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Whose Desktop Would You Most Like To See?

An anonymous reader writes "Have you ever been curious about what someone else's computing environment looks like? Would you like to see what tools and products someone like Linus Torvalds, Bill Gates, George Bush, or Steve Jobs uses on a daily basis? What percentage of time is spent browsing the web, working in spreadsheets, programming, debugging, designing, or writing documents? How many monitors or devices do they have attached to their PC? What kind of security or anonymizers do they have in place?" For good or ill, open source developers' desktops at least are often visible in screenshots of their pet projects.

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  1. Jenna Jameson by Gr33nNight · · Score: 5, Funny

    Jennas desktop is the one *I* would like to see the most!

    1. Re:Jenna Jameson by onemorehour · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd rather see Bill Clinton's list of bookmarks.

    2. Re:Jenna Jameson by Awptimus+Prime · · Score: 3, Funny

      I heard she plays Quake3 and reads Slashdot. Off the main topic, but I thought it was cool.

      Jenna, if you ever need a good geek to replace that goob boyfriend -- look me up. :]

    3. Re:Jenna Jameson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      You are thinking of Asia Carrera. And don't ask me why I know that.

    4. Re:Jenna Jameson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's funny, that's what my girlfriend says about me: "I've got a boyfriend that looks like a porn star". Unfortunately, the porn star she's referring to is Ron Jeremy.

  2. One Man by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 5, Funny

    Darl.

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    1. Re:One Man by Klowner · · Score: 5, Funny

      fifty bucks says he's got a wallpaper of naked sailors wearing tophats, pushing huge crates of treasure off their sinking ship.

      (note: this is pure speculation)

  3. Dubya by WormholeFiend · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm curious to see what Georgie Bush's computer's like, but it's a pretty strong bet that someone just gave him an Etch-a-Sketch to play with.

    1. Re:Dubya by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

      He's probably cursing and swearing because this page is being displayed in the browser. (Look closer.)

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    2. Re:Dubya by Dreadlord · · Score: 4, Funny

      don't know about his computer, but I know that his keyboard doesn't have a W key.

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    3. Re:Dubya by harvardian · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not an Etch-A-Sketch, but you're close -- he uses a Mac.

    4. Re:Dubya by tsaler · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Pardon me for not trying to be funny, but George W. Bush doesn't use a computer unless he absolutely has to. He's said this before. He also doesn't watch television unless it's sports, he doesn't like to use the telephone, he doesn't use cell-phones, and so on.

      All of this should be no surprise for someone who doesn't even read the news himself, and has his advisors act as a "news filter" for him so he only hears and learns about what he wants to hear and learn about, or what his advisors want him to hear or learn about.

      You can be pro-Bush or anti-Bush, but that's hardcore ignorance, especially for a president. I don't think there's much of anything funny about it.

    5. Re:Dubya by harvardian · · Score: 4, Informative

      The missing W key story is one of the best debunked lies of this administration. Which is an impressive feat.

      Check this story out. Yes, the place was a mess, but the General Services Administration determined that "The condition of the real property was consistent with what we would expect to encounter when tenants vacate office space after an extended occupancy."

      If you read the story, you'll also see that the GAO and the GSA have both said that there is no documented evidence of vandalism.

      But then again, who needs documentation when your support base never looks any further than innuendo?

    6. Re:Dubya by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why?

      Wanting to fuck your secretary is a perfectly rational human desire, wanting to murder thousands of people to please your oil industry sponsors is not.

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    7. Re:Dubya by Scaba · · Score: 3, Funny

      You must be confusing GWB with someone who was actually in the military.

  4. George Bush by herrvinny · · Score: 3, Funny

    George Bush's Desktop:

    None. You can't put a desktop on a Etch-A-Sketch.

    1. Re:George Bush by utahjazz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      All kidding aside, why would George Bush need a personal computer? What's he going to do, write up the new federal budget in Excel? Make a PowerPoint about why we should go to Mars? Type up the State of the Union address in Word? Schedule cabinet meetings in Outlook? Read emails sent to whitehouse.gov?

      I'm sure the closest he comes to working with a computer is reading a few select emails that someone printed out for him.

    2. Re:George Bush by BigGerman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually when he was in Texas, he was pretty active email user. But his lawyers suggested he stopped using email after moving to WH.

    3. Re:George Bush by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 3, Funny


      Type up the State of the Union address in Word?

      Why is that hard to believe? You think that there is some special "For Presidential Addresses"-type Word Processor? I wouldn't be surprised if he used Word, Adobe Acrobat, and Excel a lot. Presuming he does any of his own content creation, and doesn't simply use a paper and pencil.

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    4. Re:George Bush by Drakonian · · Score: 4, Funny
      You think that there is some special "For Presidential Addresses"-type Word Processor?

      Yes, it's called a speechwriter.

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  5. Not a lie by calmdude · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gates uses MacOS, Torvalds uses Windows, and Jobs uses Linux. They're a bunch of swingaas babyyy!

    1. Re:Not a lie by CGP314 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Gates uses MacOS, Torvalds uses Windows, and Jobs uses Linux. They're a bunch of swingaas babyyy!

      Actually, I would make sense for them to have an almost-primary computer be the competing OS. This way they'd have to get used to it and see the good points as well as the bad.

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  6. Re:RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd be amazed if he has one. I'm pretty sure he's still using an old vt220 terminal, desperately trying to run HURD.

  7. RMS's desktop by Handyman · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm not curious anymore about what Richard Stallman's desktop looks like. I happened to be sitting behind him at the last FOSDEM conference, just before his presentation. Two observations about his desktop as I saw it that day.

    First of all, he doesn't use a GUI.

    Second, the desktop environment that he was using was not vi. :)

    1. Re:RMS's desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Second, the desktop environment that he was using was not vi.

      Pico! It must be pico!

      Am I right? :-]

      Oh.

    2. Re:RMS's desktop by daSilva · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've seen it, it's Emacs. He only uses X to play FreeCiv (really)

    3. Re:RMS's desktop by Walterk · · Score: 5, Funny
      As a great man once said:

      "In years past, I knew of someone who used emacs as his login shell, the
      only thing he found wanting in emacs was a good text editor. So he ended
      up using vi."
  8. Easy. by Freston+Youseff · · Score: 5, Funny

    Michael Jackson's desktop.

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    1. Re:Easy. by Foole · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm glad you didn't say lap top.

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    2. Re:Easy. by morganjharvey · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's well known that Michael Jackson uses a 10 year old laptop...

      <grin>

  9. Bill gates' desktop by pardasaniman · · Score: 3, Funny
    1. Re:Bill gates' desktop by UnassumingLocalGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

      You guys are all crazy. THIS is what Bill Gate's desktop looks like.

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  10. Re:RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    image a good working desktop system.. nice, fast gui. This was a desktop before RMS was using it..

    then image a huge black hole which sucks more than you can possibly imagine.. call it emacs.

  11. Drew Curtis by Nonesuch · · Score: 4, Funny

    This would fare better as a Fark photoshop contest than as an ask slashdot.

  12. Re:RMS by lokedhs · · Score: 4, Funny

    Do you think it contains anything at all? Don't you think the defaults are to his liking already? :-)

  13. Jesus! by molafson · · Score: 4, Funny

    I would like to see Jesus' desktop; I bet he uses OS X.

    1. Re:Jesus! by molafson · · Score: 5, Funny

      Here's a question: Could Jesus design a desktop so cluttered that even He couldn't use it?

    2. Re:Jesus! by madpierre · · Score: 5, Funny

      Come on he's the son of god for christs sake.

      He uses the command line. ;)

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    3. Re:Jesus! by rmarll · · Score: 4, Funny

      We'll never know. I'm sure he's logged in as root though.

    4. Re:Jesus! by cgenman · · Score: 3, Funny

      Jesus suffered for our sins, bereft of worldly possessions.

      (He uses OS2 WARP.)

  14. Mine... by UncleRage · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...my monitor died last week.

    bhu dhu dhum dhum *crash*

    Thank you, thank you... I'll be here all week.

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  15. Re:Bill Gates' Super Secret Private Laptop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's nothing. I was able to hack into his hotmail account.

  16. Thanks to "Bush in 30 seconds"... by jesser · · Score: 3, Interesting

    we already know what George Bush's desktop looks like.

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  17. Re:Linus by astrashe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It would be fun to know what distro Linus uses, but we're all better off not knowing.

    It almost reminds me a little bit of the furour surrounding the Pope and Mel Gibson's film. On one level, the Pope is a guy watching a movie, and he probably said something after he saw it. But on the other hand, it seems likely that he didn't want to make a public statement. There's a difference beteen the guy acting as the guy, and the guy acting in the context of his office.

    Linus almost certainly has his preferences and his opinions, like any other user. But in his capacity as the guy who holds his vague and unnamed office, as the spiritual leader of the linux movement, he chooses not to express a preference.

    For a guy who says he wants to stay out of politics, he understands linux politics pretty well. I think that has a lot to do with his success, and the OS's success.

  18. Re:RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    (2) And the buffer was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the file. And the spirit of Lisp moved upon the face of the keys.
    (3) And the user said, C-x C-f, and there was buffer.
    (4) And the user saw the buffer, that it was good: and I think we can let the humor end here.

  19. Yours. by Limburgher · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, what's your IP address and root password? :)

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    1. Re:Yours. by maelstrom · · Score: 4, Funny

      IP: 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 (I use IPV6)
      Password: supa%31337!haxx0r

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    2. Re:Yours. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      So, what's your IP address and root password? :)

      My IP is 127.0.0.1. Believe it or not, my root password is exactly the same as yours. I'm actually trying to free up some space, so delete files at will!

  20. The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by Artifex · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'd really love to see what tools they were using/are using still, when coding the vehicles. In fact, I really think Slashdot should try hard to get some info from the development team as to what OS they're running on those little vehicles, not to mention the basic hardware platform. It would be a real eye-opener, in fact, if it was discovered that they were using off-the-shelf components for the core computing systems, or if the specs turn out to be less complex than current-generation mini-itx class boards you can buy on the open market.

    They're supposedly a publicly-funded scientific project, so it would be revealing in itself if they refused to answer, claiming the need for secrecy. I dare you to file some FOIAs, Timothy :)

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    1. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by cscx · · Score: 4, Informative

      They are using Wind River's vxWorks.

    2. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by CleverNickName · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'd really love to see what tools they were using/are using still, when coding the vehicles.

      I asked them this when I was at JPL last week. The rover software is coded in C, and most of the rover drivers use Red Hat. Julie Townsend told me that she uses Windows, and there's a fairly even mix of Mac, *nix, and Windows users across the whole project.

    3. Re:The Martian Rovers' engineers' desktops by CleverNickName · · Score: 3, Funny

      Did you by any chance ask them if Spirit and Opportunity use the same code, or if they were coded independently by two separate teams working on the same requirements?

      No, I didn't. I should have, but instead I asked her which one would win in a fight. She said that they were twins, so it would be pretty even . . . then I asked her which one was the Evil Twin, and she laughed and said that was classified information.

  21. Re:Dennis Ritchie (of C and UNIX fame) by be-fan · · Score: 3, Informative

    As a front-end to a Plan 9 machine :)

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  22. Well, you asked for it. by naitro · · Score: 5, Informative

    The swedish site Unix.se has screenshots from several famous computeers (hey, it could be a word!) desktops here. The site is in swedish, but you'll most likely at least understand the names.

  23. ya know he loves mouse trails by kaltkalt · · Score: 3, Funny

    "wow look at mah cursor! it's got a tail! come over here condi... check this out, lookey, when I move my mouse 'round, there's a lil' tail it's like a real mousey!"

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  24. Re:Linus by stor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I played a game of "Frozen Bubble" Against Linus at Linux.Conf.Au. on what I assumed was his laptop (but may not have been).

    It was an apparently vanilla Fedora Cora 1.

    Cheers
    Stor

    p.s. He beat me 4/5: came back from 1/4. Bastard! =)
    p.p.s. Who cares what distro he uses? As far as I'm concerned most of the differences between the distros are pretty academic.

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  25. Re:Dennis Ritchie (of C and UNIX fame) by cscx · · Score: 3, Informative

    And here it is...

  26. RMS's desktop by phr1 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    A few people have asked about this. I used to work for RMS and have seen him hacking lots of times. He uses an amazingly primitive environment. No window system at all, just text mode. He does everything inside Emacs. I spoke with him once about a web-based email client I'd used and he said he could understand why such things were worthwhile but he'd never want to use one himself because he couldn't use Emacs editing commands in one while composing mail. Since he doesn't use a window system, there's no simple mechanism for a screen shot, but there wouldn't be much to see anyway, just whatever message he was composing or code he was hacking.

    As for his .emacs file, last time I looked, it wasn't empty, but contained a few lines to turn off the default disabling of novice-confusing commands like narrow-to-window, and I think he also enables debug-on-error. It no serious customization to speak of though. As someone else mentioned, he's presumably set up Emacs's defaults the way he already likes them.

    In recent years because of injuries, he's often had to get other people to type for him while he tells them what to type ("control-F, meta-d, blah blah"). That wouldn't show up in a screen shot either, but somehow seems like it should be part of the picture. Typing for him is an interesting experience if you don't have to do it for too long. Volunteer for it sometime if the situation arises, I'm sure he'll appreciate it.

  27. Video of Dubya's computer... by trafik · · Score: 3, Funny

    Actually, he seems to be pretty proficient with a computer. :-)

    [For the high-bandwidth version go to http://bushin30seconds.org/finalists.shtml]

  28. funky UI stuff by talieos · · Score: 5, Funny
    One student job I had, a user had drawn a line down the screen at column 72, where this particular xterm lay on the screen. Why? So he could write fortan in it of course!

    The funny/sad thing was one of his specialties was supposed to be user interface. He wasn't please when the X10 to X11 upgrade moved the windows. Plus the line was in permanent marker.

    That was one desktop I didn't need to see...

  29. Screenshot of Oval Office computer by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 5, Funny
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    1. Re:Screenshot of Oval Office computer by greenhide · · Score: 4, Funny
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  30. Re:Bill Gates' Super Secret Private Laptop by MikeXpop · · Score: 4, Funny

    I prefer George Bush's

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  31. Re:George Bush's Desktop... by SpaceRook · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm not clicking any link with the word "goat" in the path.

  32. My own by Sean+Clifford · · Score: 5, Funny

    My own desktop. It's so cluttered with icons and documents that I can't see what background looks like anymore.

    Where was that report again? :)

  33. An interesting choice by DarkHelmet · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The desktop I would like to see more than anyone else's is John Carmack's.

    Of course, since John posts here, I'm hoping that he'd be kind enough to take a screenshot of the current desktop he has, and post it here.

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    1. Re:An interesting choice by goon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      try here (text description), here (text) and question/answer 1 (also text) on a *retro* '99, slashdot. I remember seeing a picture of carmack long ago (probably quake 2 - that I couldn't find) with a dual monitor LCD setup in a darkened windowless room, back when they where pretty rare. One screen with an editor, the other with a debugger or renderer. The thing I remember most was the ugly pink/red screen - though I reckon this is chosen due to low contrast (easier on the eyes). Nothing there but code.

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  34. Re:RMS by agwadude · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, according to this article, RMS rarely uses X. He uses mostly emacs on the console.

  35. Re:The desktop is a personal thing by Pvt_Waldo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think this is a fundamental difference between even the most passionate Microsoft Windows user... In GNU/Linux and Unix in general, the desktop is a person thing. We change it to fit our needs, our key bindings, our window dressing, our themeable widgets.


    LOL I guess you're not a Windows user to make that kind of broad assumption. A lot of people customize thier desktops with backgrounds, layouts, dual monitor layouts, winamp/trillian/etc. set just so, what shortcut icons are on the desktop and what in the toolbar, etc.

    To assume a Windows desktop isn't/can't be customized is naive and biased.
  36. photo of linus playing on his laptop... by mardoen · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... here (linus torvalds playing frozen bubble at linux.conf.au). and you can get a glimpse of his desktop.

  37. Jobs by Durandal64 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As a Mac user, I'd be extremely interested to see what third-party system utilities, if any, he has installed on his machine, especially given the apparent hostility Apple has to user-interface modifications.

  38. Re:Linus by LnxAddct · · Score: 3, Informative

    He uses RedHat and Suse. One at home and one at the office. His net worth in Red Hat stock is something like $20 million and Suse isn't quite as much but its up there. The founder of Suse is a god parent (perhaps some other relation but I think thats it) of one of his children, but that happened before Suse was Suse.He has good connections with all the distros but these are his two main ones, which makes sense considering one of these will most likely be the defacto standard in the business world one day.
    Regards,
    Steve

  39. Speculation... by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 5, Funny

    Linus Torvalds: Uses blackbox on three monitors, all full of Xterms running vi. The background is a roll of toilet paper, edited in The Gimp to look like a roll of Transmeta, RedHat and VA Linux stock shares.

    Bill Gates: Last night's build of longhorn. Has 5 monitors: one for the PowerPoint slideshow he's rehearsing, one for Outlook, and three for all the extra clocks, sliders, gizmos, icons, etc. that Longhorn puts on the desktop. His background is one of the default WinXP images.

    George W. Bush: Cheney and Rumsfeld won't let him touch the "big kid computers", but he has an Etch-a-Sketch with a caricature of Saddam Hussein sitting on a canister of nerve gas.

    Steve Jobs: 3 21" Apple Cinema displays. Beta build of OSX 10.4 ("Puma"). Only has one icon on the desktop, but damn if it doesn't look *really cool*.

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  40. Bruce Tognazzini by Grincho · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm very curious to see Bruce "Tog" Tognazzini's, him being an interaction design guru 'n' all. For that matter, I wouldn't mind seeing any of the alleged experts' from the Nielson Norman Group.

  41. Sounds like a Learning Style by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Informative

    Some people only learn well visually.
    Some people only learn well verbally.
    Most people can learn well both ways, usually with a slight preference either way.

    If the preference goes far enough, it's classified as a learning disability, or 'alternate learning style'.

    Given the trouble Bush has with a teleprompter, it's pretty clear he has trouble with visual learning, most likely a visual processing delay. Moore's claims would support his preference for a verbal learning style.

    But what I want to know is when did it become OK to make fun of people for their learning disabilites? I thought Hollywood Liberals were sensitive and caring? I guess it's OK to pick on disabled people if they're conservatives.

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    1. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by dave420 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      It's OK to pick on people like Bush if they're in a very important job, where his linguistic and logical shortcomings can have a serious impact on the rest of the world.

      He's President. Surely he should be able to pronounce "nuclear", eat pretzels without choking, and not make up words on the spot.

      How can anyone defend such a poor excuse for a politician? Every time he steps up to the podium it looks like an episode of Days of Our Lives gone bad. He can't even read what everyone else has written for him without getting in a state. Pausing every. Two. Seconds. Trying to. Add. Emphasis. Incorrect. ly.

      It doesn't take a genius to realise when someone shouldn't be in office. Even Bush himself admitted he shouldn't be there.

    2. Re:Sounds like a Learning Style by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 3, Funny

      I suppose it was Bush's difficulty in dealing with written information that stopped him learning who the president of India was, or Pakistan?

      You can pretend that Bush is just a genius masquerading as a dimwit all you want, but if he looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, chances are he is a fucking duck.

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  42. I'm sure he runs Jesux... by ErnstKompressor · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's what all the Christian Hackers use...

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  43. Re:Elitist Prick by phr1 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I'm not sure about GNU Screen. He does use that thing where you get virtual terminals by hitting alt-F1, alt-F2, etc. He spends a lot of his time keeping up with email. He doesn't use netnews or IM or w3m which would probably be an even worse productivity sink for him. He uses Rmail (the built-in Emacs mail reader) for email, not a separate client.

    I don't think he feels "too cool to use a window system", but rather just doesn't feel like he needs one for what he does. He's the author of an old Lisp machine window system and has written plenty of X code, so it's not like the idea of a window system is unknown or scary to him.

    Part of his setup's weirdness is because he travels a lot and has limited net access on the road. He does very little online. Instead, if he visits you at your company or university, he'll typically plug his laptop into your ethernet and spend a few minutes downloading his unread email (however many hundred messages that is) into it. Then he unplugs and reads the email offline while going on his way, spooling his replies onto disk. Then at his next stop, he plugs in again, uploads his replies to the old email and downloads new mail that's arrived since the last stop. He usually doesn't use web browsers. If you mail him a URL he should see, he prefers if you send him a text dump of the contents along with it. If he only gets the URL and thinks it's likely to be interesting, he emails it to a special daemon he's set up back home, that retrieves the URL's text contents and dumps it into his next batch of email. Images? What images?

    All in all it actually seems like a pretty practical system, less conducive to wasting time web surfing than what most of us are used to, but he doesn't care about that.

  44. Some "famous" desktops here... by snugge · · Score: 3, Interesting

    http://unix.se/gallery/folk Dennis Ritchie, Jordan K. Hubbard, Jon "maddog" Hall, Rasmus Lerdorf etc.

  45. Re:Bill Gates' Super Secret Private Laptop by Chuqmystr · · Score: 5, Funny

    Amazing! GW get's hotmail on this thing?

  46. I suspect W's desktop by Dracos · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...has the name "Fisher-Price" on it somewhere.

    1. Re:I suspect W's desktop by TeknoHog · · Score: 4, Funny
      ...has the name "Fisher-Price" on it somewhere.

      Yeah, like everyone else who runs XP.

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  47. Re:The desktop is a personal thing by swillden · · Score: 3, Insightful

    To assume a Windows desktop isn't/can't be customized is naive and biased.

    To think that "customization" means the same thing to Windows and *nix users demonstrates inexperience with *nix.

    A "custom" Windows desktop is like a custom van -- some furniture, a lifted roof, some art on the sides and windows. A "custom" Linux desktop is more like a custom airplane -- it *probably* has two wings and an engine, but there are exceptions.

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  48. Re:Fits the pattern. by NateTech · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Doesn't say much for Harvard or Yale then does it?

    That MBA didn't get him his jobs, his political connections did. (Like most of us.)

    He's run at least one company into the ground before becoming President, which says he wasn't paying much attention at Harvard. (Not to mention he knew he'd still have money even if all of his workers were unemployed.)

    Come to think of it, doesn't say much for the thoughtfulness of the people who voted for him either -- thinking that he was somehow qualified to do the job because his father was.

    His father was a WWII vet, spent decades in Ambassadorships and eventually headed the CIA before becoming President. I can see a lot of reasons to "hire" a person like that for the Presidency.

    His son, on the other hand, slacked off through Yale and Harvard on Grandpa's money, snorted cocaine through much of that process, went AWOL from his Guard unit, ran a successful oil business into the ground... and people adore him more than his dear-old-dad.

    Sad.

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  49. Re:Oh nooooo! by C10H14N2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Saved us from Carter?

    The Carter administration had its problems, to say the least, but in economic terms, he left office with real gains in GDP of 14% never experiencing contraction. Reagan left up 25%, with two years of contraction and a tripled national debt. Bush I left up a pathetic 5%--one third the gains of Carter, the last year with contraction and 38% more debt. Together, Reagan and Bush increased the national debt by 430%. Clinton left with an economy having gained 33% and not a single year of contraction, admittedly the debt increased the same as under Bush I, but over twice the time. Nixon-Ford left with a net gain of 14%, with two years of contraction and 56% more debt, compared to Kennedy-Johnson over the same amount of time leaving with gains of 43% with no contraction and only 20% more debt. Roosevelt in nine years managed to leave with an economy 226% larger than that he inheirited from Hoover, who commandeered a 25% contraction.

    Are we seeing a pattern here?

    Even if we credit Reagan and Bush with expansion--they increased the debt by over three trillion dollars in doing it. When Bush left office, the economy was 7.1 trillion. Over the whole of ReaganBush, the economy grew by 38%--by increasing the debt to practically 50% of GDP. Terrific. What an accomplishment.

  50. Re:Oh nooooo! by C10H14N2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My point was that the "Democrats are bad" argument posed by a certain poster was rather unfounded as the Dems have been at the helm during the greatest crises and the greatest economic recoveries. The Republicans have been in power during the greatest political and military clusterfucks and economic contractions...so one could argue that saying "Democrats are bad, we can't afford another one" is simply based in fantasy. Carter had a better economic record than Daddy Bush, for godssake, and he's the Republican's punching bag for economics.

  51. CowboyNeal's desktop of course. by DocSnyder · · Score: 3, Funny
    Whose Desktop Would You Most Like To See:

    (_) Bill Gates
    (_) Linus Torvalds
    (_) George W. Bush
    (_) Darl McBride
    (_) Richard M. Stallman
    (_) The Pope
    (_) CowboyNeal

    I bet CowboyNeal would win. ;)

  52. Re:SteveBallmer's desktop... by Cackmobile · · Score: 5, Funny

    i reckon he'd have a smithers style startup screen. Naked bill gates saying 'you are good at turning me on'

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    -- Karma Karma Karma Karma, Karma Chameleon - Boy George
  53. longest presidential vacation in 32 years by jub · · Score: 3, Informative

    wow, that took all of .45 seconds to google:

    longest presidential vacation in 32 years

    let's see what another .19 seconds gets us:

    Bush has taken 250 days off as of August 2003. That's 27% of his presidency spent on vacation. ...and, as others have pointed out, FDR was physically sick.