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Cringely's 2004 Predictions

somethinghollow writes "Cringely's 2004 Predictions are out, and he makes a very interesting claim concerning Linux: 'The SCO debacle has created a crisis within the Linux community. They pretend that it hasn't, but it has. This will come to a head in 2004 with either the development of a new organizational structure for Linux or the start of its demise. Linux has to grow or die, and the direction it takes will be determined in 2004.' With a claimed 70% successful prediction rate, you at least have to listen..."

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  1. As a member of the Linux community... by jrockway · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can say that I'm not worried about SCO. Think about it like this. If Linux becomes "illegal" it will be illegal just like all the warez and pr0n on kazaa. And God knows that nobody makes or downloads those.

    In other words, nothing will change because nothing CAN change. As long as people want to work on Linux, they will. The Internet and the minds of its members are not property of SCO. So too bad for them.

    --
    My other car is first.
    1. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by mcbridematt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And of course, who says that it won't continue to still be legal outside the U.S....

      If SCO was to launch world wide lawsuits in the unlikely case that it wins, it would be decimated by the time it finishes.

      Oh my.. what did they do to our precious Caldera?

    2. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by miu · · Score: 5, Insightful
      In other words, nothing will change because nothing CAN change.

      I agree that making Linux "illegal" would not stop people from using it. It would put an end to: comercial software, many supported and semi-supported porting efforts, corporate desktops, embedded devices, hosting companies offering Linux, etc.

      I'd say a lot can change.

      --

      [Set Cain on fire and steal his lute.]
    3. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by phatsharpie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, if Linux becomes illegal, and is in the same league as warez, mp3s, and pr0n on Kazaa, it would bode very ill for the future of Linux. Where Linux has been making tremendous headway is in the corporate server space. If it becomes illegal, it would no longer be deployed in this niche. In other words, the only market segment that Linux is gaining legitimacy.

      Sure, this is Slashdot and many people run Linux here, but the vast majority of people in the real world do not run Linux, and there is still a fair ways to go before people do, and if the OS becomes illegal in the mean time, the game is pretty much over.

      -B

    4. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by svanstrom · · Score: 4, Insightful
      In other words, nothing will change because nothing CAN change. As long as people want to work on Linux, they will. The Internet and the minds of its members are not property of SCO. So too bad for them.


      The "movement" will slow down, become more "underground", and some of the people will aim their work at other OSes rather than have to deal with a potentially nightmare(ish) legal process.

      The ones already making a lot of money out of the use of linux (routers, basestations, pvrs etc) will pay for a license, and then it's business as usual.

      A few people will start working on something that is open, free and capable of replacing Linux; the process will be slow, and initially there will be a lot of politics stoping any real work from getting done.

      At a time when M$ has started losing ground simply based on "momentum" a serious problem with Linux will be a HUGE problem for the free/open source-community; and the only company that will truly benefit from it is M$.

      Open source as an option for businesses/governments could be set back anywhere from 3-10 years.

      Things CAN change, things CAN get a lot worse than it is today...
      --
      perl -e'print$_{$_} for sort%_=`lynx -dump svanstrom.com/t`'
    5. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by Rumagent · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I find it highly unlikely that Linux will ever become warez. Should SCO claims carry any merrit, the code in question would be removed instantly - which is exactly what SCO doesn't want. They want to be able to milk every linux user from now until hell freezes over.

      It isn't going to happen of course. Linux is nothing without it's community, and who would contribute anything to SCO?

    6. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by Sivaram_Velauthapill · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If linux becomes illegal, all corporate support will be dropped. On top of that, programmers who contribute to Linux will likely be charged and sent to jail (since I predict that USA will switch to totalitarianism with a few more terrorist attacks, it wouldn't surprise me if software developers end up in jail (BTW, not trying to scare anyone but Usama bin Laden says that there will be some major attack against USA before February (not sure if this is in USA or somewhere else) and he says he will likely die in the next major operation)). It will become a risky proposition for developers to contribute to it (although other open-source software will still be released; remember that linux is just the kernel). This will definitely be a blow to linux.

      The reason warez survives (BTW porn is not illegal in many places) is because it is driven by an underground system. The vast majority of people who download warez have no idea how it works. The ripped & cracked stuff that you download (if you engage in these activities) are not released by some no-name dude at home. MP3s may be an exception since pretty much anyone has access to the music as soon as it is released and they can rip them without any difficulty. But software is not the same case. Most people can't crack the software by themselves. Simply copying the CD does not work in many cases. You need to write a loader or a crack that bypasses the copy protection system (especially for games). Only talented people can do this (which excludes the majority--even if you are a software developer).

      The warez is released by well organized groups that are fully underground. Even when the police busts these operations they hardly ever get the people involved. They only get some distributors or something. The underground pirate networks are very sophisticated and very organic. This essentially means that warez will exist forever (until software becomes obsolete--not for another few hundread years IMO :) ).

      So, even if people contribute to an illegal linux operating system, it will be nothing like warez. Warez is mostly anonymous but people contributing to linux likely won't be. It should be easy for the authorities to trace the contributors. Already governments are all over software that tried to anonymize communications--linux will be even worse.

      You say that "The Internet and the minds of its members are not property of SCO" but you are wrong. Linux WILL BE the property of SCO. It doesn't matter what people do. You may easily DISTRIBUTE linux BUT it will be next impossible to CONTRIBUTE source code without ending up in jail. So you might download the present version of linux well into the future, but hardly anyone will contribute anything new to it. Don't forget that the SPA (Software Publisher's Association) is much more powerful than the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America). People on slashdot don't realize this...

      Sivaram Velauthapillai

      --
      Sivaram Velauthapillai
      Seeking the meaning of life... @slashdot of all places ;)
    7. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by miu · · Score: 4, Insightful
      It would still only be illegal inside USA if it came to that, so I don't the rest of the world would notice much change.

      Patent and copyright recognition are the big demands the US and WTO make of countries that want to join the globalization oligarchy. I think it fairly likely that a change in the legal status of Linux in the US would have effects throughout the world.

      --

      [Set Cain on fire and steal his lute.]
    8. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      First of all, as far as I remember, there are no patent violations in the case with SCO.

      But besides from that...

      Offcourse it would have affect, it linux was declared illegal in the US, but most, if not all (haven't checked up on it) of the western world, plus a lot more, already recognizes patent and copyright, but it still doesn't mean that what any victory for SCO was based on would be legal in the other countries.

      Just because an american judge might declare something illegal in the US, does not in any way make it illegal in other countries, EVEN if they recognize patent and copyright.

    9. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by Genrou · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think there is even another point to what you say: if Linux becomes somehow 'illegal', people will shift to other free OSs. There is a lot of them being developed. That might be the end of Linux (I'm not even close to believe it), but it won't ever be the end of Free Soft or Open Source.

    10. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by bit01 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Get real. SCO did not write almost all the code in Linux, it does not own almost all the code in Linux, it cannot control almost all the code in Linux. Whatever files are found that are SCO's, if any, will be replaced virtually instantly and it will be business as usual.

      To say Linux will "become illegal" is childish and silly. Just as likely, illegal software will be found in M$Windows and M$ will have to stop shipping. Fat chance.

      ---

      It's wrong that an intellectual property creator should not be rewarded for their work.
      It's equally wrong that an IP creator should be rewarded too many times for the one piece of work, for exactly the same reasons.

      Reform IP law and stop the M$/RIAA abuse.

    11. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by miu · · Score: 4, Informative
      First of all, as far as I remember, there are no patent violations in the case with SCO.

      Point taken, but we are speaking of a hypothetical case in which Linux is declared "illegal". SCO's complaint against IBM and press releases contain all sorts of allegations about their IP being included in Linux without their consent. If a judge were to find in SCO's favor in the IBM case it could lend weight to SCO's claims that they own the "intellectual property" behind every modern OS.

      Just because an american judge might declare something illegal in the US, does not in any way make it illegal in other countries, EVEN if they recognize patent and copyright.

      The Berne Convention does require other countries to recognize copyright of other nations that have signed the covenant. The Patent Law Treaty will sow up the same sort of thing for patents.

      --

      [Set Cain on fire and steal his lute.]
    12. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by dbIII · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I think it fairly likely that a change in the legal status of Linux in the US would have effects throughout the world.
      Exactly the same effect the US encryption laws had on the rest of the world - all the encryption jobs moved overseas.
    13. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by You're+All+Wrong · · Score: 5, Insightful

      """
      A few people will start working on something that is open, free and capable of replacing Linux"?

      Start? Excuse me - *BSD anyone?
      """

      There's a more obvious answer - just rewrite the bits that are IP violating. Believe it or not there are loads of linux hackers who could probably rewrite the contentious bits in a matter of days.
      When that happens, Linux suddenly becomes legal again. You can't taint new linux with the (alleged) faults of old linux. Then again, I beleive the SCO suit has no teeth anyway.

      I think Cringely is just going for the attention, and we've given it too him. Look at the prediction "it will either get bigger or smaller". What kind of prediction is that?
      Here's one:
      Akozakie - this coming year you will either drink more or less caffeinated drinks than this past year.

      What are the chances that prediction is correct?

      Here's another one:
      This coming year at least one bear will shit in the woods.

      Cringely, attention seeking media whore, who'd a thunk it.

      YAW

      --
      Your head of state is a corrupt weasel, I hope you're happy.
    14. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by arpad · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A useful observation and one that highlights a powerful constituency, corporate IT, that would suffer if they had to convert away from Linux.

      With constant pressure on IT departments to reduce costs the built-in advantage of an operating system that doesn't have a price tag attached is inherently tough to resist. Oh sure, there's life-cycle costs to consider but hard experience in that area will win out over Microsoft-inspired "studies".

      Besides, as someone else pointed out, if Linux becomes illegal it'll only be illegal in the U.S. China, India and a slew of other countries have embraced Linux not because of the price tag but because having access to the source code is a good way to make sure the NSA or CIA (or the AFL or CIO) hasn't put in a back door.

    15. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by MoonBuggy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There are many good points made in this thread, however the one that you all seem to be missing is that the collective agreement of all the sane people here is that SCO's allegations are completely baseless and will fade away as soon as the stock takes a hit because of it. The illegality of linux would be a major blow to the OSS movement and while it would recover it would take time. Linux is not, however, illegal and we all know it. SCO are simply not going to win here.

    16. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by gantrep · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Umm, wha? The issue is not the legality of an entire operating system but rather localized sections of code in that operating system. In the worst case scenario, if it's found that this code is honest-to-god infringing, responsible community members will rewrite the areas that need to be rewritten, not that it will go underground and die or some such tripe.

    17. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by miu · · Score: 2, Informative
      Exactly the same effect the US encryption laws had on the rest of the world - all the encryption jobs moved overseas.

      That was a bit different. There were two seperate problems with crypto in the US - patents on fundamental techniques given to RSA and export controls that were never updated to reflect the advances in the state of the art.

      The export controls did exactly what you stated: drove crypto jobs out of the US. The problem of patents on fundamental techniques will soon be addressed by The Patent Law Treaty.

      Do a google search or check the WIPO page for a view of what the future holds concerning US IP laws applying to the rest of the world.

      --

      [Set Cain on fire and steal his lute.]
    18. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by bit01 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you go with the SCO claim, they claim ownership of a whole hoard of header files and other key source files.

      Software is soft. Nothing is so key that it cannot be replaced. Linux is the unix standard now (there are now more linux users than all other unix users put together) and at worst some standards may need to change. That might not even be a bad thing.

      Besides, SCO is saying that they own all derivatives of UNIX.

      Code ownership is viral? That's a new one on me!

      Linux is a clone, not a derivative, of the original Unix. This has been well documented. Since [almost] all the Linux code was not written by SCO for them to claim anything at all about this code is spurious. They might have some patent claims but those can be worked around.

      Remember, you can sue anybody for anything, but winning is another matter entirely. As has been previously discussed SCO is probably just running interference for M$.

      It's wrong that an intellectual property creator should not be rewarded for their work. It's equally wrong that an IP creator should be rewarded too many times for the one piece of work, for exactly the same reasons.

      So what's the solution?

      In the near term shorten copyright and patent terms, actually enforce the innovation condition on patents and force the patent office to deal with the fact that is impossible for a small government office to rationally evaluate all human knowledge.

      In the medium term have much more sophisticated ideas and laws about what it means to own intellectual property. I cringe at how simplistic current law is on ownership of IP. Amongst many other problems it has no recognition of the intangible inputs that go into IP (eg. a stable, supportive society), no recognition of the identical effort but differing rewards small and large organisations get for writing and selling IP (by many orders of magnitude eg. $70M to Arnie for a movie, $10K to another actor for identical effort and almost identical result on a similar movie), no recognition of the economic network effect (it has value and should be taxed), no recognition of partial ownership (IP is not discrete, whatever lawers might think) and no recognition that ideas "whose time has come" lead to simultaneous or new but un-innovative invention.

      At a minimum patents should be splittable amongst multiple near simultaneous inventors, there should be a cap on how many copies of a piece of IP can be sold before it returns to the public domain, court cases should not only be win or lose but explicitly proportional (eg. he wrote 70% of the software but she added 30% of value). The list goes on and on. Lawyers and law makers are asleep at the wheel at the moment and somebody needs to give them a kick up the backside.

      In the long term we need new legal forms unrelated to the traditional patents and copyrights to deal with this new, soft "universe" our generation is creating. Remember, software is anything we want it to be. How we structure it will have impacts on future generations we can only guess at but let's structure software and the law surrounding it (also software!) for human beings, not vice versa.

    19. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Berne Convention does require other countries to recognize copyright of other nations that have signed the covenant.

      Yes, but just because an american judge says that the copyright has been violated, doesn't mean that other countries has to obey the US judge. This must be handled by the individual countries justice systems

    20. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by bit01 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The worst case scenaerio is that SCO manange to score retrospective compensation against any commercial organisation that has made use of linux during the last decade.

      That problem applies to any software, not just Linux. Broken IP law and submarine patents means that any software may have this problem. And have you seen M$'s guarantee recently? Like most software they don't guarantee jack.

      Whats at stake is the reputation of OSS, GNU, GPL, etc.

      Again, reputation applies to any software, not just the Linux kernel. I think the market is a lot smarter than you give it credit. The dangers of M$ lockin are real, documented and obvious. The legal FUD you are talking about is just that. FUD. The market knows about FUD. Look at how they've reacted to the SCO case so far. Despite all the bullshit Daryl is generating, according to informal surveys he hasn't affected the purchase of Linux and Linux services at all.

      ---

      It's wrong that an intellectual property creator should not be rewarded for their work.
      It's equally wrong that an IP creator should be rewarded too many times for the one piece of work, for exactly the same reasons.

      Reform IP law and stop the M$/RIAA abuse.

    21. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by miu · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I agree with the sentiment that the future for IP law looks bad, but I think there are some real problems which would be addressed by worldwide recognition of copyright, trademark, and patents. Sooner or later there will have to be universal laws covering IP and the US is the only country with the clout and will to make it happen right now.

      The problem with US IP law is that it is driven by short sited lobbying from middle men who do no actually create anything. It would be a shame if the "rights" of professional descendants and RIAA were to form the basis for worldwide copyright, but it appears to be the way things are headed at this point.

      --

      [Set Cain on fire and steal his lute.]
    22. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by thales · · Score: 2, Insightful

      " I can say that I'm not worried about SCO. Think about it like this. If Linux becomes "illegal" it will be illegal just like all the warez and pr0n on kazaa. And God knows that nobody makes or downloads those."

      In the very unlikely event that Linux became illegal it would also become another Amiga OS, niche software that some people played with, but which had no future outside of a hobbist market.

      --
      Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est
    23. Re:As a member of the Linux community... by ShadowRage · · Score: 2, Insightful

      you forget that microsoft is also losing ground due to their oversaturation of the markets.

      the one hidden beauty to a capitalist market is if you manage conquer all, you'll find out that you're fucked, because competition is what keeps you in business. because you'll gain money, if you dominate, no matter how much is paid, you'll lose money, and the economy you're under will plummet in value, and you could have as many people under your thumb and basically make people slaves to your product, but your own success will be the end of you, especially considering the fact is the US economy falters, many other economies in the world falter, you'll lose power over night, no place to move your hq, and if you could afford moving at this point, and you'd be screwed because of all the people coming after you to lynch you. chaos breaks out, the end.

      sounds a bit extreme, but that's how it goes
      if bill gates was able to monopolize almost every market in the US (which he's trying to do, in technology at the moment, but we all know that)
      if he just monopolizes the tech industry, he'll falter because that's the only market his company specializes in. but that's where taking over other markets falls into place, if he manages to take over other markets (impossible in his life time, but then again, it only took less than 10 years to create a monopoly of most of the tech industry)
      it could very well be the end of him, it's like a man grasping onto dry and brittle vines as he escapes quicksand. he took all the ground out from under him, leaving a soggy mess, and grasping for something solid which only is destroyed in his grip..

      it also might be bad for us, but unlike him, we can recover.. something like this would send a message to companies showing that a company doesnt run an industry, but the consumer does, abuse or try (or force) the consumer for granted... and you'll get stung..
      it's that old saying... dont bite the hand that feeds you.

      and if linux gets deemed illegal, people can always take a "legitimate" copy of it, or the sources, modify them into "legality" and create a new kernel, and the apps that are used in linux would still be useable.

      you cant kill creativity. so those who srceam gloom and doom about linux, you're partially right, linux itself would die, but not its spirit, it would just reincarnate itself in another form.

      and that's a big IF, because sco doesnt even have a leg to stand on, and if sco does win, the case can be re-tried again in the supreme court.
      and if that happens, someone should go to the news stations and show how unfair the legal system is, that is, if the news media isnt forced to shut up about that... but still go for it, show them a juicy story about the legal system choosing to side with someone who didnt have any proof, just hype and litigation, while the side that lost, had all the proof in the world, that would look really bad for many politicians. microsoft wouldnt get stung, but sco would have all to lose in that..

      SCO would lose either way if all is done that way.
      not to mention they've already lost ground with the market that supports them... either way, when they return from their holy crusade, they'll find the community that gave them their existance wont be their to heal their wounds.

      so really, no one has anything to gain from the loss of linux. because in the long run, everyone will get screwed... linux is needed to keep microsoft on the market.. without competitors, microsoft will only be able to last so long until they falter, and take down the economy with them.
      like I said before, People who are creative and who are resilient will always come back. the economy can come back, linux can come back, but companies like microsoft that are static in their ways will not come back from their own destruction, unless they pull and IBM, and also start being more honest. (which we know, is impossible)

      I'll leave it at that.

  2. What utter nonsense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Linux has to grow or die"

    Erm, why? Linux isn't a company. If Linux stopped growing, there'd still be thousands of developers and testers working on it. Cringely evidently doesn't understand the whole ethos behind the free software world; his comment is ridiculous.

    1. Re:What utter nonsense by swb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Grow is too much of a corporate buzzword, I'd replace it it with "find a goal". The original goal of a free, stable and usable Unix workalike has been accomplished and then some, with ports to various architectures large and small.

      So what's next? Is fine tuning the VM and implementing yet another filesystem "it"? Or should there be another goal that takes it somewhere else, like a Desktop Linux initiative or something? I'm guessing that's the growth he meant, not in the "get bigger" sense, although I'd imagine he was thinking of a revised goal that accomplished a bigger user/installation base, too.

    2. Re:What utter nonsense by drfireman · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "Linux has to grow or die"

      Erm, why?


      This is just an old trick, popularized by horoscope and fortune cookie writers, applied to the computer industry. There's almost no conceivable course of events during the next year (especially given the certainty of more SCO-related headlines, at least on Slashdot) that couldn't be described as at least provisionally consistent with this prediction. If Cringely provided some analysis or insight, I guess there could have been an interesting point here. But it's really just a throw-away.

      As an exercise, review the years to date for Linux. Each year has seen some significant movement towards both growth and death. Lately there have been interesting maintainer changes, which would probably qualify as changes in organizational structure. It's hard to remember a significant period of time during which Linux hasn't confronted something that could be loosely described as a do-or-die challenge. The same could probably be said for most if not all organizations in the tech industry. If Cringely really wanted to make a non-obvious prediction, and this was the best he could come up with, he probably just didn't give it much thought.
    3. Re:What utter nonsense by HiThere · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's pretty much another "tautology" prediction. Nearly everything has to either grow or die. Homostasis is a quite difficult art to master (and software hasn't even attempted it). OTOH, as Linux is the fastest growing server platform, and a fast growing desktop platform, and a fast growing embedded platform, it's tautologically true in another way, also.

      Note: Free software can die. (Well, go into prolonged hibernation with no appearant awakening time.) All that's needed is for the maintainers to loose interest and not be replaced, while the environment it was used in evolves. Check the Debian site for oprhaned packages to see some software that's just started the long descent.

      --

      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
  3. I like this prediction... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I predicted that Microsoft's Palladium security plan, now called Trustworthy Computing, would be distrusted and stall. That looks right to me.

    Predicting that a microsoft security product isn't reliable? Predicting that a microsoft product is late?

    Cringley is THE ORACLE!!

  4. Give Me A Break... by Bowie+J.+Poag · · Score: 4, Funny



    "They like to pretend that it hasn't, but it has."

    Yeah, just like I pretend that Cringley doesn't matter, but he does.

    --
    Bowie J. Poag

    1. Re:Give Me A Break... by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Interesting

      he makes quite a bit of very spesific sounding but very fucking broad guesses. the kind of guesses you can always say that were true no matter what happened.. and which have no true meaning at all("apple will not sell as many g5's as it hopes"- that could be 'true' no matter how many g5's apple sells)

      btw, what fucking new drm schemes did hollywood come up in 2003 that were promptly broken? what?? anybody??

      --
      world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
    2. Re:Give Me A Break... by willtsmith · · Score: 2, Insightful


      The analysis seems to suggest a traditional business model. Linux isn't a business OR a product. It's a bunch of enthusiast building a shared, free toolset. The enthusiast could care less about a profit. They just want a more stable operating system.

      People seem to suggest that the ants will stop building just because you knock over the anthill. This isn't so. Despite ANYTHING that SCO does, the ants will keep building. No legal menueverings or laws will stop the ants because they are just plain smarter than anyone else in their area.

      I'm not bragging, I don't contribute. I don't even use Linux (yet). But I DO have a profound amount of respect for those who do. I do realize that these people represent the top minds in software construction who are simply doing what comes naturally.

      Linux will NEVER die. Microsoft has been spraying the ants for years and they just keep building more ant hills.

      --
      -------- -------- Support Wesley Clark for president!!!
  5. Um, what? by JanneM · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with a prediction like that is that it's largely content-free. Changing organizational structure of Linux, how, exactly? When he says "Linux", does he mean kernel development or the whole OSS community? What, exactly, is wrong, and how (and why) does it need to be changed?

    As fluffy as that prediction is, we can have Andrew Morton take over maintainership of 2.6 from Linus Torvalds this year and Cringeley can claim another success at the end of 2004.

    --
    Trust the Computer. The Computer is your friend.
    1. Re:Um, what? by pirhana · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually even the predictions with content too go wrong mostly. You remember all those predictions last time ? like Bruce scheiner had predicted "Major cyber attack" ? Meta group's prediction that Microsoft would come up with linux version of some of their software? I can go and and on with the list of predictions by well knowng guys and firms that went HORRIBLY wrong. Ofcourse some of their "predictions" get hit also(like "there will be windows in the desktop next year also"). Actually I am surprised that at the end/begining of every year slashdot and other news site spend a lot of time for these craps. These predictions are something like a "routinely bullshit" done of every year.

    2. Re:Um, what? by jimicus · · Score: 2
      I don't think we will see a change. However, what we might see is visibility.

      Many /. readers have a good idea how the kernel is managed and thus know that it's unlikely that illegal code on the scale SCO is claiming could make it in there - either through personal experience or through reading the various SCO-oriented stories.

      Most columnists, managers and commentators don't. To them, it's just some system which appears to have magically come into existence from nowhere with no visible structure. Expect the structuring to become more visible as IBM, Novell et al demonstrate how unlikely it is that infringing code could make it into the kernel.

      This isn't that hard to predict - they've made Linux a serious part of their business now and if this doesn't happen it could seriously dent their credibility.

    3. Re:Um, what? by ender81b · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think what he means is either more corprate structure or less corporate structure.

      For example, currently driver support in linux is horribly broken. Worse yet, it is horribly broken *by design*. The kernel developers refuse to freeze a driver api for the kernel (like MS did with win95/98/me and win2k/xp) or make a DDK (to my knowledge) instead changing the api every major release and sometimes on point releases. They have a point -- doing so encourages the development of open source drivers instead of binary only drivers. Unfortunatley this is one area in which corporate interests might superceede the interests of the individual kernel developers. Possible.

      Another area we might see is with regards to linux on the desktop. Progressing, yes, but not as fast as it might if - say - sun or ibm decided to make a serious commitment to linux and either extend kde/gnome/x or replace them entirely. If they come up with a desktop replacement that is far better than the current offerings they will win by default, thus placing the future of linux on the desktop in corporate hands, at least for a short while.

      I think this is what cringley was getting at -- changing linux to reflect the fact that alot of the development is funded by major corporations now instead of hackers working on their free time.

    4. Re:Um, what? by divec · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The kernel developers refuse to freeze a driver api for the kernel (like MS did with win95/98/me and win2k/xp) or make a DDK (to my knowledge) instead changing the api every major release and sometimes on point releases. They have a point -- doing so encourages the development of open source drivers instead of binary only drivers. Unfortunatley this is one area in which corporate interests might superceede the interests of the individual kernel developers. Possible.

      I think open-source drivers are good for corporate linux vendors too. It's not in Red Hat's interests to ship buggy, binary-only drivers which they can't correct, and then have their customers say, "Oh, Red Hat Linux is unstable".
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    5. Re:Um, what? by Telex4 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Whilst your points are well made, Cringely was clearling talking about the Linux kernel developer community's organisation in relation to the SCO case. Since the only remotely valid point SCO has raised is the question of validating intellectual property rights on all code submitted, Cringely must be suggesting that the community will have to become tighter about the way it accepts code.

      Of course, that suggestion is complete nonsense, since the only way the community could verify that no code was breaking any copyrights would be to have access to the source code of all of the products whose copyrights it might break. But that doesn't stop dopes like Cringely from saying it to sound clever ;-)

    6. Re:Um, what? by FooAtWFU · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I think this is what cringley was getting at -- changing linux to reflect the fact that alot of the development is funded by major corporations now instead of hackers working on their free time.

      I don't find this all that likely. Maybe that's what he SHOULD HAVE BEEN getting at... but you're giving him too much credit.

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    7. Re:Um, what? by Feztaa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Since the only remotely valid point SCO has raised is the question of validating intellectual property rights on all code submitted

      IMHO, the Linux development community already has much more stringent IP validation techniques than any proprietary shop. I mean, Linux can't just go around stealing people's IP because all the Linux code is out there in the open; if something's not theirs, it's obvious and hard to hide. A place like Microsoft on the other hand, all the code is secret and jealously guarded, so they don't have to worry if other people's IP slips in, since nobody will ever see it and nobody will find out anyway.

      I'm not saying for certain that Linux is inherently "more pure" in the IP department, I'm just pointing out that the current environment seems to encourage open source to keep better track of it's IP than does proprietary software.

  6. Linux does not have to grow. by miffo.swe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a myth from people who think like a company. The only thing linux really needs to survive is users who like it or want to change linux into something they like.

    If linux becomes oh so unpopular what is it to say that no one just takes the codebase and make something new and better? I think the cat is out of the bag now and thanks to OSS the applications barrier to entry is officially dead or atleast very small compared to how things looked a couple of years ago.

    Without the applications barrier MS has no real advantage over anything else.

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    1. Re:Linux does not have to grow. by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Exactly. It is entirely true that Linux, as an OS (kernel, whatever; it's a pointless argument) need not show the kind of year-over-year growth that proprietary software vendors like to see from their products -- there's no Linux accounting department that will axe the project if its ROI fails to meet expectations. But: there is a difference between Linux, the cool open-source geek OS, and Linux, the business-computing phenomenon that is the best chance of toppling Microsoft from its throne. The first will survive, in some form, whatever else happens. The second is in a very delicate place right now. What I hope to see happen is that with backing from Big Blue, Linux continues to gain mainstream acceptance and eventually becomes one of the default choices for corporate use everywhere from the desktop to the mainframe. But that won't happen unless it makes a few more major steps in the propaganda war. Right now it's seen as a respectable alternative ... but "respectable alternative" and "mainstream" are not the same thing.

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    2. Re:Linux does not have to grow. by swillden · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What I hope to see happen is that with backing from Big Blue, Linux continues to gain mainstream acceptance and eventually becomes one of the default choices for corporate use everywhere from the desktop to the mainframe. But that won't happen unless it makes a few more major steps in the propaganda war.

      At least for IBM customers, which constitute a huge segment of the IT industry, Linux is going to be a significant part of their world. IBM has put too much money into their Linux strategy to back off, and there's no technical reason to look for another approach in any case. Linux is already running on lots of mainframes, RS/6000s and Netfinity boxes, and as it becomes capable of seriously replacing AIX, it will do that as well. Linux on the desktop is less certain, but IBM doesn't really play on the desktop (sure, they sell PCs, but it's not a big part of their business and they aren't a big part of the PC business).

      About the only thing that could seriously slow IBM's move toward Linux is for SCO's lawsuit to succeed, and anyone who's been following the case closely knows that there's next to no chance of that.

      Disclaimer: I work for IBM, but I'm not an IBM spokesman. And my part of IBM still thinks Linux is a funny fringe OS.

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  7. The Rising Sun by imbaczek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think he's wrong about Sun. If I'm not mistaken, these guys are going to earn some really big $$$ in China.

    1. Re:The Rising Sun by ScrewMaster · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sure. Just like Motorola did. China is just like Japan in that they don't want to actually open their markets to outsiders. They want to milk off all the technology they can (by either waving dollar signs in front of naive CEO's or simply stealing what they need) and then selling it back to us to maintain the trade deficit. No, I suspect Sun has been blindsided and MY prediction is that the Chinese will take them for a ride.

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  8. It must be growing by rootnl · · Score: 3, Funny

    It used to fit on one cd, now it's 3 or more.

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  9. Non-prediction by wine · · Score: 4, Funny
    Linux has to grow or die: how can this be not true?

    I mean, isn't this like saying that the temperature tomorrow will either be lower of higher than today?

    1. Re:Non-prediction by bj8rn · · Score: 5, Funny

      He should just as well have put these predictions in quatrain.

      I. At the end of the year,
      Two choose new and one
      Will try to abuse, but
      Cause in them no fear.

      II.No man will be killed
      By means of net, but
      Many with their money
      Will be parted.

      III. The mail of lightning
      Will useless be, so Big
      Red something new proposes.
      But beware of traps!

      IV. Old things abandoned will be,
      And this many in danger
      Will certainly leave.
      A rusty knife can still kill.

      Need I go on?

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  10. Vague vague vague - and probably still wrong by adrianbaugh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If all Cringely's predictions are this vague I'm embarrassed for him that he only gets 70% of them near enough to count as a success.

    Besides which, linux has coped fine with SCO. Even if there were any infringing code (which, after all the contradictory, facile BS SCO has been spouting, I somehow doubt) it would be a very easy matter within the current kernel development framework to either rewrite the code or dike it out -- if SCO would say what, exactly, the code was. The problem isn't one of the linux development model, it's a problem with SCO and their blatant disregard for honesty, the truth or any kind of propriety. If there was some (unspecified) "other" development model used, we would still rely on SCO telling us what the infringing code was so that it could be fixed or removed.

    Believe me, if there was a problem with the linux kernel development system that meant the whole thing could be brought down using lawyers, Microsoft would have torn us apart years ago. In terms of unpleasantness (and certainly in terms of competence) SCO has nothing on MS Legal.

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  11. Off to a bad start by ozbird · · Score: 4, Funny

    Come back in 365 more days and see how I did.

    As 2004 is a leap year with 366 days, I'm guessing Cringely will get this prediction wrong...

  12. Crack head. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "I said that Sun would decline further, generally because of the success of Linux. There is no doubt that this was correct."

    "The U.S. IT industry will see some real growth except for Hewlett- Packard and Sun, which will continue their declines."

    This guy must be on crack. Sun shipped the most copies of UNIX last year, have lower prices than Dell on the x86 side, supports Linux, created OpenOffice and supported it commercially, and is doing some of the most innovating development of any company (including the open source community, though they aren't a company).

    "2) We still won't see a big example of cyber-terrorism simply because nobody has figured out how to actually kill people that way."
    What's the fun in killing people? Costing billions of dollars in damage multiple times a year, even a month, seems like a much better option if I was a terrorist. But I'm not a terrorist, I fear caves.

    "12) Wal-Mart's entry into the music download business changes everything, and will undoubtedly take the leadership away from Apple."
    I think that's a bold statement. Time will tell.

    1. Re:Crack head. by Sivaram_Velauthapill · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sun IS dying. Its sales have been declining. Its net losses have been mounting. And so on. It is switching to linux and it remains to be seen how successful that is. Companies like IBM, SuSE and Red Hat have greater market share of the linux market.

      I agree with the prediction regarding Sun Microsystems for a few reasons. First of all, I don't think the CEO of Sun is that great. In fact, I think he isn't very good. He reminds of the CEO of a company I used to work for, Motorola. Both CEOs seriously fall behind the competition and lack any insight. Second, Sun will have a tough time because it is caught between two things: hardware and software. Traditionally, its revenues have been from hardware, with software acting as a cash cow. Right now, it will have a hard time. Does it start selling Intel hardware (in which case it won't be making money off that)? Or does it go with software (which it isn't familiar with)? It looks like it is leaning towards software (with its Java Desktop System (which has little to do wiht java)). It remains to be seen if it can compete with Red Hat and Novell, among others.

      What's the fun in killing people? Costing billions of dollars in damage multiple times a year, even a month, seems like a much better option if I was a terrorist. But I'm not a terrorist, I fear caves.

      Terrorists don't live in caves--at least not most of them. In any case, I haven't read the article but terrorists don't (and won't) use cyber-terrorism because that is not their goal now. Groups like Al-Qaida don't target economic targets right now. All of their targets have been symbolic (warship, embassies, WTC, Pentagon). They may switch to economic targets in the future but we don't know. If they really wanted to cause massive economic hard, they domn't need the internet. They just need to blow the US stock markets. That will cause TRILLIONS of damage! Since financial institutions (like the stock market) are the heart of capitalism, any damage will have massive impact.

      As far as the online music sales thingie is concerned, I don't really have a strong opinion yet. A lot of people are buying songs but I'm not sure if that is a long term thing or a short term fad.

      Sivaram Velauthapillai

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  13. Prediction 1 - he doesn't know games programmers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Prediction 1: So no-one knows how to write games with the Cell processor? He could have made the same claim for the PS2's VU units yet I see no lack of PS2 games. There wasn't even a noticeable delay while games programmers learnt to use it!

    The rest of (1) is hardly a prediction, unless 'Microsoft will carry on as normal' is an earth shattering revelation.

  14. I like Cringely, but... by Ransak · · Score: 4, Insightful
    His predictions are the equiv. of me saying 'I think water will be wet next year.'

    3) Despite new anti-spam laws, we'll still be plagued with unsolicited commercial messages, especially using Internet Messaging protocols.

    Sorry, anyone with an Inbox and a clue could tell you this. Vast amounts of spam come from outside the US boarders, where spam laws in the US mean squat. I think he's right on the money with this one though:

    The more vague the predictions, the more likely they are to not be wrong, you know.

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  15. Those are not predictions, but observations by lastberserker · · Score: 2, Funny

    Check #3, for example, we _know_ MSR is working on this (there was a story here recently). Or #4, which is simply general trend. #7 is a BS: "Someone is going to come out of this a big winner. I just don't know who it is." Most of the rest are the same, including #15. Gee, tell me more, old toad ;-P

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  16. cyber-extortion by tuxette · · Score: 2, Interesting
    We will, however, see dramatic growth in cyber-extortion and plain old theft.

    I think this could have been predicted for 2003.We've already seen examples of cyber-extortion here (the medical transcriptionist in Pakistan), and I've seen lots of other reports of cyber-extortion attempts here and there, especially in the last 6 or so months. And this is the stuff that is actually reported in the news! I wonder how much of it goes unreported...

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  17. Some predictions misplaced by mj_1903 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I *shock horror* read the article and low and behold he has some pretty strange predictions:

    1. The PS2's VU was pretty hard to write software for, but who is winning the market right now?
    2. Nintendo have not announced what proecssor they are using, so how can it be the Cell processor? Who said that Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft were releasing now consoles this year? At this time, they are all gunning for 2005.
    3. Apple are not going to release flash iPod's, instead they are going to release HD based iPod's with 2 or 4gb capacity. This is a solid rumor.
    4. Apple have made no announcement of how many G5's they want to sell, so anything is not what they are hoping.
    5. Chances are the G6 will be released next year as the Power5 is being released next year.
    6. Linux die? How? It's not a company, its a conglomerate of programmers. It's marketshare is rising, not falling. Case in point, OSS such as Apache is only growing in popularity.
    7. How is Microsoft continuing on their normal ways a prediction? It's a fact.
    8. Walmart are going to have some serious issues with their online music store simply because its not easy to use. I agree that Apple at this rate will not be in the lead though.
    9. The Burst case is interesting, but I can't see Apple and Real being punished if Microsoft loses/or buys Burst.

    All up a rather silly set of predictions that is all too vague or missing facts. I can see why he gets 70-80% success.

  18. rubbish by servies · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just as most 'analysts' the predictions he makes are just so damn global they can mean anything or they're extremely obvious...

    just giving the numbers here and my comment:
    1) Ofcourse MS will. That's what they already wanted to do with the Xbox and failed (IMO) and they still are doing this... Geeez what a prediction...

    2) Do I really need to say anything about this... It's pure bullshit...

    3) Geez don't we already know this...

    4) Geez, all these companies already told this to everybody who wanted to hear this... My my what a prediction...

    5) Rubbish...

    6) I predicted this at the start of the SCO case and everybody knew this from the start...

    7) Nonsense...

    8) Can't comment on this because I don't live in the USA.

    9) I expect HP to grow, Sun will stabilize and Dell will indeed start to compete in new markets as they have done every year the last 2 or 3 years...

    10) Can't comment on this one as I don't know the situation.

    11) Geez, ofcourse WiFi will grow... and ofcourse progress and service will be spotty... and ofcourse a new business model won't work...

    12) Can't comment on Wall-Mart as I can't buy there etc and I'm not living in the USA...

    13) Can't comment on this as I don't know anything about Apple.

    14) Geez... how surprising. But the strange thing is: all the candidates will be against outsourcing because it's bad for the number of jobs in the USA... So don't expect to be able to pick the winner on this point...

    15) That's something they already do for the last 4 years... Nothing new here And ofcource Bill Gates won't get the Nobel Peace Prize... Which idiot would expect that...

    Come back in 363 more days and see how I did ;)
    He's just like the gypsy at the local fair... obvious things and then claiming he thought it up...

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  20. My 2004 Prediction by graveyardduckx · · Score: 3, Funny

    I predict 2004 will be different than 2003. I also predict that my prediction will be right. Now why don't I get coverage when my predictions are more accurate?

  21. Ooh, prescient by Rogerborg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What else does he predict? The stock market will either rise or fall? The Republican candidate or the Democrat candidate will win the Presidential election? We'll be damned if we do, and damned if we don't?

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  22. Wal-Mart vs. ITMS by Fortunato_NC · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No one's talked about it yet, but I find his most interesting comment to be the one about how Wal-Mart's new online music effort will displace the iTunes Music Store as the number one retailer of online music files.

    I disagree with this, for a few reasons. One, they're under tremendous pressure from their conservative customer base (lower-income white America) to adhere to a "moral standard". Have you ever bought a CD from Wal-Mart? They only sell "clean" versions of much of the type of music that would be bought online by the younger Internet demographic. If I was going to buy an electronic version of "Straight Outta Comptom", I sure as hell wouldn't buy it from Wal-Mart's online music store.

    Second, online music is not an area that plays to Wal-Mart's competitive strength. Not many people think of Wal-Mart as a successful "clicks and mortar" e-commerce company. Wal-Mart makes its money by selling cheap consumer goods at rock-bottom prices. So rock-bottom, that their smaller competitiors can't compete, and are forced out of the market. But digital music is a much more level playing field. Apple can work with its label partners to lower its prices to match Wal-Mart's. But honestly, I don't think they have to. The integration with iTunes, the iTunes product on both Windows and OS X, and the huge mindshare that Apple enjoys make for an ability to sell their music at an 11 cent premium over Wal-Mart if they want to.

    Third (and last, I'm getting tired of typing) - can Wal-Mart sustain their price advantage? Or is it like buymusic.com, where the few tracks that were actually available for their advertised 79 cent price were obscure tracks that you wouldn't want, and as some artists complained, weren't legal anyway? Unfortunately for the consumer, I think 99 cents a track is where the industry wants the price for most songs to be.

    I guess that my main point is that I just don't believe Wal-Mart is going to steamroll over the music industry with a business plan of "We do what they do, just a bit cheaper." Too many other companies have already established beachheads, and they're actually innovating. My predicition is that Wal-Mart abandons digital music within 18 months.

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    1. Re:Wal-Mart vs. ITMS by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think you are incorrect on a couple of points:

      Closed Format: ITMS uses AAC (an open standard) with the least onerous DRM scheme. Walmart uses a closed standard with a very onerous DRM scheme. AAC is not limited to Apple computers. Indeed, all a Windows computer user need do is install iTunes and they have access to iTMS and AAC.

      Market Demographic: I agree that this is not as simple as "low-income white Americans", but again, assuming this is a large part of their customer base for the sake of argument, you should ask, "Who is more likely to buy music downloads? Low income white Americans or owners of expensive MP3 players?"

      Walmart might be good at selling commodity products, but music has not yet fully made the transition to a commodity, and I doubt it ever will. Walmart can force the makers of the products it sells to lower prices, cut overhead, etc., because of the commodity nature of those products. Walmart can make its suppliers toe the line because they can always go elsewhere. Walmart does not have the same leverage over, say, Pearl Jam. They cannot dictate terms in the same way.

      When we see music being bought and sold by the byte at the Chicago Board of Trade, then we can call it a commodity. And I'm not saying that something like this can't happen. Some subscription models come close already. I just think there is a big difference between a home appliance and music.

      That being said, Walmart probably is a threat to both iTunes and Netflix, due to it's size and bargaining power. However, this threat depends on execution, and as has been pointed out, Walmart's core competency lies elsewhere. It's not a given that Walmart will kill either Netflix or iTunes.

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    2. Re:Wal-Mart vs. ITMS by DannyO152 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If I understand it correctly, Wal-Mart's core competency is using its size to negotiate down the costs from distributors and producers. I suspect that if Wal-Mart is offering their music for less, they are paying less to the record companies. The nexus for the agreement may very well be the more restrictive nature of the consumer's use of the Wal-Mart music files. There may even be co-op money for Wal-Mart from Microsoft for promoting the WMA format.

      As this is the entertainment business, I'll just point out that when HBO started to look like it could be a success, other companies started movie channels. And within a few years all the major film studios had exclusive deals with the channels for the right to be the first channel to show the studio's releases. Something similar happened when others saw MTV's success and they followed behind. Deals for 90 day (IIRC) exclusivity proliferated between the channels and the record companies. I wouldn't be surprised if exclusivity doesn't begin to appear this year, and not to Apple's advantage.

    3. Re:Wal-Mart vs. ITMS by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think Walmart's core competency is not so simple as that. They are primarily a brick and mortar store. Near as I can tell, they haven't gotten rid of their online competition.

      Just anecdotally, I have heard that Walmart's selection of music priced under 99/song is quite limited. Other complaints I have heard is that the shopping process is complicated, and that the DRM terms are inconsistent and confusing. So far, they don't seem to be executing so well.

      I don't think your cable TV examples prove your point. HBO is still going strong. In fact, it might still be considered an industry leader. Exclusive deals weren't new with HBO or cable either.

      Exclusivity has appeared already. iTMS has tracks from various artists that are exclusives to the store (I'm sure you can find them on the p2p networks soon after, of course). As I said, these sorts of promotional deals are nothing new. (I recently purchased an exclusive single from iTMS: The White Stripes "Black Math".)

      Walmart succeeds best when selling commodity items, as you mentioned. True, they are big and they can negotiate based on that, but currently Apple has the highest volume in download sales, which also brings something to the table.

      Another thing to keep in mind is that while the entertainment industry is mostly ruled by bean counters and lawyers, it is still an ego driven and bullshit fueled business. Who do you think has a better chance of successfully bullshitting someone, Sam or Steve?*

      *If you've never been within the radius of the reality distortion field, you've got to experience it. Come to MWSF or the WWDC later this year. If we meet up, I'll buy you a glass of kool aid.

      Anyway, I'm not arguing that Walmart and MS don't present a threat to iTMS or Netflix. I agree with you there. I just don't think it's a foregone conclussion. First-to-market advantage is a big deal, and first-to-market-done-right is a huge deal.

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  23. Cringley's predictions are self-determining... by fastidious+edward · · Score: 5, Informative

    For example: 1. A year ago, I wrote that HP/Compaq would continue its long slide to oblivion, and if you look underneath the corporate numbers, you'll see I was correct.

    SO the corporate numbers are OK then, their stock is up over the year (reference) so I'd say so corporate numbers sure are decent, then what basis is there for saying they are performing badly? Perhaps if I refer to an unspecified quantity I can make up a story about it too. Like, er, Dell will start slide into oblivion, which if you look below the corporate numbers (that is below profits, penetration, users, sales, turnover, employment, etc) you will see I am correct. What was I correct about? Well, ask me in a year and I'll tell you.

    2. I predicted that Dell would continue to grow at the expense of its competitors

    The home/business PC market is getting mature, so if any company grows it is largely at the expense of its competitors. Dell were growing market share, one doesn't have to be a genius to see that a lagged deterministic trend will continue, it is more insightful to look at the rate of change that growth is having, but he didn't do that.

    3. I wrote that Linux would continue to give Microsoft fits (that's true) and that Microsoft would be forced to compete on quality. Pick a low quality (costly) product. It comes under pressure from a free high quality product. The low quality (costly) product comes under pressure. A 3rd grade kid could draw that line of reasoning.

    4. I said that Sun would decline further, generally because of the success of Linux.

    (Fastidious comment, which of these Suns did you mean?) I can give a little credit to this since unlike the other 'predictions' it was not already written mud, though perhaps it was written in mud ready to be fossilised. Though looking back to financial numbers, Sun Microsystems doesn't seem to have done too bad.

    5. Here is one I got wrong. I predicted that China would standardize on Linux running on MIPS hardware.

    OK, so he stopped predicting the sun would rise tomorrow and got on with some original thinking. And failed, though it was a nice idea.

    6. I was wrong, too, in my prediction that Microsoft would force Intel to adopt AMD's 64-bit Opteron instructions.

    Hard to see this happening at the time, but again an interesting idea.

    7. I correctly predicted the Mac G5 computer line

    This had been announced by Apple already.

    8. correctly predicted that V.92 modem development would stall, but that nobody would care Or perhaps saw nobody cared about V.92 (DSL+ is where the action has been for the past 3 years), so predicted it would stall. Nice insight.

    9. I predicted that Microsoft's Palladium security plan, now called Trustworthy Computing, would be distrusted and stall.

    It was already distructed. Well done on the stalling part, it was just wishful thinking for me :).

    10. I wrote that Hollywood would come up with new digital rights management schemes that would be promptly broken

    An encrypted system where many have the same key is a system that has a key for anyone. Always been like that, always will

    OK, so I could go on, but his 'predictions' are a combination of the obvious (with a little critical thought) and the failures (when he gets beyond stating the obvious he usually gets it wrong). I do not trust this person's predictions.

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    1. Re:Cringley's predictions are self-determining... by bobKali · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And they're so vague. "Linux has to grow or die..." Umm, isn't that the way of everything? In a dynamic world (this world) things change. Change usually is either beneficial or detrimental - and this can be oversimplified into "grow or die." Since Linux has been growing since 1991 there's no reason to expect it to stop unless it ceases to be.

      Now what might be impressive would be if he predicted the direction of growth and got that right - but he's not even predicting that.

      I like his regular columns much more than his "predictions"

    2. Re:Cringley's predictions are self-determining... by Spoing · · Score: 2, Interesting
        1. 3. I wrote that Linux would continue to give Microsoft fits (that's true) and that Microsoft would be forced to compete on quality.

        Pick a low quality (costly) product. It comes under pressure from a free high quality product. The low quality (costly) product comes under pressure. A 3rd grade kid could draw that line of reasoning.

      You would think that, though my managers still think OSS isn't ready for prime time. Most don't realize that Apache, Tomcat, and a variety of other pieces used on our 'flagship product' (don't ask...) are OSS! The looks and speachlessness that occurs when I point this out is amazing. They really don't get it...and these are the smart people.

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    3. Re:Cringley's predictions are self-determining... by arivanov · · Score: 2, Interesting
      5. Here is one I got wrong. I predicted that China would standardize on Linux running on MIPS hardware.
      OK, so he stopped predicting the sun would rise tomorrow and got on with some original thinking. And failed, though it was a nice idea.

      Actually, the process has stalled and was nowhere as fast as people thought, but China is still pretty much moving in that direction. So it is too early to say. So the wrong part here is that he sais that his predicttion failed. Also it is not MIPS(tm). Some parts of the instruction set and paten encumbered parts of the ISA are missing

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    4. Re:Cringley's predictions are self-determining... by chfriley · · Score: 2, Informative

      >>7. I correctly predicted the Mac G5 computer line
      >This had been announced by Apple already.

      Apple didn't announce the G5s until the WWDC, which began June 23 of 2003, so, no, Apple had NOT announced it in January 2003. It had been scheduled for May, but was pushed back, part of the reason for the push back (reportedly) was to intro the G5

      Just fyi.

      Yes, people *knew* it would come eventually, but it hadn't been annouced by Apple until half-way through 2003 and few people thought it would be announced as early as it was.

    5. Re:Cringley's predictions are self-determining... by fastidious+edward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Purely regarding financial methodology, rather than Sun in specifiecs:

      Profit and loss accounts refer to the past, not the future. If a company did restructuring and trimmed poor divisions it may make a short term loss but would benefit in the long term.

      The price of a stock refers purely and simply to its supply and demand, i.e. where people are happy to buy the stock and where people are happy to sell.

      So the price if a function of many agents' opinions of the future price and earnings of the said company. This is inclusive of technical trading, but I won't complicate going there.

      The stock price does matter as it is the quantification of qualitive opinions regarding the company. If you don't think a company is priced well, put a massive short position on the company and report back sometime in the future. I look forward to seeing you on it.

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  24. What's wrong with POP3? by Inoshiro · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "As for old fashioned spam, it will continue to cram our inboxes, making a good business for third-party anti-spam products and services while making e-mail pretty much useless for reliable communication. Microsoft will see opportunity here and propose new protocols to replace SMTP and POP3."

    Why replace POP3 (and IMAP)? These work fine and are completely separate of the SMTP delivery engine. The smart thing to do would be to replace SMTP MTAs with something that does server-to-server authentication, and leave POP3 and IMAP for the MUAs.

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  25. I don't see why. by rolfwind · · Score: 2, Redundant

    All we have to fear is fear itself, AFAIK SCO has produced nothing worthwhile to back up it's claims.

    I wish the SCO would just die as it deserves, a quiet death without rousing the entire roost with it's antics. It's like believing the boy who cried 'Wolf!' after the fiftieth time..........

  26. Technogensia and the Fate of Free Software by ChaoticCoyote · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Linux development may indeed change, regardless of SCO. Or, to put it more accurately, "free" software development must change from a pure technocracy if it is to wrest control of the consumer space from Microsoft. Now, I realize (and respect) Linus's lack of concern about market share and other trappings of competition; I use Linux precisely because I like the technology associated with it. I am also a technoscenti, which means that my needs are quite different from those of most people.

    Technical excellence can be attained in conjunction with meeting the needs of mundane users. "Free" software has created its own hierarchy of haves and have nots, based on technical prowess; the lords of free software turn up their noses and snort when confronted with needs of the commoners. Able to exist on a purely philosophical level, the technogensia fail to see that free software has reached the edge of its current potential. Apple, Sun, and Red Hat will take "free" software to the next level, where it accomplishes solid, practical tasks for real people.

    So in a sense, Cringley is correct: free software (which he erroneously lumps under "Linux") will change, or it will be replaced in the greater world by something more attuned to the needs of the commons.

    1. Re:Technogensia and the Fate of Free Software by Telex4 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Able to exist on a purely philosophical level, the technogensia fail to see that free software has reached the edge of its current potential. Apple, Sun, and Red Hat will take "free" software to the next level, where it accomplishes solid, practical tasks for real people.

      I don't accept that; your three examples are more different than you make out.

      Apple are a good example of a company that has built almost all of the important user interface stuff themselves, and tacked it onto a Free Software underbelly.

      Sun are a good example of a company that has taken a whole Free Software system, and put a lot of money and work into various Free Software communities that are central to that system (most notably GNOME) and have then packed it all into a Sun-branded commercial OS.

      RedHat are a good example of a company that is right inside the Free Software world, developing lots of different component parts and being fairly agnostic about which parts they use, giving the choice to the user instead whilst selecting certain defaults. They have both a community system (Fedora) and a commercial branded system (RedHat).

      Excepting Apple, almost all Free Software distributors absolutely rely on the good work done in the Free Software community, often aided by themselves, in making the software appropriate for "real people". This doesn't seem to be changing; rather, those projects that really show potential in the user interface world are experiencing huge increases in corporate investment, usability research, bug fixing, etc. GNOME, KDE, Mozilla and OpenOffice are all good examples here.

      I would predict then that in 2004 we sill simply see this trend continue, with more investment, both in terms of money and work, in a dozen or so userland applications.

    2. Re:Technogensia and the Fate of Free Software by swillden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Free" software has created its own hierarchy of haves and have nots, based on technical prowess; the lords of free software turn up their noses and snort when confronted with needs of the commoners.

      Poppycock, rubbish, balderdash and all those other silly-sounding patronizing pejoratives.

      Give me an example of free software developers "turning up their noses" at the needs of the commoners. Free software developers work on what they're interested in. Some of them are interested in making things easy and usable for common users (the KDE and GNOME teams, OpenOffice developers, Mozilla developers, hotplug developers, Knopper, etc.) and some of them are interesting in making the underpinnings fast, reliable and secure (kernel developers, tools developers, apache developers, and some subset of all of the people in the first list).

      Okay, so Linus and company aren't focusing their efforts on newbie-friendly GUIs, but why should they? It's not their area of expertise, or interest. Others are doing that. You may be unhappy about the rate of progress but unless you provide someone a reason to care about your opinion, you have no rational reason to think your ill-defined expectations will be met.

      Apple, Sun, and Red Hat will take "free" software to the next level, where it accomplishes solid, practical tasks for real people.

      More crap. Apple's software is far from Free -- at least the part of it that is for "real people". If you want commercial, by all means buy commercial! Sun and Red Hat (and SuSe/Novell, and Mandrake, and...) are just packaging up the same free software that everyone else has. They're not really building user-friendly solutions on top of the Free software so much as riding the same usability wave everyone else is (though they do contribute a lot to the development of Free software -- excepting Sun, of course).

      No, the main thing that Sun, Red Hat, etc. are providing isn't software, it's services. Those services do in fact help make the software "accomplish solid, practical tasks for real people", but it's hardly reasonable to criticize the developers because they want to write software rather than provide services.

      What's next, are you going to criticize your garbage man because he doesn't come in your house and empty all the trash cans? Or clean your house?

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  27. Linux illegal? by Elektroschock · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I would rather suggest that SCO might be subject of criminal investitagtion. Financial fraud is criminal. Sco almot infringed every possible business rule. Spreading wrong news about "claims" is anti-competitive and sending FUD letters to customers is dirty policy.

    so it depends on the strength of US law and jurisdiction what SCO and its CEO fill face.

    Everybody knows that they are nuts, except the capital market and mainstream journalists. I don't see any reason to worry.

    -- Now Saddam could tell where his WMD are hidden :-)

  28. Poor stuff by heironymouscoward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not impressed. Predicting the next 12 months on the basis of "more of the same" is not a skill. The skill lies in understanding the underlying trends and extrapolating these.

    SCO impacting Linux? Has Cringely even looked at the market? SCO's attacks on Linux have simply turned up the volume on the debate, they have not actually changed the fundamentals.

    As far as I can see, the fundamentals of IT are:

    1. Ever cheaper technology, including and especially software technology. Software drops in price just like hardware does, but it's starting to be a significant driver.

    2. Ever worse infestation by parasitical software - trojans, spyware, worms, viruses - and the use of this by spammers. This is no longer a sideshow, it is one of the main drivers.

    3. Global competition to lower costs, especially IT costs. Few firms can avoid competition, one way or another, by companies halfway around the globe.

    It all adds up to a big problem for Microsoft and a significant advantage for free/open software, especially Linux.

    Microsoft has tried to sabotage Linux through a variety of strategies, and each time they have failed. 2004 will see the start of serious competition, or serious defeat.

    I predict that Microsoft will produce a "Windows Classic" package in 2004 that combines a cheap Windows OS and Office, for $49.95, or less. This is about the only way it can compete with offerings like Xandros Desktop, which provide a very smooth and complete package for around this price.

    Price, security, simplicity. C'mon, it's so obvious that it hurts to have to say this.

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    1. Re:Poor stuff by RoLi · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I predict that Microsoft will produce a "Windows Classic" package in 2004 that combines a cheap Windows OS and Office, for $49.95, or less.

      When they do that, they would lose probably more than half of their revenue and Bill Gates' and Ballmer's stock would become a lot less worth than it is now.

      I predict Microsoft will continue to do selective discounts, or to put it in another way: To offer great rebates to possible defectors while ripping off their loyal userbase.

  29. How can I believe predictions ... by GreatBallsOfFire · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... from someone who says "Come back in 365 more days and see how I did" meaning come back in one year and be wrong? 2004 is a leap year.

    Seriously, there are a few predictions there that are simply ludicrous, and others are nothing more than simple set up for saying nothing. The linux prediction that everyone here is most interested in is a hollow, say nothing prediction.

    It is best summed up by the last sentence "Linux has to grow or die, and the direction it takes will be determined in 2004." Talk about hollow predications. Linux is an active project, so it must do something. At any moment in time, and with every decision, Linux will take a positive or negative direction simply because it is active. Since Cringely's prediction contains both outcomes, he can come back next year and claim success. That is, of course, unless Linux stagnates, which isn't about to happen.

    Shoddy journalism. No more or less. Ignore the article and save time, unless you believe in that sort of thing. If you do, send me all your money and I'll sell you this great bridge connecting Brooklyn and Manhattan ...

  30. Doesn't matter by batura · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Even if SCO is found to be correct in this train wreck, it doesn't really matter. IBM would likely buy the company and properly release Linux from all commercial licenses. IBM has way to much invested into open source development and deployment to let anything else happen. End of story. They don't want another company with another monopoly over an OS.

  31. My only prediction is that he will claim 70% again by dyfet · · Score: 2, Insightful

    From what I read, it seems that any vague set of facts can be sufficient for him to validate a past prediction. I suppose if Linus left Transmeta for OSDL this year rather than last, he would be able to have claimed his 'prediction' on Linux kernel development reorganization in 2004 had been met!

    My only prediction is that at the start of next year he will again claim to be at least 70% correct. But there are some useful trends suggested that are worth considering. I now see why the start of the new year is always such a low moment in readership.

  32. Terrorism by Ann+Elk · · Score: 2, Interesting
    From Cringely's article:
    2) We still won't see a big example of cyber-terrorism simply because nobody has figured out how to actually kill people that way.
    Terrorism is more than just killing people. It's about control; about one group forcing its will upon another. Control can be achieved by threats of physical violence. It can also be achieved by destroying economies and "ways of life". (Exactly who are the "terrorists" is left as an exercise for the reader.)
  33. I don't think Linux driver support is broken by anti-NAT · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In the Linux 2.6.0 kernel, under the "drivers" directory, there are currently 2218 ".c" files :

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    > pwd /usr/src/sys/kernel/linux-2.6.0/drivers
    > find . -name "*.c" | wc -l
    2218
    >
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    Being very conservative, let's say each hardware device supported by Linux requires two .c source files. Using that assumption, that calculates out to 1109 open source drivers in the current Linux kernel. That is a lot !

    Of course, most drivers are only contained within one .c file, and in a number of cases, multiple devices from different vendors may be supported by a single .c file, as the they have used underlying chipsets from the same third party. So the current Linux kernel would support say 3/4 of that 2218 figure, or 1663 devices, which all have fully open source drivers. The figure is probably significantly higher, possibly even greater than the 2218, but we'll stick to 1663 for this example.

    Let's divide that 1663 devices by 10 to get the number of manufacturing vendors. Of course, the figure is likely to be much lower than 10 devices per vendor, probably 5 or less, maybe with an average of 2. However, let's assume 10. That indicates that 166 vendors have 'got' the open source idea, and published their programming specs, or even contributed GPL licensed drivers.

    Linux driver support may appear to be broken because the two major graphics card vendors don't publish programming specifications. However, 2 vendors holding out, compared at least 150 or more who get open source, doesn't make Linux driver support broken.

    The Linux development model has succeeded, as has the Linux philosophy on driver development. It is only the few, high-profile "bad apples" that make it appear to have not been successful.

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    1. Re:I don't think Linux driver support is broken by tigersha · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Thsw problem is the high profile "bad apples" are exactly those compaies that are on the cutting edge with some really advanced hardware which they would like to keep out of the hands of their competitors.
      NVidia and ATI for example.

      There is not much sense in putting any IP on the programing info for an 8 year old SCSI chipset, and this is where most of those 1000s of C files are.

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  34. how's the weather up there? by twitter · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I am also a technoscenti, which means that my needs are quite different from those of most people. ... "Free" software has created its own hierarchy of haves and have nots, based on technical prowess; the lords of free software turn up their noses and snort when confronted with needs of the commoners.

    What planet do you live on? On my plannet there's a guy named Knopper who made a CD that runs and self configures on just about any computer without taking any hard drive space. Knoppix has two sets of replacements for the world's most popular software. It sets up with a KDE 3 desktop that has proved itself just as easy to learn and use as Windoze XP, but it also has Window Maker and other choices. Networking is autoconfigured and it comes with two browsers that block popups and have tabbed browsing. It also has a choice of superior email clients that are not liable to root your machine and come with spell checkers. If that's not enough for the average user then comercial software vendors, such as Microsoft have failed misserably. Because there's so much space on a CD, Mr. Knopper decided to put two office productivity suits in. The Open Office suite not only reads Microsoft's file formats, it comes with a database replacement for access. Microsoft charges lots of money for it's little productivity suite and charges even more for the "pro" version that has the database. Because users like choice, Knoppix also has KOffice, yet another productivity suite that's easy to use. Oh sure, Knoppix comes with power toys, like a compiler, GUI IDEs, disk and network management tools and other geeky things. All of this on one no cost CD that configures itself. Is that meeting the needs of "mundane users"?

    I dare you to compare that with commercial offerings. Show me a "mundane user" who can wade through the multiple CD, floppy and reboot process that is a Windoze install. How much did that cost, $150? Oh sure, "the computer comes configured." That works great until Bill turns the upgrade crank two years later. Then the crap breaks and the user is stuck. Tell me a happy story about restore disks and I'll tell you a sad one about broken hard disks that screw it up. I don't even want to mention user data that gets lost in the process, unless said "mundane user" goes down to the computer store and spends about as much money as a working used computer costs. Hey, did that restore CD have an office suite? Nope, all your fave software is gone, sorry.

    Let's sum up the differences for the works:

    Free

    • little or no cost.
    • self configuring
    • works on any computer
    • easy to replace

    Non-Free

    • $200 OS, $500 office suite, more $100s for decent music, photo editing, painting, star charting, whatever you really want to do
    • needs OS and hardware specific drivers that can confound experts
    • mated with a single computer via "product registration" for life

    Who's meeting the needs of users again? Is it those nice people at Gator?

    Free software will always be a meritocracy because everyone is free and invited to participate. The best of breed will always rise and users will always be served. When someone makes a cool toy or tool, everyone wins. The non-free world will always have powerful haves, who hoard their tricks, and helpless have-nots who beg for software. Always, that is, until it's apparent to everyone that free software fills every need beter than any marketroid wet dream of sales. You and Cringerly will get it soon enough. Until then, I wish you would shut up.

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    1. Re:how's the weather up there? by ChaoticCoyote · · Score: 2, Interesting

      We're talking apples and oranges here. I'm quite fond of Knoppix (and have hopes for Gnoppix as well); I just used it to convert my wife's Windows laptop to GNU/Linux/KDE. Price is not the issue in this debate -- attendance to user needs is.

      For example, I miss the graphing abilities of Excel; OpenCalc and Gnumeric simply don't compare. The usual "free" response is to use gnuplot or some other outside package, or to modify Gnumeric myself. I'm certainly capable of doing both, but I haven't the time; I'd prefer a "we've haven't had time to do that yet" over the more typical "we don't give a damn, quit complaining."

      As you point out, Microsoft is equally guilty of indifference to users, given that they are far more concerned with sales and marketing than with whether their software runs reliably or well. Sadly, users get screwed by both sides of the software spectrum, albeit for different reasons.

  35. These are poorly thought out attacks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ....corporate numbers sure are decent, then what basis is there for saying they are performing badly?

    Did you RTFA? He claims that HP/Compaq did not make as much money as it would have if they had they remained separate.

    Pick a low quality (costly) product. It comes under pressure from a free high quality product. The low quality (costly) product comes under pressure. A 3rd grade kid could draw that line of reasoning.

    Only a 3rd grade kid WOULD draw that line of reasoning! It's a frighteningly all to common situation where inferior products dominate the market despite availability of superior alternatives.

  36. Sco do not have to be right to have a point. by Tallus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    With all due respect I think some people have a tendency to assume that since Sco's claim is likely to be false that is the end of the issue - its not.

    As a thought experiment assume that suddenly Sco do come up with some code. So we can just rip it out and replace it and everythings back to normal right? Of course not. Imagine I break into your house and steal your stereo. Six months down the line you come round my house and find it, so I give you it back and go and buy a new one. Would that make everything alright - of course not.

    The one argument of Sco's that I do not see being fully addressed concerns the lack of oversight. Sco argue that open source development is fundamentally flawed because of a lack of it, or a least a formal structure to deal with it - and this may well be the point Cringely is pushing at. It would only take I line of code for there to be a argument to answer to, and even if there isn't that argument might still have validity.

    So to continue the experiment, what if they do come up with goods? what if they don't but companies start to feel the chill? The stage is set for somebody to come along and say Linux is a great thing, but its a little too anarchic, what it needs is a formal structure. (Guess what? someone might just have said it). At this point the stage is set for large vested interests to come in and say we've got the money, we've got the people, the most efficient thing to do is set up a top down structure(that just happens to have us in control).

    At this point the free and open nature of the process is under threat - it isn't *just* about the code - it never is - in this field or any other. In the worse case scenario Linux could effectively become just another coporate product - but one backed up by unpaid labour - and how long would it last. The GPL does provide a good gurantee - you can always fork (as long as the GPL holds) - but this could just translate to death by a thousand cuts.

    Don't think that popular open movements can't be taken over by self-interest masquerading as efficiency - outside computing it has happened time, and time again.People need to start thinking seriously about these issues. We need to consider how we can create structures that can answer these issues without compromising the open nature of the free software process. Don't think of this as a dumb prediction, think of it as a wake up call

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  37. He got one more right by whitroth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Cringely wrote:
    "I was wrong in my mysterious prediction of a new electronic way to foment social change. I just never got around to doing it myself (that was the plan), so I'll have to accept that I was wrong."

    I don't see his email, or I'd email him directly...but he *did* get that one right: consider Howard Dean and Meetup.

    mark "did I mention ?"

  38. Misconception about cyberterrorism by Kid+Brother+of+St.+A · · Score: 5, Insightful
    2) We still won't see a big example of cyber-terrorism simply because nobody has figured out how to actually kill people that way. When it comes to terrorism, all that matters are body counts. We will, however, see dramatic growth in cyber-extortion and plain old theft.
    I certainly hope Cringley is right that there will be no big examples of cyber-terrorism. But there are at least two issues that he is getting wrong in this prediction.

    1. Terrorism is NOT just about body counts, it is about the ability to get a group to accede to your wishes by force or threat of force. Killing people is an effective way to do this but it is not the only way. In a highly wired country like the USA, a single cyberterrorist act that cripples the nation's infrastructure and/or economy is just as effective in producing terror as threatening to crash a plane into a building.

    2. Cyberterrorism need not be separate from other acts of terrorism. A cyber attack could well be a component of a large, complex attack. So even if a large cyberterror attack were improbable, it doesn't rule out small ones that are done as one piece of a much larger attack. (For example, using electronic means to extort or steal money, as Cringley admits is likely, could finance another 9/11 attack.)
  39. easy. by twitter · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Linux has to grow or die: how can this be not true?

    By being completely stupid? How does free software "grow"? How does it "die"? These are comercial software concepts that have no meaning in the free software world.

    Today, as it was before there was commercial software, free software grows when someone scratches an itch. Someone takes code and makes it do what they want. The result is more free code. Comercial code, on the other hand, grows when a marketing department convinces a user that thier particular program meets the user's needs better than anything else available. It's a cancer that chokes and kills healthy growth. The ultimate expression of comercial software growth is Bill Gates insane "one computer one OS", dreams of world domination and advertising that claims Microsoft Office will make you superman. Comercial software grows at the expense of real user needs. Free software grows by meeting needs.

    Free software never really dies. I've never heard of a program that met one person's needs that was not useful to another person, if for nothing other than a starting point to meet their own needs. As long as a single copy of any free software exists, it will be used. Chances are, that anyone using any free software will make it available and it will grow if something better does not exist. It's easy to share source code. Comercial software, on the other hand, dies all the time for reasons that have nothing to do with merit or need. Any comercial software company that does not have enough money to pay it's bills is finished. The source code is then hoarded as a valuable asset and generally bought for pennies on the dollar of it's development cost by a competitor who locks it up or destroys it.

    Indeed, it can be said that the ultimate fate of comercial software is to conquer or die. This is Cringerly's mind set and it has nothing to do with free software.

    The easy prediction for free software is that it will grow.

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  40. A Long-Winded Response by PunkXRock · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I usually enjoy Cringley's columns, but this one annoyed me to the point of posting a response to each of his "predictions". For the most part, they're so incredibly vague as to be worthless.

    1) It will happen late in the year, but Microsoft will make a bold run for video game leadership...

    Didn't Microsoft already do this, with the XBox? And let's just say MS decides to -announce- the next console - can we have some predicted specs? No? Then all this prediction says is "Microsoft will announce their next console." Fine, this one actually has a bit of substance, actually puts Cringley in the position of being distinctly right or wrong. Of course, the XBox is now almost 2 years old (launched in Nov of 2001), so it's not unreasonable to assume the announcement of a new console, particularly given how early the XBox itself was announced.

    2) We still won't see a big example of cyber-terrorism simply because nobody has figured out how to actually kill people that way...

    This seems like fluff to me. Did anyone ever predict "cyber-terrorism"? I know it's not something I'm worried about. If al qaeda (or whoever) stop my email for a week, hey, that's less work for me. It doesn't inspire terror. In fact, little that could be done online has the potential to cause terror, save for the goatse.cx man, and possibly this.

    To paraphrase, "I was right last year, so let me try again this year." Watch, I can do it too, with a high probability of success - "We again won't see the launch of nuclear weapons". And hey, if I'm wrong, you probably won't be able to hold me to it anyway.

    3) Despite new anti-spam laws, we'll still be plagued with unsolicited commercial messages, especially using Internet Messaging protocols.

    Oh my god, what a bold prediction! Surely this Cringley is possessed of a preternatural ability for soothsaying. Spam will still be a problem! Perhaps I can pay this man for tomorrow's lottery numbers, or for a Super Bowl pick. Then it's off to the bookie...

    Sorry, my sarcasm got the best of me. To be fair, he does predict possible new email protocols, but he doesn't address whether they will be accepted, or even considered.

    4) Continuing the security theme, look for lots of software companies to abandon support for old products and platforms.

    Microsoft JUST announced they were dropping Windows 98 support. And companies do this all the time. Is he predicting a rise in this type of decision?

    "Companies will abandon old products to get you to upgrade." Once again I am shocked!

    5) The SCO debacle has created a crisis within the Linux community. They pretend that it hasn't, but it has.

    This one has everyone here talking, but what does it really say? Linux will either continue to grow or start to die in 2004. Well, I mean, yeah. Obviously. Linux has BEEN growing for years now, so if it continues to grow, well look, he was right. Oh, and if in 5, 10 years, it's dead? Well, look, he was probably right, it probably started in 2004, or at least it may have. This is a non-prediction. Something will happen, or it won't. All this rules out is Linux stagnating, and who can judge that? What are the odds that every flavor of Linux will stop making major updates, but continue to make minor updates (and thus, not grow, but not die?).

    6) As for SCO, they'll continue to make noise until the middle of the year, at which point the legal case will implode and the company will give up...

    SCO will finally crumble under the weight of their legal lies, you say? I'm sure I speak for much of the Slashdot community, and Cringely's largely geek audience in general, when I say "Yes, we know".

    7) 2004 will be a crucial year for streaming media... At first, this doesn't sound like much of a prediction. Then, he says MS will settle, which

  41. SCO vs. Linux - There is no danger! by Teckla · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I know I'm just stating the obvious here, but it seems worth mentioning, in case people really believe Cringely's "the sky is falling" claim regarding SCO and Linux.

    First, there is Linux the kernel, and there is Linux the full featured operating system. The only thing in any danger is Linux the kernel, which is just a part of Linux the operating system. So, right off the bat, the potential danger is localized.

    Second, once SCO is compelled by the courts to reveal the allegedly infringing code - if there is any - the Linux community will quickly replace it, and Linux will be back on track.

    If, for some reason, replacing the allegedly infringing code is not possible, there are other kernels to turn to, including but not limited to the excellent BSD kernel (Free, Net, Open).

    This SCO nonsense is just good entertainment for us, and a foolish money sink for companies like IBM that have to put up with SCO's obnoxiousness.

    There's nothing to see here. Move on.

    -Teckla

  42. Don't panic! by cpghost · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hitchkiker's Guide to /. Linux Users: Don't Panic!

    There's no reason to panic(9), should the current Linux implementation be declared illegal in a US court:

    • Linux itself is only the kernel of a Unix-like operating system. It can be easily replaced with a clean-room implementation, that is absolutely unencumbered (provided that SCO's claims were justified, which will have to be shown in court).
    • Alternative Unix-like kernels are per se easy to develop in a very short time-span. That's also the reason why Unix has been ported to so many architectures in the past! Besides, if Linus Torvalds was able to do it as a CS student (later with the help of a great community), so will others. There's no deep black magic in a kernel, that can't be re-invented. Besides, a lot of Linux codebase is unencumbered, and can be reused. We could perhaps even go back to 2.2.x and redo the parts that may be problematic.
    • It's really about interfaces, not about kernel internals. A Unix-like kernel provides a POSIX interface to userland programs through a standardized C library (among others). As long as a kernel provides this interface, programs will run unmodified.
    • Remember: POSIX interfaces are standardized, which also means that it is legal to write against this specification. SCO can't win a suit by claiming that a POSIX kernel is using "their" interfaces! It is only illegal to use their copyright-protected specific implementation.
    • Oh, yeah, nearly all Linux programs run on BSD, even without the need to recompile anything. Even if Linux kernels were to be declared illegal, we'd still have a fully legal replacement "kernel" for our favorite applications. Of course, SCO (backed by you-known-who) will try to attack BSD next (as already announced), but that would open a can of worms that is much worse than the current anti-Linux stance they're adopting! It's very unlikely to happen, and their chances to win are even smaller. But even here, the same principles apply: there's nothing that can't be replaced.

    But this is only theoretical. It is most likely that a judge will require that some code be purged from the Linux kernel; code that can be really easily hacked up in a few hours or days.

    DONT'T PANIC! (The Hitchhiker's Guide to /. Linux-Users)

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    1. Re:Don't panic! by nutshell42 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Hitchkiker's Guide to /. Linux Users: Don't Panic!

      SCO:
      Mostly Harmless

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    2. Re:Don't panic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The reason to Panic is not that Linux may be declared illegal itself, but that the Open Source development process behind Linux may be declared to be "unable to ensure the legality/authenticity of the produced IP".

      This would not just require replacing the Linux kernel. It would make any software based on the Bazaar methodology potentially illegal and kill both commercial creation and commercial/professional use of such software.

  43. That's a little like saying... by HangingChad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ..some time in the next year you're going to have conflict with someone you care about very much. The future of Linux is no longer in doubt, it's past the tipping point and rolling downhill. At this point it would be like trying to stop the wind. Even if my some miracle of purchased justice or legislation it was stalled here, US actions are not going to stop it from spreading in the rest of the world. But I don't think that's going to happen, either. The GPL is actually pretty good and based on US copyright law. Telling people they can't donate their time and code to a community project would raise 1rst amendment issues, not that Bush and his thugs care about that but legally it would be a tough sell. And almost every company is benefiting from OSS in some way by this time, so every day the political landscape is changing, too. I think the proprietary software industry is doing all it can. Attacking any OSS project politically, spinning an aura of fear, discounting to hang on to customers. If there were other legal avenues, they'd be using them already, SCO notwithstanding. But Cringley may be right in one aspect, it is getting near the point when Linux needs to be more unified and this year may be it. Either way it's still the best show in town. All the really fun stuff in IT is happening around Linux and OSS.

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  44. legalibility of linux by mikkom · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How could linux be declared illegal, even in the US, the land of strange patent laws? There is no lawsuit that is going to declare linux illegal.

    Also, copyright infringements and legality are two very separate issues, in fact the current case (SCO vs IBM) is not even a copyright lawsuit, it is about SCO alleging that IBM has broken their contract with SCO. It has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with legality of Linux.

  45. Linux has an organizational structure? by SoupIsGood+Food · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Cringley makes one of the classic tech-punditry blunders, which is to confuse Linux with an operating system while simultaneously confusing it with a religious movment and/or trade association.

    It's none of the above, of course. It's a free software kernal, rolled into many operating systems like Red Hat and Debian, but still just a kernel. Pretty much useless by itself, unlike Free, Net and OpenBSD, which are top-to-bottom OS projects, with a central organizational structure that takes care of everything a user could want or need in their Unix system.

    Free Software/Open Source has not one, but two religious movment/trade associations, complete with Famous and Glamorous grand high pooh-bah charismatic heads. Richard Stallman on the one side, and Bruce Perens on the other. Both men and their organizations are pretty much ignored by everyone involved with Linux, save to incorporate their software into the Linux-based OS projects or to toss obscene amounts of cash at them to help them kick Microsoft out of the datacenter. Overall, they're mostly just good for really entertaining flame wars.

    Linux will continue to grow unchecked because there is no organizational structure. People are free to take and use the kernel however they see fit, so long as they share the source code to any modifications, so it will wind up in spacecraft microcontrollers and kilo-processor supercomputers, wrapped in the software needed to get the job done.

    Linux-based desktop operating systems will put in more effort to be interoperable with each other, though it's unlikely they'll all get together and decide to have someone be their collective boss. That's not neccesarily a bad thing, and coprorate customers will be more comfortable knowing that the organizational structure in charge of their Linux-based OS is "IBM" or "Red Hat" rather than a nebulous organization of hippies and geeks... gives 'em someone to sue if it all goes wrong.

    SoupIsGood Food

  46. Right by soloport · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As a member of the Linux community...

    Ever noticed that those who have to say it, aren't?

    Pros: "I know a little about computers."
    Also-rans: "I'm a computer expert."

    Pros: "We'll do our best."
    Also-rans: "We deliver quality."

    Pros: "I'm OS neutral." (though would probably recommend specific OS for specific job)
    Also-rans: "Linux is like a god."

    Pros: "Life always picks up and goes on..."
    Also-rans: "Linux could be threatened! Everybody should worry about it!"

    I'll bet that:
    90% or more of what we worry about, in life, doesn't happen.
    90% or more of what we hope or dream about, and really work at, happens.

  47. Other reason why Wal-Mart is a non-starter... by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Here's another factor you did not mention - who uses Wal-Mart's web site?

    Sure, lots and lots of people of all bands visit the stores. But that's not going to help online music sales much. I think there are very few people actually shopping around online for music stores, and almost no-one going to the Wal-Mart web site the same way people go to the stores. So Wal-Mart's service in reality has a pretty low visibility.

    Now add in the 900 pound gorilla - the Pepsi promotion. All sorts of Wal-Mart customers are going to go to ITMS for a free song or two, in the process downloading iTunes and after that other services are a non-starter since iTunes makes it so much easier to shop for music than web-based sites.

    Wal-Mart seems like a huge competitor. But the on-line presence is weak, and I doubt Wal-Mart has a desire to loose a bundle in support of this service.

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  48. You've never seen... by tacokill · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You've never seen Wal-mart's IT capabilities. They are quite extensive and is surely part of the reason of their success. The perfected cross-docking and inventory management -- and THAT is the reason for their success.

    Yea, they drove some people out of business for sure. But at the same time, they are a VERY capable company. They very well could succeed at this.

  49. Re:what? by ChaoticCoyote · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I suppose that I should ignore you, given your obvious need for non sequitors. But then I'm in a cranky mood, so... ;)

    The lack of reliability in Microsoft's products is no excuse for the lack of quality in many free softwares. Like Linus, I don't really give a hoot what Microsoft does -- I want the best possible free-as-in-liberty software, period.

    How many examples would you like me to cite? Should I have mentioned the silly bug (which frustrated me this morning) in Abiword 2.0.1 that consistently screws up pasting at the end of a document, or the random crashes that Abiword seems prone to? Or the lack of consistency in something so simple as exiting an application (is it File|Close, File|Quit or File|Exit?) I can go on and on, using examples from myself and more mainstream users.

    If free software wants to present itself as an alternative to Microsoft, it needs to act like an adult and provide quality software with service and attention to user needs. To say, as you do, "It's free, so live with it" is a cop-out.

  50. mostly the usual cringely nonsense by fanatic · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The SCO debacle has created a crisis within the Linux community. They pretend that it hasn't, but it has. This will come to a head in 2004 with either the development of a new organizational structure for Linux or the start of its demise. Linux has to grow or die, and the direction it takes will be determined in 2004.'

    No elaboration, explanation, discussion of what 'grow or die' means. How trivial.

    As for SCO, they'll continue to make noise until the middle of the year, at which point the legal case will implode and the company will give up...This was never more than a stock scam,

    This much at least seems true.

    We'll see more of this ploy in the future.

    This seems unlikely. Once SCO self-destructs and all non-insiders are left hoding shares at 100% loss, this pattern will become evident even to financial analysts (who, with few exceptions, have been amazingly dense sofar). Even Didio and Enderle will be able to see it then, though they'll never have the decency to say so.

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  51. Linux IS organized by tjstork · · Score: 4, Insightful


    Linux is BETTER organized than closed source shops.

    The whole notion that Linux is somehow disorganized is a subtle knock that says: "oh, it has to be centralized to be organized", in other words, only big companies are capable of organization. Yet, big companies are often just as disorganized as the internet blob that is Linux.

    We often note how corporate will can accomplish great things, but, we also live in a world where we disregard all of the dishonesty and infighting that plagues many IT departments and companies. Even MS is not immune to this - with the rumored infighting between the Office team and the .NET team becoming legend, just as the infighting between the Win9x team and the WinNT team - the latter saying their stuff is better, the former saying they are paying all the bills.

    By contrast, Linux projects are out in the open. You can check the status of any via the web, you can see the differing philosophies of the different camps of different systems easily, you can choose to decide which technology to invest in by a transparent and open decision making process. Of course, you could always look at the source yourself, and you may, but for the most part, the process of fundraising in the open source environment is a lot more transparent and accountable than the same process in a closed source company.

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  52. Its not the first time . . . by ir0b0t · · Score: 5, Insightful

    . . . that a programmer was accused of "stealing" software. As /. readers know, in 1976, Gates attacked those who "stole" BASIC from him and the whole idea of sharing source code. Gates made the following claim in his 2/3/76 open letter to hobbyists: "[By stealing software you] prevent good software from being written. Who can afford to do professional work for nothing? What hobbyist can put 3-man years into programming, finding all bugs, documenting his product and distribute for free?"

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  53. You are all punching Cringely's ticket by Man_Holmes · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So you're Cringely with a year end predictions column to write.

    You have two or three provocative theories that you would llke to push. You know they're unlikely to prove true. Plus they wouldn't fill a column all by themselves.

    So you combine them with seven weak predictions that are sure to be found correct.

    So if anyone questions your provocative predictions you smugly say that you're right 70% of the time year after year.

    So you're respected by the media (who rarely do their homework) as this all knowing and seeing prognasticator even if your actual "real" predictions are rarely correct.

    But your "record of predictions" ensures they're taken seriously and sponsor much debate.

    Cringely, I'm on to your tricks pal.

    Man Holmes

  54. Cringely is a lousy journalist by bgelb · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've never liked Robert Cringley's style or manner, which basic can be summed up as observing the obvious, then claiming all the credit or screaming "SCANDAL" where there really is none. But what made me really dislike him forever is his total lack of journalistic ethics a.k.a. MAKING SHIT UP.

    He has a history of INVENTING stories that simply do not exist. IMHO he should meet the same fate as Jayson Blair. I do not know why PBS hasn't caught on.

    A prime example is his incredible story of bouncing a Wi-Fi signal over a mountain, which can be found at http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20020207. html.

    Most of his Wi-Fi tall tales are at least physically possible, but this one crosses the line.

    See Rob Flickenger's Response.

  55. Linux *does* have to grow! by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I see lots of arguments to the contrary, and they've all been modded up to 5. But let's look at this issue in a calmer fashion, okay?

    Linux is technically solid. This is no surprise, as it essentially borrowed its technical solidity from UNIX, which had been around for 20 years when Linux first appeared. This is good.

    But beyond the kernel and server-type applications and developer utilities, Linux has less focus. Some people like using bare window managers. Some people want X Windows replaced with something saner. Then there are the KDE/Gnome desktop environment battles. Lets not even get into the various GUI creation libraries.

    One side will say "Choice is good!", and I agree. But all the arguing and general muddling has made Linux much less appealing as an alternative to more focused operating systems. Apple forces a GUI down your throat, but at the same time they've succeeded in making desktop UNIX appealing and a target for well-known applications. So Linux needs to grow in the sense that there should be more focus to what the desktop Linux experience *is* exactly, and with that is going to come wider curiosity and adoption. UserLinux may pull this off...or not.

    But please just don't blow off the comment, okay? Personally, I see OS X as a much brighter alternative to Linux, simply because decisions have been made and there's strong leadership.