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GnomeDex 3.0

HackerStickers writes "The Fellowship of the Geeks - Aka Gnomedex 3.0 is the geeks conference of the year. This weekend-long geek-a-thon has had upwards and over 500 attendees all having the common love of technology. Des Moines, Iowa is where the Geeks will tromp July 25th & 26th both in business and pleasure. The lockergnome crew will be there and the list of speakers keeps growing with great topics by Jim Louderback, your very own slashdot man - Rob Malda, Tim O'Reilly, and not-so-decided topics by both MS and Google."

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  1. Soooo what your saying.... by MeanE · · Score: 4, Funny

    is if I am looking for a place to pick up chicks this is not it?

    1. Re:Soooo what your saying.... by TopShelf · · Score: 1

      no, but I'm sure there are some nice cattle to hit on... even besides the booth babes!

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    2. Re:Soooo what your saying.... by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      Have you ever seen the LockerGnome babes?

  2. I'm going to make a prediction... by confused+philosopher · · Score: 5, Funny

    "the Geeks will tromp July 25th & 26th both in business and pleasure"

    I'm going to say that the pleasure is going to be limitted to "computer related" joy, and not associated with the female gender.

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    1. Re:I'm going to make a prediction... by sirinek · · Score: 2, Funny

      But what about the female that shows up?

    2. Re:I'm going to make a prediction... by Lord_Slepnir · · Score: 1
      But what about the female that shows up?

      We couldn't afford her this year. Sorry :-(

    3. Re:I'm going to make a prediction... by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      Have you never seen the LockerGnome babes?

  3. Des Moines? by binaryDigit · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm sure this will end up being the 30th post about this but, Des Moines? I guess the Des Moines tourist board lobbied hard to get GnomeDex. It probably came down to a choice between Des Moines, Bryan Texas, and "that little town outside of Salt Lake that no one can pronounce". I guess they are offering attendees all the corn they can eat and a free plastic pig snout? Is the conference being held in the back of a general store? Cheap rates at the Motel 6 Des Moines?

    1. Re:Des Moines? by jhunsake · · Score: 1

      Being someone who grew up in Des Moines, I can assure everyone that it is quite boring. There are several smaller towns in Iowa that have much more things to do and more of a large-city feel.

    2. Re:Des Moines? by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 2, Informative

      Des Moines is cheap!

      The $99 conference fee, Des Moines hotel fees and cost of meals for the whole weekend is going to cost less then on night in a hotel room in NYC or San Francisco.

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    3. Re:Des Moines? by jpsst34 · · Score: 1

      0 Troll? C'mon! That was a perfectly good joke about Des Moines. It's on topic. It fits right in with the rest of the discussion.

      What made it a troll, because it was long? It was a good Dead Milkmen reference to Des Moines, Iowa. I could have left just the verse about Des Moines, but the whole song is funny and I thought I'd share.

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    4. Re:Des Moines? by jejones · · Score: 1

      Well...I still live in Des Moines. (I moved here in 1986 to do compiler work, which I did until I was laid off in 2001.)

      I moved here from central Oklahoma. Back when I was there, I felt culturally deprived--then I came to Iowa. Both states have interesting places to visit and beautiful landscapes, are good places to live, and have good people, and Iowa has some very good musicians indeed (such as, say, Bob Cook and Gary Audsley, Ashanti, Bob Black, Mike and Amy Finders, the Blue Band, and many others--and I presume most here have heard of a group from Des Moines called Slipknot...), BUT... just pick up a copy of the Oklahoma Gazette (the OKC area weekly "alternative" paper) and compare it with the pathetic Cityview and pointblank in Des Moines, and there is no comparison. (I will admit that I've not been to the Quad Cities area, or the various college towns in Iowa.)

      (That said, I second the recommendation of Java Joe's, and also want to point people at the fun and quirky Vaudeville Mews, right next door.)

      Re Nebraska: I can't agree. I wound up in downtown Omaha helping to publicize a small nearby Renaissance fair, and had a heck of a time. Beat the heck out of the oppressive thumpa-thumpa dance places on Court Avenue. (I don't need no fascist groove thang...)

    5. Re:Des Moines? by sparrow_hawk · · Score: 1

      Watch it, buddy. While you're in Des Moines (pronounced Deh Moyn), check out the NetINS folks, who sponsored a class on the Internet back in 1995 where I first learned about SLIP, Trumpet Winsock, and Eudora, and knocked around on the "graphical Web" with NCSA Mosaic for a while, back when all we had was text-mode service. They've been at this game for a while, mmkay?

    6. Re:Des Moines? by madfgurtbn · · Score: 1

      I'll take the bait--Every school, hospital, guard armory, etc., in the state has fiber optic connection to each other and the internet via Iowa Communications Network (ICN). Most school buildings have at least one videoconferencing classroom using the ICN. Many people are getting college credit over the ICN. It saves many thousands of miles of driving to night courses and the like.

      ICN has been more or less in complete since 1995 or so.

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    7. Re:Des Moines? by yomegaman · · Score: 1

      A little respect, please. In Iowa we call it "that gol'durn Interweb thingamajig". Get it right! :-)

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    8. Re:Des Moines? by MURL · · Score: 1

      yeah, yeah, that's all I ever heard about when I live in Iowa. "We've got the ICN, we're more advanced than the other states".

      Trouble was, ONLY the government offices, schools, and a very select few large corporations had access to the ICN.

      Iowa had remote college courses over microwave links in the late 70s. The ICN just replaced a cheap microwave network with a more costly fiber network.

      Did any small businesses, start-ups, or even small private colleges get any benifit out of the ICN?
      The answer I'm afraid, is "No".

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    9. Re:Des Moines? by madfgurtbn · · Score: 1

      Did any small businesses, start-ups, or even small private colleges get any benifit out of the ICN?

      When the ICN was being built there was a group called ICN Watch or something. They were a consortium of ISP's and other network providers such as phone companies, who made sure there was as little private use as possible of the network, because that would be competing with their business.

      So, yeah, the ICN could be a lot more useful than it is, but that would be basically illegal, as I understand it. I'm not a lawyer or network expert or anythnig, so I could be wrong.

      The Iowa legislature intermittently considers selling the network to private concerns; this session they threw in a last minute amendment of some kind to put it up for bids, I think.

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  4. Uh no... by xchino · · Score: 1

    Gnomedex is not the geek conference of the year, or even close. Saying geek 6 times in your article won't change that fact. I'm not sure I know what the geek conference of the year is, but I know this isn't it.

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  5. You should go! by Blaine+Hilton · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The best thing about this conference is it is run by small business "net geeks". The whole total amount of this is $99 and instead of being either on the West Coast or the east cost, they are smack dab in the middle of the country. What more can you ask for in a great conference?

    1. Re:You should go! by Surak · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The best thing about this conference is it is run by small business "net geeks". The whole total amount of this is $99 and instead of being either on the West Coast or the east cost, they are smack dab in the middle of the country. What more can you ask for in a great conference?

      Hawaii. Hot polynesian or west coast chicks wearing next to nothing. A place with a decent night life. A nice resort hotel, rather than the "Des Moines Motel 6". Other than that, not much.

      On the plus side, I've heard that Des Moines has casinos. :)

    2. Re:You should go! by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      Naked chicks?

    3. Re:You should go! by madfgurtbn · · Score: 1

      I've heard that Des Moines has casinos. :)

      It has Prairie Meadows racetrack and casino, but the casino is slot machines only--no table games. I don't know if Gnomedex falls during racing season or not. If the horses are not running you can usually bet on horse and dog races on closed circuit from other tracks.

      Table games are available in Iowa on riverboats and the Meskwaki Indians casino at Tama. Unless there is something new, I think the nearest to DSM is in Osceola.

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  6. Resolved: NOTGNOME by jdub! · · Score: 4, Informative

    Can someone please take this out of the GNOME section? It has utterly zip all to do with the far cooler, arse-kicking, totally Free Software GNOME Project.

    Thanks. :-)

    1. Re:Resolved: NOTGNOME by LooseChanj · · Score: 1

      And that arse that gets kicked is the users.

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    2. Re:Resolved: NOTGNOME by pohl · · Score: 1

      Strange...is this an example of embrace-and-extend branding?

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    3. Re:Resolved: NOTGNOME by siskbc · · Score: 1
      Re:Resolved: NOTGNOME

      Resolved? Somebody used to debate. What kind did you do?

      Yeah, I know this is OT moderators, so sue me

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    4. Re:Resolved: NOTGNOME by SquadBoy · · Score: 1

      I also was in the NFL!!!
      http://debate.uvm.edu/nfl.html I was team BTW.

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    5. Re:Resolved: NOTGNOME by Arandir · · Score: 1

      Yeah, sort of like "GNU/LiGNuX".

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  7. What do these small shows offer? by joeflies · · Score: 3, Insightful

    500 attendees is very small compared to the mega shows like JavaOne and RSA. What could one learn at this show that's not covered by the bigger shows or information that's above & beyond the standard press release/documentation of the products.

  8. Iowa by FortKnox · · Score: 5, Funny

    Des Moines, Iowa is where the Geeks will tromp July 25th & 26th both in business and pleasure.

    Bet you NEVER thought you'd ever read that sentence in a non-fictional sense, did ya? ;-)

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    1. Re:Iowa by NedTheNerd · · Score: 1

      sory retardville is south aka Alabama TeXas >:)

  9. Miss Gnomedex by ih8apple · · Score: 1

    Will Cmdr Taco be going for the title of Miss Gnomedex?

  10. Next Best Thing by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 1

    Even if you can't make it to the mecca of excitement that is Des Moines, you can still get your Lockergnome-approved daily dose of gnomish fun here...

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  11. Use of the word "geek" by AbbeyRoad · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I find the use of the word "Geek" derogatory. Why do such
    people find it necessary to define themselves by their group?
    Or even to bind themselves to a group or character in the
    first place. Is it not sufficient to leave yourself undefined
    and be responsive to your environment in your own right.

    Calling oneself a "geek" wreaks of embracing oppression as a
    means to feel liberated. This is insane.

    The most talented programmers and technical people I know
    don't call themselves anything at all.

    1. Re:Use of the word "geek" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I smell a true geek.

    2. Re:Use of the word "geek" by fobbman · · Score: 1

      Sure, but "social outcast" is has such a negative aftertaste.

    3. Re:Use of the word "geek" by JohnFluxx · · Score: 1

      Why are you branding us a "people"?
      Why do you feel the need to put us under this umbrella, putting me in the same group as mass-murderers and rapists?
      Why are you trying to bind me to that group?
      Is it not sufficient to leave me undefined?

    4. Re:Use of the word "geek" by Eric+Smith · · Score: 1
      I find the use of the word "Geek" derogatory.
      Then apparently you aren't one, so why do you care?
    5. Re:Use of the word "geek" by AlreadyStarted · · Score: 1

      word up my nigga

  12. Not GNOME-related by jejones · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's run by a guy named Chris Pirillo (who's from Des Moines, but since moved to California), who has a web site called lockergnome.com because someone tagged him with the nickname "Locker Gnome" in high school. It's nothing to do with GNOME, and when I was at GNOMEDEX last year about all there was to do with Linux period was a good talk by Doc Searls; aside from that it was M$ all the way. I can't vouch for this year, though.

    1. Re:Not GNOME-related by fobbman · · Score: 1

      I guess that explains why I wasn't able to network together my garden gnomes.

  13. No Respect ... by DogIsMyCoprocessor · · Score: 1

    The third bullet point on the Gnomedex home page is Why Des Moines?.

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  14. John Dvorak speaking.... by greygent · · Score: 2, Funny

    Guess that means I won't have to pack any toilet paper, I can just use the Gnomedex itinerary sheet.

  15. Gnomedex, bring on the geeks. by Admiral+Justin · · Score: 1

    As admin of help.lockergnome.com I know that the popularity of Gnomedex increases greatly every year. And this will only be the third year. Soon, it may be too big to be held in Iowa. I do think that this is a worthy thing to attend, as it isn't so much about the speakers and lecturers. It's about the people. The people there are some the friendliest and nicest people you'll find.

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    1. Re:Gnomedex, bring on the geeks. by LooseChanj · · Score: 1

      Too big for Iowa? Or Chris Pirillo's ego?

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  16. GNOME section icon by Mohammed+Al-Sahaf · · Score: 1

    Isnt it about time slashdot updated the GNOME section icon to the new GNOME logo?

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    1. Re:GNOME section icon by Nodatadj · · Score: 1

      Yes, and the colur scheme is now burned on my retina

  17. Des Moines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    I drove past it once or twice, let me see what I can remember about it...
    • At night, watch out for raccoons on the road. I hit one at about 10 pm, caused about $100 worth of damage.
    • Be sure to visit the Iowa-80 Truck Stop in the Quad Cities!
    • Go Hawkeyes!!!!!!11
    • Iowa has a chain of convenience stores named "Kum and Go".
  18. Gotta catch em all by IsoRashi · · Score: 1

    Sweet, finally I will be able to compile detailed information on all 151 different gnomes! Awesome! I love you guys!!

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    1. Re:Gotta catch em all by Admiral+Justin · · Score: 1

      Gotta have the master ball to catch Chris Pirillo.

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  19. Des Moines? by Realistic_Dragon · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is it really fair to stick all of those geeks at the end of the single 9600 baud modem feeding the 'innurnet' in Des Moins?

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  20. Iowa by SQLz · · Score: 1

    I don't go any place where people still use the phrase 'them city slickers'.

  21. Re:Des Moines? Home of Chris Parillo by Superfreaker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The lockergnome himself, Chris Parillo grew up in De Moines. Then he went to SF and joined tech tv, then got let go last month. Now he's back in Iowa.

    Go hawkeyes?

  22. And the Miss Gnomedex entries.... by Creedo · · Score: 1

    are, to put it mildly, very distubing. I am not sure which is worse, the naked guy or the wannabe pirate...

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  23. "What more can you ask for in a great conference?" by markv242 · · Score: 1
    Inexpensive airfare? I don't know about you, but flying to LAX/JFK is a lot cheaper than flying to DSM...

  24. Des Moines strip bars by kindfellow · · Score: 1

    Last year we went to this strip bar called the lumber yard -- "were you go to get wood" my wife commented on our way there. $15 cover, bring your own beer, pool tables and $7 large pizzas - not to mention all the naughty bits you can stand. It's one of the only places where a buck is still worth something. Oh yeah, the conference speakers were great too plus you got to TALK to anyone you wanted too. IMHO First year was 75% windows 25% linux. Second year was 50% windows, 25% linux, 25% Mac.

    1. Re:Des Moines strip bars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Also check out the Minx down the road from the Lumber Yard. Plus: Beach Girls, Big Earl's and the Outter Limits. All Strip Clubs, ranging from meth whores who should keep the clothes on to actually attractive dancers who take it all off. Something for everyone. Skip the computer crap, go to the strippers.

  25. Des Moines by boiscout · · Score: 1

    Hey hey, stop ripping on DM so badly. It's really a pretty good place to hang out...

    And a few places you may want to check out while here is Java Joe's on 4th street just off Court, and the Spaghetti Works ((515) 243-2195, 310 Court Ave)
    Court Ave is a great place to hang out basically.

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  26. I for one.... by SomeOtherGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I am glad that us in the midwest will actually be able to have an event that we can drive to in a couple of hours. I see all the posts blasting Des Moines, but these people don't seem to complain when the events are within shooting distance of where they live -- L.A., New York...etc..

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  27. Re:Des Moines by BobTheJanitor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There's a lot of nice bars downtown, too. On one side of Java Joe's is a really comfy (but smokey) English pub called the Royal Mile, and on the other side is The Lift, a smoke-free bar with art on the walls and amazing martinis. Spaghetti Works is often really crowded, but the food is good, and there's often live bands, and Nolen Plaza is a great place to sit and chat with friends.

    Des Moines (or Iowa, for that matter) has a totally unjustified reputation as being full of nothing but hicks and uneducated bumpkins. Come to GnomeDex, and you just might change your opinion.

  28. They just let their Linux newsletter writer go. by gscott · · Score: 1

    Read about it on his blog here:Frankly, I'd Rather Not.
    I really enjoyed his newsletter, called Penguin Shell. He's a good writer and it was helpful for a newbie. Shame he's gone now, but I'll be interested to see what his new site will be.

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    1. Re:They just let their Linux newsletter writer go. by fmerenda · · Score: 1

      Tony will be releasing his new newsletter/blog either tonight or tomorrow (Wednesday). Please stop on by and check it out!

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  29. I can answer this... by OwnerOfWhinyCat · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Why do such people find it necessary to define themselves by their group?

    Um. Because all humans do?

    My answer comes in three points.
    • Though Geekdom isn't a religion for me, religion is one of the best examples of these things. My little town has a eight little churches, and not a day goes by that you can't go to some kind of church event at one of them. I've talked to a large number of the folk that attend these gatherings. Their knowledge of the history surrounding the church and the flaws/merits of the different belief systems is rarely a match for mine. What it seems to come down to more often than not is that the congregation at their church has people whose company they enjoy and a preacher/minister/priest whose sermons speak to them at a personal level. Subsets of those same crowds gather based on enthusiasm for various sports, from the standard: football, baseball, soccer to the less so: curling, hopscotch, and rugby.

    • Geeks play or spectate on the Technology Sport. It truly is a game. It has big teams like HP, Apple, and IBM, and little ones like /., and MandrakeSoft. It has whole teams of ear-biters [we know who they are], and heated but friendly arguments over MVPs like Bruce, Eric, and Richard.

    • Every group of fans/players need an identifying group or logo to ease the job of finding like minded folks with which to congregate. If you want to talk sports with someone they can say they are a Chargers, Red Sox, and Brumbies fan. If you want to talk religion, they can say they are a formerly Jewish, briefly Catholic, Buddist. As in any other label these don't define all there is to a human, but like modem negotiation tones, they really do help you sync up in the beginning. This leaves those who fit the geek category with the task of picking a descriptive term. Technologist sounds too religious. HP fan, doesn't quite catch it. Hollywood has stomped on the more obvious terms with such generes as Revenge of the Nerds (I-MCLXII), and movies like "Hackers." So what is left to us?

    In summary, people like fellowship, technology is a sport, people who seek fellowship with fans of the Technology sport need a name. In my RandomHouse unabridged, the second definition of Geek is simply, 2. person, fellow.

    P.S. Iowa, in late July? How about we put the next one in scenic Barrow, AK in December?
    1. Re:I can answer this... by Broodje · · Score: 1

      P.S. Iowa, in late July? How about we put the next one in scenic Barrow, AK in December?

      Count me in! My life-goal is to make it to Barrow AK! Whacky!

  30. Re:Des Moines by jejones · · Score: 1

    The inward pressure that the Des Moines Metro exerts is lower than it used to be--the buses run until something like 11 at night now. (Before, they folded up shop around 6:30-7:00 p.m.) Still no buses on Sunday, though. (Woof.)

  31. Iowa by acoustix · · Score: 1

    Say what you want about my home state, but Iowa did have the first state-wide fiber optic network in the U.S.

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  32. Conference of the year? Ha! by Chris+Hanson · · Score: 1

    Gnomedex is fun and all, but if any developer thinks it's the "conference of the year" they need to get out more.

    Check out MacHack. MacHack is the conference Gnomedex desperately wishes it could be. Just ask Eric Raymond.

  33. Geeks??? by Mind+Socket · · Score: 1

    Ummm ... this is where Slashdot should've been noted as News for Geeks, so the appropriate Nerd title can be given to Lockergnomies.

    Don't get me wrong, I rate them as geeks too, but there is a certain Nerdiness about their philosophy.

    I wonder if there will be a witty little ad for something useless between each and every seat, just like their painful to read but useful newsletters.

  34. I'll bite too by Pov · · Score: 1

    Iowa is the holy grail of Internet connectivity. Most towns of over 10,000 people in Iowa have cheap broadband via DSL, cable-modem and fixed wireless. For Internet access, you won't much better.

    It's easy to bash Iowa, but not on Internet access. But nice try at being funny. (Oh yeah, it's also ranked top 10 in education for the last decade or so and one of the only places in America with pretty much no accent so you missed there too). Sorry.

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