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Clear Case Roundup

The Cheat writes "Interested in making your computer the envy of all the other computers on the block? What visitors to oooh and ahhh when they enter your room? The latest trend in computer case solutions can do just that. AnandTech took a look at three clear cases in a recent roundup, each certain to make you more popular, right? Maybe not, but at least they look cool."

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  1. These are certain to.. by skinnydskitzo · · Score: 4, Funny

    scare any and all females from ever entering my bedroom again.

    1. Re:These are certain to.. by smilingirl · · Score: 1

      Haha, I think there are some females that would be impressed with a cool-lookin' computer... =)

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    2. Re:These are certain to.. by MasterSLATE · · Score: 1

      Not true... I have a lady sleeping in my bed right now. Bow chicka bow wow.

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    3. Re:These are certain to.. by jred · · Score: 1

      Sleeping? Well, there's some things you need to work on buddy :) Just remember to turn your webcam off. I forgot once, and was bombarded by requests for repeat performances for weeks...

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  2. EM problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There's a reason cases are made of metal. EM SHIELDING!

    1. Re:EM problems by SomeGuyFromCA · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's not an issue unless you have a lot of computers. (#include beowulf_cluster_comment.h) All the same, I won't be getting one until the day they invent transparent aluminum.

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    2. Re:EM problems by BetterThanCaesar · · Score: 1

      It's OK, I have tin foil socks.

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    3. Re:EM problems by kidlinux · · Score: 1

      All consumer electronic equipment has to pass FCC regulations Part 15 Class B (I couldn't find this on fcc.gov, go figure.) As the page at the link says, it's not a guarantee that interference won't occur. However, I would think that having to meet said regulations makes it less likely that the non-metallic cases will make a significant difference. In fact, a lot of the modern cases are made more of plastic than they are metal. Not necessarily transparent plastic, but plastic all the same. I havn't heard of any problems.

      The CRTC has similar regulations which I couldn't find, but I'm sure they're very similar to the FCC's. If the device passes the FCC, chances are it passes the CRTC.

      Anyway, I often used to run computers with an open case, or no case at all, and never had a problem with EMI. I'm sure there are others here who could confirm this.

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    4. Re:EM problems by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      i've never had either.

      but i've heard of stories like "my tv reception turned to **** when my neighbour used his computer without case panels", though mostly i would say that if that occurs theres something wrong with the tv cabling too(possibly with antenna too, piece of wire doesn't exactly make a fine receptor )..

      crap, i used to run for like 1,5years without any case.. and watched tv on that too(wintv card), opening / closing another computer wouldnt make any difference, heck i guess my older 'backup' monitors make more emi noise. the psu is encased already(though, running it open too didnt really seem to matter), i also ran without case for a while back when i lived at my parents and that didn't affect the already poor tv reception at all.

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  3. Actually... by unterderbrucke · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Geek chic is coming into popularity. The other kids at my high school are very impressed with the various case detailing methods, and especially enjoy such companies as Alienware, who has now replaced Dell as the system "to have".

    1. Re:Actually... by Eu4ria · · Score: 3, Funny

      When was Dell ever the system to have ?

    2. Re:Actually... by ancukiewiczd · · Score: 1

      Dell does make very nice computers. If you doubt that for a second, go look at what Compaq, HP and eMachines offer.

  4. I'm not going to hop on the marketing bandwagon by saskboy · · Score: 1

    When they make a clear CPU and invisible hard drive, then I'll hop on the trend bandwagon.
    A light and durable case is more important to me than one that you can see into. If I want to see my ribbon cables and motherboard, I can leave the side off.

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    1. Re:I'm not going to hop on the marketing bandwagon by Ponty · · Score: 1

      By my watch, we're nearly twenty years overdue for transparent aluminum.

    2. Re:I'm not going to hop on the marketing bandwagon by Lore2002 · · Score: 1

      Was that "transparent aluminum" comment in reference to Star Trek IV? LOL

    3. Re:I'm not going to hop on the marketing bandwagon by baywulf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's because we have already saved the whales. No reason for Scotty to give away the secret.

    4. Re:I'm not going to hop on the marketing bandwagon by PunchMonkey · · Score: 1

      When they make a clear CPU and invisible hard drive

      You're in luck!!! I happen to have just received a full shipment of invisible hard drives and clear CPUs. Not only are they completely invisible, but also completely soundless and generate little or no heat!

      To order, send check or money order to:

      Ripp Ough Enterprises
      197 Evercrest Ave.
      Nowheresville, NJ
      40104

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    5. Re:I'm not going to hop on the marketing bandwagon by ancukiewiczd · · Score: 1

      It's not about marketing... it's about people who want to have good-looking computers. Notice all the people who do case mods themselves, adding windows and such. A large number of them are very creative. Besides, how come those with Macs are regarded as having "class/taste/etc" while those with modded cases as being sheep?

  5. The other ClearCase by leerpm · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Did any else misread that headline and think it was going to be a product review of Rational's ClearCase software products?

    1. Re:The other ClearCase by bartman · · Score: 1

      Definately did.

      I was especting to see a "ClearCase is a registered trademark...." disclaimer. :)

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    2. Re:The other ClearCase by bartman · · Score: 1

      ... and I apparently don't know how to spell `expecting'.

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    3. Re:The other ClearCase by einhverfr · · Score: 1

      Did any else misread that headline and think it was going to be a product review of Rational's ClearCase software products?

      No, but this is a clear case of misunderstanding here on /.

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    4. Re:The other ClearCase by zoid.com · · Score: 1

      I sure did but I really couldn't understand the story in that context. Then I read the story again without thinking of Clearcase and was still confused....

  6. No EMI by Tweakmeister · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is no way I'd buy one of these cases...or one with a window.

    There's a reason for all the EMI shielding in a case! And the reason? Search google :)

    I have to wonder what the FCC says about these cases...although for Home use I don't believe there is much in terms of requirements.

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    1. Re:No EMI by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      Another thing, apparently aluminum doesn't qualify as adequate shielding either. It must be steel or some other magnetic material.

    2. Re:No EMI by spike+hay · · Score: 1

      Another thing, apparently aluminum doesn't qualify as adequate shielding either. It must be steel or some other magnetic material.

      Make that a conductive material.

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    3. Re:No EMI by HeavensTrash · · Score: 1

      OH NO! EMI! NOW I CAN'T PLAY WITH MY HAM RADIO!!

      Get OVER EMI already you freaks - You all act like it causes men to go sterile or something. Jesus christ, how many of us here haven't run a computer with the side panel, or the whole case off?

    4. Re:No EMI by Tweakmeister · · Score: 1

      It's not so much the occasional exposure (both of things inside going out and outside going in)...it's the prolonged exposure as well.

      If you're an overclocker especially, I would never mix a window with trying to get maximum performance. Interference CAN cause adverse effects in that realm.

      Try this...put a harddrive next to a radio and listen for little disturbances when the heads seek.

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    5. Re:No EMI by r00zky · · Score: 1

      There's a reason for all the EMI shielding in a case!

      Tell about that reason to the computer i have running over my desk with no case at all...
      here's some output from top: up 37 days, 22:17

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    6. Re:No EMI by NortWind · · Score: 1

      Electro-magnetic interference has two parts, an electric field and a magnetic field. Aluminum blocks the electric part just fine, but has very little effect on the magnetic field. Iron conducts magnetic fields much, much better than air or aluminum, and so the magnetic fields "prefer" to say in the iron and out of the air. Of course iron conducts electicity as well, so it shields both. If you have a choice, choose iron.

    7. Re:No EMI by c_oflynn · · Score: 1

      Apparently you haven't even seen the clear power supply mods some people do... Seriously the switching noise has to cause some problems I'd think... ah well its thier system, not mine ;-)

    8. Re:No EMI by b-baggins · · Score: 1

      Um, my physics bells are sounding off on this one. Magnetism and electricity are two sides of the same coin. An EMI shield is nothing more than an electrical conductor that converts the incoming magnetic field to electricity and sends it to ground (kind of like how your car antenna works, only it takes a portion of the magentic field, converts it to an electrical current and sends it to your amplifier).

      The idea that only iron can do this simply isn't true. Otherwise aluminum aerials or the copper antenna wires coming off your FM home stereo wouldn't work.

      You don't need a solid sheet either. A grid of any conductor will work. Faraday cages are usually composed of a fine grid of thin copper wiring embedded in a wall or other substrate and connected to ground. No EM get in or out.

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    9. Re:No EMI by b-baggins · · Score: 1

      Then you better live your life locked in a Faraday cage because your world is flooded with EM from all those FM and AM radio stations, cell phone towers, Satellite downlinks and television broadcast signals.

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    10. Re:No EMI by Deadstick · · Score: 1
      Last I heard, the FCC EMI requirements for home computers were tighter than for business machines, so your home machine wouldn't hit the cheap crappy TV on your neighbor's side of the sheetrock.

      rj

    11. Re:No EMI by NortWind · · Score: 1
      Um, my physics bells are sounding off on this one.

      Time to get those physics bells retuned. A changing magnetic field does generate an electric field, as a changing electric field generates a magnetic field. In fact, that how light goes through a vacuum. At least according to Maxwell.

      Especially low frequncy magnetic fields (say 60Hz) have no trouble going through 1/8" aluminum sheets. An iron sheet will really attenuate those kinds of fields. You can test this if you like (as I have) with a 1' sq of iron and aluminum sheet metal. The iron stopped my monitor from doing the hula, the aluminum did not.

      You may not have this problem from a new computer, though. Most modern power supplies use switching transformers that operate at 100KHz even up to 1MHz. This makes a lot less of a magnetic field to start with, and it is easier to shield at the higher frequency, even with just aluminum.

    12. Re:No EMI by gottabeme · · Score: 1

      No, look at the door of your microwave.

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    13. Re:No EMI by Dr.+Remulac · · Score: 1

      Hmmm, I wasn't aware that there was proof that EMI had been factually proven to be causation for any disease. However, my Pravda subscription ran out last month; perhaps I missed something. As for the cases, they look cool. These companies and others will develop better models that correct the majority of the present shortcomings. These aren't designed for the LAN party animal, but that doesn't mean they don't have a place on someone's desktop. I'd buy one if I really enjoyed cleaning my computer case every day or if I lived in a 0.1um/ISO 1 clean room. PS: Anyone who is that worried about EMI should make themselves a tinfoil jumpsuit.

    14. Re:No EMI by Torgo's+Pizza · · Score: 1

      That's why I wear my aluminum foil hat! Ha ha ha ha! Nothing can get in! Not even those voices that I hear sometimes.

    15. Re:No EMI by g4dget · · Score: 1

      That's wrong. Aluminum makes a reasonably good shield for RF.

    16. Re:No EMI by g4dget · · Score: 1
      how many of us here haven't run a computer with the side panel, or the whole case off?

      The short answer is: too many. Every time you do that, you may be spoiling someone's radio or TV reception.

      Come on, be nice to your neighbors: keep the case closed as much as practical, don't play your stereo at top volume, and don't buy plastic cases for GHz machinery.

  7. What's the point? by sketerpot · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I can see that these would be cool---for someone who's never seen an iMac. I remember when I first saw an iMac. It was cool. I could see through the case. But are there any advantages to these cases other than looking cool? I'd prefer to have a compact case that I could fit a lot of computer in. There was a project a while ago to make small computers that would fit in a small brick and run quietly. Quiet, small, low heat computers are what I'd like to see. Unfortunately this might now look as cool if you look in a transparent case.

    Are there any neat things you would like to see in a case?

    1. Re:What's the point? by npatrick · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't see any problems with cases as they are. It's just a box to hold some stuff. The only thing I want in a case is plenty of openings for new pieces, whatever they might be. Multiple optical drives, or video cards, or whatever.

    2. Re:What's the point? by homemademissiles · · Score: 1

      Transparent cases have been with us a while, what would be nice is to have all the other peripherals see-through. Certain caveats about shielding etc would obviously apply, but what about clear mice, keyboards, monitors and even printers?
      Other than that, does anyone know how easy it is to keep these things clean?

    3. Re:What's the point? by rmarll · · Score: 2, Funny


      I can see that these would be cool---for someone who's never seen an iMac

      Yep, and it will always be that way until someone(company) decides to pay someone to design a cool case instead of painting the box a different color and calling it 'edgy'.

      What I want in a case?

      Sound deadening material.
      Britney Spears.
      Handles.
      Wheels.

      The wheels are optional.

    4. Re:What's the point? by Uart · · Score: 2, Interesting

      how about a clear facade for the CD-RW / DVD /floppy? drives? It would probably look much nicer than the beige rectangle that a clear-case owner would have to deal with right now.

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    5. Re:What's the point? by silvaran · · Score: 2, Funny

      Are there any neat things you would like to see in a case?

      I would love to see a giant wad of cash in my case. Then I'd use it to buy a laptop.

    6. Re:What's the point? by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      Just be careful not to look directly into the facade while the CD or DVD drive is in use... with your remaining eye.

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    7. Re:What's the point? by spike+hay · · Score: 1

      Certain caveats about shielding etc would obviously apply, but what about clear mice, keyboards, monitors and even printers?

      Although I'd like a clear case, I don't think that they'd be too good for overclockers. Acrylic is not very thermally conductive. Worse than steel, much worse than aluminum.

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    8. Re:What's the point? by Uart · · Score: 1

      hmmm, good point...

      and all I wanted was a case with friggin lasers...

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    9. Re:What's the point? by farmkid · · Score: 1

      > Are there any neat things you would like to see in a case?

      I'm sure that there are many that I haven't thought of, and at which I'll Ooh! and Ah! when someone posts a good hand-build example of their unique vision.

      But, to the extent that this question means "what would you like to buy at , the answer is 'nothing'. If it's already reached commercialization, it's already past being cool.

    10. Re:What's the point? by b-baggins · · Score: 1

      Um, the laser is focused on the disc, not your eye or the front of the case and it's a tremendously low-power laser to boot, just a few milliwatts. The most you might get would be a cool monochromatic glow from light scattered by the disc surface. That would look kind of cool, actually.

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    11. Re:What's the point? by spike+hay · · Score: 1

      What about aluminum cases? They reduce the temp by quite a bit.

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  8. One URL... by Ponty · · Score: 1

    This.

    1. Re:One URL... by Elbereth · · Score: 1

      Well, it's black. That counts for something. I've actually never seen a NeXT cube up close.

      I know it's probably considered incredibly lame by Slashdot standards, butI like black Antec cases. They are huge, well-designed, include lots of room for expansion, and are rated for dual Xeons (or dual Athlon MPs, if you swing that way). That's some wicked stuff. Well, to someone who has no life, at least.

    2. Re:One URL... by Cplus · · Score: 1

      Actually it just looks black because that's a black and white photo. The NeXT cube was actually pink which made it quite popular amongst a certain segment of the population but ultimately doomed it for failure in the larger market of desktop computing for the home user.

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  9. It's a safe bet by RLiegh · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...that if you think these look cool; you needn't fear being 'popular'. ;)

    (damn, did I forget my humor tags?)

  10. Come on, you're a /. reader... by sean.peters · · Score: 5, Funny

    What do you mean, "again"?

    Sean

    1. Re:Come on, you're a /. reader... by Uart · · Score: 4, Funny

      well his mom visited him that one time, she had to check to see that he made his bed...

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  11. Lack of EMR Shielding? by PhotonSphere · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Does anyone know if there are any adverse effects of having no metal shielding on your box? I haven't seen anything other than a few warnings associated with clear cases. Here's an example of a warning from the pcmods.com site:


    WARNING: This product is meant for education purposes only. It is unknown how much protection it provides EMR (electromagnetic radiation), if it provides any protection at all.


    This warning trails all of their clear case descriptions... Anyone have any definitive info on this?

    1. Re:Lack of EMR Shielding? by loucura! · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well that's kinda the point...

      Think about it... do you want the type of people who want clear cases breeding? Sure, you could argue that they aren't likely to breed anyway, but this is just an extra precaution.

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    2. Re:Lack of EMR Shielding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't know much about the dangers of clear cases. During the time I've had mine, I grew a third arm. I look a little funny now, but at least I can peruse porn and still type URLs with both hands.

    3. Re:Lack of EMR Shielding? by Bio · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Given that most geeks have their PC cases open all the time anyway:

      A clear case cannot give worse shielding than no case at all ...

    4. Re:Lack of EMR Shielding? by c0dedude · · Score: 1

      Some general info about EMR shielding...

      If an area is completely covered by a conductor (such as a metal case), the electric field in the conductor will cancel to 0 (unless, of course, you have an electric field coming in through the conductor in an insulated wire (such as a power cord) leaving only the electric field created inside the metal. By this phenomanon, a case will be EMR shielded. However, plexiglass is an insulator, and would not provide this shielding. There aren't any definitive studies on this, but I wouldn't host a server on it or anything requiring perfect stability.

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    5. Re:Lack of EMR Shielding? by c0dedude · · Score: 1

      D'Oh! *smacks self*

      It might suck for the human, too. :-)

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    6. Re:Lack of EMR Shielding? by Sentry21 · · Score: 1

      The only definitive info I have is that my cellphone gets literally no reception when it's on the right side of my keyboard (15cm from where my roommate's open PC is) but I get full signal if it's on the left side. The amount of EM interferance from the average PC is staggering when you think about it, and it can easily disrupt all kinds of electronics.

      --Dan

    7. Re:Lack of EMR Shielding? by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      They do make EMI and EMR clear sheilding. Take a look on google, it's expensive, but they do make it.

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    8. Re:Lack of EMR Shielding? by cap'n+foolsy · · Score: 1

      dont worry, years of sitting in front of the monitor have neutered almost all of our kind...

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    9. Re:Lack of EMR Shielding? by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 1

      One thing about unlicensed part 15 devices which include incidental radiators - which also includes powerlines - is that if they do cause any interference to licensed operations - like commericial or even amateur stations then its you job to either A) resolve the interference or B) cease operations.

    10. Re:Lack of EMR Shielding? by g4dget · · Score: 1
      They probably wouldn't be permitted to sell it at all if they sold it as a computer case--the FCC regulates electronic equipment, in particular equipment that is sold commercially.

      It probably won't make you go blind or sterile, but it will probably annoy the hell out of some neighbor trying to listen to the radio somehwere.

  12. Guaranted by rmarll · · Score: 1

    each certain to make you more popular, right?

    And just a touch more cancerous!!

    Seriously, these things are neat, and when they make a model that doesnt' need cleaning after a days use I'll gladly irradiate myself.

  13. ...but what I really want... by The+Fanta+Menace · · Score: 1

    ...is a completely clear notebook. :)

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  14. interesting ideas, yes by thadeusPawlickiROX · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sure, these look really cool. And to be honest, I wouldn't mind having a nice clear case and all. But, is it entirely necessary? My case currently resides on the floor between my desk and my roommates desk in my dorm room. From what I've seen, most cases sit on the floor next to a desk, no? A nice looking case is good and all, but is it practical? I'd rather spend the extra money and buy extra hard drives, etc., something that serves a better function then "looking cool". I mean, it's like buying an old, beat-up car with no engine, and giving it a spoiler, racing stripes, etc. But hey, if someone gave me a check for a few hundred dollars, and I had nothing to spend it on, a clear case would be nice.

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  15. They already do by absurdhero · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Computer cases haven't changed a whole lot in the last 5 years ever since they discovered the stylish case market. Trends have changed a little, windowed cases and flat black designs are popular. I would like to see more truly innovative designs like the Shuttle PCs and other stylish cases with a purpose.

    1. Re:They already do by rsborg · · Score: 1
      I would like to see more truly innovative designs like the Shuttle PCs and other stylish cases with a purpose.

      The problem with that is that

      1. It would probably not be too innovative if the case were still ATX/etc. compliant
      2. If it did create a new standard (ie, miniATX, flexATX, etc), then the mobo manufacturers have to be on board (or you have to be a mobo manufacturer yourself). This in itself is not an easy proposition
      3. All this contributes to increased costs, and maintenance issues for the user
        ...
      4. Which brings me to my final point... this is why Apple still rakes in the cash. I just wish some PC vendor would do the same for WinTel market, but then again... Apple styled much, much more than the case/mobo. Which is why they are stylistically successful and we're still using boxy cases (but with clear sides now!).
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  16. popular at work by 1nv4d3r · · Score: 3, Funny

    Almost all of our development machines use a Clear Case--it's definitely popular where I work. I told management that the difference was mostly just eye candy, and that Bitkeeper would do just fine (and be more scalable, at that). But, instead, they oooh'ed and aaah'ed over it, just like the slashdot posting said they would.

    1. Re:popular at work by doormat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yea, any Rational person who knows what they're doing uses a Clear Case...

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  17. Re:RF Transparent, too by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

    Well if you have an office of about 100 opened pc's then yes you can expect same major problems with interferance. A single pc probably will not make a different though. I heard its the same argument for cell phones. A single phone is not bad but a scenario inside a subway with 30 people on phones is quite hazardous to your health.

  18. Ah the life of a case modder.. by euxneks · · Score: 2, Funny

    The money, the alcohol, the women, the secret enemy fortresses, oh wait, I'm thinking of James Bond...

    ;)
    Any case modder I know doesn't really have a life, other than Lan Parties.

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  19. other clear things by enos · · Score: 3, Funny

    clear car hood
    You know what this means? Now you have to clean whatever dirt a solid case/hood would have hidden... I guess this doesn't matter too much to people who buy new hardware every four months though...

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  20. Staring at the inside of a computer by ASDFer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yes, I stare at the inside of the computer from time to time.
    It'd be so cool if there were transparant laptop case. Now, that's cool Better yet, transparant CD/DVD drive casing so that you can spot the laser. Imagine how cool it is to have that sort of laptop in the dark!!!!!!
    Black Light, some lava lamp should be a must have!!!!!!

    mod

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    1. Re:Staring at the inside of a computer by saskboy · · Score: 1

      Looking at a class-'whatever' laser is bound to do wonders for your already CRT damaged eyesight. Look at lasers at your own risk, and stupidity.

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  21. Re:I'm new to Linux by anarxia · · Score: 1

    What does it have to do with the topic? I can understand that you are happy you are through with Windows but there are plenty of chances in /. to brag about Linux so take it to a more appropriate subject. The fact that you have a family proves that there is another wonderful free something (hint: not linux)

  22. Any cool looking Notebooks out there? by blair1q · · Score: 1, Funny

    I mean, the Mac portables are tres passe'.

    I want something with lexan and neon and tubes and bubbles and shit.

    1. Re:Any cool looking Notebooks out there? by blair1q · · Score: 1

      And some extra tokens, while you're at it.

  23. why put your money there by jhagler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To me this is a classic case of flash over substance. Why pay the extra for a window/lights/rounded cables when that money can be put into a faster CPU, a better video card, or a bigger hard drive? It reminds me of the people who buy a cheap ass Honda then trick it out with everything they can bolt on only to have their doors blown off by a stock Camaro SS which costs less.

    Whoop-tee-dee you have LCD's on your fan, I can push twice the fps you can and will procede to hand you your ass in tournament play. Just a thought.

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    1. Re:why put your money there by MoneyT · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because not everybody cares whether or not they can get more than 80 fps out of quake.

      Because not everybody cares for larger HDD space (ok so those people are rare, but the point remains)

      Because for some people 2 ghz is indeed fast enough (a lesson that that many tech companies have to learn still)

      Because they can.

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    2. Re:why put your money there by Elbereth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Uh... 2 GHz is fast enough?

      For most people, 600 MHz is fast enough.

    3. Re:why put your money there by TheKey · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Most of the people with extremely modded cases also have the best PCs on the block (they're rich).

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    4. Re:why put your money there by liquidsin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'd like to propose something to every single person who posts a comment like this whenever case modding comes up. Think of the last time you spent money on something you wanted, even though you didn't need it. Bought those Nike shoes instead of the generic brand? Paid a hundred bucks more for a fridge with a stainless steel finish? Then, instead of questioning why other people do things they want with their own money for their own amusement, why don't you just shut the fuck up...

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    5. Re:why put your money there by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      Well, there are reasonable limits, I'd take it in moderation. I don't think it costs prohibitively more to get nice performing guts _and_ a nice shell. If an ordinary case costs $50 and a nice looking case costs $100, I'd put in an extra $50 to the total cost to have something that's nicer to look at, particularly if I have to see the computer every day for several years.

      I certainly wouldn't buy a fully transparent case as it has little appreciable RFI / EMI protection properties. It wouldn't be legal for a company to sell a computer with that sort of case due to FCC restrictions, that's why we generally only see this sort of thing in a DIY form.

    6. Re:why put your money there by pclminion · · Score: 1
      Exactly. I said the same thing to my over-eager friend, who insisted we try to overclock my Athlons to insane speeds by submerging the motherboard in a tub of antifreeze. We tested this first on an old 486 motherboard. Just for future reference, submerging a computer in antifreeze doesn't work. (However, we did learn that you can rinse the motherboard very carefully with water, let it dry, and it will work again -- picture two idiots spraying down a motherboard in the kitchen sink, then blowdrying for about 20 minutes -- this mobo has sentimental value.) Apparently antifreeze has very poor characteristics at high frequencies. Just because it's nonconductive doesn't mean it'll work.

      Anyway that was a little OT, but my point is, why spend $massive dollars overclocking/tricking out the case when you could just buy better equipment for half the difference?

    7. Re:why put your money there by gosand · · Score: 1
      I'd like to propose something to every single person who posts a comment like this whenever case modding comes up. Think of the last time you spent money on something you wanted, even though you didn't need it. Bought those Nike shoes instead of the generic brand? Paid a hundred bucks more for a fridge with a stainless steel finish? Then, instead of questioning why other people do things they want with their own money for their own amusement, why don't you just shut the fuck up...

      Well, to use your examples, I wouldn't post pictures of my stainless steel refrigerator to a newsgroup, or discuss my shoes online with a bunch of other shoe owners. See, case modding used to be creative and unique. People did it for fun, and actually put some time, effort, and thought into it. Now it is a joke because all you have to do is buy everything off the shelf. That is why putting a PC in an old stereo (which I did ) was just for fun. Now if anyone could go out and just buy a PC that looked like a stereo, it would be lame. Now you might think what I did was stupid, but I did it for fun. How is going out and simply purchasing a bunch of parts that are clear any different than purchasing parts that aren't?

      Case modding ceases to be modding when there is no modding going on. And as much as you have the right to discuss "case modding", I have the right to laugh at you.

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    8. Re:why put your money there by liquidsin · · Score: 1

      I agree with you on the points you made, but the parent to my post wasn't asking "what's the point of modding?", they were asking "why would you spend your money on that?". Sure, it's not too geeky to buy pre-modded cases, but not everyone is about being geeky, some people are just about the aesthetics of a clear/lit-up/painted/whatever case. So laugh all you want, but it's not up to you how other people spend their money. Posting a "how to do this yourself for half the price" sort of reply is adding to the conversation. Posting about how people who buy these are stupid and wasting their money just makes you look like an ass and leaves more crap for the rest of us to wade through. And in this case, it wasted mod points.

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  24. I laugh at your clear case! by divide+overflow · · Score: 4, Funny

    Us Alpha Nerds don't use cases. We just lay our motherboards down on cardboard pizza delivery boxes. Clear computer cases are for posers.

  25. Gotta love those dust bunnies by Txiasaeia · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I seriously don't know why these things are cool. I mean, sure, if you were to add some LED case fans, flourescent lights, stuff like that it might be cool, but could you imagine how often you'll hafta dust the thing? I have enough asthmatic problems just opening my case; I don't want to wheeze every time I *see* it.

    You want to pimp out your case? Just take a drill with different size drill bits, and create a funky crop circle on the front, or side, or whatever. Cheap solution.

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    1. Re:Gotta love those dust bunnies by saskboy · · Score: 1

      Good point about the dust, but do you really think that giving your case "speed holes" will improve performance? ;-) Simpsons plug inevitable.

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  26. Dust? by Quill_28 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I hear just a little dust makes these look bad, and it needs regular cleaning. Something to keep in mind.
    Not for me but whatever floats your boat.

    1. Re:Dust? by cap'n+foolsy · · Score: 1

      well, not if you don't really use it. since these things offer almost no EM shielding, they're not really useful - just for show, folks. you have to admit, it *does* look cool. i suppose if you have enough money to waste on something like this, you have enough money for another computer, one that's actually useful.

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  27. With a clear case..... by scottp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    you could see how much dust the fans actually suck in? Firgure out the amount of time it takes a dust bunny to form? Observe housing structures and construction techniques for the local spider population? Throw perfectly good beer money away buying lights, blinking fans, etc? See what color of smoke actually comes out of the cpu from overclocking? Gain a little EMR? Buying a PERL book would be way more useful and beneficial.....just my 2 cents..

    1. Re:With a clear case..... by Dead+Goon · · Score: 1

      you could actually see your hardware going wrong! I'd rather hide all my gear inside a case and never have to see it again.

    2. Re:With a clear case..... by maggot+the+shrew · · Score: 1

      Seriously people: http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/60fanfilguar.ht ml

      They're called filters, you put them over the top of your fan and dust the outside when you clean your room (you do dust, don't you?).

      I've been running a clear case (http://www.monkeybrains.net/~maggot/Streamline/De sktop.jpg) for a year and a half now, PSU goes in an external shielded container, there are filters over the front grill, yeah once every six months I clean out my case; I've done this with every computer I've owned.

      Why is everyone making such a big deal over the dust issue? I mean, you must have monster balls of lint in your boxen if you don't recognize the simplest of precautions, does it make you happier that you can't see them?

  28. Better Throw In Some Bounce by ewhac · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What about static electricity? Acrylic just loves to build up static. Even small amounts of static electricity, too small to be felt by human touch, will still turn expensive, delicate chips into expensive sand.

    Yeah, they're pretty, but it looks like they'll probably also shorten the life of your 1337 g4m1n6 r1g.

    Schwab

    1. Re:Better Throw In Some Bounce by saskboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Wouldn't Bounce shorten the life of the chips? I thought it was tiny granules of conductive material that is good at evenly distributing static charges in fabric by providing conductive paths. It could very well deliver the deadly charge you are trying to avoid.

      Just don't drag your case across a carpet, or touch an component after the case, unless it is a metal grounded part.

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    2. Re:Better Throw In Some Bounce by CTho9305 · · Score: 1

      Actually, Lexan / Plexiglas both conduct well enough to prevent static - they actually conduct well enough to cause problems if they touch the bottom of your motherboard. You need to make sure you have spacers/risers so that the motherboard isn't resting on the case.

  29. Solution: by shepd · · Score: 1

    Buy metal window screening. Here's a sample for those of you who live in countries that, for whatever reason, don't use this stuff. [ I hate going to England during the summer -- this is one of the reasons. ].

    Cut to cover plexiglass.

    Ensure there is no paint on inside of case. Scrub it off if there is.

    Sandwich window screen between case and plexiglass (you will have to remove the plexiglass to do this).

    Enjoy full radio EM sheilding. Be happy that your neighbours don't hate you.

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  30. GEEKINESS by TREETOP · · Score: 1

    What I can't figure out is why anyone would actually want to "customize" the appearance of their industrial duty number cruncher to begin with. What IS the point here? To show all the car and bike freaks, "look, am I not way cool?" I think somebody's trolling here.......

  31. Damn fake mods.. by DaLiNKz · · Score: 1

    I dont really care about clear cases, what does bug me is when people buy computers with mods to them.. sometimes being clear windows and stuff.. Just lame.

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  32. Dust bunnies by tinrobot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't know about the rest of you, but everytime I open my case, it's full of dust. I'm really not into vacumming my case just to be hip.

    1. Re:Dust bunnies by digitalsushi · · Score: 1

      Nah, it's cool.. I was reading about these paint mods they have, you can actually turn them opaque after a few hours of work. Crazy stuff these people come up with...

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  33. Another thing to clean, no thanks by Openadvocate · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, let's say I got everything installed and it looked great. Then I would have to open it up every month(at least) to clean it. With all the air going though there, the housing won't look pretty for long.

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    1. Re:Another thing to clean, no thanks by pclminion · · Score: 1
      With all the air going though there, the housing won't look pretty for long.

      Put one of those negative ion generators inside. It'll zap all that dust, and just imagine how all those negatively charged particules will enhace your computer's functionality!

  34. Where? by muzzmac · · Score: 1

    Apparently?

    Apparently you made that up?

    Come on. Back it up with a link please.

    1. Re:Where? by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      Apparently you made that up?

      Come on. Back it up with a link please.


      I got it from people that are knowledgeable in electronics and regulations. I really can't quote specific FCC regs any quicker than you can find an aluminum cased power supply that has the FCC mark on it.

  35. clear cases? no, thanks... by jejones · · Score: 1

    I have enough RFI making SWLing a major proctalgia. I'll stay with a tasteful Eeyore sticker for decoration, thank you very much.

  36. Anecdotal evidence by daVinci1980 · · Score: 1

    This actually happened to a friend of mine.. He was building a house for his car, as he wanted a MP3 player (this was about 4 years ago).

    He decided it would be really cool if he made the case entirely see-through (as many of these cases are.) So he completes the case, and goes home one evening. We had a storm that night. He comes back the next day, and as he's about to pick up the case, a huge (think RA2 Tesla trooper huge) arc goes across his motherboard. IT TURNED THE MOTHERBOARD BLACK.

    Needless to say, he decided not to attempt building another clear case.

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  37. They'll look dumb later on by pclminion · · Score: 2, Funny
    Can you imagine a 286 in a clear case with neon lights? It wouldn't look cool, it would look ridiculous.

    Just remember, 10 years from now your cool modded case with its dual Athlon 2600s is going to look like a funny piece of crap.

    1. Re:They'll look dumb later on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Just remember, 10 years from now your cool modded case with its dual Athlon 2600s is going to look like a funny piece of crap.

      10 years? try 10 minutes

    2. Re:They'll look dumb later on by Tycho · · Score: 1

      It would probably look something like this.

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  38. I have one... by blincoln · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...unlike at least 97% of the posters in this thread. I bought it for fun when I replaced my motherboard about six months ago.

    I like the way it looks, which is important since it's sitting in front of me whenever I do any computer-related work at home.

    I probably wouldn't buy one again though, because it's a hassle to keep clean, and I haven't found a way to keep the cabling looking neat since there's nowhere to hide the excess. Also, because the expansion card mounting bracket is Lucite like the rest of the case, it's kind of fragile. I think Soyo makes a case with a metal bracket, but they hadn't released it when I got this one.

    I haven't experienced any EMR issues either for the internal components or the external ones.

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  39. Sorta Simpsons by aztektum · · Score: 1

    I won't use case that casts a shadow..

    oh... wait

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  40. Re:Whats with the tits in the backround? by DanCo · · Score: 1

    Your comment got me to click the link - still wouldn't buy one of those things, so I guess their marketing strategy's sort of a wash...

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  41. Stupid EM misconceptions by Man+In+Black · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For God's sake people, you're NOT going to go sterile from the electromagnetic fields your computer emits... you're also not going to mutate or develop cancer either, it's simply not powerful enough (Fields from enormous power transmission lines are another matter).

    The main reason there are regulations is not for health concerns, but to make sure that stuff will work in proximity to other stuff (Except of course hospitals or airplanes, where health concerns and electrical systems are closely related). If your computer were to interfere with your monitor, that wouldn't be too good, would it?

    Some other myths I've seen around here is that if you block the electric field, then you block the magnetic field too... this is NOT always the case, since often the coupling mechanism will be much more sensitive to one form (electric or magnetic) than the other. I'm taking a class on electromagnetic compatibility this term, and we actually did an experiment to show the effect of grounded shielding on a coaxial cable. Basically, there were two cables kept very close together, and one was shielded. You'd apply a voltage to the unshielded one, and measure what was induced on the other one. There were clips to ground each side of the shield. The main point was so that we could see that if you grounded the shield at BOTH ends, it provided significantly more protection against noise. In fact, depending on the frequency, grounding it on one end had almost no effect whatsoever (maybe a 5% difference, and it depended on what end you grounded it on). This was because if the cable was only grounded at one end, it couldn't dissipate magnetic fields, since there was no loop for current to flow through.

    Effects also depend highly on the frequency. If I remember correctly, at lower frequencies, the electric field was more significant, and grounding the shield at one end had a fairly noticeable effect... whereas at high frequencies, the magnetic coupling was much more important.

    It's also worth pointing out that digital circuits are much worse for EM emissions, since the square waves used for clock signals generate enormous amounts of harmonics far exceeding the clock frequency. Even a 1 MHz clock can have frequency components past 15 MHz (This is very dependang on the "rise time" of the signal.. a "more perfect" square wave has more harmonics), so one can only imagine what's coming out of your 2 GHz machine!

    You will also NEVER eliminate ALL the noise from a circuit. I don't care if you encase the thing in a meter of iron, there is still some amount of emissions. The point is to get them to such a small level that they're negligible. Even if you have your case all together, there's still the possibility of it causing interference. Thicker shielding usually will lead to more effective protection, but it's still impossible to reduce the fields to absolutely zero.

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  42. How about a little less noise? by Vengeful+weenie · · Score: 2, Interesting
    It seems like they can design a case that isn't seen, but they can't design a case that isn't heard.

    I count five --albeit cool looking --fans in this case! This doesn't include the power supply fan(s) nor the CPU fan. What ever happened to the ideal of the nice quiet machine? Where's all the innovation on shutting the damm thing up?

    It reminds me of the first beta-Itanuim machine I saw. The machine had eight fans and spun them up in pairs to avoid pulling too much power. The thing sounded like an airplane taking off, and everyone complained that the temperature in the room kept going up; an eight hundred watt power supply. What a joke.

    1. Re:How about a little less noise? by spacedx · · Score: 1

      I have a Dell that I purchased in Nov of '02 and I can hear it only if I turn off all the other computers in the room, close the door, and put my head right next to the case. It's so quiet that for a moment after I took it out of the box and plugged it in, I tried to figure out why it wasn't working. That is, until the monitor lit up. A very, very welcome improvement over my PowerMac G4 aka das Jet Engine.

  43. I want by wadiwood · · Score: 1

    a panel of led lights in lots of different colors like those flashing christmas jewelry lights and logitech optical mice promotions.

    Then I could program my computer to look like Joshua in Wargames...

    Ah the movies define cool (but not practical)

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  44. Omg... by 0x1337 · · Score: 1

    Have any of the morons who designed these "1337" cases in the first place even THOUGHT about WHY the cases were metal to begin with? Oh oh its coming to me... wait.... SHIELDING!!! The Shielding of the computer from its environment so neither can interact in bad ways with each other.... Can't wait till some moron runs a Van de Graf near his "boxen"

  45. A note to case builders . . . by Chuu · · Score: 1

    I am in the market for a new case for my primary computer. I am willing to spend a LOT OF MONEY on one if it looks damn cool (those clear uv-sensative ones are nice).
    I have a big problem with all these "cool" cases though. My computer currently acts as a file server, and I have a Raid0 array for some IO-intensive work I do. This means I have 7 hard drives. This produces a HUGE amount of heat.
    I know I'm not the only one with this many hard drives, and I know I'm not the only one who is concerned with the heat these generate (somewhere on IBM's site there is a study done on failure rates vs. temperature in hard drives. The curve is EXPONENTIAL, not linear). For *YEARS* real server cases have had the option to stick an 80mm fan in front of the hard drive bays to help deal with this. The lack of this small feature keeps me from buying one of these cool cases, and I am assuming I am not the only one.
    In short, whoever designs these things, PLEASE add the 80mm fan bracket in front of the hard drive bays. The $0.0x extra it costs you will probably be offset in sales to people like me if your the first one to do it.

    Thank you.

  46. CVS by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 1

    Bad, I no longer use ClearCase. I use CVS... It is cheaper. ;)

  47. no clear ribbon cables yet? by iamhassi · · Score: 1

    clear PCs are great, but I'm surprised no one has released clear ribbon cables yet to match the clear PCs. Something like home speaker wires would work.

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  48. Seconded by yatest5 · · Score: 1

    I'd also like to apply the same rationale to any tech goods reviewed, especially flash new phones: on comes the perennial whiner 'well, I just want MY phone to make calls on' - DON'T FUCKING BUY ONE THEN, CUNT!

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  49. Re:Clean Case by Technician · · Score: 1

    It shouldn't be too difficult to keep the dirt out. Can the idea of exhaust fans and go to intake fans. The idea would be presurise the case. All intake air would go through a HEPA filter. Should keep it clean and tidy inside.

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  50. Hmmm... by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

    The only criteria I used for my case selection was (a) the size of the power supply and (b) whether or not it had space for all the fans I knew I'd need. You should be able to tell from this that I run SMP Atlons :-)

  51. Re:Clean Case by Technician · · Score: 1

    I said nothing regarding reduction of airflow. I mentioned instead of pumping air out of the case, we draw it in filtered. This prevents drawing it in all the vent holes dusty and unfiltered. Instead we draw it in using intake fans and filtering all intake air keeping it clean. The case vents then no longer bring dust laden air into the case.

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