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61-inch Wide Plasma Monitor
Mister.de writes "NEC Plasma Display Corporation today announced the launch of two 61-inch wide plasma monitors from the PlasmaSync(TM)61XM2+series (a grey bezel model, and a silver bezel model) that are equipped with "Enhanced Split Screen" ability - a high quality, high performance Double Picture function. Sales will commence on February 1st, 2004 to meet various uses mainly in multimedia presentation and public display applications with different release dates for each region. NEC Plasma Display Corporation is targeting 25% of the world commercial market share with its 11 model line up. See the source with picture or Read the Main Specifications." The 1365x768 resolution definitely means this is more TV than Monitor, but who wouldn't want it in their office?
And I just bought a new 57-inch plasma monitor!
can you play Duck Hunt on it?
What is so special about this? Is it the size? Is this the first 61-inch screen? Honestly - I don't know!
Looks like if you have to ask, you can't afford it.
61" plasma screens are old news. Sure the new features are nice, but are they really worth a Slashdot story? This sounds like an advertisement for NEC.
How about gaming! Imagine your favorite game on that pup! :0.. (me drooling).
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... but everytime I mention it to my gf, she keeps telling me that "size isn't important", it's what you _do_ with what you got. She encouraged me to simply do more with what I have. Sigh.
half life 2, would be a prime example!
...and what was featured in "Back to the Future" (II, I think)...
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What I want is a big screen monitor covering the wall that can be divided up into quadrants and can be used to watch multiple channels all at once, with a few quadrants for terminals and some Gnome programs! This brings us one step closer...
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Actually 61" diagonal. Nice anyway. This would be great for presentations: beats a projector hands down.
A 61" screen is larger than my living room given that home builders think someone can actually survive in a 400sqft hole called 'upscale living condominiums'. Perhaps I can put it on the balcony and use it as a beacon
You hear all this buzz about HDTV screens, being Plasma or LCD etc etc. But when you look at the specifications they are never True 1080P ready. I want a widescreen display that can do 1920x1080 at 30". The closet thing is the samsung 240T (24" 1920x1200) but it is already a few years old. All the screens that came after always had a lower resolution. When you check the LCD screen manufacturers you will also not find screens that size, so .. where are they?
I've noticed an evil plot involving Plasma and LCD tv's. Architects are purposely designing living rooms where it is impossible to place an old style back projection big screen tv.
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wow, that is so airbrushed it's a damn cartoon. do you jack off to cartoons?
Although it's nice, guess it will be roughly 3-5 years before the price comes down to a level where the common public can afford. Most of us don't have that deep pockets....... :(
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I don't know why everyone has a hardon for plasma. Sure it's thin but it suffers from burn in and it runs fairly hot and the colors fade after a few years. DLP doesn't suffer from burn in at all, so you can play all the computer/pc games on it you want without fear of ruining your multi thousand dollar investment. Plus when the DLP light board goes out in 3-4 years just buy a new one for a few hundred and drop it in.
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It seems to me that at this size of over 5 feet, maybe a nice projector would be better.
how many pr0n sites could you have open then at the same time? [inches? what's that? translate it to something I understand]
>> Current Rating A:6.7A(Max) G:8.0A(Max)
Am I reading this correctly? 6.7-8.0 amps? To protect the investment, is it possible to get a surge protector that can handle that kind of current for a decent price?
Furthermore, don't many houses run on 15-20 amp circuits? That just seems like a lot of power!
>> Speakers 9W+9W (6)
Where does the surround sound hook up at? Does it typically connect to the TV, or is it supposed to connect upstream somewhere like at the DSS dish, or DVD player?
So why does this come out AFTER christmas??
Weight 61kg/134.5lbs
134 pounds? Are they sure its a plasma?
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I'll finally have a large enough screen TV to make my evil supervillain's lair with my computer console that has way too many buttons.
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LG thought that they were going to steal the show at CES with their puny 65" model but then Samsung dropped the bomb with an 80 incher... 1920x1080p... Wow...
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with different release dates for each region
Why do companies insist on doing that? Surly they'd make more money with a single release date? Would make advertising a lot simpler.
So the Marketing guys come up with this plan, and put it in the product literature, but wonder why sales are slow. Could it be that the salespeople read the literature and then have to go home and change clothes, having soiled themselves, what with the wet dream of selling 48 of them (on commission) at once?
Not that I'm suggesting the price of the units might be high or anything....
its just going to be a very expensive pinboard
isnt the inherant fault in plasma screens is they lose 50% of their brightness in 3years ?
doesnt anyone make *anything* that will fsking last more than 3years thesedays
It's not the size that counts, it's how you use it!
And by that, I mean what operating system you have it displaying.
I don't know of a single 1080 signal source. Its all well and good to have that capability, but nobody is broadcasting that way, so what's the fuss?
I'm just surprised that most of the plasmas are only EDTV capable.
What is this? Some sort of troll language?
Rear projection TV's are HUGE, and their viewing angle is poor. If you buy one, you buy it knowing those considerable cons.
I can't imaging taking up 1/3 of a room just to fit in a TV set. I have never seen a TV show worth that much trouble.
Its not a bad choice, but the brightness is poor, and you can't watch in the daytime.
Each has their advantages, but if money is no object, you choose Plasma in a runaway. Its clearly the best picture. Nice and bright, good viewing angles.
Of course, if money is an object, what the hell are you doing spending $2,500 on a TV set anyway?
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*yawn* I can wait. If I'm gonna have a monitor five feet wide, wake me when they get the resolution up to about 10240x7680. 100x as much detail is worth some serious money to me; bigger pixels are not.
What would I do with all that real estate? How about a couple dozen windows, none overlapping, each more detailed than what I have now? (Then I need to figure out how to touch-type with VR gloves....) There's a lot of low-level event detectors in the human visual pathway that are being wasted by our tendency to view computing processes through the tiny peepholes we call displays.
(Think about the mural display rooms in the opening chapter of Hogan's _The Genesis Machine_, or the Prime Radiant in Asimov's _Second Foundation_. Now, those are some *real* display hardware!)
Really at this point anything under 1080p is kinda half*ssed for a high resolution TV. -I would guess this mind frame would follow in the newest, fastest, best /. crowd- And yes, something that big with that low of resolution, would have pixels too largs to look at 24" from you face. It would look like those 17" lcd monitors that Dell ships out at 640 x 480... how many time have you gone to help a friend out on their computer and have to talk them into bumping up their resolution.... god why!
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61", that's great... but there are bigger... 63" from Samsung... So, what's the big deal?
Then again, why not go DLP front projector and get a 10 foot picture for a fraction of the giant plasma price?
Hey gang,
Just so you know, the estimated average quality lifespan of a plasma display is about 3 and a half years.
I, for one, am going to stick with other technologies until they can drastically improve the lifespan of such an investment.
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parent post should be modded up for interesting. anyone care to comment on whether or not an IR-based "gun" game controller works with televisions other than CRT technology?
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At eight amps, that should keep any room warm.
...DLP is a type of sandwhich. they are leaving out the mystery sauce ingredient, like so:
1) D
2) L
3) ???
4) P!
i'm sure you can come up with the true recipie for ingredient number three.
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The DoubleSight Dual 15" LCD Display from Thinkgeek. How about a good old fashioned side-by-side dual LCD mounting arm?
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...and maybe I have just not see the good ones yet, but none of the ones that I have seen are as good as a good CRT direct view. And I can't stand dead pixels, even one will drive me crazy. For the money, you can get soo much more, *if* you have the space.
No thanks, I spend way too much on paper towels as it is.
I might consider it if they sold it in beech or birch.
So why does this come out AFTER christmas??
So you can save up for it for NEXT Christmas.
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1365x768 on a 61" display?!? I wouldn't pay for a 19" display that couldn't do better than that. At 61" the pixel pitch must be, what? 11.5mm?
I hope it only does 16 colours. I mean, why go half-way on bad displays? At least with a low colour depth it would have some nostalgia value. Remember your Vic-20? Nice big, chunky-style pixels in primary colours. Mmm-hmm.
Now all we need is something worth watching.
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Notice that they haven't revealed the power consumption? A plasma screen is brighter than a regular LCD, and need stronger fans, so they use up much more power then a CRT. This sucker would probably need 1000 W -- as much power as an industrial vacuum cleaner. Imagine having that running in your home four hours every day!
When are they going to come out with plasma rifles!?
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This way I could have files spread all over it, each with a font size that didn't hurt my eyes.
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The software side is called a "windowing interface", and solutions are already available for *nix, Macintosh, and (of course) Microsoft platforms.
The real problem is user control. Wireless keyboards and mice pretty much suck, and old-fashioned remotes are already growing too many fiddly buttons for their own good. Every once in awhile, I see a new piece of human interface hardware that looks really snazzy but probably isn't all that practical; he who finds the real solution to this problem will be inventing the next mouse, so to speak.
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I wouldn't. Given that a reasonable sized office is maybe 6 metres across, at 61 inches and about 1300 by 768 this would be pixel-o-rama. I'll wait for the 4000x6000 version :-)
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The more pixles you want to pack onto something, at any size, the harder it is. Plus it's not like most people care so it's a waste of money.
Like you can beat your 20" LCD easily. Viewsonic makes a 22" LCD that does 3840x2400. That's 2x max HDTV in each direction. So it's only 2 inches bigger than yours yet has over double the resolution.
So what gives? why doesn't you're have a similar resolution? Well because it's expensive as hell, that's why. That's like a $4000 monitor. Plus I'm betting you don't really care. I mean barring engineering uses, there isn't much use for pixels that small.
Similar with TVs. You don't sit nearly so close to them, so pixels can be larger. What's more, you are limited by your input. You are basically not going to find anything that's over 1920x1080 (the HDTV max) so there's little point to making above that.
Finally, plasma screens are a bit different technology than LCDs. What applies to one in terms of resolution feasability does not necessiarly apply to the other.
Primarily because they suffer from burn-in. How would you like a permanent "Start" button in the lower left or a permanent menu bar from your mac?
On another subject, it's interesting, but the Sony XBR-950 series of Plasma monitors run Linux in their media box (which is a video switch + runs media from a memory stick).
And no, I would not like a beowulf cluster of these, thank you very much.
Realistically, can you think of anything else that could be so little used by normal people but be a big status symbol for the CxO set? I think that this will be a big seller to the 7-figure high-tech exec crowd. It's pretty clear that NEC has a winner on its hands here (BTW, do I get extra karma for using it's and its right?).
That is all.
Zenith has had a 60 inch out for well over a year with split screen capabilities.
That's rich man. The offtopic mod was unwarranted. Still, you could have lied and said all 15 screens were arranged into one big 3x3 or something to demo some Matrox cards... heh. Plasma's got nothing on that.
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It would look like those 17" lcd monitors that Dell ships out at 640 x 480... how many time have you gone to help a friend out on their computer and have to talk them into bumping up their resolution Way too many times!
On a similar note, is it just me, or have others noticed a nasty jitter in HDTV fast moving images? I used to think it was something unique to plasma/LCD monitors, but then I noticed it on a Pioneer Elite rear projection set. The thing about the big screens is that the effect becomes even more pronounced. Now I'm wondering if it has something to do with HD cameras.
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a. comment how big that monitor is. ...?
b. comment about how much light that must output.
c. comment on how close most of us sit to monitors.
d.
sorry, i've been wearing my tinfoil hat.... but monitor emissions scare me. i thought that was on topic. response noted.
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Plasma is good if you need to hang it on a wall, but others are catching up. InFocus was showing a 61" DLP rear-projection set that is thin enough to hang on a wall at CES, for example.
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3 year life on a plasma display (ie. before pixels start to die)? - I think i'll catch the next technology thanks.
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So little space!
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It's great to see all this new big monitor tech from CES, etc...
However, all these large screens get increasingly cumbersome
as their resolution grows, because graphics get so small. Right
now I'm using a 1920x1200 UWXGA screen on my laptop
and the only way to read webpages is to increase the font size,
which screws all the formatting.
I'm hoping for a good vector-scale-type format for text/graphics.
(that's still small enough to be suitable for the web).
As they get bigger, TVs are usurping functions of other devices, particularly computers and printers.
Yeah, because I can use my new TV to read Usenet, play Warcraft and burn CDs.
You'd think a tech writer would know the difference between a computer and a computer monitor.
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I heard somebody say that some large plasma monitors cannot be used for TV since you would notice a flicker from changing images. Is there any truth to this?
I was watching a DirectTV HD feed in a store, and noticed compression artifacts from fast-action scenes or quick scene changes. It looked beautiful as long as there wasn't too much movement, otherwise it got all blocky.
My projector (middle range Epson EMP-710) is said to achieve 21 FEET diagonal... I would like to see this 61" (" as in for INCHES) beat this, even hands up 8p Yours, faithfully, A Projector owner .... ROFL....
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If you watch 8 hours of TV every day, then your plasma will probably die in 10 years. It'll go in 3-5 years if you leave it on constantly, which is ridiculous.
It's not the dpi that matters. It's that finally it can do 1080i HDTV natively. You wouldn't wanna sit up close to any plasma. None have had very high res until now. Yes, I saw the 80" Samsung at CES. I also saw the 76" plasma at LG's booth at CES. They were claiming that their 76" was the largest... LOL. Oops!