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Compiling a List of Funny Anti-Linux FUD?
An anonymous reader writes "I am in the process of trying to compile a list of at least 100 anti-Linux FUD statements, preferrably the ones that came from one of the big-shots in the computer industry. I am planning to use it in a multimedia project of mine. I did some searching on the net, including Slashdot, but the information overload has slowed my progress down to a crawl. Could you please assist me in compiling such a list?"
"Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches." Steve Ballmer
Steve, what the hell are you doing posting so late on Slashdot?
See you in Building 1 tomorrow.
Bill
SCO complaint vs. IBM, March 2003:
It is not possible for Linux to rapidly reach UNIX performance standards for complete enterprise functionality without the misappropriation of UNIX code, methods or concepts to achieve such performance, and coordination by a larger developer, such as IBM.
Read the article again, he was asking for FUD's, not rants/trolls.
Hello,
Recently I've been introduced to an operating system known as Linux.
Lured by its low cost, I replaced Windows 98 on my computer with Linux. Unfortunately the more I use it the more I fear that this "Linux" may be an insidious way for the Dark One to gain a stronger foothold here on Earth. I know this may be a shocking claim, but I have evidence to back it up!
To begin with, Linux is based off of an older, obsolete OS called "BSD Unix". The child-indoctrinatingly-cute cartoon mascot of this OS is a devil holding a pitchfork. This OS -- and its Linux offspring -- extensively use what are unsettingly called "daemons" (which is how Pagans write "demon" -- they are notoriously poor spellers: magick, vampyre, etc.) which is a program that hides in the background, doing things without the user's notice. If you are using a computer running Linux then you probably have these "demons" on your computer, hardly something a good Christian would want! Furthermore in order to start or stop these "demons" a user must execute a command called "finger". By "fingering" a "demon" one excercises an unholy power, much the same way that the Lord of Flies controls his black minions.
Linux contains another Satanic holdover from the "BSD Unix" OS mentioned above; to open up certain locked files one has to run a program much like the DOS prompt in Microsoft Windows and type in a secret code: "chmod 666". What other horrors lurk in this thing?
Consider some of these other Linux commands: "sleep", "mount", "unzip", "strip" and "touch". All highly suggestive in a sexual nature. I know that our Lord cannot approve of these, and I urge them to be renamed to something appropriate to the Christian community. Interestingly "CONTROL-G" (the sixth key from the left of the keyboard) does an abort. To write files a "VI" editor is included. All these are to ensnare the unsuspecting christian who could get tempted by typing "VIVIVI" all day long.
Fourth, Linux uses a flavor of DOS known as Bash. Bash is an acronym for "Bourne Again Shell". On the surface this would appear to be supportive of the Lord. However, remember that even Satan can quote the bible for his own purposes! While I believe Linux may be born-again, its obvious by the misspelling of "born" that its not born-again in an Christian church. Will the lies ever cease?
Additionally, one of the main long-haired hippies involved with the GNU Free Software Foundation supports communism, contraception and abortion. He has consistently supported 60's counter-cultural "values", and his web site even advocates government support of contraception. He also wears fake halos, and has quips about his made-up church that relates to his free software. I find such blasphemy to be extremely unsettling.
One must also remember that the creator of Linux, a college student named Linux Torvaldis, comes from Finland. I'm sure all the followers of Christ are aware of the heritical nature of the Finnish: from necrophilia to human sacrifice, Finnish culture is awash in sin. I find little reason to believe anything good and holy could arise from this evil land.
Finally, let us remember that there is an alternative to using the Satan-powered Linux. I think history has shown us that Microsoft is quite holy. I'm told that its founder, William Gates is a strong supporter of our Lord and I encourage my fellow Christians to buy only his products to help keep the Devil at bay.
I wish I had more time to expound upon my findings. Unfortunately a family of Jews has moved in across the street and I must go speak to them of Jesus Christ before they are condemned to eternal hellfire.
Please investigate this as you see fit and I'm sure you'll reach the same conclusions that I have.
What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux's most outspoken advocates:
I'm sure that Eric S. Raymond, composer of the satanic homosexual [goatse.cx] propaganda diatribe The Cathedral and the Bizarre, is probably an anagram of something queer, but we don't need to look that far as we know he's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy's rectum. Update: Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for secondary rim and cord in my arse. It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer.
Update the Second: It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called Fetchmail [microsoft.com], which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male' -- a disgusting practise. For those not in the know, 'felching' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other's rectum. In fact, it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail, turning it into 'e-male.'
As far as Richard 'Master' Stallman goes, that filthy fudge-packer was actually quoted [salon.com] on leftist commie propaganda site Salon.com as saying the following: 'I've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance,' he says. 'It's about being able to question conventional wisdom,' he asserts. 'I believe in love, but not monogamy,' he says plainly.
And this isn't a made up troll bullshit either! He actually stated this tripe, which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he's a flaming homo [comp-u-geek.net] slut [rotten.com]!
Speaking about 'flaming,' who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz. Although an obvious deviant anagram cannot be found from his name, he has already confessed, nay boasted of the homosexual [goatse.cx] perversion of corrupting the innocence of young children [slashdot.org]. To quote from the article linked:
'I've got a rare kidney disease,' I told her. 'I have to go to the bathroom a lot. You can come with me if you want, but it takes a while. Is that okay with you? Do you want a note from my doctor?'
Is this why you were touching your penis [rotten.com] in the cinema, Jon? And letting the other boys touch it too?
We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot's resident Gasbag.' Is there any more doubt? For those fortunate few who aren't aware of the list of homosexual [goatse.cx] terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code,' a 'Gasbag' is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra (or to use the common parlance, 'piss-pipe'), then his
Programming can be fun again. Film at 11.
Jim Alchin (Windows OS Chief) on Open-Source: CNET 2/14/2001
... "I can't believe I said that," Gates joked.
"Open source is an intellectual-property destroyer. I can't imagine something that could be worse than this for the software business and the intellectual-property business."
"I'm an American, I believe in the American Way. I worry if the government encourages open source, and I don't think we've done enough education of policymakers to understand the threat."
"We can build a better product than Linux. There is always something enamoring about thinking you can get something for free."
Bill Gates on Linux IP: CRN 7/25/2003
"There's no question that in cloning activities, IP from many, many companies, including Microsoft, is being used in open-source software."
Bill Gates on beating Linux at any price: USA Today 6/30/2003
"Well I'm not sure what you mean by undercutting. We will never have a price lower than Linux, in terms of just what you charge for the software. We compete on the basis of, if you look at the value you get out of the system and the overall cost that the system has that apply in our software.
Bill Gates on standards: CNN 9/18/2003
Gates said the Redmond, Washington-based company's work toward Web services standards would be "royalty free."
Balmer on Linux: E-week
"Can IBM give you a product roadmap for Linux? Can they deliver new features and fixes to Linux? Does it indemnify the intellectual property in Linux? No, no and no,"
OK, we've all heard the joke about Microsoft being a car and having to press the horn, flash the lights and open the drivers door to reset. I reckon it's about time the tables were turned:
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/var/log/ directory where the driver and passenger can read them when they pull over and park.
/dev/roofrack /roof'. There would be problems unless the driver used the command 'umount /roof' before unscrewing the roofrack. Not all roofracks would work and some would just come back with the message 'roofrack is not a roof device' when issued with the mount command (and still remain invisible).
And if Linux was a car:
1) It would come as a kit along with a copy of CAR HOWTO which would be six months out of date.
2) You would also get three steering wheels and five headlights as part of the standard installation then be expected to pick which ones you wanted to use. There would be constant flame wars between the users of leather steering wheels and the users of the plastic variety.
3) Due to its excessive size the car would not fit into a standard car parking bay and it would be up to the new owner to trim bits off until it could fit.
4) The car would not use a standard radio wiring harness unless you patched the engine compartment using WIRING.TAR.GZ which would only be available by download from the manufacturers website.
5) Support for the linux car would be available from either the car manufacturer (after taking out a maintenance contract and paying a fee) or by logging onto alt.linux.car.problems where every request for assistance would be met with 'RTFM !! V4|\|C3D l3e+$peA| i$ whEn J00 +4lK L1K3 t|-|15. t0 u|\|d3r$+@|\|D jOo |\/|u5+ be lEET. 1f J00 4r3 NO+ lEe+ jOO C@|\|N0T 5p3A| 0r ReAd +|-|I5
6) Adding accessories to the car would be a nightmare. For example you could not add a pair of foglights on the front unless you had the following 'libraries' installed in your car.
bumper.lib.1_6_483865
electrics.lib_3_RH_9
controls.lib.14_6_99
If an attempt to run your foglights without these libraries were to be made (or the libraries were a different version) your foglights MIGHT work but if they didn't there would be no support as the maintainer of electrics.lib_3_RH_9_35 can no longer be found.
7) You could only use your car with a trailer if you rebuilt the engine, this time with support for your model of trailer.
8) Your car would be of doubtful heritage. Parts of the design would be claimed by Novell, other sections would be (C) The Open Linux Group and SCO will lay claim to the whole concept and demand $699 for continued use. One guy in Finland would claim that he designed the whole thing and Richard Stallman would claim that your car is really called GNU Car.
9) Your car would take over five minutes to start. Faster starting methods would be available but be more unreliable, for example the brakes might not work after you start.
10) There would be no warning lights on the car dashboard. All warnings concerning oil, water, lighting and general failures would be written to the
11) Additional storage could be achieved by using a roofrack, but the roofrack would be invisible until the driver issued the command 'mount -t
Any more ?
Ed Almos
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. - Tacitus, 56-120 A.D.
The Open Source movement, otherwise known as 'Free Software', has been a topic of considerable debate on the Internet's most controversial site. The majority of this debate has centered around the technical merits of the software, with the esteemed editors argueing against adopting Linux by employing the full depth of their considerable intellects, and the other side hurling death threats and similar invective. This has allowed many who would not otherwise receive quality information about Open Source software to be made aware of many of its ramifications, but one issue has been left alone: The overt racism that is deeply embedded in the movement.
Allow me to explain.
Alan Cox; Richard Stallman; Bruce Perens; Wichert Akkerman; Miguel DeIcaza.
What do you see in this list of names? Are there any African-Americans on it? Absolutely not, none of those names sound like one a self-respecting black person would have! No Maurice, no Luther, no Lil' Kim. There are many other lists such as this, you can see one here. Flip through each page, do you see anything other than white faces? Of course you don't, because Open Source and its adherents are ardent racists and they absolutely forbid access to the sacred 'kernel' by any person of color.
Lets look at another list, this time a compendium of the companies using Linux. Are there any black owned companies on that list? Nooooooo. How about these companies? They all have something to do with Open Source software, any of them owned by an African-American? No again. Here is an extensive collection of photographs from a LUG (Linux User Gathering) meeting, more can be viewed at that link. What is odd about these pictures, and every other photograph I have ever seen of a LUG meeting, is that there is not one single black person to be seen, and probably none for miles.
More racist overtones can be found by examining the language of Open Source. They often refer to 'white hat' hackers. These 'white hats' scurry about the Internet doing good, but illegal, acts for their fellow man. In stark contrast we find the 'black hat' hackers. They destroy the good works of others by breaking into systems, stealing data, and generally causing havoc. These two terms reflect the mindset of most Linux developers. White means good, black means bad. Anywhere there is black, there is uncontrollable destruction and lawlessness. Looking further we see black lists that inform other users of 'bad' hardware, Samba, an obvious play on the much hated Little Black Sambo book, Mandrake, which I won't explain except to say that the French are notorious racists. This type is linguistic discrimination is widespread throughout the Open Source culture, lampooned by many of its more popular sites.
It is also a fact that all Unix 'distros' contain a plethora of racist commands with not so hidden symbolism.
It can hardly be coincidence that the prime operating system of choice of the 'open source supremacists' - Linux, features commands which are poorly disguised racist acronyms. For example: 'awk' (All White Klan) , 'sed' (shoot nEgroes dead), 'ln' (lynch negroes), 'rpm' (raical purity mandatory), 'bash' (bring a slave home), 'ps' (persecute sambo), 'mount' (murder or unseat nubians today), 'fsck' (favored supreme Christian klan). I could go on and on about the latent racist symbolism in Linux, but I fear it would take weeks to enumerate every incidence.
Is there a single unix command out there that does not have some hidden racist connotation ? Suffice it to say that the racism pervades Linux like a particularly bad smell. Can you imagine the effect of running such a racist operating system on the impressionable mind ? I don't have to remind you that transmitting subliminal messages is banned in the USA, and yet here we have an operating system that appears to be one enormous submliminal ad for the Klan!
One of the few selling points of Open Source software is that it is available in many different languages. Browsing through the list I see that absolut
This past year, I was accepted into Carnegie Mellon's School of Computer
Science. It has been a remarkable experience that I would like to share with
the Slashdot community. Here's an account of my experience.
Week 1, Sunday: I moved in today. My roommate, a sophomore CS student, had
already moved in two days before me. The floor is already completely covered
with garbage. He also smells. I think he might be gay too. He's already asked
me if I like the color he painted his toenails. This should be interesting. I
am almost completely settled in. Techno music is playing in every room in every
floor of my dorm. There are computers and other types of trash out in the
common areas. What a mess. Tomorrow, I am going to go sign up to get my network
connection.
Week 1, Monday: I got hooked up to the CMU network today! I jacked into the
network, only to find that the hostname and address assigned to me were
colliding with another system. I'll just increment the network numbers a few
times. I am really eager to get on.
Week 1, Tuesday: I am still looking for a free IP address. Can't anybody here
properly configure their systems?
Week 1, Friday: I finally found a free IP! It's mine! You sons of bitches can't
have it, I found it, I keep it, it's mine! To hell with all of you! Head hurts
really bad. I've slowly been developing a headache since I first arrived.
Everywhere I look there are these Lucent Technologies wireless access points. I
wonder if that's the problem.
Week 1, Saturday: I sat down at my computer today. My desktop wallpaper is now
the goatse.cx guy. Pleasant. Scattered over every directory on my C: drive are
thousands, possibly millions, of files titled "J00AR30WN3DBITCH-phj33r-" and
then some random hacker's name. Don't these people have lives? Maybe they need
laid or something. It'd take days to clean this out. I mentioned to my roommate
that I needed to reinstall Windows, and immediately he jumped up and shouted:
"NO! Do NOT use Windows!" Suddenly, two dozen other guys (all of them possibly
homosexuals) appeared at the door, each touting an operating system called
Linux. Half of them got into a fight over which was better, Debian, RedHat,
Slackware, and a bunch of others I couldn't recognize. Some kid who appeared to
not have showered since he was born was touting "Linux From Scratch", saying
that only losers used pre-made distros. A crowd of people in the back kept
quiet about how I'd be sorry if I used Linux instead of BSD on the network. Who
the fuck are these people? Classes start next week. Hope I have my computer
working so I can do my assignments.
Week 3, Friday: People are still trying to get Linux to work on my system. They
keep telling my that my hardware sucks. We go through about four or five
distributions a day. Every now and then, I notice a little devil on my screen.
Stickers for every of these distributions have been plastered on my case.
Suddenly, my room stinks a lot more with these people in here. I ask them why
they never shower, and the usual response is something along the lines of
"showering is like rebooting" and "I don't want to lose my uptime."
Week 3, Saturday: There's a troop of men running naked in a circle around
McGill Hall. I am not even going to ask.
Week 4, Wednesday: Linux is FINALLY working on my computer! I have a pretty
slick desktop too. I think I might like this. I can finally work in my room
instead of the labs, although considering the every increasing layer of garbage
on the floor...
Week 4, Thursday: My computer flashes messages about how I am "0WNX0RED" and
how I should "PHJ33R" whoever and how "L4MEX0R" I am for having an insecure
box. A kid suggests we reinstall Linux after discovering about 17 rootkits.
Week 5, Friday: Someone got BSD working on my computer. I wonder if this will
last. The stress has been building and I forgot to take a shower this morning.
Linux: A response to the perceived threat of a capitalistic monopoly.
Terrorism: A response to the perceived threat of a capitalist society.
Linux: Supported by a devout group of fanatics dedicated to the cause.
Terrorism: Supported by a devout group of fanatics dedicated to the cause.
Linux: Seen by the rest of the world as a "fringe" operating system.
Terrorism: Seen by the rest of the world as a "fringe" group.
Linux: Attractive to those looking to destroy Microsoft and the software industry.
Terrorism: Attractive to those looking to destroy the USA and the rest of the infidels.
Linux: Recruits loners and outcasts into its loyal user-base.
Terrorism: Recruits loners and outcasts into its training camps.
Linux: Drew vast amounts of funding from supporters, with only ideological returns.
Terrorism: Drew vast amounts of funding from supporters, with only ideological returns.
Interested in open source engine management for your Subaru?
My sig :)
puts ("Python r0cks\n");
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I would like to share with you a story - a story of pain, rejection, denial, loneliness, and perhaps, at the end, triumph and a happy ending. This story begins just three short years ago...
I was in my senior year of highschool, and as was the style at the time, I was very much interested in computers. I loved to take them apart, figure out how they worked, write programs with Microsoft's fine development environment, Visual Studio [microsoft.com]. As was also the style at the time, I loved to read webpages, in particularly, Slashdot.org [slashdot.org]. Perhaps you can guess what happened next. I began to slowly change - I developed an unhealthy obsession with computers, began to dislike and openly question America's policies, started shamelessly pirating music [napster.com] and software [gnu.org], and most dangerously, got turned on to that most deviant operating system of all - Linux.
Now I know many of you must be shaking your head in disgust at this point - "This must just be another one of those M$ trolls, hardee har har," but please, hear me out. This is very important.
As time went on, I got deeper and deeper in the Linux underground. I progressed through the various levels of "distros," from Mandrake, to Suse, to RedHat, finally to Debian, like a drug user going from harmless marijuana to cocaine and heroin. I thought I was so smart; I began sneering at other people who didn't use Linux - "Clueless Windo$e luzers," I would say. I was changing outwardly as well. I became a loner, hunched over the keyboard late into the night with the lights off, listening to my illegally downloaded music [kazaa.com]. All my friends left me after I broke their computers trying to install Linux on them. My hair grew long and unkempt, I stopped bathing and using deodorant, calling them "tools of capitalism and American greed." I got fired from my sysadmin job for installing slackware over the Solaris servers, and installing Debian over the Windows desktops. My bosses told me I cost the company hundreds of thousands of dollars, but I would not listen. "How could I be wrong, I'm using Linux?" I thought, "They must be M$ shills." You can see how far gone I was. No girls would look at me, let alone speak to me. I was in a world of pain, anger, and confusion [adequacy.org].
But, then one day, I took a long hard look at myself. I saw that something was wrong, but did not know what. I must confess, for a long time I denied what I knew deep down inside my heart - Linux was the cause of all my troubles. I saw what I had allowed myself to become. I was no longer a human being, I was a Linux Zealot. Instead of judging people by their thoughts, feelings, and actions, I judged them by their choice of Operating System. And so began the long road toward recovery...
I am still not fully recovered from my affliction, for you see, I have only one desktop machine, and cannot install Windows without losing much of my data. That's right, I am healthy enough to admit it, Linux is not for desktop use. I am planning my next desktop machine purchase, which will be an Apple iBook. The one good thing that came out of my years of torment is that I learned the power of Unix. Therefore, I will use MacOSX - a true Unix with excellent support and commercial software backing, something Linux will never have. By paying for my software from now on, I will be supporting the American economy. I want to help get America out of this economic tailspin [www.vasoftware] brought on by open source software [communism.org] and the dot com bust [fuckedcompany.com]. More importantly, I will no longer be an operating system zealot. I wi
Linux is i386 only. It is not portable to other platforms, like MIPS, Alpha, PPC, etc. Windows NT is a modern, portable 32 bit operating system.
Linux does not support SMP. The Linux hackers are just kids with too much time on their hands, and they will never be able to afford serious hardware.
Linux is obsolete. The monolithic kernel is a joke, and will never scale past the level of a play-thing. In a couple of years, most people will run the GNU Hurd on 64 bit Sparc CPUs.
I can probably come up with some that are still true, but right now I'm too tired. Oh yes: The Gentoo Linux Installation Manual is sure to create some Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt among those who want to look into Linux as a replacement for their pre-installed Windows.
Given your writing style, grammar, and spelling... you'd have the equivalent of an American grade 6 education. Some professor you are.
pi=sigma{n:0-infinity}[(1/16)^n][(4/(8n+1))-(2/(8n +4))-(1/ (8n+5))-(1/(8n+6))]
And if you'd even bothered to read the TITLE of the article, you'd see that an example of talking out of your "@$$" is exactly what the submitter was looking for.
Microsoft's Linux Myths page
J'aime mieux les méchants que les imbéciles, parce qu'ils se reposent. -- Alexandre Dumas
link
Remember everyone, she is a "technology consultant"....
"I have to admit that I was never much of a believer in open source. Maybe my business school coursework rendered me blind to the glorious vision of a "gift culture" in which people contribute their work to a decentralized development project like Linux for honor instead of money. Or possibly I'm just too thick to understand how cutting off a multi-billion dollar revenue stream from software sales, without putting anything else in its place, could be good for the software business."
"The outcome of the Windows/Mac showdown seems to indicate that the company that owns the corporate desktop owns the marketplace."
"Those who saw open source as the inevitable revolution concentrated only on the value propositions that Linux could offer on price and performance. They weren't paying as much attention to other considerations, such as indemnity, that might be even more important than performance to the marketplace, because after all, what open source developers are good at (and interested in) is technological revolution, not liability planning and insurance premiums."
I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of a Linux box (a P4 3200 w/1024 Megs of RAM) for about 20 minutes now while it attempts to copy a 17 Meg file from one folder on the hard drive to another folder.
Call yourself a freelancer? Try turning DMA on. You should know that. Yes it should be on by default, but at least it doesn't silently and irreversibly turn it off without warning when more than 6 timeouts occur on the bus. Like XP does.
As far as productivity goes, it's all a question of what you're used to. I prefer linux as a desktop because it does what I need it to do in a way that I feel comfortable with. You feel the same about Windows. Which is fair enough, but it's just your opinion, it's not absolute.
if you use micro$hit winblows ur probably a FAG and like to have sex wit hMENS BUTTS!!!!1
It's interesting to note that a lot of Linux was written by European developers. Europeans tend to be more accepting of gay and lesbian people than North Americans.
Fire and Meat. Yummy.
Show us what you have so that we know what sort of thing you're looking for, and so that we can avoid duplication of effort. Put your draft document on the web. Perhaps pick a license.
People of the sort who can provide the most useful information on this subject will tend to want to see you do that basic and minimal work first. I think they will also agree that a good place for a "multimedia project" is the web.
Thursday May 30, 12:29 pm Eastern Time
Press Release
SOURCE: Alexis de Tocqueville Institution
Open Source Software May Offer Target for Terrorists, According to Study by Alexis de Tocqueville Institution's Committee for the Common Defense
WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 30, 2002--Terrorists trying to hack or disrupt U.S. computer networks might find it easier if the federal government attempts to switch to "open source" as some groups propose.
"Opening the Open Source Debate", a soon to be released white paper by Alexis de Tocqueville Institution details the complex issues surrounding open source, particularly if federal agencies such as the Department of Defense or the Federal Aviation Administration use software that inherently requires that its blueprints, source code and architecture is made widely available to any person interested - without discretion.
In a paper to be released next week, the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution outlines how open source might facilitate efforts to disrupt or sabotage electronic commerce, air traffic control or even sensitive surveillance systems.
Unlike proprietary software, open source software does not make the underlying code of a software confidential.
"Computer systems are the backbone of U.S. national security", says Fossedal, chairman of the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution and its Committee for the Common Defense, which will release the study. "Before the Pentagon and other federal agencies make uninformed decision to alter the very foundation of computer security, they should study the potential consequences carefully."
Contact:Alexis de Tocqueville Institution
Ken Brown, 202/548-0006
kenbrown@adti.net
www.adti.net
Programming can be fun again. Film at 11.
well for sure you didn't 'get' it.
it's the same old 'i bought a blazing fast new mac and it takes ages to copy a file' troll in slightly altered form.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
Since this is turning into a jokefest I'll repost something I sent to the LVLUG:
Someone posted a Microsoft centric How many X does it take to screw in a light bulb so I thought I'd find some Linux ones and post them. I couldn't find any (didn't look real hard though) and so came up with my own (slightly lame) list. Can anyone add to it? Is there a page full of these that I missed?
How many Linux users to screw in a light bulb?
One to say that on Linux their light bulbs never burn out.
Another to say that they don't use light bulbs with Linux, they like waving their hands around in the dark better.
One to find light_bulb_0.4.12.rpm
One to say "you should be using light_bulb.i386.0.4.12.rpm
One to solve the dependancy on light_socket.1.0.2.lib.so and
light_switch.2.1.0.lib.so
One to suggest using Debian, they wouldn't have dependancy problems in the first place.
Another to suggest Mandrake, cause with Debian they wouldn't have gotten the wiring installed in the first place.
Another to suggest Gentoo, where he just types "emerge light_bulb".
Another to complain that with Gentoo he'd be waiting around for light all weekend.
One to suggest waiting around for next month's user group meeting where everyone could help screw in the light bulb.
One who says candle_3.2 works just fine for him and doesn't see why light_bulb is worth all the trouble.
One to start the HOWTO (credit User FWC)
Bleh!
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The fake Gzip Christ isn't not user number ~0xA6CA7
ok, I know that this is a picture, but you could still include it in your presentation or something.
Tux
Ohh, that one. Yeah. Silly me.
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http://www.sco.com/
you'll find the latest, updated and best-written collection of FUDs about Linux.
-- There are two kind of sysadmins: Paranoids and Losers. (adapted from D. Bach)
Grade 6? Then he writes better than most of /.
You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
"I have never had a customer mention Linux to me" (Bill Gates)
To be fair, at that time it may have been correct. Just as 640KB used to be enough for everyone.
Good point.
There's an even worse case of this going on: The English language. People speak and read it, adding words and allowing others to fall into misuse, without any corporate entity providing profit-based guidance or deriving income from its use.
This is not good for the economy and for the public interest in general. Therefore, I propose that people start speaking Raju1kabirish, which will require licensing payments of $100 annually. I am sure you will be the first one to sign up.
Given your poor mastery of English, it would seem you have little invested in that platform anyway, so what have you got to lose? Put your money where your mouth is (wipe it off first though).
"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." -- GBS
Walrus - walrii
bus - bii
lol
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And as an 4|\|0|\|Y|\/|0|_|5 he firmly stands behind his statements.
Dood I'm so 1337.
$5 says he's actually a windows using script kiddy.
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Until the end of time there will always be the competition of Windows and Linux. This ongoing battle is so tiresome. Who freaking cares which OS someone uses. You can't honestly tell me that there is one OS that is perfect for everyone. I personally use Windows and Linux, but I'd never let my parents anywhere near Linux. The call me up for tech support too much as it is.
Have you ever asked a linux use what's the best distro of linux. You'll get laughed at, because he knows there's no right answer for that. It all depends on the person and situation.
Quit all your Windows vs Linux arguing already. It's retarded.
If you havent' figured it out by now his post does not advocate the use of an OS. Use what's best for you and leave everyone alone to do the same.
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Umm... your examples don't correspond to the .sig, since radii is actually the plural of radius (check this link if you don't believe me)
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First if you program in Lisp in Emacs you are with out a nerd.
"If gcc could improve (see Dr Dobbs C++ compiler shootout for a better take on this)"
Frankly that was one of the worst comparisons I have ever read in my life. The test cases where lame in the extream. They should have tried to compile some real programs like POV, Mozilla, or even GCC.The whole size of executiables was just dump. If you do not use IOSTREAM the size of the gcc files drops right down. The large size has more to do with the library than the compiler in that case. It also means as the programs get larger it means less.
He also under valued standards and portability. You can not use VC++ or Mars to write code for Linux, Solaris, or BSD. You can not use the Intel compiler to write code for any CPU but Intel.
All that artical did was to tell you that if you want to write small demo programs for Windows that VC++ was the easiest, Intel was the fastest, Mars C++ is cheapest. It was a shallow lame artical and not what I would expect from DDJ. Frankly DDJ has gone way downhill.
BTW I am not bashing Mars. It looks like a very nice free Windows development system.
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It's source code is basically stolen from others work.
Stolen from those who freely contributed to it, right? Who has the source code been stolen from?
It is free and has no market(money) driving it's development so therefore it's not good for the economy and the public interest in general
And we should decide what OS we use on the basis of how good for the economy it should be? Please explain this "philosophy".
Desktop users want something that's usable but not too expensive. Companies who buy servers want something that will achieve their objectives and help them increase profits and customer base. Sure, the end result goes towards helping the economy, but what if Linux will help the company achieve those goals better than Linux or SunOS? I'd say Linux would be helping the economy.
The philosophy behind the distribution of Linux is Un-American and more like communism. This cannot be good for our country.
I've heard this argument many times, and I'm still not convinced. Un-American is no competition. Linux has just added to the competition. It competes with Windows, SunOS, AIX, etc.
It allows terrorists just enough encryption and power to aid them in their efforts to KILL us.
If you know anything, you'll know that the CIA (and FBI, etc.) can break just about any encryption out there, regardless of who created it and how open/close it's source is.
The source is provided so ANYONE can create scripts and such to slam a linux system.
Anyone can do the same thing with Windows. You've heard about the recent attacks, right? I don't believe anything on Linux could easily propogate that quickly, that easily. Even if it's possible, it hasn't happened yet.
If a student writes in a paper in my class and lists Linux as one of the OS's that make up the major market then they get an F on that paper.
My emotional response is that professors like you (who think like this on any subject) should burn in Hell. Practially speaking, isn't college for coming up with ideas? How can you say that your idea is the RIGHT one? It's YOUR opinion, and there are many others out there with different opinions (and don't say you're the most qualified person to make such a judgment)
The reason is because Linux is not in the major Market it is in the minor market - the second rate special purpose OS's. Linux is not general enough to be considered an universal OS.
Then please explain IBM's strategy, and why it is a major leader in many different server markets?
In it's current state Linux is not ready for primetime. It will never be until Linus Torvalds does the following.
1) Settle disputes with the IP holder of UNIX (SCO).
Ha! Like the Linux community can do anything about that until SCO actually gives the community something to change. Tell SCO to stop spreading rumors and actually show something concrete. What they have "shown" so far was way off track.
2) Restricted source license.
This is a benefit of Linux. Anyone can modify it if they so choose. However, there IS an official "kernel" (which is all Linux is, you know this, right?), and the releaser of this kernel (Linus) has been shown to be trustworthy.
3) Make it a TRUE commercail OS
Why does GNU/Linux have to be commercial? Sure, this is the current business model, but do you know that computers were developed in the university sytem, and that the developers of the first useful computer (the Whirlwind computer used by the US Air Force) was developed in a non-commercial way? There is not just one way to do things. Open Source (and therefore, Linux) is a new way of doing things.
Also, RedHat, Mandrake, SuSE and others ARE commercial. Yes, they release a base product for free, but there are extended products that you would need to pay for. RedHat's turned a profit, and I believe Mandrake has too (if not yet, then within the next half year they will).
Programs written fo
Those words popped into my head when I read his post and I couldn't stop laughing. So, I decided to post it for other's enjoyment, but you are correct.
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... but one of my earlier sigs was noticed.
"I hate Linux because it made me type man mount."
"Derp de derp."
Bullcrap.
I'm a developer and gamesmaster for an ISP, as well as running my own network plugged off theirs. I administer 5 gameservers, 6 boxes on said network, both my work machines, my home router, and do tech support/admin stuff for all my friends I've gotten onto linux. All up about 20 linux boxen in toto. Add to this that I consider myself a linux n00b: I've only been using it about 3 years.
My single and lonesome Windows 2000 machine which is used exclusively for games gives me more trouble than all the rest put together.
And before the flamebait tag comes out, yes, I've admined 20+ Windows machines too. Fricken nightmare.
Steep learning curve, yes I agree. Having recently switched entirely to linux bar the one games machine, I can understand that. On the other hand, this is what I tell everyone I help set up - it will take a while to get used to. Once you've been using it a few weeks, you're away laughing.
As for the rest of your post, pure malarky. I've lost literally 20Gb under windows (hosed NTFS clusters munged an entire drive), and nothing in linux. I've even had an IDE cable literally melt due to me stupidly leaving it so it can sit against a CPU heatsink. e2fsck /dev/hda1 -y, and everything's back to normal. And that was using EXT2, so what you're on about I don't know.
ps. badly coded tools? eh? Try using MSSQL sometime....
This post really has no point to it except to point out what a bias bonehead this guy is. Mind you, so am I =)
Ahhh, something windows bunnies have been dreaming about for years.
I've got 4 very good browsers installed, if you'd like a recommendation...
Jealousy gets you nowhere.
That has to be the most links to goatse.cx that I have ever seen in a /. comment. Props to you for not getting modded down.
"No beer until you finish your tequila!" -Leela's Dad
An important factor in Linux' cost is its maintenance. Linux requires a *lot* of maintenance, work doable only by the relatively few high-paid Linux administrators that put themselves - of course willingly - at a great place in the market. Linux seems to be needing maintenance continuously, to keep it from breaking down. Please give examples of maintenance Linux needs to keep running besides normal patching that both Windows and Linux require. I would like to know what I am not doing.
The only real points you made were:
1. redhat sucks
2. your a shitty professor
We all knew #1 already, #2 I was pretty easy to figure out as well.
I just copied a 64(ish)MB file from one folder to another (OpenOffice.org for windows -zip file) Took around 6 seconds.
I strongly suggest that your hard disk is fucked.
My Machine:
Athlon XP1800, Mandrake 9.1 512MB RAM. 2x40GB Maxtor 5200rpm drives
Hmmmmmm..... Deep fried and look like Squirrel.
Oh boy, the irony here is amazing. The article is asking for examples of FUD about Linux, and when someone posts one, they get blasted by the Linux zealots. I'm sitting here laughing at the zealots selective reading. It's like the context of "Give me examples of FUD" went sailing over their heads. You wouldn't think everyone posting in this thread would have to put a disclaimer at the beginning of every post saying, "The following is an example of anti-Linux FUD, as called for above. This does not represent the views of the poster." But apparently they do, because the mob will just perk up their ears--"Huh? He just said something bad about Linux! Let's get 'im!"
OK, here's mine:
<linux FUD> Where am I supposed to get drivers for this thing? The install disc is useless on Linux.</linux FUD>
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and it seems to have caught so many
TIAEAE!
Wow. You get paid $4000/day to suggest putting XML in the kernel?
Screw senior software engineer! How do I get started in marketing?
I hope to god that you're joking. If you are at all serious, does your cat's breath smell like cat food?
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I read that and first thought, "Hmm Some people REALLY like MSOffice."
Oh, you said it the other way around. I read it like I see it. :)
"I can't give you a brain, so I'll give you a diploma" - The Great Oz (blatently stolen sig)
No, no, no! The interface to the high holy Linus kernel should be XML-based...