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USB Swiss Army Knife

finno writes "The Register has a heads-up on a new Swiss Army knife by Victorinox. As the article says, 'Given that you can buy a Victorinox Swiss Army Knive with just about every gadget known to man, from horse-hoof awl to Hubble Space Telescope lens polisher, it's no real surprise that the company - in association with flash memory outfit Swissbit - is now offering cutting tools plus USB flash memory stick.' In my home state of New South Wales, it is illegal to be carrying a knife without a reasonable excuse such as 'the lawful pursuit of the person's occupation'. I got me a reasonable excuse now!"

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  1. Nice, but... by Zone-MR · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nice, except flash memory is just a start.

    What I would really need is a combination pendrive, wi-fi, and bluetooth adaptor, and MP3/OGG player.

    Currently I carry a seperate USB flash drive, and MA401 pen-style wi-fi transceiver. The lack of built in memory on the MA401 means I need to plug in the pendrive every time I need to load the drivers.

    1. Re:Nice, but... by dalamarian · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, no, no.... What I need is a combination cell phone, pda, music player, swiss army knife, flash drive, bluetooth, wifi, digi camera, flash light, and salad shooter device. Only then would I truly be a tool.

    2. Re:Nice, but... by joto · · Score: 2, Funny

      But as technology catches up, I would also like it to be inflatable so I could use it as a laptop, personal helicopter, liferaft, midi studio, and tent.

    3. Re:Nice, but... by JudicatorX · · Score: 2

      Don't forget the chainsaw....

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    4. Re:Nice, but... by gorre · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nice, except flash memory is just a start.
      What I would really need is a combination pendrive, wi-fi, and bluetooth adaptor, and MP3/OGG player.


      What you are looking for already exists, it's called Emacs.

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    5. Re:Nice, but... by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 4, Funny

      Emacs would never fit onto a flash memory stick...

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    6. Re:Nice, but... by haystor · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sure it does, you just can't carry it.

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  2. Wheres the floppy version? by slash-tard · · Score: 3, Funny

    I need a 3 1/2 or a 5 1/4 disk to move my files around.

    Maybe in the next version they can add this and DAT disk support.

  3. Great... by jstrain · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now I can be stopped at the airport for security violations AND supposed music piracy!

    1. Re:Great... by espo812 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Then, not only do you lose your sweet swiss army knife (and clothes), you also lose all your mobile pr0n :(

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  4. Detachable RO setter? by MrIrwin · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have to use my pocket knife to operate the RO switch on my USB stick. Will this new knife have a detable device for setting it's own RO switch?

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    1. Re:Detachable RO setter? by jamshid42 · · Score: 3, Informative

      You should be able to use either the tweezers or the toothpick. Both of those devices are detachable and are included on all standard Swiss Army Knives.

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    2. Re:Detachable RO setter? by bbdd · · Score: 2, Informative

      actually, if you read the pdf data sheet, you will see that the usb drive portion of the unit is removable, so you can replace it with a higher capacity version later on.

      so, yes, the device is detachable.

  5. Leatherman by onyxruby · · Score: 5, Funny

    I want a Leatherman version with at least 512MB and it's bootable. I would pay decent money for that. Swiss Army Knives are toys, Leatherman's are tools. Never trust a tech without one.

    1. Re:Leatherman by jstrain · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just when I thought I had seen all the uses for a Leatherman, I saw an old guy at Ozzfest using it as a roach clip. To each his own I guess.

    2. Re:Leatherman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Bah! Leatherman's are just toys too. Never trust a tech who doesn't lug around a full tool kit.

    3. Re:Leatherman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm still holding out for a leatherman with a small claw hammer. Perfect for inserting and removing dificult cards and cables. but I do admit that the pliers on a leatherman come in handy for twisting connections on your motherboard and hard drive together when you can't find a little plastic jumper. :)

    4. Re:Leatherman by Thornae · · Score: 4, Informative

      Victorinox already make their own multi-tool. Basically, they looked at a Leatherman then made it better.

      Trust me, try one of these, you'll never go back to Leatherman.

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    5. Re:Leatherman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Bah! You teenagers and your "tools", back in my day, we didn't need a logic analyzer! We would just lick the terminals to see if there was a charge! If you got a tingle in your tongue, that was a "1".

    6. Re:Leatherman by Zawash · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nah. I prefer Jay Leno. Leatherman is too crude.

      Cheers!

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    7. Re:Leatherman by cybermace5 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Leatherman? Bah. They try to fit too much into it, and all the tools end up being too flimsy.

      I, on the other hand, have been using the same Gerber Multi-plier for about 12 years (yes, I was 12 when I got it). It has blunt nose pliers instead of needle-nose, and all the tools are heavy-duty. For example, the Philips head isn't just a flat sliver, it's the real deal. The pliers actually work well for tighening bolts and nuts, you know, real bolts and nuts like on cars and bikes. And the real feature is the one-handed snap opening. You just fish it out of your pocket, flick your wrist and *snap* you've got pliers. Every Leatherman I've seen requires you to sit down with it and unfold some complicated metal origami, using two hands and paying very close attention because more often than not, the knives will fold out and you'll cut yourself.

      Mine is bead-blasted stainless, and has never rusted...I don't know about the more recent versions. I wouldn't buy a cheap version. If I ever replace it, I might have to go with this: Gerber Multi-Plier 600 DET. I mean, it doesn't have blunt pliers, but how cool is it to have a non-reflective black oxide pocket battlefield tool with such items as "C-4 explosives punch" and "blasting cap crimper"?

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    8. Re:Leatherman by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 3, Informative

      I bought a Leatherman Wave a few years ago and still carry it with me daily. I don't know about their other models, but this one opens exactly as you describe, and has rounded edges so you can actually apply pressure without it digging into your hand. Basically, none of the complaints you mentioned are true for it.

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    9. Re:Leatherman by (trb001) · · Score: 4, Interesting

      All of us in college used it for this purpose...i worked tech support (think rigging lights and speakers, not ethernet) in college for the university union, and we all carried leathermans or schrades (my personal favorite). At the parties after shows, people would yank out their multitools for all sorts of useful stuff...roach clips, shotgunning beers, etc.

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    10. Re:Leatherman by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Never trust a tech who says that trendy multitools like the Leatherman are indespensible. Real techs carry real tools. They also don't trust other techs who have their URLs pointing to register.com spamsites.

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    11. Re:Leatherman by stephenisu · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have to agree with you, I have had a leatherman wave for a while. My roommate showed me his gerber and I almost died of jealousy. Seriously, the Leatherman is a nifty toy, but the Gerber is a piece of engineering mastery. It's the little things that count.

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  6. Easy way around law for Techs by Mr.Phil · · Score: 3, Funny

    I take it you work in technology? Then there is an easy way to prove you need a pocket knife for you job. I am constantly using my pocket knife to open boxes with parts, shrink wrapped software, and new computers. I also use my pocket knife to cut zip tie bundles and the like.

    Not being allowed to carry a pocket knife? In AU? Don't you need one to keep off all the crocs? ;)

    1. Re:Easy way around law for Techs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Here in Texas, we can legally carry fixed or folding knives anywhere (with some obvious restricted areas). The blade needs to be under 5 inches in length.
      Hell, we carry concealed pistols here too, if you have a permit.
      There is no permit needed to carry a rifle or shotgun (even if not hunting) as long as it is carried in a "non-threatening manner." But even though it is legal, it is uncommon.
      Not only that, our crime rate is much lower than those places that have tons of dumb-ass restrictions.

      AC

    2. Re:Easy way around law for Techs by Agent+Orange · · Score: 2, Funny

      Geez, nobody in australia worries about crocs. Steve "look at this beauty" irwin does that for us.

      What you really need to protect yourself from are the drop-bears!

  7. A flashdrive that security will take away. by oneiros27 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    For some reason, that just doesn't seem practical in the long run, if you ever have to go through a security checkpoint, such as airports, courthouses, whatever. 'Well, I tried smuggling the data in, but they took it away.' 'They found it?' 'No, they didn't like the knife'.

    But I want to know why the SwissFlame isn't allowed for sale in the US.
    http://www.victorinox.com/newsite/en/news/news_swi ss_flame.htm

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    1. Re:A flashdrive that security will take away. by Thranduil · · Score: 2, Funny

      I tried to find a good response to why the SwissFlame isn't allowed for sale in the US, but all I came up with is flame-bait.

    2. Re:A flashdrive that security will take away. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You can not travel by plane with this. Why?

      Lighters need to be carried on; they can't go in your checked bags.

      Knives, on the other hand, are checked baggage only.

      I was almost going to buy one when I was next in Switzerland, but now I realized I can't take it anywhere. That's depressing.

  8. rights in europe? by AmigaAvenger · · Score: 2, Insightful
    In my home state of New South Wales, it is illegal to be carrying a knife without a reasonable excuse such as 'the lawful pursuit of the person's occupation'.

    Amazing how much we hear about the US trouncing civil liberties from people on that side of the pond, when they refuse to look around and realize they have NO rights left!!

    1. Re:rights in europe? by philbert26 · · Score: 2, Informative
      Amazing how much we hear about the US trouncing civil liberties from people on that side of the pond, when they refuse to look around and realize they have NO rights left!!

      Europe? New South Wales is in Australia. Knife carrying is also illegal in Britain unless you have a good reason to have one. I'm not sure what the law is in other European states, but AFAIK Britain is one of the toughest.

    2. Re:rights in europe? by I+confirm+I'm+not+a · · Score: 3, Informative

      Ah, dude, NSW is kind-of not in Europe. It's on the other side of the other pond - across the Pacific, not across the Atlantic.

      Though here in sunny Glasvegas, Scotland, carrying knives is a pretty big no-no. Carrying alcohol in public is vorboten, too.

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    3. Re:rights in europe? by squiggleslash · · Score: 2, Informative
      Knife carrying is also illegal in Britain unless you have a good reason to have one.
      Sort-of. The actual law is against "offensive weapons". This means that people can and have been charged with carrying offensive weapons for carrying such things as screwdrivers and even a can of hairspray.

      However, before anyone gets overly paranoid, in all these cases there was good reason to believe the carrier was carrying the item for use as an actual weapon. That is, the hairspray can was carried by someone who intended to use it to spray into someone's face and admitted the fact. Likewise if you were to carry a pen around with you and say to a policeman "I see someone doing X, and I'll stab them with this pen", you can expect to get arrested.

      If you carry a folded up swiss army knife, you're not likely to get done for it unless you actually claim you intend to use it to attack someone, because in its folded form it's not obviously a weapon (well, I guess you could bash someone over the head with it.)

      BTW I'm a Brit living in the US at the moment. My 23 year old neighbour came over the other day and rather impressed us with:

      1. "You're English? I thought you were British?" (cue two minutes of explaining this, even my "You're Floridian and American" comment seemed to pass him by)
      2. "So is Russia in Britain too? My girlfriend is from Russia."
      3. (My other neighbour made a mention of the war of independence and pointed out that Britain was involved in that in some way...) "Oh, I never took much notice of history. It was Britain we were at war with?"
      It all sounds, when written down, like he was being sarcastic. Thing is, he wasn't. I think it's the last of these I find the most baffling though. The others just show a really bad appreciation of geography. So I guess our modded down friend isn't the only one without an appreciation for the world outside the 50.
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    4. Re:rights in europe? by twbecker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The fact that the parent's obviously not up on his geography doesn't make his point less valid. The things you cite aren't examples of rights we don't have in America. Sure, we may need ID to buy a sixer if we look as if we could possibly be too young to legally do so (I guess in your country you just sell it to them anyway?). The poster claims that in NSW, you cannot carry a knife unless you have a work-related reason to do so. THAT is an example of a right not granted.

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    5. Re:rights in europe? by philbert26 · · Score: 2, Informative
      Not, I think, provided the blade is less than 3 inches in length - and the blade of my Swiss Army Knife is 2.5 inches.

      From section 139 of the UK Criminal Justice Act:

      139.--(1)Subject to subsections (4) and (5) below, any person who has an article to which this section applies with him in a public place shall be guilty of an offence.

      (2)Subject to subsection (3) below, this section applies to any article which has a blade or is sharply pointed except a folding pocketknife.

      (3)This section applies to a folding pocketknife if the cutting edge of its blade exceeds 3 inches.

      Swiss Army knives (at least the ones I have seen) have a locking mechanism, therefore they are not "folding pocketknives". This has been tested in the appeal courts.

  9. Access Denied... by Hawkxor · · Score: 3, Funny

    ..Is what I get when I try to load Victorinox at school. What are they afraid of, me attacking other students with Swiss Army Hubble Telescope polishers?

  10. Geek Camping by cloricus · · Score: 2

    HEHE, silly NSW person!

    Anyway the only concern I have is a) I already have a Swiss army knife and a pen disk and b) the pen disk I doubt would put up with the beating it would receive on a camp. (Though my pen disk recently survived a trip through the washing machine and dryer so I might revise that above thought later.)

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  11. Hubble telescope by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny

    from horse-hoof awl to Hubble Space Telescope lens polisher

    They located these two attachments too close, if you ask me. Why, when I was cleaning the Hubble Telescope last week, I got the two mixed up. I hope no-one notices that huge gouge on the lens. The horse sure has shiney hooves, though.

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  12. Remember the Foreman USB Grill? by wumarkus420 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This reminds me of the USB Foreman Grill April Fool's Joke. However, this seems equally useful/useless depending on how you look at it. So, I guess my real question is, how do we know this is for real?

  13. 'the lawful pursuit of the person's occupation' by akedia · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, this silly rule doesn't apply in my jurisdiction, but in my network rounds I always carry my trusty CyberTool. Bought mind at an airport in Belguim. Haven't met a machine this knife couldn't take.

    Boy Scouts always taught me to carry a pocket knife, either in your car or pocket, you never know how useful it will be.

    1. Re:'the lawful pursuit of the person's occupation' by professionalhacker · · Score: 2, Funny

      You BOUGHT yours at an airport?!?! How on earth are we going to win the war on terror if airports continue to sell weapons of minor destruction? Actually, the idea of an airport selling something that they will confiscate a few minutes later, and then reselling it, is like a license to print money. I wonder if anyone has thought of this idea. If not, they have now.

  14. Hate to say it... by 0xbeefcake · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now that's what I call cutting edge technology!

    1. Re:Hate to say it... by mesach · · Score: 2, Funny

      Depending on how you hold the SAK it might just be Bleeding Edge Technology

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  15. Offtopic by g0bshiTe · · Score: 5, Funny

    You know the author said in New South Wales it was illegal to carry a knife unless you need it for your job. God knows how many stores are held up annually by someone with a pocket knife. I mean really what would someone do? "Give me all your money, or I'll pick your teeth." Lighten up Parliment, I doubt that people with pocket knives will overthrow the throne.

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    1. Re:Offtopic by rocketfairy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hey, man, knives don't pick teeth, PEOPLE pick teeth.

    2. Re:Offtopic by Graff · · Score: 2, Interesting
      You know the author said in New South Wales it was illegal to carry a knife unless you need it for your job.

      My favorite part of that law is the recursive definition they give for what constitutes a knife:
      "knife" includes:
      (a) a knife blade, or

      (b) a razor blade, or

      (c) any other blade,

      Apparently part of the enforcement of the law is to trap anyone trying to understand it into an infinite loop, rendering them incapable of ever using a knife due to their infinite reading of the document...
  16. The Mysterious New Banner Ad by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wow. I like that ad for that new product "Internal Server Error". Good use of whitespace in the design. ;P

  17. Blue Knife of Death by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny

    Are you referring to the Windows 2000-enabled version of the Leatherman, affectionately known as the "Blue Knife of Death"?

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    1. Re:Blue Knife of Death by grazzy · · Score: 2, Funny

      You might wanna look into "Diamond Admnistrator +3". Leatherman equipped with 12 gems of highest quality which gives the bearer a "+2 charisma", "10% extra network speed" and a whopping "+4 luck with backup recoveries" - and ofcourse all the basic attributes!

      Can be purchased for 34,000 gold at your local magical store.

    2. Re:Blue Knife of Death by crawling_chaos · · Score: 2, Funny
      Leatherman equipped with 12 gems of highest quality which gives the bearer a "+2 charisma

      Only +2? Damn, mine will still be negative!

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  18. I know it's a Swiss Army *knife*, but... by Kris_J · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...the blade mades it impossble to take on a plane. As someone that's about to travel with only 128MB of flash RAM (no laptop, no iPod), I'd think it would be handier if it looked to the Cybertool for a whole bunch of blunt(ish) stuff like the screwdrivers, pen or pliers.

  19. Security Threat of USB Flash Drives by G4from128k · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd bet that devices like these give security officers, IP hoarders, and trade secret people the willies. The idea that someone (employee, vendor, or confident hacker) could walk into any office, stick their keychain USB drive into a PC and transfer files to/from an internal network is not too pleasant to contemplate. Seems like a great way to introduce trojans or snarf sensitive files. I wonder if some companies disable USB Mass Storage on their PCs to prevent this type of unauthorized access?

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    1. Re:Security Threat of USB Flash Drives by el-spectre · · Score: 2, Funny

      Place I used to work, they wouldn't let you bring in a laptop for obvious security reasons... but my USB2 HDD full of music was just fine... "so long as it's not a laptop"

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    2. Re:Security Threat of USB Flash Drives by micromoog · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, it's a good thing nobody's ever come up with a portable data-storage device before . . . especially one that's available on most computers. I'm envisioning some sort of "flexible disk", that had a compatible "drive" on all computers, and that could simply be secreted away in a pocket. If something like THAT had been around all these years, boy would we be in trouble now.

    3. Re:Security Threat of USB Flash Drives by CrankyFool · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I work for a financial services company and that, in fact, is exactly what we've done. Only we went low-tech and disabled USB. Period. Of course, most people don't get floppies or CD drives either (not sure what the point of not giving CD drives is -- it's not like you can somehow hack an RO CD drive to become a CDRW).

      Are you saying there's a way to disable *JUST* USB Mass Storage? Because I'd love to know about that.

    4. Re:Security Threat of USB Flash Drives by Q2Serpent · · Score: 2, Informative

      Perhaps the controls you get in Windows will let you do such a thing, but I do know that in Linux, it's as easy as removing access to the USB Mass Storage modules. In the simplest case, don't let them be auto-loaded via hotplug, and don't give the user's access to load them manually.

    5. Re:Security Threat of USB Flash Drives by raymondlowe · · Score: 2, Informative
      Are you saying there's a way to disable *JUST* USB Mass Storage? Because I'd love to know about that.

      http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb; en-us;823732


      R.

  20. What kind of idiot legislature... by Fencepost · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Passes that kind of a law banning any kind of blade in any public place? It's the kind of law that can almost only be there to provide an excuse to throw more charges at someone - "He jaywalked, and he had scissors! Because this is his second offense, we'll be seeking the maximum of 12 months in prison."

    "knife" includes:
    (a) a knife blade, or
    (b) a razor blade, or
    (c) any other blade,
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    1. Re:What kind of idiot legislature... by Phreakiture · · Score: 2, Funny

      Better yet-- Jaywalking and running with scissors!

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    2. Re:What kind of idiot legislature... by ajs318 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You think that's bad? In the UK, you can't even buy safety razor blades {eg. Gillette sensor type, which can't make a cut more than 1mm. deep without serious modding, the process of which is likely to cut you} if you're under 16, but you can be expelled from school for not shaving!

      Clearly the law was meant to stop kids buying cut-throat razor blades, but it's still a bit idiotic. And if they want knives, they will just steal them.

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    3. Re:What kind of idiot legislature... by Mikkeles · · Score: 3, Insightful
      'Passes that kind of a law banning any kind of blade in any public place? It's the kind of law that can almost only be there to provide an excuse to throw more charges at someone...'

      That's the point. If enough laws and regulations are enacted, then everyone becomes (or can become) a criminal. Even if not enforced all that much, they allow for greater control of the peasantry.

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  21. The only thing preventing me buying it... by Malc · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... is the lack of a kitchen sink.

    (Sorry, bad /. joke based on moving from Windows to Linux)

  22. Incorrect configuration by happyEverGeek · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It looks great, but for a PC technician, I hope they make one with a philips blade rather than scissors.

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  23. Weight? by MalaclypseTheYounger · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't know if it would be an issue or not, but how heavy is this thing? Generally it's not a good idea to plug things into your PC ports that are anywhere close to having a significant weight. I'd hate to bend or break my USB ports from plugging this thing in...

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  24. Photo faked? by pluckyduck · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't know. Could this be an early April Fool's hoax?

    If the picture is accurate, it looks like the USB connector won't fit folded up. Looks like a bad cut & paste to me.

  25. Knife Repository by 4of12 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My Swiss Army Knife is with me constantly because it's so useful. Had it for years. I've lost the toothpick and the spring in the scissors, but it's still indispensible.

    So, with the recent crackdown in the USA on small scale implements of terrorism such as nail clippers, I try to remember to put my knife in the glove compartment before a flight.

    I forgot once. And I sure didn't want to give away my knife. The TSA inspectors must have 10 million pocket knives by now. What to do before getting in line for the security scan?

    I found an fake potted plant in an isolated corner of the airport and hid the knife under some bark chips.

    When I came back 3-4 days later I just picked it up on the way out.

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    1. Re:Knife Repository by ralmeida · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The same happened to me in an airport once. I was in the line for the x-ray scan when I remebered my swiss knife was on my belt pouch. I quickly wrapped all the keys I had around it, and put the belt pouch on the x-ray... it passed!

      After that, my reaction was to scream "hey, you idiots, I just passed with a knife, pay more atention!". But I decided to keep my mouth shut.

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  26. That was Ozzy by AtariAmarok · · Score: 2, Funny

    I saw an old guy at Ozzfest using it as a roach clip

    I think that was Ozzy himself. Nothing helps take the pain of remembering that you destroyed your brain through drug-abuse than a little more self-medication.

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    1. Re:That was Ozzy by wideBlueSkies · · Score: 2, Informative

      >>Nothing helps take the pain of remembering that you destroyed your brain through drug-abuse than a little more self-medication.

      On a serious note: Sadly, this is a big reason why many substance abusers don't have the willpower to get up and quit. They're too busy feeling sorry for how they've hurt themselves and others.

      It's easier to quit tomorrow than to quit today.

      wbs.

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  27. not so illegal in New South Wales by asr_man · · Score: 2, Informative

    Apparently you've got enough exceptions to keep yourself out of trouble:

    (ii) the preparation or consumption of food or drink
    (iii) participation in a lawful entertainment, recreation or sport

    Hopefully wood carving and popping bottle caps aren't illegal yet.

  28. From the picture by jandrese · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Did anybody notice the _other_ tools on this knife. There's the standard blade, good for cutting zip ties, opening boxes, and peeling off stubborn labels in a pinch. Scissors, which are generally useful, and a nail file, which I thought only showed up on the really big knives and the ones aimed at women. Where is the phillips head screwdriver, or even the flathead screwdriver? Actually, some knives have a nice snap on toolset that works quite well. IMHO, if you're going to stick a USB stick on a knife, it should have the following additional tools:
    1. Blade -- Every knife needs one. A combination large and small blade is nice but not necessary on this knife
    2. Scissors -- From cutting down labels to just about anything else, the Scissors are mandatory
    3. Phillips head screwdriver -- Or replace this with the socket set
    4. Flathead screwdriver -- Or replace this with the socket set
    5. Inanimate carbon-steel rod -- In place of the useless tweezers, for ejecting stubborn CDs or rebooting PDAs
    6. Micro-flashlight -- Built into the case, a small white LED bulb at one end is activated by pressing on a certain spot on the handle. The battery is stored in the case. I don't think any knife has this yet, but I know I've wanted it for ages. The light switch should be a toggle, so you don't have to keep holding it down while you're working.
    That's all I'm looking for in a knife. I'd pay $100 for one like that, especially if they called it the Geekman.
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    1. Re:From the picture by rnelsonee · · Score: 2, Informative

      Victorinox makes several models of knives with LEDs. I have that first model. The LED is red (as to not ruin night vision), so it's not the brightest, but it worked well enough last night to find a hub's power cable in a rat nest of wires. The pen is a real life-saver - although it's not small enough to reset PDAs/hubs/etc. Even when old Swiss Army knives had the pen you took all the way out (this one is on a sliding track), they were still to big to use as a handy reset tool. But the battery and the ink are both replacable, which is nice.

    2. Re:From the picture by wagemonkey · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The tweezers aren't useless, I occasianlly use them for removing wood or metal splinters from my hands (cheap cases), but they are great for fiddling with jumpers on motherboards and hard drives.
      I have the Champion and it's big, so it's mostly in a bag rather than in my pocket but the wood saw has come in very handy on a number of occasions (also for cutting french bread) as have the file, metal saw and chisel. The only thing I can't remember actually using is the hook thing - turns the knife into a handle for lifting stuff by a wire etc.
      I have a leatherman too but Victorinox is my favourite, the only real advantage of the leatherman is the pliers but I find them uncomfortable, and the knife is a bit naff - if you need a decent knife get a locking blade, not the half assed attempt on the L'man.
      I've always fancied a Swiss Tool, or possibly a Gerber but I had my L'man before I knew better.
      I also have a miniature SAK on my keychain, just a few blades/scissors/screwdrivers etc but very handy.

  29. knife control by lone_marauder · · Score: 2, Funny

    In my home state of New South Wales, it is illegal to be carrying a knife without a reasonable excuse such as 'the lawful pursuit of the person's occupation'

    I fail to understand how a society can function without pocketknives. I'll be sure to use paper shipping tape on the next thing I send to Australia.

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  30. Illegal knives by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Funny

    The law is similar in the UK. As in New South Wales, an exception is if a knife is a tool used for one's occupation. This is quite useful, since if I'm stopped by the police, I can explain that I'm a mugger and therefore the knife is a tool of the trade.

  31. Get Real Tools by Fished · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I've become increasingly convinced that most "multi purpose" tools simply don't work very well. When I work on computers, I don't use a swiss army knife: instead, I carry a "screw stick" (one of those screwdrivers with four difference phillips and flat heads), a pair of needle-nose pliers, a regular pocket knife (a small gerber model that has one, sharp 2" blad) and a knoppix CD to diagnostics and the like. With those tools, I can fix anything. I might add a USB stick for quick backups and such if the price on big ones comes down some more.

    I used to carry a swiss army knife, but found it difficult to get leverage and even more difficult to get to small, recessed screws and the like.

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    1. Re:Get Real Tools by Mordaximus · · Score: 2, Informative

      It would seem you've never used a Leatherman before.

      Unfortunately, they don't come with Knoppix CDs yet. But I have a Wave and have never been dissapointed.

    2. Re:Get Real Tools by dknight · · Score: 2, Informative

      Dude, get a Leatherman. It is probably the single most useful tool a geek could ever own. Seriously, they have like every kind of knife/screwdriver you're gonna want, and they're very rugged and durable, and even look nice. They can be a bit pricey, but every bit worth it!

    3. Re:Get Real Tools by wizard992 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Tools like that are not so much for your day to day repairs. I carry a full toolkit with me when I am on the job, has everything I need and then some. But for those occasions I do not have my kit, a screwdriver on a knife or a quick way to transfer files can be very handy. Meetings where I do not want to carry everything but need to copy some data, a quick repair to something that screws in, etc.

    4. Re:Get Real Tools by Zathrus · · Score: 2, Informative

      instead, I carry a "screw stick" (one of those screwdrivers with four difference phillips and flat heads)

      If you're ever looking for a good multi-bit screwdriver, buy a Klein 10-in-1 screwdriver/nut driver. They're only $10, very well made, and really do include pretty much every bit you need on a regular basis, either for around the house use or on a computer. Includes 5/16" and 1/4" Nut Drivers, #1 and #2 Phillips, 1/4" and 3/16" Slotted, #10 and #15 Torx(R), #1 and #2 Square (aka Robertson).

      About the only downside is that the shaft is thicker than normal screwdrivers (but that's true for all multi-drivers), which can make it difficult to use in some situations.

    5. Re:Get Real Tools by CrankyFool · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're absolutely right -- multitools are a compromise solution trying to optimize a whole bunch of conflicting goals. If I'm at home, I'll never reach for one of my multitools first -- I'll go for one of the real tools.

      But the goal of a multitool is *NOT* to be a best-of-breed solution. It's to present an adequate compromise that you'll be able to carry relatively easily on you and that will present the best chances that you have the OK tool for the job when you need it. Multitools are smaller than their toolchest equivalents, more portable, and binary -- you either have a multitool or you don't -- you can't bring your multitool and forget your pliers, for example.

      Swiss army knives, unfortunately, are not really multitools. Their metal is incredibly soft and they're not constructed in a way that makes it easy to open them (at least, not as easy as most actual Multitools). For ease of use, check out how easy it is to open one of the main blades on a Wave, or deploy the pliers on a Gerber.

  32. pretty cool, but by JeanBaptiste · · Score: 5, Funny

    how does it match up to the USB Toothbrush???

  33. "horse-hoof awl"? by jpellino · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's a "hoof pick".
    Ignore it when it's needed, and you'll find out that tech is cheap compared to large-animal vets bills.

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    1. Re:"horse-hoof awl"? by rossz · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have this particular knife. The hoof pick works quite well.

      I also have the Laks USB drive watch. That works great as long as the horse isn't skittish.

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  34. What about fresh fruit? by OhHellWithIt · · Score: 2, Funny
    In my home state of New South Wales, it is illegal to be carrying a knife without a reasonable excuse such as 'the lawful pursuit of the person's occupation'.

    ... or a pointy stick?

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  35. Top 10 Missing Swiss Knife Features by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Funny

    10. DRM-enabled so you don't cut anything you are not licensed to
    9. Large surface area on side with room for the Trump logo
    8. "Martha Steward" edition. It slices, it dices, it puree's, and it has a file for jail bars.
    7. "Matt Helm" special: knife inflates into full-sized bedroom complete with bed.
    6. Built-in $29.99 cell phone backup battery
    5. Special iPod opening tool for those rare occasions when you need to do battery work.
    4. Linking feature to enable a Beowulf cluster of swiss army knives
    3. "French Army Knife" version; opens wine with ease and aids in an easy retreat.
    2. "Rush Limbaugh" attachments: knives only on the right side, contains secret compartment that holds up to 80 pills (one morning's supply).
    1. FCC compliant - prevents carving of profane grafitti with its blades; and contains needle and thread to repair wardrobe malfunctions

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  36. TSA Jackasses by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I really hate the TSA. The ban on nail scissors is ridiculous. Any of my friends that are serious about martial arts could hurt someone much more badly with their hands (or a nice, heavy, blunt object, which *is* acceptable) than a dinky half-inch blade. I'll bet that if I was intent on smuggling a blade in, I could hide a much larger blade in something metal (come *on*...if there's a metal plate normally in some electronic device and someone slices the thing at a diagonal to produce a *big* blade, then puts the halves together, who is going to notice on an X-ray machine?).

    Plus, I forgot about the nail scissors that I carry in my travelling case. It wasn't until the fourth flight that the TSA guy grabbed my scissors. Of all the pointless laws...

    I can understand having to not have guns in carry-on. I can even consider large knives reasonable (You don't need your machete in-flight). However, taking pocket knives/keychain knives/nail scissors is just plain annoying. I'm sure the respective industries have done quite well, though...

  37. Excuse for carrying a knife in NSW by mrdaveb · · Score: 2, Funny

    According to the page you linked to, you don't need to buy a boring USB drive to let you carry the knife. Just keep a supply of beer bottles with you at all times and say you neeed the knife to open them!

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  38. Sheesh... by doppleganger871 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can't carry a knife? I always leave a rather large knife in my truck/vehicle, and most of the time I have a folding pocket knife on my belt. I've used it several times outside of work, even as a makeshift screwdriver.

    Well... I guess that's not as important as the 9mm hole punch I keep on the other side of my belt whenever possible. :)

  39. The philosophers are right. by Denyer · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Information is a weapon...

    The point about legal carrying of sharp edges raises another interesting point. I mean, have you ever tried stabbing anything with most penknives? You'd have more joy sticking a biro through someone's chest. (Yes, I realise there are some very high-quality penknives out there too.) Yet there's no attempt by many law-enforcement agencies to differentiate between a useful basic tool and a dedicated weapon. Rather similar to the data/MP3/filesharing situation.

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    1. Re:The philosophers are right. by jfengel · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The hijackers on September 11th supposedly used box cutters, cheap little disposable knives. If you tried to stab anybody the blade would snap, but you can cut somebody's throat pretty effectively. But you can do more damage with a SAK than a box cutter, and apparently they were pretty effective with the box cutters.

      So I wouldn't discount what you can do with a SAK on a plane. Things have changed and an attack of this kind again is extremely unlikely. But an attack of a different kind is not just likely but inevitable, and the law enforcement authorities are trying to cut off as many possible avenues of attack as they can. Often stupidly and ineffectively (you can't do any damange with toenail clippers that you can't do with your teeth), but they have good reason to be paranoid of tiny potential weapons.

    2. Re:The philosophers are right. by CrankyFool · · Score: 3, Insightful
      It's not law enforcement's job to differentiate between my 2" pen knife and my Benchmade -- it's the politicians' job. If the law says knife blade, the cops look for knife blades. If the law said "bad ass blades over six inches," that's what the cops would go for.

      Though realistically, you're also inaccurate because the laws do treat different knives differently. It's legal for me to walk around with a 3.5" knife, but not if it's 4.5. It's legal if it's single-edged, but not if it's double-edged. And don't even get me started about my balisongs.

  40. Wow by Valegor · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now if extortion for the pictures I have on my flash stick doesn't work I can just stab the guy. Thanks Victorinox.

  41. Re:It's a start... by david.given · · Score: 4, Funny
    Sure, but is it wireless, encrypted, somehow involve XML, and support social networking?

    Haven't you heard of PKML? Pen Knife Markup Language. It's a mechanism for allowing you to describe the layout of your penknife.

    <knife vendor="Leatherman" model="Hitech 2000">
    <slice>
    <blade length="5cm" serrated="false">
    </slice>
    <slice>
    <screwdriver type="posidrive" size="4mm"/>
    <screwdriver type="philips" size=4.5mm"/>
    </slice>
    <slice>
    <flashmemory type="usb" size="64MB" pr0n="true"/>
    </slice>
    <topend>
    <tweezers lost="true"/>
    </topend>
    <bottomend>
    <flashlight batterystatus="0%"/>
    </bottomend>
    </knife>

    (I can't seem to indent the above. Bummer.)

    The knives use Bluetooth to announce each other to the other pocket-knife fans in the vicinity. This is useful because frequently you find that you don't have quite the right tool for the job --- but with wireless networking you can find a fellow knife-wielder who happens to have to right one. (It's also useful to try and find someone who hasn't lost their tweezers.)

    It's a great way to pick up... uh, guys, too.

    And it's encrypted, of course, because otherwise They will find out you have a pen-knife and confiscate it (US versions only).

  42. Uncle Buck by GuyFawkes · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you're going to carry a knife, carry one that you abso-fucking-lutely KNOW will cut whatever it is you want to cut, in extremis, and not simply break or saw away uselessly....

    I've carried Buck 110's for more years than I care to think about now, it is the only knife I'd be prepared to trust my life to, and it has in fact already almost certainly saved my life on two occassions (both times from drowning) when quite simply there was about 5 seconds to cut something or die.

    Yes, it is now illegal to carry a knife such as a buck in the UK, doubly so when one's sole method of motorised transport is a motorcycle, but it doesn't stop me, because apart from it's every day uses opening packaging and so on, I know one day I will once again REALLY need to cut something and only uncle buck is good enough for me...
    http://www.buckknives.com/

    peace

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  43. Check out your local Goodwill store by mks113 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    You want to buy your knife back? It might end up in the local goodwill store.

    Take a look at These pics of items apparently confiscated in Sacramento.

  44. New SwissTool model "Spirit" by xyote · · Score: 2, Informative

    coming out this spring or summer. You can see a picture of it here. Nothing about it at victorinox.com which is pretty lame for info on their own products. Nothing on swissarmy.com even though they have the the SwissTool Spirit in a printed brochure. The nice thing about SwissTool is the bit tool. The attached tools in a multi-tool are pretty much useless as far as I am concerned due to the awkwardness of using them. The bit tool, which uses standard 6mm or 1/4" bits, pretty much solves that. The redesigned bit tool for the Spirit not only looks like it could take more torque on the right angle socket but you could use a short bit of hex stock to make it a T handled socket tool. Sweet.

  45. I have the Victornix... by dwalsh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...and was considering buying a Leatherman.

    Ergonmically the Vic is useless, too wide to be a screw driver, to hard to open the blades. I managed to wreck the wirecutter part, and parts of the pliers are starting to rust.

    I'm not saying you are wrong about the Leatherman, just that I was hoping they were better, and if not, I can save some serious $$$

    (Slashdot eats Euro symbols. Take $$$ and divide by ~1.2 to get what I was really trying to express)
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  46. Re:My Micra Leatherman Carries the Day by paganizer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you pack a bunch of adult humans in a really small cage, and give them all swiss army USB devices...

    Same principle on the guns/city thing; while I don't think it's correct - morally or legally - to infringe someones right to bear arms, if you pack them in like sardines they are going to start cutting / blowing holes in each other.

    Of course, thats why I live someplace where I can open the door a few feet away from me and fire off a clip from my SKS and nobody is going to think twice about it, unless it's midnight.

    We have, in general very intelligent, polite criminals in rural tennessee; the dumb ones got shot / eaten / gruesomely dispatched a long time ago and didn't reproduce.

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  47. Halfway there... by John+Harrison · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Here is the pen drive/MP3 player. I am quite happy with mine (512 MB version). It was cheaper than the Creative Muvo and had a greater capacity.

    As for the pocket knife, that would be great but you can't carry it on an airplane anymore. I bet that sales of Victorinox have gone down since 9/11. I don't even know where mine is anymore, I used to carry it with me everyday.

  48. Outlaws by smyle · · Score: 3, Interesting
    In my home state of New South Wales, it is illegal to be carrying a knife without a reasonable excuse such as 'the lawful pursuit of the person's occupation'.

    If knives are outlawed, only outlaws will have knives.

    Have to admit, I hadn't heard about this law before. I carry a Gerber multitool-whatever-they-call-it. It has a knife blade, but more importantly it has a #2 Phillips screwdriver tip, perfect for opening just about every PC case made. I already have my excuse.

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  49. Link to more info. by amembleton · · Score: 3, Informative

    Click here for more info on the USB Swiss Army Knife.

  50. This is nothing.... by AusG4 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Kalashnikov is now offering an AK-47 complete with 120GB firewire hard disk. Never be caught off guard again! Not only is this weapon the choice of counter-government revolutionaries around the world, but now it stores over 15,000 MP3's.

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  51. Security Threat of Floppy Drives by anethema · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'd bet that devices like these give security officers, IP hoarders, and trade secret people the willies. The idea that someone (employee, vendor, or confident hacker) could walk into any office, stick their floppy disk into a PC and transfer files to/from an internal network is not too pleasant to contemplate. Seems like a great way to introduce trojans or snarf sensitive files. I wonder if some companies disable Floppy Drives on their PCs to prevent this type of unauthorized access?(bold=changes)

    The point is, portable storage isnt new. And disabling it, is relativly simple.

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  52. Re:Doing A Hundred Jobs - All Badly by ortholattice · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wenger does offer one with a laser pointer built in. For a comparison of the two companies, see http://outside.away.com/magazine/200007/200007disp 3.html.

  53. I thought by Aexia · · Score: 2, Funny

    The "Sting" version glowed blue when it was near any Microsoft product?

  54. Re:WOW. by pclminion · · Score: 3, Informative

    Argh. I meant New South Wales of course. I realize we're talking about Australia here :-)

  55. Yes, but a nail file? (or "why integrate these?" by llauren · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sure is nice with this combination, but a nail file?! I mean, which geek out there regularily needs and uses a nail file? I would much rather have those small pliers to pull jumper tabs with.

    Truth is, my combo of choise is a Swiss army knife, Space Pen (HP schwag), a LED Lenser flash lite and a USB memory fob that plays music. The USB memory will be outdated in about a year and a half and the flash light has already dropped the little rubber thingy on the switch. But i have had that same Swiss army knife for ten years, used it and abused it (and happily pulled little jumper tabs with the small pliers) and i won't leave home without it. Well, except for the plane.

    • ~llauren
  56. Lightsaber by Mindcry · · Score: 2, Funny

    You forgot lightsaber... honestly what good is such a device without a lightsaber?

  57. NEW SOUTH WALES != Wales by cranos · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just for those who are a little confused, New South Wales is a state in the Commonwealth of Australia. Wales is a small country sitting right next door to England.

  58. Re:illegal to carry a pocket knife? by Warlok · · Score: 2, Funny

    You'd probably have to explain that the sharp edges were for cutting away buggy code, the guard was to prevent you from becoming infected with a virus, and the ball n the hilt for beating worms into submission.

    And if that doesn't work, behead 'em and claim you're a freelance executioner between jobs...

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