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RFID Implants for Spanish Revelers
WWW/X writes "USA Today reports that clubbers in Barcelona are getting drunk and being implanted on site with RFID chips in order to pay their bills without carrying around bulky items such as credit cards. The article states that the implant can go anywhere, however it does not state whether anyone has chosen their forehead." The club's website describes the program (link in spanish).
Loved it, loved the music, loved the food, still wouldn't get RFID to pay for drinks.
Ok this is so yesterday. I got my waver at Baja, people, and I can't love it enough. It's phat because I can totally wave it in front of any of the bartenders and like bam I have a drink. It's even better in the summer because it's like totally hot right now (third day of this awful humidity) and so I can wear like anything hot that I want and I don't have to carry a PURSE or those lame KEYCHAIN WALLETS and stuff. So anyway at the library once this guy was all freaking out on me about how I got "implanted" and I was going to be "tracked and monitored" and said "don't you read Slashdot?". He was gross and I ran away but that's how I found out about this site.
Anyway I've read here long enough to know that no one here is going to want a waver but that's cool because I'm just guessing here that only uncool ugly people are going to get all wigged about being cool and not having to carry a wallet. Which just means more hot guys at Baja for me.
Smack that ass, boyfriend!
"... anyone has chosen their forehead."
Or right hand for that matter.
Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose.
USA today says that it's made out of glass... couldn't this possibly break? Ouch. Then again, USA Today is known for their high quality journalism...
Get RFID tag installed.
Don your tinfoil hat.
Drink.
Trolling is a art,
"...that bump? No, no no no--you've got it all wrong! I'm clean--that's my RFID chip! Really! Wait! Come back!"
Obliteracy: Words with explosions
Lean against the bar and accidently buy everybody a round!
Or better, yet muggers using a knife and cutting out the implant. I'd feel better if the scanner would only work an inch or two from the chip, rather than several feet. Otherwise, in a crowded bar how would you know who is paying?
The grass is only greener, if you don't take care of your own lawn.
It is also rumored that many Barcelona escort services are looking into this method of payment for services.
does the chip stay or does your body slowly reject it and shoot it across the room? Maybe they could make disposible ones, that they can swallow and pass it a day or two later... that would be gross, but no implants...
- Your stupidity got you into this mess, why can't it get you out? -Will Rogers
all news today is "smart this.. implant that..."
you can take your RFID and shove it up your ass! literally!
..but counterfeiting/identity theft issues as well. If the RFID is readable that easily, I can just read of the wealthist customer's RFID and make one with his ID for myself. Voila, I'll have a drunken night at the club!
of when I was in Mallorca getting polaxed every night. The fact that I had to use cash meant that I could pace myself and not blow all my money, as you would do very quickly when you're so drunk that you could lose track of how much (or little) money you can spare. If I was able to just wave my hand and get a drink I'd be bankrupt in no time. I think that's a more pressing concern than any privacy issues.
Drill baby drill - on Mars
How about the option to put it in, for example:
A ring
A necklace
An earring, nose ring, etc.
A bracelet
A watch
All of these seem a lot safer, putting things under the skin can be really really dangerous. How do you go about getting it out if you're done with it? What if someone clones your id? What if it migrates to somewhere else in your body?
It's times like this that I'm glad we have an FDA here in the US.
I look foward to participating in the next run, and logging into my specially-fitted Palm Pilot as I run down the street and check the red dots on the screen so I know where the bull horns are so I can avoid them.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
they have to get me very drunk to let them implant me a rfid thingie
Only morons moderate based on a sig.
What a load of crap! The /. descriptions says clubbers in Barcelona are getting drunk and being implanted on site with RFID chips which maks it sound like the club is tagging passed out patrons with a chip without their consent. In fact the bar is sponsoring the chip implants and people can sign up for them. I'm not saying that it makes the idea OK, but it's a heck of a lot better than a story about waking up with an ID embedded in your arm. Let's try to tell it like it is a little more, even if it is /.
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Was there last year, and I can see it now... The british kids selling Ectasy at Space, Pacha, El Divino and cafe Del Mar, can just bill you electronically.
Shows up on credit card as "adult entertainment". I see the potential for abuse.
Alright! Now I can get drunk, pay my tab, and be tracked where ever I go. I'll never be lost again! In fact now the bartender will know exactly what I like so when I'm too trashed to order he will still know what I'm looking for.
In Addition, I'm sure other merchants will catch on to the fact that I have an RFID tag and they will make wonderful use of it as well! This is a marvelous idea! Maybe now someone will remember my name.
-This sig has been discontinued after a sudden realization.
D'oh! If Sauron had remembered to embed an RFID chip in that damn ring when he first had it made, it would have saved him and many others thousands of years of "looking for lost jewelry" trouble.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
Wave a body part and get a drink? So what! Girls have had this power since forever. And for them the drink is free.
Great, now my arm can look like my keychain with a half-dozen different "rewards" RFID chips... The added side benefit with all that junk in your arm will be when you light up the metal detector at the airport like a Christmas tree... and then the friendly TSA agent dons the rubber gloves...
Yeah those pesky bulky 50x30x0.5 mm^3 credit cards - don't want to lug one of those around.
If you pass out, your RFID chip still works, guess who's buying!
At least with cash, when your out, your done. Credit cards have a signature and some liability, what do the RFID tags have? (sorry no habla)
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Actually, I think the whole article is just wierd. At least three topics have been rammed together into this article. Does anyone have any proof that this is actually happening, or is this just some marketing hype that a reporter fell for?
Have a look at the professional enviroment where they do the implant:
Baja implant photo.
This could be a hit with nudiest colonies or naked people that like to go shopping with their credit card. Go figure.
I'll start.
1:1 "And the Anonymous Coward, whose attempts to inspire many trolls had failed, ventured to the dark land of the savages. 'Why,' the dark savages questioned, 'has the nerd ventured so far from his Homeland?'"
1:2 "'Perhaps he is feeling adventurous.'"
1:3 "After the savages' intrusive physical examinations, the Anonymous Coward could only drink. And for seven days, he did."
1:4 "On the seventh day, he awoke to the unpleasant sensation of an RFID. To his dismay, the object had been installed in the forbidden cavity."
Do you like German cars?
Nobody expects the Spanish Implantation.....
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Spain Launches Microchip Implantation for VIP Members
Baja Beach Club in BarcelonaUPDATE April 7, 2004 2:30 PM CST
Note from Alex Jones:
I interviewed Conrad Chase for 30 minutes on my syndicated radio broadcast. He told me that the CEO of VeriChip, Mr. Bolton, had told him that there was a plan to use the VeriChip as a global implantable identity system. I asked him if whether in the future you would have to have a chip to get into the club period, and he said yes.
I said laughingly, that you're not going to be a VIP in the world if you don't have a chip, to which he responded that that was a great slogan that he would start using.
He went on to say that all gun owners should have to have a microchip implanted in their hand to be able to own a gun. He also said that the VeriChip company had told him that the Italian government was preparing to implant all of their government workers. He said that this is a great system that he believes will replace credit cards for buying and selling.
I asked him where he was getting all of these ideas and he said that he had learned all of this from discussions with VeriChip, and that he was aware that the plant making the chips was in Beijing, China.
It doesn't get any more bone-chilling than this. They are going to sell microchips as the ultimate in trendiness.
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Club Director: "The chip will prevail...I believe wholeheartedly in the
chip system."
Violet Jones
Infowars.com
April 7, 2004
Baja Beach Club owner Conrad Chase wanted something unique to identify his VIP patrons. Other clubs had special jewelry or key chains, but he was looking for something special. After brainstorming, he came up with the idea to implant his VIP members with VeriChip's implantable microchip.
Alex has spoken many times over the years about how they would make the chip "fun," and how, by giving it an elite status, an entire generation of young teenagers would soon be arguing with their parents demanding that they let them be implanted so that they can be in the "in" crowd.
The Baja Beach Club and Chase have proved that the trend has started.
When I spoke to Mr. Chase this morning he told me that his implant launch had gotten the international media's attention. He himself was implanted at the media launch of the VIP implant system along with stars from the Spanish version of the TV Show, "Big Brother," (called "Grand Hermano" in Spain).
He also told me that he had been in touch with the VeriChip Corporation and that there were several new developments with their implant system including the Belgian subsidiary of firearm company, FN Herstal, which manufactures Browning and Smith and Wesson firearms, launching a implant-firearm system which would make a firearm functional only to the individual implanted with its corresponding microchip.
"We have a special zone at Baja beach Club where only VIPs are allowed, which has various exclusive services for these members. We are the first discotheque in the world to offer the VIP VeriChip. Using an integrated (imbedded) microchip, our VIPS can identify themselves and pay for their food and drinks without the need for any kind of document (ID)."
Informant: Harlan Girard
Yeah but isn't this exactly how it starts?
This is scary. VERY scary.
I'm getting mine implned in my pee-pee.
That way, I can pay for my hookers at the same time I'm fucking them.
Moneyed corporations, non-working 'poor' and criminal prisoners are turning productive citizens into tax-slaves.
Just to try and head off some of the sillier comments here:
As anyone working in a Vet's Surgery will tell you, these sub-dermal chips have a read range of about 2-3 inches, so you don't have to worry about the club recording how many times you gave ten euros to the guy in the corner with all the funny bulges in his hat.
Sorry.
We will now return you to your normal paranoid service.
Once this ties in with slots...
Painlessly inserted? How about removed? A passport no matter how good you can always loose. With an rfid tag imbedded this becomes a lot harder. Does any current goverment want to use this? No probably not.
Then again think of the time when a certain european country started a database with the religion of its citizens and of their parents. And think of the time that passed before its true purpose become known. Can you predict wich kinda goverment we will have in a decade? The US 10 years ago was just getting rid of bush in favor of clinton, the netherlands was all peacefull and quiet with no-one making any political statements that were not Politically correct and politicians getting shot happened elsewhere. (for the non-dutch we had a huge uproar (by dutch standards) when Pim Fortuyn formed his own party and said things that no-one had dared say before but a lot of people were thinking. A openly gay charismatic person with some right wing and some left wing views who looked like he was going to win the election before being killed).
Scary stuff. Anyone that accepts this is insane.
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You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Thank god, finally someone has come up with a way to save me from the unbearable burden of hauling my friggin credit card from place to place.[/Sarcasm]
Now, if a credit card is too bulky for your outfit then you should have some of my sex... with me.
-- I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist. It's not my fault that life sucks so much. --
It's not real? Are you sure? I have already paid $2,500 to go participate in an archaelogical dig on the Italian shores of the Adriatic in August to help uncover the foundations of Barad-dur. Hope this isn't some sort of scam, but I'd better check into this just in case.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
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In a string bikini, ya, a credit card is a bulky item. You just haven't been to the right clubs...
not true, I had my credit card number stolen. One I never use on the net. but the thing is I still had the card. ya right they don't need to get the card to use it.
My guess is that some place I went to and payed with it, eather trashed their copy of it with the number on it (in pittsburgh many places still print out the full card number and exp date, I keep my copy in a box at home, but who know what they hell they do with theirs) or one of the servers copied the number down.
This is Barcelona. The place where there are theme days such as (and I have not made this one up) 1/2 price if you show up at the door in just your underwear.
Are these capsules sterile when inserted ?
How much training does the 'nurse' at the club have?
If the 'nurse' is so well trained, how come they aren't working in healthcare ?
What facilities are provided at the club to ensure a sterile working environment for the 'nurse' and patients ?
Are the capsules certified free from proteins that may cause immune responses ?
What sort of waiver do I have to sign to get one of these implanted ?
If I have a problem with the implant, do I contact the manufacturer, or is the bar going to provide care for complications arising from the device.
--Tsiangkun
In both cases, implants make this easier.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
Think about it:
If I get this implanted in my head, I want the dancers get the scanners implanted in their crotches...
It would make paying my bill pleasurable!
On a side note, the Baja Beach chain of clubs is by far the most fun I've ever been to. Mind you I went to the ones in the Netherlands, but I'm pretty sure they're all built around the same model.
Basically, the theme inside the club is that it's a beach resort. Fake palm trees, fake sand, etc. And the best part? The hosts and hostesses are all super-buff hotties wearing thongs. There's plenty of beefcake for the women and hot flesh for the men -- they literally walk around with only dental floss covering their bodies, selling you drinks on the dance floor. If you're willing to fork over extra money, you get a "body shot" where you drink your drink off the body of the hostess -- although that part grosses me out when you consider who else has licked there. And about every 15 minutes the hosts and hostesses get up on top of the tables and alternate between a male and a female striptease!
What else could a young, horny lad ask for?
Their VIPs must be stupid enough to give up their privacy in exchange of the convenience of not having to move cash around and the extra bonus of being handled and ID'd just like cattle are.
Geez. What happened to dignity?
Rich kids are indeed dumb...
My cats have RFID implants with a serial#.
;)
If they get lost their necklace tells the finder to call a number / go to a vet to get the number read.
The number corresponds with my address information in a database and I get a call.
My point is this: it's no 'new' technology and the chip does not migrate in the cat's body (it's implanted near the left shoulder).
Of course the implantation should be done by skilled people. My guess is that it ins't the bartender who implants the chip
Privacy is terrorism.
If you don't know Spanish very well, plug that link http://www.baja-beachclub.com/bajaes/asp/zonavip.a spx into Babelfish and read it. It's all futures. In Babelfish's translation:
Q: Conrad, you think that the VeriChip will have good welcome?
A: If, I know much people with desire to implant it to it. At the moment, almost everybody takes piercings, tattoos or silicone.
They're not doing it yet. They don't know whether anyone will be willing to use it.
"How to Do Nothing," kids activities, back in print!
to word everything as, like, a question? You know? "Like, I was like, down at the pool hall? And this totally cute guy came over? And I was like, Oh my God! I totally didn't know what to say? And he was like, 'whatever!'"
Drill baby drill - on Mars
So what if you get so drunk you pass out. Your buddies can just drag your carcass to the bar and get free drinks the rest of the night. There really should be an "off" switch. Perhaps the ability to set a max amount per day.
Barcelona does have one of the worst rates of pickpocketing in Europe. So I can see why people don't want to be carrying their wallets around when they're drunk.