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Next Generation Mail Clients Reviewed
kreide writes "E-mail is the 'killer app' of the Internet; an enormous number of messages are exchanged every day, and while web-based mail has become very popular in recent years, many people still prefer the added speed and flexibility of a mail client application. In this review I compare the next generation of the most popular e-mail clients, including Evolution, KMail, Opera and Mozilla, and their usability in dealing with large number of messages."
RTFA! They review Outlook.
I just ditched my email client, I'm 100% on openwebmail now.
I'm a roaming contractor, so the alternative was trying to manage email clients at several locations, and constantly finding that something (address books, mail archives, etc..) was out of sync.
"Oops, I always forget the purpose of competition is to divide people into winners and losers." - Hobbes
What about Apple's Mail.app?
The author gives his justification for not including Outlook 2003 in the FAQ at the end of the aarticle.
The main justification being that:
Outlook 2002 is fully featured enough to compete, and
Most users with windows will be using outlook 2002 so it is a useful reference.
Get down of that high horse buddy and relax a little
If this is for "Next Generation", there's no reason to include Outlook Express since Microsoft is stopping development on it.
-- Stu
/. ID under 2,000. I feel old now.
There is no review of Pegasus or Eudora
Well, yes, it doesn't support virtual folders in the way that others implement it.
However there is an option called "Current View" (in "View") which allows you to see your inbox in a number of different ways. For example: by sender, by followup flag, by conversation, past seven days.
In addition, you can create and define your own custom views. So if I want to see all messages with the word "fish" in them, with one or more attachements, where I've been cc'ed and posted in the last week, then I can do so.
Which sounds very similar to virtual folders to me.
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As someone else mentioned, Microsoft's current mail client is not Outlook XP, it's currently Outlook 2003.
There are also several innaccuracies in his review of the product.
1.) Outlook does indeed support emoticons. Use Word as your default text editor in Outlook.
2.)You CAN forward attachments, both in line and otherwise...
3.) Outlook can do key binding... it's under Options, Customize.
4.) I've been creating and managing mail lists in Outlook since Outlook 98...
Microsoft has already stated that they've stopped updating their Outlook Express software. It wouldn't make sense to classify it as "next-generation" when it's not going to have one.
For example:
As part of the stat breakdown in the boxed chart in the review (did you read the article? Please read the article..), Outlook is flagged as not having full index searching.
To wit, `full index searching` has a superscript and is described thusly:
This is true but only half accurate -- in an Exchange environment it is completely possible to enable full text indexing of everything on the Exchange server. It just isn't usable on your home system as a standalone internet email client.
Even if you could use full text indexing at home, in a POP3/IMAP environment
Assuming you do IMAP and keep most of your data on the server the argument becomes, `I don't want to have to read/download everything to find a single message`. The counter argument is simply, `Where do you think you're gonna keep your full text index? On your ISP's system?`
Anyway, full text index searching isn't something I see as viable for a home platform -- and if you're talking about in a business or enterprise setting, Outlook does support it - through Exchange Server.
Are you daft? Exchange 5.5, 2000 and 2003 support IMAP and POP3. Funny how my linux box running KMail connects just fine to my Exchange 2003 server at the office... I must be doing something strange!
The Opera M2 client is what I use every day for newsgroups, mailing lists, pop3 mail, imap mail.
I know it inside out... the review makes two mistakes in the matrix of features.
Firstly Opera does have both audio and visual mail notification.
Secondly Opera Mail does have the ability to assign keyboard shortcuts of your choice.
Thirdly it does support emoicons.
If the reviewer gets so much wrong about Opera then there is no telling how many other mistakes he has made.
From the FAQ in the article:
Q: Why didn't you use the newest version of Microsoft Outlook? This doesn't seem like a fair comparison.
A: The only reason Outlook was even included was to serve as a reference with what is commonly available for the majority of users (which still run Windows unfortunately) today.
Using the latest Office 2003 would not have done most of them any good, as upgrading can cost hundreds of dollars (or more!), and might not be an option for some time. After reading the review they can, however, immediately decide it is time to try out one of the alternatives, several of which are multi platform.
Also, I only had Office XP at hand when writing the review, which only helps to better illustrates my point I think.
"I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy"
Mozilla's support for IMAP is OK, but to not see Mulberry on this list is a big shame! It is the best GUI IMAP client currently available. Outlook's IMAP is HORRIBLE & the Kmail & Opera aren't quite there yet either.
For what it is worth, I actually use PINE (which is an even better IMAP client than mulberry). It is a shame not to see some very good text-based clients such as pine and mutt in this comparison as well.
And that's about the only reason to use Gnus for mail, other than the fact that you don't have to leave Emacs. Try to browse through the Gnus Manual and see how many different configuration choices you have. I prefer Netscape Messenger for reading mail and news, but that's just because I only need the basic features.
"Until you do what you believe in, how do you know whether you believe in it or not?" -- Leo Tolstoy
No it doesn't. You do check your emails everyday by opening your email client, right? So why wouldn't you open your IM client, to receive all those incoming messages, that are stored on the server until you log in... (Jabber, Yahoo, MSN, all have this feature).
I'll do the stupid thing first and then you shy people follow...
Well, for one thing, Outlook runs only on Windows and many of us here do not run this OS. If you are on Windows, then feel free to use Outlook, even though personally I can't see why anyone would want to run it unless he has to connect to an Exchange server.
While it's true that Outlook is becoming more secure, having the possibility to script a mail client is not the best of ideas if you ask me. I prefer to stay clear of script-enabled email client since I don't ever need that feature. (I know, it's disabled by default now in Outlook)
Also, outlook isn't free. Which is irrelevant if your boss pays for your software but kinda sucks at home. Unless you copy it of course...
IP Therefore I am.
Actually, Evolution is in its 1.5x (unstable) series. You can check out the latest news from the evolution front here. There is also a roadmap at here. I have been using the unstable branch (from CVS) for quite sometime now, and it is quite stable for me. It is now integrated by default to Spamassasin - so it does spam filtering quite nicely.
. ics.
The roadmap is also available at webcal://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/roadmap
There is a definite lack of predefined fields in the address book - no place to store phone numbers or addresses, for example. It does have a feature that lets you add ad-hoc fields (user attributes) to the contact's record, but there isn't a way to make all the contacts have the same add-on fields without defining them for each individual contact. It is also capable of using vCards, but it only seems to get the name and email address out of them, ignoring all the other info.
If it wasn't for the poor address book, I'd be using it on my Windows box as well as my Linux system.
While looking at your Inbox,
Tools | Options | first tab is Preferences | E-mail Options.
Area called `On Replies and Forwards`. Dropdown list called `When forwarding a message`. Options are:
Strike out `is used` and write in `can be used` -- I routinely disable Word as my email editor because I don't want everything Word can to do happen to my email (such as substituting graphical smileys for the universal
The fonts and formatting all work splendidly in Rich Text mode, which is 200% less suck-tastic than HTML mail.
While composing an email -
View | BCC Field
Damn, I know that's hard to find.
Unfortunately for the reviewer, I find Outlook remarkably easy to use, and always have. The reviewer's inability to find these simple, basic pre-installed options in Outlook calls into question the thoroughness of the review of any product listed. I'm just catching these because I happen to use Outlook fairly often.
They do compare Outlook but only Outlook 2002 not Outlook 2003 which is a completely different product. I've been using it for a couple of weeks and I actually like it a lot. Spam filtering, lets you prevent HTML (by default doesn't download images, etc from internet), new look that is much more user friendly, easier to create rules, better searching, etc. To say you are doing a fair review and not compare the latest offering is just biased.
And I am not a Microsoft employee or shill. I prefer Linux on the server and Windows and Office on the desktop. It has nothing to do with politics, cost, freedom or anything else. It has to do with what I am comfortable using.
Under the review for Outlook, the author says, "Blind carbon copy (BCC) does not seem to be supported at all." However, Outlook does
support Bcc. Just like in Evolution, if you go to View->Bcc Field, it will show the Bcc field below the Cc field. If you do not have the Bcc Field present (to conserve screen real estate), when you create a new e-mail, if you click to "To..." button, a "Select Names" window pops up and allows you to enter e-mail addresses in the To, Cc, and Bcc fields.
"Mail import: Evolution can only import from UNIX mbox files and some older versions of Netscape. This makes migration from Windows clients such as Outlook Express problematic to say the least. The easiest solution might in fact be using KMail to migrate the mail to mbox format and then import it into Evolution."
For me the easiest route to getting people out of outlook express and into any open source email client is to open an IMAP email account for them at fastmail.fm or runbox. Then I setup the account under outlook and move all the email to that account. Since IMAP is server-based, they can switch to Linux and all their email is just there.
Then, they can do one of two things. If they are moving permanently to Linux, move all of their emails to the local mbox from the IMAP one and set up their pop service with whoemver they have as their email provider. Or if they are double-booting, continue with the IMAP setup, which allows them to email from both sides of their computing world and makes the transition to full-time Linux user easier.
Pragmatism as an ideology is not particularly pragmatic in the long term. Keep it in mind when you dismiss Free Software
It's not an elegant alternative to E-Mail in any event, even if the IM server will "queue" the messages for you.
The main point is that IM is not even close to a viable alternative to E-Mail and it was somewhat off the wall for him to suggest so.
- It's not the Macs I hate. It's Digg users. -
Check out gmane. Only way to deal with high-volume mailing lists.
I prefer mutt for my mail, but I've started to use gnus for my news.
Je ne parle pas francais.
I'm not a microsoft support but I think it is a little remiss not to include the next generation of Outlook in your review. It seems to be the "most popular" client everywhere I've ever worked.
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SIGH. About six comments are moderated 3 or better with this exact same sentiment. So not only did the posters not read the article, neither did the moderators. While you can argue that his logic is flawed or that he could have included Outlook EXPRESS, he specifically states
The only reason Outlook was even included was to serve as a reference with what is commonly available for the majority of users (which still run Windows unfortunately) today.
Using the latest Office 2003 would not have done most of them any good, as upgrading can cost hundreds of dollars (or more!), and might not be an option for some time. After reading the review they can, however, immediately decide it is time to try out one of the alternatives, several of which are multi platform.
Also, I only had Office XP at hand when writing the review, which only helps to better illustrates my point I think.
ALSO note that the author seems to be focusing on Linux mail clients (or at least AVAILABLE for Linux), which Outlook is NOT (AFAIK...).
The chart in the article shoes mozilla not having visual notifcations of new mail.
I am using thunderbird 0.5 and if you goto
tools/options
and look for show an alert, make sure checked.
ta-da
I use Microsoft Entourage to handle a collection of two IMAP accounts and one POP account. It has a few flaws (randomly stops subscribing to IMAP folders, requires you to download entire messages, including attachments, the address completion seems to include forged spam headers but not half the real senders in my inbox) but on the whole I'm pleased with it. And it's on OS X so there are no worm propblems.
The Linux readers just don't cut it. KMail, which I've used happily with POP accounts, updates IMAP accounts apparently whenever it feels like it. I'll hit the mail check button an 20 minutes later something might happen. Evolution works relatively well for one IMAP account but won't handle the other at all. Neither feels as smooth as Entourage, neither is as feature complete, and surprisingly neither offers transfer progress methods nearly as complete as Entourage's. (Evolution is especially useless for the latter.)
I've barely used Outlook, but Microsoft's Mac unit blows the doors off the Unix competition.
What I'm listening to now on Pandora...
The review claims that BCC is not supported in Outlook. Not true; the field is just not shown by default. You can turn it on under the View menu when composing a message.
The feature list says that Outlook does not support search folders. In Outlook 2003 they are supported. (The review is not technically wrong here, as Outlook 2002 was reviewed. But let's be fair and talk about the latest version of the product.)
Evolution does support importing mail. They're using a development release that's apparently missing the feature for the moment.
The point is that many people do not have access to it and the reviewer is a good example of that. The email clients got reviewed because they were accessible, both to the reviewer and (most of) us.
Actually, IBM Research is working on Reinventing Email, or ReMail. http://www.research.ibm.com/remail/index.html It includes some pretty neat features, which other clients aught to adopt.
Ximian doesn't publish announcements for every beta release on their web site like most volunteer Open Source projects do. However, Evolution *is* under heavy development right now. The next major release (evo 2.0) is supposed to coincide with the release of Gnome 2.6, which should be out in a month or so. It will include a spam filter, better integration with gaim and the Gnome desktop, and a lot of little UI improvements. Unfortunately, it's losing the summary page, so no more reading RSS feeds in Evolution.
If you're feeling adventurous, you can get the latest version from Gnome CVS. If you just want to know what they're working on, read this.
0 1 - just my two bits
Mac OS X comes with Mail.app, haven't seen a better e-mail client yet and I've tried many...
Why doesn't Evolution support importing mailboxes?
Because he's reviewing a severly beta version of Evolution? The version he's using doesn't even refresh the inbox list until you change folders.
Stick with 1.4.5 (which does support importing mailboxes) until 1.5 becomes 1.6
What's so 'next gen' about these clients?
If you really want to try something cool and useful checkout Zoe: http://zoe.nu/
Let's see how the old generation compares:
:-)
New mail notification: Yes.
Encryption: Yes
Follow-ups: Probably not. I have ever used the build-in calendar.
Forward attached/Inline: Yes
Write HTML mail: No
Multiple accounts: Yes
Customizable keybindings: Yes, extremely
Full index search: No, requires an add-on (nnir)
Advanced searching: Yes
IMAP search: Don't know, I don't use IMAP.
Search folders: Yes
Spam filter: No build in spam filter. Good support for external spam filters, and good general filtering ability.
Handle mailing lists: Yes, if I understand it correctly.
Do not download mail rules: Don't know.
Labels for e-mail: No, not if they are talking about RMAIL style labels.
Create filter from message: No
Emoticons: Yes
LDAP: No
Message threading: Yes
Mail storage format: mbox, babyl, mh, usenet, and more...
First, you can't sort email from an IMAP mailbox into another folder. Yes, really. POP sorting works well, but if you use IMAP, then you have to manually move your mail or use server-side sorting.
Second, KDE needs a real LDAP backend. Evolution's LDAP client is fine - you can add, edit, and delete entries as your permissions allow. KAddressBook will only let you search for entries. I maintain a small LAN and I would love for all users to be able to sync their Palms with an OpenLDAP addressbook so that we don't have to push changes to each individual user.
If KMail can get these straightened out, I'd almost consider switching from Gnus. Almost.
Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
Hey! What about OSX's email client? It rocks! And it does some pretty slick backflips as well.....drag a file to icon, it launches an email, file attached. Select some text, hit reply, up comes reply w/ ONLY that selected text quoted... Plus less of a chance of virus emails, to say the least.... I love my Powerbook... skeezix
--I do what I can, I work in the dark.
lesser than pine, lesser than elm, lesser than GNUs and certainly lesser than the stoopid clients compared - Evolution, Kmail, Opera, Mozilla and (hehe) Outlook. Ofcourse, like most other happy mutt users ("happy" is redundant though), I have installed, configured, used and finally uninstalled them all (thanks god its all over). Outlook (hehe) is an exception, it automatically got uninstalled when I deleted windows.
...
Some of the reasons why I hate all the non-mutt clients:
1. WINDOWS BASED: excellent virus support (is that a feature or a bug?) + (correct me if I'm wrong) hardly any fetchmail / procmail / mbox support. BTW, these are not the only reasons for hating (hehe) outlook
2. GUI BASED: 'normally' heavy on system resources + un-necessary dependence on mouse + need to have an Xserver if you wish to check your mails from your colleague's windows machine (who is another building).
3. Text Based: either not as fast or not as configurable as mutt.
- Mutt loads my 9,000 messages (approx.) mbox faster than pine (haven't compared elm/gnus).
- Searching for a particular messages takes me atleast 1/10th the time on mutt because it allows localizing searches and sorting results. Don't ever challenge any mutt user on this one.
- Pine/Elm are not colorful, which is a very usable feature I believe.
- Threading. Don't know if Pine/Elm have it (please correct me if I'm wrong)?
- Mutt allows keybindings for almost everything. So, when I press F7, I see all messages from my friends; Esc F7 -> everything except from my friends; F8 -> Friends + Family; F9 ->
Reasons why I sometimes hate Mutt:
1. doesn't have news support
2. doesn't work if my keyboard is not plugged in (i.e. solely with a mouse)
3. no group object model (yet to be invented)
Someone should do the study again.
v==hal if
I might want to an audio notification--but I might want to first check if (a) I'm sleeping, (b) I'm having a higher priority meeting/phone call, (c) vary the audio notification depending on the email, (d) flash the lights if I'm deaf YIC!, (e) page me, (f) ???
Granted if the program is open source, I can do what I want, but that's frequently too much information. I just want documented hooks, not a whole parts list.
Of course, this was a user review.
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
What about Spruce? I've been using Spruce for years and it's very light weight and fast. It's not at all bloated like all the mailers reviewed in this article.
Yes, it's not build in but a short script i have running as a filter (and a cronjob) and it works 100% accurately.
The actual information on how to set this up can be found via google with "evolution bayesian filter" keywords and its the 3rd link. URL is: http://www.linuxbandwagon.com/evolution-bayesian/
yush
Shame the article does not cover web apps. See Oddpost www.oddpost.com and Convea www.convea.com for two of the best.
In any case, the test does give a fair shake to the older version.
My college runs a Windows Exchange mail server, so I'm limited when I look for e-mail clients. Does anyone know how I can shoehorn my account into a reader that will let me compose in HTML? I have to jump hoops to pull HTML into Outlook 2003.
I find Outlook 2003's spam filtering spotty. Sometimes it captures a message, sometimes it doesn't.
Of importance to admins will be the fact that Outlook 2003 does not play well with some LDAP servers, and it can sometimes throw funny "errors" (warnings in reality) on IMAP mailboxes that can worry lusers.
The menu organization for configuration/customization/settings for Outlook 2003 is horrible and after using it for months I still have to click through different button paths to find the right panel.
Outlook is also a huge resource hog, but that goes without saying, given that it is a modern kitchen-sink app.
If my company had it's own internal IM that didn't require public servers out of our control, it may be feasible
Your company could run its own internal Jabber server. There are lots of clients for the employees, one of which would probably be suitable for or adaptable to the company's environment.
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Promoting critical thinking since 1994.
Using the latest Office 2003 would not have done most of them any good, as upgrading can cost hundreds of dollars (or more!), and might not be an option for some time.
It is $109 here. That's not quite "hundreds of dollars".
Can anyone be pro-Linux and not write such uninformed dribble? Lately, I have really started to notice why a lot of people are just anti-Linux for no good reason. Everything they hear about it comes from maroons like this author.
Believe me, folks. Be responsible when posting to the web. If you act like a zealot, people will automatically and subconciously avoid things you tout on principle.
The article claims that Evolution supports only mbox format. This is incorrect. I haven't been able to find a way to force maildir as the default format, but you can click on any folder and convert it to maildir format. Importing maildir format is as simple as dragging and dropping the directories into Evolution's directory.
"The legitimate powers of government extend only to such acts as are injurious to others." Thomas Jefferson.
Mozilla does more than "Audio only" - it will also pop up a small systray window at you.
It's annoying, and one of the first things that I turn off.
Edit -> Preferences -> Mail & Newsgroups -> Notifications. It's right there.. even in Moz 1.5
This guy that wrote this article doesn't really have any clue. He said he is looking at the Next Generation of E-mail clients yet he is a version behind with Outlook. Also many of the things he said wasn't included in Outlook have been included in Outlook since Outlook 97. He probably didn't even look, but I don't know how you couldn't have seen them because they are right on the title bar or in the admin options.
:: Yes :: Tools > Options > E-mail Options > When Forwarding a Message > ** :: Yes :: Right Click Toolbar > Commands > Keyboard Button :: Yes :: Mailboxes are automatically indexed, as searches are done :: Yes :: It does have this I actually did it a few mins ago :: Yes :: It definitly searchs folders, but if he means a predefined pattern search Outlook 2003 does that too :: Yes :: Right click in XP and greater on a message and press create rule automatically :: No :: Okay so he got 1 out of 6 not bad.
Forward attached/Inline
Customizable keybindings
Full index search
IMAP search
Search folders
Handle mailing lists
Emoticons
All of these are based on my Outlook 2000 version so unless they removed features in a new version, which I doubt, this guy didn't put much work into this article.
He has lost all credibility with me.
Yeah, I gotta agree with you here. Hell, most people I know/work with don't even really know what IM is...but, they all have email. Not to mention that many companies block the IM ports as a security risk...
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
viruses, not virii
Great little tool...
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
How can he justify reviewing an unreleased version of Opera M2, but then review an older version of Outlook because most Windows users don't have it yet?
The unreleased version of Opera M2 is free (with two small Google ads) while Outlook 2003 costs a few hundred dead prime ministers. I very much doubt that the budget of this review had several hundred dead prime ministers in it.;)
Is this a sigs-optional kind of place? 'Cause I am totally down with that if you know what I mean.
Nothing you do is going to be fast when your mail database is that big. But the most efficient mail program I know of is the (now ancient) MH mail system. You could probably get it to run under cygwin. The problem with all other mail systems is that they're database systems, and you've got a database several orders of magnitude larger than what they're designed to work with. MH just deals in files and directories, so you get whatever the OS can do, performance-wise.
Were you paying attention? View|BCC. That's not exactly four levels deep.
Amen.
I think it's sad that Eudora gets short-shifted so much in reviews of email clients. There are 2 major things that keep me coming back to Eudora over anything else. First off, the auto-collapsing folders. I'm certain I'm not the only person here who has mail archives dating back more then 5 years. As such, I've built up quite a folder heirarchy, and when moving messages into their proper places, if things don't collapse, it's a LOT of scrolling (and I hate to sort mail via right click, send to, navigate through!) I love that I can grab a message, hover it over "lists" hover over "Yahoo!" and drop into my xosl folder, then 'lists' collapses back so I can get to my 'friends' heirarchy for the next message I need to sort without having to scroll up at all.
Secondly, I really like the filtering, specifically the manual filters. There are certain lists I get (such as NTBUGTRAQ) where I want to leave it in my inbox, read it, then file it away. With Eudora, once I've read it, I just CTRL-J it, and it gets filtered where it needs to. These two big time savers are the main things I hope to see in some of the OSS packages, and if I ever got the time, I'd love to work on incorporating, but alas, too busy to go through the source tree on any of the big projects. (Manual filters w/ hotkeys may be in other clients, but the folder collapsing thing is my biggest reason for never sticking too long with any other program to figure out how to do it).
-- If you can't laugh at yourself, someone else will do it for you.
That would be bug 140800 ("switch for plain text/html in compose window"). You'll need to copy-n-paste the URL as Bugzilla doesn't accept referrers from Slashdot.
Alex Bischoff
HTML/CSS coder for hire
I like Evolution. But it has proven unstable, at least when using the MS/exchange plug-in (which
my employer has licensed). So we tried to get
support...
Ximian says, in effect, that you have to stop
updating your system from your distro (RedHat,
SuSE, etc.) and instead use their distribution
of gnome and other libraries exclusively.
What they actually say is that they only support
Evolution if you also Ximian Desktop, or at
least their home-brewed versions gnome, glib2, etc. available on their server (e.g., using
red-carpet). The catch: This causes massive
RPM version conflicts because their versions
use different version number/names,
and the auto-update tools provided by RedHat
or SuSE don't work any longer.
I understand their problem: They have to assume
certain updates & features in external libraries
and can't test with all possible combinations.
So they say "get everything from us". Of course,
if another application vendor did the same thing
it would be impossible to use both applications!
What do other app vendors do (e.g., in the Sun
world)? They spell out which patches or updated
library versions *from the OS vendor* must be
installed to have a supported system. I wish
Ximian did that for Evolution!
Doing a little text formatting with HTML adds a trvial amount to the size of the message. (At least it should, making some text bold doesn't require the ridiculous amount of HTML that some mail clients add to messages.)
.msg format, it comes out to 183KB.
If it simply used HTML tags to format messages, rather than composing the entire message as if it were a website, and then didn't use the obscene html that Outlook uses, it probably wouldn't be a problem. As it stands, though, I regularly get email that runs around 23KB for a simple 2 lines, 1 link, a small intro, and signature. Saving the same message as an RTF file in WordPad results in a 1.6KB file if I preserve the headers (since it's mass-mailed to everyone in the office), plain text is 1.25KB. The only html required in the message is for the link, and most mail readers should be able to interpret a link for you from plain text.
Once in a while, 23KB isn't a problem. Considering, though, that I don't clean out my business email very often (which saves my ass more often than not), it adds up over time. As an added bonus, though, if I save the same message out in Outlook's
A simple pair of anchor tags would suffice for a link, and bold and italic tags. Hell, let me use as much or as little html as I want, but we don't need an email message to be a full-on html page with markup that looks like it was generated by MS Word (which is probably the case anyway).
-PainKilleR-[CE]
Evolution supports maildir (as well as MH). Just right-click the folder and change it's properties. It's nice that way, if you prefer to have mixed types of mailboxes...
Here's a text mirror
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The Next Generation of mail clients
(Note: This review first appeared in Linux Weekly News.
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Introduction
E-mail is the "killer app" of the Internet; an enormous amount of messages are exchanged every day, and while web-based mail has become very popular in recent years, many people still prefer the added speed and flexibility of a mail client application.
The mail client is in principal a very simple application which allows the user to read and send mail, but all modern mail clients include a host of features to help better manage the ever-increasing number of messages we have to deal with. Graphical mail clients allows for easy sorting of messages into folders, easy searching on a number of criteria, address book management and automatic filtering based on custom-defined rules.
The development of new features does not stop there, however, and the next generation of mail clients includes features such as virtual folders (also known as search folders), faster and more flexible searching, easier creation of filters and lots of small things to make common tasks quicker. This review is a comparison of the features available in the next generation of mail clients and their usability in dealing with large number of messages.
Reviewed mail clients:
(click on icon to jump directly to review)
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Evolution 1.5.2 (unstable)
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KMail 1.6 (part of KDE 3.2)
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Opera 7.50 (preview 2)
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Mozilla 1.6 / Thunderbird 0.5
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Microsoft Outlook 2002 SP-1 (part of Microsoft Office XP)
Except for Evolution (the latest stable version is recommended over the tested development version), all of these mail clients were quite stable and I did not encounter any problems which would preclude me from recommending them for daily use.
Note that Outlook has been included for completeness, both because of its popularity and for use as a reference. I did not include Eudora, even though the latest version does include unique features such as a Content Concentrator, Contextual Filing, MoodWatch and Email Usage Stats, as it is both closed source and not available for any UNIX platforms.
Quick overview of supported features:
Evolution KMail Opera Mozilla Outlook
Mail import No Yes Windows only Windows only Windows only
New mail notification Audio only Yes Audio only Audio only Yes
Encryption Yes Yes No Yes Yes
Follow-ups1 Yes No No No Yes
Forward attached/Inline Yes Yes Yes Yes Only inline
Write HTML mail Yes No No Yes Yes
Multiple accounts Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Customizable keybindings No Yes No No No
Full index search2 Yes Disabled Yes No No
Advanced searching Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
IMAP search Yes No No Yes No
Search folders Yes Yes Yes No No
Spam filter Yes No4 Yes Yes Yes
Handle mailing lists3 Yes Yes Yes No No
Do not download mail rules Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Labels for e-mail Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Create filter from message Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Emoticons No No No Yes No
LDAP Yes Yes No Yes Yes
Message threading Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Mail storage format mbox mbox/Maildir mbox mbox Proprietary
1. Follow-up search refers to being able to easily create entries in the calendar directly from an e-mail..
2. Full index search refers to all messages, including body text, being indexed and searchable without reading everything from storage.
3. Handle mail
Is it because I love Linux that much? No, it's because I can no longer live without Mutt.
You can run Mutt in Cygwin, and it's already included in its distribution. Didja know?
"Note that Outlook has been included for completeness, both because of its popularity and for use as a reference. I did not include Eudora, even though the latest version does include unique features such as a Content Concentrator, Contextual Filing, MoodWatch and Email Usage Stats, as it is both closed source and not available for any UNIX platforms."
From the very beginning he makes it clear that Outlook is just there for one reason - because it's the most popular/widely used client. At the same time he explains that Eudora is not included because it is closed-source and not available for any UNIX. The same goes for Outlook. It is Win32 only, and not available for UNIX.
Again, he only included it as a reference. He included what most people are using, and then listed the e-mail clients that were actually the focus of the review/overview.
He clearly states his intentions before the review begins. Did you even bother to read the review - even the introduction - before shouting about FUD or hypocrisy?
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3) Why do all the open source email clients look exactly like Outlook? I've never particularily liked that view of email. Can't anyone think of anything better?
Whatever gave you that idea? Mozilla looks like Netscape (duh, where do you think mozilla came from?) and Netscape looked like that long before outlook ever existed. So if they all look the same, it's Netscape they are all (including outlook) emulating.
If someone charges $88 for their email program, it's not going to get reviewed as often as someone who gives away free copies. Simple as that.
Actually, I'd be willing to bet dollars to donuts that in one year's time, the total number of reviews for Outlook 2003 will far outnumber the combined number of reviews for KDE, Ximian, Mozilla and whatever other poorly named e-mail toys the open source crowd is playing with. Face it -- when it comes to market share, MS is the player on the block and to simply ignore it shows an intellectual laziness that calls into question his whole review...
I would have to say that explosives are the most abused technology in all of history.
I'd guess that if he asked Microsoft, they would've sent him a copy to review.
He could've also used Microsoft's Trial CD. $8 shipping is all it takes.
Lotus Notes is an application platform. The insurance agents would have have local copies ("replicas") of the application that includes business logic. The data is synched ("replicated") with the corporate servers whenever the PC is connected to the intranet. The application could easily mail notifications to the office workers who process the claims, but that does not require the mail client to be overloaded (or even using Notes for email.) Lotus Notes started as a secure application platform, then added email as another application with some special code to handle routing.
MS needed something that could claim to compete with Lotus Notes for the rich thin-client marketspace. Where Lotus Notes added email as another application on a secure platform, MS overloaded their email platform with an application platform. This small difference in philosophy has allowed MSOutlook to become the Virus Distribution System we all know and hate. The insurance agents use MSOutlook to create messages using Forms, and the client could synch with the corporate servers. The MSOutlook Forms are very limited when compared to what is possible with Lotus Notes. MS "synchronization" is like overwriting a file; Lotus Notes Replication is very like merging patches in CVS: only the changed fields are updated, so there is no conflict if 2 people change different fields on the same record.
MS's marketing machine has made the products seem to have similar capabilities, but the development effort is much greater and the applications have less functionality when using the MS platform.
- Every Lotus Notes application starts as a database with integrated security. Every MSOutlook application starts as secure as internet email.
- The business logic is updated every time Lotus Notes replicates. How do you update the MSOutlook clients?
- The Lotus Notes address book requires a password from every program before granting access. How many viruses and other programs read the MSOutlook address book?
- Lotus Notes asks for verification that you want to allow some code to read the file system. MSOutlook viruses email random files from your PC to your friends.
The philosophy behind these systems is so different that it is difficult to remember that they are trying to solve similar issues.
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