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Make the Debian CDs Better by Installing popcon
JayBonci writes "Not popcorn, popcon! (Short for popularity-contest) According to a recent message posted to debian-devel-announce, popcon numbers are being used to determine how things get arranged on the 13 CDs of the upcoming Debian stable release. Participation so far has been good, but the project could use more numbers from a broader user base. Please take a moment to install the package 'popularity-contest,' and help us make the distro better by allowing it to send us anonymous package usage statistics. You can see the results at Popularity Contest page."
...to pay your $699 licensing fee you cock-smoking teabaggers.
Freedows! The best OS ever! Puts linux to shame!
http://sourceforge.net/projects/freedows
KERRY CALLED SECRET SERVICE AGENT 'SON OF A BITCH' AFTER SLOPE SPILL
Dem presidential candidate John Kerry called his secret service agent a "son of a bitch" after the agent inadvertently moved into his path during a ski mishap in Idaho, sending Kerry falling into the snow.
When asked a moment later about the incident by a reporter on the ski run, Kerry said sharply, "I don't fall down," the "son of a b*itch knocked me over."
The Secret Service agent in question has complained about Kerry's treatment, top sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT.
Last month, Kerry began receiving Secret Service protection.
"Obviously, the complications and burden of being monitored 24-hours a day is not just an a simple inconvenience," a government source explained Friday. "But Senator Kerry should understand agents are working for his safety and well-being."
On Friday, Kerry, his snowboard strapped to his back, hiked past 9,000 feet on Durrance Peak, then snowboarded down the mountain, taking repeated tumbles. Reporters counted six falls, although Kerry was out of sight for part of the descent.
3rd post, bitch!!!!
Here's hoping I can get xbill to the top of the list.
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As a Linux newbie (currently don't have Linux installed, but have used it and plan to install it soon), it would be nice to know which are the most popular packages. Most people would like to have an idea of what the more experienced users use, and thus would like to try it themselves. In addition to knowing the most popular packages, it would probably be a quicker install be having the best ones at the beginning of the installation process instead of having to swap CDs too many times.
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Why not just make 2 DVD's?
I hate to point it out, but the first kernel-image is in 2794th place.
That's a whole lot of suck.
Is when using Debian to install gnaughty bites you in the ass.
I'm amazing. You aren't. SUCK IT
The automatic hardware detection is nice.
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
Of course they are very biased. Since it rather hard to find any real-life application of RDBMS serving "sigle client".
And we all know how good MySQL at serving multiple clients with complex queries at once.
Neat quote tho, at least when you understand who is really biased:)
/usd
Coffee - and coasters to put the mugs on, too! It just doesn't get better than that...:)
Wargoatseing, anyone?
You should mean the M series, because there is a lot more to it than PM and variable clock, something the regular Pentium line has had for years. Read this article and you'll realize just how much went into it.
I have been interested in Astronomy since I was about six years old. Just over forty years. I have heard what you suggest before -- but only in the last few years. And I don't understand it any more this time than I did on the earlier occasions.
Frankly, I strongly suspect it is a false factoid, like that the internet was built to survive a Nuclear War. I strongly suspect it is a bullshit meme that keep being repeated because it sounds cool, but is completely false.
Pray explain what you mean when you say the other 138 moons would float off ?
I am trying to do the "thought experiment" of silently, quietly erasing the principals of those moons, mass and all. I am finding this difficult to do. I don't believe there is any way this could occur, in our Universe.
So, instead I imagined doing something to accelerate a moon, any moon, to the escape velocity of its principal. What happens then? Well, the object accelerated to just beyond a planet's escape velocity will assume an orbit very similar to that of the Planet it just escaped from. Sometime in the last couple of years ago there was a flap about a small object that seemed to have been temporarily captured in the Earth-Moon system. But it turned out to be NASA space debris. It appeared to be the discarded upper stage of an Apollo moon shot.
MySQL Control Center is a step in that direction (client side) if they implement some more features on server side M$ centric customers need, it could get Microsoft into trouble in the future (some years)
Hmmmmmm. "allowing it to send us anonymous package usage statistics"
It seems to me, if this were Tivo or some other "evil" corporation, slashdot would be up in arms over this "invasion of privacy."
Yeah, I said, so I'm a troll now, what'dya gonna go about it?... Bitter party of one!
I would still go with Popcorn.. at least their kernels taste better!
oh, i kill me...
They'd have to release the formats/protocols at least six months or so before releasing the software, to prevent other developers playing continual catch-up. (Without changing them in the interim, of course.) And they'd have to be prevented somehow from hiding details that might allow subtle incompatibilities, later lock-in, or other preferential treatment. Ideally, they'd be made to release an open-source reference implementation, too.
And they'd have to show that implementing the protocol or using the format didn't infringe any patents -- not just that a patent-free method was available, but that M$ couldn't use a better, patent-encumbered method unavailable to their competitors. And that they couldn't file such patents in the future.
And so on. Time and time again, companies have learned that you can't play M$ on their own terms and break even, let alone win. They've learned a whole battery of techniques to steal an unfair advantage. And blocking them all is no easy task.
This story is just asking for a frosty piss joke to be made!
I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
Microsoft should not be allowed to sell Windows with any additional apps whatsoever.
With GNAA/Linux you have different distributions, why can't Windows work on the same principle?
You don't get Mandrake saying "Oh, we're not going to put into our distro, why should we put other people's apps in our distro's?"
The whole point of distributions is that you get loads of apps from loads of developers, and you get to select exactly what you want from the best available apps.
Having Windows distributions is the only way I see of overcoming Microsoft's anti-competitive monopoly.
When you get up to the 10+ CD range, it's retarded to not start pushing DVDs.
Does anyone have a recipe for integration of postfix, dspam amd clamav (or other open source virus scanner), similar to the way amavisd and mailscanner work with spam assassin and a virus scanner of choice?
RG
I was hoping to read how to get popcorn from the kernel.
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they should just do a slashdot poll
Selling software wont make you money, selling a service will.
emacs: (emacsen-common) -- 317th place
vi: (nvi) -- 208th place
I'd sooner believe we awarded Bush the popular vote!
excellent output quality, lilypond has a couple of advantages that
haven't been mentioned in the discussion so far:
Of course they shouldn't, but they will anyway. Australia is pretty good at bending over for the United States, and sending one man to PITA prison is a sacrifice Australian politicians will happily make to stay in favour for the next round of trade talks.
I have a friend who went around charging 50 dollars to take the MS.Blaster worm off people's computers. This amateur computer repair field has great potential, as computers penetrate further and further into most bussinesses. Time is money, and paying some kid 50 bucks to fix a computer is often cheaper in the long run then spending 2 days doing it yourself. I plan to do the very same thing with a local company over the summer break from school.
I want to be a Digitician when I grow up.
popcon is bad mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmkay
Of course both fans spinning will impact your battery performance but it's better than third degree burns on your... lap.
"It's based on the idea of what goes up has to come down. In this case, the bubbles go up more easily in the center...than on the sides because of drag from the walls."
Is it just me, or is anyone else reminded of their sex education lessons?
I have no idea why they called it a "bubble" though.
The real problem is not so much that the Yukon date has slipped, it's that Whidbey (The next version of Visual Studio.NET and the.NET framework) is slipping with it. For who knows what reason, Microsoft decided that these products must be released together. While Yukon promises some very nice features, most people would much rather have Whidbey released now and live with SQL 2000 for awhile longer.
To top it off, MS is not even going to be releasing any service packs for Visual Studio in the meantime. There are some rather serious issues with the current version of Visual Studio that can only be fixed by calling MS for specific hotfixes. Needless to say, much of the MS developer community is up in arms.
Oh well you know, just all sorts of functionality that was driven by GNAA/Linux, like finely grained SMP, support for enterprise level hardware, USB, SANE, ACPI, DRI/DRM and what have you more. And let's not get started on the apps. I mean, there's a reason why all the BSDs make an effort to run GNAA/Linux binaries, not the other way around.
hold on cowboy...
linux drove usb support? check your history...
linux has better support for smp? right... 'cos the linux smp support isn't a rip of free-bsd's first smp incarnation, and free's 'new' smp code is some hack up by a big school kid is it?
linux has better support for enterprise hardware? shall we start with... i dunno... scsi support... get your history book out and do some experimenting with old linux v's old *bsd installs - try backing up a raid and restoring, then come back and tell me how good scsi isn't fundamental enterprise computing...
next you'll tell me that open's code auditing and goal of bug-free secure code is inferior to linux's free for all crap-code fest
excuse my rant, i'd don't mean to bag linux - every OS has its place - even windows.
but man... linux zealots and their damn superiority complex, re-writing history... i even heard someone try to explain the sco crap the other day... he actually said that 'unix is a brand of linux'
I don't see why companies don't like the idea of getting help from CUSTOMERS.:D
Simple: Maybe they would get help from customers, maybe not. If they got help from customers, then their cars would be a little bit better (though probably not much), and their customers would be a little bit happier.
But by keeping all this stuff secret, they create a monopoly on service and their dealerships can charge $200 for something that Joe Smith at your local garage would charge $120 for.
Furthermore, I find LilyPond's text format far faster for input than using a GUI. Like speach, music is an abstract concept that the human can nevertheless learn to set in a concrete form using a keyboard. Payware music typesetting programs also has a keyboard input mode, and most advanced users use it.
It also depends on what "repair" is.
"Repair" might mean that the computer won't boot up at all, and this person has their doctoral dissertation nearly complete on it. Of course, they haven't made any backups... It would easily be worth $800 to recover that data and get the computer up and running again.
For me, when it comes to working on people's computers, I basically tell them it will cost them $50/hour. But also that I have an "hourly" cost for certain jobs. From start to finish, installing windows and all their software may take more than 5 or 6 hours. But a lot of that is just waiting. So, for that job, I'll tell them it will be about 2 to 2 1/2 hours of billed time.
I'm sure many businesses would love to be able to only purchase the parts of windows that they wanted.
And they had an advantage that Europe also got after WW2: Their manufacturing infrastructure was completely destroyed, so they had a chance to start from scratch with cutting-edge (at the time_) technology throughout the entire process. The US was (and is) still trying to maintain their much older and less capable facilities, since that was still less expensive than starting over and there was no carpet-bombing to force them into it.
Did you know that in 1998 Senator Patrick Leahy, of Vermont, got his State's largest Lake, Lake Champlain, to be reclassified as the 6th Great Lake? At least as far as the awarding of researh grants. Being considered a "Great Lake" made the academic institutions in his constituency eligible to apply for certain research grants.
There is talk of sending a probe to Pluto. Is it possible that it is easier to sell a probe to "planet Pluto" than to send one to Kuiper-belt object Pluto?
I remember, back in the days when I tuned in to debates as to which newsgroups should be created, the big debate as to whether a new group should be talk.acquaria, rec.acquaria or sci.acquaria.
In Leahy's defence, these were environmental research grants, and I should probably assume he added this line to the bill to protect his constituent's natural environment -- not for the petty partisan purposes.
I'm a typical geek who builds custom computers for people preinstalled and preconfigured with their choice of software, and most of my clients opt for Media Player Classic rather than WMP as their default video playback thing, as far as video goes. I'm not an OEM by any means (I've only built about a dozen computers), but I'd love if customisable installs would filter down to the end users.
For those of you who don't know, Media Player Classic is an open source clone of Media Player 6.4 (the default media player shipped with Win2k), and (with the right codec libs installed) will play DVD's, avi's, wmv's, ogm's, Real and QT streams. Very nice clean and easy to use interface, and hooks into standard DirectShow codecs, none of the irritations of WMP/Real/QT, and completely free (thanks Gabest!), although donations are always welcom I imagine.
Being able to completely replace WMP with MPC would be a dream come true for me, and my clients. The only thing that worried me is that MS would take their ball home, and if made to remove Media Player they would probably cripple DirectShow to such an extent that I'd have to install WMP in order to get my codec libraries to work.
RTFA. You're lightyears away from what it's about.
It won't be an issue until they find a Kuiper object that is bigger than Pluto. Then they'll have an awkward situation. Making Pluto a planet when this bigger object isn't one doesn't make sense; nobody wants to add a new planet, because in retrospect it was a mistake to make Pluto a planet, and adding another Kuiper object would just compound it; and removing Pluto from the list of planets offends tradition.
Everyone wants to push this off as long as possible, so if the new object is really smaller than Pluto, they'll breathe a sigh of relief and go on with things as they are.
Uh, except that it changes, moves, or could even be interactive given some sort of input/stimulus.
Not good for MS. A lot of people have been waiting on Yukon. Yukon is finally going to deliver online restoration, database mirroring with automatic failover, and support for mirrored backup sets.
Disappointing. SQL Server had really come a long way, too. Maybe 2005 won't be too late.
IANAAP, but Vulcan is already reserved, it was a theoretical planet in the early 20th century that would be closer into the Sun that Mercury's orbit that would account for irregularities in Mercury's orbital path. There was actually no planet and Mercury's behavior is proof of the special theory of relativity (IIRC).
I'd presume that for historical reasons Vulcan would be reserved. Also recall that theres lots of trans pluto pluto sized objects that have names, I forget what the naming mechanism is for them, but I think they're roman.
I'll ge them out of the way all at once:
I.. welcome bubble overlords...
Soviet Russia... bubbles slide down you.. you know the drill.
If both focal points for the orbit are contained within the volume of one body, or if one focal point is contained within the volume of one body and the other focal point outside of both bodies, then the smaller object is a moon of the larger.
If both focal points are outside the volume of both bodies, or if one focal point is within the volume of one body and the other focal point within the other body, then the pair of objects should be considered a double planet.
So Pluto/Charon, following this reasoning, should be considered a double planet.
Why do people despise the Mac platform so much?
perceived levels of freedom
Back in the day, both IBM PCs and Apple Macs were closed systems, their internel workings were undocumented to the outside world. There was, however, one crucial difference. PCs set up the hardware with the BIOS and then went to disk for the OS whereas MACs booted from an internal ROM. Compaq succeeded in cloning the IBM BIOS which meant you could put an IBM floppy in a Compaq machine and it would boot. Some companies tried to clone the Mac but were slapped with lawsuits because you couldn't copy the Apple ROM. The company that supplied IBM with the stuff on their floppies was a Washington startup called Microsoft who had cunningly retained the right to ship MS-DOS seperate from a computer.
Consequently the PC Clone market flourished and IBM lost their control over the PC Platform driving down price while driving up incompatibility. Meanwhile Apple continued to develop their platform. It was a technically superior platform with a unified graphical user interface, used Postscript for printing and SCSI for devices. This made MACs expensive when you did CPU Cycles / $. You could walk into an Apple dealer, choose the bits, go home, plug it all together and it worked whereas you would go to a PC dealer tell him what you want and he's spend a few days building it and battling to get the bits talking to each other but when you got it home it worked.
Because it was difficult to build and maintain PCs, their builders and maintainers looked down on the MAC, it wasn't as fast for the same $, was too easy to use, you didn't have to take the case to pieces to add a peripheral and the only people you knew who had them were too rich to deserve them.
As the builders and maintainers of the PCs of everyone in their social circle, the non-techies trusted the techies opinion, parroting the same lame arguments in PCs vs MACs arguments the world over.
If dogs are flying, then that is not weed you are smoking... Tread carefully, but enjoy.
I've seen the results of this when it was used in the Hurd CDs. There were absolutely retarded things like the battle.net client on CD #1, but not something simple like XFree86.
Popularity isn't something that works terribly well for this sort of thing, especially not on the first install CD.
Granted, if you ran an all RedHat shop or an all Mandrake shop things would be easier than simply an all GNAA/Linux shop, but the same would be true for an all OpenBSD shop vs an all FreeBSD or NetBSD shop. But if each department is free to buy what they want I'd rather find who-knows-which-BSD on the box than who-knows-which-GNAA/Linux.
That police officer has repeatedly attempted to contact me (as a rule, I never volunteer any information to law enforcement), and has gone so far as to obtain some personal information about me. Turns-out that the ISP caved-in to his demands and provided some information about me, in clear violation of legal procedure and current privacy laws.
This is no different from a cracker obtaining passwords/access through social engineering.
Furthermore, the officer has repeatedly attempted to have me contact him tough threatening e-mail messages.
My question is: should there be stiff penalties towards law-enforcement officers who manage to illegally and without due process of law get information about ISP subscribers, especially if they are well outside their police department jurisdiction?
We don't respect mechanics because we, and our friends, have been lied to by mechanics so many times. Either about what needs to be repaired, what they broke while they were repairing something else, etc.
If computer techs started pulling the same shit that mechanics have been pulling, taking severe advantage of their greater knowledge of the subject, computer techs are going to be just as disrespected.
Given HP's recent relationship with Apple on a rebranded iPod, does that mean that 1) the tunes sold in starbucks will be AAC and/or 2) that iTunes will be involved?
you think MS will reduce margins if they get fined or will they pass that cost to the customer either indirectly (format lockin/upgrades etc) or directly via product price increases ?
doesn't really take a MBA to work out what they will do, fining them will not punish them at all, especially with the worlds richest people at the helm.
Perhaps you missed the whole DeCSS issue? "Without licensed DVD players for GNAA/Linux and other operating systems, an entire class of computer users is completely cut off from viewing DVDs."
Kernel threads almost universally stay on the cpu they were originally assigned to. High performance threaded subsystems, such as the network stack, are replicated. That is, the network stack creates multiple threads (one per cpu) and those threads do not migrate because, obviously, they do not need to.
Generally speaking, the purpose of making thread migration explicit instead of automatic is to partition a larger data set across available cpu caches rather then cause the same data to be shared amoungst all cpu caches. The processors operate a lot more efficiently and SMP scales a lot better. Most people do not realize the horrendous cost of moving threads between cpus because the cache mastership change is invisibly handled by hardware, but the cost is still there and still very real.
-Matt
I had assumed this was being done all along. How are debian packages currently organized in the install set hierarchy? By the way, are there any other front-ends to apt-get in the spirit of Synaptic? Synaptic is a nice program, but seems to be still very buggy.
Stay sentient. Don't drink bad milk.
Found it here.
It's old:)
The one from the logged in poster is a faithful reproduction of the article. The anonymous coward one mentions cowboyneal and male body parts.
That probably explains why the moderation was done the way it was far more the the stated author of the article.
About 6 months ago I was on the phone to some marketing company who were doing a survey on Yukon and whether or not I was contemplating deploying it.
I said no because:
1) it was too tighly integrated into AD/ windows server and we didn't any of that.
2) I didn't trust it, and wouldn't till it had been in the field for at least a year.
I think they got alot of responses like 2) (going by the marketers comments) and they prob decided to wait till the new windows server is out (2006??) and deploy on the new Trusted Computing Base thing they are wittering on about.
>I'm surprised people still use BSD after that
;)
>security fiasco last year.
so what do u suggest windows? LOL
sorry
Pluto is 2300 km diameter, ranges from 4.3 to 7.4 billion km from the sun.
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DSPAM (as in De-Spam) is an extremely scalable, open-source statistical-algorithmic hybrid anti-spam filter. A majority of users running v2.10+ achieve filtering rates ranging from 99.92% - 99.98+%, DSPAM is currently effective as both a server-side agent for UNIX email servers and a developer's library for mail clients, other anti-spam tools, and similar projects requiring drop-in spam filtering. DSPAM has been implemented on many large and small scale systems with the largest systems being reported at about 125,000 mailboxes.
What is a Statistical-Algorithmic Hybrid Filter?
Present-day language classifiers bear the responsibility of maintaining accuracy in the midst of ever-increasing sample complexity. In the setting of spam filtering, many types of intentional attacks have been introduced such as obfuscation, word list injection, sample flooding, and etcetera. As the complexity of classification text continues to multiply rapidly, many filter developers today are left with conflicted feelings between increasing the complexity of their filter and wise teachings from CS class reminding them that computer science is about controlling complexity, not creating it. At the rate complexity is rising, filters will (and have already begun to) become so resource-intensive that they lose scalability, eventually leading to a second conflict of interests: where fighting spam becomes more expensive than managing it.
DSPAM is the first Statistical-Algorithmic Hybrid filter and in being such boldly suggests that there is a better alternative to increasing the feature set of filters to match the spams they are trying to fight. By employing algorithms designed to increase the quality of existing data rather than the quantity of data with the goal of reducing the feature set rather than increasing it, DSPAM has managed to achieve nearly equal levels of accuracy with present-day Markovian-based filters and other types of filters that employ large feature sets with the added benefit of using a significantly fewer amount of resources. DSPAM presently peaks at 99.984% accuracy, which is ten times more accurate than a human being [1] and is presently being used on implementations as large as 125,000+ mailboxes.
DSPAM's Focus
The DSPAM project attempts to go beyond "just another statistical filter" by focusing on the following areas:
* DSPAM has a strong focus on providing better data to already existing algorithms (Bayesian, Chi-Square, etcetera) Combination algorithms work inherently well, but depend on the quality of data. Some of the approaches deployed in DSPAM towards this goal include Chained Tokens, Inoculation Groups, Classification Groups, advanced de-obfuscation techniques, and a new noise reduction algorithm called Bayesian Noise Reduction. The goal is to incorporate processing algorithms that can withstand the long haul of ever increasing message complexity. So far we're doing a great job.
* A strong focus on large-scale implementation support. The largest implementation of DSPAM we've heard about to-date involves 125,000 users. DSPAM has been designed to experience a very short execution time (0.03s - 0.10s on average hardware), and has been equipped with a storage driver API allowing several different storage mechanisms to be used. Depending on disk space constraints, accuracy can be traded off for additional disk space or vice-versa.
* Empty Corpus Support and Global Dictionary Support. It is very important in a large-scale environment to allow users to build their own dictionaries starting from scratch. Why? Because system administrators haven't got the time to create 20,000 seeded dictionaries. On top of this, ISPs require out-of-the-box filtering, which DSPAM's global dictionary feature provides for end-users, with minimal centralized learning. DSPAM provides support for building corpuses from scratch without suffering many fatal training errors (false positives). When these two
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Hockey was invented somewhere in Europe or European North America in the 19th century. Lacrosse was invented by Indians near the St. Lawrence and is played on grass rather than snow, so I doubt the Inuit were involved.
Inuit inventions include snowshoes, toboggans, dogsleds, kayaks, toggle harpoons, and various other tools for hunting and travelling in the North as well as snow and ice civil engineering techniques. Pretty impressive, I'd say, for a culture with almost no wood, rock, or metal. They've probably contributed as much as any other non-Eurasian colonialised culture, and they make some really cool art.
Guys, I am a professional musician who occasionaly makes a few hundred bucks setting out of print scores to finale or sibeleus. I also use linux, and like the open source model.
The problem is that programmers arent creative in this department... those coders all work at apple.
This is never going to get off the ground, and is a hindrance to the adoption of linux by musicians, when in reality things like jack, ardour, and alsa make it an excellent platform for creative types, a la Pd, miller puckette's wonderful synthesis program.
The developers seem to be focusing on making things "right" and in a description language. Fine, but i dont see how this is going to help inspire musicians to use this arcane latex garbage to print out a set of exercises. Most of my musician friends cant even use finale well, so how can one expect the same of this program.
On the other hand, if your objective is to create a framework for music notation software, midi in, etc, etc, then you need to work with people in that community so that you can have more attention and people drawn to that project.
As it stands now, this software is like enlightenment 17... by the time it gets ready, all the interested people and developers will have gone elsewhere or vanished in disgust.
Man! The tonight, with 4 / 6 of the +5 scores!
When are the goddamn SexBots going to be released?! My lifeless real doll ain't cutting it!
Formatting textual output &/c, in TeX is a little more adaptable for a human being, as TeX and the actual, literal, written text are pretty much close.
However, for music, most musicians are most comfortable with writing music down in conventional music notation. Conventional music notation, in comparison, compared with LilyPond input are far apart. It's somewhat comparable to painting with a typewriter.
I don't really find much wrong with Lilypond itself, but I don't think it'd work too well for manual input. But coupled with a decent GUI input mechanism, it would work well.
I say its a fair bet that this service wont recover the money they need to put into it to start off, not to mention the training cost of training all those 18 year olds who barely know enough to do a decent cup of coffee.
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(Stop groaning. Someone had to do it.)
I don't know if you were trying to be funny, but this has been my experience with this type of system, and with Debian in particular. You end up with absolutely useless shit like the battle.net client on CD #1, and really important things like the XFree86 (or equivelent) on like the last CDs, with desktop apps that require it on earlier CDs.
It is madness to think that a good distribution can be made by a popularity contest when the people doing the voting know nothing about the system.
BAD IDEA!!!
Doesn't that depend on the definition of clustered though? Clustered systems can be things like beowulf clusters. But often a collection of standalone web servers behind a http load balancers is commonly referred to as a web cluster or array.
IMHO as someone who works in a complex web server / database server environment, there are many interdependancies brought by different software, different platforms and different applications. Whilst 100% uptime on all servers is a nice to have, it's a complex goal to achieve and requires not just expertise in the operating systems & web / database server software but an indepth understanding of the applications.
A system such as this fault tolerant shell is actually quite a neat idea. It allows for flexibility in system performance and availability, without requiring complex (and therefore possibly error prone or difficult to maintain) management jobs. An example would be server which replicates images using rsync. If one of the targets is busy serving web pages or running another application, ftsh would allow for that kind of unforeseen error to be catered for relatively easily.
Ten Planets? You haven't been keeping up with here astrology has been going the last twenty-fove years. I know astrologers who use twenty planets, most of which are imaginary.
This, of course, ignores the two hundred or so asteroids which new age astrologers use. And don't forget the plethora of comets, meteor showers, deep space objects, and other things that may, or may not exist.
And to be sure that you haven't forgotten anything, there are umpteen "Arabic Parts", Midpoints, Orbs, harmonics, ( or something like that) etc.
In short, roughly 10^8 objects that no self-respecting astrologer would omit, if one believes in the validity of all the books on astrology that have been published.
Welcome our new, jazzier, robot overlords....
(sorry someone had to)
Have you ever been in some sort of establishment and said to yourself. You know? This tune is quite catchy (pinky to mouth). It would be quite excellent if I could burn this piece of innovative harmony to CD. Wouldn't it Chompsky.. hUhUhU.
Certainly sir. Would you have me ask the young lady what specific tune?
Sure, be on with it.. CHOP CHOP Chompsky. Put them on my ipod.. (pinky to mouth).
Ah maaaaan, crap!
that sucks!
Turns out I've stopped drinking for no reason after all...
got time to catch up with now.
bid day ahead...
Many distributions ship with software such as XMMS, mplayer and the gimp. Should Mandrake, SuSE, Debian and the like be fined for carrying this software?
First: no one of those distributions has a de facto monopoly in the OS market and it's trying to abuse that position to get the monopoly in other markets, such as the media players one.
Second: on the average GNAA/Linux distro, you have twenty different text editors, a dozen media players, and another dozen graphic manipulation programs.
So, your is, indeed, a non sequitur.
1. No shipping. Local pickup only. 2. To avoid stiff fees, PayPal will not be accepted. 3. Checks will be given ten days to clear. 4. Non-paying bidders without ABM defenses will be given NEGATIVE FEEDBACK.
But if you stood across the border in Minnesota and shot the Canadian, you've committed the crime in Canada(?) and would be extradited.
Current popularity rankings:
:) :( :o :????
vi (287) beats emacs (317)
gnome (333) beats kde (586)
linux (251) beats hurd (13608)
lynx (281) beats mozilla (378)
I'm a chainsmokin' alcoholic sociopath, so-ci-o-path
since they compete with similar products on the market
.No, since they do not use some form of lock-in mechanism to prevent the users for using other products.
The package popularity-contest is 42nd on the list with 18 less installs than the top packages, so how did these 18 people submit thier scores to the popularity contest?
Anyone else read that as "Popcorn"?
That is so over the top. Creating an entire PC just to show a picture? That's 200 for the screen and another 200 for the computer. On top of that they are recommending a hard disk?
My version uses a 5 quid FPGA and some junk thrown away equipment. The LCD was a 12" 9bit colour from some factory and a fiend of a friend offered them to us for a quid each. And the RAM is an old 1Mb 30simm (I have about 3kg of these). There you go. A picture displaying system with no need for a huge/noisy PC power supply (runs from one of those 12v ac/dc plug converters). The images can be sent to it via a serial cable (two wires internally so it can be passed over any old cable you have lying around).
It's a well meaning idea, but it would cause more problems than it would solve. It would just encourage sloppy code; people would rationalize "I don't need to fix errors because it doesn't matter", which is a very bad habit to get into when programming, ignoring errors, or even warnings
The same logic could be applied to any security system, from the automatic door lock on the front of your house to Airbags in your car. Spell checkers discourage people from learning to spell. Antibiotics prevent the growth of the immune system. Why have a lock on your trigger, if it will encourage you to leave it in a place where your kids can find it.
The fact of the matter is, if the code works, it's good code. This is a shell scripting language we're talking about here... Not exactly assembly. Programmers would be better off spending more time thinking about the higher structure of their applications and less time hunting down trivial mistakes.
Of course, I know that this isn't quite what the article is talking about, but it's the principle of the thing. Augmentation would be an improvement.
How about requring MicroSoft to install third-party players as well as its own media player? That would provide more choices to users and the users will be able to choose whatever they like. In my opinion, this is way better than completely removing useful software from the system.
Let the end users decide what they want. Personally, I think that Windows Media Player is a lot better than Winamp or other alternatives; however, I would not mind if everybody had a chance to compare and decide.
It would be a cosmic joke for us to have made it these past hundreds of thousands of slow years, only to be wiped out by a dumb rock in the next ~30 years or so that matter most in our evolution to post-humanity.
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No this is to do with kernel threads. The userland threading is the same as in FreeBSD 4.x atm, AFAIK. The idea is to keep the model simple, unlike in FreeBSD 5.x where they are having trouble keeping it all sane with their fine-grained mutex model. Have a look at the dragonfly.kernel newsgroup, in nntp.dragonflybsd.org for more details on the SMP model, Matt talks about it regularly earlier on.
Isn't Slashdot run on MySQL?
i think they do quite a bit in the hope of luring customers and getting them to linger to maybe buy a second round or other stuff. they play music, provide tables outside, sell newspapers, easy bwireless access.... i'm not that wild about their coffee buy will pay extra not to be told to leave right away.:)
also i suspect starbucks feels pressure to continually reinvent itself rather be perceived as yesterday's coffee news. notice how mcdonalds introduces new items of dubious value to get some buzz and quietly drops them later. (or such is my impression, i don't eat there anymore.)
now if only starbucks could make coffee that didn't taste burnt. i like underdogs, good luck peet's. we have an indy coffee place nearby that has *couches* and wireless..... i doubt the chains will go this far, that's just a bit too inviting.
Hmm.. yeah, since a recent update I can no longer run a.out binaries from the 2.x era... but for as far as external packages and ports are concerned, thats about the first case where you can't get software for older releases to work with a current version using one of the compatxx packages.
That said, some tools (esp those using kmem) should be kept in sync with the kernel, and when at it, why not just build a new userland, its easier then figuring out what you have to update.
The concurrently developing BSD variatiens allow trying out a variety of low level solutions to problems while sharing a lot of their experiences.
Such diversity doesn't really exist in GNAA/Linux despite its zillion distributions (which provide a lot of variation in user experience tho)
No matter what technology it uses, neural nets, b-trees, recursion, tinkertoy logic, smell-emitting diode, leaky junction zener transistor, steam-powered aeolipiles, it only automagically presses delete, which is a pretty lame way of fighting spam.
It's a lame way of fighting spam, because, we STILL have to pay for the fucking spam bandwitdh; we STILL have to pay for the goddammed disk space used by the spam; we STILL have to pay for the bloody time lost transmitting the spam; we STILL have to pay for the extra ISP infrastructure to carry those spams.
Naaah. Spammers should be eradicated from the Internet, and the best way to do so is to completely BLOCK networks who host spammers (no matter what service), in order to force the collateral damage to whine to the ISP or simply vote with their feet.
Virtyally none of the diagnosic capabilities in modern cars are accessible via OBD-II.
Every manufacturer has proprietary networks built into the car of which OBD-II is a tiny emulation layer. Its designed for emissions testing and emissions related codes, nothing else.
You can't diagnose why your power locks aren't working with it, you can't diagnose why your HVAC controls aren't working. You can't read exhaust gas temperatures, or any other direct sensor outputs. You can't bleed ABS pumps with it, etc, etc, etc.
There are VERY few models you can get that sort of information about. Volkswagen/Audi group cars have some diagnostic software available, but virtually 100% of the information about what you can access and what sort of tests you can run have been reverse engineered, and is very incomplete. VAG also recently changed their protocols for newer cars to block those systems from working.
You may have watched mechanics sweat this stuff, but some of us sweat this stuff directly. This is coming from the direct experience of someone who both repairs cars and works for a internationally ranked professional racing team.
Most devices/machines today depend heavily on a motors/engines/circuits that are not usually flexible and need to maintain a rigid structure. Sure, we try to cover/encapsulate these devices in a pleasing exterior (car bodies, plastic casings etc) in order to protect the hardware and us from the dangerous interiors.
Imagine cars made up of soft cushiony/rubbery material, which bounces back to absorb a collision...the metal body can dent in and absorb the force of the impact, but it works only against collisions against other cars/hard objects -- not against collisions with humans/animals and other "soft" substances.
Ofcourse, we could have a soft covering for cars, made of a cushiony substance, but the problem has been embedding circuits/machinery in the soft exteriors, because they tend to bend and damage the interiors.
Nature has found the perfect way to create organs/pumps/filters/wires which are made out of soft tissue, and is malleable enough to survive severe tension/distortion and bending.
Here's to hoping that one day we will be able to create soft fuzzy machines which won't be so hard on our water-bag bodies.
I think I speak for everyone here when I say "That's the worst idea I've ever heard, and I don't want to play."
Hobbit's scampering about on the stage in a chorus line?
The deadly dance of the orcs?
Sam's love ballad to Frodo?
I can just envision Gandalf dancing, tossing away his hat and staff for a top hat and cane.
There are so many reasons this needs to NOT happen.
Judging fromt the description that people had problems logging in, but that things work fine once logged in, and OTOH that Messenger had problems too, I would conclude that the problem is with their Passport infrastructure.
You can make bit-for-bit copies of any DVD now, complete with all the encryption on it. And the laws preventing the distribution of those DVDs (normal copyright law) has been on the books for a long, long time. If you follow the money, the bottom line is that the CSS and region codes on a DVD only help to support cartel price-fixing profits.
The new Muramasa has been out in Japan since January. It has had some nice reviews and keeps up well with Pentium-M modells of similar clock speed (see this Japanese review). And it is much cheaper.
I know it is one of their big selling points but I have yet to have used a Transmeta device that actually had a longer run time than my huge Latitude C series with second battery. Why? Because for some reason manufacturers seem to have a fetish for the 2.5 - 3 hour benchmark. Once they reach it, they concentrate on size instead. Surely I can't be the only one who would be happy with a smallish (12-13") notebook with long battery life. I certainly find that more interesting than devices that are so tiny as to be unusable yet have comparable run time to normal laptops.
There was a formula for predicting orbital paths that was related to Fibbunaci's sequence, I wonder if sedna falls into the sequence?
I thought they had blocked other programs again. Trillian and Gaim couldn't connect, but I installed MSN 6.1 and got right back on.
Is it legal to make and edit copies of commercial DVDs for personal use? What about loaning out the edited copies to friends?
Why is it that there "have to be" laws specific to the internet? If a spammer sends an e-mail using forged headers, why doesn't the law go after him (or her) with good old-fashioned anti-fraud laws? Does the main failing of these kinds of old laws lie in ingorance that makes law enforcement unable or unwilling to enforce the laws without further clarification, or is something else going on here?
From the article:
"the researchers estimate that the wires should be able to withstand several thousand cycles of extension and contraction."
That's no where NEAR what would be needed for any of the applications they mention. For example, at 70 beats per minute your heart beats 100,800 times per day. Assuming each step a runner takes covers 3 feet (very approximate here), then a "cycle" (back to starting configuration) is 6 ft. That's 880 "cycles" per mile. A single 6 mile run is therefore over 5000 cycles.
Several thousand "cycles of extension and contraction" is not even close to enough for any real world app. Who wants to have that internal heart monitor replaced several times each day? How about that high-tech single use "smart" sweatshirt?
These will need to be in the 100's of thousands to millions of cycles for their lifespan before they have any real utility.
I do realise Gold has special properties such as conductivity and hypoallergenic properties, but come on!
> How many companies these days are willing to drop money into some technology that may not turn a profit for many years?"
Aerospace, for one. Working at one of the companies that makes commercial (and military) aircraft engines, it is jokingly quoted that: "A decision to launch a new engine program is a calculated risk to go into the hole for about 20 years" (Meaning it takes about that long to "turn profit" off all the years of design, development, testing, and certication processes.) Imagine how many times the market flops around responding to other market pressures in that length of time.
As an interesting aside for many of you, aircraft engines have historically been sold on the razor/blades business model, so its an interesting business balance between a quality engine that airline customers will buy and the need to sell spares to eventually make money on FAR down the road.
Maybe they can develop nerves strong enough to let me survive my mother asking for computer help.
Businessweek ran an item on it in their latest issue. The also said that competitors of Starbucks are looking to implement similar technology.
Krispy Kreme and Outkast?
Honey, we're moving to Washington!!!
Imagine mapping this (your HOUSE) for a Quake / Unreal map!!
...it was called Knight Rider. Just have all the automakers create autos that can talk and tell you the diagnostic/problem information. Take it a step further....sell advertising in the information.
"Michael, the left tire is running low and I've already told you 10 times. Why do you ignore me Michael? I let you into my hood on the first date. Oh look Michael, a Discount Tire shop; that would hit he spot, plus the tire tech has a nice big wrench...can we stop?"
That said, don't bother burning 4 CDs, 7 CDs, however many the next is. Just burn the first CD and source everything off the net. Debian's good for that, and it's less of a headache. If you have a bunch of systems set up, use a web proxy with a big cache for the installs.
I don't know what everybody is complaining about with these being slow chips. THey should really start to look at the trade-offs. Do they want to lug around an 8 pound laptop, with 3 hourse of battery life, just so they can say they have a 2.4 GHz laptop, or would they rather carry around a 2.6 pound laptop with 6 hours of battery life (weight with extended battery), and have to run things just a tinsy bit slower. I've found that provided the system have a good amount of memory, a pentium 2 is good enough to run most applications.
I think the subject, says it all!
More to the point, does changing the medium in which content is delivered constitute a derivative work and therefore require a seperate copyright license? E.G., ripping a muic track from a CD to play on a computer, copying a track from a vinyl album to a CD or audio cassette to play in a car, etc.
Even if only for servers to keep open relays out of the loop, it may be time to mandate third-party trusted ID certs (ala SSL) for mail servers. It's proven too difficult to get most people to digitally sign their mail, but admins should be clueful enough to generate certs and have them validated externally...
Seriously, how many legal car repair shops do you think there are? A million is most likely a conservative figure. The car computer legislation is happening because there are a lot of people in the car repair business, and have been in the car repair business for generations. But, suddenly (last few years) they've been unable to fix cars because they don't know the secret codes for the cars' computers.
This isn't "I want everything, like MP3s and DVDs, for free". This is "I want to fsck-ing survive here.
It's the cord from a telephone handset.
Now why didn't they think of that decades ago?
Oh, wait, they did.
Nevermind.
Yeah, yeah, I know. It's FLAT. So maybe they've reinvented ramen noodles?
Why am I not surprised Microsoft claims its an internal problem?
Actually, it would make more sense when Microsoft would claim it was an attack. Internal problems can be blaimed on the company (bad software design, bad system administration, etc.), external attacks can't, only for a lack of security or something like that. But in most cases, a company gets away quite well with an external attack.
The last thing I want geeks designing is my clothes. I'm not fond of the short-sleeve-polo-with-company-logo, okay!
What about the vast majority of e-mail users who have Outlook [Express] on Windows. When will a plugin be designed and ported which will work with these clients?
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obtain criminals that seek refuge in a country
(A) He's not a criminal and
(B) he's not "seeking refuge". He's remaining at home where he's been the whole time.
The US is getting uppity at Autralia because Australia is not prosecuting him. And the REASON Autralia is not prosecuting him is because HE DID NOT BREAK THE LAW.
The US wants to extradite him so they can persecute him for "breaking codes", NOT for copyright infringment. "Breaking codes" is nothing but working out mathematics. And guess what? It's not a crime to do math in Australia! He's not a criminal.
It's my dip-shit home country of America that came up with the numbskull idea of criminalizing math.
P.S.
The Chinese people should have a revolution and overthrow their government. OOPS! I JUST VIOLATED CHINESE LAW! I guess I'm a criminal too! Quick, someone extradite me to China!
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Does nobody RTFA?!!
The aim is to free computer makers to sell Windows bundled with rival audiovisual software such as RealNetworks RealPlayer or Apple's Quicktime, the sources said.
Users with relatively predictable mail behavior (such as geeks, dweebs, and freaks) have generally received very few false positives
What about losers, dorks, and morons? Are they cursed with a high rate of false positives?
Of course it's convenient to get all of that stuff included with your operating system. But if you remember, there used to be a market for things like browsers and video playback software. That market is all but gone, thanks to Microsoft including these products with their OS. I know, there is something called Mozilla for us staunch MS-haters. But good luck trying to sell (or even give) your alternative browser to the public at large.
I don't feel too bad about MS including such things with their OS, even though I am sure producers of, say, video editing software are having nightmares about MS including that functionality with Windows in a few years time. it's hard to draw the line: sure, no one would argue against operating systems needing a decent file manager, for example. Yet people used to make a living developing and selling separate file managers, a long time ago.
What I do have a problem with, is that MS sometimes not just includes browsers and video software with the OS, but made sure that it was rather hard to install an alternative product as well. That is what they should be punished for... but this ruling doesn't really accomplish that. As far as browsers and video playback software is concerned, it's all water under the bridge, and you correctly note that it will be consumers who will be hurt by removing these from the OS. MS probably doesn't care a great deal.
I would have preferred a big fine for MS, to make it clear what is unacceptable behaviour. It has to hurt if it's to heal.
So do niggers when they're chained together and weighed down with cannonballs.
I laughed when I saw that scene in Amistad. It was the feel-good comedy of 1997!
That must have been one heck of an internal problem for it to knock out Hotmail AND MSN Messenger.
For example, the problem might have lain in the Passport login servers. Single sign-on is a single point of failure.
"How many companies these days are willing to drop money into some technology that may not turn a profit for many years?"
The kind that is already doing very well financially and wants to solidify a reputation of innovation. Similar to Microsoft's $1 billion donation to Africa.
The difference is that neither Mandrake, SuSE, Debian are using a monopoly in one area (OS) to create a monopoly in another area (media), that is what is illegal even in the US. Don't you recall the AT&T situation?
How long before people start having a backlash against LOTRs?
4000 recent awards, the actors are plastered on every talk show, multiple console games, 3 recent highly pushed movies --shouldn't they just take a breather?
Wouldn't waiting a few years and then bringing the story back in a different format be refreshing for the story?
Davak
This looks interesting - for me especially how they've already got a system in place to automatically learn ham/spam by simply forwarding a message to a predefined email address (which apparently uses some sort of embedded "bug" to track it so it doesn't matter if the user's MUA forwards headers correctly).
But my main concern is how well the described "Global Filtering" works with users who have no ham/spam corpuses built up yet. SpamAssassin still works reasonably well (eg, catches roughly 60-70% of spam) with no Bayesian stuff going on (just evaluating email on rules alone). Can DSPAM work equally as well?
Screen is a terminal which can survive connection problems. You can start your script, detach terminal, and then came back 10 minutes later and watch what its doing. I know, that's not "fault tolerant", but, most of the times, its enaugh.
Common sense would say so, but unfortunately, newer browsers, widget libraries, and window managers use a lot of resources. I used to use Redhat 7.1 with FVWM and Opera 6. Blazingly fast on my P3/450. Then, because of frustration with incompatible libraries for newer RPMs, I upgraded to Fedora/Opera 7. I still run Fvwm, but this new Opera version (with a newer Qt library, I presume) needs about 2 seconds of CPU time just for getting in and out of focus. If I look carefully, I can see that the borders of the windows inside the Opera window change a little bit depending on the focus. Emacs and xterm still run fine, but everything that has Gtk or Qt is slow as hell.
Fujitsu 'did it right' with the P-Series.
It would be nice to have a faster processor but the flexibility the P-Series (I have the 2120) is unmatched. 8 hours+ battery life and when you add in a 7200rpm drive it is not as sluggish.
Games are best avoided here but I didn't buy it for mobile gaming just mobile working and notes taking in class.
First off, I just finished ordering one, with the extended battery. Now for why:
I use a Laptop virtually all day, every day. I currently work on a Thinkpad T23 with a 1.3GHz processor, 1GB RAM, 14" Screen, etc. I add a 802.11g card when in office and a T-Mobile wireless WAN card everywhere else. I love my laptop, but I have three complaints: 1. Weight, 2. Heat (holy crap it gets hot), and 3. battery life. I also have a Sony Picturebook which address these issues, but it's TOO small and lacks a LOT of connectivity. I use a Zaurus with Opie and love it. I have long wished that I could get a "really big Zaurus" with integrated WiFi, good storage, etc. That's essentially how I view the MM20. Of course that is predicated on my getting GNAA/Linux on it, but I am confident that given some time, that is quite doable. A 1GHz proc, half a gig of RAM, acts as a USB2 hard-drive when connected to my desktop, integrated 802.11g, 2 lbs. and a 10" screen...it's PERFECT for my needs. Anyone want to buy a Thinkpad?
In your experience, have you found most lawsuits involving IP issues to be a waste of time/resources, or possessing merit?
***Here are some of the imdb.com reviews for "Gay Niggers From Outer Space":
p hp
s _s tory_p.html
Summary: The best homosexual racial minority sci-fi film ever.
"Morten Lindbergs classic cult short, Gay Niggers From Outer Space is one of
the first short films to really stick to what the title suggests. From the
time the first gay nigger walked onto the screen up until the final intense
climax with the Tourette's Syndrome Kingdom in Outer Space, it's filled with
dark comedy, action and plenty of suspense. "
"Gay Niggers from Outer Space is a masterpiece of a film. No other film
portraits emotions as majestically and stunningly since The Legend of Nigger
Charley and Home Alone II. With a cast of all-star African niggers and a
director with Kubrick potential, it is no wonder that Gay Niggers from Outer
Space is marked the greatest film of all time."
"From the very first scene where Gay Nigger Harris throws up on his own face
and commits suicide, to the climactic scene where Nigger Ralph Nader and
Nigger Humphrey Bogart fight over the last hashbrown and pick cotton til
their noses bleed, Gay Niggers from Outer Space is the most magical
portrayal of gay niggers open to the public."
***However, no mention is made of the hazadous lifestyle of gay niggers,
so the following is an attempt to explain those hazards in layman's terms:
Despite cries to the contrary in the media, AIDS is still primarily a gay
and black disease. The media loves to report the "growing epidemic" among
whites, when in fact the rate of infection among heterosexual whites is
dropping off significantly year by year. The media though, reports only the
TOTAL current infection rate, not the RELATIVE. So while there are more
cases each year, the RATE of infection is dropping quickly. Except for the
gay/nigger communities, where it's skyrocketing.
Why does AIDS seem to target gays and niggers so much more so than whites
and straights? Anal sex. The anus was not designed to accommodate vigorous
penetration as occurs in anal sex. Unlike the vagina, the anus has very
delicate membranes, which damage easily. Couple that with the fact that
sperm contains immune system suppressing chemicals. That's why the sperm is
not treated as a foreign protein in the vagina...because of the immune
suppressing effects of the sperm cells. Without this effect, pregnancy
could not occur, as the sperm would be attacked as a foreign protein.
In the anus, sperm has the same immune suppressing effect. During anal sex,
the anal wall is torn and open lesions form. Because there is little if any
sensory nerve endings in the anus, this damage often goes unnoticed. The
sperm then induce their immune suppressing effect, and the stage is set.
Various bacteria both beneficial and infectious dwell in the colon, as well
as viral matter. When the anus is ripped open, exposing the blood to the
immune suppressing chemicals in the sperm, and the viral matter passed
along with it, infection is virtually assured.
***So does the skyrocketing rate of AIDS infection mean that there are
skyrocketing rates of gay niggers???
***Not exactly, because most White people don't realize that a large
percentage of nigger males are bisexual. It's a great irony considering all
of their macho posturing and affectations. They tend to admire the male
physique, and when no women are present, they will hip-hop dance with each
other. Any port in a storm will do, because da' brotha's just gots ta
have it!!! Then they pass along the virus to their wives, girlfriends, and
family members.
***Here is a story about this phenomenon from "The Village Voice":
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0123/wright.
And for the Toronto Gay Niggers:
http://www.nowtoronto.com/issues/2001-08-16/new
Screen is a terminal which can survive connection problems. You can start your script, detach terminal, and then came back 10 minutes later and watch what its doing. I know, that's not "fault tolerant", but, most of the times, its enaugh.
"The European Commission draft requires Microsoft to share proprietary information with rival server makers"
That's always my sticking point. I'm not as much bothered that they support video playback in their default system (they also support image playback and text playback, after all) as to their generally incompatible and excessively proprietary methods.
"Early adoption of Yukon in enterprises was quite strong due to the functions and features"
How can you talk about functions and features of software that has not yet been released? How can companies "early adopt" vaporware?
Yes, they can order in advance, but to me "adoption" means running something as a part of your business. Not "planning to maybe use it once you get it and if it turns out to be as good as you was promised it would be".
Great.... just when the novelty of not having to create 20 floppies to install debian began to wear off...
But, honestly, why can't we use a system like was used in the latter days of the debian floppy installer? The 20 floppies contained a base-install with everything necessary to connect to the internet and download the rest of the system, which was a LOT less than the normal ISO image. This was a godsend for anybody on 56k.
-- If you try to fail and succeed, which have you done? - Uli's moose
GNAA claims responsibility for kidnap of Olsen Twins
By Gary Niger
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About Lunix
Lunix is an operating system. An operating system
Um... since you have to install popularity-contest to participate in the contest, wouldn't that make popularity-contest the most popular package?
No no Debian has no business interest. That means no ads no spam etc. Companies are clearly in it for the $$$.
PLUS it doesn't install automatically. Only if you choose to. So where's the complaint?
In summary you suck Debian rules (long live popcon -- running right now).
Troll on brave one...
Make the Debian CD' better by not installing them at all. It's hobby shit. Not ready for prime time play around with stuff. Get real.
When comparing the popularity of the two, do not forget that vi is fairly standard and that vim is fairly small.
This means that whoever uses emacs should have no problem also installing vi/vim, while those who use vi/vim wouldn't typically install emacs/xemacs, which are much larger.
Since it's using e-mail (don't know about encryption or methods of encoding), wouldn't it be rather simple to pervert the statistics in order to promote some software? A mass-mailing would be obvious, but if it's done properly it may look convincing...
Everyone has a kernel, but that doesn't mean a kernel image must be in the first position.
I'd like to see some evidence here.
I've never seen any of the official CDs get the dependency order wrong in the way you imply. I generously suspect that either you took some not-overly-careful shovelware site's rip of the Debian archives as "Debian CDs", or that you're getting Debian confused with some other system.
In case people are reading this and think it's cool and want to try Debian out. I suggest they read this page before they go looking for ISO's to burn.
The Official Debian installer is one the things people heavily judge the distro by.
Do not read this
I was waiting for a new Stable version after Woody, I guess, 2 years ago. Eventually, I sortof gave up.
This article seems to imply that such a release is actually going to happen.
Is it?
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Anyone else read the headline as "Make the Debian CDs Better by Installing Popcorn"?
Good lord someone kill me.
The lesser exec-count for emacs could be explained by the fact that for editing and developement an emacs user is likely to keep that instance of emacs running to avoid the wait when starting a new instance of emacs.
I prefer vim. :)
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sigamajig...
13cd's for the OS is a bit excessive ? windows just uses 1 howcome ?
Bad idea. Doing the most popular thang is far and different from doing the right thang in many case. As Robert Plant put it, "I am not a prisoner of your hit parade". DESIGN NOT POLLING!
I feel sorry for the guys on metered broadband. 13 ISOs is going to use up all of your monthly bandwidth.
Debian does _not_ install a kernel package by default!
It's a whopping huge deficiency in Debian's installation as a large number of people will assume that if they are able to boot then they have a kernel package installed and *MORE SERIOUSLY* that apt-get update/upgrade will install kernel security updates as they come along!
at jigdo , you can make install dvds with it.
Make sure popcon is on disk 1 ;-)
Ian
Did anyone else notice that Gnome is beating KDE hands down in this particular popularity contest? Maybe this means that Debian is used for more serious business use than as a hobbyist DE?
Sunday you're Thinking Different, Monday you're a huge tool, paying too much and waiting to think like everyone else.
ugh, too tired
was thinking that somehow those were exec-count rankings
nah, just install counts
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sigamajig...
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w00t! I beat out 9wm! Go me!
Don't blame me, I didn't vote for either of them!
Will I get a CC of what is sent out?
Also, wouldn't it be a good idea to ask the user on installation of popcon if this is a "desktop-" or "server-type" install of debian, and tag the data with that? That way we could have (beyond split statistics) jigdo/people compiling well composed CDs for those two different purposes. I'm guessing the software layout could be significantly different.
I guess you could infer the type from the data itself, but...
And no, I haven't RTFM. Yet.
Belief is the currency of delusion.
aw shit, this reminds me of highschool. :(
I'm one of the small number of folks running Debian on an old Powermac, so I'm glad for the log scale on the architectures plot to help pull "my" group out of the noise. It bothers me that a very large fraction come up as architecture "unknown". I don't see a "--mind-your-own-damn-business" flag in the manpage, so what's with that?
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I think that is a Bad Idea(tm). vi/emacs,cli nmap and mpg321 are not what newbies want, they want KWrite, nmapfe and XMMS. Just because more experienced users prefer them, doesn't mean they are the best introduction to a newbie,not by a long shot.
I have a web page on my website describing how to make popcorn the oldfashioned way. (i.e. oil, and a big pot). Includes some flavouring suggestions, too.
Free Software: Like love, it grows best when given away.
I feel sorry for the people whose broadband provider doesn't mirror the entire FTP tree :)
Took me a while to figure out what was going on with initrd and my own kernels, but I've finally gotten rid of that hoary beast. From what I can tell, initrd is only useful for installation media where you need to carry a metric shit-ton of network drivers and the likes. I haven't tried the sarge installer -- I assume debian kernels still default to this?
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What's your "design" for what should go in a standard distribution ?
Oh wait, that doesn't matter -- because people are selecting packages from dselect or other tools, they are ignoring your advice, and the point of this is to minimize the amount they have to download (and thus the load on the servers).
All this time I thought that with debian you use jigdo to make your own custom cds. Oh well, guess I was wrong. Gentoo has catalyst now for making custom live cds, FYI. Oh yeah, network installs are king, if you're installing off cds still that's pretty sad.
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Simply put these 13 CDs on 2 DVDs and get over it. For whiners who are still on modem links there's always network install.
I find it funny that people think this is a great idea, but if Microsoft did 1/10th of what they're doing everyone would freak. People go nuts about windows registration sending a serial number. This article would have fallen under YRO also. But I know the response, at least you guys would have the source to Popcon and know what it transmits, but how many people are going to go sifting through that? Not meant to troll, just pointing out some bias.
(Modding this down hurts my feelings)
... just like high school all over again.
In other news, vim started putting up posters for prom queen.
I still have a Debian 2.1 on my 486/8MB notebook. It's installed from 11 flopppies. Well, maybe I should consider not to upgrade this time...
There you are, staring at me again.
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Should it really be submitting this stuff?
You should try emacsclient. It's great for things like email, but I still keep jed around for use over ssh connections.
If we were ants living on a Rubik's cube, differential geometry would be a little more confusing.
...let me get this straight.
When TiVo tracks anonymous usage statistics, and uses them to reveal what the most-watched commercials are, or how often people re-watched Janet's boob, that's a bad thing.
But when a Linux app tracks anonymous usage statistics and uses them to reveal how often people install particular packages, that's a good thing?
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its a huge story, invasion of privacy so on so forth. hypocrites
Please. I got no mod points. Can you spare a few?
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Ever hear the word before? No-one is required tio install this package in order to use Debian, get support from the mailing list, or to upgrade thier software.
This is not registration, it is not collecting personal, financial, addressbook, or browsing habit data. It's counting the software that you have installed, how often that package is used and how often it was upgraded.
Microsoft does collect this sort of data from their customers, and more.
They don't ask you if you want to participate. Whether or not you were paying attention, you did agree to it.
I like Debian's terms a whole hell of a lot better than Microsoft's, and I'm a lot happier using Debian's software as well.
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Yes. You see commercial organizations do it all the time, some of it bugs us (spyware/adware/webbugs/cross-site cookies), but a lot of it doesn't (Neilson ratings/consumer surveys/warrenty questionaires). I think we all know that to design a good product you need to listen to your consumer base.
In fact this has been one of the big pieces that has been missing with Linux distro's. We throw as many applications into them as we can, having no accurate idea whats being used and whats just in the way. This is sort of a break-through when you think about it and I applaud the Debian's refeshingly long-sightedness.
Add to that that this is a open source project (under the GPL and written in perl) and you end up with a true rarity, an honest (and auditable) marketing tool. Don't like it? Don't install it.
This looks to me like a usefull tool in the fight for increased usability. OS hackers may not be able to do the tele polls and the in-mall customer questionaires, but they sure as hell can figure out how to get that information. And we sort of owe it to then to tell them a little something about the products they spend so much time (and care) working on for us.
Just my $.02.
Quack, quack.
Am I the only one who thinks this way? I realize that Debian will get around to doing something about the information in about two to three years, however, it's still spyware.
I agree with the above poster, but why this needs to catch on:
1) We currently have a 0 feedback model for most distro (said distros forum and Slashdot aside).
2) It WILL tell the developers of a distro a bit about how their distro is being used (lots of data, the deeper they dig the more they learn).
3) Other distros need to see this as a *requirement*. Popularity-popusmearity, this is customer feed-back! Guess how many times I've been asked how I use my favorite flavor of Linux over the past 5 years?
I think Debian has hit a little bit of gold here and I hope to see it expand to other distros. These guys work hard to write 100's of useful apps and compile them into a useful operating environment, more information can only help that process so I'm into it.
Quack, quack.
After installing popcon, I decided to take a look at the documentation. And in /usr/share/doc/popularity-contest/examples/README. examples I found this:
>Now you can do, for example:
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> cat popcon-entries/*/* | popanal.py
Nice. This has to be the most homoerotic thing I've ever seen.. let's slip something into the pipe to pop the anal pie.
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if microsoft said they were bundling a software tracking system to their products people would flip out. I think people would be right to get upset at someone else telling you what you are going to be sharing. This is a Linux dtstribution saying -->HERE-- is a program that might let us track popular software installations. . . Install it if you want to. That 'if you want to' part is what makes this acceptable to me. --Tsiangkun
> determine how things get arranged on the 13 CDs of the upcoming Debian stable release
Why not just make a DVD image? I know not all people have DVDs but it would be cool as an alternative. It will also be nice if they distributed their ISOs via BitTotrrent.
I never tried Debian. Does it run on Gentoo?
Yes, vi gets more installations, but approximately 2/3 of them are marked as old.
Only 1/3 of the people, or 597 people actually use vi.
For emacs, a mere 1/6 of them are old and 2/3 of the people, or 996 people use it.
My kernel is 1/30th the size of it's source tarball. "mozilla-browser" is a bit less than 1/3 the size of the source tarball disregarding the diff. What am I missing?
The Anarchist FAQ is rated pretty high, not that unexpected though, there are many similarities between the free software movement and the libertarian socialist movement.
I'm 26, will I live to see the next Debian stable release? I know, my days are numbered, I only have 17444 or so left.
287 vim 1632 1205 155 272 0
:-) :-)
1784 vim-gtk 303 235 27 41 0
....
vim-perl
vim-python
vim-ruby
kvim,
*and* all _other_ variations of vi!
ah, and vim installations tend to be less "old" and more "used" than even emacs...
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yeah
13CDs! 13!
you do not need to bundle everything ever released for Debian in the installtion medias, by the time you will have enough knowledge about your system and a few apps, most of those found on the CD will be outdated anyway. At the pace Linux devellopement is going you could just give a bunch of link pointing to the respective wares, it would be a bit more logical.
13cds!
man,
sometimes too much is like not enough!
And some say this "thing" is ready for the desktop,
dream on!
Already have it installed since a couple of months. :)
Never quite knew what it was for, but it looked nice
...but not something simple like XFree86.
:-)
That's probably a first...
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just because a package is installed, doesn't mean that it's used. for e.g. i have vi, but i don't use it.
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If you want a real challenge, try getting apt-get to the bottom.
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And that's not even taking into account that to do anything in emacs takes more keystrokes than in vi! That means even more time is spent in emacs, making it the sure-fire winner.
Karma: It's all a bunch of tree-huggin' hippy crap!