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SCO Lists Specific Code-Infringement Claims
mugnyte writes "Those tireless folks at groklaw have transcribed and published the documents from the latest IBM/SCO hearing. In it, the exact lines of the supposed Dynix / AIX / Linux logic are given. SCO claimed that Linux's read copy update, journaling file system, enterprise volume management system, AIO (Asynchronous I/O), and "scatter gather" I/O code had been derived from either AIX or Dynix/ptx. Now we can take a look at what SCO thinks makes Linux an enterprise-ready platform started at 2.4, stealing away their market share. However, IBM released these things under the GPL ... so what license did IBM really have from SCO to do this? Which raises the question, What license did SCO have from Novell to disallow this?"
Well, first of all, I think that if Darl did know he was lying and was lying, that's even worse.
Clearly, he lied. Now if he is an unconscious liar, and doesn't realize when he's lying, then we're really in trouble.
Because, absolutely, it was a lie. They said he knew SCO code was there.
So I hope he knew he was lying, because if he didn't, and just went in some kind of crazy, psychological breakdown, then we are really in trouble.
Clearly, you know, I'm a minister. Why do people lie? Because they're liars. He is lying in this case; he's lied several times. I believe he lied about IBM.
C'mon, who wants to pull an all-nighter and see how many of these infringing lines we can have changed by the morning?
And I wasted all my karma whoring, funny, anti-SCO lines on the OTHER SCO story today!
Tequila: It's not just for breakfast anymore!
who wants to bet SCO sues the government next for not agreeing with them that its infringment of IP...
And then we're looking in stdio.h, and then stdlib.h, and ustat.h, utmp.h, zlib.h, tux.h, hesiod.h!!!
g hh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaa!!!
And then odbcinst.h, random.h, utime.h, umsdos_fs.h! And reboot.h, reiserfs_fs.h, irda.h, and errno.h!!!
All the way to the kernel source code!
Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
People deliberately lie for two reasons: To get what they want, and avoid conflict. I think he falls into the first category. He sure as hell doesn't belong in the second.
Mod "Overrated" instead of replying "I disagree with you," you coward.
So now they've shown the code. By tomorrow morning, we'll have Linus, AT&T, Novell, etc showing that nothing is wrong with it. And most interestingly, according to the countdown, they only 3 hours to file suit if they're going to follow through on their 90 promise, yet its 7:45pm here in California and all courts east of here are closed. The only way they can file suit now is to do so in Hawaii where its only 4:45pm (they don't honor daylight savings time). Of course, they only have another 15min. I hope their legal counsel has offices in Hawaii.
The only thing necessary for Micro$oft to triumph is for a few good programmers to do nothing". North County Computers
On another source code front, I found the Windows Source Code here although I don't think the guy hosting the site is gonna like getting his server hosed by slashdotters....
(yea, a repeat from the OTHER SCO story...)
Tequila: It's not just for breakfast anymore!
There once was a man from Utah
He wanted to wreck our future
He ran out of luck
And then went bankrupt
So they then took away his 'puter
There once was a man named Darl
He had a real evil snarl
He sent us a notice
But his claims our bogus
And now we wait for his fall
There once was a man from SCO
He had nowhere to go
He went real beserk
Now nothing will work
And soon he will say UH OH!
Marge, get me your address book, 4 beers, and my conversation hat.
SCO Submits
Stolen IP to the Court
Court Laughs Hard; Craps Pants.
SCO spend too much time shooting with all the wrong ammo.
Not entirely accurate.
IN fact: SCO has spent too much time shooting blanks.
And like the committing any other crime, eventually someone in charge is going to realize you're only shooting blanks and will send in the SWAT Team/Shock Troops/Storm Troopers and blow you into surprisingly insignificant pieces with extreme prejudice.
I propose that after the dust settles some enterprising young folks should pick up pieces of the rubble and sell them on eBay for a suitably ludicrous amount.
Perhaps a momument should be erected to their eternal overconfidence and supreme stupidity, complete with a Wall Of Imbecility detailing the most choice of Quotes from Darl McBride-of-Satan and his PR Flacks/Legal Vultures.
Visit CryptoGnome in his home.
Ladies and Gentlemen of this supposed jury, Linux's accusers would certainly want you to believe my client has stolen code from SCO, and they make a good case. Hell, I almost felt pity myself. But Ladies and Gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider.
Ladies and Gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk who carried a gun and ran from the mob. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it. That does not make sense. Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot-tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor with a bunch of two-foot-tall Ewoks. That does not make sense.
But more important, you have to ask yourself what does this have to do with this case. Nothing. Ladies and Gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case. It does not make sense. Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company producer and entertainer and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca. Does that make sense? Ladies and Gentlemen I am not making any sense. None of this makes sense.
And so you have to remember when you're in that jury room deliberating and conjugating the GPL, does it make sense? No. Ladies and Gentlemen of this supposed jury it does not make sense. If Chewbacca lives on Endor you must acquit.
I know Linux seems guilty. But ladies and gentlemen this is Chewbacca. Now think about that for one minute. That does not make sense. Why am I talking about Chewbacca when a free operating system is on the line? Why? I'll tell you why. I don't know. It doesn't make sense. If Chewbacca does not make sense you must acquit. Here look at the monkey , look at the silly monkey.
The defense rests.
The only one who can really steal a movie is a supporting actor/actress. :-)
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There once was a young slashdot reader
Who utterly failed to grasp meter,
And didn't have time
To understand rhyme --
So even the FPs were 1337er!
sulli
RTFJ.
There you go! This SCO thing is really just a plot by the Linux kernel development group to force everybody to upgrade to 2.6! (Hey, it makes as much sense as the claims made on slashdot that Microsoft intentionally released NT4.0 and Win2K to justify an early end of life for those products!)
"Freedom means freedom for everybody" -- Dick Cheney
fucktastically stupid
That my friend, is the phrase of the day. You win 10,000 SCO Linux runtime licenses... head over to kernel.org to claim your prize!
'The other day I was talking to my 1 year old about my friend Dick. This is what I said. See Dick.'
/. What to say, what to say...
Woo! Wow, this is perfect. My first chance to make a sick joke on
[ten minutes later]
Ah screw it, someone else can figure out the punchline.
In the meantime, "That's disgusting!"
Note to Daryl: Sue the OS/2 users too.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
"That is, assuming those letters WERE sent through the USPS and not the more efficient forms of delivery such as UPS, FedEX, etc."
I got mine in email from their headquarters in Nigeria.
"Derp de derp."
Wow... I didn't know Michael Jackson posted on /.
http://www.temporal-acuity.net/sco/SCO.jpg
Let's see, he's:
Prosecuted Microsoft (Antitrust)
Defended Napster
Represented Gore in 2000
Now his name is hung on the SCO case, and I have to wonder - is he famous for losing? The only thing missing is prosecuting O.J.
Oh no!!!
Not a karma hit!! My life just wont be the same! How am I going to pick up if I dont have excellent karma?? Noooo!!!!! My life revolves around karma!!!
And...and...
Linux is the r0x0r and M$ is the 5ux0r!!!
And...Linus is the greatest genius of all time!!!
And....and..and...I h8 trolls cause Im such a 1337 open source coder and I have to show off how much the trolls better not mess with me...cause Ill own their b0x3|\|
From South Park, Episode 214 "Chef Aid"
Judge Moses: Mr. Johnny Cochrane, your closing argument.
Johnny Cochrane: Ladies and Gentlemen of this deposed jury, Chef's attorney would certainly want you to believe his client wrote Stinky Britches ten years ago, and they make a good case. Hell, I almost felt pity myself. But Ladies and Gentlemen of this deposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider.
[Walks up to a chart stand]
Johnny Cochrane: Ladies and Gentlemen, (Pulls down picture of Chewbacca) this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wooky from the planet Kishic, but Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it. That does not make sense.
Gerald (Whispering): Dammit.
Chef (Whispering): What?
Gerald (Whispering): He's using the Chewbacca defense.
Johnny Cochrane: Why would a Wooky, an eight-foot-tall Wooky, want to live on Endor with a bunch of two-foot-tall Ewoks. That does not make sense. But more important, you have to ask yourself what does this have to do with this case.
[Jury stares in silence]
Johnny Cochrane: Nothing. Ladies and Gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case.
[Gerald sinks back and covers his eyes]
Johnny Cochrane: It does not make sense. Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca. Does that make sense? Ladies and Gentlemen I'm am not making any sense. None of this makes sense. And so you have to remember when you're in that jury room deliberating and conjugating the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No. Ladies and Gentlemen of this deposed jury it does not make sense. If Chewbacca lives on Endor you must acquit. The defense rests.
[Silence]
Judge Moses: OK then.
If someone tells you they are a pathological liar, should you believe them?
So out of curiousity I randomly looked at some of the lines mentioned and according to SCO .. Lines copied:
init/main.c (Tab 18) 30-33
30
31 #include <asm/io.h>
32 #include <asm/bugs.h>
33
But ofcourse..
[alk]
Who knew. Chewy is a pedophile..
I don't believe you. You're lying.
print("Hello");
Then K&R came along, added some headers, an 'f' to "print", wrapped it in a main() function and added " World." They called their version "Hello World."
Consequently, I own all rights to all C programs, since they are all derived from "Hello World" which is derived from my "Hello" program. Everyone using anything written in C can pay me $699.00 now, or $2000.00 sometime after I extend the original discounted price 3 to 27 times.
I expect to be invoicing you all real soon now. Or you can avoid the rush and just reply here with your credit card information.
Thank you for your business.
When you're too lazy to do your homework, what do you do? You cheat.
uh, i usually just don't do it. if you're too "lazy" to do your homework, you're probably too lazy to cheat.
>> across 10 or more companies I've worked at -- were ethical
No, they were just good at lying.
> If you are aprogrammer you might only have to lie once or twice a week.
Surely your boss asks "How long until you're done?" more than twice a week!
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
> Most of the people I've worked with -- the vast majority, above and below me, including presidents, vice-presidents, general managers, directors, managers, and individual contributors, across 10 or more companies I've worked at -- were ethical. There have been some exceptions, but they number at most a half dozen over my 20+ years in the software business.
Geez... what planet did you get your gig on?
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
Wow. Next thing you know you'll tell me Apple is making a version of iTunes for Windows.
The ______ Agenda
If a someone is a they then I think that person has bigger problems than lying.
SCO Group announced today that the Open source community had code to create progams of mass infringement.
"We will find this code of Mass Infringement," A SCO spokesperson said. "They've got to be hiding the code somewhere. It's just a matter of time before we find it."
Last year SCO Group waged war against the Open Source Community claiming that it had Code of Mass Infringement.
You must be stoned.
Actually people deliberatly lie for one reason: to get what they want. If I'm lying to avoid conflict or generate conflict, I'm still lying to get what I want.
What about people who tell the truth? Why do they do that?
I don't have my credit card number on me right now but I've got a Nigerian friend who has my account details. You can ask him for them if you want.
"She's a West Texas girl, just like me" - G.W Bush Iraqis
If you are aprogrammer you might only have to lie once or twice a week.
Oh, come on. How often do you write comments or documentation?
FreeBSD
OpenBSD
NetBSD
Darwin
FreeDos
Windows 2000
Windows NT
#include stdio.h
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this [points to presentation board] is a Penguin. It lives in very cold places and swims in near freezing waters. That does not make sense. Why would any animal live in such cold places, when clearly, a nice tropical beach would be a much nicer place to live?! It does not make sense! What does this have to do with copyright infringement? NOTHING! It does not make sense! A penguin lives in cold places, and it does NOT make sense. None of this makes any sense. If a penguin does not need mits, you must ACQUIT!
-- "Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
They couldn't think up a lie quick enough.
Free as in mason.
BSD! Doesn't SCO even honor the dead?
- lying bastards
- code stealers
- stock dumpers
- thieving lunatics
- satan's children
- backstabbing assholes
- raving madmen
- poor losers
- fraudulent claims
- microsoft's puppet
And just for a little fun, random assortments:Feel free to add your own and try to get Google to link to them under many bad terms. This is just done as humor, and once SCO closes shop or is absorbed by a company who just wants everything to stop from McBride and his bad of insane asylum rejects, there's no need for us to continue. The misunderstandings that they perpetuate must in turn be restructured against them if we can't correct them. Remember, only you can stop FUD. Only you.
Too right. I was quietly chuckling at an ad the other day. A soothing voice explaining how 'our' commitment to something or other was feeding the starving millions and curing cancer and ultimately guaranteed peace for all mankind or something and then suddenly there's the Microsoft logo and I'm like 'WTF?', you guys aren't bringing me any peace at all, you just make me really angry and .... oops sorry.
Now wash your hands.
It reminds me of a tv-shopping ad I once saw, where some guy was selling a "computer program" that did a (phonetic I think) search in the hebrew version of the bible. ;)
As examples, he said that the word "Hitler" is somewhere in the bible and some other interesting buzzwords. Perhaps IBM should use this program to search for prior art in some other ancient scripture?
Get your licenses here!
This one small quote confuses me..
"These have been improperly copied into Linux.."
If the code was copied wrong, how would it function? Could it be possible that a person wrote code similar to what another has done? I always thought that if code was wrong, the program would have problems. That could be why Linux users don't have the crash issues as Windows users. The code is not correct.
It's more like the WWF..
C'mon Professor, you know you want to see an MTV DeathMatch between Linus and McBride! Admit it!
Sig it.
Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with the source code in question - we did.
winks at Darl McBride
But you can't hold a whole company responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole development system? And if the whole development system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of all operating systems in general? I put it to you, Darl - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!
Leads the Linux community out of the hearing, all humming the Star-Spangled Banner.
"Music is everybody's possession. It's only publishers who think that people own it." - John Lennon.
*snap* ;)
once he concludes that a different CEO candidate exists who could return value more effectively.
The purpose of a CEO is to return a value? Shit, I can do that in a line of C! They should hire me!
Bow, nigger. h
They want dissension in the open source camp.
Alright, I want you to post more sentries. And tell the men their wine ration is halved. Tell the centurions any discipline problems are to be dealt with harshly!
Thanks, man. That's the most concise and useful how-to I've ever seen on the internet.
Information wants to be $1.98/lb.
If have noone - you are sad indeed.
The loners of this world disagree.
So they can sleep at night.
So you say they lie in their sleep?
Tell the centurions any discipline problems are to be dealt with harshly!
Am I the only one having "Life of Brian" flashes here?
"Fwow McBwide to the floor, centuwion, vewy woughly!"
"And sue him, sir?"
"Oh, yes, swap a wawsuit on him wight away!"
This is confusing. The problem is that the meaning of "End User" is ambiguous. I have edited to make this more clear:
Step 1:
Review the SCO IP End User Licensing Agreement (EULA) to understand the terms and conditions and rights granted with the SCO IP License. Please click here to collect underpants
Step 2:
???, and purchase by credit card through our online store. Your underpants will be delivered electronically to the e-mail address specified in your order form.
Step 3:
Profit!