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Berkeley TCP socket interface for the Apple IIgs
Scott C. Linnenbringer writes "In case you wanted to do something cool with your fancy little Apple IIgs in the back room, you can use GS/TCP to implement a standard BSD socket interface, allowing you to connect via SLIP, MacIP, and soon PPP on a GNO/ME (GNO Multitasking Environment) UNIX system for the IIgs, now completely abandoned, open-sourced and labeled freeware. GS/TCP also comes with ftp and inetd, built with ORCA/C directly from BSDi sources (hacked, of course,) and a text web browser for GNO/ME can be found at the website."
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Following my work researching The Linux Gay Conspiracy, I am saddened to announced that I have discovered yet another
orgy of perverted heterophobic values. My claim lies with the Slashdot mangement.
First, what kind of name is Slashdot? This is obviously a code word in the homosexual community for something perverted.
Slashdot is an anagram of LAD SHOTS, which refers to Slashdot's pedophile agenda and T ASS HOLD, which refers to
some gay sexual posistion that Michael and CmdrTaco enjoy.
The 'editors' of Slashdot, as they call themselves, are homosexual swingers with cleverly disguised nicknames.
CmdrTaco (aka "Rob" Malda) is the "head" honcho of Slashdot.
Cmdr obviously refers to his desire to dominate over his gay partners, and Taco is obviously a sly reference to his colon.
Update: It is well known that Taco claims to be married to Kate Fent. No one really believes that 'she' is actually his
wife. We have proof that this 'she' is actually a he. It turns out that Kathleen Fent is an anagram of KAHN FELT EN ET.
So this Kate of his is really Kahn who "felt in it". I will not describe what that means as I am sure you can imagine yourself.
Michael Sims, who goes as 'michael' on Slashdot, is a well known thug and advancer of homosexual agenda. His name is an anagram of
ASS CHIME MIL which obviously refers to his desire to flaunt his lower organ.Update: It turns out that Michael
Sims is an anagram of ASS LICE, HMM, I?. That is so sick that words cannot describe the horror.
Father Randy "Pudge" O'Day is Slashdot's Mac propagandist.
Macintosh computers are well known as the Gay computer due to their homosexual colors and stylings. An email exchange between
'Pudge' and Apple HQ have been leaked by a former Apple employee who converted to heterosexuality. These two emails (here and here) have been repeatedly posted on Slashdot, but are
quickly censored by Slashdot moderators who do not want the public to know about its agenda.Update form Subject Line Troll - it appears the O'Day is just a few letter changes
away from I'm Gay and rhymes with O'Day. Is anyone surprised that Mr. Pudge is a fudge packing Mac hippie?
Simoniker, a recent addition to Slashdot has been uncovered as Mr. Goatse himself. Simoniker is a frequent poster to the Games section of Slashdot, obviously
because he enjoies modded versions of Quake 3 and UT2K3 as a homosexual warrior who likes to 'overcome' his opponents with his
exagerated sized love member. In addition, Simoniker is an anagram of KEN I RIM SO (Ken is probably his current
boyfriend) and MEN I IRK SO (which refers to his frustratingly troubled gay relationships, probably due to his rather
large asshole).
Please reply with additional information, contributions, and corrections. I will include any additional information and credit
you with it in my further releases of this report.
Freeware? Nay, I say, GNO is GPL!
FP
-uso.
Dreams, dreams, don't doubt dreams, dreaming children's dreaming dreams. Sailor Moon SS
* Are you gay?
* Are you a nigger?
* Are you a GAY NIGGER?
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-A Proudly Gay Nigger
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Don't you mean GNU/GNO/ME?
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Following my work researching The Linux Gay Conspiracy, I am saddened to announced that I have discovered yet another orgy of perverted heterophobic values. My claim lies with the Slashdot mangement.
First, what kind of name is Slashdot? This is obviously a code word in the homosexual community for something perverted.
Slashdot is an anagram of LAD SHOTS, which refers to Slashdot's pedophile agenda and T ASS HOLD, which refers to some gay sexual posistion that Michael and CmdrTaco enjoy.
The 'editors' of Slashdot, as they call themselves, are homosexual swingers with cleverly disguised nicknames.
CmdrTaco (aka "Rob" Malda) is the "head" honcho of Slashdot. Cmdr obviously refers to his desire to dominate over his gay partners, and Taco is obviously a sly reference to his colon. Update: It is well known that Taco claims to be married to Kate Fent. No one really believes that 'she' is actually his wife. We have proof that this 'she' is actually a he. It turns out that Kathleen Fent is an anagram of KAHN FELT EN ET. So this Kate of his is really Kahn who "felt in it". I will not describe what that means as I am sure you can imagine yourself.
Michael Sims, who goes as 'michael' on Slashdot, is a well known thug and advancer of homosexual agenda. His name is an anagram of ASS CHIME MIL which obviously refers to his desire to flaunt his lower organ.Update: It turns out that Michael Sims is an anagram of ASS LICE, HMM, I?. That is so sick that words cannot describe the horror.
Father Randy "Pudge" O'Day is Slashdot's Mac propagandist. Macintosh computers are well known as the Gay computer due to their homosexual colors and stylings. An email exchange between 'Pudge' and Apple HQ have been leaked by a former Apple employee who converted to heterosexuality. These two emails (here and here) have been repeatedly posted on Slashdot, but are quickly censored by Slashdot moderators who do not want the public to know about its agenda.Update form Subject Line Troll - it appears the O'Day is just a few letter changes away from I'm Gay and rhymes with O'Day. Is anyone surprised that Mr. Pudge is a fudge packing Mac hippie?
Simoniker, a recent addition to Slashdot has been uncovered as Mr. Goatse himself. Simoniker is a frequent poster to the Games section of Slashdot, obviously because he enjoies modded versions of Quake 3 and UT2K3 as a homosexual warrior who likes to 'overcome' his opponents with his exagerated sized love member. In addition, Simoniker is an anagram of KEN I RIM SO (Ken is probably his current boyfriend) and MEN I IRK SO (which refers to his frustratingly troubled gay relationships, probably due to his rather large asshole).
Please reply with additional information, contributions, and corrections. I will include any additional information and credit you with it in my further releases of this report.
fuck all you cunts
Just when you thought the web couldn't get any slower....
The ironic part is that the whole thing runs about as fast as a browser on OS X.
What if I already have a beowulf cluster of them?
Karma: Can there be a void?
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FP
u R teh f4L3y0R3!!!
beeyotch!!
TAHWTMA = This arcticle has way to many acronyms.
Can you imagine a non techie reading this article.
Posted from the nero-online.org Troll Library
Following my work researching The Linux Gay Conspiracy, I am saddened to announced that I have discovered yet another orgy of perverted heterophobic values. My claim lies with the Slashdot mangement.
First, what kind of name is Slashdot? This is obviously a code word in the homosexual community for something perverted.
Slashdot is an anagram of LAD SHOTS, which refers to Slashdot's pedophile agenda and T ASS HOLD, which refers to some gay sexual posistion that Michael and CmdrTaco enjoy.
The 'editors' of Slashdot, as they call themselves, are homosexual swingers with cleverly disguised nicknames.
CmdrTaco (aka "Rob" Malda) is the "head" honcho of Slashdot. Cmdr obviously refers to his desire to dominate over his gay partners, and Taco is obviously a sly reference to his colon. Update: It is well known that Taco claims to be married to Kate Fent. No one really believes that 'she' is actually his wife. We have proof that this 'she' is actually a he. It turns out that Kathleen Fent is an anagram of KAHN FELT EN ET. So this Kate of his is really Kahn who "felt in it". I will not describe what that means as I am sure you can imagine yourself.
Michael Sims, who goes as 'michael' on Slashdot, is a well known thug and advancer of homosexual agenda. His name is an anagram of ASS CHIME MIL which obviously refers to his desire to flaunt his lower organ.Update: It turns out that Michael Sims is also an anagram of ASS LICE, HMM, I?. That is so sick that words cannot describe the horror.
Father Randy "Pudge" O'Day is Slashdot's Mac propagandist. Macintosh computers are well known as the Gay computer due to their homosexual colors and stylings. An email exchange between 'Pudge' and Apple HQ have been leaked by a former Apple employee who converted to heterosexuality. These two emails (here and here) have been repeatedly posted on Slashdot, but are quickly censored by Slashdot moderators who do not want the public to know about its agenda.Update form Subject Line Troll - it appears the O'Day is just a few letter changes away from I'm Gay and rhymes with O'Day. Is anyone surprised that Mr. Pudge is a fudge packing Mac hippie?
Simoniker, a recent addition to Slashdot has been uncovered as Mr. Goatse himself. Simoniker is a frequent poster to the Games section of Slashdot, obviously because he enjoies modded versions of Quake 3 and UT2K3 as a homosexual warrior who likes to 'overcome' his opponents with his exagerated sized love member. In addition, Simoniker is an anagram of KEN I RIM SO (Ken is probably his current boyfriend) and MEN I IRK SO (which refers to his frustratingly troubled gay relationships, probably due to his rather large asshole).
Please reply with additional information, contributions, and corrections. I will include any additional information and credit you with it in my further releases of this report.
This is news because the date on the picture is February, 1996?
BSD lives forever. And there is nothing that you can do about it. :)
That's nice and all but when can I get this for my Franklin Ace 1000? hmmm?
Please, before you use this software to develop any mission critical applications or enterprise solutions DOUBLE-CHECK that this GNO/ME is truly open-sourced.
Someone should also make sure SCO doesn't think they own the rights to it
Sweet! I can't wait to play Choplifter over the Internet!
Physicists do it with a big bang!
This is another one of those cool but completly useless projects.
Seriously, if your reading this, your probably have a better computer than an Apple IIgs.
In America we are imprisoned by our fear of them.
Kudos to those who pulls off stuff like these.
These companies were part of a fraudulent stock deal, commonly known as a "Pump and Dump". It is alleged in the leaked OSDN documents that Malda and Bates received payments in return for posting links to these falsified webpages, and stimulating grass roots interest in the Linux-based electronic products.
Why don't you just post the documents, instead of teasing us with this summary? If it's true, the facts will speak for themselves. It's not like Taco and Hemos will delete your comment.
It's not like Taco and Hemos will delete your comment.
HA!
Taco has the capability to delete comments. He has done it before when the DMCA was forced upon him, and if it came down to hiding something scandalous about what he did, he'd be more than happy to do that, dont you think?
I'm not familiar with the current legal status of the Minix source code, but I think it would be interesting to see a port of it to the IIgs. I don't have any illusions about such an effort yielding anything of practical use, I just think it would be cool. The x86 version of Minix will run on a PC/XT, a system whose processor lacks any sort of memory protection functionality, with 256k of memory and a single 360k floppy drive.
If an OS like contiki can be crafted for a C64, surely Minix or something like it can be made to work on the IIgs.
Lee
Muslim community leaders warn of backlash from tomorrow morning's terrorist attack.
This is good news, i havn't done anything with my IIgs but play Oregon Trail, Carmen Sandiago and Number Munchers.
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
No dissing the IIgs. I cut my teeth on that thing when the alternatives were a 286 with crappy cga graphics or IIE unless you had a pile of cash. I'm glad someone posted this....it's motivation enough to brave the dust of the attic eaves and break that baby out. I probably won't get past a nostalgic Bard's Tale game or two though.
Long live the IIgs!
Any reason there's no mention of marinetti in this article? Marinetti implements a TCP/IP stack for the IIgs, but works under the IIgs' native interface, GS/OS. There's telnet, ftp, AIM, and email apps already, and even the beginnings of a *graphical* web browser for it. And yes, it's open source as well.
"I feel that if a person can't communicate, the very least he can do is to shut up." -- Tom Lehrer
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Against some VERY stiff competition, I nominate this article for the coveted /. "Nerdiest Article of the Year".
I mean, sheesh, more acronyms in that description than unwilling virgins on this site...
Read reviews of shopping cart software
You'd have to be crazy to waste that much time on a woefully obsolete machine instead of using the modern one you've already got for the same purpose.
Repeal the DMCA!
Because we can.
But, seriously, I remember Apple IIes from grade school. They lagged when interpreting text based BASIC games... I mean, all of my programming assignments... Sounds like this stuff would make them keel over, more likely than not. Then again, the problem may have been the BASIC...
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Crudely Drawn Games
Anybody here tell me if this is all compatible with the hardware TCP/IP accelerators I've been reading about recently?
Gettin' this processin' off the tcp/ip stack on each machine would be heaven
This is both interesting and a terrible shame. It's interesting, because the people involved obviously have some talent. It's a shame, because they're devoting such talent to utterly useless projects.
There's NOTHING you couldn't do better, easier, cheaper, for less power/heat, in a smaller package, and faster(all by dozens of orders of magnitude)...with something more modern.
Even the 8-bit uC sitting on my desk right now runs at 50mhz, fully supports C or an easy to learn assembly language- it's got seperate data+IO busses, 5-6 serial ports(SPI, IrDA, RS232, RS485 are all supported), dozens of IO lines for bitwise or parallel IO...builtin ethernet with a VERY thorough royalty-free TCP/IP stack w/large set of utility routines, two forms of realtime operations(one is the uCOSII). Oh yes, and it costs about $50 in single-unit quantities including ethenet magnetics etc...with very aggressive quantity pricing. Oh, and it's based off the Z80 family, so if you know the Z80, you'll find this baby pretty familiar(if you hadn't guessed already, this is the Rabbit3000 core module.)
...and it's just ONE of hundreds of uC's available.
Please help metamoderate.
The TRS-80/Apple II flamewars. We'll just call it a draw, ok?
Apple Computer Announces The IIgs
RetroSoft's Exclusive Look
A motor-horse 2800KHz, 1MHz FSB and 8192KB RAM, all topped off with a beautiful, crisp, 2-bit (4-bit supported!), 640x480 monitor.
Apple really hit the mark with this beast, even including audiophiles that needed state-of-the-art mono sound output, capable of digital sound processing (line-in will be included in future models). When we listened to the latest hits in MIDI, they sounded remarkably better than our IBM-Compatible BEEP in QBasic.
Finally, the IIgs comes with a built-in floppy drive to store all your files, games, and, "most importantly music, " according to Steve Jobs.
"Now you can take all your music with you anywhere, over 1,000 digital music files in your pocket. The new floppy has no moving parts, meaning a better overall product for our users. We've got a real hit with the IIgs."
The Political Programmer
[ed. note: in the following text, former FreeBSD developer Mike Smith gives his reasons for abandoning FreeBSD]
When I stood for election to the FreeBSD core team nearly two years ago, many of you will recall that it was after a long series of debates during which I maintained that too much organisation, too many rules and too much formality would be a bad thing for the project.
Today, as I read the latest discussions on the future of the FreeBSD project, I see the same problem; a few new faces and many of the old going over the same tired arguments and suggesting variations on the same worthless schemes. Frankly I'm sick of it.
FreeBSD used to be fun. It used to be about doing things the right way. It used to be something that you could sink your teeth into when the mundane chores of programming for a living got you down. It was something cool and exciting; a way to spend your spare time on an endeavour you loved that was at the same time wholesome and worthwhile.
It's not anymore. It's about bylaws and committees and reports and milestones, telling others what to do and doing what you're told. It's about who can rant the longest or shout the loudest or mislead the most people into a bloc in order to legitimise doing what they think is best. Individuals notwithstanding, the project as a whole has lost track of where it's going, and has instead become obsessed with process and mechanics.
So I'm leaving core. I don't want to feel like I should be "doing something" about a project that has lost interest in having something done for it. I don't have the energy to fight what has clearly become a losing battle; I have a life to live and a job to keep, and I won't achieve any of the goals I personally consider worthwhile if I remain obligated to care for the project.
Discussion
I'm sure that I've offended some people already; I'm sure that by the time I'm done here, I'll have offended more. If you feel a need to play to the crowd in your replies rather than make a sincere effort to address the problems I'm discussing here, please do us the courtesy of playing your politics openly.
From a technical perspective, the project faces a set of challenges that significantly outstrips our ability to deliver. Some of the resources that we need to address these challenges are tied up in the fruitless metadiscussions that have raged since we made the mistake of electing officers. Others have left in disgust, or been driven out by the culture of abuse and distraction that has grown up since then. More may well remain available to recruitment, but while the project is busy infighting our chances for successful outreach are sorely diminished.
There's no simple solution to this. For the project to move forward, one or the other of the warring philosophies must win out; either the project returns to its laid-back roots and gets on with the work, or it transforms into a super-organised engineering project and executes a brilliant plan to deliver what, ultimately, we all know we want.
Whatever path is chosen, whatever balance is struck, the choosing and the striking are the important parts. The current indecision and endless conflict are incompatible with any sort of progress.
Trying to dissect the above is far beyond the scope of any parting shot, no matter how distended. All I can really ask of you all is to let go of the minutiae for a moment and take a look at the big picture. What is the ultimate goal here? How can we get there with as little overhead as possible? How would you like to be treated by your fellow travellers?
Shouts
To the Slashdot "BSD is dying" crowd - big deal. Death is part of the cycle; take a look at your soft, pallid bodies and consider that right this very moment, parts of you are dying. See? It's not so bad.
To the bulk of the FreeBSD committerbase and the developer community at large - keep your eyes on the real goals. I
You'd be ripped off if you bought IIgs-es at a dime a dozen. A linksys router is about 1500x faster than the IIgs. So, um, unless you're just really looking to win the "slowest, cheapest network" contest, I'm wondering what practical use this is.
Checked my calendar-- its not Apr. 1 anymore.
Well, what's this.. looks like someone has stumbled across some 7 year old webpages!
One should note that the GNO/ME distribution does not include GS/TCP. Indeed try Marinetti if you want to play around with TCP/IP on your GS.
GNO/ME stands for GNO's Not Orca.. named after the Orca shell in which you could use their compiler tools..
Not really worth checking out, unless it brings back that special nostalgia if you're one of the few who actually used this software 10 years ago.
I don't think I saw a link to www.gno.org so there it is, go grab your GNO! You can find download links if you like..
nerds R us.
Holy crap.
At what point does being a geek cease to be human interest and just become what dust does when the wind stops blowing?
Now I can setup that anonymous ftp server for my 1 pirated mp3 for people to download! When will someone port KaZaA for me?
Mordor...a magical, mythical land where women are more rare than dragons--but where every man would rather find a dragon
GNOME on an apple II? You must think we're fscking stupid or something. No way in hell.
Slowest. Article. Ever.
..people, carnivores... let's eat the meat!
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If you cannot speak the lanuage of reason, I cam capible of coming down to your level. That isn't a responsbile tactic with Google however, and isn't going to help Dave."
http://www.slackersguild.com/comments.pl?sid=75
From the
FAQ:
GNO contains components that originate with a variety of flavors of UNIX. These include 4.3BSD, XINU, and SYSV. It is mostly BSD. As of GNO v2.0.6, GNO has become closer to 4.4BSD. Work is in progress to make it as compliant as possible to POSIX 1003.1 and POSIX 1003.2.
-uso.
Dreams, dreams, don't doubt dreams, dreaming children's dreaming dreams. Sailor Moon SS
"you can use GS/TCP to implement a standard BSD socket interface, allowing you to connect via SLIP, MacIP, and soon PPP on a GNO/ME (GNO Multitasking Environment) UNIX system for the IIgs"
Sorry, but I have no idea what any of that means. Either I'm loosing my touch with IT issue, or there is another level of extreme geekdom that I have never before encountered. Is this kind of stuff relevant in today's IT industry, or is it mealy the electronic masturbation of the great un-shaved?
Offtopic, Inflammatory, Inappropriate, Illegal, or Offensive comments might be moderated up.
"In case you wanted to do something cool with your fancy little Apple IIgs in the back room"
Well, in that case, I'd rather go to Ninjaforce, download some demos, sit back and enjoy!
By the way, there is an IRC client, too.
I bet RMS intimidated the makers of GNOME into calling it GNO/ME.
If someone were proposing that this continue to be developed as part of a commerical enterprise I'd tell them to take the needle out of their arm.
The point of projects like this one is to have fun and learn skills that can be used for endeavors that have a more practical use.
What better way to learn the ins and outs of a TCP/IP stack than to implement one? What better way to learn about an OS than to write one, even if it is on hardware thats somewhere between having a Bar Mitzvah and being old enough to vote?
Lee
Muslim community leaders warn of backlash from tomorrow morning's terrorist attack.
Can your uC play Oregon Trail?
I bet it comes with a free TCP/IP stack too!
For all you kids at home with nothing to do and no Apple IIgs I recommend this fine emulator available at:
http://kegs.sourceforge.net/
Seriously, is there really a need for something like this to happen? At the risk of frowning on something that some guy did "just because he could", does anyone actually use these computers anymore? I deal with alot of users, and the OLDEST machine ive seen in years still being used as an internet capable machine is a 486/66DX. Those are few and far between. Im all for hobbys, (i recently spend a week learning how to program atari games) but is this really front page material? Arent there more pressing issues at hand ?
My earliest programming memories were on Apple II systems writing looping code in Logo or BASIC. In college, I concentrated on theoretical computer science, possibly because the general limits of computational machinery were made obvious to me through those early years on the apple.
Write some code in Visual Basic.NET and the first thing you notice is that you need a 4GB dual Xeon box just to boot the IDE! In a more efficient environment like VS6 or GCC+Emacs you have to write some complex code before you begin to notice performance limitations of the host machine.
I suppose this is analogous to hopping up 1960's muscle cars versus today's ricecars. The muscle cars were simple enough that owners could make meaningful performance upgrades. Modern cars benefit somewhat from a new chip, but most owners just change the bodywork and add lots of wings.
That having been said, I like my TiBook at least as much as I like my old Apple ][.
For years now, the common American penis bird has been a staple of every American's daily diet. Whether it be penis bird sandwiches, fried penis bird, or perhaps penis bird under glass (for the rich), we all have penis bird at least once a day. Many Americans have no clue how the penis bird became so important in the pyramid of a balanced diet, so in this article I will attempt to explain its history and why it is so useful.
In the early 1870s, Francis Zefran became the first penis bird breeder in North America. He started his famous Penis Bird Ranch in Canton, OH. At the time, not much was known of the penis bird's nutritional value, but the Penis Bird Ranch changed all of that. Not only did Francis Zefran raise penis birds to sell their colorful plumes (a VERY lucrative business), he also set up the world's first research lab dedicated solely to the study of the penis bird.
The lab found many interesting things. First, it was discovered that thepenis bird was actually semi-sentient. Second, the scientists found that the meat of the penis bird was high in protein, vitamin A, vitamin B, and calcium, while low in fat, cholestorol, and sodium. Never before had such a nutritious meal been had without supplement or fortification. The scientists of the lab recommended immediately that the penis bird become a part of every American's daily diet.
When the news of the penis bird's usefulness reached president Rutherford B. Hayes, he was absolutely ecstatic. You see, President Hayes owed a number of favors to Francis Zefran because as I said earlier, the penis bird plume trade was an extremely lucrative business and Mr. Zefran was important in getting RBH elected through a number of monetary gifts. President Hayes immediately asked Congress to pass what we all know today as the Hayes/Zefran Penis Bird Consumption Act.
The act did a number of things to make the penis bird a daily meal, most important of which was the requirement that for every four people in a household, one penis bird must consumed every day. Another thing the act did was create an artificial monopoly for Francis Zefran's Penis Bird Industries. The act stated that the only supplier of penis bird meat in the US would be PBI. As one would imagine, this quickly made Francis Zefran into the richest man in the world. He was soon a multi-billionaire (quadrillionaire with today's inflation). Never before had a single man seen such wealth.
Many challenges were made to the Hayes/Zefran Penis Bird Consumption Act, and several even made it the Supreme Court. It was argued that the act was unconstitutional and went against liberty itself, but once the detractors tasted delicious penis bird meat for the first time, they immediately dropped their cases and followed the law to the letter. We all know today that penis bird is the most delicious meat man has ever known, but at that time, the only meats people ate were pork and beef.
In the early 1970s, though, challenges to the act began again. Many argued that the monopoly given to Penis Bird Industries by the act was in all ways unamerican. The Supreme Court finally agreed, and in 1974, Section II of the act was struck down. This in effect opened the market to competition for all.
Today, Penis Bird Industries is almost no more. Today we have the market leader Penis Bird Meat International facing against Penissoft, a recent startup. Where will the future lead the penis bird market? Only time will tell us, but one thing is certain: penis birds are here to stay!
-klerck (Reproduced by AC)
I *have* a GS, and I don't use it. I emulate one on my PB 5300 (another limping animal that should be put down ;) with Bernie to the Rescue.
With the exception of the pain in the ass of making and managing floppy images (which is infinitely better than trying to nab them off a IIe) it works great. I'm glad that this software is free, but this just illustrates the BS of copyright laws. Unmaintained or un-updated software should lose copyright protection after 10 years AT MOST. This allows dumbasses like me to emulate, or actually *use* the hardware I own.
Like I'm going to go out and buy Karateka any time soon (Don't try to hit the princess, she will smoke your ass like a looter in a riot!).
Seriously, If the publishers need $$$ that bad, keep the trademarks (so someone can release Rescue Raiders II ((Rockstar Games??!)), and dump the software to freeware so assholes like me can play a classic, learn basic, explore and compare the limits of software and hardware of yesteryear and today, and so I can finally find out what I put on the back of those 5.25 floppies.
Oh, and not have to try and explain why Gemstone Warrior was so frickin' creepy-scary, and why the Beagle Brothers kicked ass.
Remember, all the software you use *right now* will still be copyrighted long after you're dead, Apple makes the G69 with OSeX (things will be looser that way, I'm sure) and Bill Gates will either be hooked up to a machine, or *be* a machine (let's hope it runs on Windows either way.
Good example - Cinemaware. Releasing all their old ROMs and images. *FREE* Defender of the Crown anyone?
Re-releasing the games for a new market: Phones, GBA, PDA etc.
Do more of that, or so help me, I'll grab Locksmith 6.0, and Copy II+ 7 and 9 and I'll do it for you, you publish-whores! Put that on a bun and eat it!
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dying
You sir have been voted the PRICK of the month. Congratulations. I have a business proposal for you. Read.
..AND BTW. BSD IS D_E_A_D!
MRS. SADE DANIELS
# 8 Queens Drive Ikoyi
Lagos.
INTRODUCTION: l am Mrs. Sade Daniels l know this proposal will come to you as a surprise because we have not met before either physically or through correspondence. I have no doubt in your ability to handle this proposal involving huge sum of money.
THE SUBJECT: MY HUSBAND CHIEF JOHNSON DANIELS (Now Late) was the Royal Head of my Community, JESSE (an oil rich town)in Nigeria. My late husband'S community produces 3.5% of the total crude oil production in Nigeria and 0.5% of the Dollar value of each barrel is paid to my husband as royalty by the Federal Government.
My husband was also the Chairman of OMPADEC,Jesse branch.In his position as the Royal head and Chairman of the OMPADEC, Jesse branch,he made some money which he left for me and our children asthe only thing to inherit. The money is Twelve Million US Dollars($12M).
Though this said fund accumulated between the period 1976-1998. Due to poor banking system in Nigeria and political instability as a result of past Military rules (1985-1999), he deposited this Money in a Strong Room/safe with an open beneficiary in Apex Bank of Nigeria pending when he would finish arrangement to transfer it abroad as a CONTRACT PAYMENT. He was planning this when he died late last year of Heart Attack.
THE PROPOSAL: Just before my husband died he called my attention to the money and charged me to look for a foreigner who would assist me in the transfer / investment of the funds abroad. So l would be very grateful if you could accept to help me archieve this great objective.
I promise to give you 20% of the total funds transferred to your vital bank account as compensation for your assistance. Five percent (5%)would be set aside to take care of all expenses we may incure during the transaction. To indicate your interest, contact me urgently and confidentially for more information and the roles you will play in this business. All the legal information concerning this Money will be sent to you as soon as we agree together.
Send your reply through this mail box, or see the note below
Yours faithfully,
MRS. Sade Daniels.
N.B I will like you to provide me immediately with your full names, telephone and fax numbers to enable my eldest son Hopewell Daniels to contact you. He shall handle this transaction from A-Z on behalf of the family. Alternatively you can call him on his telephone numbers 234-1-7759121, fax 234-1-7596291 Ask him for the code and he shall respond 'BORN-GREAT' before discussion. Just to be sure that you are speaking to him.
Apple IIgs is dying!
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P.D: why isn't this also in the apple section?
Then the copyright holder should have said this software is in the public domain. That would have meaning (as would licensing under the remarkably liberal new BSD and MIT X11 licenses). The term "freeware" has no legal meaning and is not a license, therefore it cannot be considered free software or open source. The FSF warns against using the word freeware to mean "free software". As things are, it is unclear exactly what the copyright holder(s) were trying to convey which means the software should be regarded as non-free and therefore it would be wise to avoid the software. Here's hoping the copyright holder(s) pick a free software license.
Digital Citizen
I don't think people grasp just how slow the Apple IIgs was.
I, of course, didn't. Middle school for me was defined by the l'il bugger, minus about six months of its power supply choking if I did something excessive like use the floppy drive (800K, and _no_ hard drive).
I have fond memories of flaming people for using ZIP when an obviously superior format, SHK(Shrinkit), was common for the IIgs.
Yeah -- my 2.2mhz speedster had a better algorithm than a PC *giggles*. Right.
Seriously, though -- graphical web browser? For IIgs? GIFS TOOK AN HOUR APIECE TO RENDER, line by godforsaken line...
That being said, did that machine have a bad ass sound synth or what...took like five years for PCs to even come close with the GUS, and a while longer before SB Live became common enough to surpass the synth capabilities of the trusty IIgs...
80's music? You mean MODs?
Oh yeah, ProTERM made for a great Unix dumb terminal...
--Dan
www.doxpara.com
Let the IIGS die.. it was a good machine for it time.
Want to improve your Karma? Instead of "Post Anonymously", try the "Post Humously" option.
Theres a channel on EFNet just for the GNAA? I thought EFNet was the GNAA!
In a more efficient environment like VS6 or GCC+Emacs..
Come again? I think you've confused Emacs with a usable text editor.
So, in other words, I have a 4GB dual Xeon laptop right here. Gee, thanks! I wonder what I can do with it? =)
[It's actually a P4-1.6 with 512MB RAM)
Ok I owned a IIgs and I was one of the early users of a GNO/ME. The Byteworks made great compilers and 360 made great tools. But that was '86. Now, who f-ing cares. I can pick up a cheap box for under $100 that will kick the butt of my souped up 14 MHz IIgs and runs Linux/[Free|Open|Net]BSD.
Hell a SparcStation IPX is smaller and has a 40 MHz processor. I can get 5 or 10 of them for $100.
I have to agree, this is useless. And I used to be a big IIgs fan, I guess that is what growing up is about - I threw out all my broken toys and bought new ones
Now that the Iranian conjoined twins are dead, the biggest question on our minds is... Were they ever fucked ever? I mean, imagine getting pussy off of a fucking conjoined fucking woman! What a rush, man! Hooo rah! Hoorah! I'm already gung ho and hard thinking about porking Islamic conjoined bitches for some good ole shizznozz. I would like to be the guy who ripped their clothing off, and fornicated with reckless abandon to deliver my spermic influx into their velvety crevasse! I mean, i would like to dirty Sanchez their mother and rip her fucking burka off and make her watch me fuck her conjoined daughters! Then I would wipe the cum off with Mohammed's shoal and throw it in a pile of pig shit.
Good grief, get a life...what a huge waste of time...
No, not really. So what's this do?
I have a IIGs, and I'm actually excited about this. It has been collecting dust, and now, I'm going to fire up my 2400 baud adb port modem and 'fly' online in textual 'happy apple' style. Now all we need is a networked multi-player version of Oregon Trail, and I'm happy for the next year!
Speak for yourself.
It's nice to see the IIGS mentioned on Slashdot. As for many others, I'm sure, it was my first introduction to computers -- heck, it WAS my first computer.
I used it quite a lot, from 1987 - 1996. I'm glad to see that development is still continuing. I only wish I could find a nice crisp RGB monitor (as my original one became blurry after years of use) to go with the computer. It's very cool to see that TCP/IP support is now available for these machines. On that note...
Anyone still actively using their IIGS for development/productive work?
The PC Weenies: 11 Years of Online Tech 'Too
Relax, not everything needs to be useful. (Like reading Slashdot...heh.)
Sometime people do things because it geves them pleasure. You remember, fun.
-- Slashdot: When Public Access TV Says "No"
This project has been around for a while, and every once in a while I think about implimenting it myself just for kicks. The idea of getting my IIgs on the internet with a graphical browser is just too geeky to ignore. I would require some upgrades like a hard disk, more memory and a means of actually connecting it to the internet but it's entirely doable. Donations anyone?
In the mean time I've decided to feature my IIgs itself as the focus for a mini photography project. Come on, it's a beautiful design!
You can find it in the gallery section of my website www.32bitwonder.org
If you can help with putting it on the web, please leave feedback on the site.
-Brad
www.brownsauce.org
This is definately faster!
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Clearly, what these people are trying to do by developing for antiquaited hardware is drive the value up so they can sell theirs on eBay. But I'm on to their underwear-stealing ways!
Gates' Law: Every 18 months, the speed of software halves.
Compared to vi Emacs is bloatware. But VS.Net developers hold Emacs up as a model of simplicity and efficiency...
I also spent many, many hours trying to get Marinetti to work. Our campus was wired with both 10baseT and for those without computers, dumb terminals connected via serial cables to the local HP/UX mail server. I had a friend set up PPP on his Linux machine and tried to get Marinetti to work over a telnet session over the serial line, but every time I tried to connect, I got a bouncing apple lockup (equivalent to a blue screen of death). I wanted to write an application or two for it (in assembly), and maybe try to port Lynx to GNO/ME, but I never did succeed in getting Marinetti working. Oh well.
Damn! I wish I had that much time to waste.
Now all we need is a networked multi-player version of Oregon Trail, and I'm happy for the next year!
Why stop there? Wolf 3D was ported to the IIgs.
Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
FINALLY! I've been waiting for this since 1993 or so!
//gs out of the closet--it's ZIPchipped to a blazing 16Mhz, with 16 phat megabytes of 256x4 DRAMs!
I'm going to have to drag my
GNO/ME was a replacement for the UNIX system that I always wanted back then but couldn't afford (or something like that.) My GS will now take a proud (but kind of slow) place next to my 14 linux machines.
I recently picked up a IIGS ROM 3 because the computer was so ahead of its time (and so I could play again the games on my old 5.25 inch floppies from my ][+). I continue to be amazed by the IIGS and its operating System GS/OS version 6.0.1.
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To give you an example of how ahead of its time this computer was: I am actually netbooting the computer from a Mac Plus running AppleShare File Server 3.0. No disks needed: the IIGS starts up over the network and runs its operating system from the Mac's hard drive. It's certainly not the fastest, but it gives me a 500 MB hard drive for my IIGS.
Information on setting up a netboot network for a IIGS ROM 3 can be found here:
http://www.mandrake.demon.co.uk/Apple/ltalk/iig
Truly geeky stuff.
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However, gstcp was never released (it was a demonstration for a masters degree, and once the degree was granted, the project was dropped without being released).
Marinetti (search sf.net for it) was a clean-room tcp implementation written from RFCs because the programmer (Richard Bennett) was tired of waiting for gstcp. It was first released in summer of 1997, IIRC.
I think the dates on the gnome announcement and gstcp homepage should have been an indication to the slashdot janitors. If they had bothered to check them.
You are very offensive and not funny at all.
Picking on 2 people who are *dead* and who endured a more painful life than imaginable is beyond comprehension. I bet you thought you were pretty cute while you hid behind your keyboard and typed something clever. I'd like to beat the shit out of you you racist bastard.
The reason many Arab people hate America is because of low life losers like you - you slanderous bigot.
If anyone finds this persons comments amusing they need to question their sense of morality.
When I released the GNO/ME sources, my intention was to allow people to do anything they wanted with it, except sell it. I maintain copyright on the software, so it is not public domain.
.h interface files, and a number of the standalone utilities.
I will never license anything under the GNU Public Virus.
Some of the components of GNO/ME are actually borrowed from BSD and licensed under the BSD license. This is primarily BSD API
Hey.. way to go Apple. You finally got Tcp/IP!!!! Boy O' Boy... the future is unlimited now eh?
I can't speak for the grandparent, but in my case my online humor and attitude bear little resemblance to my offline relationship to the world community.
Contrast our approach to that of holding all of one's fear and anger and hostility inside and ultimately blowing yourself up figuratively or literally.
not me
--Less Thinkin', More Drinkin'...
This is so lame. Why oh why do people spend countless hours performing stupid mundane projects just so they can get praise from their super-geeky friends?
:-P
This is so sad. I for one am sick and tired of Slashdot posting stupid-a$$ articles about projects NOBODY cares about except for maybe 30 year old virgin adults with 3" thick glasses that live in their parents basement still.
Oh wait! I take it all back! I forgot CmdrTaco was in this group!!!
^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H
Stop wasting news space!
- Voxel
Modesty is one of life's greatest attributes
Why do software-type people like the GPL so much? It's just gonna put us all out of business if it takes over!!!
Too Much Free Time
Ability to use TCP/IP on 17 year old computer: Done.
Linux Desktop Market share: What, 3%? 4%?
Cure for cancer: Not found.
Reasons anyone should care about this story: 0
Possible value of other things the talent required to do this took: Priceless.
I'd like to know how much time and talent was wasted on this. Are there really THAT many talented-but-unemployed IT professionals out there?
I downloaded the NCSA Mosaic browser and had a wizzy 14.4 modem connection to the net via Delphi or GEnie. In anycase, it was before Compuserve or AOL had a real internet gateway for even email. At the time I thought, "this bandwidth problem is gonna have to change to make this www thing work out." I was graduating high school. GS/OS, maxxed out at 8 MB or RAM (the realworld limit, it had 24 bit addressing). And yes while 640x200 only supported 4 bit color (everything was dithered; it printed out half height, so you didn't get what you saw on screen using AppleWorks GS.) there was a more useful 420x200 that supported hi bit color. You could trick it into doing a 4096 color palate per scan line, and effectivly have photographic images. It was pretty much only good for demos tho. I played Defender of the Crown until my floppies wore out. Then after it was like 8 years old I sold it to some dumb schmuck for $800. It was signed by WOZ. I had an accellerator card that amped it up to something like 6 or 8 Mhz, which made it approach the level of the Mac SE, but in color. You could buy a $50 sound card and have it output stereo 16 voice polyphonic sound from the Ensonic sound chip and input for recording. Plus Apple finially released their Genlock for the apple II, so you could export any video you could gnerate on top of a video signal (it had composite video out built in.) The IIGS was also the first machine from apple to have the platinum color scheme (rather than beige/brown IIe/Macs and the white IIc.) and had the first ADB keyboard/mouse. The SE and Mac II came out the next year with them.
AD 30 C0 -- LDA $C030 ; tweak speaker softswitch
20 ED FD -- JSR $FDED ; print contents of accumulator as ASCII char
4C 00 03 -- JMP $0300 ; go back to beginning of program
the Apple was the last good computer ever made
...till the US government imposes export restrictions on that powerful piece of hardware genius, the Apple ][, now that it will be able to do TCP/IP, and now might be seriously considered by vicious terrorists....
Stuff that matters? Definitely Not.
People shape laws. Not the other way around.
Feeding an AC troll, perhaps, but I am compelled by the ridiculous current (1,informative) score: there is no practical use! That's the point.
We use old computers because they remind us of when we were young. I learned 6502 assembly language on an Apple IIe when I was 13 and had one of my programs published in the November 1988 issue of Nybble (one/two-liner contest). _Those_ were the days when we did things because they were fun, not necessarily practical! Nowadays we must suffer with not-so-fun programming to earn a paycheck, and so we enjoy these moments of nostalgia. It may not matter, but it's news for nerds.
There is little to no practical use for a IIGS unless you are working to teach someone low level or even high level programming. There are numerous OS alternatives for the IIGS hardware, there are many compilers and also tools for it, as well it is a great fun entertaining system with loads of software. Yes, there are emulators, and a few are EXCEPTIONAL (sweet16 http://www.sheppyware.net and Bernie II the Rescue) that are really fun and useful. However, to address another angle, the IIGS is highly collectable, not due to some real intrinsic value, but a value that comes with memories and yes some irrational justifications for payment. Yet, for instance, it isn't stupid to buy IIGS at a dime a dozen or so, since the last time I did that I got about 2500 USD worth of resellable cards from them. So, with a return on investment after my gas, time and energy, I saw about a 10000% return on my money. Now, in todays stock markets, where can you say that is easy to do, or can be done legally? And a third irrational point, one that comes with experience of writing drivers for the II when I was a kid. The GOOD OLD DAYS OF COMPUTING are lost, and it is fun and great times to visit back to them, when things were a LOT more simple, shucksters were less abundant (at least obvious and sinisterly overt about it) and getting down to write a FORTH interpreter for the 65x02 systems was doable in a matter of days or weeks. Yes, the IIGS would make a likely poor choice for a router, and a linksys 5 port hub/router can be had for 49 dollars. But honestly, what can or do you really learn from a linksys other than a 192.168.1.1 HTML interface for configuration? Get a IIGS doing the job, and I understand the nuts and bolts of routing pretty well. It is just what your goals are, practicality or actually expanding your understanding of things. The call is yours, I choose to mess around with IIGS hardware and have a blast doing it!