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NYT Discovers Internet's Wild Side: IRC
maztec writes "The New York Times (free soul-sucking registration required) published an article today entitled The Internet's Wilder Side. Apparently, according to the article, 'the Internet has come to resemble a pleasant, well-policed suburb , [but] a little-known neighborhood known as Internet Relay Chat remains the Wild West.' In essence the article concerns itself with how IRC is the breeding ground of all the Internet's Evils, from animal pornography and illegal file sharing to virus making and computer cracking, it all starts here. I'd continue pointing out interesting quotes, but that'd be a waste. Go read it yourself. And if you're on IRC, remember, you're evil. Even if you're one of those do-gooders who uses Mozilla, LFS, or FreeNode servers for software development."
I can't wait to see what happens when they discover newsgroups. Man, their heads will pop. ;)
Wow. The New York Times has discovered IRC. What an amazing discovery. What are they going to discover next? Pennsylvania? I'd love to hear their hard-hitting expose about Pittsburgh.
===== Murphy's Law is recursive. =====
Next thing you know, they'll be raving about the wonders of Archie, Veronica and Gopher!
I guess I need to work on a maniacal laugh or on holding my extended pinkie to the corner of my mouth. And there I thought I was just getting help with Gentoo and Fedora Core 2 Test 3...
..they haven't found bash.org yet!
Obviously, they're refering to usenet. I mean, I haven't seen a fatal shooting there in quite some time.
Time to go back to BBS for all the evil stuff.
IRC is the breeding ground of all the Internet's Evils
/list for the first time on efnet....
It was in 1996 that I developed my eye twitch. That was just after having read
"All great things are simple & expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." --Churchill
they should see Ebay. There's some weird shit for sale there....
The Blaster Master Fighting for Truth, Justice, and Evil Pie since 1979
I, for one, welcome our new evil IRC overlords...
But truly, you want to know something that is the epitome of evil, that represents fire and brimstone, and a general sense of Rotting.... Netsplits!
Oh the Horror!
Yes! I listen to NYC Speedcore and do math at 3AM. I suggest you try it too.
President Bush sends US Marshalls into IRC to try to bring law and order.
"Glory is fleeting but obscurity is forever" - Napoleon Bonapart.
Talk about being late to a party. They are later than my girlfriend's period. zing!
The NYT has an article on us being 'evil'! Just saw it on Slashdot, go see it :-P
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:-) That'll teach them to badmouth irc, thank god for that Slammer virus that let us build up those zombies!
<creat1ve> What?
<creat1ve> Damn.. they suck!!
<creative> hack-bot, DDOS nytimes.com
<hack-bot> Initializing DDOS
<l1ght> Haha, nytimes.com down
== Jez ==
Do you miss Firefox? Try Pale Moon.
You mean the Discovery channel distributes on IRC? How many times have I seen two Rhinos doing the nasty with some British snooty guy narrating on PBS? Please, NY Times. This is nothing new. Heck, I even got a shot of flies getting busy on my balcony. You would think these New York City folk wouldn't be such prudes.
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
In other news, the Washington Post discovers that they have the internet for computers now.
"I.R.C. is where you are going to find your 'elite' level pirates,'' said John R. Wolfe, director for enforcement at the Business Software Alliance, a trade group that fights software piracy."
rofl,im1337h4xx0r!iwill0wnj00rb0x0r!
That depends. We talking animals with other animals, or animals with people? The former you can find on the Discovery Channel; the latter, not so much.
Glonoinha the MebiByte Slayer
you got this link in a IRC channel. . . right?
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I believe the article proves you are incorrect. IRC is not just a medium, apparently.
Yet that pirated copy of Microsoft Office or Norton Utilities that turns up on a home-burned CD-ROM may well have originated on I.R.C.
Pirated software can originate from IRC itself (not the clients or the servers)
The whole idea behind I.R.C. is freedom of speech. There is really no structure on the Internet for policing I.R.C., and there are intentionally no rules. Obviously you're not allowed to hack the Pentagon, but there are no rules like 'You can't say this' or 'You can't do that.'
You can hack the pentagon from IRC, you just arent supposed to.
[I can picture a world without war, without hate. I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it]
errm....because we're all dying to know.
If IRC is evil, then Yahoo! Chat is the 7th level of Hell. At least IRC has real moderators.
and "moderator" dont help
its called #channels and operators.
n00b
The system had the verbosity of HTML combined with all the readability of compiled assembly viewed as bitmap images
>And if you're on IRC, remember, you're evil.
First, that's Doctor Evil to you.Second, one wonders what sort of fit the NYT would have if someone ever tells them about Usenet.
Some mornings it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints to get out of bed.
..."IRC: Making megalomaniacs out of little boys since 1985" :P
"People" using "unnecessary" quotes should be "shot".
The soccer moms are going to freak out.
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Don't believe IRC is evil? Just try logging on with an even remotely female-sounding nick sometime.
oh yeah (beware, goatse ahead =)
Don't think of it as a flame---it's more like an argument that does 3d6 fire damage
pfft - it's chan & op :P
-- Mod me down. I am not a karma tart. ffs,gag
The first rule of USENET: DON'T talk about USENET!
The second rule of USENET: DON'T talk about USENET!
We're all doomed if they discover bash.org :)
Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me
To quote our most favorate scoundral, and smuggler....
/. didn't you? ADMIT IT! You did didn't you?
Where did you dig up that old FOSSIL?!?!?!?!?!?!
Where in the galaxy, (far, far away obiously) did this writer come up with this information? The WEB a "Plesent and well policed suburb"?!@?!?!?!?!? Has this SETH SCHIESEL even been on the internet? What about popups? What about Adware? What about that damn "comet cursor"
Where the heck has this SETH SCHIESEL been?
I can see it now... An Interview with SETH SCHIESEL by Xystren
Xystren : "We would like to welcome SS, foremost NY Times expert on the internet. Welcome SS"
ss : "Thank you, it's a pleasure being here, and more importantly, to provide information about the internet. There are many bad areas in the internet, just like there are bad neighbourhoods in larger citys"
Xystren : "Oh? Is that so? You sound surprised that the internet can be a dangerous place?"
ss : "Well of course, it's not like a policed suburb, we are talking a bad, industral area type thing, you know, where gangs, drugs, and the underground types hang out, ready to mug or hijack you at the earliest opportunity"
Xystren : "Where exactly have you been going to find these nice "suburbs" as you have put it.
ss : "Well, at my work computer (I don't have the internet at home, you see), I go on the internet and search for things. It's really quite a wonderfull tool to tell the truth. All the NY times stories and such. It's really a wonderfull and safe and informative place."
Xystren : "so your saying that you've only gone onto the internet, via the NY Times article search?"
ss : "Exactly!"
Xystren : [trying to contain laughter] "Are you aware that would be condsidered an "inTRAnet" and not the "inTERnet??"
ss : "Uhh, well, they sound the same, aren't they the same thing?"
Xystren : No, they aren't the same things. [turning head shouting] "John, I thought you screened these people, Where did you dig up that old FOSSIL?!?!?!?!?!?! SS doesn't know jack about the internet.[Sorry Xyst, we had time we needed to fill]
SS : Old Fossil? what does that mean?
Xystren : "Why don't you go look it up on google, yahoo, or lycos??"
SS : "What are those?"
Xystren : "What are those!?!?!?!???? What do you mean what are those? They are some of the Internet's most common and popular search engines! Are you even the least bit familar about the internet at all? Have you heard of popups? have you heard about malware? infact, do you even know what browser is???
ss : "Well uhhh, no...."
Xystren : "Where did you even get your information for you research??"
ss : "well, uhh, ummm..."
Xystren : "I can tell, you got it from
ss : [sheepishly replies] uhh, yeah...
Xystren : "So there you have it, another non-NERD trying to use "News for Nerd - The stuff that matters". This is the real danger of the internet people, BEWARE!
What more can I say???
ss : "I still don't get this 'old fossil'"
Xystren : "it's ok ss, your not a nerd, your not ment to get it"
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if you can't dazzel them with dexterity, baffle them with bu))$h!t
I just emailed the NYT with the following:
"You think IRC is bad? Just wait until you see what Slashdot.org is saying about you and your article!"
Next up in tomorrow's edition of the NYT, an 'in-depth' analysis of the Slashdot editorial ethics and comment threads.
VoC (voice over copper) might have its legal uses but it is also one of the preferred meeting places of pimps, drug dealers and maybe even terorists. And don't think you are protected, as most homes are known to have a VoC access points, connected in the same network with public ones that can connect you with unthinkable villainry for as low as 50c. Fortunately, the FBI has been working on getting VoC surveillance rights that will ensure your safety, so hang on tight, you will be completely safe soon!
A little long, oh well, you can't be banned from Slashdot? Right? Right..? :/
:/3 1u its/06chat.html?pagewanted=2&ei=5062&en=a1bb0d2c7d 187e80&ex=1084420800&partner=GOOGLE :/ :/ :D :| :P
00:57 (NeGz) god I hate media FUD like that NY Times article on IRC
00:57 (NeGz) just saw it then
00:57 (@Yavin) yer its crazy
00:58 (@Yavin) "this just in, there is a secret BBS on the intarweb!!!!"
00:58 (@Yavin) "crossing LIVE to Trishia Takinawa, with a report on the hotline protocol!"
00:59 (@Yavin) wtlw NYT!
00:59 @Yavin gets all angry
00:59 (@Devar) lol Yavin
00:59 (@Nevyn^) what _are_ you on about
00:59 (NeGz) but you read this shit and you understand why some people will never bank over the net and such
01:00 (@Yavin) this Nevyn^: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/05/06/13252
01:00 (NeGz) http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/06/technology/circ
01:00 @Yavin moderates NeGz -1, Redundant
01:00 (NeGz) sif
01:00 (NeGz) direct link to article
01:00 (NeGz) +5 Informative, every time
01:00 (@Yavin) hehe
01:01 (NeGz) rah
01:02 (NeGz) need an educational campaign
01:02 (NeGz) GAMFUD - Geeks Against Media Fear, Uncertanity and Doubt -_-
01:02 (@Yavin) or we could hire a bus, deck it out in wifi and tour the countryside. paint "The Clue Bus" on it and inform people on why tech isnt evil
01:03 (@Yavin) or we could idle on irc and bitch about stuff
01:03 (NeGz) have the headline of gamfud.org as PEBKAC
01:03 (NeGz) yeah, idling sounds good
01:03 (NeGz) also sleep
01:03 (@Yavin) give articles such as that NYT piece the bigg rubber stamp of FAILURE
01:04 (NeGz) I'm amazed that there are guys in my network security classes at Tafe that won't bank over the net
01:04 (Ultima84) I bank over the net...
01:04 (@Devar) rofl, they wont? man i fucking do everything over the net hey
01:04 (@Yavin) haha yeah
01:04 (NeGz) all you need is enough knowhow to check that you're not being phished/DNS spoofed and that the damn site's SSL cert is legit/secure
01:04 (@Devar) i even applied for an E*TRADE account on the net >_
01:05 (NeGz) I don't like shopping elsewhere -_-
01:05 (@Devar) mind you i dont have the $1000 minimum to actually OPEN it
01:05 (@Devar) but who cares
01:05 (Ultima84) I bought crap off eBay
01:05 (NeGz) I've got no car, so going places that aren't on the train line is TME
01:05 (@Devar) hehe NeGz yeah
01:06 (NeGz) should post this convo to slashdot -_-
01:06 (@Yavin) +5 insightful
01:07 (@Devar) haha NeGz go for it, edit it correctly and it'd probably be modded up since its in context LOL
01:08 (NeGz) bags the karma
"I.R.C. is where you are going to find your 'elite' level pirates,'' said John R. Wolfe, director for enforcement at the Business Software Alliance, a trade group that fights software piracy. "If they were only associating with each other and inbreeding, maybe we could coexist alongside them. But it doesn't work that way."
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I direct the readers attention to the quote in the above: "If they were only associating with each other and inbreeding, maybe we could coexist alongside them."
So, people on IRC need sex0r each other, and the fedz will leave 'em alone, right?
-10 marks for incomplete assumptions. I think you mean "assume a spherical cow in a vacuum".