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FreeBSD 4.9 Code Freeze
lewiz writes "FreeBSD Release Engineering have announced that the code freeze in preparation for 4.9-RELEASE (scheduled for 29th September) will begin on 25th August. Also 4.9-RC is tentatively scheduled for 12th September. A full list of dates can be found on the Release Process page."
The SCO is offering licences for the use of 0 and 1 in free bsd, at the low price of $699 per bit, with an increase to $1399 after October 15th.
*crickets chirp*
Most of us FreeBSD fans will be far more excited when FreeBSD 5.x becomes stable, and has things like KSE enabled by default. 4.x is a aging branch with only limited whiz-bang appeal.
Not nearly dying!
perl -e '$_="\007/4`\cp%2,".chr(127);s/./"\"\\c$&\""/gees
4.9 Release notes showing what is going in/being fixed
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Thanks to you, never. I run 5.1 and it's faster and sweeter than 4.x ever was. Fuck 4.x and long live GEOM!
Only if by Newbie you mean 'has only been using FreeBSD for about 5 years...'
Sorry, but on my BSD machine (a modest P3-450) 5.x kills 4.x in speed, features, and usability.
Did I claim that 5.x is more stable? In any event, I have never had FreeBSD crash. 4.x or 5.x. In terms of feature sets, though, 5.x kills 4.x with ease. I for one look towards the future instead of wollowing in the past.
I have used 4.x happily for years. If you misintrepret me that's hardly my problem. At the same time, 5.1 is beautiful, stable (if not STABLE) and UFS2+S absolutely blows away UFS or UFS+S.
My point is that, as much as Dragonfly BSD sounds fun, and I'm sure that it'll actually run someday, I'll use official FreeBSD. At least that way I'll have a working ports. And, a bugs forum that actually exists. And, a system that runs now.
Why even use FBSD 4.x if you have no need for new features? 4.4 BSD Lite is just fine!
Even if you don't think you need the increased feature set of 5.x, you could probably find a use for it. Who doesn't like a faster filesystem? I am not attacking you as an individual, but just curious why you might eschew a better mousetrap just because yours catches mice already?
How many times I have I told you, Don't respond to idiot BSD trolls.
Though you are probably right.
I was wondering, can any of the people who seem to be badmouthing FreeBSD all the time code? If so, have you contributed at least a line of code to making your much beloved Linux better? If so... Wait a minute, I'm talking to myself now.
Seriously though, if you are not contributing in any way, but still think that just being a fan makes you superior to other teams and their fans, you should think about this: the game is not about you, you're just observers and if your team should cease to exist, you wouldn't know what to do with a football to save your life. So put your scarf on, cheer like a good sport, but leave the criticism to those who actually play the game.
My main interest in FreeBSD is rock hard stability.
There is nothing worse than your desktop crashing, it's horrible. This is why Linux is an unacceptable choice to me in terms of a *nix desktop. Even crashing at the end of a 13 day uptime is unacceptable because it points at flaws in the system that can manifest themself at a time of their choosing; I don't like that. Well, there are other reasons I choose FreeBSD over Linux, but those aren't important. My main point is that, I want a reliable desktop OS, and I'm going to trust the FreeBSD team on this. When they say 5.x is stable, then it's stable, and I'll use it. I'm actually waiting on it pretty hard too, I love DevFS, faster filesystem is great, etc, etc, but none of it is worth sacrificing stability for me. I mean, it'll all be there for me when 5.2 (which is the stable release, or close to it, no?) is out, and I'm looking forward to that. No reason to rush things when, like I said, there is nothing in 5.x that I NEED.
-If God wanted people to be better than me, he would have made them that way.
Only fags use 5.1.
Now there is something that Linux can't claim. An operating system *SO* easy to use, that cigarettes can use it.
If a mindless cig can use FreeBSD 5.1, is Joe SixPack far behind?
Set your minimum score setting to 1. End of problem. Anyone who can't be arsed to log in and can't write anything interesting enough to get a moderation point from someone is no loss.
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great now I am responding to a troll,
so I will answer
1. It is dying
-Wrong
2. It has no GUI
-Wrong
3. It is fragmented
-This is a good thing
4. It is associated with SCO
5. It has no games
-Wrong
6. It is run only by geeks
-Um no comment
7. It is unusable by Grandmas
-nor is linux
8. It has fewer than 500 users
-Wrong
9. You can not install it on a pentium
-Nope
10. You cannot apt-get it
-Correct, use have to make; make install
I read somewhere they will continue untill 4.12:
4.9, 4.10, 4.11 and 4.12 = VERY STABLE
The 5.X branch should become 'just' STABLE by then.
more like what you don't really know..
iF yOu WAnT to C YOUr iP agaIn gAThEr tWO MilLIon dOLLArS IN Non - cONsEcuTivE TweNtY's AnD AWaiT FuRThER iNstrUctIoN
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of BSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
so where do they come up with these "numbers"
not everyone who uses *BSD posts to usenet either..
iF yOu WAnT to C YOUr iP agaIn gAThEr tWO MilLIon dOLLArS IN Non - cONsEcuTivE TweNtY's AnD AWaiT FuRThER iNstrUctIoN
That's interesting. A recent Netcraft survey showed that there were thousands of FreeBSD IPs. Over 40000 alone at Yahoo. Extrapolated, every single person who even visits Yahoo is a FreeBSD user...
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
I'm interested in trying out FreeBSD or any of the other BSD operating systems. My one main concern is backups. There are a whole slew of backup solutions for Linux, mainly LVM and filesystem snapshots comes to mind. LVM also allows you take incremental snapshots which is a big plus for me. I heard in #freebsd on irc.freenode.net that FreeBSD 5 has filesystem snapshots but no incremental =(
And another thing. Are there any plans in the future of the FreeBSD project where binary updates will be officially supported instead of doing make world whenever security patches need to be applied? I've heard that the argument used against any binary updates is security and how trojans could be slipped in. Couldn't this be avoided if each binary update tarball was signed using the FreeBSD release engineer's gpg key?
Simple us poor suckers that keep a zero threshold need some temporary protection against the idiots that are doing a number on the bsd posts. It is getting to be a pain in the ass that the good people who contribute to good old bsd have to put up with more than a fair share of bullshit. If you do not agree with that then use hot mail and suffer the consequences when MS tries to migrate the server to 2003 again. Freebsd, and other bsd varients and the community that write for it are GOD DAMN important to OSS, linux and the future of internet communication. OSX for Apple would not exist without it and Microsoft would have squat left to reverse engineer, or clone. Just think MS would then have to be innovative, a f'in impossibility!
OH THE SHAME I fell off the wagon and use sigs again!
I'm pretty sure that it has been decided that 4.10 will be the end of the road. Also, as the version minor increases, the difference between it an the previous version decreases. That is, by the time we had a 4.11/4.12, the unified diff would probably be only a hundred lines long...
Saying "good old BSD" was a very big mistake.
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Ok, since I'm something of a neophyte, I'm going to show my ignorance and ask, what are the big differences between *BSD and linux. I know they're related. I've been under the impression that they share a relatively wide variety of software. With BSD being thought of as more stable, and linux a little more flashy with some of the software, like wine x, available for it.
Please disabuse me.
--Jimmy has fancy plans; and pants to match.
PAE-physical address extensions, ported over from 5-CURRENT. I wonder if they're going to put out a version 4.10, because PAE doesn't yet work on all the drivers in current much less all that many drivers in 4-STABLE.
It was my understanding that UFS2 only brought about features which enabled much larger file systems. Can you please link to information regarding the performance of UFS2 versus UFS?
scott
Please find a new and original template, as the one you have been using is getting a bit tired.
The over use of this template may have made this variable troll rather funny some time ago (circa 1998-99), but it has become so overused that it no longer has the strength of parody that once made it seem humorous, and it has been ages since anyone has been taken in by the "Holy War" troll (except in the manner that I am now, but I don't believe that a criticism of your trolling style can legitimately be considered a response to the troll).
Unless you've discovered a new plateau for the Trolling artform that I am too simple to understand, this troll has fallen to a great low in terms of respectability, and one who habitually uses this should consider refreshing thier knowledge of trolling art history beginning with the great cross cultural classic known as "Pull My Finger".
Read, L
I'm not sure what you mean, please explain yourself further.
Read, L
FreeBSD Frozen: Does that mean it is finally dead ;-)
Oh well, looking forward to the 5.2 release, however, it is good to see that 4.x series are continuing to be developed as the temptation by some uname groups to focus more on the sexy/cool version rather than the boring maintainance work that is required.
"The difference between pornography and erotica is the lighting" - Woody Allen
Searched the web for linux is dying.
Results 1 - 10 of about 126,000. Search took 0.19 seconds.
So it looks as if Linux is dying about 10 times as much. Now let's look at this one:
Searched the web for windows is dying.
Results 1 - 10 of about 377,000. Search took 0.24 seconds.
Sorry BSD, but Linux and Windows are both dying a lot more than you.
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It still happens because its still goddamn funny.. and people still respond. Cheap entertainment: toss back a few pints and start reading BSD threads - you will laugh yourself out of your chair from the sheer silliness.
Now I'm off to search the newsgroups for a good flame fest to read.
It's not interesting how many "users". What's interesting is the number of installed boxes. FreeBSD, in particular, is likely to be used in server markets where hundreds of machines might be managed by one person. Compare and contrast with desktop markets, where some Linux distros go and Windows is definately king, and you find more of a 1-3 computers per person ratio.
Of course, no one really knows any of the above numbers with any reliability, so we should all just make up new ones anyway!