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Tycoon Guy writes "Is that the sound of desperation I hear? TrekToday is reporting that, according to a trailer shown at CBS Television City, William Shatner will be appearing on Star Trek: Enterprise for a two-episode guest stint - as James T. Kirk! The most likely writers of his episodes are Trek novelists Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens, who already resurrected Kirk in their books, and were just hired as story editors for Enterprise's fourth season." We reported a rumor to this effect a couple of months back.
KHAAAAAN!!
Hokey statistics and ancient misconceptions are no match for a good thought in your head, kid!
Let's just all hope that Kirk doesn't go back to old habits, rip his shirt off, and fight a guy in a rubber suit...*shudders*
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Where Kirk must defeat the Time Travel dudes to once again save the earth... FROM THEMSELVES!
Or something equally as peposterous.
you can always fall back on guest appearances from characters from shows that had good writers.
This is just sad.
and here's the link with the exclusive reason of why Shatner is returning for a guest appearance...
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true." - Homer Simpson
I wonder if shatner got paramount a good priceline price on the time warp to send Kirk back into the past.
The sheer number of times he's suggested he'll never do any more Star Trek is starting to make me think he just says it to up the price he gets the next time he does it.
- Allen Pike
Altering time, one time at a time.
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Now they just have to put McCoy on with him... "I'm dead, Jim."
Just so long as they also bring back the mini-skirted 1960s era women whose job was to have Kirk fall in love with them. And make sure that they have too much make-up on and for some reason get to hang around the bridge even though they don't work there.
John.
Make your voice known, as hopefully a return will prevent him releasing any more terrible cover versions of good songs.
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Man, unless he's time-traveling back, it'll be damn hard to make him look like the feisty young thing of the '60s.
They'll have to slather him with makeup and airbrush half of him out of the frames.
The coolest voice ever.
Heh, geez, got any humorless mods here today? Oh yah, I see a couple right here. =P
Fact: Shatner is too old to play Kirk in the Enterprise timeline without some serious higgledy-piggledy with said timeline.
Probability: Yet Another Time Travel Adventure! YATTA!
Hokey statistics and ancient misconceptions are no match for a good thought in your head, kid!
To date my absolute favorite episode of Deep Space 9 was the Trials and Tribbleations episode, now, granted, they spliced them into an old TOS episode, but still. :)
"The saddest words of mice and men, are not those which were, but should have been."
The flexibility and dynamic range that this affords the director will make for a better movie.
Now all we need is for someone to take hit Al Pacino over the head, steal his copy of Simpone and adapt :)
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Nuts to Kirk, bring back Welshie!
I'm looking forward to this. Why? Well, Enterprise isn't that bad. In fact, I quite enjoy watching it. Just take everything for face value and sit back. It can be pretty good when you give it a chance.
Next, we have William Shatner; one of the people who is now simply famous for being/playing himself (Christopher Walken, Adam West, Leonard Nimoy, Ron Jeremy, etc.)
I can see nothing bad coming from this. It could be really good and well written. Or, it could be cheesy, and I think I'd like it more in that case. Either way, between that and Corner Gas, I'm going to be quite entertained this season....
- Relativistic? That's barely Newtonian!
So Enterprise takes place, what a couple centuries before TOS, so somehow old fat Elvis^h^h^hKirk travels back in time to join the crew?
The lamest thing in Star Trek is the sloppy way they throw time travel in as a weak plot device to jam characters from the campy old 60s show into the modern ones. The TNG episodes with old timey characters: a 400 year old Bones, a Scotty who'd been stuck in a transporter beam for centuries, Spock - a vulcan who lives for centuries, shows up and even though physiologically he shouldnt be that much older, he looks like King Tut's corpse.
I guess it would be too much work to try and make Enterprise a genuinely interesting show. I'm sure the "James T Kirk appears on a very special Enterprise" promos will spike their ratings a point or two for the first half of the episode, then people tune out after realizing that the show just plain stinks.
Maybe Shatner will kill this crappy show. Perhaps Scott Bakula will mysteriously turn up floating face-down in a swimming pool.
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Odds are he will be on, but as a ancestor much like Data will be on (playing his creators great great grandfather and one of the scientists who created Khan durring the eugenics war)
But if the recent word on whats going to take place this year holds true (Vulcan war created by the still unseen romulans which explains the vulcans additude the previous three seasons, end of the TCW storyline and a wrap up of last season, the eugenics war storyline involving tracking down the escaped scientist. more andorian storylines.. to name a few) then Enterprise might have finally recreated it's self as a preqel and not a revision.
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How can expect that poor old man to save Enterprise when he couldn't even float Iron Chef USA? "Today's theme ingredient is... TIME TRAVEL"
Oh, shit, you can fill in the blanks with your own imagination...
Because, to borrow and change a quote:
They've done far worse than kill you. They've hurt you and they wish to go on hurting you. They shall leave you as you left Voyager, as you left Deep Space Nine, marooned. for all eternity in the center of a dead science fiction universe: buried alive (with your television set).
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Man, unless he's time-traveling back, it'll be damn hard to make him look like the feisty young thing of the '60s.
They'll have to slather him with makeup and airbrush half of him out of the frames.
Maybe they can do the same thing they did for the guy in Lord of the Rings who played Gollum. Have Shatner on the set acting with all the other characters and then CGI an image of how he looked back in the 60's on top. Like a virtual face lift.
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First, he was more interesting and more fun on The Practice as Denny Craine. The Enterprise should go back and meet Denny. Second, they should use the animated Kirk from the cartoon series. That Kirk was a better actor.
It's been a long time since I've actually groaned aloud from reading a slashdot headline. Eh, thanks I guess.
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This news just makes me wish there was another season of "Farscape" coming up. Or, hell, another season of ST:TNG.
Or another season of black filler between the commercials. Or another season of static. Or another season of being kicked in the groin by a large horse.
Don't get me wrong; I think Shatner has entered his period of self-parody very gracefully (the latest Priceline commercials are really cute). But to re-enter the role of Kirk means playing it straight, and I just don't think he can pull that off anymore.
But more importantly, I think it shows just how creatively bankrupt Star Trek has gotten under Berman's watch. I lost interest in DS9 at about season two, watched perhaps half a dozen episodes of Voyager, and saw Enterprise's pilot, but that's about it. Maybe I'm getting old and crochety, but there's just no sense of wonder there anymore.
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>I heard about an interview where they asked him why he would talk so slow. He answered that he did it for more on-camera time... kinda funny.
Adam West said that about playing Batman. Robin was pissed off.
"Redundant?" Please. I feel like this a perfect example of how sloppy moderates are getting these days. The first quote was "Khan!" (note the spelling), referring to the enemy Kirk met in an episode of the original series, and later in Star Wars II: The Wrath of Khan. THIS post is in reference to "Kahn," who (I believe) is a villian who ran afoul of Catpain Krik in an esipode the original "Satr Terk" series.
Or something...
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He's got to be in his 60s, right? I wonder what they would do if they made all these big announcements and suddenly his health took a bad turn? How do series deal with signing really old actors, anyway?
And sign me up for CGI kirk with Shatner doing the voice-overs. I don't think I have the stomach (or maybe he has too much of one) to see Bill jumping around the stage with a ripped shirt fighting some rubber lizard over a great-looking woman.
Heck -- just get rid of all of them except the great-looking women. We could do a new show, sort of a cross between Baywatch and Trek. Something like "Nebula-Watch"
"Firefly" is good because of the same reason the TNG was good. There arn't crazy special effects, or crazy intense computer generated graphics, just good story and good actors. Firefly in my opinion has the best un-noticed cast I've ever seen. I was really skeptical on the series, but after watching the pilot and one episode, I was hooked. I now own the whole series on dvd.
... his return will involve a wormhole, travelling back through time, the Borg, and a holodeck malfunction (er, after travelling *forward* through time first, of course).
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There was an episode on one of the spin-off shows (Voyager?) wherein there was an organization similar to starfleet, but with the responsibility to keep the timeline clean. Maybe the next spin-off (Time Trek) should be about those guys. What, with all the time-travel as an explanation that seems to be occuring recently.
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A couple of episodes of Kirk wouldn't mean that much for the franchise, and here's why:
Kirk wasn't the best captain. Piccard was. As a matter of fact, the original show was good not because of Kirk, but because of the chemistry of the crew: Bones (what kind of nickname is that anyway?) was an alcoholic. You can see that from the way his eyes were always watery. Scotty was probably the only one in his family that finished college, and the rest of the crew was great too.
The next generation had horrible, boring and pollitically correct crewmates, and a kickass captain. (Q and borg were good too)
(You'd better believe that when Piccard would say "Fire at Will!" I'd be the first one to unload a clip into that John Tesh-liking bearded wimp.)
Voyager had 7of9, DS9 had a story, and Enterprise has hmm... not sure yet.
So in conclusion, I believe that it's the characters and their chemistry that makes the show, not any one individual or the wacky situations they're put in. A couple of shots of Kirk are too little, too late.
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Why not? The whole series is based on an F'ed up time travel story... They can do anything they want now, and always press the cosmic reset button. Enterprise has no credibility - the only way to redeem it at this point would be to have the series end with a small child reading a book, and at the end we come to find out it is 23rd century fiction about the 'past', and the person reading it is a young James T. Kirk. The story would be the childhood inspiration he had to become a starfleet officer.
Better yet, how about we get Fred Savage to play a father reading the book out loud to his son... the series can then alternate between Enterprise clips, and the son interrupting him with things like, "Eww... not that kissing stuff again", ala Princess Bride.
rofl! Warn us before you have our computers shouting KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAN out at work ;)
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His mission to return Shatner to Trek finally complete, Dr. Sam Beckett leaps out of Captain Archer's body...
This ...BUFFERING... can't be ...BUFFERING... the entire Away Team ...BUFFERING... gone ...BUFFERING... in a flash ...BUFFERING...
Star Trek is a classic example of something that was good, but has been rehashed so many times that it's all tapped out. The mine is spent. The well is dry. Star Trek has died on the vine.
I can't think of any more rediculous ways of saying it. Star Trek must die, for the good of Star Trek. Let it die. Let someone new pick it up again in a decade. End the madness now!
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Tribbles take over the Enterprise! Again!
The vulcan chick's breasts start expanding for no apparent reason, and the Enterprise is helpless to stop them!
Watch as Gene Roddenbury spins over and over in his grave and is then resurrected like in Star Trek IV!
Watch as Berman tries to save a hopelessly bad space opera which has lost all continuity and has turned into an ugly parody of science fiction!
Personally, I'd rather watch Star Trek: Borg, where you watch as the Borg take over the rest of the planets. I can see it now. "These are the voyages of Borg Cube #200345. It's mission: To explore strange new worlds...to seek out new life, and new civilizations...to annihilate them and steal their technology...to boldly destroy what no man has destroyed before. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated." *Cue music*
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Bermaaaaaaaaaaan!
Such is the problem with hollywierd insisting on catering to a thematically challenged (US) populace that can't stand to see heroes die, that can't stand to live thru forced/regular ensemble changes. I find it refreshing that some European programming (not necessarily all, but some) change the characters out.
In a real navy (well, at least in the USN, surface ships), crew members rotate. In SOME billets, personnel might remain at a command (as specific ship or base, not referring to being "in command") for up to 3 years. Ship drivers (ship captains and officers near the level of captain) might be rotated afer 24-28 month, mainly due to "ticket-punching" and professional development, or for fleet requirements. Trek rarely took advantage of any of this, relying on the "deep space assignment" crutch. Transporter, time machines, and quantum slipstreams in speed advances could have eliminated this. (Yes, I can see the submarine/deep space analogy... But, on Earth, people can see you rotate/change commands.) And, no, rotating walk-ons to sit in a bridge chair for a few minutes of quick-pan, no-lens dwell time doesn't cut it.
Episodic series too heavily rely upon familiar, pretty, expensive faces. I guess pretty boys and pretty girls and their agents won't get rich on the usual sequel treadmill.
What Trek might need is a revival of Voyager. I wish Harry Kim WAS a captain, not just some shoe-in to an alternate timeline that **suggested** (End Game) he **could** be a captain. After all, Paramount could conveniently find Captain Braxton of the Federation Timeship Aeon to aerate Kim and have Endgame just as (scriptwise) conveniently succeed with the demise of the Borg...
And, probably ALL same-face ensemble-based shows could stand to freshen up their actors/actresses and yield to changing values a bit more frequently, rather than forcing upon gullible or swayed audiences a constant face or actor.
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I don't know if special effects are good enough to do that, after all the camera adds 10 pounds...how do they explain the other 100 pounds?
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The only reason Guinan's "echo" gave for not leaving, when Picard asked her to come back, was that she "was already there". Kirk's not. He died (with the stupidest last words EVER: "Oh my." WTF). He could come out again, presumably leaving another echo behind. And since The Nexus transcends time, Enterprise could just happen to come upon it.
Nice. Intergalactic, soul-duplicating Xerox machine for resurrecting characters at will. Oh, look! Somehow, Khan got in the Nexus too! ROUND 3: FIGHT!
10) Drop rumors here and there that N'Sync will guest star as plasma-sword wielding space knights.
9) Show more science officer cleavage.
8) Invert the bullshition particle field and modulate it to 5.69 isohertz!
7) Wait until Paramount is 5 minutes plus a commercial break suspense builder away from canceling the show, and present a contrived and not so suprising solution.
6) Start selling pieces of Deforest Kelly's mummified flesh as souvenirs to the faithful.
5) Show more science officer cleavage!
4) Wait for JMS to pitch another scifi show concept, and then blatantly steal it after the lawyers have lawsuit-proofed the theft.
3) Hide Riker's razor!
2) Holodeck brothels.
And the number one way to save the Star Trek franchise is....
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Television needs more shows where the villians are the focus.
You mean like Simple Life 2?
Another ten cameras?
How about a show that just explores life on earth in the 'utopian' society ST created? What's life like for everyone else on the ground? What about a CSI or NYPD Blue type of show set in the ST world. We get to see life in the future and see something like a cop show, etc.
Jesus, even I can be more original than some of their "writers".
Plus, what is Kirk going to do? Come back in time as an old man (as he is now) and tell the first enterprise to do this and that? Or will they have him play Kirk's great great grandfather?
> Fact: Shatner is too old to play Kirk in the Enterprise timeline
> without some serious higgledy-piggledy with said timeline.
> Probability: Yet Another Time Travel Adventure! YATTA!
But there *IS* a nice in-continuity answer. And, yes, it does involve time-travel.
Remember the episode of DS9 where they go back in time to "The Trouble With Tribbles"? When Sisko was explaining themselves to those "temporal investigation" guys, remember the recoil when Sisko mentioned Kirk's name? Kirk apparently held the record for the number of "temporal incursions". I remember seeing a website, once, where somebody went through all the episodes and movies, counted the time travel incidents, and came up well short of the figure in DS9. So there's PLENTY of opportunity for Shatner, and the 1701 to pay a visit to Dr. Beckett.
And Shatner has long since hit the point where old people don't get older, they just get fatter instead. He looks, now, like a kind of chunky version of Kirk, circa ST5 or ST6.
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