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"Star Wars: Clone Wars" coming to Cartoon Network

Androclese writes "E! Online News reports - 'Star Wars: Clone Wars, a series of animated shorts featuring the epic battles often mentioned but never seen in the Star Wars films, is being prepped for its fall premiere on the Cartoon Network...helmed by Genndy Tartakovsky of Samurai Jack and Dexter's Laboratory fame. Each Clone Wars adventure will run two-to-three minutes and focus on Obi-Wan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker and their cohorts as they lead the Galactic Republic against evil armies of cloned troopers created by the Separatists.'"

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  1. It couldn't be that bad. by Stargoat · · Score: 1

    I've seen the previews, and there's no way it could be as bad as Episode 1 or 2.

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    1. Re:It couldn't be that bad. by chriscooper1470 · · Score: 1

      These HAVE to be better then some of the other SW made for TV films/cartoons, ie: Ewoks, The TWO Ewok movies, and the great SW Holiday Special. I can't forget the cartoon Droids. I have a VHS copy of the SW Holiday Special and the best thing about it is the commercials from the 70s! Oh it also has the first appearance of Bobba Fett Cartoon in the middle of the special!

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    2. Re:It couldn't be that bad. by fenix+down · · Score: 1

      SD Gundam has got to be the best pothead show ever. I don't know what the fuck it's about, but anything with baby robots that talk by stretching their orificeless faces around has to be hilarious when you're stoned.

  2. The Clone Wars and Episode III by Decaffeinated+Jedi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I still say that Lucas missed out by having Episode III pick up after the Clone Wars. It's something that Star Wars fans have wanted to see for decades now, and I have a feeling that a series of animated shorts--no matter how well-produced they may be--just won't do the Clone Wars justice.

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    1. Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III by SwansonMarpalum · · Score: 2, Informative

      He doesn't have much choice, Star Wars was always supposed to be the story of Anakin Skywalker. If he focused on the Clone Wars instead of Anakin's fall from grace, that would be contradictory to the intent.

      Which is not to say that I think this will be good, or will do the Clone Wars justice, or will in any way shape or form be fitting. But try to see things from George's point of view.

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    2. Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III by Ark42 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Is there something stopping a future creation of Star Wars 2.5 for some reason? Everybody likes prequals, so why not a .. um.. interqual?

    3. Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III by Decaffeinated+Jedi · · Score: 2, Interesting
      He doesn't have much choice, Star Wars was always supposed to be the story of Anakin Skywalker. If he focused on the Clone Wars instead of Anakin's fall from grace, that would be contradictory to the intent.
      Was Star Wars always supposed to be the story of Anakin Skywalker, or is that just another example of LucasHistory(TM)--you know, the version of history where the Star Wars films were always intended for kids, Greedo shot first, and Lucas planned a nine-part saga from day one? ;)
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    4. Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III by Zocalo · · Score: 1

      Well, there does appear to be a sequence of at least six novels as well, starting with "Shatterpoint", and there will no doubt be a lot of comics too. I have to agree that it's no substitute for a movie set in the midst of the wars though.

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    5. Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III by kannibal_klown · · Score: 1

      There REALLY were books/stories/episodes 1-3 in written form a long time ago, however I don't think Lucas is following them VERY closely. But still, he has to at leat follow the general plot so that it follows into episode 4.

      Skipping the clone wars isn't really his fault. However, I agree with a previous post that an Eposide 2.5 would be nice. Or maybe someone starting a new trilogy covering the clone wars.

    6. Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He doesn't have much choice, Star Wars was always supposed to be the story of Anakin Skywalker.

      Is that why episodes 4-6 are about Luke and his friends?

      Lucas just likes to revise his intentions and pretend he always wanted it to be about the rise, fall, and redemption of Anakin Skywalker.

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    7. Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

      Everybody likes prequals, so why not a .. um.. interqual?

      Mods, give the parent some brownie points... I do believe this gentleman has stumbled on whole new untapped revenue streams for hollywood!

      Can you imagine a Matrix 1.5? The film starts with Neo and Trinity picking up the pieces and hightailing it out of there after setting off the emp. They face a rugged and dangerous journey across the machine badlands before making their way to zion where morpheous tries to convince everyone that Neo is the one...

      Or how about a LOTR 1.01? You know the part where the hobbits meet Tom Bombadil one of the most powerful (though certainly not influential) characters in the book?

      And just imagine what Friday the 13th's writers can do if they no longer have to make every movie consistent with previous stories?

      Oh wait...

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    8. Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III by TomV · · Score: 1

      I find your lack of faith...

      Disturbing.

      Wheeze, Wheeze.

      (sorry, couldn't resist, but seriously That Black Mask was one of the icons of the original Star Wars trilogy. And until he got redeemed in RotJ, Lord Vader was IMHO the best, the quintessential villain in the history of melodrama.)

    9. Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III by golgotha007 · · Score: 1

      yes, yes! and all the stormtroopers guns can be replaced with walkie talkies!

    10. Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III by Dunkelzahn · · Score: 1

      IIRC the fact of the matter is, regarding the nine part series, is that George Lucas realized while working on the sequels to A New Hope that he would not live long enough to make enough movies for a nine part trilogy (prequels included - read the original scripts from 1973-1975 and you'll see that much of the prequel material was already there from the beginning) and still be able to have time to enjoy life. So he turned compacted the events of the last trilogy into ESB and ROTJ.

      It was something like...

      Empire Strikes Back = events from V and VI
      Return of the Jedi = events from VII-IX.

      That way he would only have to do one more trilogy, and that would be the prequels.

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    11. Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III by sharkey · · Score: 1

      STAR WARS - Episode 2.5
      Touched by a Gungan

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    12. Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III by Spunk · · Score: 1

      Can you imagine a Matrix 1.5?

      It's funny you pick that out of all possible examples when this exists.

      I think "interquels" could be pretty neat in the right circumstances. Or "co-quels" like Ender's Shadow.

  3. E Online's Description.... by The+Lynxpro · · Score: 3, Informative

    Anakin Skywalker and their cohorts as they lead the Galactic Republic against evil armies of cloned troopers created by the Separatists.'"

    Nice. Only problem is that the Clones are on the side of the Jedi and the Republic, not the Separatists. The Separatists use droid armies. Someone really was doing their job over at E, weren't they?

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    1. Re:E Online's Description.... by wud · · Score: 1

      The clones wern't supposed to be on the side of the jedi.. they were made in the name of the jedi, and the jedi found out and used them to fight the droids because they had to... but they were made for the old jedi master guy that the jedi think is dead, who i bet turns out to be the emporer.

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    2. Re:E Online's Description.... by asm0deu5 · · Score: 1

      Senator Palpatine is the Emporer, not the old Jedi Master they think is dead. I doubt that Jedi and the Senator are the same people.

    3. Re:E Online's Description.... by Worminater · · Score: 1

      You dont know what happens in episode 3 do you...?

      hm... to ruin the third movie or not...

      nah, I think i woudl rather let you think your onto something here /me scoffs

    4. Re:E Online's Description.... by wud · · Score: 1

      the emporer as in the evil one that when he dies gets reformed in the depths of the empire(sw:ccg)... i think hes called darth siduous in the prequels

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    5. Re:E Online's Description.... by FrostedWheat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Someone really was doing their job over at E, weren't they?

      They probably fell asleep during the movie. And can you blame them?

    6. Re:E Online's Description.... by The+Lynxpro · · Score: 3, Informative

      "The clones wern't supposed to be on the side of the jedi.. they were made in the name of the jedi, and the jedi found out and used them to fight the droids because they had to..."

      This cartoon is about the CLONE WARS. The CLONE WARS are the epic battles between the Republic and the Separatists, not what happens after the Republic "wins" and becomes the EMPIRE of the original trilogy. The Clone Troopers won't turn on the Jedi until AFTER the CLONE WARS ends. So, for the duration of the cartoon series and the first 10 minutes of EPISODE THREE, the CLONES will be on the side of the JEDI.

      What you are confused about are the events after the CLONE WARS. That is when Supreme Chancellor Palpatine declares himself Emperor and Anakin Skywalker becomes Darth Vader. That is when the Jedi are hunted down and driven toward extinction thanks to Vader, the renamed STORM TROOPERS, and bounty hunters like Boba Fett.

      Palpatine IS DARTH SIDEOUS.

      Here are some great links for you to do some research on:

      http://www.starwars.com

      http://www.theforce.net

      http://www.jedinet.com

      http://www.rebelscum.com

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    7. Re:E Online's Description.... by wud · · Score: 1

      WOWWWWWWWW if thats right, its gonna be soo much better than i thought.

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    8. Re:E Online's Description.... by rikomatic · · Score: 1

      Man, how are kids going to understand this if /. geeks don't get it?

    9. Re:E Online's Description.... by sketerpot · · Score: 1

      I can't blame anyone for wincing during the love scenes (I sure did---the weakest part of the movie), but the action parts were great, and I'm the sort of person who will like a movie with a mediocre plot as long as it has great special effects. Attack of the Clones fit the bill.

    10. Re:E Online's Description.... by willith · · Score: 1

      THANK YOU. I wasn't quite CLEAR on ALL of the POINTS you brought UP in your INFORMATIVE POST.

      Now, if you'll EXCUSE ME, I'm GOING to go EAT some CHEE-TOS.

    11. Re:E Online's Description.... by operagost · · Score: 1

      I apologize if English is your second language, but it's spelled "emperor". Sorry, I'm just getting tired of seeing that one misspelled.

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    12. Re:E Online's Description.... by MsGeek · · Score: 1

      Mr. DeMartino? Is that you?

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    13. Re:E Online's Description.... by shemnon · · Score: 1

      Plapatine IS NOT Darth Sideous. Palpatine is a CLONE of Darth Sideous (but doesn't know it yet). The Sith Lords arent stupid enough to believe they can hide underneath the nose of the greatst Jedi Masters of the day, they aren't that powerful. But with a bit of cleverness they can over come the Jedi.

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    14. Re:E Online's Description.... by CaseyB · · Score: 1
    15. Re:E Online's Description.... by crashnbur · · Score: 1

      But the Separatists (led by Tyranus, et al) are the ones who had the clones created. They are orchestrating the war, and only a tiny few of them know it.

    16. Re:E Online's Description.... by bar-agent · · Score: 1

      http://www.outpost-daria.com/ch_demartino.html

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    17. Re:E Online's Description.... by Dunkelzahn · · Score: 1

      And don't forget:

      www.phatooine.net
      and
      www.episode-x.com

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    18. Re:E Online's Description.... by KshGoddess · · Score: 1

      Love scenes, death scenes, action bits. Each slightly more bearable than the last. I wouldn't have gone had my ticket not been paid for by someone else.

      Not only am I *not* looking forward to episode iii, I will probably not see it, because it's what Lucas is churning out now. Drek. Pure, unadulterated drek. Like the rest of Hollywood. Perhaps Lucas once had 'it', but he seems to only be listening to his marketdroids (how appropriate!) and marketing his 'story' to 12-17 year-olds.

      There is elegance to a story that can be told to a child or an adult and be received with equal interest by both. Whatever magic well he tapped for the first movies dried up for the prequels.

      Sorry if this sounds like flamebait, but I'm rather bitter today, and 'telling it like it is' is really all I can muster.

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    19. Re:E Online's Description.... by The+Lynxpro · · Score: 1

      Why did I write certain points in ALL CAPS? I was following the example from screenplays. Screenplays tend to do ALL CAPS for characters and important pieces. I know that usually enrages online etiquette experts, but I was simply bringing attention to certain things. They were not meant as substitutes for shouting to the masses...

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    20. Re:E Online's Description.... by The+Lynxpro · · Score: 1

      *Plapatine IS NOT Darth Sideous. Palpatine is a CLONE of Darth Sideous (but doesn't know it yet).*

      I was a big supporter of this idea on theforce.net but it is not meant to be. Palpatine is extremely powerful in his trickery. He's supposedly going to wave his hand in front of his face and show the Jedi his illusion near the end of EPISODE III showing his true face; that of the decrepid Emperor last seen in RETURN OF THE JEDI.

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  4. Clone of the animatrix! by Davak · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is a clone of the animatrix idea.

    In a great galaxy, many years ago
    The desire for more money took over the universe...

    1. Re:Clone of the animatrix! by radixvir · · Score: 1

      i thought the same thing when i heard about it. they are kind of doing it early though, the next one comes out in 2005.

      does anyone remember the boba fet cartoon that came out in the 70s or 80s? that was badass

    2. Re:Clone of the animatrix! by Draknek · · Score: 1

      Except that you don't have to buy anything to watch it.

      Animatrix = DVD/Video
      This = TV program

      Sure, it's still raking in money, but at least it's the television networks, and not us, paying for it.

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    3. Re:Clone of the animatrix! by rsmith-mac · · Score: 1

      Not really; the Animatrix had a very specific anime style, and had cartoons closer to 10 minutes long. These are going to be very short 3 minute cartoons.

    4. Re:Clone of the animatrix! by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      Why, yes, it is. And all those Star Wars cartoons from the 1980s were retroactive clones.

      Sheesh. Mixing media isn't anything NEW. Do you remember the fantastic Batman Animated Series which followed the successful Batman movie? Or perhaps the watchable Real Ghostbusters cartoon which followed the movies of the same name?

      Animatrix wasn't anything NEW (and for my money, wasn't anything interesting, aside from the quality backstory of "The Second Renaissance"). The only thing it had going for it was that it came out before that horrible Matrix: Reloaded (and thus wasn't tainted by its shittiness) and that it has some quality animation directors working on it.

      Anybody who's seen Dexter's Lab, the Powerpuff Girls, or the AMAZING and trippy Samurai Jack cartoons, should be able to infer that Genndy has the goods to make a cartoon that is stylish, fun and original. Which makes me pine for the Ewoks and Droids cartoons of the 1980s...they weren't great cinema (like some episodes of Batman:AS), but they were stylish, fun and original.

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  5. Can't wait... by mooface · · Score: 1

    for these Clone Wars cartoons to be cut up and overdubbed on "Adult Swim"....

  6. Two to three minutes? by Peale · · Score: 1

    "Each Clone Wars adventure will run two-to-three minutes..."

    Nothing like blipvids to make your brain explode, eh?

    1. Re:Two to three minutes? by Peale · · Score: 1

      Er...I meant 'BlipVerts.'

  7. Great. by superdan2k · · Score: 1

    I suppose the best thing about 2-3 minute shorts is that you can only pack so much bad dialogue and so many plot loopholes into them.

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  8. How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? by wud · · Score: 1

    I loved every minute of them, i wish they would do made for tv movies based on all the starwars books out there, ive only read a few.. but they all ruled.. or even better yet, made for internet divx movies.

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    1. Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? by Licinius · · Score: 1

      One word: Yipee!

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    2. Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? by Rumagent · · Score: 1

      Simple, they sucked.

      The acting rarely rise above that seen in a dutch pr0n flick, the story would be better had they stolen the script from said pr0n flick.

      SW used to be an icon, a benchmark for all scifi. Now it is product, wrapped, sold, consumed and fed back into the sewer whence it came.

      ...no I am not bitter.

    3. Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? by W32.Klez.A · · Score: 1

      Star Wars has never been a benchmark for Science Fiction. That's like saying McDonalds is the benchmark for all restaraunts.

    4. Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      Star Wars has never been a benchmark for Science Fiction.

      That's true, but the OP said "scifi". Whether he knows it or not, ther is a distinction. Star Wars is good scifi, but not even on the radar as SF.

    5. Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? by balloonpup · · Score: 1

      What's the distinction? ::genuinely curious::

      It's been 14 seconds since I've pressed reply!

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    6. Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      What's the distinction? ::genuinely curious::

      There is of course no authoritative definition, but I think most hard core SF fans would say that scifi is low idea content; where there is no originality in plot and no logic in the science (if it's mentioned at all). The SF elements are never original and often tacked on to plots that could as easily been in historical or fantasy settings. In "real" SF the ideas are central. There are very few SF movies or TV shows, almost all non-literary mass-media is scifi.

      Scifi can be fun, as an emotional or visual experience, but it rarely provokes any reflection. Possibly the most annoying thing about scifi is that people make judgements on SF when they haven't actually been exposed to the real thing, just the bubblegum and pretty special effects of scifi, which they rightly judge as insubstantial.

    7. Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? by operagost · · Score: 1
      Summary:

      SciFi=fun SF = boring and pretentious

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    8. Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? by BillyBurrito · · Score: 1

      SF is Heinlein, Clarke, et al.
      SciFi is Alan Dean Foster, Hubbard, et al

    9. Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? by 1u3hr · · Score: 2, Informative
      Summary:SciFi=fun SF = boring and pretentious

      As I said, SF is often judged worthless by people who've never read it.

      Read Niven (his early stuff), Pohl, Neal Stephenson, just at random for some good SF. For boring and pretentious, look at some of Lucas's recent scifi.

    10. Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? by FeloniousPunk · · Score: 1

      I never knew such a "distinction" existed. Here I thought SF = science fiction and SciFi = science fiction. Now I wish I didn't know. It sounds like the sort of thing that mouth-breathing fanboys come up with.

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    11. Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? by balloonpup · · Score: 1

      Ah, spiffy. I'd never heard this distinction before, despite being rather active in the community.

      One thing does bother me, though, it feels rather subjective, sort of an "I'm better than you" classification...sort of like Trekkie vs. Trekker.

      I can understand the annoyance of judging in that fashion, though. Thanks for the clarification.

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    12. Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      It sounds like the sort of thing that mouth-breathing fanboys come up with.

      Rather, it's a way for SF fans to distinguish themselves from the mouth-breathing fanboys who've appropriated the term.

    13. Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      Ah, spiffy. I'd never heard this distinction before, despite being rather active in the community.

      I think the attempt at making a distinction became an issue in the 70s, when movie/TV-related SF started to swamp the whole genre, and all the related novelisations, three or four places removed from any original thought, started to take over the book rackspace as well.

      One thing does bother me, though, it feels rather subjective, sort of an "I'm better than you" classification...sort of like Trekkie vs. Trekker.

      Yes, it is. Just trying to define "SF" has always been a good way to start an argument. It used to be that stuff like 1984 was excluded from the genre by the literati because it was too good. Now any mystical mishmash with special effects is included. It goes to the writers of this stuff having no respect, and often no knowledge, of the genre. One reason Star Wars (the original one) was good was because of the elements it recycled from the old pulp (1900-1940) era Space Opera. As Lucas disappeared up his own arsehole in the sequels it went downhill.

    14. Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? by balloonpup · · Score: 1

      I think the attempt at making a distinction became an issue in the 70s, when movie/TV-related SF started to swamp the whole genre, and all the related novelisations, three or four places removed from any original thought, started to take over the book rackspace as well...Yes, it is. Just trying to define "SF" has always been a good way to start an argument. It used to be that stuff like 1984 was excluded from the genre by the literati because it was too good. Now any mystical mishmash with special effects is included. It goes to the writers of this stuff having no respect, and often no knowledge, of the genre. One reason Star Wars (the original one) was good was because of the elements it recycled from the old pulp (1900-1940) era Space Opera. As Lucas disappeared up his own arsehole in the sequels it went downhill.

      Yeah, I think that makes sense...there's so much of it around, now a days, most of it mass-produced. Maybe we should use the Space Opera classification so as to avoid confusion. ::chuckles::

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    15. Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      Maybe we should use the Space Opera classification so as to avoid confusion.

      Most of those who make or consume "scifi" use that term. The idea is we let them keep that and use "SF" for the real thing.

    16. Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? by pieszynski · · Score: 1

      as harrison ford put it, "george, you write this shit but you sure can't speak it". Shout it high from the roof-tops brother. I've been trying vainly to make this point to loads of people since Phantom Menace came out. Star wars are the best disengage brain movies in the world ever and i love them for it. Judge the prequels the same way you did the origonals and you go away happy. I had a similar thing with starship troopers - hated the film first time around, i'd just read the book and was so disappointed at how dumb Verhoven played it. Then i watched it pissed and loved it - still do. Now i justify liking it by painting it as a comment on (not just) the USA's gung-ho nature - but its still for the most part dumb-ass / kick-ass action movie

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  9. three minutes? by carcosa30 · · Score: 1

    Hmmm, so each one will have as much plot, humor and character development crammed into it as Episode 1 did!

    Lucas isn't getting another penny of mine after that sad commercialized ripoff.

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  10. huh? by autopr0n · · Score: 1

    I thought the cloned wariors were created by the republic, and worked for the Jedi? Thats what it seemed like from episode II, anyway.

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  11. I am ohly going to watch it if..... by eclectro · · Score: 1


    it has Jedi Master Porky Pig.

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    1. Re:I am ohly going to watch it if..... by Maserati · · Score: 1

      The new Duck Dodgers cartoons sure do rock, don't they ?

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  12. Perfect Name by use_compress · · Score: 1

    I think clone wars is the perfect name for a cartoon series that is based on a series of five movies.

  13. Wow Cartoons by DarkHazard · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wow this is just what I've been waiting! An animated Clone Wars! Lucas you genius you've done it again! I'm sure through watching 2-3 minute cartoons all the battles will be completed and the plot will be golden. I can't wait to watch the battles to see an animated Anakin Skywalker, because animated is so much better than CG and real live actors! Damn Lucas is a genius!

    [/sarcasm]

    1. Re:Wow Cartoons by lawpoop · · Score: 1

      Did you see Animatrix? It outshines the Matix and Matrix:Reloaded 100 fold. In fact, I'll bet the whole animated series will be better than Lucas' 2 new POS movies.

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    2. Re:Wow Cartoons by mbourgon · · Score: 1

      Hey, the farther away Lucas is from this, the better. Don't complain.

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  14. wow by autopr0n · · Score: 3, Funny

    Thanks a lot spolierboy.

    Not that I was going to see the 3rd movie, but if they had been any good I would have been pissed about reading this. Oh well.

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    1. Re:wow by wud · · Score: 1

      i totally didnt realize that palpatine was the emporer... what about the sith master that was instructing darth mal/doku... is that palpatine switching back and forth?? it was obvious that palpatine was gonna be corrupt, but i didnt quite grasp that he would become(or already is) the sith master. also, i thought that there was differant actors that played the emporer between empire and jedi... im getting antsy for the third movie now... either way i hope these shorts are better than the droids cartoon... or godforbid the starwars christmas special

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    2. Re:wow by Blondie-Wan · · Score: 1
      1. The Emperor's name from the classic trilogy has been commonly known to be PALPATINE since his action figure was released back in 1983/84 with RETURN OF THE JEDI.

      2. Emperor Palpatine in 1983's RETURN OF THE JEDI wears the same style robe as DARTH SIDIOUS of 1999's THE PHANTOM MENACE and 2002's ATTACK OF THE CLONES. Darth Vader is clearly the Emperor's apprentice in EMPIRE STRIKES BACK and RETURN OF THE JEDI. So common sense would lead you to conclude that Palpatine is...

      It's been known longer than that, actually - the novelization of the original movie has a prologue discussing the rise of an ambitious senator named Palpatine who eventually made himself Emperor, and that novelization was first published in November of 1976 , a good six months before even the actual original movie itself came out.

    3. Re:wow by nyseal · · Score: 1

      Or....you could have just read the book.

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    4. Re:wow by FurryFeet · · Score: 1

      Dude, guess what... the Lone Gunmen are dead!

      *ducks*

    5. Re:wow by The+Lynxpro · · Score: 1

      *It's been known longer than that, actually - the novelization of the original movie has a prologue discussing the rise of an ambitious senator named Palpatine who eventually made himself Emperor, and that novelization was first published in November of 1976 , a good six months before even the actual original movie itself came out.*

      True, but the novelization is not cannon. The novelization was ghost-written by Alan Dean Foster based upon earlier scripts for the movie. If you'll notice in the novelization, it does not mention Palpatine was the FIRST emperor, but the current one in a line of emperors. The novelization maintained Palpatine was easily manipulated; there was no hint of him being the supreme personification of the Dark Side of the Force. The novelization has Luke Skywalker blacking out and the spirit of Obi-Wan Kenobi taking over his body in order to guarantee the direct hit by the proton torpedos into the Death Star's exhaust port (Foster used this trick again in his sequel novel, A SPLINTER OF THE MINDS EYE). *On a sidenote, "Highlander 4" aped this approach with Connor MacLeod taking over Duncan's body for the final fight at the end of the flick.* And Luke's X-Wing Squadron was not Red Group in the novelization; if I remember correctly, they were Gold (whereas in the movie, that was the Y-Wing Squadron) and the Y's were Blue Group.

      And in the novelization, its "A Long Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far Far Away." :)

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    6. Re:wow by The+Lynxpro · · Score: 1

      *i totally didnt realize that palpatine was the emporer... what about the sith master that was instructing darth mal/doku... is that palpatine switching back and forth??*

      You are referring to DARTH SIDIOUS, the robed Sith Master from Episode I and II. Darth Sidious is Palpatine, who later becomes the Emperor. The hot rumor online is that in Episode III, he'll reveal himself to certain Jedi at the end of the flick and his face will change into the decrepid face seen in Jedi with a wave of his hand (if you've seen THE CRAFT with the witch changing her face, you'll know what I mean)... But that is a rumor at this point...

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  15. George Lucas' Reality Distortion Field by Eric+Ass+Raymond · · Score: 1

    Hey! It's the George Lucas' Reality Distortion Field! Similar to but legally distinguishable from the Steve Jobs' Reality Distortion Field.

  16. Troll, troll, troll your boat. . . by Salgak1 · · Score: 1
    . . . you forgot to point out the linkages between George Lucas and the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy, the Bavarian Illuminati, the Servants of Cthulhlu, the Trilateral Commission, the Rothchilds, the Queen of England, the Black Helicopters, and that creepy kid down the street who spends his life seemingly devoted to his huge collection of Star Wars Action Figures.

    Those of us in the know, know that Lucas has but a small part in Immanentzing the Eschaton. Fnord !

  17. Re:Starwars sends the wrong message, I'm afraid by isorox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    CORUSCANT-Presiding over a memorial service commemorating the victims of the attack on the Death Star, the Emperor declared that while recent victories over the Rebel Alliance were "encouraging, the War on Terror is not over yet."

    "We will continue to fight these terrorists, and the rogue governments who harbor them, until the universe is safe, once and for all, and the security of the Neo-New Cosmic Order ensured."

    It was one year ago today that the Death Star, perhaps the greatest symbol of the Empire's might, was destroyed in an attack by fanatic Rebels, who used small, single-person crafts to infiltrate seemingly impenetrable defenses. Thousands of mourners were on hand to remember and pay tribute to the victims and their families.

    "We lost our innocence that day," reflected one mourner. "I guess we thought we were immune from the kind of violence that happens in other galaxies. We were wrong."

    "I lost hundreds of buddies that day," said one teary-eyed Stormtrooper. "Guys whose only crime was trying make the Universe a safer place." Although the day was colored by sadness, the mourners found some relief in the news of a decisive victory over the Rebels.

    In an attack led by Darth Vader, Empire forces were able to rout hundreds of Rebels from a network of caves underneath the surface of the planet Hoth. "We're not sure we got them all," says a Vader spokesman. "There are a lot of places to hide in those caves. But we've delivered a powerful blow to the terrorist's infrastructure, that's for sure. Today, the Empire has struck back."

    Initial reports are unclear as to the fate of Luke Skywalker, a hero among the Rebels, who is rumored to have delivered the fatal blow to the Death Star. Skywalker, a former desert-dweller from the planet Tattooine, became a part of the Rebellion after family members were killed. Skywalker was trained by a militant wing of the Rebels, known as "Jedi Knights." Fanatical in their religious beliefs, the Jedi Knights claim to derive their power from the mystical "Force."

    It's believed that Skywalker was specifically trained by infamous terrorist O bin Wankanobi. Wankanobi, occasionally called "Ben" and easily recognized by his bearded visage and long, flowing robes, achieved near-martyr status among the Rebels after his death last year during a spy mission. His more fervent followers believe that Wankanobi lives on within them today, some even claiming to hear his voice during times of duress.

    The attack on the Death Star came shortly after the Empire's destruction of Alderstaan, a planet whose government was known to harbor terrorists. Responding to criticism over the total annihilation of the planet, Vader stated, "There is no middle ground in the War on Terror. Those who harbor terrorists are terrorists themselves. Alderaan was issued ample warning. The fight for continuing Freedom is often burdened by terrible cost." The cost of this war can still be seen today in the continuing efforts to build a coalition government on Tattooine. Longstanding animosities among the planets various ethnic groups, including the Jawas, Tusken Raiders and scattered human settlers, have been an impediment to the peace process. The Empire continues to maintain a small peace keeping force until a provisional government is finally in place.

    Much of the difficulty in fighting the Rebel forces stems from their lack of a central organizing structure. "They don't play by the traditional rules of war," complained one spokesman. "They come in all shapes and sizes, united only by their single-minded desire to destroy the Empire before it destroys them."

    The Emperor closed his comments today by stating that "the cowardly attack n the Death Star left a deep scar on the Empire. However, we will not stop fighting until every last evildoer has been brought to justice." He paused for several moments, wiping away a tear and then added with determination, "We will never forget."

    "I wish we could all just get along," said one of the mourners. "But it's hard to offer an olive branch to a cult of religious fanatics whose main tool is violence and who insist on calling us the Dark Side."

  18. Make it stop! by StarFace · · Score: 1

    Nightmares of the Christmas Special!

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    1. Re:Make it stop! by theguru · · Score: 1

      >> Nightmares of the Christmas Special!
      Actually, the animated section of the Star Wars Holiday Special was probably the only good part. It introduced the world to our favorite bounty hunter, Boba Fett.

    2. Re:Make it stop! by Pastor+Fluff · · Score: 1

      Fight the Frizzies! Film at 11.

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  19. It has possibility... by joshmoh · · Score: 1
    I must admit, I wasn't too impressed with the new Star Wars movies, but a cartoon spinoff could be interesting. I recently saw Tartakovsky interviewed on a VH1 Special about "prime time" cartoons, so I checked out a few episodes of Samurai Jack.

    Tartakovsky definately has a passion for action (yep, that's what the VH1 show said [repeatedly]). My best example is this: just listen to an episode of Samurai Jack and hear how much of it is dialogue, and how much is noises (slash, grunt) and music? (I think the split's around 25/75). Tartakovsky's action is not only constant, but it's fun to watch -- it's beautiful eye candy. Colorful, animated, comedic at times. (so don't just listen to that episode, watch it, too!).

    However, I'm an English major; when I notice a weak plot or a missing link, I get the subconscious "yellow flag." Jack's weak on plotline. Episodes are usually strung together with lots of action revolving around a weak premise. It's fun to watch, but not fun to get involved in.

    But Star Wars, on the other hand, is. ;) The animation itself should be good, but the storyline is going to need some good writers. I think here is where we'll see whether this is just a Marketing-schemed Animatrix-clone, or a quality investment.

    (Oh, and PLEASE resist the temptation to spinoff Clone Wars:2021)

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    1. Re:It has possibility... by Abm0raz · · Score: 1

      However, I'm an English major; when I notice a weak plot or a missing link, I get the subconscious "yellow flag."

      However, when I hear that someone is an english major, I get a subconscious "yellow flag" that says, "Warning: Incoming Bullshit Alert! Take evasive action!"

      Well, that or, "Yes, i would like some fries with that."

      -Ab

      ps. It's sarcasm, or, to quote Homer, "It's funny 'cause it's true..."

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  20. Stirking Similarities by Mulletproof · · Score: 1

    I saw the commercial for this... And it reminded me of South Park... but with Lightsabers...

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  21. Re:Starwars sends the wrong message, I'm afraid by wideBlueSkies · · Score: 1

    Please mod parent up. That is fantastic.

    Funny, Instightful. Either way, please mod this through the roof.

    Good show buddy.

    wbs.

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  22. Re:ahhhh who cares by Rallion · · Score: 1

    Well, I wouldn't say the whole universe collapsed. There are still all those books. I have no faith in Lucas' ability to make a decent movie anymore, however. It's amazing that I, formerly a Star Wars superfreak, no longer cares about the movies. And really don't read the books or basically do anything besides play the video games. Lucas has destroyed one of the core elements of my being.

  23. Re:Starwars sends the wrong message, I'm afraid by nilenico · · Score: 1
    Truly stunning.

    I wish I had mod points.

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  24. Re:Starwars sends the wrong message, I'm afraid by paganizer · · Score: 1

    If that was spur-of-the-moment, I'm in awe of the poster.

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  25. Re:Starwars sends the wrong message, I'm afraid by Cruciform · · Score: 1

    Sounds like you've been reading The Case for the Empire.

    Gave me a chuckle :)

  26. Re:ahhhh who cares by paganizer · · Score: 1

    I can really relate to that. I saw Star Wars 77 times when it came out when I was 15; I waited in line for The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi; over the years I've hosted several Star Wars parties, showing all 3 movies.
    Even beginning to compare this drivel to the other movies is insane.

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  27. Re:Starwars sends the wrong message, I'm afraid by isorox · · Score: 1

    It's not mine, read it a year or so back and found it floating arround usenet

  28. No clone wars on Big Screen!? by That_Dan_Guy · · Score: 1

    Ack! We aren't going to see the Clone Wars on the big screen?! I have to say, Lucas did have a choice: He could have chosen NOT to make these awful movies. Back when they were left to our imagination they were so much better. I always thought that was the purpose of NOT making them! It gave the originals a depth that is now erased.

    Sigh... Maybe Speilberg can convince him to let him make a Clone Wars movie...

    Honestly, back when I was 7 yrs old and watched Obi Wan tell Luke about his father being the greatest Star Fighter Pilot in the Galaxy during the Clone wars, that was all I could think about wanting to see. CLONE WARS CLONE WARS CLONE WARS CLONE WARS !! Gosh Darnit! I want my CLONE WARS CLONE WARS CLONE WARS CLONE WARS CLONE WARS !!!

    Yes, I feel like throwing a hissy fit now that I have discovered Lucas is yet again going to soil his own series. Somehow I had been holding out hope that Episode III would save the series, now i have had that hope dashed... Which is why I try not to pay attention to any of this stuff.

    Oh well... back to real life...

  29. The Empire is better than the Jedi by Animats · · Score: 1
    If you take this stuff seriously, it's worth rereading The Case for the Empire.

    The Jedi are kind of on the clueless side, after all. Their tactical decisions suck.

    • The Jedi are guarding a room in a tower. This is in a culture where every vehicle has antigravity. Do they have guards looking outward? Surveillance cameras? Air defenses? Nah. A couple of guys outside the door and they think they have it covered.
    • In Episode 2, the Jedi find out that someone has ordered a clone army. But the people who built the clone army think the Jedi ordered it. The obvious move would have been to just take delivery - have the army shipped over to some Republic base. Or call HQ (which they demonstrably can do) and have final payment and transport sent over. But no, they have to do something stupid and heroic.
    • When they have a ground battle, the tactics are out of Napoleon's era. That only worked when rates of fire were really low. Yet everybody is blasting away on full auto all the time.
    1. Re:The Empire is better than the Jedi by nyseal · · Score: 1

      * The Jedi are guarding a room in a tower. This is in a culture where every vehicle has antigravity. Do they have guards looking outward? Surveillance cameras? Air defenses? Nah. A couple of guys outside the door and they think they have it covered. "They dont't need to; they have the powers of the force." * In Episode 2, the Jedi find out that someone has ordered a clone army. But the people who built the clone army think the Jedi ordered it. The obvious move would have been to just take delivery - have the army shipped over to some Republic base. Or call HQ (which they demonstrably can do) and have final payment and transport sent over. But no, they have to do something stupid and heroic. "They did take delivery" * When they have a ground battle, the tactics are out of Napoleon's era. That only worked when rates of fire were really low. Yet everybody is blasting away on full auto all the time. "It's a movie for Christ's sak"

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  30. Links to Preview & random bitching by Jonah+Hex · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here are links to the quicktime trailer that's been out for awhile:
    Large - 320 x 240 Small - 240 x 180

    I've just gotta chime in that 2 to 3 minute toons are definately not enough, when I first heard of this I thought it was going to be a real cartoon not just filler. Too bad they didn't take the opportunity to use the savings from making cartoons instead of live action in order to actually flesh out the Star Wars universe. For the price of Ep1&2 they could probably turn every book ever written about SW into a damn cartoon. (Except "Splinter of the Mind's Eye" by Alan Dean Foster of course) Just wonderful, it'll probably be shoved in-between other cartoons during Toonami, meaning I won't see it until someone puts it up on one of the bittorrent or emule sites. Cartoon Yoda looks great tho!

    Jonah Hex

    1. Re:Links to Preview & random bitching by megaduck · · Score: 1

      I've just gotta chime in that 2 to 3 minute toons are definately not enough

      Actually, they are.

      I was at ComiCon (sp) in San Diego this year, and they had a panel discussion with Genndy and his team about "Clone Wars". The quote I remember is, "You can do a lot in three minutes." In order to figure out pacing, they spliced together Samurai Jack footage to see how much of an episode they could stuff into three minutes. Turns out, they could fit quite a lot. One of Genndy's strengths is being able to convey a lot of information and character development into very brief moments.

      They showed the first short not once, but twice because the audience reaction was so good. It was incredible. Trust me, you won't be disappointed.

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  31. I can't wait by yoshi1013 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I for one can't wait for these shorts, though I am with the people who wish that they would be longer.

    I think Genndy Tartakovsky was a great choice to make these shorts because he has a great handle on stylish animated action. Watching "Samurai Jack" also reminds me of a lot of anime notably "Rurouni Kenshin" with the split screen action and cinematic framings.

    In an interview Tartakovsky said that he made "Samurai Jack" largely because there weren't enough animated shows with enough action to satisfy his tastes. And thank god for that decision because the action scenes in "Samurai Jack" are enormously entertaining with their sense of pacing and their build ups.

    Since the only really interesting things that happened in Episodes I and II were the action scenes anyway I think this is definitely a good thing. We really don't need a lot of plot because it's not like that's the strongest aspect of the prequels anyway.

  32. Re:Why... by nyseal · · Score: 1

    Star Wars is not dead.....at least not to me. Deal with it.

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  33. Something Yoda must've learned... by IncredibleCrisis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...And George Lucas forgot in the years between: "Wars not make one great" --Yoda, The Empire Strikes Back

  34. I'm only going to watch it... by SixDimensionalArray · · Score: 1

    ...if in the middle of a dramatic fight scene between a squad of clone troopers and "separatists" over the "cloning laboratory", Dexter from Dexter's Laboratory jumps out with his super robot and cries "Ohhh nooo, myy labbb!!", followed by his kid sister DeeDee screaming "Dexter is a cookie!". |D

  35. Re:Starwars sends the wrong message, I'm afraid by nyseal · · Score: 1

    Please don't speak for everyone and certainly don't speak for me. Have we, as a society, actually 'progressed' to the point where we blame Hollywood for all the world's ills? The leaders of Grenada, Nicaragua, Panama and certainly not Iraq, were NOT the defininitions of a 'benevolent legal order' pattern of thought. Why do certain people ALWAYS insist that an innocent science fiction movie, based on the old 'save the princess' premise, be the cause of all world conflict? I'm not ashamed of George and the entertainment he's provided to me. JMHO.

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  36. Animated Shorts??? by naztafari · · Score: 1

    What about animated pants?

  37. Re:Starwars sends the wrong message, I'm afraid by nyseal · · Score: 1

    I can't believe that anyone would even mod this post. It's abhorrent that someone would equate the actual deaths in a real terrorist attack to that of a fictional movie. I'm sure the original author of the 'The Princess Bride' had bin Laden in mind when he wrote a classic. I know you were trying to funny but as a person who lost a friend in the WTC bombing I find your post offensive; not just to me but also the memory of a victim.

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  38. defining terrorism by cybpunks3 · · Score: 1

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    Don't even joke about this. Rebels are not by themselves terrorists. Being the underdog doesn't make you a terrorist. Firebombing a restaurant in order to kill civilians in Israel is terrorism, regardless of the political intent.

    The Rebels in Star Wars attacked only military targets.

    If the Death Star were intended to be used as an instrument of collective punishment, then you could rationalize it in the same way we rationalized Hiroshima, as a tool to end wars, but the Empire destroyed an entire planet with no weapons on it for no apparent reason other than to terrorize the galaxy into subservience.

    That would be like if North Korea decided to nuke the Swiss.

    Look, I realize in the modern world that the rules of engagement are pretty much "anything that works" and that there isn't much you can do about that, but please, get off your moral relativism high-horse.

    1. Re:defining terrorism by Jacer · · Score: 1

      Did you mean rebels in the first line, because they didn't blow up Alderan. Furthermore, We the only information that we have that said the planet was devoid of weaponry was Leia's, who was from that planet, and a leader of the resistance. Now, I can't surmise to say I know the planet was harboring weapons against the Empire (the established government) but you can't say that you can possibly trust what Leia has to say about the planet. She'd be more inclined to save it if it were strategically important to her cause.

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    2. Re:defining terrorism by hornrimsylvia · · Score: 1

      what about in jedi when the death star was being re-built all full of independent contractors?

    3. Re:defining terrorism by acehunter · · Score: 1

      but the Empire destroyed an entire planet with no weapons on it

      That would be like if North Korea decided to nuke the Swiss.


      The Swiss are neutral, not pacifists. Switzerland has a heckuva lot of weaponry - every member of the Swiss Army stores their weapons in their homes when not doing their annual 2-3 week drilling, including heavy weapons such as mortars. Check out This link on Swiss gun ownership. The fact that about 14% of Swiss households have military weaponry could be why gun crime in Switzerland is rare. You can make a strong case for saying Switzerland is peaceful, but you'll have a harder time arguing that they have no weapons.

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    4. Re:defining terrorism by spitzig · · Score: 1

      The Rebels in Star Wars attacked only military targets.
      I believe Al Qaeda's military actions against the US military are generally classified as "terrorist". The only one that comes to mind is them hitting an aircraft carrier, or something similar.

      I realize in the modern world that the rules of engagement are pretty much "anything that works"
      "All's fair in love and war" is a phrase that's been around for at least 400 years.

  39. Re:Starwars sends the wrong message - maybe not?? by nyseal · · Score: 1

    You mean like when those 'towel heads' start partying in the streets and shooting guns in the air (while wearing Chicago Cubs shirts, btw) because terrorists took down 2 skyscrapers and 3000+ people? On the other hand, you're right. I would not have wanted to be on the death star either.....I'd rather have been in the WTC on 9/11.

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  40. Re:Starwars sends the wrong message, I'm afraid by QuessFan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It doesn't have to be WTC. And is it not proper to compare Pentagon with DeathStar?

  41. Senator Palpatine IS Darth Sidious. Duh. by MsGeek · · Score: 1
    Senator Palpatine IS Darth Sidious. Don't you get it? I saw that immediately in Episode 1. Compare a Darth Sidious figurine with an Emperor Palpatine figurine with a Senator Palpatine figurine. All the same face. All the same person. The Phantom Menace, Senator Palpatine is, as Yoda would put it.

    It will be Senator/Emperor Palpatine who finishes Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader's training. Since there can only be two Sith, a Master and an Apprentice, Darth Maul had to die. However, at the end of Episode 6: Return of the Jedi, both Sith die. And thus the Balance of the Force is re-righted.

    Stupid Lucas and his lack of leet writing skillz. This all was telegraphed way back from Episode 1.

    BTW the Clone Wars shorts kick ass. I saw the first one at Comic-Con this year.

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  42. A more intelligent objection to Star Wars... by cryptochrome · · Score: 1

    ... can be found courtesey of David Brin, science fiction writer and one of the more unusual and thoughtful pundits out there. This series of articles began with an article in Salon following the release of TPM: beginning with the original article, "Star Wars Despots vs. Star Trek Populists" and its side article, an addendum in response to the emails, and a later AOTC update.

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  43. Re:Starwars sends the wrong message, I'm afraid by bobobobo · · Score: 1

    One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

  44. Re:Starwars sends the wrong message - maybe not?? by Chmcginn · · Score: 1

    Well, based on the insane size of the Death Star, I'd guess it would probably be closer to hundreds of thousands, if not millions - remember how huge the trench the X-Wings and Y-Wings flew down was? And you couldn't see that at all in the full model...

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  45. Tartakovsky's Style... Seen It before by zanderredux · · Score: 1

    Coz Samurai Jack reminds me a lot of that old PC game, "Another World", published by French Infogrames: angulous lines with a dark, somber background. Main character is essentially lone, just as of that game. Minimalistic background sound & music.

  46. Re:Starwars sends the wrong message, I'm afraid by wideBlueSkies · · Score: 1

    You got modded up anyway dude. Enjoy!

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  47. Re:Starwars sends the wrong message, I'm afraid by wideBlueSkies · · Score: 1

    Interestingly, I think in the expanded universe there was a big memorial service held on Coruscant for the occupants of the Death Star.

    So many loyal soldiers lost, fighing for the goodness of the empire.... that sort of thing.

    I haven't read this myself but have seen references to it on the SW official site.

    It's kind of cool when you think about it... seeing the movie, you wouldn't immediately think that something as horrendus as the Death Star would be mourned. However, if you start to think about that the non-clones on the DS had families, and that the Empire was capable of spinning the defeat into a propaganda event, a huge memorial actually kind of makes sense.

    wbs.

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  48. Biggest handicap to the success of eps I, II, III by vudufixit · · Score: 1

    Was the fact that the climactic portions were told in eps iv-vi.
    Filling in the backstory is usually not quite as exciting, is it?

  49. Way to go Lucas by wuice · · Score: 1

    These shorts are further proof of the stupidity of George Lucas. Cartoons are for kids. Star Wars is for jaded, nit-picky former kids who squashed all sense of adventure, imagination and wonder the day they decided they were cooler than everyone else.

    When will you learn, George?!

    1. Re:Way to go Lucas by cparisi · · Score: 1

      Huh?

      1) South Park is a cartoon and is not for kids. Same can be said about The Simpsons (to a lesser extent)

      2) Even *if* cartoons were only for kids, Star Wars was always intended for kids enjoyment, anyway.

      Disclaimer:
      When I first saw Star Wars, I was a kid. So I liked it.

    2. Re:Way to go Lucas by wuice · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I was trying too hard to be funny. :)

      It's just interesting to me that people who got addicted to Star Wars when they were kids, despite (or maybe because of) its hackneyed acting and 1930s pulp inspired plot, can get older, lose all touch with that childlike sense of wonder, and feel betrayed by the same hackneyed acting and pulp plots that they grew up loving.

      PS - I am a huge Star Wars fan. I say, enjoy things for what they are. Star Wars still appeals greatly both to the young and to the young at heart. I am very happily in that second category.

    3. Re:Way to go Lucas by cparisi · · Score: 1

      Hah!

      That's funny, because I feel the same way. I find it strange how certain people liked the original SW movies, but find the current batch too childish.

      They do not seem to realize that it is their tastes that changed, not the style of the movies.

  50. star trek cartoon by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

    does anyone remember the star trek cartoon based on the original series? they should brign that back. do they show that anymore?

    1. Re:star trek cartoon by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 1
  51. Re:ahhhh who cares by nfras · · Score: 1

    I know what you mean. I was a die-hard Star Wars fan as a kid. I bought the figures, the light sabers, everything. I bought the books (well, the first few, until they became a breeding ground for third rate plotlines by third rate writers). When I saw The Phantom Menace I was extremely disappointed. Jar-Jar, Darth Maul (when is a bad-guy not a bad guy?), continuity errors. In fact, the best thing about the whole movie for me was that the guy that did Sebulba (the voice) was an old friend of mine.
    Attack of the Clowns was a disaster. There was no continuity with the 'cannon', Yoda stopped being a master of knowledge and power and became a squirrel on speed. Lucas has killed his own creation with a mish mash of porr ideas and the desire to make as much cas as possible. I no longer care about the movies. I know I will not go and see the next one. I don't care about these cartoons as they can not make up for the shoddy work of Ep 1 & 2.

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  52. Futurama by gooman · · Score: 1

    If Cartoon Network want to spend some money, why not make some more episodes of Futurama?

    I don't care about the Star Wars universe anymore.

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  53. Re:This is great but... by Sethus · · Score: 1

    Was that ever funny? :/

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  54. I for one welcome.... by Channard · · Score: 1
    The inevitable comedy 'PSAs' that will follow each episode of The Clone Wars. Jango Fett rescuing kids from a burning house, Obi Wan telling kids why it's bad to smoke and Yoda using his force powers to lift kids out of peril... 'Candy from Darth Sidious you must take not.'


    Mind you, I'd much rather have a live action Knights of the Old Republic series.

  55. Re:wow **Now This Is Possible Spoilers!!** by Christopher+Bibbs · · Score: 1

    Return of the Jedi was the worst of the original three. I mean, Ewoks? Why not just have Teddy Ruxbin beating on the Storm Troopers? Bad azz troopers impose the will of the Emperor across the galaxy, but get the crap kicked out of them by midgets with pointy sticks.

    Give me sliced open Tauntauns and Ugnaughts any day.

  56. But will it be better than the Christmas Episode? by Lester67 · · Score: 1

    I doubt it.

  57. Uh yeah... by autopr0n · · Score: 1

    I didn't even exist in 1976. Despite that, I did know that palipitane becomes the emperor, anikin becomes vader, etc.

    What I didn't know was the chain of events that led up to it. And now I pretty much know the outline. Thanks.

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  58. Re:Genndy Tartakovsky, Samurai Jack RULES!! by boy_afraid · · Score: 1

    Samurai Jack has some of the best artistic styles going. Action, story, passion, oh, did I say action? I mean to say, AACCCCKKKKKKKKK-SHUN!

  59. Re:wow **Now This Is Possible Spoilers!!** by The+Lynxpro · · Score: 1

    *Yes I read what appeared to be an extremley early version of the Episode III script (circa 1983) and that was stated, that Anakin Skywalker falls into a pit of lava while fighting Obi Wan Kenobi. He is then rescued by a cult of crazed Sith idiots and made into Darth Vader.
    Yep, it is actually Bobba Fett and his crew, according to this script that I read, that do most of the Jedi hunting/slaughtering. Bobba Fett is obviously a far superior warrior than his father was!*

    Good points, but that script (actually, a treatment) is bogus. You are referring to "Fall of the Republic." Many fans have been sucked into purchasing it at many different fan conventions over the years. The lava pit imagery predates the bogus script by several years. There's actually an early draft of JEDI where the Emperor's throne room is surrounded by magma and Luke confronts Vader and the Emperor. Obi-Wan returns in the flesh (ala in Gandalf style) and Yoda also joins in the battle royale. Vader has a change of heart at the end, and leaps toward the Emperor and they both plunge into the magma. Quite interesting. Anyways, back to Fall of the Republic. Its completely bogus; the only thing the author got right was that the Storm Troopers are clones...

    Do a Google search for the treatment; I'm sure you'll find it on the web somewhere.

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