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Stargate Atlantis Tomorrow

BadDream writes "I read an old slashdot article about Stargate Atlantis comming this summer. Well its summer, and guess what starts this friday." You can also enter to win a walk-on role on SG1, but I call first dibs, no cuts.

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  1. hmph. by Mukaikubo · · Score: 3, Funny

    The only good thing is that since Farscape's a miniseries now, it can't be pushed back an hour to make room for back to back episodes of Stargate every freaking week.

    Not that I'm bitter.

    1. Re:hmph. by JaffaKREE · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Farscape had a loyal following.

      Stargate has a huge, insanely loyal following. It deserves it. I didn't discover SG1 until sometime in season 5. Once I got the dvds, I could not stop watching them. SG does such an incredible job of building upon previous storylines, it's like one continuous movie. Some of the episodes, like 'Window of Opportunity' (The time ripple), 'Upgrades' (The super-arm bands), 'Jolinar's memories'/'The Devil you know' (Sokar) are so damn good, and really funny.

      In an interview with the writers on the Stargate documentary (the one they aired before season 7 premiered), one of the writers said something to the effect of "Stargate is actually a comedy, we've just managed to keep it a secret for 7 years". It really is funnier than any given sitcom. Whether that reflects greatly on the SG1 staff or just makes the recycled sitcom writers look even worse is up to you.

    2. Re:hmph. by daoine · · Score: 5, Funny
      Some of the episodes, like 'Window of Opportunity' (The time ripple), 'Upgrades' (The super-arm bands), 'Jolinar's memories'/'The Devil you know' (Sokar) are so damn good, and really funny.

      Indeed. [/Teal'C]

    3. Re:hmph. by Mukaikubo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Bigger? Without dispute. More loyal? No objective way to tell unless some mental-defective suits try to cancel *your* show. Then we'd be able to compare fanbase loyalties with some kind of accuracy.

    4. Re:hmph. by avgjoe62 · · Score: 4, Funny
      One of the best thing about Stargate is that haven't had to resort to over sexual themes to achieve this success!

      Whaddya mean, "sexual themes"? It's not like any other science fiction franchise has had to resort to coed back rubs, nubile aliens in skintight uniforms, lesbian kisses, sex with androids or women dressed in tinfoil to keep an audience....

      Oh.. wait. Never mind...

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    5. Re:hmph. by Jerf · · Score: 4, Informative

      They have "tried" cancelling it. They already weren't going to do this season, but pretty much had to.

      Also, did you even see the fan effort to bring back Daniel? That was just for one character.

      Yes, the test of loyalty has come and gone; SG-1 passes.

    6. Re:hmph. by JAD+lifter · · Score: 3, Insightful


      haven't had to resort to over sexual themes to achieve this success!

      Just curious, what is wrong with over sexual themes? Lexx is one of my favorite SF shows ever and it is just one big over sexual theme. I also tend to enjoy classic Star Trek more than the newer ones just because all the classic episodes had all kinds of hoochie girls in ultra short skirts while all of the newer Star Treks are just way to god damn politically correct.

    7. Re:hmph. by JWSmythe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Get a TiVo. :) I had mine recording Stargate from three different stations (two local, and the SciFi channel). I've seen every episode at least once now. I actually told it to stop recording until this new season started, it was really boring watching the first two seconds, saying "seen it", and deleting it.

      I guess that's a good and bad point of TiVo, especially with DirecTV. You can't miss a show, because it'll always record it. I already have it set to keep the Atlantis shows. I won't be rushing home on Friday to see it, it'll be patiently waiting for me when I sit down on the couch. I can have it recording two shows, and be catching one that I missed at the same time. :)

      Unfortunately, the girlfriend's daughter has figured out the magic too, so I get a bunch of daytime soaps and teen shows on there too.

      I think Stargate has such an insane following because the cast could be real people. I'd kinda expect any of the SGC people to be my neighbors, and they reinforce that idea with the real-world scenes, like at the houses.. They're living out a fantasy of many. Visiting far distant (and impossible) places, going through exciting adventures, and playing with nifty technology. Oh ya, and big guns. Can't forget big guns.

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  2. Win a chance to be on an episode by Cat_Byte · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh man that commercial for winning the chance where that guy walked up to audition then ran for the stargate & was tackled by security had me rolling. He stole my idea!

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    1. Re:Win a chance to be on an episode by locr1an · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've been trying for 3 freaking days to enter for a chance to be on the episode,but everytime I try to "click here to register now," it says that "This service is temporarily unavailable while we upgrade to serve you better." 3 days is NOT temporary. And now it's been Slashdotted?!?!? Thanks a lot :|

    2. Re:Win a chance to be on an episode by RobertB-DC · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Oh man that commercial for winning the chance where that guy walked up to audition then ran for the stargate & was tackled by security had me rolling. He stole my idea!

      It had me thinking of an Ask Slashdot question: what would you do if you won the Stargate walk-on drawing? Obviously, they're not giving some random fanboy/girl off the street a talking part, but is there something you could do to make the director's job easier? Keep your mouth shut, or be knowledgable about the show and its premise? Walk on, walk off, say goodbye... or be noticable in the scene? What could a fan of the show, given the opportunity to be ON the show, do to make the show better?

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    3. Re:Win a chance to be on an episode by magarity · · Score: 2, Informative

      what would you do if you won the Stargate walk-on drawing? Obviously, they're not giving some random fanboy/girl off the street a talking part

      Yes, they are. All the filler people just standing/walking around in the background cost too much if they're all 'real' actors who have to get paid union scale. Extras are just people off the streets who have spare time, from the acting equivalent of temp worker agencies, contest winners, non-actor friends of the regular actors, etc, etc..

      but is there something you could do to make the director's job easier?

      Yeah, don't bother him/her. Do just walk or sit where the set manager tells you and whatever happens, do NOT mug at the camera.

    4. Re:Win a chance to be on an episode by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Could always turn the fat geek who can't act into a stupid alien who can't communicate.

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    5. Re:Win a chance to be on an episode by phek · · Score: 4, Informative

      Extra's arent just people off the street (even the ones who just walk accross the screen 100 feet in the background). They're all a bunch of aspiring actors and most of them are totally nuts. Non-union extras get payed $10/hr usually for 10 - 14 hour days, plus the benifit of some really good food. Like I was saying, it's mostly a bunch of crazy people who come from other states wanting to be famous. Well its those kind of people and ex-cons who can't get a regular job. To be an extra you need to sign up with a casting agency which usually costs about $20, central casting being the largest agency. Then once signed up you call their automated line which has a bunch of casting director's giving a description of the type of extra's they're looking for for tommorows shoot.

    6. Re:Win a chance to be on an episode by king-manic · · Score: 2, Informative

      what would you do if you won the Stargate walk-on drawing? Obviously, they're not giving some random fanboy/girl off the street a talking part

      Yes, they are. All the filler people just standing/walking around in the background cost too much if they're all 'real' actors who have to get paid union scale. Extras are just people off the streets who have spare time, from the acting equivalent of temp worker agencies, contest winners, non-actor friends of the regular actors, etc, etc..


      Actualyl most extras don't get any lines. The guild specifies talking part get paid more. so extras are ussually background noise. So he was correct. No talking part.

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  3. Stargate rules by SeanTobin · · Score: 5, Funny
    There are a few rules when it comes to the Stargate. I thought everyone understood them; however it appears that not everyone got the memo. So, please follow this simple list of things not to do with the Stargate:
    • Do not attempt to travel through the path of a solar flare.
    • Error messages are there for a reason. Do not override them.
    • Do not hit golf balls through the Stargate.
    • Do not contact the Guinness book of world records about your 45-lightyear drive afterwards.
    • Do not place stuffed aliens on the MALP.
    • Do not invite the goa'uld over for 'tea.'
    • Do not place a fifth finger slot in the handprint scanner.
    • Even if you are the last person through, do not spit while in the wormhole.
    • Absolutely under no circumstances should you ever slashdot the Stargate.
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    1. Re:Stargate rules by scharkalvin · · Score: 4, Funny

      OH and STAND BACK from the 'gate when the
      wormhole opens!

    2. Re:Stargate rules by ePhil_One · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Do not hit golf balls through the Stargate.

      Ah, one of my favorite episodes ever. I'm a little disappointed that they never used Jack O'Neill's and Teal'c knowledge of the ancient language again. They reached the point that they knew it better than Danny boy, after all, since they were effectively the ones who translated the inscriptions.

      I've been patiently waiting for Mr. Jackson to start struggling with a translation and Jack walk up and say "No, that's 'keep your arms and legs inside the tram car while gating'" then look over to Teal'c for his confirmation, where he'd get the little head nod and "indeed."

      But thats just me :^D

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    3. Re:Stargate rules by crazyaxemaniac · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They didn't really know the ancient language. They just kept telling Daniel what he had figured out last time they went through the loop.

    4. Re:Stargate rules by ePhil_One · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I don't think they *could* use their knowledge because it was lost. Once the time loop was stopped, it was as if it never happened.

      No, this very specifically is not what happened. The Tokra made a comment becoming concerned that they could not reach Earth, and were becoming concerned enough that they almost sent a ship to investigate. So Earth and everywhere else involved "snapped back" to the present. It was the download knowledge of the Ancients that was erased from Jack's brain; this was learned naturally.

      Mostly I just love how the series blindly ignores these paradoxes with a wave of the hand, and occasionally a wink. We got more entertaining things to do that come up with midiclorian theories. Stuff just is.

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    5. Re:Stargate rules by Eowaennor · · Score: 2, Informative
      In fact I beleive Teal'c and Oneill did not lose this knowledge. At the end of the mentioned episode Daniel realized that the two could have done anything at all during the period of time that they were trapped in the time loop. When he mentions this to Oneil, Jack looks at Carter and smiles...

      I think that is sufficient evidence that they knew what they did.

      As for not using that knowledge about the ancient language... who knows, ask the writers =P

    6. Re:Stargate rules by Damek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They've probably forgotten much of it by now. I mean, they were just learning enough to tackle that specific problem, and assuming they're like me, they probably just don't have a head for languages. I did OK in French in high school, but if you don't practice it and keep it up, epsecially when it took great effort to do well in the first place, you quickly lose it.

      But just as I still recognize a little French here and there from time to time, I would expect them to say something once or twice, like recognize a word here and there...

    7. Re:Stargate rules by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny
      Golfballs? What happens if you take a whizz through the Stargate? "Watch me write my name on another planet!"

      "That would be bad", as Egon might say?

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    8. Re:Stargate rules by Eudial · · Score: 3, Funny
      Additional rules for tourists:

      • Do not feed or pet the Guo'uld and the Jaffa
      • Keep your arms and legs inside of the wormhole at all times
      • Do not eat icecream, hotdogs or other messy food while in the wormhole
      • In case of a fire, please remain calm and follow the emergency exit signs on the worm hole walls
      • Do not create a feedback loop in your naquadah reactor while in the facility
      • Do not stick pointy objects in the power outlets
      • Always exit the wormhole at the same planet as the rest of your tour group
      • The DHD is not a toy. Keep your kids away from it and do not spill icecream on it
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    9. Re:Stargate rules by Jerf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm going to go with crazyaxemaniac here; you can't learn a language just by doing one translation. Even the first time I saw it, I knew that when Jack corrects Daniel, he was just shortcircuiting to a decision Daniel eventually came too; odds are Jack heard it a couple of times before remembering.

      SG-1 does a pretty good job of this overall. It's not perfect (most recent pet peeve: A planet rich in neutronium... yeah, sure!), but only a masochist still expects perfection from a TV series. It does as well as or better than can be expected.

      Evidence: I frequently disagree with people's nitpicks, even the "scientific" ones. The Stargate writers actually know more science (even the real stuff!) than many of their fans! This is in stark contrast to Star Trek, the Golden Standard of Shittiness, which actually and literally destroys and inhibits scientific understanding. (If you think Star Trek is at all realistic, you don't know anything about science.)

    10. Re:Stargate rules by ePhil_One · · Score: 2, Informative
      (If you think Star Trek is at all realistic, you don't know anything about science.)

      First, I don't think any Sci Fi show is realistic, that wasn't my point. A Sci-Fi show establishes its universe; Magic is real, communism works, Reagan caused the fall of the Soviet Union, whatever. Once it establishes this "reality", it should try to remain consistent with it. I don't care that Zat guns stun with one shot, kill with two, and make things disappear with three. Thems the rules, don't bore me with how Steinberg-Theta energy disrupts the milecular bonds of the atoms without generating any heat. Star Trek was doing well if it held to its rules, realistic or not, through a single episode.

      I just think it would be fun to include this ability in a show. The character Col. Jack O'Neill isn't dumb, quite the opposite. Given his background in special ops (I even choose to overlook the fact that the Air Force doesn't really have a Special Ops group like the SEALS), he likely already knows a few other languages. Teal'c definately knows at least two. (I also overlook the fact that humans on other planets except one all speak english (that exception being the now eradicated Egypt-world of the original movie

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    11. Re:Stargate rules by JWSmythe · · Score: 3, Informative
      I just think it would be fun to include this ability in a show. The character Col. Jack O'Neill isn't dumb, quite the opposite. Given his background in special ops (I even choose to overlook the fact that the Air Force doesn't really have a Special Ops group like the SEALS), he likely already knows a few other languages. Teal'c definately knows at least two.


      Most officers aren't exactly stupid.. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I believe you must have a bachlors degree to get any sort of officer rank, no matter how talented you may be. Being dumb, and playing dumb are two different things. For example, walk into my office when I don't want to cooperate and ask me anything. I may have forgotten even my own name. Sometimes it's safer to be like that. Dumb people don't know anything and aren't worth bothering for information. Not so smart people get bothered all the time. Playing dumb has helped me out of plenty of situations. I don't know anything unless I want to.

      Ok, so O'Neill doesn't have a grasp of astrophysics, (or plays like he doesn't). No one's going to ask him to do anything like fix a DHD. But he is responsible for being a military leader, so he does that effectively. You've never seen him trying to figure out which end is the working end of a P90.

      The show would be pretty boring if every alien spoke a different language. Every conversation would be through Jackson, and that'd get old *REALLY* quick. Well, it would have been harder for that year that he was dead too.

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  4. Re:Submission practices by jayhawk88 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not closing your HTML tags properly might help too.

  5. SG-1 Continuity? by angrist · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've never gotten into watching SG-1 (although it comes highly recomended) but have meant to.

    This looks like a great place to pick up the series, but i have to ask all you SG-1 fans... how friendly do you think Atlantis will be towards new viewers?

    First post? ::crosses fingers::

    1. Re:SG-1 Continuity? by Vaevictis666 · · Score: 5, Informative
      Very friendly, actually.

      From what I know, during the premier they get off to Atlantis, and then goof up and get themselves stuck there - it's mostly autonomous from the original show. I do recommend you hunt down the Stargate Atlantis Lowdown on bittorrent or something (it aired last week) that should bring you up to speed on what's happening with the main Stargate storyline and universe. They're spending their time in another galaxy, no Gua'uld, new bad guys, new stuff going down. Should be fun :)

      One of the things the writers mention is that for it to work as simultaneous shows, the one thing they _don't_ want to be doing often is invite the crew from show B to save the guys on show A. Regardless which show is A and which is B.

    2. Re:SG-1 Continuity? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      From what I know, during the premier they get off to Atlantis, and then goof up and get themselves stuck there - it's mostly autonomous from the original show.

      I don't think that's right. I've seen previews where Doctor Weir is telling the troops that they're not sure if they can get back, but they're going to find new technologies to defend Earth. I think the idea is that SGC will occasionally open a wormhole and they'll exchange data via radio.

    3. Re:SG-1 Continuity? by raygundan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I started watching the old episodes in order via Netflix after I gave in to the repeated recommendations my friends gave it.

      I must say that I MUCH prefer this method of watching/paying for TV. Screw commercials and schedules-- I want everything on my own terms, in high quality, from now on. Now if only they'd start doing releases on the same day as the show first runs or the movie opens, I'd be very happy.

      But I digress. Netflix, for $20/month, will get you through the first six seasons (they don't have the seventh yet, but i assume they will) pretty quick.

    4. Re:SG-1 Continuity? by bigbigbison · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You could probably watch any single episode of SG-1 and figure out 90% of what is going on. There is continuity but it is more in terms of reoccuring characters where there are a few people who keep returning as guest stars, but the plots are definitly on the side of action so it is not generally that confusing. There is the ocasionally plot heavy show, but they generally do a "last time on Stargate" where they show you all the relevent storylines even if they build on things that happened several episodes ago.

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    5. Re:SG-1 Continuity? by nes11 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "From what I know, during the premier they get off to Atlantis, and then goof up and get themselves stuck there"

      actually, the problem is that it takes so much energy to get them from earth to the new gate, that they have no idea whether the other gate will support it coming back the other way.

    6. Re:SG-1 Continuity? by kjh1 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      It's too bad that they (the shows' producers/writers) have already stated that they don't want too much or any intermingling of plots and characters between shows. I usually find that really interesting. It makes it seem like the show is really part of a bigger picture. I think it's something audiences in general like as well. After all, it's done all the time.

      Someone else made the comment that you can figure out 90% of what's going on just by watching one show. I disagree. I got into SG-1 in about the 4th season, and if I didn't know someone who had been watching it all along, it would have taken me significantly more time to get up to speed. That's another thing that I find compelling about the show - there *is* a lot of 'backstory' that drives each episode. They are all part of a much larger story arc. Think Bablyon 5.

      Unless I got it mixed up, I think they may have goofed already: Why is Dr Weir involved with the Atlantis program when she said in this season's 1st episode of SG-1 that she was going to be an ambassador of sorts among all the nations that now know about the Stargate and the various aliens?

      Other than that, I'm really looking forward to this new show. Hopefully, double the workload for this group of writers/producers/etc. won't result in half the quality that has been present in SG-1 so far.

    7. Re:SG-1 Continuity? by meta-monkey · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Eh. If I were you I'd either get the torrents for SG-1, or you can catch the re-runs on Sci-Fi. They have like a four hour marathon every Monday night. The show is pretty good...I'd say probably the best sci-fi on TV right now.

      I'm worried that I'm not going to like Atlantis, though. One of the things I liked about SG-1 was the characters seemed much more "real." Take a look at the Atlantis cast and they all look like Hollywood pretty boys (and girls). On SG-1, well, there's Richard Dean Anderson, who looks pretty much like a normal guy. His character jokes around too much for a Colonel in the Air Force (B. General, now, actually). Before they made him start working out and cut his hair, Michael Shanks did look like a befuddled scientist. Amanda Tapping is cute, but not exactly a starlet. Chris Judge looks big and mean, and has a misshapen head (Don't tell him I said that!). The dude who plays General Hammond is probably one of the best charicatures of career military on TV.

      Now flash foward to Atlantis. The leader is a slender civilian woman with high cheekbones. The military commander has spiked hair, and looks like he's just about old enough to have finished basic. Then there's the Atlantean chick who looks like a bit character from Xena: Warrior Princess. It just seems fake... It reminds of one of the best episodes of SG-1, in which Jack (Anderson's character) served "undercover" as a technical adviser on a TV show that seemed too similar to the real Stargate project so he could find out what was going on. They called the fake show "Wormhole Xtreme!" and it was loaded with bad acting, casting, cheap sets, and cliches. I'm afraid Atlantis is going to be the real Wormhole Xtreme!

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    8. Re:SG-1 Continuity? by Wolfrider · · Score: 3, Interesting

      --Hmm, sounds a lot like ST:Voyager. I have mixed feelings about this...

      --To me, what makes SG1 work:
      Richard Anderson (O'Neill)
      Amanda Tapping (Samantha Carter)

      (To a lesser extent)

      The hot doctor - Teryl Rothery (Doc Frasier is now dead, unforch)
      Teal'c
      Dr. Daniel Jackson (Michael Shanks)
      General Hammond (Don S. Davis)

      --Without *any* of the "original crew" (Hey, how about bringing Kurt Russell or French Stewart into Atlantis?) signing on, it's a 50/50 chance the show will struggle. IIRC, they had to bring Michael Dorn (Worf) onto DS9 before the ratings started to climb back up.

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    9. Re:SG-1 Continuity? by crazyaxemaniac · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Atlantis has a whole new cast and takes place in an entirely different galaxy than SG-1. I imagine it should be fairly easy to pick up.

      SG-1 is pretty episodic in comparison to other series like Deep Space Nine or Babylon 5. Since it is more comedy than drama it's not like you don't enjoy watching an episode without background information.

    10. Re:SG-1 Continuity? by NoodleSlayer · · Score: 3, Informative
      Well as seen in previous episodes of SG-1 it takes a lot more power to create a wormhole to another galaxy then they have readily available at the SGC. The one time they did it, and I feel like such a dork for knowing this, was in the episode "The Fifth Race" where O'Neill had the Ancient's Library uploaded into his mind. He created a device, that was subsequently destroyed upon use, that allowed the gate to dial up one of the Asgard worlds.

      So as they don't have the power readily available in the Pegasus Galaxy to be able to get a wormhole back to Earth they're stuck, for the time being.

      If you want to find out more information you can go to GateWorld and start reading their spoilers. The Episodes, "The Fifth Race", "Ascension", "Meridian", "Frozen", "Maternal Instinct" and "Absolute Power" should give you a rough idea, although not necesarily in that order. I'm sure I left out a couple too.

    11. Re:SG-1 Continuity? by justanyone · · Score: 4, Insightful


      The role of Samantha Carter (played by Amanda Tapping) is a great boost to women. WE NAMED OUR DAUGHTER 'CARTER' AFTER HER (and the president).

      I recognize that they give Carter too many responsibilities (being uber-brilliant and super-soldier). My wife commented that they got rid of the Dr. Janet Frasier (played by Teryl Rothery) to make sure the show wasn't too heavy with women in top positions, that would be threatening.

      I doubt my wife is correct, but she makes a good point. Are they going to replace and add characters to regain the male / female balance on this show?

      One of the PREMIER COOL things that shows like Stargate do, IMHO, is allow stodgey males (young and old) to VIEW women soldiers, and thus experience them as highly capable, rough-and-tumble, smart, and fallible human beings.

      Just seeing a woman in a role allows you to change your preconceptions of what roles people should be in. That goes for having a handicapped person (amputee, maybe) working in the SGC as a technician. The part would be small, in the background, but it would make a big difference in how people saw people with physical limitations.

      The original Star Trek put a black woman in a senior leadership position (Lieuntenant Uhura, communications officer, okay, it isn't a huge department, but it's important, and it's on the bridge). That redefined what was possible for black women both on TV and off.

      I hope Stargate continues to push boundaries and explore what we perceive as normal.

      Of course, they could just ignite a firestorm and introduce a Gua'ould named Jesus. Or another namd 'Moshe' (Moses). Or another named, 'Siddhartha'. Or 'Mohammed'. I would recommend they stay out of that territory, though, there'd be LOTS of pushback from their fanbase and zealots alike.

      -- Kevin J. Rice

    12. Re:SG-1 Continuity? by Binestar · · Score: 2, Informative

      He created a device, that was subsequently destroyed upon use, that allowed the gate to dial up one of the Asgard worlds.

      Wasn't destroyed, the SGC was just unable to ever getting it working again until later when they were contacted from another universe by Dr. Carter and one of the guys who was killed in the original episode.

      They brought it to the other universe and it was used to dial the Asgard to save the planet from Apophis.

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    13. Re:SG-1 Continuity? by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Of course, they could just ignite a firestorm and introduce a Gua'ould named Jesus. Or another namd 'Moshe' (Moses). Or another named, 'Siddhartha'. Or 'Mohammed'. I would recommend they stay out of that territory, though, there'd be LOTS of pushback from their fanbase and zealots alike.

      Personally, I'd like it if they did this. It'd make more sense that these religious figures were actually aliens than the superstitious BS that organized religions ask us to believe.

    14. Re:SG-1 Continuity? by Colymbosathon+ecplec · · Score: 2, Informative
      And sometimes they have a "clip show", like the time General Hammond was revealing the existence of the Stargate to some Earth representatives. That serves to both bring viewers up to date as well as make us sorry we missed something, yet you can come in any time, as a previous poster mentioned, and not be too lost.

      I didn't discover it until maybe the 4th or 5th season, and now I shall get the DVD's to see what I missed as it started out. IMO it is one of the best sci-fi/comedy/action shows on TV, even better than many films. I especially loved the episode where they were spoofing their own show, in the interest of credible denialability. As a bonus, my girlfriend even loves the show.

    15. Re:SG-1 Continuity? by ebassi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      IIRC, they had to bring Michael Dorn (Worf) onto DS9 before the ratings started to climb back up.

      Nope: the authors of DS9 had to write the whole super-plot of the Dominion Wars, to which Worf was a nice (and logical) addendum, before the ratings started to climb back up.

      You might go as far as saying that they had to actually write good stories, in order to get good ratings, but that would be hardly a news (even though having good stories does not mean having the show renewd for another year - see Futurama and Firefly).

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      You can save space. Or you can save time. Don't ever count on saving both at once. -- First Law of Algorithmic Analisys
    16. Re:SG-1 Continuity? by meta-monkey · · Score: 4, Informative

      Of course, they could just ignite a firestorm and introduce a Gua'ould named Jesus. Or another namd 'Moshe' (Moses). Or another named, 'Siddhartha'. Or 'Mohammed'.

      The problem is that it wouldn't work in terms of the story. The mythologies the Gau'ould pretended to be are ancient...like 3000 B.C. and earlier. In the movie, Ra first came to the Egyptians in 8000B.C. This is all far back enough in time, with few written records, that the acts of these "gods" could be written off to superstitions and what not. That's really not the case with Jesus and Mohammed, who existed only 2000 (or 1400) years ago. I think I've got that right...Mohammed was around in 600AD, right? There are too many written records from those times, that the acts of the Gua'ould would be well-known.

      Anyway, I also don't think the stories would mesh well, either. I don't seem to recall any stories about Jesus killing people with a flick of his hand or commanding people worship him or be destroyed. If the Stargate writers did something like this, it would seem like a stretch and a gimmick, as the story of Jesus is nothing like the stories of the angry, vengeful gods of ancient mythologies.

      --
      We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
    17. Re:SG-1 Continuity? by orkysoft · · Score: 2, Informative

      They had an episode with a mediaeval village and an Unas who pretended to be the devil and demanded sacrifices.

      I think the writers handled that pretty well. Those people were abducted by a ship (people claim that happens all the time!), and of course no Goa'uld could play a good-aligned god, so it chose to play his nemesis, the devil.

      And of course the sets, they're always very good. Especially that 1940s planet with all the old-fashioned lab equipment, that was really good.

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      I suffer from attention surplus disorder.
  6. New Slashdot tag line? by mr_zorg · · Score: 3, Funny

    News for Nerds. Stuff that matters. Stuff that we told you about last week. Stuff that's exaggerated. Stuff that's on TV.

  7. This is what confused me... by HunterZero · · Score: 3, Funny

    I thought that SG1 was cancelled. Now, why would they cancel one show and then start up another show that will probably be the same, except with a new cast and no McGyver.

    I mean, I don't know about you, but without McGyver it just won't be the same.

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    1. Re:This is what confused me... by Omega1045 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Do you even watch the Sci-Fi channel? I don't think they have had a commercial break in the last 2 months where they haven't shown the SG1 Season Premiere commercial back-to-back with the Atlantis promo.

      Your nerd privileges have been revoked. You must now go hang out with the jocks.

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      Great ideas often receive violent opposition from mediocre minds. - Albert Einstein

    2. Re:This is what confused me... by Azrael+Newtype · · Score: 5, Informative
      I don't really know why this is considered funny. Well, the McGyver reference is almost certainly what did it, but if you watched Sci-Fi, you'd realize not only was it not cancelled as the new season started last Friday, but also 'McGyver' is back as a Brigadier General.

      So... seriously was the whole ignorance thing supposed to be funny, or was it just the belief that Richard Dean Anderson actually is McGyver (who I'd like to mention was extremely anti-gun, unlike Jack.)

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      I'm always right and I can prove it, because to the best of my knowledge, I've never been wrong.
    3. Re:This is what confused me... by justanyone · · Score: 4, Funny

      Your nerd privileges have been revoked. You must now go hang out with the jocks.

      It's not _that_ bad. He should just have to hang out with the Band geeks, and learn their lingo before returning.
      • Ombrurshure
      • 8th position trombone
      • 26-inch step
      • split reed
      • 7th-grade oboe
      • bassoon strap
      • 2nd chair blues
      • tight embrasure
      After all, the jocks don't respect nerds, but band geeks cross many high school subcultures.

      If the writers at Sci-Fi's Stargate shows understood their target audiences, they would feature many references to the above and other in-jokes from high school subcultures that could be dropped in to make for greater entertainment value.
  8. ...and last but certainly not least... by MoxCamel · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...do not taunt happy stargate.

  9. Sorry... by HotNeedleOfInquiry · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'll be at I, Robot

    --
    "Eve of Destruction", it's not just for old hippies anymore...
  10. Re:That link has flash by Saxton · · Score: 5, Informative

    Avoiding the flash...Check out this related article at Sci Fi Wire: Atlantis Forges Own Identity and another at the Florida Sun-Sentinel: Stargate SG-1 spinoff tinkers with the tale of the lost continent in a planet far, far away.

    This doesn't look very promising, imho.

    -s4xton

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  11. Re:Correction by missing000 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is that better? I swear I closed the tag, but accidents happen to everyone.

    Accidents happen? Nope. Not to grammar nazi's :)

  12. a walk on role? by Savatte · · Score: 3, Funny

    so if you win this contest, you get a walk-on role. What's the consolation prize, a staring role?

    thank you, ill be here all week. don't forget to tip your waitress

    1. Re:a walk on role? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      so if you win this contest, you get a walk-on role. What's the consolation prize, a staring role?

      staring - To look directly and fixedly, often with a wide-eyed gaze

      starring - To play the leading role in a theatrical or film production

      So yeah, a staring role would probably be what you get as a consolation prize. You and everyone watching at home.

    2. Re:a walk on role? by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Given that Richard Dean Anderson has now fallen into a second series where he's trapped by a stereotyped character (although this time exactly the opposite character he played before- the guns issue being the most obvious, and apparently from his interview in "From Stargate To Atlantis", he's personally a lot more like McGyver and a lot less like Jack O'Neil); the staring role would be a death sentence to an emerging career. In fact, I think it has to Amanda's.

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      SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
  13. FLASH! Firefox + FlashBlock prevent Slashdotting by cuzality · · Score: 5, Informative


    Check out FlashBlock, an extension for Firefox which "[a]dds an XBL binding to Shockwave Flash object tags that replaces them with a button you must click in order to play the animation. Quite nice for restoring sanity to your browsing session."

    Indeed.

  14. Now I know what I will be Torrenting on Saturday. by guidryp · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well that and some TDF coverage. Go Lance!

    Is there a TVAA?

  15. I'm bummed dudes by confused+one · · Score: 5, Funny
    looks like my wife's going into labor now; and, I'm gonna miss the premiers for both Stargate Atlantis and I, Robot.

    *looks around* What am I doing still posting on /.

    *grabs keys*

    1. Re:I'm bummed dudes by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sheesh, dude, don't they have taxis where you live. *rolls eyes*

    2. Re:I'm bummed dudes by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 4, Funny

      Seriously! I mean, she's probably going to be in labor for hours and hours. While she's busy in the birthing room screaming in agony, go out in the lounge and watch some SG-1!

      Also, why doesn't this guy have a laptop with wifi?

      Otherwise, you'll be in there holding her hand and she'll be all like "I can't believe you made me have this f*ing baby, you bastard!". Then there's the squeezing your hand until it looks like a turnip.

      Just imagine how happy his wife will be when she's like "Honey, it's a girl!" and he responds with "Honey, I got a +5 funny!!!"

      --
      Yes Francis, the world has gone crazy.
    3. Re:I'm bummed dudes by ediron2 · · Score: 3, Funny
      looks like my wife's going into labor now; and, I'm gonna miss the premiers for both Stargate Atlantis and I, Robot.
      *looks around* What am I doing still posting on /.
      *grabs keys*
      I've got 2 kids, age 4 and 2. Trust me, you're gonna miss more than just the premiers. In fact, your movie-theater days are about to be significantly altered for several years. Not curtailed (unless something bad like 'Garfield' pushes you to suicide midmovie). But definitely fewer, and with many compromises. Many compromises. In fact, let's all say it together... "I for one welcome my new stinky, screaming, drooling 2-foot overlord."

      BTW, 'Netflix' is your friend. And any gaming habits can continue only if you're wearing headphones. If you're ambitious, you'll learn to rock the baby with one foot while fragging aliens at 3am.

      The good news is that if you're an attentive dad, you're gonna be busy and having enough fun that you won't big-M *MISS* these shows. You just won't see them anytime soon.

      (Heh... Call her a cab... I'm still laughing about that reply. While you're at it, call and reserve yourself a bed at the morgue).

      Obligatory Lame OT buster: Did I mention Stargate on DVD has some cool supporting material? Lots and LOTS of commentary, featurettes, etc.

    4. Re:I'm bummed dudes by damn_hippy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What are you doing leaving the house? Don't they have midwives where you live?

      While your wife is in labour, go to amazon and order "Immaculate Deception", read it while she is recovering from her cesarean (up to 40% rate in some hospitals) and wonder why you ever went to the hospital in the first place.

      That book changed my whole outlook on pregnancy and birth in America, and opened my eyes to just how backwards this country is in that respect.

      Sorry to sound preachy.. my wife has had all 3 of our children at home with a midwife and I just cannot see any other way to do it.

  16. Re:Correction by VoidWraith · · Score: 3, Funny

    Not to grammar nazi's

    Now, since you're just begging to be grammatically corrected, the word should be "Nazis." Its a proper noun, and is plural, not possessive. =P (And yeah, you also forgot a period.) All in good fun =)

  17. And me without my own uniform by gelfling · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://www.thegateroom.com/forsale.shtml

    Damn, they're surely gonna kick me out of the club now.

    1. Re:And me without my own uniform by ronaldb64 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Who cares about the uniform, where can I buy a gate???

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      There's no place like 127.0.0.1
  18. Re:Correction by awhelan · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's "nazis", "nazi's" is posessive.
    As in my personal opinion: Sheesh I can't stand you damn grammer nazis!

  19. Re:Submission practices by PapaBoojum · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not closing your HTML tags properly might help too.

    You must be using Firefox, as I've heard it fails at rendering invalid HTML.

  20. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  21. Re:SciFi's Battlestar Galactica by rlp · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Galactica series starts next January. I assume that they will re-broadcast the pilot immediately prior to the series start. Just fire up your VCR or DVR then.

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    [Insert pithy quote here]
  22. Is it just me... by Cyno01 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Or do the Wraiths (the new baddies) all look like Marilyn Manson?

    --
    "Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
    1. Re:Is it just me... by tb3 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Can you think of something scarier?

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    2. Re:Is it just me... by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 3, Funny

      Developers! Developers! Developers!

  23. Re:Boycott Stargate... by satoshi1 · · Score: 2, Informative

    You do know that they're bringing FarScape back, right? If you were watching the season premiere of StarGate SG-1 last Friday, you'd have seen the commercial for Farscape. So nyah.

  24. You ruined the whole sries for me! by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I never really watched McGyver when it was on, so I didn't really remember the actor - I have heard all of the jokes about nuclear bombs from bubble gum and such, and use some of them from time to time (albeit infrequently). Up until now I watch SG1 on and off and tend to enjoy it (until now). Everytime I watch it, I'm gonna expect O'neal to create a wormhole out of a pack of cigarettes or something otherwise silly.

    1. Re:You ruined the whole sries for me! by eboot · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually if you worked on the series writing team as I did you would know that a theory on light magnification used in weaponary was posted in an important science journal commented that 'under the right circumstances a ray of light from the sun could in fact cause extreme heat through the application of said ray to metal in a bullet shaped object from a great distance' they planned to use it to detonate bombs without risking bomb crews lives. Unfortunately it was obviously highly impratical and was only successfully achieved once under lab conditions and once on the television show 'McGuyver'. oh by the way IANAWFMcG Cool huh?

      --
      Two tears in a bucket. Motherfuck it.
  25. Feh! by Art_XIV · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I still want Crusade back. :(

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    The only thing that we learn from history is that nobody learns anything from history.
  26. Re:So? by pico303 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What's the compelling reason to watch anything on television? It's merely a form of entertainment you might enjoy.

    I've never found any compelling reason to watch movies or television, aside from entertainment value. Even informational programming, such as documentaries, is much more lightweight in content richness than a book on the subject.

  27. Spoiler! by Kredal · · Score: 3, Funny

    I hear the Lone Gunmen die in this episode!

    --
    Whoever stated that signature sizes should be limited to one hundred and twenty characters can just go ahead and kiss my
    1. Re:Spoiler! by ClosedSource · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, but they do ascend!

  28. Re:Love the commercials by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My wife and I are both SG-1 fans and when we saw that commercial we ended up laughing our asses off.

    I also liked the people who do the flips across the stage and carter and teal'c flip the pads over to show 10's.

    On a side note, did anybody else notice that in the "pumper" for "New Order" they stated that "Finally the replicators will be destroyed". Needless to say, not only did the replicators get away, but it looks as though they've become even more distructive since it looks as though they've become self aware. However, one thing that I've really liked is that SG-1 never fully puts a plot string to rest so they've got enough material for easily 10 spin offs.

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    Yes Francis, the world has gone crazy.
  29. Re:Correction by momerath2003 · · Score: 3, Funny

    grammer

    Grammar.

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  30. Forget the Goa'uld by T-Kir · · Score: 2, Informative

    Do not invite the goa'uld over for 'tea.'

    Once you see the Pilot, I think you'll find that you ought not to invite the Wraith over for tea either... these pics might show you:

    Eating time.

    After eating (or whatever has happened to the poor bloke).

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    Are you local? There's nothing for you here!
  31. Re:Correction by Moloch666 · · Score: 2, Funny

    You forgot a period as well. ;)

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  32. I feel your pain by Damek · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd be bitter if my lovely Stargate were pushed back to make room for your Muppet show, so I understand.

    1. Re:I feel your pain by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

      "I'd be bitter if my lovely Stargate were pushed back to make room for your Muppet show, so I understand."

      I don't like Farscape, so I enjoy making fun of it to rile up the hardcore fans. Unfortunately, the common alternative is a dude with a bumpy head. So.. well shit, I wish my fav scifi shows had muppets for aliens, too.

      --
      "Derp de derp."
    2. Re:I feel your pain by tonejava · · Score: 2

      "I wish my fav scifi shows had muppets for aliens, too." Well Thor and the Asgaard in SG-1 aren't exactly real now are they? ;-)

    3. Re:I feel your pain by cardshark2001 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Make fun of Firefly (aka Gunsmoke in space)

      Hehe. Okay, you got me. I can't help but reply to this. I've been an avid science fiction reader for over 15 years. In my opinion, Firefly is easily the best science fiction that's ever been on tv, and it rivals anything that's ever been in cinema.

      The "western in space" thing is an unfortunate quote from Joss Whedon, the creator, that people like you have been taking him to task for ever since. Here's the thing: every science fiction show you can name is a western in space. The difference is, Firefly was more honest about it. They all have gunslinging, kidnapping, gang leaders, etc. Joss was smart enough to realize that and built a really original show.

      In terms of SF literature, there's not a whole lot I would call original in the show. In terms of tv SF, it breaks all kinds of new ground, for example in its depiction of the space scenes. There's no sound in space, objects have inertia. The science is nearly perfect, every time, and Joss doesn't assume you're dumb and need to have everything spelled out for you..

      For instance (SPOILER), the captain defeats a certain villian by standing on the hull of his ship and pushing him off course, so the villian can't spacewalk to his ship. No guns, no knife battle. And the great thing is, Joss didn't feel the need to explain the physics of the thing to us like we were idiots. He just assumes that we're smart.

      If you are an SF fan (especially SF lit), forget about the "western in space" canard, and watch it for yourself. There are only about 13 episodes, it won't kill you. You might just find that it's the show you've been looking for all these years.

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  33. Re:FLASH! Firefox + FlashBlock prevent Slashdottin by Mad+Marlin · · Score: 4, Informative
    enhancments like ads enlarging and taking over the whole screen like they do on weather.com? Flash is cool, but too easily abused.

    May I recommend Weather.gov? After all, you are paying for it even if you don't use it, and it is actually better too.

  34. Re:Boycott Stargate... by satoshi1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Interesting how people complain when something gets canned. Then, when it's brought back, they complain that it may not be as good as the original, without even watching it. Hey, mini-series or not, at least it's coming back for a while. Be happy for what they're giving you. They could've just done nothing.

  35. ST's Brannon and Braga sent through Stargate by IronChefMorimoto · · Score: 5, Funny

    In other news, the Star Trek series was saved as the infamous Brannon and Braga duo who have single-handedly butchered the ST universe were sent through the Stargate BACK to Earth WITHOUT a GDO code.

    The trip was actually an elaborate plan by a group of serious Star Trek fans -- fans who only wish that their franchise would have as much life again as the Stargate franchise appears to enjoy.

    Brannon and Braga were "invited" to the "set" of Stargate SG-1 under the pretense of a review of the show's innovative special effects. In reality, the Star Trek fans begged the Stargate crew to actually build a REAL Stargate and send the duo out to the far reaches of our known galaxy, where they met the REAL G'hould (sp?) enemy depicted in the show.

    According to reports from the set, the two reported back from the other side of the REAL working gate, pretty much screaming their asses off and begging to be sent back. After being ass-whipped by a lesser G'hould god named Lohr Atana (a.k.a. Frank the Destroyer), the Butchers of ST were sent back through the G'hould Stargate to Earth -- without a GDO.

    Had Brannon and Braga actually ever shown an ounce of consistency with some of their ST storylines, they would've remembered such key AND CONSISTENT plot elements as the GDO, the code, the iris, etc. and asked for a GDO transmitter before being sent through the Stargate.

    The last "communication" ST fans at the Stargate SG-1 set had with Brannon and Braga was the dull thud of their bodies slapping up against an improvised iris on the REAL Stargate. A few minutes later, the Stargate was reactivated, and Frank the Destroyer sent a handwritten note asking the crew to never send idiots like that to his domain again or suffer enslavement at the yada, yada, evil bad guy bullshit talk, yada.

    After the REAL Stargate was dismantled (at the request of SCI-FI CHANNEL lawyers insistent on not actually allowing Frank the Destroyer free access to Earth and our solar system), the cast and crew of Stargate SG-1 treated the elated ST fans to a catered party and autograph session.

    Plans are in the works to have the ST: Enterprise crew find a Stargate in the third season of the poorly rated show so they can travel back through time and save themselves from cancellation. Brad Wright, of Stargate fame, will direct the pilot episode of Stargate ST-1: Enterprise.

    Gay-ass pop music will NOT be used in the title sequence and credits of the revamped show. Some of the ST fans at the SG-1 set have vowed to send the guy that sings the current theme song through the REAL Stargate as well. They are negotiating rights for a legal transfer of liability for said Stargate with SCI-FI CHANNEL lawyers.

    IronChefMorimoto

  36. Re:Or by technomancerX · · Score: 3, Funny

    Galen gets sick of it and destroys Earth (and yes, he IS powerful enough, read the books).

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    .technomancer
  37. Sorry but it'll suck by g0bshiTe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Come on SG Atlantis bieng as good as the original. I think naught.

    And the villans, these wraith things. Are we really to believe these creatures who killed the ancients are stupid enough for a lesser lifeform (humans) to fool like what happens to teh Ghou'ld every week. Come on now. At least tehy were parasites.

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  38. Quick question.... by Fnkmaster · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Alright, I'm about to expose myself as a huge nerd.


    Was anybody else bothered by the fact that Dr. Elizabeth Weir was played at the end of the 7th season by a different actress? All the character development was done by Jessica Steen, who did a bang up job with a hard role to play, so much so that a lot of us were really looking forward to seeing her in SG:A. Now they bring in a replacement, Torri Higginson, who looks and acts nothing like Jessica Steen. I don't know the reasons behind it, but they should have cast somebody in the first place they were happy with and wanted the role. Having the actress swap created major cognitive dissonance for me watching the 8th season opener - from a purely aesthetic perspective, I could barely stand to watch Higginson, she didn't play the same character at all that Steen played.


    Anyway, I don't mean to sound like a fanboy bitch, I'm not a nutcase zealot about this stuff. I just think this issue was not handled well by the show producers. Maybe I am noticing it in particular because they usually handle these kinds of things so well on SG1 that it's one of the few sci-fi shows that I find easy to achieve suspension of disbelief with. Please, SG1 production team, don't do this to us again. I just hope going into SG:A that Higginson does a better job developing this character, or I don't know how I'll be able to watch the show.


    As it is, I'm desperately afraid that Teal'c with a fuzzy head and O'Neill in charge of SGC is going to fundamentally change the 8th season for the worse. Come on guys, remember what happened when you tried to kill off Michael Shanks? Did anybody like that season?


    Alright, now I've gotten this off my chest. I hope Season 8 is as good as SG1 has generally been and I hope that SG:A doesn't sully the name with a crappy spinoff.

    1. Re:Quick question.... by Fnkmaster · · Score: 2, Interesting
      For some reason, the aliens speaking English doesn't interfere with my ability to suspend disbelief with respect to the characters and story lines, which is what really matters to me. I'm a scientist by background, but it's sci-fi, it's not about absolutely realistic physics, linguistics, whatever. It's about suspending disbelief enough to relate to the characters and immerse yourself in the story.


      Basically, language is always a problem in science fiction - no way to totally eliminate it, and I think they've dealt reasonably well with it in SG-1. Of course, it's not realistic that the many humans taken from Earth several thousand years ago would speak English - they'd speak something derived from whatever the source language of the human stock they came from. Many of the other alien races are much more advanced anyway, and presumably either learn our language easily (like the Gou'ould) or use their own translation devices.


      But then, if they dealt with this issue realistically, the whole show would be about learning the aliens' languages before interacting with them. Shows like Star Trek dealt with this explicitly by having "universal translator" devices. *shrug*, it's hard to tell a good story in one hour episodes involving space/planetary exploration without giving this issue short shrift.

  39. Re:SciFi's Battlestar Galactica by PortWineBoy · · Score: 2, Informative

    The DVD is to be released in November of this year according to www.bsg2003.com

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  40. Biased review by LionMage · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I read the Sun-Sentinel article you linked to, and it's really a very slanted piece written by someone who obviously does not appreciate Science Fiction in general, and Stargate in specific. Here are some choice quotes:

    The success of Stargate SG-1 has always been a head-scratcher. Really, there's little difference in storytelling or production quality between this show and, say, First Wave, Forever Knight, The PSI Factor, Andromeda or any of the other competent, made-in-Canada mediocrities that fill up the cable dial.

    There's very little difference in storytelling or production quality between SG1 and crap like Andromeda? I beg to differ. SG1 has a bigger budget than a lot of other made-for-cable properties. It also got its start on Showtime, so they had a good seed to start with -- freedom to do storylines that you couldn't get away with on basic cable channels, money to make good sets and props, etc. SG1 also has a lot of very competent people writing for it, and does a much better job of preserving continuity than even shows like Star Trek: The Next Generation and its follow-ons.

    Stargate Altantis sends a team of intrepid Earthling explorers -- via the stargate, of course -- to an underwater city in an unexplored galaxy so distant there may be fuel for only a one-way trip. Yes, that sounds like a dumb scenario, but silliness has never been much of a barrier for science fiction.

    OK, so this writer is apparently confused enough that he doesn't understand, or care to understand, the internal reality of the show. Fuel? But in addition to that, he takes a swipe at an entire genre of fiction, showing an incredible bias that should have recused him from writing this article in the first place. And what, pray tell, is dumb about a scenario in which scientists and explorers go on a one-way mission? It's been done before, and has been proposed seriously for manned missions to other planets in our own solar system. But since all of science fiction is apparently "silly," any ideas it puts forth must not be worth taking seriously.

    Never mind that science fiction has predicted technologies decades in advance of their introduction.

    The plot of the two-hour pilot is little more than the set-up for the series to follow, and its details are of negligible consequence, since an inventive mythology has never been the strongest element of the Stargate universe.

    WTF? Seriously, WTF? An inventive mythology has never been the strongest element of the Stargate universe? Gee, that's funny, since the show (and the movie it's based upon) has all of the collective mythology of the entire human race to draw upon, blended together with a sprinkling of SciFi concepts to make something new and (somewhat) original. I'd like to see what this author's idea is of a truly inventive mythology.

    And yeah, I know, there's better SciFi out there, most of it in print form, stuff that's really mind-blowing (and some stuff that simply can't be done on SG1's budget, which is why the good SF books never make it to the small screen, let alone the big screen). But I sincerely doubt that this author has read/seen any of that material.

    I wouldn't be basing my opinions of Atlantis on the scribblings of one mentally stunted writer from a podunk newspaper who tacitly admits in the first three paragraphs that he despises science fiction.
  41. Actually... by Kjella · · Score: 5, Interesting

    [Asbestous suit]

    Jesus would be an interesting character to do. Look at the old testament, lots to pick from there... fall from Paradise (forbidden knowledge about the Gau'ould), destroying whole cities (Sodoma and Gomorra), tower of Babel (slaves uniting and revolting?). Sounds like the work of a Gau'ould to me. From afar, he played with them like toys. Oh and don't forget the chosen people with Abraham. Particular breed of human hosts?

    Then something big happened. Make up a good story. Senile like Lord Hu, had a "religious experience", touched by the Ancients, take your pick. Or better yet, Jesus is the human host after the parasite died. He still commands the Gau'ould devices to perform "miracles", but is the good guy. He regrets all that has been done in the past, and tries to take on all human sin as absolution.

    Of course, you're about to screw up the whole trinity thing (with the Holy Ghost being some Gau'ould magic), rewrite the Bible since Creation, claim that neither "God" nor Jesus is of the divine, that Christianity is worshipping an evil alien and a plain human and that the Jews are equally wrong too. Oh, and the muslims will be pissed already, since they claim to decend from Abraham too. Any more we could piss off?

    [Keeping asbestous suit on]

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  42. Mod this guy up, he's right. by cbreaker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You nailed it.

    I don't know why on earth someone that obviously doesn't like Sci-Fi in general would even think about reviewing a Sci-Fi show. And he doesn't even *attempt* to hide it.

    I think that SG-1 is one of the most well thought out Sci-Fi shows ever, if not THE most. The continuity is unmatched, the 'world' of SG-1 is believable and ties in very creatively to ancient human history.

    The character development has been really top-notch, and the actors have done an excellent job in the last seven years. Playing a role in a science fiction show/movie can be the most difficult acting there is. You have to be believable, viable, and versatile.

    It's entertaining, thought provoking science fiction. It's a shame that some people just can't appreciate it. Science fiction broadens your mind and people just don't know what they're missing.

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