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shintaro points out this massive collection of "gear from Enron on auction.
Amongst the more than 3,000 in this auction (1 of 10) are state and federal law books, and numerous notebooks sans hard drives. Might be a good opportunity to pick up a Sun Enterprise Server?
Office furniture is also on offer, Herman Miller and Knolls all over, not an IKEA item in sight. Interesting what Enron employees and shareholders must feel looking at this loot."
No paper shredders????
So... if I buy enron equipment and find more damaging files on the computer, can I auction that back and make some $$$?
I'm waiting for the Martha Stewart Living auction. Mmmm, cheap pots and pans and bedspreads!
Amongst the more than 3,000 in this auction (1 of 10) are state and federal law books
...still in their shrink wrap.
Ba dump bump! Thanks, I'll be here all week. Try the veal.
Weaselmancer
rediculous.
Having purchased at auction a large amount of items from one of my former employers (Sunpoint Securities, Inc - One of the largest brokerage failuers in US History) if you are careful you can make a decent profit on auctions like this.
That didn't last long
Some of that equipement is outdated and not worth the minimum bid... I'll go back to pricewatch and ebay...
I touch computers in naughty places
Why is this under YRO?
In Soviet russia, only old Koreans profit from pictures of Natalie Portman stored on Beowulf Clusters.
I wonder if they'd have the ethics training handbook available. I'd definitely buy that.
Let it be known that we'll no longer "/." a server upon a story. Based on how slloooowwwww their servers are now operating we've "Enron'd" the Enron Auction.
/. is quick and geekie...
Nah,
THIS is funny!
Not that stupid Doom 3 framerate joke from the last story.
(But please mod it underrated, the guy needs some karma)
If they have one, it's certainly in mint condition-- probably still in the original shrink wrap. :-)
esp. with the faux wood grain veneer finish - ahh, they don't make em' like they used to...
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I'm still waiting for SCO to go down, so I get get me a load of cheap Linux licences.
Well, if you are there now, you can tell it is going slooooooowwww... Good Game Slashdot. Same thing happened to thinkgeek.com when the slashdot effect hit them!
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Enron made campaign contributions totaling more than $5.7 million between 1989 and 2001. Republicans received 73% of this money. Ken Lay was an ardent supporter of George W. Bush during Bush's time as Governor of Texas. During the 2000 campaign, Lay allowed Bush to use Enron corporate jets to fly from stump speech to stump speech. So close were these men that Bush granted Lay a nickname: 'Kenny-Boy.'
About this time my '.com' was watching venture capital dry up. We had a meeting with Arthur Andersen to discuss our accounting product and I distinctly remember the 23 or 24 year guy not having the slightest clue why he was even meeting with us. Uniterested and pathetic questions. No wonder every audit firm in the universe used to APPROACH US at tradeshows - they must've thought EVERYONE was on the take.
Well my life since then plays like a broken country album. And Larry Ellison still looks like the devil. I hate this mellenium so far.
Stuff that matters.
Amongst the more than 3,000 in this auction (1 of 10) are state and federal law books
and you can bet they're unopened new, too.
if they donated that equipment to underprivileged schools in the California area or set up a program to assist in identifying needs for computer equipment in honorable community programs? Sounds like a company who has taken so much from the community should give something back rather than liquify assets in to other potentially corrupt businesses.
Amongst the more than 3,000 in this auction (1 of 10) are state and federal law books
Yeah, they couldn't get approval to spend money on toilet rolls, so they used pages from the law books instead.
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These company auctions rarely offer discount prices on anything... People get caught up in the moment and end up paying crazy prices for hardware. Often times you actually do better by buying newer hardware, then picking up things from these auctions.
There are exceptions... If you don't mind picking up a couple of hundred computers you can get a reasonable price per unit, but most on slashdot are probably not looking for that, nor could they afford it...
Just my 2 cents.
Why is their server so slow, this happened the last time there was an Enron auction, who wants to wait 5 minutes for a search?
Right--as if they went to that kind of prison. No, they are going to go or have gone to a minimum security facility like the one Martha Stewart, if she really ends up doing any time at all, will go to. I guarantee you that the upper classes are not subject by the state to ass-fucking like the hoi polloi are when imprisoned.
One CPU cycle wasted on digital restrictions management is ONE TOO MANY.
What rights do you speak of, and how do corporations violate them? Heres a list of my rights
i en ce/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html
http://www.archives.gov/national_archives_exper
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
Am I the only one having this problem?
Interestingly, it's still traded at 3-1/2 cents per share. Which is up 75% from a low of 2 cents per share. If each certificate represents one share of stock, that's a pretty good value -- for toilet paper!
"He who throws mud, loses ground." - proverb
11 - VCR/TV :/)
13 - plasma displays (mostly with screen burn
15 - projectors, cameras, UPS
16 - huge boxes full of keyboards, modems and other cards, CAT5,
17/18 - Compaq deskotps, in groups of 20
18 - Sat. phone, '96 Chevy truck
19 - Pallets of plastic TRASH RECEPTACLES, sate and federal law books
20 - IBM and Compaq PII and PIII laptops (NO HDD!)
21 - IBM 600 and T21 laptops
>22 - couches and other boring stuff
25/27 - SUN and IBM servers
27/28 - Compaq servers
uhh sorry don't have time to go through all of this, maybe someone could continue. just one more random page: 50, Lucent digital phones, SUN servers and Cisco switches
I couldn't resist... I did the math. Of the Compaq and Sun drive arrays that have their disk sizes/model numbers listed, there's 11.8 TERRABYTES of drive on auction!
In other news, of about 40 plasma TV's on auction, 33 of them are suffering from phosphor burn, and the rest are 'untestable.' Guess that settles my decision on whether to go w/ plasma or LCD....
This is insane. Everything has a $200 minimum bid. A good portion of the items here are not worth $200. What are they going to do with that stuff when it doesn't sell?
Hmm, is a lawbook a special Apple MAC for lawyers?
Oh well, what the hell...
Hah!
The first page DID load pretty quickly. But then...
I tried searching for "aeron chair" and got timed out. Many times.
A WHOLE LOTTA geeks must be searching for their dream chair for the home office/frag station.
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Noooo, this stuff is tainted!
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Ummm... hate to break it to ya, but he wasn't talking about the Enron *executives*, but rather the people the executives *screwed over*. You know, the "employees and shareholders"? The ones who had their retirement savings turn into a steaming pile of dung almost overnight? The ones that have to see the equipment of the company liquidated so they can try to recover a *tiny fraction* of the money they invested in the company?
Please, try to restrain yourself from jumping on any perceived opportunity to bash the "establishment" when you clearly do not grasp what a 9-word post really means.
Say what?/ 2675067
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/business
According to the Houston Chronicle, she'll be doing her time in a facility in downtown Houston that's about as cheery as Sadaam's spider-hole. I can't find the exact link for the actual description of her cell (8x10, frosted glass windows no regular sunlight), but she's doing her year in a very ugly place.
I hope Ken Lay gets this times 50...
But you need a $500 reserve on the Credit Card you use to register for the auction for those two days..
... and GE bought them out, their industrial wind power division.
They got a deal on that stuff. GE popped 380 million for an installed up and running massive wind energy business that actually had a good product and was selling great. I don't know about enrons other scams, but this wasn't one of them, just a good product that worked and hit the market at the right time. There's farmers now all over the midwest got these things installed and they are getting a decent check every month that pays them better than farming, harvesting wind. Can't beat it with a stick, demand for electricity ain't never gonna go down.
Enron was weird,megalomania wouldn't let them see their own insanity. In todays world, being in the legitimate energy business is a license to print money almost, even a half assed company with any medium ethics can make boatloads of money. You have to go out of your way to NOT make money. Can you imagine being so steenking greedy that you had to have *more* than that? It's mind boggling how far into love of money depravity some people can get.
My favorite personal piece of Enron memorabilia is a yellow rubber ducky they mailed me when they were selling bandwidth.
Just the goofyness of it. It is so dotCom. Completely unrelated to networking, but here sits this happy little duck with an Enron logo plastered across it's chest and the slogon "GetCapacity" in it's URL.
I use it to talk to when I'm in my office alone and face a moral dilema. Whatever the duck says, I do the opposite.
Please bid on this Karmann Ghia! Please pleas
Don't miss the auction of Enron's art.
Some interesting pieces there.
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Napster-to-go says "Fill and refill your compatible MP3 player", which is a lie. It's not MP3. It's WMA with DRM.
Try quitting the Communist Party. That should improve your viewpoint.
.com that was seeking out venture capital and selling accounting products? That doesn't sound very Communist to me.
Right. Everyone who dislikes Bush and the Republicans is a Communist. At least that's what the Young Republicans on Slashdot would have us believe.
But how do you explain why the so-called "Communist" to whom you replied was working for a
Ross-Dove, the auction house, seems to run high on price. I've been to one of their auctions, and everything sold above blue book.
"Amongst the more than 3,000 in this auction (1 of 10) are state and federal law books"
Unopened, in original packaging?
Ceci n'est pas une signature.
Dibs on the 36" CRTs!
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Unless my brain is still scrambled from waking up... each one of those Compaq storage servers has a total of 666GB of storage... either someone over there has a sense of humor or we're close to the appocalypse :P
Viva La Revolucion! Buy a Mac!
Hey! I had no idea Sun made Tables...
Says here that it's a "Sun Enterprise 6000"
but the picture is of a table...awsome name for a table if ya ask me!
If you haven't been following this, Glisan gave up Fastow, and Fastow gave up Skilling and Lay. We're waiting to see if Lay gives up Bush.
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Source: BOP.Name: LEA W FASTOW
Age: 42
Race: WHITE
Sex: FEMALE
Projected Release Date: 7/10/2005
Location: HOUSTON FDC
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Phone Number: (713)221-5400
Name : BEN F GLISAN
Age: 38
Race: WHITE
Sex: MALE
Projected Release Date: 1/17/2008
Location: BASTROP FCI
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Phone Number: (512)321-3903
Bastrop is a low-security prison, with a plant making bulletproof vests. Houston FDC is an "administrative" facility, for short term prisoners, those in transit, and those with court proceedings nearby.
Maybe California can buy its power back?
Remain calm! All is well!
Oh baby!
http://tinyurl.com/6ucks
this slashdotting effectively destroyed any opportunity to get a deal, as 100,000,000 greedy geeks will LIVE at dovebid til the auction is over.
Who would want a server that looks like this.
(They mixed item desctription for item 141, and picture of 1441)
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Interesting what Enron employees and shareholders must feel looking at this loot In a word... Sad. Just like most of you, I went to work everyday and worked my tail off. I worked at Enron for 3 years, right till the end. I can honestly say this, I never again expect to work with a group of people as smart, driven and passionate as I did with the crooked E. That is the saddest part. Some of the best people I have ever worked with are going through the same thing.... very sad.
They have a Parcel Scanner on page 9. They are selling rolling stands in a lot of 4 pallets. (So if I need 80 rolling stands at home I know where to go) Plus 2 pages of refrigerators, a Noritake China Set (with gold and platinum ring) And they have a lot of 19 microwaves. (Could have 2 in each room of the house) And Even a ping pong table! Lot 781 is 4 boxes of pagers. Considering they are selling on E-bay, you would think they could sell everything an item at a time. (then again, who would want to spend that kind of time filling out the paperwork.)
From here...
"DoveBid shall charge and collect from each successful bidder a 13% buyer's premium for each sale at the auction, in addition to the purchase price as bid. Purchasers who pay in the form of cash, cashier's check, company check (with a letter of guarantee) or wire transfer, shall receive a discount from the buyer's premium equal to 3% of the purchase price. In addition, Auctioneer reserves the right to charge a nonrefundable $25 registration fee for its own account to purchasers who bid over the Internet at a Webcast auction. All subsequent references to a "Buyer's Premium" shall include this registration fee."
13% plus $25 registration, plus texas sales tax...
"And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of the World"
1 John 4:14
Please go fuck your pretentious self. Thank you.
If they go the way of Enron , I guess before long someone will be auctioning a used Carnivore or Echelon system, one careful owner. But don't hold your breath.
Panurge has posted for the last time. Thanks for the positive moderations.
$200.00 minimum bid for a black leather ergonomic rolling office chair?
Lousy facepalm.
I'm a grad student in the Interactive Media Division at USC. In our media lab meeting space we have 6 aerons from enron (it's been rumored they were board room chairs).
I've never actually been to one of these, and being in Austin figured I might go, or get someone to go for me.
Whats the procedure for bidding? Is any of this stuff actually worth bidding on, and do they actually go for decent prices?
Blake
Consider my foppish and deserving ass properly fucked (and spanked, though not in that order). Bless you for your admonition.
Enron didn't use paper shredders. They used wood chippers. Yeahh baby!! You need industrial strength at the last hour.
Life is not for the lazy.
After some reflection, I feel I should point out that the previous response was dripping with sarcasm. It's already been pointed out that you have difficulty understanding sentences longer than "See Spot run", and chances would seem small to expect you to notice *subtle* things such as sarcasm.
Since all these sentences are longer than 9 words, I doubt you'll be able to make sense of any of it. I expect you will promptly reply with some intricately designed combination of profanity... or a link to goatse.
116 pieces, to be exact, worth approx 6 cents each. If I sell now, it can be a tax deduction! :-D
Imagine what the shareholders feel? Imagine what the state of California and other government bodies feel, since they were the ones bilked out of hundreds of millions of dollars.
The company is now 'back' in business under a new name, employees still stiffed, old company drained of assets.
So, where does the money from this Enron go? Anyone actually deserving?
I think it more likely you will reply to this with another attempt to glorify yourself at the expense of the OP, further demonstrating your insecurity in your own relatively shallow understanding of the language.
This story is about a year too late! I was there when Dovebid sold all those Enron balls, pens, and even a HUGE sign that used to hang outside their headquarters.
I didn't buy anything though, because everything was bid up to and obscene amount.
eTrade SUCKS
Of course. This must be about my insecurity not about your unability to understand a nine word post. Dumbass.
People who commit these yps of crimes shouldn't go to those kind of prisons. There not violent, and it cost more to put them their.
Personally, I think the Enron people should be stripped of all everything they own. put into a min. federal prison. I think Marths Stwerts sentence is appropriete for her crimes, and Ken Ley should be put into one for 25 years.
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
It is funny you should say that. It seems America is moving closer and closer to being a socialist society. We just had Medicare say that obesity was a sickness so now we will have more tax dollars go to people who can't stay away from McDonald's and get some exercise. We work longer and longer every year to pay our share of the taxes. Soon those who work will get no real money and everyone will be on state aid with all our earnings going to the state. Those who can't work(probably most if the current trend persists)won't.
Wow...as if much of this stuff wasn't already available through other "dot-bomb" crashes. Like I'm going to bid on it just because it was property of 'enron'...hah...what a sham.
Goals are deceptive - the unaimed arrow never misses.
I was really hoping to buy enron.com, no such luck.
With all the religious fervor [the collective] we exhibit over the evils of various corporations (Enron easily among them), I'd be shocked if anyone actually purchased from this auction. Or maybe a cheap Sun server is worth a little hypocrisy?
It goes from God, to Jerry, to me.
Why would anyone take a job from them now?
Anyone familar with dovebid? How do I .de, so local pickup is not an
get any details about an item? Int'l shipping?
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It seems America is moving closer and closer to being a socialist society. We just had Medicare say that obesity was a sickness so now we will have more tax dollars go to people who can't stay away from McDonald's and get some exercise.
The reason that Medicare did that was that obesity-related illnesses cost them far more that addressing the problem of obesity. If they can pay for weight loss drugs along with diet and exercise counseling now, it's a lot cheaper than paying to treat diabetes, heart attacks, strokes, and cancer later.
As to your concerns about a "socialist society," what is a society if not a group of people joining together and helping one another? Perhaps you would prefer to live like a pack animal, abandoning those who are sick or injured to die, but I would not. I'd rather that some of my money go to help the less fortunate. I'd rather have government/taxpayer aid help keep an unemployed person from losing their house and ending up destitute. I'd rather see someone born into poverty get government grants and subsidized loans for education. Keeping poor people uneducated and poor, and allowing the unemployed to slide into poverty, costs society far more than giving them aid.
Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
Go fuck yourself
http://www.dovebid.com/assets/display.asp?ItemID=w eb2164446
Minimum of $200 for each? Hah. Thank you very much.
-the B0fh
That link doesn't seem to work.
One of the fundamental goverment roles is to provide basic services. If the power were to go out, I would bet people would be up in arms. They also provide for roads and other public goods. The problem is that most Americans, and a good part of the first-World consider medical care a basic service. As the trend continues for medical cost to rise, such basics to our standard of living, like medicane is begining to be prohibitive. The problem then becomes who can afford medicial care? If it reaches the point where you have to make a small fortune every year to afford medical insurance, then there is a problem. IMHO if a significant majority of American's are overweight then that is a social problem that needs to be addressed. The same argument could be stated for other diseases. The question that you have to ask when deciding if something is a bad thing for society is whether or not the social benefit outweighs the social cost. But to argue that pretty soon state aide will be more attractive than working is short-sighted. The state can only supply services based on income. If the majority of people get on social-aide, then the system won't be able to support them and they will be forced to work. With the current trends, some believe, the Social Security system will collaspe by 2030 -- with nearly 3 people on Social Security and 1 person working. Also, it is estimated that by the same time that people will be paying nearly 80% of their real income to pay for medical care. Now the question I have to ask: at what point is state aide for medical care reasonable? When only the super rich can afford it? Just in case your wondering, I am a republican. But I also have seen how unreasonable medical costs can consume the lives of people and destroy the finanical livelyhood of familes.
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$5 / month hosted VPS on linux = awesome!
Selling old junk for big money is a great idea... Works well when people think they are getting a deal 'cause the co. is bankrupt... I'd like to know what will happen to the cash... Will it be used to pay creditors? It's certainly not going to the shareholders who lost their shirts.
All the torrents you could want.
And then try to explain yourself because you made absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Not even a little bit.
Nope.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
Then pick a cause or two and donate your time and money. Please don't take away my choice to do so.
You do have that choice. You can donate time and money to any cause that you want. You just can't completely opt out of your societal obligation to help the needy. That's all that the current system prevents. It just sets the lower limit.
I don't have a choice as to whether my money buys a new bomber for the Pentagon, do I? If you think that solely voluntary donation is such a good system, why not run all aspects of government like that? Why not have the FBI rely on donations? How about letting people decide whether to donate to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration? What about letting people decide whether they would rather spend their money supporting the CIA, funding the Department of Agriculture, or buying themselves a new Lexus?
I don't want you to be able to choose to help no one but yourself. I don't want there to be a monetary reward for selfishness. I don't want you to be able to afford a better lifestyle than your neighbor simply because you choose to spend all of your money on yourself while he steps up to bat to help the needy.
To shoot the final hole in that tired old argument, if you eliminate the current system for a voluntary one, then money would go to popular causes rather than where it's needed. There would be plenty of money for cherub-faced children in densely populated areas. But there wouldn't be a lot of money for drug and alcohol rehab programs on American Indian reservations.
Um...what "obligation" is that, exactly? Could you point out what part of the Constitution authorizes the government to take money from one group of people (by force if necessary) and give it to another group of people? The OP is correct...perhaps instead of being generous with other people's money, you might try being generous with your own money (or time) instead.
20 January 2017: the End of an Error.
It is a societal obligation -- as in something that you are morally obligated to do as a member of society.
Could you point out what part of the Constitution authorizes the government to take money from one group of people (by force if necessary) and give it to another group of people?
Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1: "The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States;..."
The OP is correct...
No, he, like you, is incorrect.
perhaps instead of being generous with other people's money, you might try being generous with your own money (or time) instead.
No, I prefer the system as it stands -- the one put in place by our elected representatives. I'd rather have laws to help ensure that everyone pays their fair share rather than having only the generous and decent people shoulder all of the financial burden of helping the less fortunate. I don't want you to be able to opt-out of helping the needy. I don't want you to be able to use the money you withold from from the needy to fund your next BMW purchase.
Now answer the remaining questions that I asked in the parent post rather than trying to come up with snappy sound bites:
Perhaps, but how does a moral obligation translate into a legal requirement? Aren't you people always whining that we shouldn't "force our morality" on you? It seems you have no problem forcing your morality on others.
Wrong. You don't seriously expect us to believe that when the Founding Fathers wrote that part of the Constitution, that they had welfare queens living off of the public's forced generosity in mind, do you?
With the exception of defense, none of those functions are authorized by the Constitution. You might be able to read a justification for the CIA into "providing for the common defense" (the military needs good intel if it's to be effective), but the "general welfare" clause and the commerce clause have for decades been abused to bloat the government beyond all reasonable limits.
WTFSoF is it to you what anybody does with his money? When you start earning it, you can decide what to do with it. Until then, get bent.
20 January 2017: the End of an Error.
Perhaps, but how does a moral obligation translate into a legal requirement?
When our elected representatives pass a law requiring it. For instance, you have a moral obligation to not kill people and there is a corresponding legal obligation.
Aren't you people always whining that we shouldn't "force our morality" on you?
Who are "you people" and why do you portray the expression of opposing viewpoints as "whining"?
It seems you have no problem forcing your morality on others.
Our whole legal code is based on morality. We've decided it is immoral to steal, murder, rape, etc. and have passed laws against those things. What many people oppose is the codification of religious beliefs and writing laws limiting individual freedoms.
Wrong.
Use as much boldface text as you want, but you are the one who is wrong. If the current system of welfare was unconstitutional, don't you think that it would have been struck down by now?
You don't seriously expect us to believe that when the Founding Fathers wrote that part of the Constitution, that they had welfare queens living off of the public's forced generosity in mind, do you?
You don't seriously expect us to believe that your thinly veiled racist comment about "welfare queens" is a fair characterization of the entire welfare system, do you? You just want to conjure up stereotypical images of overweight, uncouth, ignorant black women surrounded by children when the reality is that the welfare system benefits everyone from low-income college students to out-of-work middle class Americans.
Your side would have us believe that the Founding Fathers, whose idea of a gun was a muzzle-loading musket, wrote the Second Amendment with the intention of allowing deranged wackos living in the woods to own fully automatic weapons, so please don't even go there about stretching the interpretation of the Constitution.
With the exception of defense, none of those functions are authorized by the Constitution.
So you are advocating that we do away with the NHTSA, FDA, Department of Agriculture, and every other non-defense related government function? Wow! That's out there.
You might be able to read a justification for the CIA into "providing for the common defense" (the military needs good intel if it's to be effective), but the "general welfare" clause and the commerce clause have for decades been abused to bloat the government beyond all reasonable limits.
The "general welfare" clause is what has allowed us to function as a society and become the greatest nation in the world -- all the while paying about the lowest tax rate of any first-world country.
WTFSoF is it to you what anybody does with his money?
I don't want to have to shoulder a greater and greater percentage of the cost of helping the needy as you and your fellow wallet-worshipping peers opt out of helping the needy.
When you start earning it, you can decide what to do with it. Until then, get bent.
In case you haven't noticed, my side won decades ago. You're taxed and if you don't pay, you go to jail. Once the government gets the taxes, they can allocate it however they want. They can use it to increase welfare benefits to individuals. They can spend it on corporate welfare (like giving McDonalds millions of dollars to promote their products overseas.) They can spend it to promote eco-tourism in Alaska, plant trees on public lands, or fund studies about the effects of Nutra-Sweet on lab rats. And the only thing you can do is vote. If enough people agree with you, then you'll win. But don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen.
Now that a few posts have gone by I can say that yes, I did live on a commune when I was 7-8. I see the inefficiency AND value of Competition, Free-Enterpirse, and Profit. However,all things are relative. I just want US to overcome the various social downsides of Predatory Capitalism in such a way that everyone pulls their own weight AND has a reasonably pleasurable experience while trapped in these bags-of-mostly-water. Stalin was a thug who bullied murderers. Marx was a famous comedian/tragedician(sic). Communists work so as to eat, which may come as a suprising theory to you, but I doubt it will fill your belly. Read some Kurt Vonnegut and remember your humanity. Capitalism without Communism is like a not-so-diversified portfolio. You may get rich today, but how will you handle the certain storms of tomorrrow? I think it's deliciously ironic that this thread occured. I just hope it doesn't come back to bite me in the ass! May the Moderator have Mercy on my Meaning.
Stuff that matters.
"Companies have one obligation, make money for the shareholders."
That seems to be the line from management to justify their most questionable actions.
The actual laws of business success are these two:
1. A company should provide superior goods and services to its customers.
2. A company should provide for the wellfare of its employees execept were this will interfer with the first law of business.
There is no law for self-presevation since a compnay is not a living organism.
No law for providing return to shareholders is necessary, since these two laws will automatically produce profit for the company. (Also, since modern shareholders are more like gamblers than investors, only pre-IPO investors who have taken a genuine risk to support a new company really deserve a return to reward that risk).
Enron was way past the point of Shredders : they worked with shrinters
Not secure enough.
If your shredder, or shrinter doesn't do cross cutting then what is the point?
Me? I shred EVERTHING, including all junk mail with a cross cutting shredder, I mix up the shreddings really good, and then I burn* them!
Naturally, I'm on homeland security's watch list because of this.
* (actually, I just mix it up with my garbage. I don't actually think anyone is going through my garbage, but it would be funny if the police or feds were putting together the little shreds of paper mixed with rotting vegetables just to reveal my junk mail and utility bills.)
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