · · Score: 2, Funny

    What self-respecting developer hasn't pictured himself immersed in a high-tech world interacting with characters and enviroments controlled by a hostile master control program, Fighting for change against impossible odds?

    Oh wait, you aren't reffering to .NET developers are you?

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  14. Problem is story-telling, not stereotype by CommieLib · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The basic problem is that simple stories require simple characters, and generally, we're not talking Jane Austen where computers are involved.

    Display a computer programmer that works out, or has a family, etc., that takes time out from the CG and explosions. It also confuses the stupid audience that flocks to the picture...

    Having said that, I thought Hugh Jackman's programmer in Swordfish was presented as pretty cool, even the rest of the movie was totally goat.

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    If your bitterest enemies are people who hack the heads off civilians, then I would say you're doing something right.
  15. They're always background characters. by dpplgngr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Those nerds that Matthew Broderick went to ask questions of in Wargames.

    The fat hacker in Jurassic Park.

    In enemy of the state there was some guy (Jack Black) in a van.

    On and on...

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  16. "Antitrust" is the only one that's even come close by RichardtheSmith · · Score: 3, Informative

    It shows programmers working their asses off on some new communications system...

  17. Bigger, Longer & Uncut by Mr+Fodder · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm convinced the prediction for Mr. Gates in the South Park movie will eventually come to pass.

  18. It's not just programmers by marsvin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hollywood doesn't portray anything or anyone accurately, not just programmers, but secret agents, scientists (the most dangerous profession, according to the movies), police officers, psychiatrists, airline pilots, women, and vegetarians as well... even "normal" people are somehow made extra-normal on the screen.

    If you look to films and television for career guidance, chances are you wouldn't make a good programmer anyway.

  19. Life of a Software Programmer by Nept · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bob Slydell: If you would, would you walk us through a typical day, for you?

    Peter Gibbons: Yeah.

    Bob Slydell: Great.

    Peter Gibbons: Well, I generally come in at least fifteen minutes late, ah, I use the side door--that way Lumbergh can't see me, heh--after that I sorta space out for an hour.

    Bob Porter: Da-uh? Space out?

    Peter Gibbons: Yeah, I just stare at my desk, but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch too, I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work.

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  20. RevolutionOS by ForsakenRegex · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It doesn't get anymore accurate.

    http://us.imdb.com/Title?0308808

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    "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."
  21. Too Late to Change Perception by duck_prime · · Score: 4, Funny

    If the mass media has a silly view of programmers, it is too late to change it. When I first saw Jurassic Park, and they had that scene in the outdoor cafe where they start zooming in on the greasy fat unpleasant guy, one phrase was zooming through my mind over and over: "Please God don't let him be the evil computer guy."

    Me and God have to have a little talk.

    1. Re:Too Late to Change Perception by Cruciform · · Score: 3, Funny

      Maybe because we form a lot of our opinions about people in childhood? After all, when you're 6 years old, and every kid on the playground is kinda scruffy at the end of lunch hour, the game of tag ends with the sweaty fat kid with the ice cream bar residue on his hands and shirt sits on you... well, that's pretty god damn traumatic.

      So from then on, in your minds eye, every overweight person is just an extension of that fat bastard who dripped butterscotch ripple and sweat on you in grade one and left you emotionally scarred till the end of your days...

      just a guess... :)

  22. Realistic by sagwalla · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I am sure Slashdot readers have some input on this, and I am curious if people believe _any_ movie has acurately portrayed software developers?

    Weird Science?

  23. startup.com by gosand · · Score: 5, Informative
    Yep. startup.com was a pretty accurate portrayal. IMDB Link

    It was a documentary, and it was real people, but what do you want, another Office Space comment?

    Actually, a pretty accurate portrayal of a programmer in a movie was in Pump Up the Volume, even though he ran a pirate radio station and wasn't a programmer. He worked out of his parent's basement, was a loner, and had a different on-air personality than in real life.

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  24. Alot of misrepresentation in movies by aridhol · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Nothing in the movies is ever represented properly. Face it. Who would watch a cop show if 95% of it was patrolling the streets issuing parking tickets?

    Most people have some idea of what a cop is. They know what the army does. They can identify a firefighter in uniform nine times out of ten.

    Outside of the computer industry, nobody knows what a programmer is. They don't know that there's more to computers than Windows, so why should they know about computers?

    One portrayal that annoys my wife and me is the portrayal of people in chemical/microbiological suits. The suits always look good on the actors. My wife works in one (she studies ebola). It's a big blue vinyl bag. Not form-fitting. It tends to make you look like the Stay-Puft Marshmallow man. It's uncomfortable. You have to shout to be heard in them.

    So remember, programmers are not the only groups misrepresented. We're probably not the most misrepresented group. Next time you watch a show that includes any real-life profession, ask yourself how close they are to reality. Then complain about programmers being misrepresented.

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    1. Re:Alot of misrepresentation in movies by mshomphe · · Score: 3, Funny
      Who would watch a cop show if 95% of it was patrolling the streets issuing parking tickets?

      I'd watch it so I'd know when a @#$)(^@ cop was about to ticket my car!
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    2. Re:Alot of misrepresentation in movies by Cruciform · · Score: 4, Funny

      Man, if my girlfriend worked on ebola I'd be very careful to let her win *any* arguments we had. And if she ever sneezed while we were snuggled up, it would be very expensive to fix the whole I would leave in the wall as I ran through it.

  25. my personal hacker movie list by collin.m · · Score: 4, Informative

    just yesterday I did compile a list with all movies on this subject that I know of, with a short rating and a feature list.

  26. Re:Sweet Mother of crap by govtcheez · · Score: 3, Funny

    >think that shooting nerf guns in the office makes them "cool."

    I don't understand. Are you saying that nerf guns aren't cool?

    Alright, boys - take away his geek license.

  27. of course not by jasuus · · Score: 2

    Who would watch a movie where the main character spent the majority of his day in meetings drinking bad coffee and arguing what is "billable" and what is "non-billable" in the recent deployment of a patch set?

  28. this is ridiculous. by fjordboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm not trying to be redundant or anything here...but the second I saw the newspost, I thought of Officespace and how incredibly clever I was coming up with that name. I was thinking of my +5 "Insightful" score and how after people saw how clever I was and how knowledgable with movies I was, my self-confidence would be boosted and I'd be certain to find a woman. However, after clicking "read more" and discovering that 99.9% of all the posts refer to Officespace in one way or another, I was horribly dissappointed. But..I still wanted to post just to show that I'm still clever even if I wasn't the first one.

  29. here's a day in my life... by tx_mgm · · Score: 5, Funny

    so you're looking for accurate depictions of software programmers in movies? i hope this helps!
    i usually roll out of bed around 11 or noon (up all night clubbin wit da ladies!) and drive to work in my brand new hummer, completely disregarding traffic signals, speed limits and roads in general. assuming there arent any high speed chases with the bad guys on the way, i make it in to work in time for the boss to yell at me again for "violating protocol" again! im such an eXtreme programmer and i do things my way! thats about when the terrorists show up to the building to take my girlfriend hostage, forcing me to have to fight them all with my bare hands and the occasional uzi taken from fallen enemies (everyone else is taken hostage too, so im the only one that can fight). since im so ripped, i can streetfight anyone and win easily! at around 4 or 5 pm i manage to get to the leader and fight him to the death at the top of the building, throwing him off in the process. once i get my woman back, we get it on and then im off to the clubs for the night! but trouble arises at the club......

    oh wait, you want honesty? well heres honesty: unless its a comedy, dont make movies about software developers!

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  30. Well... by iamdrscience · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Tron wasn't that far off for its day, at that time there were a lot fewer large programming projects and as such a lot fewer teams of developers. It was much more common for a programmer to work by himself or herself than it is today.

    Also, while War Games obviously wasn't 100% accurate, it was definitely more realistic than the Net, Hackers and a lot of other movies featuring programmers.

    Movies aren't even meant to be 100% accurate, they're meant to be entertaining, it just happens that Firefighting and law enforcement are professions that are more entertaining than computer programming so they have to be changed less. Even those professions aren't portrayed accurately though like the article claimed, firemen spend most of their time waiting for fires, not putting them out and when they do put out fires more often than not they don't actually have to save people. Cops are the same way, they're not usually doing drug busts, catching robbers, using their keen investigative wit, going on high speed car chases, getting in shootouts or anything, most police work is driving around and filing papers.

    1. Re:Well... by "Zow" · · Score: 2
      Also, while War Games obviously wasn't 100% accurate, it was definitely more realistic than the Net, Hackers and a lot of other movies featuring programmers.

      I'll second that. How many other movies are that that devote that much time to researching the target system to figure out the password? Any other movie would have just run a fancy graphical version of crack. I mean, sure, some of the technology (like Joshua, and the graphics capabilities of an IMSAI) was made more Hollywood, but I think the character depictions were dead on.

      Oh, and Lightman, good thing you didn't try to swim: skinny geeks like us sink like rocks.

      -"Zow"

  31. Archaeology has the same problem. by Dolemite_the_Wiz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In every intro level Archaelolgy course I've taken, there is always a comment in the text books on how Archaeology is nothing like the world of Indiana Jones.

    Then again, the intro level courses are to weed out people who aren't ready for the rigors of a given dicipline.

    Dolemite

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    1. Re:Archaeology has the same problem. by murphj · · Score: 3, Funny
      In every intro level Archaelolgy course I've taken

      Dude, you're only supposed to take the intro once!
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      SONY. Because caucasians are just too damn tall.
  32. scientists by meridoc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Real" jobs are seldom shown correctly in movies or TV. How many lawyer/cop/hospital shows are there?

    However, even though the jobs aren't shown realistically, is that necessarily wrong? Didn't watching "Voyage of the Mimi" make you want to get into oceanography? Watching "Mr. Wizard" make you want to blow things up? Seeing "101 Dalmations" make you want to get a dalmation? (okay, maybe not, but dalmation sales did increase after the movie was re-released.)

    My point is, maybe TV and movies don't show a realistic view of programming/chemistry/life in general. Every job, in some way, involves banging your head against the wall and filling out paperwork for some reason or another.

    I'm not advocating lying about what your job really entails, but isn't it a good thing if you can get kids interested in something?

    --
    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -- Albert Einstein
  33. Charlie's Angels by tmhsiao · · Score: 2, Funny

    Although that one scene with Lucy Liu as the dominatrix consultant showed teeming masses of geeky wage slaves, it did have the redeeming quality of her shouting, "Who builds the company's products?! YOU DO!"

    I remember watching that at about the exact same time our own tech team was denied free sodas by our pigfarking CTO.

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    "My God...It's full of ads!" -Fry, about the Internet, Futurama
  34. Priates of Silicon Valley by Kadagan+AU · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Other than Office Space (obvious), the most accurate movie I can recall (I can't recall much) was Pirates of Silicon Valley. I mean, it's about real people, in a time when they actually developed software.

    ~Jon~

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  35. Thanks Hollywood.. by Dragonshed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hollywood glammorizes ANY professional field, not just software developers, etc. I remember the first time I learned that Court cases took longer than a few weeks (I was 15y/o, mind you), because I followed the OJ murder trial. My intake of movie drama had preconditioned me to think all Lawyers were as thoughtful and explosive as Tom Cruise was in A Few Good Men, wailing at Nicholson, "I want the truth!" And then Nicholson responds, "You can't handle the truth!" It's practically never the case.

    I was (and still am) quite disappointed. My first assumptions about Law were based on movies, which, if you ask any Lawyer, are dramatized to the point of fiction.

    Much is the same with Technology. Anyone who's sat through Hackers will tell you how much of a (bad) joke it really is. The other great example is Swordfish, when Hugh Jackman hacks into a computer system in 60 seconds, at gunpoint, with a woman giving him head. Come on :p

    The point is this: Anyone who wishes to join any professional field should realize that work takes effort. If a movie gives you inspiration and/or a desire to look further into something you find interesting, fantastic. Seek out what you dream and live it. But be prepared to find something a little less idealized, something a bit more down to earth.

  36. Independance Day! by iocat · · Score: 5, Funny

    All aliens use AppleTalk...

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    Dude, I think I can see my house from here.

  37. Doctors, Lawyers, and Cops by Chazmati · · Score: 5, Funny

    My friends (mostly engineers) and I were discussing the success of shows like ER, Law and Order, Ally McBeal, Scrubs, etc. It seems like the popular shows are based on doctors, lawyers, or police work.

    "Why not a show about engineers?" someone asked.

    "Yeah, we could call it 'CR' - Conference Room! They could show us sitting around at boring meetings, eating doughnuts, writing emails and stuff..."

    That's when we realized why there are no shows about engineers.

    1. Re:Doctors, Lawyers, and Cops by biobogonics · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Why not a show about engineers?"

      Go out and rent Apollo 13. It has some of the best engineers as hero scenes on film - complete with computers & slide rules.

      Remember the scenes where they have to power up the frozen command module without going over budget on amperage? Yes, software development is sometimes like that - with severe constraints, painstaking work and testing - and rewarding results.

    2. Re:Doctors, Lawyers, and Cops by BollocksToThis · · Score: 3, Funny

      why do we have "Magnum, PI" but not "Anderson, PE"?

      "But Anderson, that bridge can't handle the load it's under!"
      (Anderson pulls out duct tape and a slide rule)
      "It will if *I* have anything to do with it"
      (cue MacGyver style music)

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    3. Re:Doctors, Lawyers, and Cops by dsoltesz · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Charles Bronson. Death Wish [1-5]. Architect.

      MacGyver. MacGyver. All around geek and secret agent.

      James Bond. Dante's Peak. Geologist.

      Mike Brady. Brady Bunch. Architect.

      Quinn Mallory. Sliders. Applied Physicist.

      Ellie Arroway. Contact. Radio Astronomer.

      Victor Frankenstein. Frankenstein. Biological Engineer.

      Henry Mitchell. Dennis the Menace. Engineer.

      Lionel Jefferson. The Jeffersons. Engineering Student.

      Julian Wilkes. Viper. Engineer.

      Chuck Noland. Castaway. Systems Engineer.

      Chris McCormack. Eight Legged Freaks. Mining Engineer.

      That's the best I can come up with :-)

  38. Documentary by redragon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/bridge/

    This is about engineers, but might be a good taste.

    I was also thinking that perhaps placing some web-cams in a computer lab around the deadline for large projects would be interesting. In my software engineering courses, the groups of students working together going back and forth is a great example of what software development ends up being like.

    Seriously, people in STS programs should be taking this as a hint, more studies please! :)

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    - Sighuh?
  39. That's why I love James Bond (Re:so what's new?) by Hanno · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My father is an ex Army helicopter pilot and flight instructor. We just love James Bond movies.

    Whenever there's a computer on screen, I tell him: "Well, actually that's impossible" and why. Whenever there's a helicopter on screen, he tells me: "well, actually, no helicopter is capable of that" and why. Or: "See that Russian soldier? Well, he's using a rifle of the Isreali army, wrong equipment again."

    Yeah, I know that it's just a movie, but we get the kicks out of it... :-)

    "Golden Eye" was an example, with its wonderful IBM product placement and unique chat software used by the geek and the bond girl. And virtually every modern Bond film includes an impossible or close-to-impossible helicopter stunt.

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  40. Well in MY experience... by Bvardi · · Score: 2

    From the social skills of most of the programmers' I have seen I'd have to go with "Silence of the Lambs". (After your 10th mountain dew of the morning, I suspect human flesh starts to seem like a good pre-lunch snack!) Of course reality could never actually be put into a hollywood blockbuster.... far too depressing or freaky (Or both). (Scarily enough I share many attributes with my programmer friends - so thats' why I know it would be EXTRA frightening to accurately portray them in film!)

  41. Equally irritating by RDPIII · · Score: 2

    is the portrayal of malicious software developers a.k.a. crackers a.k.a "hackers". Anyone remember the computer "nerd" in "The Score"? "Golden Eye"? Just plain embarassing.

    Due to whatever cultural factors, certain professions etc. receive a disproportionate amount of skewed media coverage. Be grateful if you are not a gay black jewish lawyer with Italian ancestors. On the other hand, if you're a civil engineer, polymer scientist, or music(ol)ologist, for example, you don't exist, as far as the mainstream media are concerned.

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  42. Life of a Computer Dude by mrycar · · Score: 2
    Meetings, Meetings, and more meetings.

    Gather some half-baked systems requirements, which mean usually translate into something like ...

    I want a system that does everything that all these systems do, but differently, cheaper, and more.

    Then spend 15 minutes of quality design time, 2 hours of presentation creation time, 4 hours of review time, 4 hours of quality correction time.

    Repeat process above for the entire systems life cycle, tollgates,etc, with every further iteration requiring less quality time, and more presentation and discussion time

    Deliver system that does some of the stuff one of the previous systems did, looks pretty according to the newest trend, and angers half of the old users

    Skills required:
    • Looking pretty.

    • Acting smart.
      Talking like an expert.
      Schmoozing.
      and maybe some systems knowledge(not really, you can get the vendors to provide if you really can huckster them like a used car salesman)
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    Gator/Claria is Spyware.
  43. What would you prefer? by Lethyos · · Score: 4, Funny

    Would you rather have the masses read /. to form their stereo types of CS people?

    "Computer science is clearly a field for people with enormous anuses, way too much time on their hands, hot grits down their pants, and a homosexual lust for cowboys."

    Of course, this isn't too far off the mark from CMU.

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    Why bother.
  44. Software Programmers hardly alone by damieng · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Like anything is accurately portrayed in the movies.

    Car's don't blow up with a single gunshot and rarely in a crash and you can't throw away the laws of physics when having a fight or shooting weaponry.

    They're movies, get over it. I doubt any doctors or lawyers find their roles portrayed particularly accurate either.

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    [)amien
  45. What I do by mugnyte · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Personally, I have never seen any movie work as I do. Been programming 15 years running, and of course I've changed my style but...

    There is a time period in coding where one, sooner or later, has all the knowledge ready to spill out from their fingertips, and the screen(s) are setup for maximum coding output. It's in this time that I've been simply focused to the bone on some problem, wheel invented or not. This is a point of headphone blaring, slouching tapping and screen flipping that looks completely boring to an observer. In team jobs, it can be even more fun.

    I don't think the movies would ever WANT to depict this strange ritual.

  46. Speaking as a Jedi.... by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 5, Funny

    Speaking as a Jedi, I have to say, the movie portrayals are quite unrealistic, but frankly, it's the only way to get new members.

    I mean, for every trade negotiation that turns into an assassination attempt and daring escape from a battle fortress, there are thousands that are just plain boring; you sit around, listen to proposal and counter-proposal repeated verbatium for hours, until somebody changes something a whit, repeat, for a few weeks, then you break up for consultations.

    For every five minutes you get to duel with a Sith Lord, you spend YEARS doing the sword-technique equivalent of sitting at a keyboard, typing 'jjj[space]fff[space]jjj[space]fff[space]'

    Anywho, I don't mean to get off on a rant here, but the life of your typical Jedi is NOTHING like those flashy bastards you see in the movies.

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    Vintage computer games and RPG books available. Email me if you're interested.
  47. realistic portrayal? by cribb · · Score: 2

    i'd say the three nerds from The X Files atleast looked and behaved the way a true geek does.

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  48. Do you really want them to know? by Bowie+J.+Poag · · Score: 3, Funny

    I don't.

    I enjoy getting paid more because people are a little scared and a little bit intimidated by us. Letting them peek behind the curtain isn't a healthy career move.

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    Bowie J. Poag

  49. What happens after office space by NfoCipher · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ended up in a small, small place as the only coder with the boss from a galaxy far far away. They should really warn people about to enter the field about people and jobs like this.

    I'd try to describe him to you, but it would take too long, I do keep a online journal of my adventures at NfoCipher.org

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    I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.
  50. ID4? by Astin · · Score: 2, Funny

    What about Jeff Goldblum's character in Independence Day? Let's see... generally ignored and looked down upon, until everything gets fubar, THEN they turn to him, and he basically says: Yah, well, I knew that all along, but nobody was paying attention to me or bothered to ask. All you management are all alike. Oh, and then he makes that kick-ass virus that can be uploaded seamlessly into an alien computer system and displays a skull and crossbones as it does the dirty work.

    Or perhaps Joe Morton's Miles Dyson from Terminator 2? Working with a team to reverse engineer a foreign piece of technology. Working long hours, forsaking his family for the project, always spending time on his computer. Also, completely ignoring the possible ramifications of his actions because the possible breakthroughs and creativeness are too tempting. Not to mention that he's observed the security measures at his place of employment and thought of ways to circumvent them.

    Or how about Demon Seed? Ok, maybe that wasn't quite so accurate for 1977...

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    - In hell, treason is the work of angels.
    1. Re:ID4? by ahrenritter · · Score: 3, Funny

      Actually, McAfee helped him out with instructions on how to bypass the old version the aliens were using. The next day, the homeworld got a call from their McAfee sales rep who said, "You see what can happen if you don't keep up to date with your service and upgrade subscription!?"

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      All I wanted was a rock to wind a piece of string around, and I ended up with the biggest ball of twine in Minnesota
  51. Inaccurate? I don't think so! by oakbox · · Score: 4, Funny
    He describes what he asserts to be inaccurate portrayals of developers in War Games, TRON, and The Net

    These movies PRECISELY describe what I do all day. Why, right this minute, I'm typing on one of my 8 totally custom made keyboards suspended in the air around me by a complex system of racks and harnesses, while glancing from side to side at the 21 monitors hanging around my control chair (with power swivel), and protecting my neon-lit plexiglass-cased server from being attacked by rogue agents and crackers going after the kernel! I'm regularly stopped by agents in expensive suits and 400 dollar Ray-Bans on the street and threatened about my attempts to bring down the national infrastructure with my super password cracking program that, if released, would allow instant access to every system on the planet. And don't even get me started with my super intense VR room in the back that let's me have hyper-realistic "intimate encounters" with my computer-generated love slave(s).

    I think we need to lift the veil of secrecy surrounding our profession and let the world know that we absolutely have the best fucking jobs on the planet.

    -Oakbox

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    Not just answers, the correct questions.
  52. Hackers With Angeline Jolie Was Pretty Accurate by DoctorMabuse · · Score: 2, Funny

    All of the female programmers I work with look like Angeline Jolie. We all run around the city for a few hours and then order pizza while the uber-programmer sits and types at a keyboard while equations float in the air around his head.

    I also score with the Angeline-clones every day. We just knock the keyboard and mouse of the desk and do naughty things after work.

    Sigh - back to work. I have to use a pay phone to save the world.

  53. Ok, I'll go for one less obvious then by kfg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How about Terrance Mann in Field of Dreams?

    Everyone forgets about that one. Although the focus was primarily on the charecter as a writer, he was *was* a full time writer of educational computer games.

    I thought it was done rather well.

    KFG

  54. The real question is... by elluzion · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Has there ever been any movie that accurately portrayed any profession?

  55. SNL by killmenow · · Score: 2, Funny

    The most realistic portrayal of "techie" types I've ever seen is "Nick Burn's -- Your Company's Computer Guy!"

    Or maybe the fat guy in Jurrasic Park...

  56. Make it like Star Trek by GuyMannDude · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Hollywood portrayal could be worse, you know. Just imagine if they portrayed debugging like a ST:TNG episode, complete with flashing red alert lights and lots of noises:

    Picard: What's our status?

    Data: The process is attempting to completely allocate all available memory and CPU cycles.

    Worf: Available memory is down to 50%. 40%...

    Picard: Suggestions?

    Riker: Perform a break. Try to find out what happened.

    Picard: Make it so.

    Data: Ctrl-C was not successful. Process is still consuming resources.

    Worf: 30%, 20%...

    Wesley: Captain, this may be due to an incorrect check in the while loop...

    Picard: Shut up, Wesley!

    Geordi: Captain, we're losing segmentation containment. We've got to dump the core!

    Worf: ...10%...

    Picard: All hands, this is the Captain! All hands, log out! Repeat, all hands log out!

    Kaboom! Blue screen of death.

    GMD

  57. Not to mention the speed of sound by pommiekiwifruit · · Score: 2, Funny

    being the same as the speed of light...

  58. SHHHHHH! by gnovos · · Score: 4, Funny

    PLEASE don't tell the the truth... the more people think that I'm capable of breaking into top secret databases, alter credit cars statements, revoke driver's licenses, reroute spy satelites to take ultra high-res pictures or Natalie Portman sunbathing, etc. all from a public phone booth with a paperclip, the more likely I'll be able to look cool and suave to the ladies... Don't blow my cover man!

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    "Your superior intellect is no match for our puny weapons!"
  59. Accurate Portrayal by JWSmythe · · Score: 4, Funny

    Office space was a good representation of the office working environment. Stupid bosses who don't do anything. Idiotic tasks specifically designed to waste time. Policies enforced just to annoy you (You forgot the cover sheet on the TPS report). "Friendly" staff evaluations to randomly lay off good staff..

    Been there, lived through it..

    A portrayal of my life would be pretty .. well .. boring. I do a lot of nothing, and don't get what I want to do accomplished. Oddly enough, what I want to do, and the company projects, are one in the same.. Read on...

    Follow me through Sunday evening and Monday..

    ---- Sunday Evening.
    Sunday, 6pm.. Coding new authentication module for Apache..

    20 minutes reading (from my personal O'Reilly library, dejanews, and the very few sites that may have clues to what I'm doing).
    30 minutes writing.
    5 minutes reading work
    2 seconds deciding I didn't like parts of it, and deleting 90%
    drink a beer.

    [lather;rinse;repeat] for the next 8 hours. On the weekend. Like, when I'm not even supppose to be working.

    Pager beeps at 2am. One server with 6 months of uptime is unreachable.
    Log into server. It's running.
    Check httpd processes, they're running.
    Try browsing to server, it's unreachable.
    30 seconds scratching head.

    Kill all httpd processes. Restart web server, check error logs. Starts normally.
    Try browsing to server. It's unrecachable.

    Reboot server (for spite).
    2 minutes drinking beer.

    Server's back up, still can't browse to it.
    netstat -a -n

    Oh look, one IP has 10,000 connections from a university in Russia (212.96.201.28, for those really interested)
    verify TCP_SYNCOOKIES enabled. yup.
    Check logs. No entries for that IP.
    Drop traffic that /24's traffic at the router.
    Browse to site. It works.

    Drink more beer. Go to bed at 3am
    ---------

    Monday morning.

    Wake up late.

    9am Drag my happy ass into office.

    9:20 discussion of what happened, and what we can do to prevent it happening again. I suggest going into used car sales.

    10:00 arrive at my desk.
    10:01 users start asking for their forgotten Email or FTP passwords.

    10:20 start back on authentication module.
    10:21 phone call forwarded from support.
    10:45 hang up on support call. I hate users.

    10:50 start back on authentication module.
    10:51 "Urgent" help needed for other people's broken CGI's.
    11:45 Finish fixing really shitty CGI's.

    11:46 decision: module or smoke.. Choose smoke. Can't find cyanide cigarette, choose cloves instead.

    12:00 back to desk with sandwich in hand.
    12:00.01 Can you help this guy on line 3?
    12:15 get rid of guy on phone. Unwrap sandwidth.
    12:16 "My computer has a blue screen, can you help me". Decision: shoot user, or hit reset for them.
    12:17->12:30 listen to user cry because they had some important program open, and I lost it. I'm so evil.
    12:31 pick up sandwidth
    12:31.0001 phone rings. Boss wants to talk about last night. I remind him I sent an Email on it. He asks for his Email password.

    12:45 I reach for the sandwich. "important" customer walks in, asking for changes to his site. I point to my sandwich. He says it'll only take a minute.

    1:30 {sigh} I look longingly at my lunch. Quickly I scribble on a post it "Comitted Suicide, memorial next week", and put it on my door. Phone stays outside the door too.

    1:31 the first bite of my sandwidth.. MMmmmmm.. Almost as good as street meet, with less rodent parts.

    1:35 all gone? I'm still hungry.

    1:36 begin work on authentication module.
    1:37 boss walks in (didn't he read the note?), wants to know why I haven't finished the authentication module.. And then throws another task at me that's more urgent.
    3:30 more urgent task done. Back to authentication module.
    3:35 parts arrive for servers that we've been waiting for, for 2 weeks. Delegate work. Spend the next half hour explaining how to do 5 minutes work.
    4:15 smoke. smoke. smoke. it's oddly quiet. No phones, no users. I wonder if I can bring my laptop down here.

    4:30 authentication module. I still haven't written one line yet, but I'm trying..
    4:31 Boss comes in screaming, I think one of the networks is slow. Spend the next hour justifying the fact that nothing is slow, enforced with transfer rates and ping times.

    5:30 smoke.
    5:45 contemplate suicide. Go back to office anyways. Start working on authentication module.
    5:50 girlfriend calls. "Why don't you love me, you never spend time with me."
    6:20 finish with girlfriend. Take elevator to top floor to find out roof access is locked (smart people).
    6:30 go home.

    So, today I accomplished exactly *NOTHING*.

    That's my typical fuckin' work day.

    I've gone as far as to put the phones outside my office door (including cell), put a big note explaining that I'm on an important project and to leave me alone. I then lock and barracade the door. That'll get the boss banging on the door within 5 minutes. {sigh} After asking if I'm ok, and why I did it, he then asks if the project is done..

    I tried working from home one day, because there was a project that needed to be completed (the boss wanted it immediately).. The boss insisted that I keep my phone on, in case there were emergencies.. I took 68 calls from the office that day.

    I can't win.

    I may as well be doing TPS reports with fish flavored cover sheets.

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    Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
  60. An important thing to know is . . . by acceleriter · · Score: 2, Funny

    . . . that a real programmer would never be caught dead saying "software programmer."

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  61. Re:Easy as Pi by Odds · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Actually, Pi does have a decent representation of the life of some programmers. Sure, the computer was ridiculous and over the top - it was mostly there for atmosphere and visual effect.


    But some of the psychology was right. I liked the scenes where he left the office and walked in crowds, and everywhere he looked, equations popped into his head; he couldn't stop thinking about his work. For me, that's what happens for 30 mins after finishing work - still contemplating the problem, still "in the zone", with ideas about the day's work coalescing in my head as I bike home. I often can't even hold a normal conversation for the next half hour.


    Can I get paid for that time? Please?


    - David

  62. Disclosure by GregoryS · · Score: 2, Informative

    My vote goes to "Disclosure" with Michael Douglas and Dennis Miller. Though not strictly software developers, they were engineers (working on CD-ROM drives, IIRC), and they actually seemed to work like engineers. (It was based on a Crieghton novel.) (Besides, Douglas' character lived on Bainbridge Island and rode the ferry to work every day. Ah yes, mad dash at 07:09:59 to make the 7:10 sailing, sip the latte on the boat on the way over, short hike to the office, cut schema all day, out at a reasonable hour to catch the boat back, Fosters on the ferry on the way home. Very realistic. How I miss that.)

  63. You're forgetting all the anime by phel666 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sure they exaggerate, but so do all the dramas for doctors/lawyers, etc. Hand Maid May, SE Lain, Eva and Cowboy Bebop all do a pretty good job(IMHO) at summing up some aspects of computing. Lain mainly for the coolant system, Hand Maid May mainly in the character and motivations, Eva in hopes(in a sense), and Cowboy bebop in the... um... unassuming brilliance?

    OK I'm not too sure about the last one, except that we're all annoying like Ed.

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