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Finding Freeware Listing Sites?
A not-so Anonymous Coward asks: "CNET's download.com has become a 'pay to list' service, so it doesn't make sense to list freeware there, anymore. What are the best alternatives? Also, you cannot post linux software there anymore for any price: 'Note: We are no longer accepting any new submissions for Linux, and we will be discontinuing all coverage of Linux on our download sites shortly.' What is the hard working but generous coder supposed to do?"
What is the hard working but generous coder supposed to do?
Start writing Windows shareware obviously.
What trialware or shareware programs were good enough that you "registered" or paid for them ?
Were you coerced into it by nag screens and lack of functionality, or was it primarily good will and the desire to do the right thing ?
I hope this is not off-topic, but I've wondered for some time if there is a repository for images which are not copyrighted or otherwise IP-controlled: material made available for sharing. This would include artwork, photos, and scanned historic documents and images.
Does such a thing exist?
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
yesterday that I have entirely stopped going to download.com for anything. I used to hit that site several times a day. Now I either search for what I am looking for (either app name or what I want it to do) on google or check versiontracker/sourceforge/apple. But I definately use google to find free apps more than anything else.
"Windows Me offers tremendous reliability and stability improvements..." -- Paul Thurott
Will list your product, and even help you organize the support for it with mailing lists.
I want to delete my account but Slashdot doesn't allow it.
Well, for open source stuff there is always SourceForge and Freshmeat.
A few that some newbies may not have thought about:
FreshMeat, which will do a lot for your Linux software needs.
SourceForge for GPL software hosting (CVS and bug tracking, even)
For a more general software needs, VersionTracker, which started with Mac software, now lists Mac, OS X, Windows, and Palm software. For anything other than Macintosh listings, though, it tends to be somewhat limited.
Tocows also lists a lot of software. I have not looked through their Linux listings, but the Mac listings are pretty decent.
- (c) 2018 Hank Zimmerman
That is still around isn't it? I never really liked Tucows much, but I believe that whole deal continues to exist, although they might charge for all I know.
"Windows Me offers tremendous reliability and stability improvements..." -- Paul Thurott
Discontinuing all Linux support? Did I miss something or did sombody BUY Cnet this week?
Oh, I see the problem now. Take a look at this snippet from the new upload.com web page:
Welcome to the new Upload.com! Submitting your software product through Upload.com gets you listed in CNET Networks' download library, which delivers 2.5 million downloads per day. The basic processing fee is $79 to list your product in Download.com, ZDNet Downloads, and MSN Downloads.
Does anyone know who owns Cnet?
(Yeah, probably a troll, but not really. I'm genuine about the "who owns them" question because it just seems like an odd choice to make, you know, like Netscape announcing they're laying off 50 Netscape developers a couple of weeks after signing the MS agreement that gives them IE for seven years. It's just odd, you know?)
"Lawyers are for sucks."
- Doug McKenzie
apt-cache search foo :)
There is Versiontracker, which is very popular in the Macintosh community.
I'm not sure if it's free to list there, but with the amount of low-quality software on there I can image it is.
Oh, and there's Freshmeat too.
So while you may use their cvs for a GPL project, va linux can make a proprietary fork of it at anytime, or sell the rights to use the code to a commercial company.
That's the reason that mysql uses p4 for versioning, and only uses sf.net for binary downloads.
Savannah.gnu.org is a GPL fork of sourceforge used primarily for GNU projects, but will host any GPL project. BSD/other licenses don't care about proprietary forks, so sf.net is still useable for cvs.
Mods - before you kneejerk me down to -1, I suggest you do give the sf.net TOS a very thorough reading.
Tinyapps has some nice gems for Win32. The collection is not very big though.
Maybe the person really doesn't mean Free Software, but means no-cost software without the source code. It's still out there, you know.
Then there is MacGamefiles if you only want games.
A Multiplayer Strategy Game for Mac OS X, Windows, and Linux
What is the hard working but generous coder supposed to do?
Apparently, sell your software.
*rimshot*
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." - Thomas Jefferson
FSF/UNESCO Free Software Directory at http://www.gnu.org/directory/
Nothing like rolling up your sleeves and doing it yourself. You wouldn't neccessarily have to host the downloads themselves, just link to where you CAN download them.
The internet used to be brimming with freeware sites. They haven't completely gone away, but they're dissapearing fast. I mean true freeware sites, not shareware sites, or sites with crippleware.
Maybe it's just me, but I think it's another sign the Net's "free ride" days are over.
Life is hard, and the world is cruel
I get the impression the submitter is asking about windows, because as you have pointed out anyone who's used Linux for more than 10 min has figured out download.com isn't good for anything.
"Windows Me offers tremendous reliability and stability improvements..." -- Paul Thurott
I've been using Nonags.com for years.
www.nonags.com identifies "free" (as in beer) software that has "no nags" (no nag screens or crippled features). they have a good selection of open source software as well as "freely-distributable" (binary only) software.
Quite the opposite in fact
2. Ownership. Artist shall at all times retain all right, title and interest in and to the Artist Materials provided by Artist hereunder (including, without limitation, the copyrights therein and thereto), subject to the non-exclusive rights granted to deviantART under this Agreement. Artist is free to grant similar rights to others during and after the Term of this Agreement.
http://www.deviantart.com/help/faq/#5.2
Q. 5.2. Am I allowed to redistribute the art downloaded from here on other websites?
A. No. All art displayed here is copyrighted to the artist that submitted it and therefore if you desire to redistribute the art you will need to contact each individual artist that you are interested in distributing art from.
http://www.deviantart.com/policy/agreement.php
There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
VA believes they own your comments, too. However, mine belong to me and I don't grant a license to VA to do anything but display them on Slashdot.
Non-technical management are often amazingly destructive toward their companies. They often invent skillful ways of getting bad publicity.
I think the linux community desperately needs a software listing site that focuses on listing quality desktop applications. I am new to linux-on-the-desktop, and the most frustrating thing for me so far is finding quality desktop applications. I want to burn a CD -- how do I know what application to use? What are the top 5 best applications out there? Freshmeat's laundry list approach is useless unless you like wading through hundreds of half finished and abandoned projects.
Does anything like this exist?
Of course, once you know what you want, it is usually just an apt-get away.
S-A-VE has a list of software archives. It's in German, but also has a section of internation sites. Anyway, here is the Google translation.
Currently lists over 2300 packages, located right over here, and thankfully has a good search engine, because the "categories" aren't that helpful to me. (YMMV)
The article author didn't say anything about which OSes were being used, so *shrug*.
You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
other posters to this thread have suggested using deviant art, but you might do well to observe that deviant art by default licenses all those images free for non-commercial use. I'm not sure if this has changed at all though
Photos.
Has anyone mentioned Tucows already? If not it's where I generally look for freeware/shareware. Their listings and mirrors tend to be pretty good, but it was based closed to where I live so not everyone might have as good of luck with the mirrors, I don't really know.
Feel free to mod me "-1 - Angry Jerk".
That site brings back memories... using Trumpet Winsock (then later "twinsock") to get access to the 'net via my college's dialup terminal service. Browsing USENET (pre-SPAM era) with News Express. Using Web Wolf to spider the web. When Lycos was the king of search engines and Yahoo was still a decent site.
I'm surprised that Stroud's site is still around at all in some form.
Method of processing duck feet
The answer is to upload your file into freenet!
What does it offer in this situation?
Automatic load balancing.
You are guaranteed integrity and validity of origin.
Freshmeat should add to the meta info for each file, an optional link to the file through your cookie configurable freenet proxy.
Think of freenet as a distributed application like SETI, where the output is freedom of speech without risk of oppression for everyone running the program.
Well, since you're already using Debian, check out the package listings on the debian site : HERE. Of course, you could also use the dselect utility provided, but I do have to admit, it's klunky when searching for things.
For those of you not using Debian, this would be a good point of reference as well. Once you find the package you want, you can always do a google for it and find a package/source/tgz for your distro of choice.
Yes I realize this is not an all inclusive list, but it's better than nothing.
BR
Joe
"Perl 6 gives you the big knob" -- Larry Wall
You neglected to include the first paragraph of section 6...
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Use, reproduction, modification, and other intellectual property rights to data stored in CVS or as a file release and posted by any user on SourceForge.net ("Source Code") shall be subject to the OSI-approved license applicable to such Source Code, or to such other licensing arrangements that may be approved by SourceForge.net as applicable to such Source Code.
This paragraph says that the use of the code is subject to the license chosen to apply to the code
The paragraph you quoted says stuff that people write in message boards and bug reports is subject to whatever SourceForge wants to do with it. I would argue that putting files into cvs is not part of the 'publicly accessible site features' since the public can't put whatever into my project.
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I use this site a lot. Originally it had web related apps, but they have broadened their offerings over the last two years.
Apps come with ratings, file size, link to the developer home page, and also let you know if the free apps are Adware.
They have a Shareware section and a Freeware section.
Submitting info
Freeware
Shareware
Another O'Reilly service thing that looks pretty cool:
:)
http://www.osdir.com
Just found it myself today while looking around for a good CMS.
My blog
Sooner or later this will be challenged in court. If VA decides to add more provisions to their license, and they say, "We can come into your house at any time and eat your ice cream", would that be okay with everyone, just because they don't actually seem to do it? There is a limit, and that limit has never been made clear.
Slashdot, like Google, for example, is a public utility. It must be governed by different rules than private organizations.
Why do you pose it like it's some big mystery?
Probably because he's been confused by all those court findings against Microsoft using it's monopoly status to forge backroom deals to crush competitors.
You know, competitors like Netscape?
However, a "public utility" must not only abide by the terms in a TOS, but also with advertisements made by itself. By being solely a website, slashdot is sort of advertising that they only affect you through their website, so the ice cream clause in the TOS would be void. However, the clause about them owning everything you do on their website probably would hold up.
And there is no difference between "public utilities", "private organizations" and normal persons. They are all given equal protection under the law by the 14th amendment (I know, it only reads "persons", but the Supreme Court extended that meaning to include corporations and other organizations). The only restrictions made on a "public utilit[y]" are restrictions made by itself, such as by advertising, merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose, etc.
The problem is that the "Comments are owned by the poster" statement is misleading. The owners of Slashdot say that they can use the comments any time and any way they want, without payment or notice. That means, if a Slashdot comment author becomes a CEO of an important company, the owners of Slashdot can publish a book of his comments without payment.
That's why all of my comments are entirely owned by me. I grant no license to Slashdot. except to display my comments in the context in which they were entered. My opinion is that, if the terms of use were considered in court, the terms would be found to be invalid. Especially since, "Comments are owned by the Poster" is misleading authors about the terms.
If you have a package in mind, there are few better places to look than RPMfind, use your "local" mirror:
East Coast (MIT)
West Coast (Speakeasy)
France #1 (INRIA)
France #2 (INSA)
Replacement for Windows Explorer. Here is their homepage if you are curious. I think I originally read about it in a slashdot comment.
This paragraph (#6) is intended for text entered in tracker items, mailng lists archives and other posts you, the user, might enter onto SourceForge.net.
(Most sites have similar paragraphs to protect themselves from liability issues)
A project's code on SourceForge.net is different. The OSI license you use to release the code is the license that stands. If we, OSDN, ever decided to fork a project, we would have to follow the same rules and regulations that are governed in the project's OSI license. (no different then anyone else wishing to fork the code)
I hope this clears things up a bit.
Patrick McGovern
Director, SourceForge.net
pat@sf.net
Especially since, "Comments are owned by the Poster" is misleading authors about the terms.
Why is this misleading? Your comments are still owned by you. This means that all copyright rights a copyright holder has accrue to you, and you alone. By posting on Slashdot, you agree to abide by its terms of service, which essentially require you to give Slashdot an open-ended license to copy your comments. But you and you alone still own the comments. In the end, only you and Slashdot have the right to copy your comments. You pose the situation where you become a CEO and Slashdot is allowed to publish your comments, but the other -- and only other -- side of the coin is that if you become a famous CEO, ONLY YOU and Slashdot can publish your comments. That's what it means to be a copyright owner (and licensor to Slashdot).
That's what you get for the ability to post to Slashdot. Those ToS probably won't be found invalid for a number of reasons, the main one being that *you still own the copyright.*