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An anonymous reader writes "The dream of building the Jetson's Skypad Apartment may come to true because technology designed for space could become the basis of the new German Antarctic station. The same ultra-light composites that ESA uses onboard its spacecraft for antennas and solar panels, will be used to make a self-supporting lightweight shell-like structure able to withstand severe earthquakes. This approach is in sharp contrast to many contemporary design solutions that use ever more steel and concrete..."

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  1. Space Age Refrigerator by teiresias · · Score: 5, Funny

    as long as my Space Age House has a Space Age refrigerator thats connected to the internet so it can order my groceries for me........

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    1. Re:Space Age Refrigerator by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Funny

      I've always wondered what you do if the elevator breaks.

      "Toss me down a rope Marsha!"

      "Not until you admit you were wrong!"

    2. Re:Space Age Refrigerator by linzeal · · Score: 5, Funny
      "If those damn kids hack into my fridge again and order me 30 gallons of cow vagina and lentil soup I'm going to kill them!"

      - Me, in 30 years.

    3. Re:Space Age Refrigerator by brainstyle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And your space-age refrigerator would have to be really curvy, alas. This is one of the reasons we still have boxy houses in this day and age: you can't put, say, a typical couch flush against the wall of a spherical house. And you might bang your head on the inwards-curving ceiling a lot, too...

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    4. Re:Space Age Refrigerator by Rei · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You've been inside a dome house before, haven't you?

      My aunt has one :) It's a really pretty structure, very structurally sound, a beautiful view through the geodesic windows, etc.... and *most* rooms are pretty normal shaped. But, most notably, the outer rooms on the second floor have really weird shaped sloping ceilings, making the room taper off very notably.

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  2. Sounds perfect for Florida... by BerntB · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Should be perfect for Florida and other places with "high winds", using ultra-light composites... :-)

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    1. Re:Sounds perfect for Florida... by Nos. · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How often does Florida get winds that exceed 220KM/h? That pretty much requires a Category 4 hurricane, not very often, and these are probably more resistant than mobile homes.

    2. Re:Sounds perfect for Florida... by MalaclypseTheYounger · · Score: 3, Informative

      RTFA - SpaceHouse can withstand vibrations from earthquakes of up to 7 on the Richter scale, wind speeds of up to 220 km/h and up to 3 metres of flooding

      Should handle a nice combination of the worst weather of Florida, L.A., and New Orleans.

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    3. Re:Sounds perfect for Florida... by BerntB · · Score: 3, Funny
      RTFA - SpaceHouse can withstand [..] wind speeds of up to 220 km/h
      Sorry. I did read an article earlier today, but not that one. The one I read didn't say anything about wind speed.

      What nitwits voted my stupid article to 5, btw? :-)

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    4. Re:Sounds perfect for Florida... by MalaclypseTheYounger · · Score: 3, Funny

      Granted, Hurricane Charley would've given this SpaceHouse a run for it's 'structural money' if this was in the path of that particular hurricane. 220km/h roughly 137.5mph, and Charley had windspeeds of 145mph, I believe.

      I wonder if this house flies through the air like a frisbee at those speeds. (It doesn't seem likely that it would be torn apart like normal houses are, it's too aerodynamic).

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    5. Re:Sounds perfect for Florida... by Guppy06 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "As the air passes over it, the structure is pressed down rather than tipping."

      Tipping isn't the main problem. The problem is when one or two windows are broken, allowing airflow through the house. Once that happens, you start to generate lift, which rips roofs off of houses. This is why you're supposed to shutter your windows in a hurricane.

      And as for "How often do you see 220 km/h winds?" angle, Hurricane Charley hit Florida with sustained winds over 230 km/h, with recorded gusts over 290 km/h on land. Don't forget that hurricanes are categorized by sustained windspeed; even weaker storms are capable of gusting over 220 km/h for brief periods.

      Back when I was evacuating from Floyd, I promised myself that if I'm ever able to have my own home built it will be out of concrete and steel. Even after seeing this I still feel that way.

    6. Re:Sounds perfect for Florida... by DAldredge · · Score: 2, Informative

      165 mph = 265.54176 kph

      Cat 5 hurricanes can have wind speeds above 165 MPH.

      That only 45 kph over the max rated wind speed.

    7. Re:Sounds perfect for Florida... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Tipping isn't the main problem. The problem is when one or two windows are broken, allowing airflow through the house. Once that happens, you start to generate lift, which rips roofs off of houses. This is why you're supposed to shutter your windows in a hurricane.

      While this is true, you need to keep in mind that shaping the windows as part of a sphere makes them far stronger than those on a regular house. In addition, the aerodynamic shape allows airflow to pass over the structure instead of bearing the full brunt of the force.

      And as for "How often do you see 220 km/h winds?" angle, Hurricane Charley hit Florida with sustained winds over 230 km/h, with recorded gusts over 290 km/h on land. Don't forget that hurricanes are categorized by sustained windspeed; even weaker storms are capable of gusting over 220 km/h for brief periods.

      I didn't say anything about "how often do you see 220 kph winds". Actually, I thought the structure looked slightly underwhelming based on their specs. A 7 on the Richter scale may *seem* high, but it wouldn't survive 10 seconds in a major California quake.

      Back when I was evacuating from Floyd, I promised myself that if I'm ever able to have my own home built it will be out of concrete and steel. Even after seeing this I still feel that way.

      The design seems sound. It strikes me that the model they're building is designed to be slightly weaker because of where it will be used. I see very little reason why the structure couldn't be reinforced with more materials.

    8. Re:Sounds perfect for Florida... by MalaclypseTheYounger · · Score: 4, Informative

      True, but with only 7 Cat 5 Hurricanes in the past 50 years or so (and not all in Florida), and the actual definition of a CAT 5 hurricane is total destruction, with very few structures (if any) being able to withstand the full-force onslaught of a CAT 5 hurricane, I'd certainly live in this SpaceHouse... my Florida home is concrete top to bottom, and only rated to withstand a Category 3-4 hurricane.

      History of Cat 5 hurricanes:

      Hurricane Carla: This hurricane hit on September 10, 1961. It struck the Texas coast. About 500,000 people were evacuated from the area. Winds near the center of the hurricane were estimated at 150 miles per hour. Damage was about $2 billion (adjusted to 1990 dollars) and 46 people died.

      Hurricane Betsy: This hurricane hit on September 8, 1965. It hit Florida first and then turned and hit the Louisiana coast. A total of 75 people lost their lives. The hurricane had winds as high as 160 miles per hour. In 1990 dollars, Betsy caused $6.5 billion of damage -- making it the third most costly hurricane in the U.S.

      Hurricane Camille: This hurricane began on August 17, 1969. It was a Category 5 hurricane -- the most powerful rating, with winds as high as 200 miles per hour. The hurricane hit the U.S. Gulf Coast, but also caused flooding in Virginia. About 250 people died because of the hurricane and the flooding. It was the fifth most costly disaster in U.S. history, with damage of $5.2 billion (in 1990 dollars).

      Hurricane Celia: This hurricane hit Texas on August 3, 1970 and caused $1.6 billion in damage (in 1990 dollars). Very high winds damaged an airport and demolished a nearby mobile home park, fortunately, only 11 people died.

      Hurricane Gilbert: This hurricane hit on September 16, 1988. It was a Category 5 hurricane with winds as high as 160 miles per hour. It went through Jamaica, over the Yucatan peninsula of Mexico and came to the U.S. (Texas and Oklahoma) as a heavy rain storm. Damage in Mexico was many billions of dollars, and 318 people died.

      Hurricane Andrew: This hurricane hit on August 24, 1992 in southern Florida. It then turned and hit Louisiana. More than a million people had to leave the area due to the storm. Heavy rains and tornadoes were part of the hurricane's destructive power. Andrew was the most expensive hurricane in the history of the U.S.

      Hurricane Floyd: This hurricane, which struck in September 1999, brought so much rain that 13 states were issued federal disaster declarations -- more declarations for a single event than ever before. More than $500 million of federal money was spent on helping states recover. North Carolina was hit the hardest of any state.

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    9. Re:Sounds perfect for Florida... by LWATCDR · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "these are probably more resistant than mobile homes"
      Oh that is a good baseline! Not.

      Actually the safty of the those buildings in Florida would have more to do with how well they are tied to a good foundation. 3 meters of flooding is a lot of water. There are two problems with them for normal houses.
      1. Cost Carbon fiber is expensive compaired to concret block and wood trusses. Not to mention no one knows how well they will stand up to UV for the long term. Houses should last for at least 100 years.
      2. Looks. Good greif think of what a sub divsion of those things would look like! It would be like war of the worlds.

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    10. Re:Sounds perfect for Florida... by Rei · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I agree that they'd probably handle storms quite well. And I agree about the cost issue. However, as for "length of lifespan", you don't get much less durable than wood and concrete. I'd be incredibly surprised if carbon fiber was somehow less durable. Not to mention that this is carbon fiber reinforced *plastic* - plastics have notoriously long lifespans. You'd probably have more of a concern with making the house recyclable so that it need not last forever as it might in normal circumstances.

      I think "Looks" is the number one problem. People have been predicting plastic houses for ages; few have touched them. People feel comfortable in a shelter that "breathes", that feels "solid" and "heavy", etc. It just makes you feem more comfortable. Even people who opt for "nontraditional" houses (such as dome houses, like my aunt owns) have them built out of conventional materials. Plastic in general feels a bit too alien to live in; perhaps the carbon fiber reinforced plastic isn't as bad - I don't know.

      Not to mention, imagine how much static electricty you'd build up scuffing along the floor/walls... ;)

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    11. Re:Sounds perfect for Florida... by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's no dumber than a lot of the stuff they do in coastal areas to try and make houses "hurricane proof". I used to build them, so I know more about it than I ever wanted to.

      First, three meters of water is no big deal. Three meters of water hitting your house as a storm surge is a big fucking deal. Most houses on the coast are build on sand, under the cement. Sand is good. Makes a nice foundation...Until hurricane driven tides wash it and your heavy ass house away.

      As for durability...Most modern houses aren't set to last anywhere near 100 years. Sheetrock and plywood only go so far.

      Considering what a subdivision of stilt-houses looks like now, I don't see what the difference is. What looks weirder, a normal house on stilts or a house that looks like it's SUPPOSED to be on stilts?

      Seems like a perfectly decent idea to me. Solar power is way underutilized on the coast, and god knows regular housing doesn't fare all that well.

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    12. Re:Sounds perfect for Florida... by IvoryRing · · Score: 2, Interesting
      You are right, because old wood tools and concrete structures are impossible to find.

      The main problem with most plastics is that they have no part in the natural recycling process. That doesn't mean they are structurally intact for ages. Just take a peek at an old car with a cracked plastic dashboard if you think that all plastic is always long lived. Mind you, when you get specific, there are plastics that have a long life - but in and of itself, "as used in construction, plastic is more durable than wood or concrete" is not an open and shut case.

      By the way, I want to watch you shuffle on the walls!

    13. Re:Sounds perfect for Florida... by Uggy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What kind of poor concrete house do you live in that can only withstand a category 3-4? When Georges passed over Puerto Rico in 1998, we didn't lose a single concrete house. Not a one (well except for mud slides in mountainous regions, but there's no helping that).

      The winds that hit my house were 140+ and in other areas in a direct path with the eye got even worse. San Juan metro area looked like Hiroshima afterwards. I never realized how many buildings there were with all the trees gone. But we don't have mobile homes where, and very little wood construction. Everything is concrete boxes.

      Don't know what sort of building codes you have over there, but I'd pit my house against a category 5. Not like I'd like it, but I think we could handle it.

      I guess since we live on an island, there's no place to evacuate to, so we've got build our houses tough.

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    14. Re:Sounds perfect for Florida... by LWATCDR · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Not to mention that this is carbon fiber reinforced *plastic* - plastics have notoriously long lifespans"
      In landfills they do. If you live anywhere in the south take a piece of plastic and set it outside in the sun for several months. A lot of them will get brittle and discolor.

      As making a carbon-fiber house recycleable... Reuseable is better than recycleable. A house is a house is a house. You need walls, a roof, windows, and doors. Someone pointed out that dry wall and plywood only last so long. Well plywood can last for a good long time. OSB is another story. As for dry wall. That is one of the the things you can replace when updating a house.
      Don't get me wrong I live in FL and part of me would like a poured concret home with welded steel roof trusses! A welded steel plate roof would be nice as well but probably overkill. Not to mention the problem with rust.

      You would not really need to worry about static from the walls if they are carbon fiber. You can make it conductive so you could make the house one big Fariday cage if you really wanted to :)

      Carbon fiber for home construction is interesting but not likely to happen anytime soon. Heck Buckmeinster Fuller built a house out of AL in the 40s and no one rushed to buy them :(

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    15. Re:Sounds perfect for Florida... by Guppy06 · · Score: 2, Informative

      "I believe tornado instructions include opening doors / windows on the leeward side of the house for the same reason."

      I'm pretty sure that's simply to keep the windows from breaking. A tornado's small size means you can get some truly vicious pressure differentials over a relatively short distance, and even if a tornado doesn't pass close enough by your house to knock it down, most modern houses don't leak air fast enough to avoid... well... explosive decompression.

      And you would only open one side of the house to avoid getting airflow under your roof and lifting it off, and it's usually a good idea to open the side that stuff isn't trying to come in through.

  3. What's cooler? by bobhagopian · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "The house is designed to be autonomous. It uses energy-efficient solar power as well as advanced systems for recycling and cleaning water. Another idea, now on the drawing board, is to include a system to remove pathogenic particles in the sub-micron range from the air."

    I think this is the coolest part about the house, not the ultra-light composites. Think about never having to pay an utility bill again! Sure, you can do that for just about any house, but one that's built with self-sufficiency in mind is nice.

    1. Re:What's cooler? by garcia · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Think about never having to pay an utility bill again!

      Just like our empty dreams of VoIP causing the untimely death of the telcos I have a feeling that the utility companies would have nothing better to do than find a way to charge us for harnessing the sun's energy and recycling our drinking water.

    2. Re:What's cooler? by llevity · · Score: 4, Funny
      "Think about never having to pay an utility bill again!"

      I thought about this so much, I even tried it. It was great until they shut my power off.

    3. Re:What's cooler? by Woody77 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      California and PG&E have programs for net-0 houses. Houses which pull from the grid at night/in the winter, and feed back into the grid during the day.

      It helps the utilities by lowering their production costs, and it helps the home-owners by decreasing their usage.

      The deal is that if you produce as much in a month as you consume, you pay nothing for service. Over the year, this is very unlikely, due to cloudy days and wintertime lack of sun.

      Houses with electro-mechanical meters will literally spin backwards and production negates consumption.

      The other big benefit is that hot summer days, the days with the most solar power generation capability are also the days of the highest use due to air conditioning loads.

  4. Space age? by vuvewux · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wasn't the 1960s the "space age"? If so, I live in a space age house!

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    1. Re:Space age? by Vengeance · · Score: 3, Funny

      Don't forget the avacado-color appliances.

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  5. The structure, ok, but... by Solder+Fumes · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So a light, shell-like structure would just ride the earthquake, as it does not have enough inertia to generate destructive internal stresses. But does this mean that anyone and anything inside the building would be shaken like beans in a maraca?

    1. Re:The structure, ok, but... by Vengeance · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'd imagine that the shaking would be rather similar to that experienced on open ground, or at least it would be on the ground floor of a small structure. As I understand it, the shaking may be disconcerting but not generally dangerous, as long as it's not shaking loose heavy things above you.

      Of course, if a huge crack opens in the earth, taking you to the Land of the Lost, all bets are off.

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    2. Re:The structure, ok, but... by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 3, Funny

      You've just inadvertantly suggested a huge market in "aftermarket hydraulics" for these things.

      Low-rider Space Houses.

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    3. Re:The structure, ok, but... by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 4, Funny

      You'd still need to strap down your water heater and bookshelves, yes. They aren't the biggest hazard. In fact the joke among seismic engineers is "Earthquakes don't kill people, buildings kill people".

  6. Wow, Europe sounds great. by funny-jack · · Score: 4, Funny

    In its current design the SpaceHouse can withstand vibrations from earthquakes of up to 7 on the Richter scale, wind speeds of up to 220 km/h and up to 3 metres of flooding - specifications that came out of discussions with the insurance industry for a typical European location.

    Wha-aah? Wow, that backpacking trip through Europe is looking a lot less attractive than I thought. No wonder they tried so hard to discover new worlds!

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  7. the best feature... by mmmmmhotpants · · Score: 3, Funny

    All new SpaceHouses come with the band Kraftwerk.

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    1. Re:the best feature... by identity0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bah, that's better than that abandoned industrial site I bought in Germany, it came with Rammstein :P

  8. A problem I see. by Moocowsia · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As a ferniture deliverer I see a problem. How the heck do you get large things like couches in it? A crane?

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    1. Re:A problem I see. by Wireless+Joe · · Score: 4, Funny

      If it's really like the Jetson's house, you just press the button on the side of the couch, and it folds up like a briefcase. Then you just pick it up by it's handle, step onto the moving sidewalk and wait for the clear tube to suck you up into the living room.

    2. Re:A problem I see. by thrillbert · · Score: 2, Funny

      As a ferniture deliverer I see a problem

      For just a second I read the above line and wondered how a /. reader could be a furniture delivery person... then I looked at his spelling..

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  9. Space Tubes by Doesn't_Comment_Code · · Score: 4, Funny

    All I want in my space aged buildings is a pneumatic tube for transportation - like a big version of what they have at the bank. Need to go to work? Jump in the pod and push SEND. Want to go the store? Jump in the pod and push SEND. Convenient and fun.

    Give me that, and I can die happy.

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    1. Re:Space Tubes by maynard · · Score: 3, Funny

      All I want ... a pneumatic tube for transportation - like a big version of what they have at the bank."

      "Give me that, and I can die happy."

      As you most assuredly will, after exiting the tube at high speeds and smashing head first into a wall. I've seen Futurama and know the pitfalls. Be warned! --M

  10. Re:Antartic...Space? by l4m3z0r · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because that technology was designed by there space program, doesn't mean that the space program has to waste time manufacturering it or using resources in order to put it in antartica. For instance, I doubt NASA is currently involved in the manufacture of Tang even though they developed the stuff. This won't waste any money of the space programs its just using technologies they developed(plans, documentation and practices on how to make that etc etc.)

  11. Insurance industry by Yokaze · · Score: 2, Funny

    In its current design the SpaceHouse can withstand earthquakes of up to 7 on the Richter scale, wind speeds of up to 220 km/h and up to 3 metres of flooding - specifications that came out of discussions with the insurance industry for a typical European location.


    It seems to me, living in a typical European location is a dangerous thing to do :).
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  12. Good idea by macshune · · Score: 4, Interesting

    These houses totally look cool and the design is awesome, but they use exotic materials that are probably only produced in huge quantities when large institutions have the money to get someone to cook up a batch. Carbon Fiber Reinforced Plastic (more commonly, just Carbon Fiber)? Can't buy that at Home Depot, last time I checked:)

    It's a great exercise and it's exciting to the see the future take shape (literally!), but until regular folks can buy up some of this stuff to build homes out of, that's all it's gonna be.

    1. Re:Good idea by ColoradoAuthor · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And where do you get repair materials, when the roof is punctured (by hail, or space debris, or whatever)?

      Sounds like geodesic domes, hyperbolic parabaloid roofs, etc. These structures work okay in places like Antarctica, but for typical residential use they fail three important tests: 1) Will my local building inspector--who only understands sticks-n-stones construction--approve the thing without a ton of paperwork and appeals? 2) Will my rectangular furniture fit? and 3) Can I repair it when it breaks?

  13. Re:really really cool by mdf356 · · Score: 3, Informative
    It's cold, but weight and insulative properties aren't strongly correlated. One of the best insulators in the world is AeroGel which is practically as light as air.

    And from TFA, the structure they're talking about can withstand 220 km/h (140 mph) winds.

    So I'd say it's pretty sturdy. Lightweight means less inertia which means it's easier to withstand some strong forces.

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  14. Earthquakes, sure... by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Insightful
    will be used to make a self-supporting lightweight shell-like structure able to withstand severe earthquakes.

    How about typhoons and hurricanes?

    There's some housing in the Florida keys built on concrete pilars which look a bit like this, except they're square, built to withstand trailer shreading winds and stay above the water.

    I wonder how durable in extreme cold this stuff would be, particularly in cold climates, as much aluminum developes stress fractures. More surface area on the outside means more area to insulate, too.

    BTW, if you've ever considered living in a geodesic home, consider that the roofing costs about 3x what a regular house does. I wonder what mantenance would be like on these in the long term.

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  15. Tsk, no imagination (Re:Space Tubes) by Aumaden · · Score: 2, Funny
    Tsk! Tsk I say!

    Where's your imagination?

    Pneumatic tubes? Pshaw!

    Matter transporters!

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  16. Thats why the Japanese built paper houses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Because light is better than strong and heavy. In a gentle earthquake still most of the injuries are caused by fixtures and fittings flying around or objects falling from shelves. This increases but with the strength of the quake but almost all deaths are caused by crushing or suffocation when a structure collapses. Yes you would be flying around like seeds in a pod but unless your computer monitor decides to hit you back for all the times you whacked it then you can at least know you are going to survive with a few bruises.

  17. Sounds familiar by nytes · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Of course, you could also jump into your time machine and visit the house of the future at Disneyland, circa 1957.

    It was made so well that the wrecking ball just bounced off of it when they tried to demolish it. They had to bring in a crew with saws.

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  18. Meet George Jetson by MikeMacK · · Score: 2, Funny

    And they can get there in their flying cars. slashdot.org

  19. Some plus points by kabz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, the design goals that support these idea include :

    - must be assembled in situ. So transporation dictates that the components must be fairly lightweight. Starting out lightweight also means that additional highly effective insulation materials can be added to minimise heat loss to the environment.
    - must withstand cold. Space proven materials can already stand up to the extremes of cold.
    - aerodynamic design. Carbon reinforced plastic is great for forming into non-flat shapes. Note that all the pictures in the article show structures that look like they are designed to have low wind resistance when compared to traditional cabin shapes.
    - non-polluting at end of life. Lightweight structures that may be dissassembled and released from their ground tethers are better than traditional buildings that may have to use concrete foundations.

    I wonder if this style of building is something that will spread to normal life. If it could be made low cost, then it would sure beat having a mobile home !!

    Come to think of it, the Texas coast, just south of Galveston has some houses that look a bit similar to this, though the ones I've seen look more like they are made of sheet metal.

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  20. the ESA hard at work by j1mmy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe they'll name this one the Beagle III. I hope the residents enjoy disappearing into the Martian wasteland.

  21. no stairs? by ColonBlow · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's going to be tough moving in with just a ladder. How am I supposed to get my waterbed up there?

    It would be cool to park under your house though. Then you can just slide down a pole to your car every morning, batman style.

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  22. revolutionary thinking, indeed by karb · · Score: 2, Funny
    Scientist 1 : Can you think of any problems with residential housing that sits 15 feet in the air?

    Scientist 2 : Why, no! Brilliant! Maybe if humanity comes together we could build standard residential housing that sits hundreds of feet in the air for no reason!

    Scientist 1 and 2 : (imagine where they will make space in their office for the Nobel prizes)

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  23. Re:not for California by pjt33 · · Score: 2, Funny

    *does the currency conversion* About 350 quid for a house? I might consider moving to the US after all.

  24. Deja vu by ptomblin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It looks so much like a Buckminister Fuller Dymaxion House that it's scary. Not the one that's in the Henry Ford Museum, but a different design that suspended the whole structure from a central pole. It was also designed to be as self-sufficient as possible, and designed from light-weight materials so it could be air-lifted into place.

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    1. Re:Deja vu by shis-ka-bob · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Yup, I was thinking that too. I never really understood why Bucky was so concerned about the weight of a house. For compressive loads, a good cheap concrete seems quite reasonable. If you are talking about an aircraft, then cost is a function of weight. But I don't buy that arguement for a house. You can already drive a mobile home to a lot and install it an afternoon, but mobile homes are not considered 'premium' because of their mobility. Can any Slashdotter explain why lightweight is an asset in a house?

      I can understand the 'money as function of weight' argument for an Antartic station that is air lifted, but that is rather exceptional. I'm wanting to understand why Bucky's design never took off (pun intented.)

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    2. Re:Deja vu by BelugaParty · · Score: 3, Interesting
      As the other poster pointed out, Buck was concerned with air dropping, if not the entire structure, then the materials. Also, one of his more wild eyed theories was to have geodesic spheres and domes held up by poles, like veggies on a skewer (or a sky city). He felt such vertical construction would limit the suburban sprawl of the time and still allow each family to have their own 'house'.

      His designs never really 'took off' because they required a lot of change in habits and expectations from the consumer eg: his houses included water misters instead of water faucets and showers; and his target market was, in his own mind, people who need very basic shelter and very basic sanitary utilities, so he paid little attention to decor or style of the time. His designs also did not allow for easy expansion or remodeling.

      I visited a geodesic dome, built on the same lightweight principles as the dymaxion house, and found it to be very elegant in design. From the living room and kitchen at the bottom floor, there was a beautiful spiral staircase that went to the top (about 4 stories up). The various rooms of the house were vertically staggerred along the walls, with the master bedroom overlooking it all. When you looked down from here, it was like being in cloud city or something. Three things to note though: its not a good place for privacy, it could get noisy, and the temperature at the top was considerably warmer than at the bottom. Still, I like some of his designs, but they are really for the spartan/stoic among us.

  25. Oh, please! by Hooptie · · Score: 3, Insightful
    That is same as complaining that the the Mars rovers, Spirit and Opportunity, are worthless because they wont carry a family of four. Look at the application for which this structure is designed. How often do they get 220+kph winds in Antarctica? How often do they get 7.0 quakes?

    TFA does not say that they advocate replacing ALL current building methods with this. If you did RTFA you would have noticed this:

    In its current design the SpaceHouse can withstand vibrations from earthquakes of up to 7 on the Richter scale, wind speeds of up to 220 km/h and up to 3 metres of flooding - specifications that came out of discussions with the insurance industry for a typical European location.
    (emphasis mine)

    This was NOT designed for Florida, it was designed for Europe/Antarctica.

    Hooptie

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  26. The Problem With Housing Innovation in the USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The problem with housing innovation in the USA is not a lack of ideas for cheaper and better ways of doing things, it is local and municipal building codes and the multitude of construction trade unions that support their enforcement and expansion. In many areas, housing construction work will -not- get the building inspector's apporval unless he is certain that it was done by union laborers, and they are not interested in anything [pre-fab] that drastically cuts down on their earnings.

  27. Signature is a troll by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 2, Insightful

    >10 out of 10 Terrorists agree - Anybody but Bush in 2004

    A troll, because it's so easy to find out what the terrorists have to say about the man who let bin Laden get away.

    For example, from the June 3 2004 issue of The Economist:

    "A communiqué from a Saudi jihadi group expresses the hope that George Bush will be re-elected because his "haste to use force, his lack of wisdom and religious fanaticism have roused the Islamic nation"."

    If that sig were a legitimate political statement instead of a troll it would say something like "Afghanistan is free of the Taliban", "Cheney is better qualified than Edwards", "2/3 of al Qaueda's leaders are now in Guantanamo or in Hell", "Support traditional values -- vote Bush", or something along those lines.

    Sorry, but nonsense offends me.

  28. oblig. video game reference by LiquidMind · · Score: 4, Funny

    All your Antarctic spage-age house are belong to us.

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  29. Re:Antartic...Space? by IvoryRing · · Score: 2, Interesting

    NASA developed Tang? That's funny, I thought General Foods developed Tang in 1957 (original USPTO trademark registration #0670697, filed Oct 16, 1957, renewal [current?] #1974439), and NASA was signed into law in 1958.

  30. Cow vagina and lentils by serutan · · Score: 2, Funny

    Rule 1: Never read Slashdot while you're eating.
    Rule 2: See rule 1.