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War Game To Use Troop-Filmed DoD Footage
Thanks to Yahoo!/Hollywood Reporter for the news that a new videogame will incorporate exclusive raw video shot by U.S. troops stationed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Liberia, and elsewhere. The PC action title, called Kuma:War, launches next February (there are screenshots available via Blue's News), and intends to allow you to "play the news" with a CNN-style filmed introduction to each real-life themed game level - the article explains: "players could get a first-person perspective experience of what it was like to rescue Army Pvt. Jessica Lynch or participate in the raid that killed Uday and Qusay Hussein - staged authentically, right down to such details as the type of grenades that were used in the mission and the exact location of the snipers."
I think today's games are going a little overboard in the amount of video and the importance of it. Take for example Metal Gear Solid 2. You spend more time watching than playing. At first it was neat to have the whole 'interactive movie', but it does get slow after a while. I am all for a realistic war game, but the developers should make sure that the video is used solely for accent, not the whole thing. Of course, having the talking heads in between levels might be good, but it could turn out to suck. Film at 11.
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I hope not. Saving Jessica Lynch or killing the Husseins, being in the action is really nothing like what a video game should be, from what I hear. It's not the drama and pace that most of us look for in a game. Plus, capitalizing on these war stories sickens me just a little bit too. Hed.
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allow you to "play the news" with a CNN-style filmed introduction to each real-life themed game level
I hope not. There are plenty of fictional video games out there already. I'd like one like this to be somewhat based in reality.
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Some sort of forced feedback pain might make it realistic.. Maybe something similar to the video game Bond plays that could electricute. This does seem a little odd though, to take situations where REAL people died and make a profit off of them. Fictional deaths in games, no matter how realistic looking, are OK with me. But when you start acting out the real areas where people died seems to be an insult to the soldiers that died there.
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I presume the game is too politically correct to give us the chance to authentically shoot up carloads of women and children at checkpoints.
players could get a first-person perspective experience of what it was like to rescue Army Pvt. Jessica Lynch
So you're saying I could do everything including silencing key witnesses, faking injuries, inviting Fox News along for the ride, and paying off a military officer to take part in a massive madia fueled fabrication?
Jeez, forget Doom. Where do I sign up?
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What a PR stunt for the Army. Jessica Lynch's rescue has been thoroughly discredited by now. (The hospital tryed to return her first, instead the Army ignored them and decided that exploding walls and using flash bangs was the best way to get into the hospital, the alternative being to call them up and ask for her).
The saddest part is jessica's claim of not remembering anything about the ordeal. I'm sure she was ordered to simply say that. This is a shame, and an insult to the doctors who so cared for her during her stay.
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finally i can realistically clusterbomb people, or watch them run screaming (could we get real recordings of screams? that would be kewl) on fire!
i sure hope there is a 'kick the prisoner in the head' option or some such!
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Day of Defeat is cool, but I dunno if the WWII motif is gonna help them as much as, say, the Desert Combat BF1942 mod would...
Wow! So, we'll get to knock down doors and scream "Go, go, go!" while the hospital workers look at you like you're stupid.
Extra points if the blanks you're firing makes your ranger buddy in front of you jump!
And, maybe we have realistic muscle flexing in front of the cute Iraqi nurses?
Realistic AI like that'll add some time to the dev process..
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It makes perfect sense!
They claim not to have found Saddam and Osama because they're keeping the film secret to make a surprise ending for the video game!
"Want to know what really happened to Saddam and Osama? Buy the game and find out!"
[ I also hear there's going to be cheat codes that allow you to find the weapons of mass destruction on the final level.]
-Peter
Sure I'll buy the game... ... but only if I get to catch Geraldo drawing battle plans in front of a cameraman. (and only if I get to run after him with a couple of Bradley's after he's fired.. heh)
And how long before a mod so that you can play as Iraqi soldiers who participated in a raid in which there were U.S. casualties ? My point being, it is all "fun and games" until one takes a different perspective on the situation. Mod me down as flamebait or offtopic if you please.
Money MONEY! ... but from the article
Kinda makes me wonder...the Iraqi war that hasn't been justified yet (remember the justification was some WMD and now the experts say the trailers were for producing hydrogen) and here you have people cashing in on the tragedy again in the form of computer games. Sure it was great for CNN and MSNBC and other agencies - great business
A subscription component keeps the action up to date with events in the real world (news - Y! TV). The initial PC game, due out in February, will come with eight to 12 missions in a traditional retail package for about $40. After that, players can choose to download an additional mission every week for a monthly fee of about $10.
Does this sound ethical? Isn't this promoting war in a way?...also from the article
The first title will include missions based on actual happenings in Iraq, Afghanistan (news - web sites), Liberia (news - web sites) and Korea. The game's missions will allow for both single-player and multiplayer experiences, which will vary depending on the actual events that are being re-created in the realistic, virtual worlds.
Sure Sure you are re-enacting history but wtf - who needs to re-enact war really and these kinds of wars....? Ok Afghanistan was justified but I see Liberia above and Korea - is it North Korea - does this mean North K is gonna be "liberated"? Also when i say these wars have to be justified, seriously apart from the innocent civilians, don't the americans care about losing their soldiers? How sad would it to be lose your only son, to lose your husband...lose a father...Jeez mod me as troll or flamebait but making money off these kinda wars(Iraq) is in my opinion unethical besides being bullshit.
About a week before the next presidential elections.
All Troll + "offtopic" mods are meta moderated as "Unfair", because you abused the system.
One can only wonder if this is a game, or propaganda...
Hrmm, what am I talking about, it's the US..
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Why limit it to the war with iraq? I mean, dont we have some footage of school slayings/office slayings/ghetto shootings? The object of the game is to survive long enough, and keep enough bullets to kill yourself at the end. I think this would go over really well in IS depts (not to mention mailmen). Even Better: you can personalize the levels! man, gotta give it to the media, they hit on a golden idea here.
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I'm all about games. I really like first person soldier games.
But this is kind of twisted. Its just not right to be playing games based on the life and death situations that our military is facing this very moment. I'm not going to have fun taking down an Iraqi insurgent with my simulated M-16, when a very real soldier or Marine is doing the exact same thing on the other side of the world.
Now, with games set in the past (like, at least ten years ago) or games set in a hypothetical future (like the Rainbow 6 games)... I'll have an absolute blast. Mostly because I'm not too busy empathizing with the guys who've got their lives on the line in the exact same situations that I'm playing, at that exact same moment.
no thanks
Anybody else get outraged at the audacity of that pricing? I'm sorry, I will NOT pay $10 a month for a new fucking level. This isn't even a MMORPG. This would be the equivelant of asking people to pay $10/month for a new mod for halflife or bf1942.
And what if you signed on after a few missions had been released. Does the $10 entitle you to all the old missions? What if you don't want a certain months mission, do you still have to pay for it? Aside from the fact that charging a large fee for a new mission is insulting and will not work, I think what would stand a better chance is charging a VERY LOW fee, like $1-$2 per new mission. That way you could get the ones you want, and avoid the ones you don't want. But fact is, with every other FPS game out there (that will always be a step above this made-for-marketing crud) giving free updates and levels away fairly frequently, and extensive modding communities, this game won't stand a chance.
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Okay the Uday and Quasy shootout was 200+ American soldiers with armor vs 4 guys with Ak47s and pistols. I can hear people who are on the Iraqi side yelling "TEAMS!?!"
Stick with www.americasarmy.com.
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the govt. refuses to declassify large portions of the lynch rescue taking place. The hospital doctors had attempted to contact the U.S. BEFORE sending the ambulance. Lastly, if I was lynch, I'd be outraged at the amount of lying our government has done so far. Let's also not forget that lynch really didn't do that much. I'm not saying anything bad, but she is not a hero in any conventional sense. She didn't hold any bad guys off till her ammo was out as was said early on. And really didnt' do anything than be in the wrong place at the wrong time. The U.S. army has held her up as a model of courage, when all that really happened was that an unlucky G.I. got in a car crash, got taken as POW, and got busted out in a bizarre case of miscommunication a few weeks later. A hero is proactive, or has to undergo extreme situations. Lynch's situation was a fluke which she passed through essentially in shock. I'm not blaming Lynch at all, she did nothing, but the media is absolutely horrid when they call her a Hero as doing so robs the word of its true meaning.
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"first-person perspective experience of what it was like to rescue Army Pvt. Jessica Lynch"
So you get to run into a hospital filled with doctors and no enemy combatants. Scream random commands fire a few blanks into the air, and leave. Bonus points for really hamming it up when the cameraman is around.
"participate in the raid that killed Uday and Qusay Hussein - staged authentically, right down to such details as the type of grenades that were used in the mission and the exact location of the snipers."
So you get to fight a group of people barracaded in a house with a team of 500. Wow... This game sounds like it will be the easiest/boring game ever built if it is as authentic as they describe.
So, how many people who are upset about this game ever saw Titanic, Saving Private Ryan or Schindler's List? All those movies were seeking to profit from events in which many real people died. I bet you all saw all of them.
I personally have only seen the last one and only because it was shown in school and I would be tested on it.
Please keep your inconsistent poser activism speechs to yourself. You can surely get karma points other ways, eh boys?
The previously recorded video will make it look REALLY realistic when your troops find weapons of mass destruction!
Only if I get to see the footage of Odai and Qusai getting shot up........
If you want to "play the news" why don't you just get some balls and join the army or be a reporter. Pretending to be part of current events doesn't sound like a whole lot of fun to me, in fact I find that it would trivialize real problems that people face every day.
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"... staged authentically..."
Just like it was when the US army did it.
"... a new videogame will incorporate exclusive raw video shot by U.S. troops..."
I can see it now: "US invades Germany, Russia, Iran and France for video game sequel footage."
It's sad that the questionable origins of this game overshadows the fact that this is another attempt at episodic gaming. Episodic games are one of those holy grails for small-scale developers, by cutting down on up front costs, and ensuring that revenue lasts longer than a few weeks. In another sense, we've still been looking for something to make online gaming stick -- maybe providing new content on a regular basis is the way?
Seeing how this is a more "mainstream" title than previous attempts, I will be interested to see if this works out, or if it goes the way of Majestic instead.
I know you were joking, but I want my Karma, so I'm going to reiterate your post in a serious tone.
American ethics :
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Q> is it ethical ?
A> it is fun !
Q> what does the word "ethical mean" ?
A> that it is not fun ?
Q> do you think it is not nice to the people of iraq ?
A> but it is fun ! freedom of speech !
Q> do you think it is right to rape women and children when searching for criminals ?
A> It is fun ! and they're un-american.
after leaving the american alone for a while he restarts the game, and calls his president if he would please start another war because he's almost finished the level in north korea
Am I generalizing ? Yes.
Is the army created by my government off raping and stealing ? No.
You invade it
You occupy it (paying special attention to the ministry of oil ofcourse, which was not, I repeat not, the reason for invading it)
You rape and steal "while trying to find fugitives"
You make threats (with firearms) against local businesses trying to compete with american companies
You place a personal friend of your president in charge of the country (obviously not a single iraqi person was suitable for the job)
Some people do see logic in terrorism
While I don't support Geraldo, he was not fired like Peter Arnett. Geraldo was temporarily kicked out of the action, but returned shortly after the military determined nobody could possibly make any sense out of what he wrote in the sand.
what, so you can play in a movie and shoot at children? uhm... okay...
Oh, I guess that's what teh army recruiters are counting on.....
Hmmm
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