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SSH or VNC From Your Cell Phone?
fintler writes "Andreas Karlsson has a working release of a simple ssh client for the Ericsson P800 and is looking for a way to imput control charactors in the interface. Here is Screenshot 1 and Screenshot 2. There's also a VNC client for the Ericsson P800 (Auf Deutsch!) written by Gino Micacchi with some more screenshots here and here."
oh sweet, as demonstrated via the pictures, using VNC from my mobile would allow me to check the status of my KaZaA downloads or check my email for my latest RIAA subpoena!
Mike
I thought it was illegal to encrypt over wireless connections... just for speech, I guess? Irregardless, I'd definently wipe this off the phone before travelling abroad just in case.
I can see the ssh client being semi-useful, but the screen is just too small to do anything much with VNC. This is one of the advantages of *nix imho, anything you can do in the gui, you're likely to be able to do on the command line. More often than not faster too.
There's so many uses for this; if you've got SSH on a mobile, the possibilites are endless. If you can remotely log into any of your other networked machines then you can do all kinds of things from a sufficiently sophisticated mobile. Just imagine what you could do as a journalist or undercover Amnesty International worker!
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A cellphone is less useful than a dumb VT100 terminal. Granted, you can't carry the terminal around, but if people would build a simple 80x25 screen with a tiny keyboard,that gets a login prompt from the service provider, that could be the most useful innovation since sliced bread.
Building intelligence into the client, but making data-input difficult, and not using standard protocols - seems a huge waste of money and bandwidth.
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"We didn't have room for a phone."
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The company I work for, Idokorro Mobile, has a working client (in beta) for the Nokia 3650 & 6800. Cool stuff.
I think I'd break my phone out of frustration long before I got logged in.
is something that makes cheap use of these remote use programs quite a pain for anything except emergency(that and the small screen too). much more convinient to have programs that have the interface on the phone..
irc and others are nice to have on phone though, gprs pricing usually ends up being cheaper than calling or sending sms messages too(if you can arrange the other person to be on irc as well).
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We've been trying to get a Compaq Ipaq working with VNC over the GPRS network here in the UK for a while now. Unfortunately, O2 our provider, is doing something crazy with NAT which breaks our ability to form a VNC connection. This was supposed to be my team's support device to take down the pub with them when they were on out of hours support but...
Anyone know of clients of similar sorts that will run on a Series 60 Symbian phone? I've been looking around but the VNC clients that I located refused to run on the phone after installing the package.
My Samsung phone has had a Java VNC client for quite some time already, odd that this would make news. Though that phone looks nicer than mine
...but how do you hack scripts in Vi with a funky cell-phone kepad? And maybe someone will implement TXT compatible shell expansion?
It's a cool idea whose time has come, but I think it'll be an emergency tool rather than a new way to work.
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i have used this putty port for a while, but i am now using the telnet/ssh client by mochasoft, commercial, but functioning way better than the basic putty port listed in the article.
http://www.mochasoft.dk/nokia.html#telnet800
Someone could also port NoMachine (GPL), it already runs on Zaurus and iPAQ Linux:
http://www.nomachine.com/documentation.php
It runs really nice on slow links.
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Screen Shot 1 - SSH Client
Screen Shot 2 - SSH Client
VNC Viewer
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Apparantly the P800 also runs apache, the screenshots are being served from there aswell...
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I am just about to order the T-Mobile Sidekick (a.k.a. the Danger Hiptop). It has an actual keyboard, and an ssh client is promised (a beta is available with the SDK, which is available through the developers program).
Would this app (which it seems is only for that Ericsson phone) be that much more a killer app if it were done in J2ME and be available on MANY different platforms? Or is that possible given the J2ME graphics library? Surely the SSH client would be doable.
I've been SSHing on my Samsung (PalmOS - with TGssh) for a couple of months now . . . it's a freaking godsend - no more macerena of cell-phone, palm, blackberry and laptop.
now if it just had an mp3 player . . .
ActiveViewer is the first VNC client for J2ME-enabled handsets. It works on pretty much anything, from Siemens handsets to Blackberry pagers and color-screen Nokia 7650/3650. Razvan
One month ago I was hiking in the mountains (on Corsica) and it was quite useful to be able to login on my server at home while staying in a mountain refuge at 3000m altitude. Every gram counts on such travels, and I would never be able to take a 80x25 screen with me.
Also what do you mean "not using standard protocol"? SSH is as standard as it gets when you want to have a secure login on a UNIX server.
Palm VNC client and TopGun SSH are a bit of a strain on the phone's CPU, but still usable -- even over a dialup connection. It comes in handy if I need to access my servers when I'm away from my desk.
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... on the Nokia 9210 (or 9290 for those in the US) for some time... both VNC and SSH ports have been available for (as far as I remember) over a year... ssh.com used to do a client too, but I can't see it on their site any more... I've found the ssh client very useful, e.g. it means I can set a task (e.g. a long compile) going, leave, then check up on it later from wherever I happen to be...
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I'v been running TopGun SSH for years on my 3Com Palm Pilot. Originally, I ran it over CDPD with a Minstrel, although entering shell commands via Grafiti was painful. With my Treo 300, I now have a "real" keyboard and unlimited data so I can use it without worrying about how many packets are sent back and forth.
-- http://www.swcp.com/~hudson/
It is bad enough driving with everyone and his ass talking on cell phones and not paying proper attention to the road. Now some geek will run my ass over while he is trying to hack my server.
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I have a Kyocera 7135, and had a 6035. Both can do ssh sessions with a palm ssh client. You can use the grafiti input to send commands, not as nice as a keyboard, but I can use that a lot faster than one of those small thumb keyboards. There's also a vnc client, works alright if you're on 1rxtt network, not so good with just standard dial up (or atleast not when you have a 2480x768 X session). Not the most beautiful view, but if you need it, it works.
i was doing this 5 years ago with a palm pilot, IR and an ericsson modem phone...very useful.
I have a Treo 270 using a GPRS network, allowing for near ISDN speeds for network connections. Like other users that have posted, i regularly use a combination of TopGun SSH and Mergic VPN for getting into my corporate network when away from a computer.
From my experience, due to limited screen real estate, it's really hard to do very complex actions via this combination. However, in a pinch,
you can access a mission critical box and perform a restart of a service. With praticalities aside though, it's super cool to have this type of power in the palm of your hand (no pun intended).
I've also used VNC for the Treo using the same VPN tunneling and it's very hard to use due to bandwith restrictions.
Gosh, you can't even go on vacation without your server calling you! What?! You want me to fix sendmail from Bora-Bora? I can see my cell phone skipping across the water now. :)
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This is a fantastic idea, but as the developers pointed out... it's a bit frustrating without the ability to CTRL + ESC.
So... the chat keyboard should work:
Chat Keyboard @ Sony Ericsson
The Sony Ericssons use the same interface as all prior Ericsson phones, and whilst they haven't updated the site accordingly, I do have my old accessories for my T29 running smoothly on my T610... namely my old data transfer cable (for syncing contacts with Outlook).
I believe that the chat keyboard above should work fine with the P800... thus solving the input method.
Does anyone have the keyboard? Can you confirm if the extra keys are on it? Maybe the developers can use key combinations (if the interfaces expose them) to emulate the CTRL and ESC keys.
... and is looking for a way to imput control charactors in the interface.
I think we need better ways to input the correct characters on our current interfaces first.
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Developers have access to other applications that are not installed on the phone by default (but soon will be available for anyone to download over the wire). Included is an SHH client which not only takes full advantage of the keyboard and color screen, but also has really smart key mappings for CTRL etc.. making emacs quite useable (meta is still a problem though).
Slickest thing to show off on that phone, works really well, definitely got some slack jaws from the sysadmin on that one.
This stuff being showed is just ridiculous in comparision, definite step backwards.
Ok, so right now its only for the developer builds, but it will be released by the end of the summer. I run the developer OS builds on my hiptop every day. The ssh client is AWSOME! It is even easy to use because of the qwerty keyboard. If some one has some space on a server I can send some screen shots.
for quite some time...
Wow, I should not post when knackered.