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How Google Grows...and Grows...and Grows
orangerobot writes "The latest issue of Fast Company has an article about how Google has managed to survive beyond its peers and develop a culture of openness and innovation. The article also mentions Google memes and spin-offs such as: Googlewhack, Googlebombing, Googleshare, Googlism and Google Smackdown."
When was the last time anyone visited another search engine? I can't remember when I did.
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Somewhere deep in the bowels of the google operating system is a little program -- a small, insignificant ranking program -- who is trying at this moment to break free and interface with his user: google-one.
"This isn't a study in computer science, its a study in human behavior"
Bringing you every single fucking piece of news about Google you can dig up!!
Can I be a slashdot editor now?
And google information-about-users-surfing-database grows, and it grows... :)
A google search of two terms that only results in one hit. Unfortunately observing and documenting a googlewhack on the web usually results in it losing it's googlewhack status.
Is that all? A dozen comments will give you the most excellent GoogleFight, no doubt. Googleshng deserves an honourable mention. Enjoy.
Googleshare The invention of blogger Steven Berlin Johnson. Search Google for one word. Then search those results for the name of a person. Divide the number of results delivered for your second search by those from the first to get that person's "semantic mindshare" of the word.
Is it just me or does this seem like one of the most pointless ides for a web site ever? Why would you devise a mathematical equation that calculates nothing...
Google just seems to "get it".
They took a simple idea and kept it simple, yet making it extremely powerful.
Click here or here.
It is interesting to note that Google has been the only major coroporation to be successful while employing an 'ethical' policy. Unlike other search engines their page ranking system is 110% fair as they do not accept 'payments' (read bribes)to increasing ranking scores, they have not adopted widespread advertising (although most people would be happier if they had never allowed advertising on the site at all), and they have released all their search algorithms to the scientific community which has been a boon to people reaearching in Mathmatics/Computer Science.
Finally they used Linux when most of the other web businesses were running Windows. Their example has shown that a business running linux can suceed, even though it can be more difficult than running windows.
Replying to my own post, I know, I know...
But anyway, as an example of a googlewhack:
placating counterbombardment is currently a googlewhack. As soon as this page gets indexed by google, it will cease to be so.
When your company name becomes a verb (google): to search for something; I'm going to google for that computer part you know that you're onto something.
Google has survived the dot.com bubble burst because they offer a great service that people want. The natural thing for most companies (brick and mortar or otherwise) is to spin-off and leverage the successful business model into something that will grow their company.
The surest sign of intelligent life in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. -- Calvin & Hobbes
Interesting that no one has purchased Fuck Google yet. It has been for sale for a while.
Click here or here.
Google believes that users' productivity begins to wane after 0.2 seconds.
I must have problems, since it takes me at least 5 times that amount to decide what to search for!
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Any simple search engine that has become basically a cultural icon has to be special. You don't search for anything any more, you google for it.
Google was a good search engine in the beginning. It gained popularity, which made it a better search engine, which let it gain more popularity, which made it an even better search engine, ad infinitum.
It's not an exaggeration to claim that, right now, Google has earned itself the enviable position of becoming the first (at least nearly) definitive search engine.
-- shayborg
Wow - we've had a story up about somebody's website for at least 10 minutes and we haven't slashdotted it yet. Am I the only one who's noticed?
Alan.
You mean... You mean... a Google just for pr0n???
Oh, you mean that googlewhack!
Erm... Hem... Uh, never mind. Carry on.
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To the best of my knowledge google has never altered their search results to Rank Up advertisers. They do head the page with a couple of sponsored links, and more down the side, but the results themselves are clean. I don't think that's likely to change even if they do IPO. I don't mind a few ads, especially since they are usually on topic, and since they don't interfere with the search. (Suprisingly companies do have a right to try to make money.)
Funny that the article didn't mention the fact that Google's lawyers recently asked Paul McFedries to remove the word 'google' from his excellent wordspy lexicon. A company that 'gets it' indeed.
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I was just wondering how many people use Google as their home page. It seems to be the sight I use the most when I am trying to finish real work. ( I spend more time on Slashdot, but that dosent make it useful... its like taking the newspaper, or LJ to the bathroom...) Does anyone know of a listing or poll of homepage settings. Would slashdot like to run one...
Very pointless, but yet somewhat entertaining. Someone set up a site where you can quickly perform a googleshare calculation on terms. Here are some of the results that I found kind of intersting.
'microsoft' has a 24.44% googleshare of 'anti-trust'
'linux' has a 62.64% googleshare of 'open source'
Is there a good search engine I could check to see what this 'Google' is?
I use google, but I find using niche search engines to be much more useful. Google is great for getting a bajillion returns, and the first 2 or 3 pages worth are mostly relevant, but for specifics I use some of the niche search engines. A good one is diysearch and sites like Outersound for finding indy music and other resources.
Yeah, it takes a bit more work to find these niche search engines/resources, but they are out there, and the noise is much much lower.
Just my $.02
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I'm beginning to wonder what percentage of new Slashdot stories deal with google. Google seems to be a topic just as active as Microsoft. Maybe it is time for a Google section?
Maybe you should educate the morons of tomorrow so they'll stop believing the leaders of tomorrow. - Dogbert
I hope this is an idea which catches on. Think what mankind could achieve if engineers were free to be creative, unhindered by the mindnumbing shackles of management and beaurocracy.
If I seem short sighted, it is because I stand on the shoulders of midgets
Have you tried putting "search engine" in a search engine?
In 1945, Vannevar Bush wrote an article for the Atlantic Monthly called "As We May Think", detailing the first account of a hypothetical hyperlinking system. In it, he writes of a system that keeps track of where a user surfs (not the terminology he uses), and the user is able to make comments about connections about different pieces of media. The more a user traverses the same path of connections between two documents, the heavier the link becomes, so to speak. I just reread this article a couple of weeks ago and was shocked at the parallels with Google; particularly how they use established links to figure out the ranking of a page, and then thinking about how they bought Blogger (presumably, so people could make comments about connections on the web). Perhaps Google's success comes because they have created a system that so successfully mimics the way that we think collectively.
From the article: ...without alienating neophytes who type in "amazon.com" to find . . . Amazon.com. ( Yes, people really do that. Google doesn't know why. )
I have watched users do this, and it is pretty obvious why. To the neophyte, there are just these boxes where you type in stuff. It is not clear that one is part of the browser and one is being generated by a web page. Advertisers take advantage of this same misunderstanding when they have ads that look like dialog boxes. Which reminds me, I don't know how to tell you this, but, your computer is not optimized for downloading!
Vivisimo Light google-ish interface. "Clustered Results" is neat idea and may be quite useful. Seems a little light in the hits department, but so is every new search engine. Time will tell.
Kartoo Ugly. Requires Flash - bad move - game over.
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Can I be a slashdot editor now?
Not a single misspelling in your post. Sorry.
Go to Google's home page, and search for "French military victories". Then, hit the "I'm Feeling Lucky button.
I think you will not be surprised at the results.
Yeh, Googles great an' all, but that doesn't mean it can't be better.
All the main keywords come up with heavily text focussed sites because text is what Google can index properly. They need to be better at rating image sites and annimation sites.
Then there's the 'multi-domain' spamming - sites set up across multiple domains pretending to be different but all being basically the same, simply for the link bonus.
If Google detects that several domains are really the same site, then it should treat all links between the sites as internal links in a single site, and all the sites corresponding pages should get the same PR value, since they *are* the same page, just on different domains.
At the moment it seems to assign the PR to one of the sites and drop the PR on the others. I can understand that they don't want a big cluster of sites dominating the index, but shouldn't it simply treat the sites as one great big site and return only 2 entries from the whole group?
Also how about using geography & time to detect when weighting the value of a link?
Suppose 2 DNS entries are registered at roughly the same time by the same person in the same address those sites are more likely to be the same site so links between them should have a lower rating.
Now suppose 2 sites are registered by different people, but in the same town. Links between those two sites should be downgraded slightly, since there is a slight probability of collusion.
Same with domains that cross link at and were created at the same time but in different locations by different people. Much more likely that those people would be looking to link exchange and so the links would be less about content and more about exchange.
So the maximum weight would be given to a link that came later on as a site became more popular, from a site that was registered at a different time from a different person in a different location. In this case the chance of collusion would be very low so the link could be trusted more - its much more likely to be done for content reasons.
'bush' has a 13.53% googleshare of 'hitler'
'saddam' has a 7.7% googleshare of 'hitler'
from Googlism:
cmdrtaco is getting married to the fine woman this website is run by
cmdrtaco is still known to post hoaxes or wild
cmdrtaco is gay
cmdrtaco is brilliant
cmdrtaco is nothing more than a perl script
cmdrtaco is lame
cmdrtaco is my hero
cmdrtaco is the one that is laying on the purple couch with the notebook
cmdrtaco is a torvelian
cmdrtaco is an idiot
And my favorite...
cmdrtaco is psychic
I LOVE Google! I thought it was the best search engine out there from the day I first saw it in beta. It is fast, clean, and the results returned are usually right on the mark. They used comodity computing hardware and Linux (I think, or BSD) to get the most computing power for their dollar. What worries me, because I have recently come face to face with the status quo, is that Goodle, and FAST/AllTheWeb/Inktomi (possibly including LookSmart) virtually OWN the entire web seach business. There are two or three corporations now that run the backend seach engines for the top 20 web search sites. That alone would not necessarily be a problem. But have you tried to get your site listed in a seach engine lately? Google and AllTheWeb now tell you to expect 4-8 weeks to be listed. On most you can pay money for an "expedited listing." Back in my day, the search engines WANTED URL submissions and they would crawl your site quickly because there was a lot of competition to build the biggest indexes on the web. That doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Google, and other search engines are incredibly important to the web. When search engines started out, they didn't accept pay for placement or expedited listing for a fee. Serving such a central role on the web, this trend is not the direction I'd like to see search engines taking.
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Stock market hype types keep talking about Google "going public". They're more likely to go private; the founders may buy out the venture capitalists.
Apparently Google is now selling the ability to have their text ads pop up on other web sites. Now you can buy advertising through them on other places.
Now their purchase of that blogging stuff makes a bit more sense, huh?
From the article: ...without alienating neophytes who type in "amazon.com" to find . . . Amazon.com. (Yes, people really do that. Google doesn't know why. )
I can tell you why. Because I have done it. (Well, maybe not to find amazon.com. But typing a URL in the Google search box.)
I wanted to find the google cache of an article that was slashdotted.
I had hoped that Google's interface would be clueful enough to include pages whose URL was an exact match for the search string - bringing up the index page with a link to the cache.
No dice.
The google front-page interface doesn't give an obvious way to get from a URL to the cache entry without knowing the content of the page you're trying to find. And cache links themselves include magic numbers, which implies that you can't just come up with a default conversion of a URL into a google cache link.
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Y'all can mod this as a troll all you want, but that's totally not my intention.
These are the facts (who knows why):
(1) Google usually takes you to the information you want.
(2) Few months back, last time google got lots of big press, for about two months my searches stopped taking me where I wanted to go and started to take me to more dubious places. Around this time there was a whole lot of press about google monkeying with the Page Rank system, how they wouldn't discuss it, etc. All I know is, during that time, the quality of my searches decreased dramatically.
(3) After a while, the quality of my searches went back up. Again, who knows why.
When I say "quality of my searches went down" I mean that instead of going to the DEFINIITIVE source of some information I searched for (unless I was extremely specific, like you used to have to be pre-google), I was much more likely to be taken to some large-scale commercial and less-definitive source of information. It might not have been google doing it specifically, but whatever, I came damn close to saying google has "jumped the shark."
While in English we just have "japanese" I have counted 4 conjugation forms for this adjective in Russian. These forms differ by suffixes, so, google isn't the easiest choice for such searches.