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Kong in Concert - Donkey Kong Country Arrangements

Digital Coma writes "Kong in Concert, a project directed by myself and coordinated by familiar artists of the unofficial game music arrangement community, has been released at http://dkcproject.ocremix.org and spotlighted at OverClocked ReMix. Its purpose is to pay respects to the excellent Donkey Kong Country SNES soundtrack and honor its composers with 22 rearrangements (or ReMixes) of every song from the game in high quality MP3 and OGG. We also have a BitTorrent distribution of the album's whole WAV compilation. If you like the idea of free, non-commercial videogame remixes, check us out."

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  1. WooHoo! by grunt107 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Where's my banana-shaped lighter?? ("Freebird, I mean "FreeChimp"!!)

  2. One Question: by goldspider · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Did you have to pay any kind of lisencing fees to Nintendo? If so, how much did that cost?

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    1. Re:One Question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They have no licensing because they don't follow the US copyright law in the first place. They figure that since they're not making any money directly or indirectly off their "derivative works," they won't get any legal trouble. Personally, I think it would be a disaster if Nintendo took legal action. As far as I know there have been positive responses from other original video game composers. Some of them even contributed their own arrangements. But corporations are not people..

    2. Re:One Question: by aaron+p.+matthews · · Score: 5, Informative

      Hi, I'm one of the guys who worked on this project. (I did the ice cave track)

      This project is not licensed. We didn't ask for permission.
      This is a project done by fans, for fans.

      Nintendo is 100% within their rights to send us a cease-and-desist order if they choose to. However, Nintendo has shown no animosity towards such projects in the past and I suppose they won't show any towards this one either.
      But who knows? just enjoy the music. :)

      cheers.

  3. Quite Cool.. by GolgOSatsumA · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Need some clarification, though; does this mean my band can do a cool cover version of the theme without worry?

  4. Free? by ideatrack · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I know this is probably a very simple question, but if you're taking someone else's work and remixing it, doesn't that mean you have some obligation to the original composer? What's to prevent Nintendo from sending in the lawyers to stop this?

    Don't get me wrong, I don't think this is a bad idea or anything, (it's not my thing) but just wanted some clarification...

    1. Re:Free? by cjpez · · Score: 4, Insightful
      (I'm not them, of course, but...)
      doesn't that mean you have some obligation to the original composer?
      Yep.
      What's to prevent Nintendo from sending in the lawyers to stop this?
      Nothing.

      It's the same situation as ProdigyRemixed.com... I believe that getting permission from the artists whose work has been sampled is quite mandatory in order to stay in compliance with the law. A lot of this underground remixing-for-free stuff seems to do pretty well and not get prosecuted, but you're right, there's really nothing stopping the lawyers from (at the least) sending a C+D, or (at the worst) suing their asses into oblivion.

      Here's hoping they don't do that, though. If they're smart they'll realize that, while it's a clear case of copyright infringement, there's no way this is going to cut into their actual product sales at all.

    2. Re:Free? by SCHecklerX · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Interesting, I just read of something similar happening in the demoscene yesterday when I decided to rebuild my old mod collection. Apparently there was some guy who was performing purple motion's (future crew) old stuff, and selling it as his own.

      More about it here: http://www.modarchive.com/rippers.shtml

  5. Draft CowboyNeal... by D-Cypell · · Score: 4, Funny

    Perhaps the /. community could support this project by having Cowboy Neal stand on a tall ledge and throw barrells at people.

  6. I never realized there was a following... by Andorion · · Score: 3, Funny

    I had no idea other people thought the DKC music was good - I used to leave my SNES on, sit idle in various levels, and blast the music through the stereo with the TV off.

    No joke.

    1. Re:I never realized there was a following... by WWWWolf · · Score: 2, Informative

      My first journey to the cool new-fangled music compression systems was when I tried to record DKC music through the sound card line-in. I compressed the files in Linux using the MPEG reference encoder to Layer II at 64 kbps. The songs fit nicely on floppy =)

      Can't remember exactly when this was, but this was back in the Era Before Napster... anyway, it was in the time when the king in the MP3 encoding was l3enc, shareware, the only alternative to use - and I was desperately waiting for a GPL'd MP3 encoder. Back then, no one even made a big deal out of patent issues...

      Those were the days.

      But I digress. The point was, there is a code in DKC that puts you in the music-test mode - I used this to play the music for purposes of recording stuff. In start-up, move the cursor to Erase Game and hit Down,A,R,B,Y,Down,A,Y (DARBYDAY) and hit Select to change songs. (I even had to cheat and look at the web myself. Was fooled to think the code was DYDDY, but that was the bonus stage trick =)

      These days, the best way is, of course, downloading the SPCs.

  7. Game music by Zorilla · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is one game that I believe had underrated music. I'll have to check this out when I get home. OCRemix has a streaming radio station at oc.ormgas.com, if you don't mind all the Final Fantasy and Sonic music they play.

    Also, for Commodore/Atari ST fans, there's Nectarine Radio.

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    1. Re:Game music by spellraiser · · Score: 3, Informative
      I feel obliged to plug one of my favorite bands here.

      If you haven't heard of Machinae Supremacy yet, I recommend you check them out. They are a very cool Swedish band who mix different styles, play with synths a lot, and are self-professed gaming nuts.

      In the current context, The Great Gianna Sisters is particularily salient. It's a remix of / tribute to the theme song of the C64 game of the same name. Excellent stuff.

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  8. Relics of the Chozo by D'Arque+Bishop · · Score: 5, Informative

    This isn't the first time the Overclocked Remix guys have come together to make a tribute album for a Super Nintendo game. I highly recommend checking out Relics of the Chozo, which is their soundtrack tribute to the game Super Metroid. VERY good stuff, if I do say so myself.

    Just my $.02...

    1. Re:Relics of the Chozo by gpinzone · · Score: 2, Informative

      Get the WAV files from, the Bittorrent and encode them yourself. Quite frankly, I don't trust other people to encode MP3s properly. I use the recommended LAME from Hydrogen Audio.

    2. Re:Relics of the Chozo by screwballicus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This isn't the first time the Overclocked Remix guys have come together to make a tribute album for a Super Nintendo game.

      Indeed, and that's why it's so strange this got a Slashdot story. ocremix.org/remix.overclocked.org has been hosting any number of similar projects for years now (since 2000 at least).

      A story to the effect, "hey look, someone remixed an SNES soundtrack!" at this point seems a bit silly.

  9. Re:DKC... by mozingod · · Score: 5, Funny

    Because DKC had such a ground breaking storyline?

  10. " 22 rearrangements (or ReMixes) of every song " by Andorion · · Score: 2, Funny

    FYI: It's 1 re-arrangement of each of the 22 songs, not 22 of each song like I anticipated when I followed the link =P

  11. No FLACs? by abischof · · Score: 3, Informative

    We also have a BitTorrent distribution of the album's whole WAV compilation.

    If their goal is to allow people to burn a CD of their work (which would appear to be the case), why not distribute FLACs as well? For those unaware, FLAC is an open source codec which stands for "Free Lossless Audio Codec". It's like WAVs in that it's lossless but the files are much smaller since they're compressed :).
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    1. Re:No FLACs? by Venner · · Score: 2, Interesting
      For those unaware, FLAC is an open source codec which stands for "Free Lossless Audio Codec". It's like WAVs in that it's lossless but the files are much smaller since they're compressed :).
      Eh, not much smaller. About 1/3 to 1/2 the size of the wave. Still, that's 2-3x the number of losslessly ripped albums you can store. I rip FLAC for my favorite albums, and Ogg for everything else. And yes, I do hear the difference over by 24/96 sound card, nice HK receiver, & good speakers*.

      *my friend had me do a blind listening test & I picked out the FLAC over the [256kbps nominal] ogg 5/6 times.

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  12. Universal slashdot translated summary by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "If you like the idea of free, non-commercial videogame remixes, check us out."

    translates to:

    "If you want to hear the one genre of music guaranteed not to get you laid, check us out."

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  13. Was the concert produced by... by scotay · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...P. Diddy Kong?

  14. If you want the entire original soundtrack... by Andorion · · Score: 4, Informative

    Try here: http://www.zophar.net/zsnes/spc/

    Then go here for the Winamp SPC plugin: http://www.zophar.net/utilities/spc.html

  15. Licensing issues by davidwr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I hate to be a wet blanket, and a redundant one at that, but unfortunately, this is a derivative work and as such the original owners can demand royalties.

    The USA has a concept called "mandatory licensing" when it comes to music. This means for some uses, such as using clips from many pieces in a compilation work or playing a song on the air, the owners cannot STOP you outright. However, they can demand payment.

    There was a case in the '40s or '50s or maybe early '60s where an artist took clips from a bunch of other songs and made a compilation work. The rights-holders of the original works sued to block it. The new work's artist claimed free speech and claimed Congress could not create a copyright law that would infringe his right to be creative. The US Supreme Court basically said no, Congress could not create a law to STOP him from being creative, but that the original artists were entitled to compensation.

    Source: Some radio program in the last year or two. I think I heard it on a public radio station but don't quote me on that.

    The bottom line:
    Assuming this is still the law, Nintendo may come after you, but if you've got the money to pay them off you can make them go away and keep distributing your creative work.
    Nintendo may be able to prevent you from distributing in or to certain other countries, I don't know the law worldwide.

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  16. Re:mario music videos??? by kdgibson · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can find them under the videos link at http://www.ebaumsworld.com

  17. C64 Remix scene pays royalties by Ravenger · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Commodore 64 remix scene is very active, in fact there was a live C64 remix concert in London, UK last Saturday (Sept 11th), and a fantastic event it was too.

    It was organised by a guy called Chris Abbott, and his company C64Audio.com now represents many of original 1980's C64 musicians and licenses their music. To date he's paid over £20,000 in royalites to the original musicians.

    So the C64 scene shows you can have a vibrant remix community, whilst giving credit to the original composers and paying them royalties.

  18. Australian law by DMJC-L · · Score: 2, Informative

    under australian copyright law afaik, this is legal as long as a maximum of 10% of the original work is used, anything more and they'll owe rights.

  19. Need a Mechanical License by Webapprentice · · Score: 2, Informative

    For Project Majestic Mix, a fan-tribute album for Final Fantasy music (http://www.kfssstudios.com/), the people needed to get what is called a mechanical license, which is a royalty-based license when someone wants play rearranged/remixed versions of the original music.

  20. RIAA by Venner · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Here's hoping they don't [sue], though. If they're smart they'll realize that, while it's a clear case of copyright infringement, there's no way this is going to cut into their actual product sales at all.


    Sure. 'Cause the RIAA feels the same way about P2P filesharing, I'm sure. I'll buy that piracy - real piracy - in Asia & Eastern Europe is cutting into their [hugely inflated] profit margin, but not P2P, remixes. etc.
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  21. Re:DKC... by myc_lykaon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Didn't you see that academic paper? 'Hermeneutics and the Narrative Discourse in Donkey Kong Country - A Feminist Perspective'.

  22. Commodore64 videogame remixes by dabadab · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you happen to be a C= fan, then check out http://remix.kwed.org/ for some great stuff.
    There's also a webradio of this stuff: Slay Radio

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    1. Re:Commodore64 videogame remixes by quantax · · Score: 2, Informative

      A far geekier concert went down this weekend with c64 remxixes: http://www.backintimelive.com/ Concert with all live c64 remixes, unfortunately for the last time. Slay was good enough to broadcast the concert live for us non-brits (or poor folk).

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  23. As I was listening to the music... by NeoGeo64 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I downloaded all the tracks directly (BT was going very slow, and I'm impatient) and am listening to them right now. I'm impressed. Some of them don't sound like they were done on synths, they sound orchestrated.

    Anyways, since all the tracks from the game are in this mix, why not hack or devise some way to be able to play the orginal game to this new music?

    I've done some light ROM hacking before and I don't even know if this is possible, but I'm just saying, it would be cool to have the new music in the game. It would certainly add some new depth.

  24. Re:WTF? by Kogase · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I doubt a group making and giving away video game remixes would pay for an ad on Slashdot. And besides, computers have been around for a while, but you probably won't be complaining when they anounce the next 128-bit Ultra-Super-Duper-Amanamegatron CPU.

  25. Sound sample conservation by Zorilla · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The one thing I found interesting about Donkey Kong Country's music is that a lot of the samples that were sound effects in the game were also music samples. These included the piano, which was the jingle when you got an extra life as well as the lead instrument in the first level. Another example I can think of is the heavy, metallic sounds in the industrial level music which also served as the sound the mine cart made when you landed back on the tracks.

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  26. No, they didn't. by Smoke824 · · Score: 2, Informative

    NIN never did a Zelda cover. Look it up. Someone else just renamed their work to show it off. It's a common thing on P2P.

    People on there also seem to think that Weird Al did every funny song ever, and System of a Down did a Zelda remix too(They didn't, the original's on OCR and has a statement from the band itself that it's not them)

    Hell, Terra in Black has been credited to Madonna a few times on P2P networks. There's tons of other examples as well.

  27. The only postive post by genner · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can't believe you people, you call yourself nerds and dont' even have one nice thing to say about this. These people are releaseing some awsome music.Are you such slaves to the top 40 charts that you can't see that? I for one welcome our DJ Pretzel overlord.

  28. Did anyone read this as by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Donkey Kong: Country Arrangements?

    Whew, for a second I thought Donkey Kong was going to be singing Achey Brakey heart or something. What a relief.

  29. Re:Pong Symphony in blip minor by PhoenixFlare · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you think all game music is repetitive MIDI stuff on a level with Pong...Then you haven't listened to the right games. There are many, many titles out there with wonderful music - often RPG's(Final Fantasy series, Xenogears, Chrono Trigger, etc.), and some of the newer fighting and action games will have decent rock-type soundtracks as well.

    Experiment a bit, listen to tracks on places like OCRemix, you might be suprised what you find.

  30. nope... by aaron+p.+matthews · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm guessing this is a buddy of someone on slashdot or VA, or they are paying for the advertisement.

    well as one of the guys who worked on this project, I can tell you now, none of us know any of the slashdot editors.

    I actually urged the project leader not to submit this story to slashdot -- because I've been here a while and I didn't feel this was slashdot material.

    Looks like I was wrong! Maybe Hemos is a DKC fan :)

    cheers.

  31. Some more... by Yoweigh116 · · Score: 2, Informative
    I've got an insanely large collection of video game remix MP3s, mostly from OCRemix. I've got a few suggestions for anyone interested in this sort of stuff:
    • The Minibosses, of course.
    • Check out Project X. They've got full renditions of the Mega Man 2 and 3 soundtracks.
    • This has already been mentioned, but Relics of the Chozo is an excellent cover of the Super Metroid soundtrack.
    • Poke around at OC Remix. You're sure to find something you like there.