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Microsoft Patents The Body Bus
Mz6 writes "Microsoft has been awarded a patent for using
human skin as a power conduit and data bus. Patent No.
6,754,472, which was published Tuesday, describes a method for transmitting power and data to devices worn on the body and for communication of data between those devices. In its filing, Microsoft cites the proliferation of wearable electronic devices, such as wristwatches, pagers, PDAs (worn on people's belts) and small displays that can now be mounted on headgear. "As a result of carrying multiple portable electronic devices, there is often a significant amount of redundancy in terms of input/output devices included in the portable devices used by a single person," says the filing. "For example, a watch, pager, PDA and radio may all include a speaker." To reduce the redundancy of input/output devices, Microsoft's patent proposes a personal area network that allows a single data input or output device to be used by multiple portable devices." (What about DoCoMo's research in this area?)
..... Micrsoft to sue all future survivors of lightning strikes.
I'm an EE, and I don't want my wife to inherit a lawsuit for patent infringement. ;)
+5:offtopic,but anti-American
This is a physical device and if there is no prior art then I think this is a very valid patent.
Somehow, the topic icon of Bill as a Borg seems more appropriate than ever.
Great now I can BSOD my brain!
What post? The one you're carrying inside your rusty innards!
A beowulf.
No, really!
When any of your portable devices detect that the DRM has been violated for their IP, they would like the wearer of the device to recieve a powerful electric shock, capable of causing paralysis.
...Microsoft have announced they are patenting the use of the human body as a energy source for computers.
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The Microsoft Slashdot icon has never been more accurate that it is with this article. Where are they getting the human skin to test this on? Interns? Seriously, though... just stick your finger into these electrodes, please.
Now that we can all be Borg, so I just want to know how long before we have Borg incubation chambers? Anyone with kids will back me on this... we need them. I would think the skin bus might cause cancer, wouldn't you? No FUD about it... this could be some scary shit when you consider Microsoft's security record, as well.
The dangers of knowledge trigger emotional distress in human beings.
My gut feeling is:
Under construction: swpat politics overview article
stay home. And don't ever move to Seattle.
They are also patenting the human built-in telescopic antenna array. Unfortunately, it will only be available to approximately 50% of the population.
DoCoMo's research is to transfer data via the body, which IBM also has done research (and most likely has some patents on). The MS patent is to power non-powered devices by having a power supply somewhere else that transmits the current through the skin. Similar, but different.
So I guess this might ultimately allow the transfer of data literally through a handshake ...
When I was 5 I discovered electricity for myself by sticking a fork in an outlet. Thereby proving Benjamin Franklin right and developing prior art to use against Microsoft. Ah, the follies of youth.
Comparing it to Windows will be a moot point, since El Dorado is going to have a 40% larger code base than XP.
...ActiveHerpes.
I prefer to pick up my own viruses and worms, thank you. I don't need MS "delivering" them to my skin.
...a relatively small, cheap speaker, each device will instead have a relatively large, expensive widget to use our nerves as cat-5 (human-5?) so we only have to shlep around one little speaker?
They are kidding, right?
-JDF
I beta tested the stuff, and now my butt won't stop rebooting...
A personal area network (PAN) is a technology that could enable wearable computer devices to communicate with other nearby computers and exchange digital information using the electrical conductivity of the human body as a data network. For example, two people each wearing business card-size transmitters and receivers conceivably could exchange information by shaking hands. The transference of data through intra-body contact, such as handshakes, is known as linkup. The human body's natural salinity makes it a good conductor of electricity. An electric field passes tiny currents, known as Pico amps, through the body when the two people shake hands. The handshake completes an electric circuit and each person's data, such as e-mail addresses and phone numbers, are transferred to the other person's laptop computer or a similar device. A person's clothing also could act as a mechanism for transferring this data.
The concept of a PAN first was developed by Thomas Zimmerman and other researchers at M.I.T.'s Media Lab and later supported by IBM's Almaden research lab.
sorry but MIT and IBM is way ahead of Microsoft in this with prior art.
hell I made a example prototype from the information I recieved from mister Zimmerman back in 1997 for playing around with PAN's when i was heavy into the wearable computing research.
Microsoft, what Idea can we steal today?
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
would anyone have any objections to this patent? This patent covers a physical device made of atoms just like 100% of all patents applied for 100 years ago. I do nto agree with sofwtare patents but I do with patents covering physical devices.
has violated this patent. Plus the old experiment in school, where the whole class holds hands in a string, and the person on each end each touches one lobe of a Van Der Graff generator. Everyone's hair rises, and whoever breaks the circuit gets the shock - but there was a circuit and power was being delivered, it was even doing work.
Here's the problem:
Patents are being awarded for spending a little time thinking. For having the luxury of free time to think, and company lawyers to file, companies are able to establish themselves as a gatekeeper.
Patents should be the product of effort - they were meant to reward that effort, and incent you to expend that amount of effort again in the future.
IMHO, these 'few hours of thought' patents are diametrically opposed to the concept of patents as enumerated in the Constitution.
The living have better things to do than to continue hating the dead.
I remember IBM had a demo product that would exchange virtual business cards via a handshake - it might well have been a plug-in to a Palm Pilot They theorized max xfer at 2400bps at the time - this was 1996-7 or so. Still looking for the link.
'ARRGH! Pirate Designers of the Internet, we be!'
Resistence is futile... errr... patented.
Those who can, do. Those who can't, consult.
I guess Kevin Warwick will enjoy the prospect of the Personal Area Network as described above, though. Now if only we could find a way to embed these devices directly into the skin and/or find a way to connect the input jacks directly into our brains...
(For those who don't know, Kevin Warwick is Professor of Cybernetics at Reading University, and performed an experiment on himself by implanting a tracking device into his arm, which allowed computers to determine which room he was in, and make judgements based on his position).
Brandon Glass's personal site.
Borg coments aside, I'd love to see this work. Turning the human skin into a data path has wonderful medical applications. Imagine being able to monitor pacemakers, hearing aids, and other prosthetic devices non-invasively.
Furthermore, this could open up the prospect of "implants" to help humans with different things. If Microsoft can really get data and power running through the human body, it could really usher in a new age of computing.
I'm just worried about the potential security vulnerabilities. I mean, imagine someone running down the street, flailing their arms wildly, screaming "My underwear's been infected by a virus! I can't take it off!"
Just wait until the first virus is written for such a system which can be spread by touch alone!
"Damn, I've got the Blue Arm of Death! Could someone press my reset switch for me"
There's some prior art for data transmission:/ pan/pan.html
http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/user
Where MS patent is different is they claim to do _power_ transmission as well.
I wonder about a Mr Tesla...
That said, I'm personally not comfortable with the idea of transmitting significant amounts of electrical power through my body- even low level power. Not sure what the side effects would be.
Already there are some studies that indicate that electromagnetic fields do affect the body AND brain.
I stumbled across this link, and although it strictly deals with bandwidth (not also with power, as in the Microsoft technology), it must be posted.
...*ducks*
Because, although many of us have suspected it before, it is now pretty much obvious that sooner or later, penises will have higher bandwidths than cable modems.
Brings a whole new meaning to the networking term "trunk".
I can see it now:
Defendant: No, no, no your honor, you've got it all wrong! Her battery died and I was just jumpstarting her devices!
Judge: Couldn't you have just shaken her hand?
Defendant: I thought if we got our juices flowing, maybe the conductivity would be greater?
Help a college student
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It's a new idea. While it has been known for a long time that the body conducts electricity, sending data through the body has not been acheived before. There has to be a good reason for this.
Presumably Microsoft has solved some specific engineering problems. They also probably spent a lot of money on solving them.
Why shouldn't they be entitled to financial reward?
IS FUTILE
;-)
...or at least pretty high... dry skin isn't a great conductor
sudo eat my shorts
well, with the download well present in the other 50% of the population, data mining just became a helluva lot more fun!
If ever there was justifiable reason to use the Borg icon instead of patent pending, I think this was it ...
: )
... will cost you an arm and a leg.
"Glory is fleeting but obscurity is forever" - Napoleon Bonapart.
Several years ago there was someone that created this technology. When two people with PDAs using this technology shook hands, the PDAs used the "circuit" to exchange contact information. The logic went something like, if you shake their hand, you want to share and collect their information. Unlike wireless, you didn't just blindly share your info with everyone in close proximity.
. 62,400 repetitions make one truth -- Brave New World, Aldous Huxley
Microsoft filed their patent (which is titled a "Method and apparatus for transmitting power and data using the human body") on April 27, 2000.
Yet at this web site, http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/user/pan/pan.html, there is a white paper (dated November 18-19, 1996) where IBM demonstrates their "new Personal Area Network technology that uses the natural electrical conductivity of the human body to transmit electronic data".
So, IBM demonstrated similar techniques back in 1996 that used the natural electrical conductivity to transmit data.
However, Microsoft's claims focus on power, and frequency adjustments, this is basis for their ability to send data.
One of Microsoft's claims states "modulating an information signal transmitted" using this signal; yet, in the IBM white paper it states that "The natural salinity of the human body makes it an excellent conductor of electrical current. PAN technology takes advantage of this conductivity by creating an external electric field that passes an incredibly tiny current through the body, over which data is carried."
My gut says that many of MS's claims are voided by prior art -- but one would need to study the MS claims in detail, and compare it to DoCoMo's and IBM's research on the subject, to make a truly educated rebuttal.
Sorry to nitpick on something so minor. The rest of the points in your comment are completely valid.
So where exactly does the fuse go?
Oh. Ew.
the major advances in civilization are processes which all but wreck the societies in which they occur - A.N. White
Body Bus = Skin Cancer?
It will certainly be a while before the long term effects of data or power over skin will be available. The lower levels of the epidermis constantly divide and push older dying cells outward to protect the body (info). Many things can cause improper division and lead to cancer. UV radiation everyone should already know about but so can excessive amounts from other radiant energy sources; such as electromagnetic or microwave. I don't believe short term exposure to low levels of energy have any chance of causeing problems in a healthy adult; but years of exposure over the same areas may be another story. There is no way in hell I want devices sending messages or power across my skin until there is significant data to say its safe.
"Capital punishment makes the state into a murderer. Imprisonment makes the state into a gay dungeon-master"
It'd bring a whole new meaning to having "worms"...
Gentoo Linux - another day, another USE flag.
My brain is prior art.
It gets it's energy from my body, and uses it as a data bus to send messages to my various other parts.
Horse shit.
There is no proof that RF causes cancer. Heard of an class action suits against cell phone manufacturers? No. You haven't.
Why?
Because this is horse shit.
Those little healing magnets you wear to align your shakras/amplify your aura/whatever-BS-they-foisted-off-on-you? Horse Shit.
Yes. You heard it here first.
As penence, you must watch no less than 5 episodes of Myth Busters. (not really punishment, but at least you'll be less likely to fall for this stuff in the future)
Fooz Meister
No, the future is much better than that! Imagine yourself covered in speakers or organic LEDs. They will use your skin to make you into a big billboard. Skin power transference also shows great promise in EULA and copyright enforcement. DMCA mark V will require placement of electrodes on all external genitalia at birth and terrorism, masturbation, pre and post marital sex and other evils will cease to exist.
Somehow, I'm not impressed. Everyone knows the conductive properties of skin and electro-cardiogram makers have researching human skin electrodes and signaling for decades.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
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Various forms of hearing aids have used this idea for several years. For people with hearing in one ear, you can 'transmit' the sound from the deaf ear to the working ear.
--bryan
There was a commercial campaign about 1997 or 1996 befor the CeBIT trade fair. That showed 2 business men shake hands and exchange digital business cards.
Maybe IBM was first in this one....
Just my 2 (Euro-)Cents....
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The facts will ultimately show that [insert deity of your choice] has prior art on this patent - It's called the nervous system!
Sig? - yeah, whatever.
well sort of
http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/user/pan/pan. html
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The Body Bus
Tom Zimmerman has shown that the noncontact coupling between your body and weak electric fields can be used to create and sense tiny nano-amp currents in your body. Modulating these signals creates Body Net, a personal-area network that communicates through your skin.
...will be on cardiograms.
Will we need to install electric shields around the heart region if we refuse to pay MS tax?
I hadn't the slightest objection to his spending his time planning massacres for the bourgeoisie... (P.G. Wodehouse)
I just read an article about a company researching how the human body can actually create small amounts of electricity itself. This would be used to power things like, say, a pace maker. But I'm not sure if this is the same idea that M$ is going for. Anybody know what I'm talking about?
Those who are defending this patent argue the MS is trying to patent power transfer more so than data transfer might wanna think about the fact that transfer power over your skin is extremely obvious. If the patent office were properly staffed with competent individuals these things would not happen. I mean anyone who has ever been shocked has discovered prior art for power tranfer over human skin.
In this case, it looks like this one was 2002 (the other option is an unlikely 1996), which is 2 years after MS filed their patent.
I'm lazy.. I hate having to use cal(1) to figure this out.
Free Software: Like love, it grows best when given away.
If this becomes a standard, there will have to eventually be upgrade paths... right? I keep imagining things like subdermal conduits for improved bandwidth or current-carrying capacity. Geeks flaunting their gear with brightly colored stripes running down their arms, just beneath the skin.
Isn't there SCADS of prior art on this topic How the hell does M$ think they are going to repatent Blue Tooth by simply stating all the devides are attached to a human body?
Of course, if M$ is really smart, they will patent applying mild electric shock to the human skin and GRAFTING these devices to the skin (using the skin as a comm-conduit of course) THEN they might actually have something....oh wait, prior art again....see The Borg legal departmemnt.
"We are Borg Legal, you will be litigated, resistance is futile, pleabargain is your only option" Come to think of it, isn't that how M$'s legal team works today?
"Curiosity killed the cat, but for a while I was a suspect."- Steven Wright
This article clearly calls for the Bill Gates Borg icon instead of the patent pending one.
Every stuck you finger in tha back of a T.V. arial socket to get a better reception. That's multiple modulated frequencies. If my video pickes up some information from that signal to start recording then I've selectivly activated a device.
In the audable range, I've used myself as a very noisy conductor for hi-fi equipment before, maybe I had a pizeo attached.
thank God the internet isn't a human right.
IMAO becouse IANAL some of this may not apply.
Skin networking research at MIT
The diffrence between MITs prior art and Microsofts patent is the power distrabution.
But.. DU.. the data is electrical... power distrabution is an implied part of that.
Any time you have a reliable electrical signal you have a power source.
Basicly Microsofts patent is a minnor and obveous modification of an existing patent and as I understand it patenting the obveous is not permitted.
I don't actually exist.
Well I've thought of this for years, and also I've had some ideas including inserting small heat-devices near veins (inside body) to make the blood transport heat through the body.
AND I've talked to others that have somewhat thought of similar ideas. I think this patent is just another nail in the coffin for the U.S. Patents.
Excuse me for being arrogant, but you Americans should really start looking into what's happening.
"Well, detective, the coroner's report cited the cause of death as a Blue Skin Of Death."
There's gonna be some great Law and Order episodes from this one.
What if this weren't a hypothetical question?
There are two reasons I can think of that this sort of system wouldn't be ideal: 1) I don't want to let MS run electricity through my body and 2) it would be far easier to sync all my devices with a wireless network, even if I had to do something to activate the syncing. Besides, if this patent is in the clear, it will likely be expired before anything significant has been done with it.
Hey, I heard of BAN (Body Area Networks) years ago! The US patent office seems to be lame retards that doesn't check whether someone has done this before. I can't recollect who did the experiments but read an article about 5 years ago of a computer worn in the shoes drawing power from movement (and maybe foul air =) ). When people shaking hands their computers swapped electronic businesscards. So after a day of shaking hands on meetings, fairs etc you could get a list of whom they were and everything.
How the heck can you get a patent on something that is already out there?
Why don't we file a patent for "sending information through variations in airpressure" (also knows as talking)?
Can't remeber whether it was PopSci, SciAm or BYTE
but 10-15 yrs ago I remember an article about ibm
researchers doing business card and phone number
info between people using a handshake, or
having several peopole's devices 'synched' at once
using a banister / handrail.
Knowing IBM i'm pretty sure they paid a visit
to the patent office.
Firefox &
several years ago ibm showed(patented?) a system where suits at a conference could exchange electronic business cards by touching hands :-)
IBM has done this sort of research many years ago. Knowing how IBM is on the ball with patent law, I doubt they didnt patent this before.
http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/user/pan/pan.html
see for yourself, this type of thing is old hat.