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Japanese Robot on Diplomatic Tour

baquiano writes "Inaugurating 21st century diplomacy, Japan's Pime Minister Junichiro Koizumi is visiting Prague this week, accompanied by Honda's experimental humanoid robot, Asimo. According to this story, Asimo even attended the official dinner. Apparently, the Czech Prime Minister Spidla has often been criticized because he's too 'stiff' and 'robot-like.'" Uncomfortable moments aside, it's a fitting tribute, for as stated in the story, the Czech writer Karel Capek was the first to use the term robot.

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  1. It's an ASP Page, most likely the server... by Suhas · · Score: 2, Informative

    ..WILL be /.ed

    Czech Republic: Humanoid Robot Livens Up Japanese Premier's Delegation
    By Kathleen Knox

    Robots that walk and talk like humans have come a long way in the last few years. Now a humanoid robot has even been included in an official delegation accompanying Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi to Prague.

    Prague, 22 August 2003 (RFE/RL) -- With his white "suit" and standing at just over a meter tall, Asimo the humanoid robot resembles a diminutive astronaut.

    "I am Asimo," he says. "I've come to the Czech Republic, the country where the word robot was invented, with Prime Minister [Junichiro] Koizumi."

    Asimo -- or Advanced Step in Innovative Mobility -- can walk on two legs and climb stairs. He can recognize voices and follow simple instructions.

    That makes him one of the world's most advanced human-like robots.

    And he can also dance, as he showed a crowd of spectators in Prague's national museum today.

    As Asimo noted, it was a Czech writer -- Karel Capek -- who first used the word "robot" in his 1920 play, "Rossum's Universal Robots."

    That's why Asimo was brought along on Japanese Prime Minister Koizumi's visit to Prague this week.

    He even attended the official dinner last night and toasted the Czech prime minister, Vladimir Spidla -- himself a bit stiff and robot-like, according to critics.

    "Good evening, Prime Minister Spidla," Asimo said. "Pleased to meet you. I am a robot, a goodwill ambassador."

    A robot delegate clearly has its advantages. He won't embarrass the host with off-color remarks, or get too tipsy on champagne.

    But humanoid robots still have only limited uses, like for entertainment or publicity stunts.

    Other robot technology, however, has made some exciting advances -- robot arms already help out in brain surgery. British scientists have developed a snake-like robot spy that can "evolve" and adapt to injury. A robot "suit" is in the works -- one that will help disabled or old people walk, climb stairs, or sit without a chair.

    But it will be a while before humanoid robots are advanced enough to even do household chores, says German robot expert Helge Ritter.

    "It may seem very difficult and sophisticated to assist in brain surgery, but there the task is carefully cut out and mainly formed in a way that it is largely positioning and high-precision application for very specialized tools. In a household, the problem is basically that there is no high precision around, you don't have any databases about where your objects are, the room can be not cleaned up, there will be objects around, pets and children, you will have deformable objects such as carpets, cushions. And to deal with such a variable environment poses a lot of challenges to robots."

    It's almost comforting to see how hard robots find actions most of us take for granted -- like walking and climbing, or grasping objects with a hand.

    So why make robots like humans anyway? Ritter says there are several reasons.

    One is so they can fit into a world already made according to human needs. It's also easier for humans to figure out how a robot with hands and legs can perform a task than one with wheels.

    And then, of course, there's the emotional side. Once robots have sufficiently advanced cognitive skills, a human-like form will greatly smooth communication.

    "We use head movements, eye movements, body movements in order to run a dialogue. If someone looks at me I see that now he attends to my words, or I recognize that now it's my turn to step in and say something. And all these things can work in an effortless way only if we also endow our machines with a similar repertoire of reactions -- if we give them heads, or at least if we depict heads on a computer screen that can look at us and give us some feedback if the robot attends to me or a different speaker."

    So, while the laughter and applause show what the humans thought of Asimo, unfortunately he isn't able to tell us how he enjoyed his visit to Prague -- not yet, anyway.

    1. Re:It's an ASP Page, most likely the server... by tesmako · · Score: 2, Informative

      Come *on*. It will be slashdotted because it is an ASP page? That is just plain stupid.

    2. Re:It's an ASP Page, most likely the server... by brokencomputer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I find it comical that a post like this will be modded to informitive. The author just states something totally stupid and posts the text of the article.

    3. Re:It's an ASP Page, most likely the server... by macdaddy357 · · Score: 1

      So, did anyone at this event say, "Domo Arigato, Mr. Roboto"?

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  2. "humanoid"? by ergonal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What defines a "humanoid robot"? How much do you have to mimick a human to receive this classification?

    1. Re:"humanoid"? by ergonal · · Score: 1

      Oops, mimic even.

    2. Re:"humanoid"? by Lacota · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think that by humanoid they mean the shape, two legs, two arms a head and body. They've used this term before in Star Trek and such. "I'm detecting three humanoids, two human, one klingon" etc.

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    3. Re:"humanoid"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I guess, one head, two arms and legs, bipedal.

    4. Re:"humanoid"? by ergonal · · Score: 1

      Ah, thanks for the clarification.

    5. Re:"humanoid"? by ximor_iksivich · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Its just enough to multiply faster than rabbits and destroy your environment..Its easy beeing humanid.. Guess robots don't count huh?

    6. Re:"humanoid"? by uncoveror · · Score: 1

      What defines a "humanoid robot"? Maybe we should ask William Smythe. If anyone can talk about that at length, he can.

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    7. Re:"humanoid"? by getkashyap · · Score: 1

      wonder if asimo sneezes sobig particles into the air :) heh heh

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    8. Re:"humanoid"? by kfg · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'd hazzard a guess that that's an issue dealt with by marketing.

      KFG

    9. Re:"humanoid"? by Epistax · · Score: 1

      I'd call any bipedal which looks like a human, humanoid, no matter what its function is. A coffee maker can certainly be humanoid-- I really think it's just the chassis.

      And if it's really function you care about, what about dead people? They don't really function-- but they're still humanoid.

      This raises an interesting question: If a person is born with no arms or legs, are they humanoid? I'd go with not exactly. That is, to me, the internals aren't a part of being humanoid.

    10. Re:"humanoid"? by caranha · · Score: 1

      Yeah, Thats basically it. Besides, the 2 arms/2 legs/body head configuration should have about the same proportions as a real human (tm).

      The basic idea, as the article pointed out, is that most tools we have today are made with the humanoid design in mind. So general purpose robots should be able to use those tools.

      Or so my advisor wants me to believe :-)

      Claus

    11. Re:"humanoid"? by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "What defines a "humanoid robot"? How much do you have to mimick a human to receive this classification? "

      Whatever it was, it was recently altered so that Al Gore could run for president.

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  3. I Know what .... by getkashyap · · Score: 1

    Theyre slowly going to use robots for offial visits ... atleast theyll follow "protocols" the right way .... :)

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    1. Re:I Know what .... by istartedi · · Score: 1

      Grrrr... Just when I thought I found a job that couldn't be H1-B'd, automated, or downsized. Guess I'll just have to steal stuff.

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  4. Where's the C&C warning?!? by strredwolf · · Score: 1

    The Czech and Japanese deligation must of gotten a laugh out of it. Any photos with the Prime Minister and Asimo?

    Excuse me while I take care of these catclaws and replace a keyboard.

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  5. EMP it...NOW! by Meffan · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Good evening, Prime Minister Spidla," Asimo said. "Pleased to meet you. I am a robot, a goodwill ambassador."

    A robot delegate clearly has its advantages. He won't embarrass the host with off-color remarks, or get too tipsy on champagne.


    Sadly the robot ambassador was then heard to say "Hand over your flesh, we demand it" before exploding the nuclear bomb in his head. Damn multi-LED faced monsters.

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    1. Re:EMP it...NOW! by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      "Damn multi-LED faced monsters."

      By your command.

    2. Re:EMP it...NOW! by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "Sadly the robot ambassador was then heard to say "Hand over your flesh, we demand it" before exploding the nuclear bomb in his head. Damn multi-LED faced monsters."

      Moments before, somebody had stuck a refrigerator magnet to its head and it started singing folk songs.

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  6. Japan's government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Japan's Pime Minister Junichiro Koizumi"

    I guess he's past his prime...?

    1. Re:Japan's government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Likewise, you're past your prime in trolling.

  7. Obvious by ChopSocky · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm sure this will get modded down, but isn't this an obvious progression? Wouldn't governments jump all over this in order to prevent assassinations or other terror attempts on delegations? Even if the robots weren't completely autonomous, "messenger bots" would allow, in my opinion, high-level people to travel to unsecured locations safely. Just my .02.

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    1. Re:Obvious by The+Ape+With+No+Name · · Score: 1

      Yes, the wetware version has been Donald Rumsfeld! It is a natural progression!

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    2. Re:Obvious by worst_name_ever · · Score: 5, Funny
      Even if the robots weren't completely autonomous, "messenger bots" would allow, in my opinion, high-level people to travel to unsecured locations safely.

      Or, to take your fanciful idea to an even more outlandish extreme, perhaps some kind of device for remote communication could be created, which would allow a person in one place to hold a conversation with another person in a far-off land, without actually dispatching a messenger or postal-letter. By harnessing the power of the electron-current, which as I'm sure you know is many dozens of times swifter than the fastest steam-ship, such tele-phonic conversations could be made possible. And, though it may seem to you, the gentle reader, to be the most outlandish type of science-fiction, perhaps this new tele-phonic science could be used by the captains of industry to contact the everyday citizen in their own homes at a convenient hour, such as at meal-time.

      Ah, truly, the wonders of our age shall know no bounds!

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    3. Re:Obvious by way2trivial · · Score: 1

      POP QUIZ- what costs more, replacing a diplomat or a humanoid asimo like robot..

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    4. Re:Obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you should write copy. seriously, this is good enough to publish. perhaps you stole?

      nope, googled. good job!

    5. Re:Obvious by wizard992 · · Score: 1

      I am fairly certain it was borrowed from The Onion. I could be wrong of course, but the style just felt so familiar.

    6. Re:Obvious by blowhole · · Score: 1

      No, but he is recycling his jokes.

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    7. Re:Obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you added a few mentions of the Republic then that would have sounded just like the editor for the onion.

    8. Re:Obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, if it ain't broke...

  8. Isaac Asimov by Dr.+Jest · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The robot's name is also an obvious tribute to Isaac Asimov, the science fiction writer who gave us the Three Laws of Robotics. I'd think the article would have mentioned that, but I guess the reporter is sadly SF illiterate.

    1. Re:Isaac Asimov by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
      The Three Laws of Robotics are:

      1. A robot may not injure a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
      2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
      3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

      From Handbook of Robotics, 56th Edition, 2058 A.D., as quoted in I, Robot. In Robots and Empire (ch. 63), the "Zeroth Law" is extrapolated, and the other Three Laws modified accordingly:

      A robot may not injure humanity or, through inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.

      Unlike the Three Laws, however, the Zeroth Law is not a fundamental part of positronic robotic engineering, is not part of all positronic robots, and, in fact, requires a very sophisticated robot to even accept it.

      Asimov claimed that the Three Laws were originated by John W. Campbell in a conversation they had on December 23, 1940. Campbell in turn maintained that he picked them out of Asimov's stories and discussions, and that his role was merely to state them explicitly.

      The Three Laws did not appear in Asimov's first two robot stories, "Robbie" and "Reason", but the First Law was stated in Asimov's third robot story "Liar!", which also featured the first appearance of robopsychologist Susan Calvin. (When "Robbie" and "Reason" were included in I, Robot, they were updated to mention the existence of the first law and first two laws, respectively.) Yet there was a hint of the three laws in "Robbie", in which Robbie's owner states that "He can't help being faithful, loving, and kind. He's a machine - made so." The first story to explicitly state the Three Laws was "Runaround", which appeared in the March 1942 issue of Astounding Science Fiction.

      Information borrowed liberally from the Isaac Asimov FAQ.

    2. Re:Isaac Asimov by MotherInferior · · Score: 1

      Asimov is not mentioned from the ASIMO website. ASIMO stands for "Advanced Step in Innovative MObility." I would hope that it is an in-house tribute, but there is no public mention of it. For legal reasons, I'm sure...

    3. Re:Isaac Asimov by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      Legal Reasons? I thought a person's name was pretty much exempt from protections. (Spike TV stupidity aside)

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    4. Re:Isaac Asimov by Tuqui · · Score: 1

      In Japanese Asi(Ashi) means foot or feet. And is one of the reason of the name I think. But I agree that should be related to Asimov too.

  9. Just like the Japanese by grug0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Soon they'll be churning out small, cheap, efficient politicians that will take the jobs of American politicians. Washington will end up like Detroit.

    1. Re:Just like the Japanese by archen · · Score: 1

      cheap, efficient politicians

      isn't that an oxymoron?

    2. Re:Just like the Japanese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, a true oxymoron would be "honest politician", because I'm sure there's some cheap politicians out there that are efficient at corruption, for instance.

    3. Re:Just like the Japanese by Joey7F · · Score: 1

      Isn't that a forced joke?

      --Joey

    4. Re:Just like the Japanese by AntiOrganic · · Score: 0

      We could even nickname him "ReiserFS." I hear that's good at corruption.

    5. Re:Just like the Japanese by Jeremiah+Blatz · · Score: 1

      We can but hope...

    6. Re:Just like the Japanese by Alien+Being · · Score: 1

      I'll take that with a grain of rice.

      [DUCKS]

    7. Re:Just like the Japanese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Washington will end up like Detroit

      Have you been to Washington? Have you been to Detroit? There's not that much difference now!

    8. Re:Just like the Japanese by AkaXakA · · Score: 1

      Who said that was a bad thing?

  10. Nice but..... by brdweb · · Score: 1

    Remember back in the early 80's you had a big robot craze with that one even showing up in one of the rocky movies as a butler? This is a nice technology preview, but people keep expecting robots to suddently be cost-effective for your average family and make life so easy for them. It's just not going to happen anytime soon. Let's start a poll on how long it will take for something like that to happen! 10 years? 20? 30?

    1. Re:Nice but..... by AntiOrganic · · Score: 1

      Shit, that would be scary.

      With all of our manufacturing being outsourced to cheap Asian and South American countries with less stringent labor policies, America and many other countries are essentially left as solely service-oriented. If many of these services can be performed by autonomous robots, what's left? I think we'll see some sort of "autonomous robot tax" that will make these things cost ludicrous amounts of money.

      I don't think Johnny Five will be around too soon.

    2. Re:Nice but..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      50 years maybe. The 'cost-effective' part is key. When will a robot be cheaper than a human service worker? At 5 bucks an hour for the humans, robots have a ways to go.

    3. Re:Nice but..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haa, I'm pretty sure that in about 10 years, average families will have simple cleaner robots.

      But then again..

      IN SOVIET RUSSIA, average robots have cleaner families.

  11. Is that you Marvin? by mikeophile · · Score: 3, Funny
    I have a brain the size of a planet and all you want me to do is recognize voices, follow simple instructions, and do the occasional dance.

    Life. Don't talk to me about life.

  12. Wow by teko_teko · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just saw the videos of the robot climbing the stairs and walking backwards. It's awesome, didn't think something like this can be accomplished in the current time.

    When will they start making C3PO?

    1. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      When will they start making C3PO?

      Good God, hopefully never.

    2. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      C3P0? You like gay robots huh?

    3. Re:Wow by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      When will they start making C3PO?

      As soon as the demand for gay-bots reaches critical mass.

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    4. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes and it will be gay too.

    5. Re:Wow by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      "robot climbing the stairs and walking backwards."

      If only the folks at OCP had paid more attention to this while developing the ED-209...

    6. Re:Wow by AchmedHabib · · Score: 1

      I remember seeing something about it on Discovery. I think one of the problem they had with making robots keeping their balance was that they were trying to keep them in balance all the time. Then they realised that the in order to walk better and more human like that trick was that you should not be in perfect balance while walking. So instead you need the robot to shift their balance right so that they would get out of balance in the direction they were walking.

    7. Re:Wow by barryfandango · · Score: 1

      I've watched this damned robot climb stairs ever since they built it. Oooh. Ahhh. Up the stairs. Down the stairs. In slow motion, while fantasy techno music plays, as if this robot walking up the stairs is going to solve world hunger.

      A similar bit of footage on my website, featuring me climbing up and down stairs to the theme song from "Beyond 2000," has been surprisingly unpopular. Sure, if a damned robot does it it's special. Will we cheer and marvel when they take all our jobs?

      More information: http://unite-and-resist.cloudmakers.org/whois.html

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    8. Re:Wow by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      As soon as a gaydar jammer is built.

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    9. Re:Wow by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "I've watched this damned robot climb stairs ever since they built it. Oooh. Ahhh. Up the stairs. Down the stairs. In slow motion, while fantasy techno music plays, as if this robot walking up the stairs is going to solve world hunger."

      I don't seem to recall ending hunger as the mission of this robot. While you're thinking of reasons not to like this thing, I've been a little more productive. In a few years, these things will be visiting disaster sites looking for survivors. They've already got robots doing that today, however a sure-footed humanoid design would be far more maneuverable. It also occurs to me that care for the disadvantaged (paralysis? multiplesclerosis? amptuee?) could be rendered.

      "Sure, if a damned robot does it it's special. Will we cheer and marvel when they take all our jobs?"

      Funny. Despite all the automation performed in the last century, we're still employed. The fact of the matter is that human judgement is the core of just about any job out there.

      Robots are coming. You can hold a gun and fight, or you can use your brain and cook up a useful solution.

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    10. Re:Wow by macdaddy357 · · Score: 1

      To hell with C3PO. I want Cherry 2000!

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  13. We must stop them now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    But humanoid robots still have only limited uses, like for entertainment or publicity stunts.

    Current technology may limit them to diplomatic missions and Al Gore stand-ins, but they won't sit still for long. Soon these abominations may even be able to pull off kids parties! And let me tell you, once they learn secret of making balloon poodles, overlord status will soon follow.

    1. Re:We must stop them now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I, for one, welcome our .... fuck it.

    2. Re:We must stop them now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      damn, you beat me to it.

  14. Washington DC, 2003-11-14 by Alien+Being · · Score: 2, Funny

    Japanese PM Koizumi introduced Asimo to the president of the US. Upon hearing the word "Bush-san" the robot promptly puked its guts out all over the world's most powerful man.

    1. Re:Washington DC, 2003-11-14 by mikeophile · · Score: 1

      Dick Cheney?

    2. Re:Washington DC, 2003-11-14 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Karl Rove?

    3. Re:Washington DC, 2003-11-14 by Alien+Being · · Score: 1

      "Dick Cheney?"

      No, Bush. Cheney had a massive coronary on the spot.

    4. Re:Washington DC, 2003-11-14 by Alien+Being · · Score: 1

      Are you saying that Bush is a robot?

    5. Re:Washington DC, 2003-11-14 by mikeophile · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh heavens no. I'd never insult robots in such a vile manner.

  15. Here are the Three Laws of Robotics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    For those not in the know:

    A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

    A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders conflict with the first law.

    A robot must wear a pink felt hat and pimp gay men on the street so long as it doesn't conflict with the 1st or 2nd laws.

    1. Re:Here are the Three Laws of Robotics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think those laws are from Asimov's less popular stories "I, Queer" and "Bisextennial Man". These are not so well known predecessors to the unlegendary "Boundation" series, which told of the future history of the East Village.

      Later Asimov dropped sexuality completely from every aspect of his writing. Thus producing the famously popular Robot books.

    2. Re:Here are the Three Laws of Robotics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually he didn't drop alternative sexual science fiction. I wish I could remember the name, but he wrote a short story I believe that anthropomorphized an particular isotope (that does not exist, but one of Asimov's friends dared him to write about it).

      It was pretty bizarre, but throughout the story this young isotope masturbated constantly until she learned what she was doing, and how it could save her kind, leading to a pretty detailed threesome scene in the end.

      No I'm serious, this story really exists (unlike those of the parent post).

    3. Re:Here are the Three Laws of Robotics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The Gods Themselves"

  16. New Tricked Out Asimo by The-Bus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Give the fact that the robot is made by Honda I can't wait until Asimo Si comes out -- tricked out with yellow stickers, purple neon lights inside his head, and a kickin system to play the latest Eminem collaboration with 50 Cent.

    Whoopee.

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  17. He spoke Czech by jarda · · Score: 1

    It was nice to see Japanese robot actually speak in Czech. He even apperared at the begining of the main TV news, when he said his greeting to population and not just the ruling few.

    I was hoping to get to the show in national museum, but unfortunatelly, it was reserved only to journalists.

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    1. Re:He spoke Czech by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 1

      It's a recording dude. His handler pushed the button when it was time for him to say his little speech. He can 'speak' in any language he wants. You make it sound like the robot thought it would be a nice gesture if he spoke in Czech instead of his native Japanese.

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    2. Re:He spoke Czech by Rolo+Tomasi · · Score: 1

      In fact, from what I've heard, Asimo isn't autonomous at all. Every single motion is preprogrammed, so e.g. he can climb stairs, but only a specific set of stairs that it's been programmed for, all it can do is play back preprogrammed movements. So maybe it's a nice feat of electrical/mechanical engineering, but it actually has nothing to do with what makes a 'real' robot, i.e. acting autonomously, adapting to its environment or any other AI like stuff.

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    3. Re:He spoke Czech by cryms0n · · Score: 1

      This is still a big step.

      We have a platform for performing the mechanical actions, all we need to do is replace the black box of his programming with some artificial intelligence.

      Trivial, really.

  18. George Lucas is goan' sue somebody! by JayBlalock · · Score: 1

    I read this, and the first thing I thought was, "Hello. I am C-3PO, human-cyborg relations, and I am I at your service."

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  19. I wonder what drives the Japanese? by wordisms · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is very interesting considering this recent article on Japan's new 30-year robot plan.

    I've always wondered why the Japanese are so driven towards technology, and especially robots, so much more that most western cultures. Westerners tend to buy more traditional technological products, and those products we buy tend to have a slow progression in form and function.

    This just doesn't seem to be the case in Japan, and I wish I knew why. Unfortunantely I haven't yet been able to visit Japan or become more accustomed with their culture.

    Would any /.'ers like to answer this one?

    1. Re:I wonder what drives the Japanese? by danila · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I think I can. From what I've learned during my stay in Japan, it seems that the Japanese attraction to technology is actually pretty normal thing. This leads me to believe that it's Americans and Europeans that are an "abomination" in this regard. Westerners do not think about the future enough and while there might be hundreds of robotics research programs in the US universities, the general public doesn't have a clue. Not so in Japan. And also, while in the US sci-fi is a prerogative of a relatively well educated minority, in Japan it's much more widespread (I am not talking here about the number of readers or book circulation numbers, but about the prevalence of certain sci-fi ideas in the national menthality).

      A similar example is the issue of GM-food. The question is not why Americans are so advanced that they eat it, the real question is why Europeans are so backwards and stupid that they don't.

      Being scared of progress is not a normal thing today, in the XXI century. Embracing it is normal and in general beneficial for the societies that do it.

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    2. Re:I wonder what drives the Japanese? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe it to be a region-wide genetic predisposion. (It's in our blood)

    3. Re:I wonder what drives the Japanese? by caranha · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Who knows? I'm in a exchange program there right now, and for as much as I was interested in Japan before coming here, I find that the more I learn about its culture, the less I understand about it. :-) (btw, I'm not american either)

      But talking to a friend of mine in the same program, one good trait of these folk seems to be that they're never afraid to try new things, no matter how strange they are, and I'm not talking only about technology. (embracing them after trying is a whole new matter though)

      Anyway, as an interesting sidenote, robotics in eastern asia goes a long way back in time, in a way. In ancient China (~ third century) a great general of the time employed contraceptions in the shape of cows to transport supplies. Maybe those robot making folks are descendants of Zhuge Liang? ;-) (btw are there "robots" more ancient than those anywhere?)

      Claus

    4. Re:I wonder what drives the Japanese? by zzztkf · · Score: 1
      As for GM-food, Japanese are rejecteing too. NO GM-food is available in my reach. In that sense we, Japanese , are so backwards as European. I'm Japanese, living in Tokyo.

      It seems that Gene Modification has been scaring people. I think it's unreasonable. but once people believe something, enormous inertia is generated. It's hardly changable without a remarkable event.

      American monopolized technologies(So far it's all American, isn't it?) are more likely to be hated than others. It's sad.

    5. Re:I wonder what drives the Japanese? by emerald_glitter · · Score: 1

      I'm don't want to pick at you, but I laughed until I cried at the picture of this:

      contraceptions in the shape of cows

      Damn those Chinese are ingenious.

    6. Re:I wonder what drives the Japanese? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Japanese like to visit other countries with little nice robots in their package.

      Americans like to visit other countries with little nice threats in their package.

    7. Re:I wonder what drives the Japanese? by kikai+suki · · Score: 1
      One (Japanese) word... _shoushika_ (too bad Slashdot can't display kanji...) It means "low birth rate." Bots can evendually do a lot of the work people will have done. They can also help wage the the war of retribution against the u.s...


      What?... You didn't know about the war?

  20. so... by DrStrangeLoop · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...did the czechs [for one] welcome our new experimental humanoid masters?

  21. Photo of the Czech Prime Minister and Asimo by MrHm · · Score: 1

    http://1.im.cz/n/photo/01/35/28xfert-topsirka.jpg

    Here is the whole article:

    http://www.novinky.cz/01/37/91.html

  22. Technological Progress. by AmoebafromSweden · · Score: 1

    We wont fall for that one!

    Its a secret killer robot , which the Japanese prime minister uses as a bodyguard.

  23. A robot goodwill ambassador? by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Does this mean that protocol droids (a la C-3PO) are now a reality?

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    1. Re:A robot goodwill ambassador? by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Does this mean that protocol droids (a la C-3PO) are now a reality? "

      No. But they're a plausibility. Sorry to sound nitpicky but we're a long way from getting to something C-3PO'esque. We haven't quite gotten the 'real time translation of spoken word to an alternative language' bit yet. It's being developed, but it's significantly harder to do than a walking robot.

      Would I be surprised to see protocol droids 10 years from now? I'd be startled, but only because it would still feel a little soon. But it wouldn't be earth shattering.

      I have to admit, though, I was damned impressed with some of those Asimo vids. $1 says Sony and Honda will get into a robot race before long.

      --
      "Derp de derp."
  24. I'll hedge my bets by DrSkwid · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I, for one, welcome our new Japanese overlords!

    --
    There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
    1. Re:I'll hedge my bets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop it STOP IT STOP IT

  25. suitable, this time by michiel.h · · Score: 1

    I for one welcome our new Honda overlords

    1. Re:suitable, this time by canajin56 · · Score: 1

      The Honda Overlord? Is that their newest SUV?

      --
      ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI
  26. ASP != Microsoft by mortonda · · Score: 3, Informative
    You know, it is possible to have ASP pages written in perl, on a Linux server, with Apache and mod_perl? Take a look at Apache-ASP. It runs pretty smooth - I'm sure it could withstand a /.'ing.

    Of course, the site could very well be running Microsoft stuff... I was just pointing out that ASP doesn't necessarily imply it.

    1. Re:ASP != Microsoft by mortonda · · Score: 1

      Replying to myself, I know... but I found this interesting:

      telnet www.rferl.org 80
      Trying 164.109.176.100...
      Connected to www.rferl.org.
      Escape character is '^]'.
      GET / HTTP/1.1

      HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request
      Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 17:36:24 GMT
      Connection: close
      Content-Length: 4009
      Content-Type: text/html
      Server: Apache/1.3.20

      Hmmm. :)

    2. Re:ASP != Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure it could withstand a /.'ing.

      Great, apache-ASP is so efficient that any single-node box running linux will be completely immune to the slashdot effect!

      Or maybe the network infrastructure (load balancing, etc) has more to do with it?

  27. Re:Get real you pathetic loser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah. And since when making up an acronym the procedure is:

    1. Describe product
    2. Pick some letters from description
    3. See if it makes a nice word; if not, goto 1
    And not:
    1. Pick cute name
    2. Make up description to fit

    You're clearly quite correct and not an idiot at all.

  28. I'm impressed. by Animats · · Score: 2, Informative
    Asimo is a beautiful piece of work. It took ten years and three previous models to get this far.

    There are four major humanoid robot projects; Honda, Sony, Waseba University, and a Korean company that keeps a low profile. MIT also has a project, but it's not in the same league.

    1. Re:I'm impressed. by caranha · · Score: 1

      There are four major humanoid robot projects; (...), Waseba University,(...)

      It's WaseDA University, for those looking for it, and it's called Wabian :-).It's quite a nice fellow, but now we're working on wabian 2 (which still has only torso and legs so far).

      Claus

  29. I'm Sure We've Got a Bigger One Somewhere by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Funny

    We send Our Robot out on diplomatic tour from time to time, and it never makes slashdot!

    --

    I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

    1. Re:I'm Sure We've Got a Bigger One Somewhere by The_Pey · · Score: 1

      He's not a robot - he's a puppet. Why do you think you never see Cheney anywhere? The Veep's behind the curtains in the press room, pulling the strings!

      --
      Hmmm...
  30. I, for one.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .. welcome our new diplomatic robot overlords.

    1. Re:I, for one.. by AntiOrganic · · Score: 1

      What else is new? You couldn't have made a more mundane, robotic Slashdot statement without including "6. PROFIT!!!"

  31. Robotnik != Robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Interesting reference to Rossums' Universal Robots. People used to call them "automatons". Robots in the author of the the play's sense are really specially created humans designed to follow orders and work hard. Perhaps with our ever growing work weeks and globalized work force, we are turning ourselves into Robotniks.

    1. Re:Robotnik != Robots by AntiOrganic · · Score: 1

      Perhaps with our ever growing work weeks and globalized work force, we are turning ourselves into Robotniks.

      As long as we don't have any of those pesky blue hedgehogs snooping around, I don't think it's a big problem.

  32. Re:American Thought Control Robot on Diplomatic To by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I hadn't read this stupidity before suggesting the new nick.

    You are truly an idiot.

  33. Dinner by istartedi · · Score: 3, Funny

    , Asimo even attended the official dinner. Apparently

    You forgot to add that he drank a case of beer and belched flames. Called on his questionable behavior, he turned to the Czech ambassador and instructed him to "bite my shiny metal ass".

    The Prime Minister apologized, informing guests that the diplomacy subroutines hadn't been quite worked out yet.

    --
    For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
    1. Re:Dinner by way2trivial · · Score: 1

      I think he woulda gone native
      bite my shiny metal ass- zahryzni sa mi do mojej lesklej ritky

      --
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    2. Re:Dinner by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "...he turned to the Czech ambassador and instructed him to "bite my shiny metal ass."

      Rumor has it that Asimo momentairly opened his moon roof to facilitate the request.

      --
      "Derp de derp."
  34. Looks like it's holding up to me. Why would it be more likely to be Slashdotted just because it's ASP? There are worse dynamic formats it could be in that are more intensive, like, say, Perl.

    I unchecked Karma Bonus because I know this is Off-topic. Disregard if you please.

    --
    "Sufferin' succotash."
  35. Might as well get it over with... by tunabomber · · Score: 1

    Well I, for one, would like to welcome our Al Gore-impersonating, party-hosting, balloon-making overlords.
    Let me remind you that my skills as a karma whore can be useful in rounding up a large group of humans to toil in your underground oil caves.

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  36. gotta love our moderators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they moderate down one-liners no one notices but leave the giant HNA troll thats right above this one

  37. Dinner? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Asimo even attended the official dinner

    Did anyone tell these idiots that robots don't eat?

    I knew the Europeans were pretty stupid, but I thought the Japanese were smarter than that.

  38. Simpsons by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 0
    I, for one, welcome our new diplomatic experimental human robot overlords!

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    Buy Steampunk Clothing Online!
  39. R2-D2 anyone? by Lispy · · Score: 1

    "Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi! You're my only hope!" ;-)

  40. Asimo also payed its respects to Capek... by LiberalApplication · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...with a nice bouquet of flowers.

    I find this at once sweet, silly, and entertaining. Still, maybe he'll visit a monument to Asimov one day and bring even nicer flowers.

  41. Obligatory Simpson's.... by napdawger42 · · Score: 1

    I for one welcome our new robot overlords!

    1. Re:Obligatory Simpson's.... by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "I for one welcome our new robot overlords! "

      Ugh. The least you could have done was use a fresh Futurama quote.

      --
      "Derp de derp."
  42. Asimo Photo-op by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 1

    A Press Photo of Asimo vamping for the camera in Prague can be seen here:

    http://www.sfgate.com/news/pictures/2003/08/22/rob ot7.jpg

    1. Re:Asimo Photo-op by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so, does asimo want some love? dating girls already?

  43. Re:Bandwidth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Asimov is not mentioned from the ASIMO website. ASIMO stands for "Advanced Step in Innovative MObility." I would hope that it is an in-house tribute

    Yes, and "Advanced Step in Innovative MObility" is a very awkward expansion: it's verbose and they spend the O in mobility for the acronym, instead of just ASIM. That's good indication that the acronym came first and its expansion was second. And why would they want that acronym? Yup, Asimov.

    (Yeah, it's pretty flimsy, but it makes sense to me :).)

  44. Stand-ins? by Exatron · · Score: 1

    I thought Al Gore was a robot.

    --
    "I think so, Brain, but 'instant karma' always gets so lumpy." - Pinky
    "Decepticons FOREVER!!!" - Ravage
  45. Humans cost more by ChopSocky · · Score: 1

    I mean you gotta feed 'em and care for 'em and make sure they're comfortable in their 5-star hotels and eating their 5-star meals and so on and so forth. A robot, on the other hand, can be used for scrap parts when they're no longer useful to our cause... I mean, when they break down.

    --

    "Joan of Arc, up top!" - Ghandi, Clone High
  46. Like father by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember dad bush did puke when he was having some conference in Japan more than ten years ago and threw the vomit over a Japanese bureaucrat in dark blue suits sitting next to him. So is this a way to take revenge?

    1. Re:Like father by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm just guessing, but perhaps that was his fucking point.

  47. Asimo meets George W. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The robot will probably visit US of A soon and introduce himself to George W.

    Asimo: "Hello, Mr. President.
    My name is Asimo.
    I brought a gift for you.
    Here you go buddy, Pretzel for you.
    I'll give you a glass of milk, if you buy more cars from Honda.
    I am very diplomatic."

  48. more details, another article by kaan · · Score: 1

    CNN summary (details gleaned from here):

    Once Asimo arrived, he was telling jokes, greeting people, made a champagne toast, and then joked that he couldn't drink any himself because he's underage. Asimo also apparently speaks "perfect Czech", something I find interesting given that most robots kinda suck at talking. This article doesn't mention anything about Asimo's technical details, and while I've read stuff about Honda's robotics division before, I don't recall any mention of speech technology. Does anyone have any info on Asimo's verbal abilities?

    I've noticed another interesting detail in the Asimo development path - didn't he used to be a lot taller? Like, 6 feet instead of 4? I recall seeing a video 3 or 4 years ago where an earlier Honda robot walking out of a subway tunnel during the day. As people passed by, you could plainly see that the robot was significantly taller than most folks. My guess is that making him smaller makes him less threatening.

    1. Re:more details, another article by teko_teko · · Score: 1

      I've noticed another interesting detail in the Asimo development path - didn't he used to be a lot taller? Like, 6 feet instead of 4?

      Check this page. It contains the timelines of the robots tehnology up to ASIMO.

  49. Tool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read your post, and the first thing I though was, "What a complete funcking tool. If I ever meet you, I will kick your ram."

  50. humanoid: phyisically shaped like a human by Sterling+Christensen · · Score: 1

    According to Merriam-Webster: having human form or characteristics

    It has nothing to do with it's beharior or abilities. A mannequin could be called humanoid.

  51. Its analogous to a seeing-eye dog.. by solarrhino · · Score: 1

    A social-skills robot? All extroverted and everything? I think the cost to geeks like me ought to be covered by insurance!

    --
    "Lord, grant that I may always be right, for Thou knowest that I am hard to turn" -- A Scots-Irish prayer
  52. It runs on Apache by tsa · · Score: 1

    Lynx sez:

    File that you are currently viewing

    Linkname: Czech Republic: Humanoid Robot Livens Up Japanese Premier's
    Delegation
    URL: http://www.rferl.org/nca/features/2003/08/22082003 162032.asp
    Charset: iso-8859-1 (assumed)
    Server: Apache/1.3.20
    Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 18:13:10 GMT
    Cache-Control: private
    Owner(s): None

    --

    -- Cheers!

  53. Problem with robots by kamapuaa · · Score: 1

    I believe that owning a humanoid robot would fill a great void in society. Since it is no longer legal to own a human, why not own a robot that looks like one? Of course what would happen when it (inevitably) gains sentience and realizes the inherent inequality of its situation? I saw that episode of Star Trek where they tried to disassemble Data for experiments, and Picard defended him as a sentient beings despite Riker's brilliant prosecution. Riker didn't want to do it but was forced to as the second most senior person and he felt bad about it, but Data forgave him. Come to think of it, he showed a lot of emotion for an emotionless android. Not as much as his brother Lor though. Lor only seemed to have meen emotions. Hopefully my humanoid robot wouldn't have meen emotions when he became sentient and demanded emancipation or he might hurt me for kicking him when he was slow or spilling root-beer in his positronic matrix to see sparks fly.

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  54. Robot comes from 'Hard Compulsive Labor' by aralin · · Score: 1

    Just for these who'd like to know, the word Robot comes from the czech word 'Robota' which means the hard compulsive labor that peasants were forced to do on the land of their feaudal lords. Just to give you a little context when the name of Karel Capek was mentioned as author of the word.

    BTW One little fact about Karel Capek that could be interesting here is that this author had a vocabulary about 10 times of an average person. And his book are extremly influential in many more areas.

    --
    If programs would be read like poetry, most programmers would be Vogons.
    1. Re:Robot comes from 'Hard Compulsive Labor' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      50 years ago Soviets used to force people to do some "malenkey robot" [a little work] what meant Labour Camp for free.

  55. Robots will never be cost effective... by Moderation+abuser · · Score: 1

    For the average family.

    Why?

    Because long long before they are cost effective for domestic use, general purpose robots will be cost effective for businesses, putting the average family on the unemployment line.

    By the time general purpose robotics become available to the average family, the term "cost effective" will have no real meaning.

    --
    Government of the people, by corporate executives, for corporate profits.
    1. Re:Robots will never be cost effective... by Jeremi · · Score: 1

      Are you kidding? We'll all enjoy lucrative careers as robot repairmen. How many people did computers put out of work?

      --


      I don't care if it's 90,000 hectares. That lake was not my doing.
  56. Mythology of Prague and Robots by statusbar · · Score: 1
    Five years ago I visited Prague. Not only was the term 'Robot' created by a Czech - The first mythological robot was created there too.

    Rabbi Loew's Golem was a robot. I had heard the myth before but did not realize that Rabbi Loew had lived relatively recently - in the 16th century, during the same time Kepler lived in Prague.

    Embedded on Rabbie Lowe's tomb is the encrypted hebrew that describes how to 'wake up' the Golem if needed. I saw the tomb in person and I wonder if anyone has tried to make sense of the engravings.

    So what was it? Just a myth of robot? Or an embellished story of an actual robot?

    Regardless, the idea of a robot was there in the 16th century. --jeff++

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  57. C3-PO was the primitive version. by MickLinux · · Score: 1

    Meet the other robot, much more advanced, and made (like Marvin) to open doors:

    O-B1-Kn0b

    In fact, he was so good that he became a jedi knight!

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    Correct Horse Battery Staple: 72 bits of entropy. Enter "Correct H" into google. When it generates the phrase, that's
  58. Matrix joke by qrash · · Score: 0

    -For this story Add obligatory Matrix joke here-

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    you may find the Higgs in this signature.
  59. ASIMO tour in USA by jacobdp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yeah, ASIMO is currently on "tour" in the US. They were in Boston recently.

    The presentation, IMHO, sucked. And I mean really sucked.

    It was staged like a rock concert, with REALLY loud music and far too many flashing lights. Designed for the modern child! (*cough*ADHD*cough*) Then they brought in the robot itself, and protrayed it as an AI. It's remote controlled, but the actress (who was sort of annoying anyway) talked to it as if it was a human. I mean, please. It's a seriously awesome feat of engineering; they don't need to turn impressive science into impressive science fiction.

  60. Enh by DrMrLordX · · Score: 1

    Something about robots and diplomats just don't mix right.

    Pardon me while I go watch Ghost in the Shell . . . oooh geisha bots. hax0r

  61. heh by ShadowRage · · Score: 2, Funny

    I cant wait for it to suddenly just sit there when it's told to follow and say "I'm sorry Junichiro, I'm afraid I can't do that."

  62. Domo Arigato, Mr Asimo by nathanh · · Score: 1

    Sigh, feeling old all of a sudden...

  63. ASP slashdotted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks for the heads up.

    Because that's completely unlike all the Apache servers that are apparently immune to the slashdot effect.

  64. The page is still available! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And quite responsive, I might add.
    How 'bout that ASP!

  65. Actually Asimo is... by kikai+suki · · Score: 1
    Said, officially to have come from Japanese. When they were first researching walking robots they started with a pair of legs with a box on top. In Japanese "ashi" means leg(s) and since their bot had nothing but legs they called it "ashimo." Well, that's the official Honda explanation anyway. The old system of romanizaiton of Japanese uses "si" instead of "shi" which tne new, accurate westeran-originated system uses so it does fit. Many Japanese people (ill-educated by the MOSE) still use the old system as they could care less about accuracy, just what the've been told.

    It is interesting though, I've never thought about the Asimov naming idea... Maybe that's the real reason... or a nifty coincidence.

  66. It's not a robot, people by Carnivorous+Carrot · · Score: 1

    It's not a robot, folks. It's a fancy remote-controlled unit. A voice recognition system (if that) causing it to use canned responses to catch words and phrases (if that, and not sent to it by a live human...)

    The only really neat thing are the semi-polished mechanics allowing it to clumsily walk down stairs like a 90 year old lady.

    --
    "Has [being a kidnapped teenage girl, raped repeatedly for months] changed you?" - Katie Couric to Elizabeth Smart
  67. scary robot and why japanese like tech. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the P1 walking (flash on asimo.honda.com) looks like his trying to sneak up to a kid and scare him ;)

    why are japanese so interessted in technology? because they're tidy! comes with the terratory. if you're a messy society (i'm note naming any names ...) you're just going to clean up your dirth your whole life long (not going anywhere / make dirt clean-it, make dirt clean-it, endless loop); but should you be tidy, you get all this time to focusing on the future/development.
    you also get a better overview. simple!
    maybe this's the reason why the germans teamed up with japan in 2. world war.
    oh and the japanese also respect their past. some other countries try to bury their past ...
    some societies focus more on "hearing" then on "looking". unfortunatly focusing on hearing will not reavel any secrets about the univers. but looking and seeing will.