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Gimp Hits 2.0
jf writes "Gimp 2.0 released! From gimp.org: "This release is a major event, marking the end of a three year development cycle by a group of volunteers and enthusiasts who have made this the most professional release of the GIMP ever. It is the first stable release that is officially supported not only on Unix-based operating systems, but also on Microsoft Windows and Macintosh OS X." Get it from ftp.gimp.org or from the mirror sites."
Now maybe I can figure out how to use the thing.
If it's officially supported - where's the Windows binary then? :-?
I'm glad that this release improves the accessability to normal enthusiasts. A person pointed me to the Gimp once about half a year ago, and I couldn't stand to use it because of the god-awful interface that I encountered. I'll definitely give it a try.
Is that on K-tel records?
Do I get one free if I order Mr. Microphone?
--J(K) DOS is like Unix in exactly the same way that a pinto is like an aircraft carrier.
Last time I checked, MacOS X was at least as "Unix-Based" (darwin) as Linux, if not more...
I was offered a penny for my thoughts, so I gave my two cents... I got ripped off!
Well, I've been using the betas under both linux and windows for a month or so now, and I must say that this is a FANTASTIC improvement, which goes much deeper than just the improved UI.
Before this I used to use photoshop for much of my work, and Gimp for areas where I either needed the software on a machine that did not warrant a photoshop license, or to deal with alpha layers properly (which photoshop is terrible for). Photoshop is great for printing based people, but has some major miss-features for computer graphics use.
Gimp 2.0 however is much better than photoshop IMHO for many many jobs, although it is still just a bit lacking in the automation-of-tasks area.
Congratulations and Thanks to all the people involved in this fantastic piece of software!
The screenshots look simply awsome.
Going to install that now.
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the mac binary gimp.app is still prerelease 3. it isn't updated yet.
Evolution or ID?
Yeah, I will finally get to know how to use it eaither. These floating window schema was the dummiest thing ever. Well, actually now there is Sun LookingGlass... DIA could do the same,
Photoshop is definitely much better and more mature than the Gimp, but it comes with a $600 pricetag. The Gimp starts to become more of an option when you don't have to use some of the more intensive photoshop filters. (So people actually do pay for photoshop, enough-so that Adobe had some good earnings this quarter).
no reason to knock the gimp. It has an amazing cost to ability ratio.
Here is a formatting-free, cut-and-paste, hack job.
ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/gimp// g /l and / (web access)p /g /
http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/software/gimp/gimp/ (web access)n ia/ r /i mp/
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Africa
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Australia
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ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/gimp/
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/gimp/ (web access)
ftp://gimp.zeta.org.au/
Austria
ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/graphics/gimp/
Denmark
ftp://ftp.jaquet.dk/pub/gimp/
Finland
ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/sci/graphics/packages/gimp
France
ftp://ftp.minet.net/pub/gimp/
http://ftp.iut-bm.univ-fcomte.fr/pub/gimp/ (web access)
Germany
ftp://ftp.fh-heilbronn.de/pub/mirrors/ftp.gimp.or
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/grafik/gimp/
http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/grafik/gimp/ (web access)
Greece
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Ire
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http://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp
Japan
ftp://SunSITE.sut.ac.jp/pub/archives/packages/gim
ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/graphics/tools/gimp/
ftp://ftp.ring.gr.jp/pub/graphics/gimp/
http://www.ring.gr.jp/pub/graphics/gimp/ (web access)
http://mirror.nucba.ac.jp/mirror/gimp/ (web access)
ftp://mirror.nucba.ac.jp/mirror/gimp/
Korea
ftp://ftp.kreonet.re.kr/pub/tools/X11/ftp.gimp.or
Netherlands
ftp://gnu.kookel.org/pub/gimp/
http://gnu.kookel.org/ftp/gimp/ (web access)
ftp://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/software/gimp/gimp/
Norway
ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/gimp/
Poland
ftp://ftp.tuniv.szczecin.pl/pub/Linux/gimp/
ftp://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/graphics/gimp/
Roma
ftp://ftp.kappa.ro/pub/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/
ftp://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/pub/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org
http://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/ (web access)
Russia
ftp://ftp.sai.msu.su/pub/unix/graphics/gimp/mirro
http://gimp.tsuren.net/mirror/gimp/ (web access)
Spain
http://sunsite.rediris.es/mirror/gimp/ (web access)
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/gimp/
Sweden
ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gimp/
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/gnu/gimp/
http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/gnu/gimp/ (web access)
Turkey
ftp://ftp.hun.edu.tr/pub/linux/gimp/
United Kingdom
ftp://ftp.flirble.org/pub/X/gimp/gimp/
ftp://unix.hensa.ac.uk/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/pub/g
United States
ftp://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/gimp/
I had a dream that I woke up surrounded by windows floating around before my eyes. I knew what I wanted was in one of the windows -answer just on the tip of my tongue. As each window passed by, confusing icons flashed symbols -almost helping me figure it out.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon, Marshal of France - speaking truth to power
I did a usability study of GIMP 1.3 running on Windows and most people who had Photoshop experience soon got the hang of it.
Finally they've added a menu onto each project window, but it is still lacking in one way, the number of entries on the window bar. Each tool dock creates its own entry which causes clutter. It should be possible to have one entry but who knows, maybe this isn't possible with current versions of GTK? Photoshop does this by having the dock windows within a container window.
Other minor niggles, the icons are much improved over v1.2 but I still find them a bit unclear. The knife icon for cropping resembles a brush and I don't really see how a drop of water represents Blur/Sharpen?
While I do like the new dock and the tabs, it's unusable if you resize the toolbox window into a very narrow strip. Meaning at the resolution I run at (1152x864) it takes up around a fifth of the screen width.
But it's much better than 1.2 anyway!!!
And does photoshop still have broken alpha, there it tried to use a non-standard tiff layer to represent what 100% of other software places in a standardised alpha layer?
I'll keep my Gimp thank!
And yes, I use this professionally, very porfessionally, I produce live television graphics systems. Photoshop has the most broken alpha support of anything out there!
Photoshop was designed for prepress use, and is broken for most other purposes.
Gimp 2.0, which I have been using in beta for some time, does everything better than photoshop, other than CMYK support (not an issue for anyone but prepress) and automation, which is a little more clunky. It more than makes up for these things in it's fineness of control for basic functions, and speed.
mkdir -p /etc/portage && echo '=media-gfx/gimp*' >> /etc/portage/package.unmask
and never edit profiles/package.mask again.
You could always draw straight lines with a minimum of trouble.
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For the same reason it dosn't serve web pages. It is not a drawing tool, it is an Image Manipulation Program. Not that I would mind if they addedd better drawing functionality.
"Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
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is it, at last, possible to simply draw lines or arcs ? It is pretty useful, so why do they snub such functionalities ?
This has always been possible. To draw a line, select a paintbrush or a pencil. Click on the start of the line, shift-click on the end of the line.
To draw a circle, use the circle selection tool, and then go to edit->stroke. To draw an arc, just draw the circle on a new layer, and erase the part you don't want.
CinePaint (formerly known as FilmGimp) has been used in quite a few well known films and was forked from Gimp 1.x.
Link to CinePaint
I'm a graphic artist and I use gimp and photoshop, along with opencanvas, illustrator and painter. They are all essential parts of my work. Gimp may not be as good as photoshop, but I use it for small effects because I like the look it achieves. It's kind of like using a ballpoint pen instead of a pencil. Sure, graphite pencils or quality brush pens are better, but the look of ballpoint can't be duplicated by anything else.
Really though, you probably don't really understand why photoshop is better than gimp to begin with. You probably like it because of the crappy filters and effects that come with it, but those are a total joke to anyone slightly professional. Everyone who is serious uses his own custom brushes and textures, and I use photoshop the most because of the power it has over brush controls (especially with my wacom tablet). Gimp still has it's place though, and it's an important one.
It's not just me, either. There are several other artists in my studio who use gimp all the time, too.
"I have no graphics experience whatsoever."
That's probably a good thing.. That way you're not stuck thinking, "hmph.. that's not how photoshop does it."
BTW, if you really need CMYK support in gimp now, you may look at http://www.blackfiveservices.co.uk/separate.shtml . It is a really nice plugin and gimp won't match its functionality for a long time (full CMYK support in gimp is planned to be complete sometime in spring 2005...).
Wow love the new website! If you've not seen how bad (out of date) the old one was then give it a look. The website has finally updated to reflect the quality of the software.. now if only Glade's website would do the same my two favourite apps would have made themselves presentable to others.
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Data stored in EXIF tags by digital cameras are now handled in read and write mode for JPEG files.
Photoshop is not broken but if you want to play the part of the drama queen, don't let me stop you. Here's a discussion about how and why Photoshop handles alphas and transparency. Here's a small hint, they're actually two seperate concepts. Chris Cox, by the way, is one of the Photoshop developers so he knows what he's talking about.
If you can't code, then go to rentacoder or simular sites and pay somebody to add the features you think you need... chances are it will still be cheaper than paying for an equivalent commercial product. What part of "It is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness" are you not quite clear on?
"Freedom means freedom for everybody" -- Dick Cheney
"You need CMYK? CODE it or PAY someone to do it for you."
But isn't that what he's doing by paying for a commerical application (Photoshop in this case)?
"Open source is not about getting stuff for free, but giving and receiving."
At the risk of being called flamebait, that won't do spit of good toward a true Desktop Linux end-user solution. Those of us developing software can give as well as take. But Joe End-User just wants to get their job done. Take take take. The mantra of the end-user.
And that's exactly what desktop linux is going to have to address, heck embrace.
GIMP for Windows
FAQ | Stable version | Development version | Source code | ] Installers for GIMP for Windows Development version download
This is the development version of The Gimp. It will open a console (MS-DOS) window when it's run to display debugging messages. Do not close this window.
It is highly recommended to update GTK2 to the newest version before installing Gimp 2.0pre4, as some bugs have been fixed since the last release.
Note: The Gimp binary available from this page was compiled for Pentium MMX or better CPUs.
GTK+ 2 for Windows (version 2.2.4-20040124) 3619 kB GTK+ 2 runtime environment. This package is required by The Gimp 2.0.
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Warning: both these plug-ins are considered unstable.
Note: Due to a problem with the GTK+ installer, the FreeType plug-in will not work, unless you copy the file freetype-6.dll to freetype6.dll in C:\Program Files\Common Files\GTK\2.0\bin\ folder.
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If you wish to compile plug-ins for use with this Gimp version, you can get the development files here.
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This piece of crap crashes on Windows for no reason
;-)
Tried it, blew it off. Highly unrecommended.
Yeah, Windows has that tendency. Glad to see you've decided to switch to another OS.
"Tell me doctor, with all of your defenses, are there any provisions for an attack by killer bees?"
ya and that's why I made a torrent :-) now let's watch my tracker/web server die
http://engert.us/gimp-2.0.0.tar.bz2.torrent
It is the first stable release that is officially supported not only on Unix-based operating systems, but also on Microsoft Windows and Macintosh OS X.
That's like saying that it's supported not only on Windows, but on Windows 98. Mac OS X IS a Unix based operating system.
Does it support ICC profiles? This is something that's really important to me. My old version of Adobe has a tendancy to crash when printing >100MB images, so I've resorted to tweaking in photoshop and printing in Gimp... but it'd be nice to do it all in Gimp.
You quitting proves that the karma kap worked. The most annoying of the whores shut up. --CmdrTaco
Photoshop still rocks it
No doubt to mask the pronounced adam's apple and large knuckles that didn't seem nearly as apparent when s/he approached after the third beer.
I'd like to point out that for the price of Photshop (which is a very good program) you can get Photoshop+Gimp. So why put down the GIMP?
I'll agree with that.
Every time that there is a post about a gimp upgrade on slashdot, the posts degenerate into photoshop vs. gimp debates.
Seriously, who cares? Some of us don't run windows, and every version of Photoshop after 8 or so doesn't run worth a crap in Wine; so we use what works best in Linux, which is Gimp. Windows users can use Photoshop. Sure, it's better in a lot of ways - I won't argue that - but you use the best tool you have. Personally I will never have another windows installation on my systems, for many reasons. So.... Gimp for me. It works for what I do (texture creation for 3d models).
I'd like to see a post on
So much to ask?
SB
It's old. The more humans I meet, the more I like my cats. At least they are honest.
You're wasting your time when you could be doing more productive things which would help you create your websites more quickly instead of worrying about 1k or so in a jpeg
Variable compression(controlled by a mask) allows you to crank up the compression on low detail areas and use much finer compression at important parts, such as the edges of UI elements where compression artifacts would be noticed immediately. It can yield enormous savings, much greater than 1kB, and solves the #1 problem with JPEG- it's not dynamic and does NOT handle edges well.
Furthermore, even 1kB can have substantial cost savings for a client. If they get 1 million hits a day, they most certainly care about 1kB, because that's roughly $2-3/day in bandwidth charges. That's a thousand bucks a year, which pays for a whole lot of time for a graphics designer to squeek every last kilobyte out of an entire site's worth of images. Why do you think people install mod_gzip on servers to compress HTML? Why do you think many sites strip down the headers Apache sends in requests?
It's ok, we have broadband (or 56k modems at the very worst).
a)most people do NOT have broadband, b)56k modems typically get around 33.6kbps at best(22kbps is not uncommon for some folks out in the middle of nowhere), which works out to around 4.2kB/sec. If I knock 5kB off an image, you'll see it a second faster.
Please help metamoderate.
There's a snide remark about "MCSE" to be had here, but I'm not going to touch it.
If you prefer Adobe to Gimp, that's great too... buy it and use it. Judge the tradeoffs in cost and functionality for yourself and choose the best tool for you.
-1, Too Many Layers Of Abstraction
So basically you have no insight here or have even used Gimp 2.0. You just felt like being a troll?
I swear Adobe users are some of the biggest Trolls I've met on the Net. Everywhere I go where someone dares to mention an alternative, the Adobe trolls freak out and show up in massive numbers to diss anything non-Adobe. If it wasn't cmyk it would just be some other thing.
Why can't you Photoshop snobs just accept the fact that Gimp is a decent image editor that differs from Photoshop and leave it at that. Why are you so freaking insulted that non-Adobe products are available? You have stock in Adobe or something?
Gimp is certainly the best Free image editor available and for home users it will do anything you could possibly want, especially when it comes to digital photography.
But then again I guess I'm just wasting my breath.
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Note: Number 9 below is especially cool if you have an investment in Photoshop-plugins.
From:http://members.home.nl/m.weisbeek/gimp/