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Warm Offices Boost Productivity

bluelip writes "It looks like the real reason for offshoring is corporations looking for warmer weather. Instead of paying the energy bills to crank up the heat in the office to a more productive temperature, the offices are moving to warmer areas. This article shows a 44% error reduction and 150% increase in productivity for those working in warmer offices. Will this increase in output be enough to convince my boss to pay for us to vacation-commute from a tropical island?"

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  1. Too warm? by Tomahawk · · Score: 4, Informative

    68F = 20C
    77F = 25C
    (for those of use that use Celcius)

    25C/77F is very warm. I prefer to work around 21C/70F. Any warmer than that and I'd be falling asleep. Certainly /my/ productivity goes way down when I'm asleep.

    T.

    1. Re:Too warm? by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I get tired faster when it's warm. Also, my contacts tend to start losing focus, which happens when I'm very tired - so I feel like sleeping.

      I work best when it's cooler - about 65-68. I also prefer a darker environment and plenty of rest. Since I'm a night owl, trying to force my sleep rhythm to match the office hours isn't very productive.

    2. Re:Too warm? by KDan · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, I agree too. That sounds like a totally stupid study. Maybe they should mention what sort of work they were doing. If the work was to collect drops of sweat in a bucket, then 25 would definitely be more productive. For programming, at 25 my brain slows down to zero and I keep on losing track of what I'm doing, and end up spending all my time browsing the web.

      It shouldn't be cold enough to shiver, but it definitely shouldn't be warm either!

      Daniel

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    3. Re:Too warm? by Tomahawk · · Score: 4, Informative

      Google does that all for you do.

      Do a Google search for
      'convert 77F to C'

      And it will convert almost everything as well.

      T.

    4. Re:Too warm? by francisew · · Score: 2, Funny

      In my lab it's often below 17C / 62F or above 27C / 80F.

      No wonder it takes us so long to graduate...

    5. Re:Too warm? by Frnknstn · · Score: 4, Informative

      They did, RTFA.

      The only type of 'work' they tested was typing. This does cause one to question the validity of the sweeping productivity statements made.

      Still, I definately work best at around 25deg C. The freezing office I work in makes my fingers to stiff to type properly.

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    6. Re:Too warm? by tambo · · Score: 5, Insightful
      For programming, at 25 my brain slows down to zero and I keep on losing track of what I'm doing, and end up spending all my time browsing the web.

      25 degrees C is uncomfortably warm if you're wearing a shirt and tie, or full battle gear (suit), as is typical of my law firm and many other professional groups.

      But 25 degrees C is damn perfect if you're wearing comfortable clothing, like shorts, a T-shirt, and flip-flops. By no coincidence, I'm most productive when I'm comfortable, which includes how I'm dressed.

      I hope that this starts a trend back to more casual dress. We were headed there in 1999, but the shock waves of the .com bust produced a backlash to heavy, formal clothing. Hopefully we can resurrect the previous trend.

      - David Stein

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    7. Re:Too warm? by majid_aldo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Any warmer than that and I'd be falling asleep. Certainly /my/ productivity goes way down when I'm asleep.

      you shouldn't feel sleepy if you get enough sleep in the first place.

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    8. Re:Too warm? by Larsie · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is completely counter-intuitive. Scandinavian employees are much more productive than their mediteranean counterparts.

      I myself prefer a temperature of 15 degrees Celsius.

    9. Re:Too warm? by david.given · · Score: 5, Funny
      And it will convert almost everything as well.

      > CONVERT LEAD INTO GOLD

      Definition of convert - WordReference.com Dictionary...

      Darn. And I thought Google could do everything.

    10. Re:Too warm? by dOoDuStInK · · Score: 3, Insightful

      2 comments

      1. Honeywell, top maker of vac units and controls recommends temperatures of 76-78 degrees for low-activity office environments; check out the website they offer a very handy climate tool. This is also right on keel with the energy department's guidelines.
      2. How many of the people complain that this is too warm:
      a. are overweight, or
      b. smoke, or
      c. drink warm beverages and not the recommended 8 glasses of water a day, or
      d. have high blood pressure, or
      e. feel sleepy because they aren't getting the recommended 7-9 hours of sleep at night, or
      f. not interested in what they are doing enough to stay awake.

      It's a darn shame that healthy, wealthy, and wise people who have a controlled and healthy life need to be concerned with too cold at work and suffer because of any combination above.

    11. Re:Too warm? by shadow303 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I thought it was more interesting that they performed the test in Florida. People down there have a much different idea of cold than those of us up north. My brain shuts down when it gets to 77, but they seem to find it quite comfortable.

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    12. Re:Too warm? by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 3, Funny

      Back in highschool we had a couple converts from florida (in western NC) in band...out marching we would rejoice (we being the native NC'ers) when it got down in the low 70s because you could bust ass and not break a sweat...the two new kids were in ski jackets by then.

      OTOH they took the heat much better

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    13. Re:Too warm? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I find I'm much more productive when I can where shorts and nothing else. I don't get nearly as many people interrupting me when they can see just how hairy my body is. ;)

      So you're literally a code monkey

    14. Re:Too warm? by egomaniac · · Score: 4, Funny

      2. How many of the people complain that this is too warm:
      a. are overweight, or
      b. smoke, or
      c. drink warm beverages and not the recommended 8 glasses of water a day, or
      d. have high blood pressure, or
      e. feel sleepy because they aren't getting the recommended 7-9 hours of sleep at night, or
      f. not interested in what they are doing enough to stay awake.


      a: no
      b: no
      c: the 8 glasses of water a day thing is an urban legend
      d: no
      e: no
      f: no

      And yet I'm comfortable at 70F and miserable at 78F. Furthermore, if you're cold, you can dress warmer. If I'm hot, my options are much more limited -- stripping naked at one's workplace tends to have negative repurcussions.

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    15. Re:Too warm? by Erik+Hollensbe · · Score: 2

      How about just letting me work from home, and I'll put in 12 even on an 80 hour salary because I don't have to deal with the commute or the constant interruptions.

      Thanks,

      Your employee.

  2. Bundling up is an option... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...but it does nothing to help with cold fingers. And when my fingers get cold, they get stiff. When my fingers get stiff, I can't type as well.

    Common sense, really.

  3. Warm??? by strictfoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Were they studying offices full of women only? Seriously. Women love to play with the office furnistat, even if they've been told not to 100 times.

    The worst thing in the world is to be working in an office that's too warm. It's just horrible.

    Here's a secret people: if you're too cold, wear warming clothing! If I'm too hot, I can't take off all of my clothes (and keep my job).

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    1. Re:Warm??? by gclef · · Score: 5, Funny

      Add another problem: warmer temps mean lighter/less female clothing. The effects of this on male productivity should be obvious.

    2. Re:Warm??? by strictfoo · · Score: 5, Informative

      Women, on average, have a slower metabolism than men. This is due to them having a higher, on average, percentage of body fat (due to the natural features that women have). Thus, women produce less heat than men, on average, and like their environment to be slightly warmer.

      There is nothing wrong with pointing out the phyiscal differences between sexes.

      I have never worked at a company where there was an issue with men turning the heat up, which causes discomfort for others, just because they were a little too cold.

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    3. Re:Warm??? by Exocet · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I can state that, through direct observation that the women in the office I'm in like their heat. In fact, they almost all have space heaters under their desks. It's hell working on their computers; I always get way too hot.

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    4. Re:Warm??? by gosand · · Score: 2, Informative
      Were they studying offices full of women only? Seriously. Women love to play with the office furnistat, even if they've been told not to 100 times.

      What is even worse is when someone (I won't say women) adjusts the thermostat in the computer lab because they are too cold. Computer labs are SUPPOSED to be cold. You crank the ambient temp up to 75 degrees F and you are asking for trouble with the servers. It is amazing that some people in the software industry don't realize this.

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    5. Re:Warm??? by blackmonday · · Score: 4, Informative

      The funniest thing about that? Most office thermostats are placebos.

  4. omg, Canada is doomed! by theluckyleper · · Score: 3, Funny

    Or perhaps Canadians should just wait for global warming to kick in, and reap the 44% in error reduction rewards!

    Go burn those fossil fuels, Canucks!

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    1. Re:omg, Canada is doomed! by beyonddeath · · Score: 2, Funny

      Up here in Canada its generally accepted taht it is not possible to heat any room above freezing by conventional means (forced air etc) so we all bought pentium 4's

  5. Stupid study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Studies like this are as old as the hills, but horribly inaccurate.

    In the end, if you wish to increase productivity dim the lights. And monitor the results, productivity will go up. Increase the lighting a week later, productivity will again go up. Keep this up until productivity exceeds 100% efficiency.

    I'm only half kidding.

  6. The Suits by dykofone · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I always assumed offices were so cold to keep all of the "suits" comfortable as they went about their corporate level day. I know I'd certainly be sweating having to wear a coat inside while showing some Japanese investors around.

    Which is why I doubt the AC is gonna be lowered anytime soon. It would be a battle between HR and upper management, and while certainly a glorious battle it would be, uppper management usually wins.

    1. Re:The Suits by terrab0t · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Suit wearers are definitely one group keeping the temperature set low, but there is a larger factor at play.

      I think the major reason offices are intentionally kept cold and drafty is that the vast majority of office workers drink coffee. I've worked in several different offices, some large, some small. I was always getting cold sitting still in my chair all day and ended up wearing several layers of clothing. I actually kept a sweater at the office because I didn't need it anywhere else. I eventually realised that one thing myself and all the other sweater wearers had in common was that we didn't drink coffee like the everybody else in the office.

      The funniest moment after this realisation was watching three coffee drinkers ponder curiousely over our cold problem while sipping their drinks. "Maybe there's a draft over his desk?", "It could be that window he's next to...", "I bet he has bad circulation, old people get like that.", and so on. All the while sipping their fourth daily cup of a hot drink they new full well we stayed away from.

      There may be other reasons, but if you see somebody at an office bundled up or just shivering in their seat, I'll bet you 2 to 1 odds they're one of the few who don't take the office drug regularily.

  7. Warm = Productivity?? by Egonis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I am quite the opposite, as warm or hot weather makes me unable to focus...

    Between 18 and 16 Degrees Celsuis are perfect for me, then again, I do live in Canada.

  8. 100% by slimak · · Score: 4, Interesting
    At 77 degrees Fahrenheit, the workers were keyboarding 100 percent of the time...

    100% of the time? Does this seem a little high to anyone else? Don't people take breaks for bathroom, /., etc?

    1. Re:100% by mesach · · Score: 4, Funny

      It makes sense to me, they wanna get thier work done and get the fuck outta the room!

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  9. Since it's under science... by Pi_0's+don't+shower · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's worth pointing out that perhaps the most productive university in the entire world in the field of astronomy is the University of Hawaii at Manoa.

    It is just a coincidence? Astronomers/Astrophysicists always seem to know where to build the best ground-based telescopes (Hawaii, Chile, the Canary Islands...)

    1. Re:Since it's under science... by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Since telescopes are built on remote hilltops as far away from human activity (light and vibration polution), it makes sense to put them on remote volcanic islands.

      It also means that those living on the islands also have a better view of the cosmos. Also on the islands, people can study astronomy all year round, in other places, you usually have to go on a specially arranged visit, they can just look out of their window.

      Thats just common sense. Its like saying the best igloo building university is in Alaska.

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  10. That's it... by Rorschach1 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm forwarding this on to my facility manager. It's freaking COLD in here! And it's not just in the winter that it's cold - it's ALWAYS cold in here. Someone decided to put a ton of servers in the next room, and the servers like it cold, but guess what? There's no way to isolate the two areas. Yeah, it affects productivity - we're always huddling around our space heaters shivering rather than typing.

    Oh, and now we're not supposed to have space heaters. Thank God for surplus AlphaServers...

  11. Obligatory offshore joke by Chagatai · · Score: 3, Funny
    Will this increase in output be enough to convince my boss to pay for us to vacation-commute from a tropical island?

    No, but welcome your new office in sunny Bangalore, where the temps often exceed 100F and humidity reigns!

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  12. Way too hot! by Power+Everywhere · · Score: 2, Interesting

    At my job we must wear an undershirt and a dress shirt or polo or sweater. We also have to wear socks and shoes, never sandals, and are disallowed shorts. 25 C would be unbearable and would make most of us doze off. 20 C is much more acceptable. However, the women there complain that it's cold unless it hirts 27 C. Go figure.

  13. Re:I can't believe that by LiENUS · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When temperatures are colder im concerned with warming up, not with working. I think the idea behind this article is you work better in a more comfortable office, not that the more you crank up the heat the more you work.

  14. Not me by moorcito · · Score: 2, Funny

    Warm office, bah. I get all my best work done in the deep freeze. Nothing like having your keyboard frozen solid to make you work extra hard typing that TPS report.

  15. Really? by tlhIngan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Then why do I have a bloody fan on my desk that's on all year?

    I don't know about anyone else, but a warm office really hurts my productivity. Heck, when the A/C goes out, I think more about the temperature than the job at hand. It's also unpleasant coming into the office after doing a little bit of exercise, and spending the next 20 minutes wiping all the sweat off. Plus, warm offices feel somewhat stuffy.

    Personally, I know some offices are nice and chilly, and it can hurt productivity, but too warm is probably a lot worse than too cold. (Too warm - get a fan - if you're still hot, tough. Too cold - a heater, sweater, anything - when you're warm enough (or feeling hot), take it off.

    Then again, maybe I'm weird to prefer cooler weather. Me, like airplanes, like cold air... not hot (and possibly humid) air.

  16. Office Attire / Room Temp? by spleck · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What are these people wearing? T-shirt and shorts?

    Many workplaces require slacks and a collared shirt. Add an undershirt and I'm good for 70F.

    We had an issue with our AC for a while and had to deal with 80F temps. We complained and complained to get it to 70-72F.

    Isn't "room temp" 72F/22C ??

  17. This is old news by sckienle · · Score: 5, Informative

    From Article: When the office temperature in a month-long study increased from 68 to 77 degrees Fahrenheit, typing errors fell by 44 percent and typing output jumped 150 percent.

    This is a well-known phenomenon, first seen in the Hawthorne studies. One of the first productivity studies was in a factory where the researcher first reduced the light, and productivity increased; then the researcher increased the light, and productivity still increased. The end result is that worker productivity increased indirectly merely by changing the work environment.

    Maybe that's why we keep getting reorganized....

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    1. Re:This is old news by maxwell+demon · · Score: 2, Funny
      One of the first productivity studies was in a factory where the researcher first reduced the light, and productivity increased; then the researcher increased the light, and productivity still increased.

      So the most efficient environment is one with a flickering light?
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    2. Re:This is old news by suwain_2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      productivity increased indirectly merely by changing the work environment.

      I was actually wondering if anyone else had mentioned this, sometimes called the Hawthorne Effect. However, it seems you have the summarization a little wrong.

      It's generally believed that productivity didn't increase because their environment was changing; productivity went up because they knew they were being studied, and/or that management cared about them enough to look. Remember that the Hawthorne study was one of the forerunners in the wild new theory that increasing productivity might have something to do with employees, not machinery.

      It's not entirely unlike the placebo effect, although I'd stop short of equating the two.

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    3. Re:This is old news by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 2, Interesting


      It's not entirely unlike the placebo effect, although I'd stop short of equating the two.

      One way in which it differs is that the Hawthorne effect is somewhat more conscious. Workers know that working faster will lead to increased productivity. They consciously can change the outcome. A patient getting a placebo effect doesn't know what "muscles" he's flexing, or which attitudes he's affecting that are causing his healing to speed up.

      So in other words:
      Hawthorne effect: The subject knows he's being tested, and knows how to change the outcome, and so he changes it.
      Placebo effect: The subject knows he's being tested, but he doesn't know how to change the outcome, but manages to change it subconsiously anyway.

      The Placebo effect is somewhat more "mysterious". I'd like to see some people study it to learn the mechanism behind it. There's got to be something interesting going on there.

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  18. Warm Office=Faster Typing by ThurstonMoore · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I work in an office that gets very cold during the fall and winter and I have noticed that my typing speed decreases dramatically when my hands are cold.

  19. That explains alot by maddh · · Score: 2, Funny
    I work all day in the server room at about 60F and can barely get anything done.
    All this time I thought I was just born lazy, but its actually the working environment.

    Thanks Science!

  20. Sample size by the_twisted_pair · · Score: 4, Insightful
    From the article:
    In the study, which was conducted at Insurance Office of America's headquarters in Orlando, Fla., each of nine workstations was equipped with a miniature personal environment-sensor for sampling air temperature every 15 minutes.

    Wow, what a meaningful sample size.

    That, and the references to keyboards and accuracy makes it sound like it's purely a study of a typing pool to me. Probably female, probably requiring little in the way of creative/critical thinking, just a cosy space to get on with the tiresome task of earning a dollar.

    This passes for 'research'...? Oh dear.

  21. Temperature Fascists by TrentL · · Score: 2, Insightful

    77 is horrible if you're wearing a T-Shirt, a dress-shirt, and a tie. Keep it at 70 or lower. If people are cold, too bad: they can wear more clothes. People who always bitch about it being "too cold" and try to get the temp increased are one of my big pet peeves. My dorm rooms were always scorching, even in the winter. Damn Temperature Fascists.

    1. Re:Temperature Fascists by cyberlotnet · · Score: 4, Funny

      I agree with you 100%

      My motto is very simple

      When its cold you can always put on more clothes.
      When its hot you can only take off so much before your arrested!

    2. Re:Temperature Fascists by NardofDoom · · Score: 2, Informative
      I've always been too warm, even back during my running days. I would often shovel snow in jeans, sneakers and a light jacket.

      I know people who are obese and keep their houses at 73 (way too warm for me) because they're always cold. It has more to do with metabolism (mine's like a freakin' mongoose) than your weight.

      Muscular people are usually warmer than fat people because muscle burns more energy than fat.

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    3. Re:Temperature Fascists by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      People who always bitch about it being "too cold" and try to get the temp increased are one of my big pet peeves.
      and it's ignorant clods like you that make my GF's work life difficult.

      she has Reynauds, a condition tha tcan cut off the circulation in her fingers if exposed to low temperatures... Yes a half hour in of 67 degree temperatures WILL trigger this condition. Many other people also have circulation problems.

      Her last boss was so stupid that it took us filing for disability for her on his ass as well as a lawsuit on him for creating a hostile work environment before he turned the temperature back up to 70.

      Maybe these people "bitching" have a real reason.

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    4. Re:Temperature Fascists by arivanov · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It is not just Reynauds disease.

      If you have had a burn or freeze above 2nd degree on more then 30% of your hands you will have similar problems. Under 20C you are likely to start experiencing pains in your hands after less then an hour of typing (speaking out of personal experience here).

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  22. Conclusion unwarranted by wombatmobile · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When the office temperature in a month-long study increased from 68 to 77 degrees Fahrenheit, typing errors fell by 44 percent and typing output jumped 150 percent.

    Those data don't warrant the conclusion "Warm Offices Boost Productivity."

    The improvement could simply be a result of the change. The gains might not be sustained over time. Lowering the temperature another 3 degrees six weeks later could also yield an improvement.

    A change is as good as a holiday.

    Warmth may seem great when you lack it but then the same can be said for coolness.

    1. Re:Conclusion unwarranted by wombatmobile · · Score: 2, Funny

      those morons jump on trendy bandwagons faster than 14 year old girls.

      yeah? Around here morons jump on 14 year old girls quicker than anything.

  23. Cold hands can't type by upsidedown_duck · · Score: 3, Insightful


    At one office I worked in, my hands would become almost immobile and typing was often difficult.

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  24. Temperature in Hospitals by DanTekGeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Interestingly enought, they keep the air temp in hospitals cold for that exact reason. The cold snap helps keep the Docs on edge.

  25. Reminds me of idea by Apreche · · Score: 2, Funny

    I had this idea a while ago. That I should make a software company that has no office building. It would consists of a cabana, lots of really comfortable beach chairs, a big safe to store important stuffs in, and a wire box with network/server and a WAP. All the employees would lounge about by the pool, or in the pool with waterproof laptops, doing work and connecting via wireless.

    I mean seriously, what beats coding on the beach? And customers would love to do business with us even if we charged more than the competition. I think its a winner. Every day will be Hawaiian shirt day.

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  26. Warmer offices is politically correct term for... by FerretFrottage · · Score: 5, Funny

    sweatshops...hence the productivity increase.

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  27. Sedentary jobs by Shotgun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A sedentary job at 68degrees is a nightmare. Just cool enough to not have the shivers kick in until you have been chilled to the bone. The cold sort of sneaks up on you. I'd prefer 58, as the urge to grab a coat and a cup of coffee is immediate. Now when I moved furniture for a living, 68 was PERFECT weather (you had to actually do something before working up a sweat).

    I'd also guess that this study was comprised of mostly women. Women tend to be lighter (less body mass), and be comfortable at a slightly higher temperature than men. I would find 77 to be a sweltering hell after about 4 or 5 hours. Winter in my house is always interesting, as my wife wants the thermostat on 80 and I try to find a room with an open window.

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  28. Not sure about the productivity aspect, but... by EvilOpie · · Score: 2, Informative

    This seems to be an interesting story. I'm not sure that I'm more productive when I'm warm (probably a bit of the opposite if it gets too warm), but I do find that it helps me to make less errors. I guess I never thought about it like that before.

    See, when my hands get cold I tend to make more typing mistakes. One of the computers in my office has a vent blowing right across my hands when I use the keyboard on it. If I work on it for too long (I'd say over an hour and up) my fingers tend to get cold and my typing rate goes down. I guess it's probably due to a lack of flexibility in my fingers.

    Still, I think I'd prefer that to having my office set at 77 degrees. That's almost uncomfortably warm for me, and It'd probably just put me to sleep.

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  29. This article could be a life saver by forgetmenot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In the new building where I work IT has it's own closed off area so we can work in peace and harmony. Only problem is, to save money, the CEO decided IT doesn't need it own thermostat. One half of the room is controller by a thermostat down the hall in the IT manager's office, and the other half of the room is controller by the thermostat on the other side of the building in the accounting department's office right under a heating vent. I tell you... we either freeze to death or sweat our guts out. One of the girls here generally moves into the server room to do her work during the winter. At any rate, I was pretty miffed about IT having to suffer like this - I've had a cold non-stop for about the past year and half - just to save a few dollars on building costs. I'm forwarding this article to the powers that be and hope they take it to heart before I die of pneumonia.

  30. Tropical brain power by overmeer · · Score: 4, Funny

    See this is why hawaiians can come up with things like a G4 emulator at 80% host speed.

  31. Snooze by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I had an astrophysics prof in college from India who said in class, I kid you not, "It is very warm in here. It puts you to sleep. Maybe that is why the cooler northern countries have been historically more advanced industrially." Dunno if there is any truth to that but it certainly woke me up.

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    1. Re:Snooze by cmburns69 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think the reason that the northern countries are historically more advanced in industry is because of the season cycle. In a tropical area, there is rarely a food shortage. You can harvest what you want, when you want it.

      In a cooler climate, where nothing grows during the winter, you'd better have that supply of food built up-- Or you'll starve. It's a simple matter of necessity.

      However, when my fingers are cold, I cannot type very well. But when they're warm, they just fly across the keyboard!

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    2. Re:Snooze by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Whether the root cause is food or not, I don't know, but in Britain, labour was relatively expensive, wheras in India, labour was cheap.

      So, if you're running a textile business, and you need to power a fabric loom, you have India do all the work with their manual looms and skilled workforce.

      Domestic work would of course be more profitable, but there aren't nearly as many skilled people working the looms in Britain.

      Slavery inhibited this need in the Roman empire, but in Britian, it was nowhere near as prevalent... not enough slaves.

      ...so somebody figured out that you could get more work out of people if you began using water-powered looms, then steam powered looms, then you used British government to restrict the sales of cheaper and superior Indian textiles, finally forcing Indians to buy more expensive, inferior textiles from Britain...

      Slavery might have inhibitied this need in the Americas, but one thing came with the American conquerors that the Romans never had... guns. The development, sale and distribution of firearms was a technological boon for the Americas. Then came the railway... this covered the creation of a coal-engine-fine machinery industry across the country which could be tapped for both skills and resources to create new technologies like the wireless and so forth.

      When the British machinery was used in the U.S., the need for slavery or slave-wages was reduced and eventually eliminated, only the most unscrupulous designer labels practicing slavery or wage-slavery today.

      But food probably does play a part in dictating why there was so much cheap labour in India v.s. Britain, it's tough to say... it's just as remarkable to look at why Rome didn't develop modern technology as why Britain and the Americas did.

    3. Re:Snooze by ashayh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This has to be the most useless study ever conducted.
      Most of the time it's so hot in India it drains you so much you simply cannot work to full capacity (esp in an IT job) without an AC.
      I know the difference an air conditioner made for me.

      Maybe instead of spending money on this study this guy should have tried to get a job in New Delhi or attend University in Pune, where I've given college tests in 40+ C (105 F). Or he could have gone to South US (Texas, Florida).

      I also know the difference since coming to Pennsylvania. When the heatings not fully on and its 55F in the house, you can bundle up and tap away at your keyboard... Freezing temperatures simply do not sap your strength like the heat. You can bundle up and spend hours outside in snowy weather but you won't feel tired when you get home. Not so when its 35+ outside.
      Every try cycling/running in cold weather ? I've used my bike in 10F and let me tell you its a lot more comfortable than cycling in 100F.

      Humans need comfortable temperatures to do their best.(duh!) But I would prefer it to be cold outside and use heating indoors than the other way round. Atleast one can go outdoors...

      There are some Canadians in my friends office in India. Their first few days are spent exclaiming "Ooooh ! its so nice and warm here!". This does not last for more than a few weeks...then they go back to jumping in a cooled car and hiding in a cooled office.

  32. controlling for time by maomoondog · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In the slides, it's pretty clear that office temperature increased throughout the day on average, while errors decreased throughout the day. How do they know this isn't more about awakeness than than temperature?

    Large scale data collection in the field is great, but you gotta make up for in analysis all the precautions you didn't take during experimental design....

  33. Random conclusion... by l4m3z0r · · Score: 2, Funny

    The hotter it is the more productive workers are. Logical conclusion for my management, I better start wearing shorts to work, or perhaps a bathrobe because I fully expect to come into work tomorrow to face sauna-like conditions.

  34. Spin that wheel, run that ratrace, little rodent! by Cryofan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The responses on this thread just illustrate perfectly the degree of brainwashing of most Americans. The corporate regime has been able to get Americans to go along with the idea that everyone should spend their lives working hard just like little hamsters on their wheels, little rats running their mazes.

    Americans should see America as a business, but one where THEY are the owners, and not the worker drones. Do you see business owners worrying about how "productive" they are, about how many words per minute THEY type? Instead of worrying about helping the corporate plantation squeeze as much work as possible out of ourselves, we should be thinking about how America can be organized so that we have as little work to do as possible.

    Life is finite, people....

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  35. Quite the opposite by dargaud · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm at my most productive when I'm in Antarctica. I'm going to be a lone coder for the first winter over at Dome C, starting next months.

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    1. Re:Quite the opposite by Quixote · · Score: 2, Funny

      Err, hate to break it to ya chief, but Antarctica is in the Southern Hemisphere, which means it is going to be summer there starting next month.

    2. Re:Quite the opposite by Kiryat+Malachi · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, but summer in Antarctica is still freaking cold. Winter in Chicago is warmer than summer in Antarctica. An average summer temp of 0C at the coast and around -30 on the plateau. Where is Dome C? On the plateau.

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    3. Re:Quite the opposite by grcumb · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wow, Antarctica, that's pretty wild.

      I'm currently working in the tiny island nation of Vanuatu in the South Pacific. Here, the temperature is seldom less than 23-25, and frequently warmer. Everyone here at the office is extremely productive.

      (Whoops, back in a second. There's someone selling green coconuts. Gotta get a drink....)

      Sorry, what was I saying? Oh yeah, productivity, right. Yeah it's great here in Vanuatu because

      Heh, sorry, got cut off by my boss. I'm heading out to the beach this afternoon, and he wants to know if I want to borrow his surf board.

      So yeah, the level of productivity in the tropics is *way* higher than in colder places because... Man! That music is great! Sorry, all the windows are open here in the office, and there's a string band playing somewhere outside. Sounds of the islands. Love it, man. Love it.

      Anyway, so I was saying that this study is right on the money, because the temperature here is usually in the high twenties. In fact, it's really comfortable. That means I remain alert and productive at all timezzzmmmmmmz,,

      Heh, sorry. Dozed off for a second there. Listen, I'll finish this right after lunch. Here in Vanuatu we take a 2 hour lunch, because of the heat. Time zone differences mean that you'll probably be asleep by the time I get back, so how about I just finish this up tomorrow, huh?

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  36. Hot Offices by nurb432 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Too much heat gives me headaches and causes co-workers to spend time complaining its too hot.. Doesnt improve anything...

    "warm" as an abstract word is useless..

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  37. There was an old IQ study ... by wytcld · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There was a study decades ago where IQ tests were administered at different temperatures. It turned out we're smartest (as measured by those tests, anyhow) at about 45 degrees F, and decline above that.

    Then again, intelligence may not correlate with the urge to produce. Wasn't there that study out a few weeks back showing that monkeys were more "productive" at a repetitive task if their neuronal reward circuits were disabled? Those who still experienced the pleasure of reward would put off work until just before the reward was anticipated, while those without the pleasure would just keep working no matter when.

    So maybe warm = stupid = less feeling of accomplishment, but "paradoxically" if you're performing some drone task may make the boss very happy with the consequences.

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  38. You want warm? by boola-boola · · Score: 2, Informative
    Try moving to [central] Texas. I wear a t-shirt until early December often, and start wearing it again roughly March.

    Oh, and today we will have a high of 94F and 84% relative humidity.

    (I'd kill for a 70F or less office!)

  39. Come to North Carolina then by gelfling · · Score: 2, Funny

    We got plenty of heat and third world humidity. Shit we have vultures and snakefish, cousins marrying cousins, no shoes, poor people and the worlds best white trash rednecks too.

    Come to the Tarheel state. It's like Mumbai except the people don't speak English.

  40. Are you all insane?? by itistoday · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here in Florida I'm lucky if my AC can handle keeping the temperature at 78! For us, 85 is warm, and 75 is a comfortable cool. You pampered bastards...

  41. CPU Heat by germaniumdiode · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why can't they just shut the heat off completely and rely on the CPUs and monitors to heat the room? Just tell the workers to deal with it and wear extra layers. Its good on the heating bill and keeps the PCs nice and chilly. Think about it, cooler temps help the PCs run better, and makes it so that they break less often (except with n00bs who dont RTFM) thus saving money on PC repair and replacement. So as you can see, keeping the ofice cooler is better on the budget in the long run.

  42. Strike caused by temperature! by SysKoll · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One of my uncles was a union negociator. He was called whenever the discussions between management and unions went south and his job was to mend things.

    Once, he was called in a machine shop where workers had gone on strike after fighting with management over apparently irrelevant issues.

    After peeling the various layers of gripes, it became clear that tempers had flared for no real discernable reason. And then, my uncle noticed something: It was really warm in the floor (this was in the winter).

    It turned out that the temperature for both the machine floor and the offices were controlled by a thermostat that was in the office of the boss' secretary, an older woman who liked it warm.

    The thermostat was moved to the floor, the boss got a space heater for her secretary, and the work relationships improved markedly.

    So maybe this study is relevant for nine female underactive office clerks. But put machine shop workers wearing their full security attire in a 77F environment, and they will mill your butt off!

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  43. I call bullshit on this on behalf of men by IronChefMorimoto · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Um, I officially want to call bullshit on this on behalf of all men on the planet stuck in offices that are blisteringly hot...because of women who DO NOT LIKE TO BE COLD.

    This study should've gone further and broken down the data on gender, because I have yet to find a guy in the various offices that I've worked in that thought the temps in the office were TOO COLD to WORK PRODUCTIVELY.

    On the contrary, I've had nearly drop-down-dragged-out fights with the ladies in offices where I've worked because of the thermostat. No -- I'm not a violent man -- I'm not putting smackdown on cold female co-workers. I'm talking about insidious "cold war" (no pun intended) tactics -- surreptitiously bumping UP/DOWN the thermostat on the way to the can; taking informal "polls" asking how COLD people think the office is; etc.

    The only way I've found to combat the never ending "cold ware" in my office is to basically lay down the equivalent of mutually assured grossing out. I basically tell the ladies in the office whining about the cold that I can either take of my shirt to stay cool and let them turn up the heat, or they can put on more clothing.

    Man boobs are a powerful weapon in the hands of the right male.

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  44. Cool working environment makes for good workers by indian_rediff · · Score: 2, Informative

    All those workers in India (or other locations where development work is being outsourced to) work in COOL Air Conditioned offices - translation - being productive has everything to do with body comfort and nothing to do with excessive warmth in the office.

    As someone above has said, it may have more to do with a change than to do with the actual temperature.

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  45. Planet with two hemispheres by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If that were true, then why isn't there a corresponding set of industrially advanced countries in the cool south?

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  46. The staff were yanking the management's chain by OutOfMyTree · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Oh, come on, read the article. Who ever spends 100% of their time working if they can get away with working only 54% of the time? It looks like the workers in the experiment were trying to get their heating turned up, so they deliberately varied what they did to give the "results" that would get mangement to keep the place warmer.

    "At 77 degrees Fahrenheit, the workers were keyboarding 100 percent of the time with a 10 percent error rate, but at 68 degrees, their keying rate went down to 54 percent of the time with a 25 percent error rate,"

    The workstations had monitoring equipment fitted, the people knew what was going on (well, you wouldn't miss the temperature varying from 68 to 77, would you) and they worked out an appropriate response. Well, nearly appropriate -- that 100% could only be believed by someone with a very pointy head or by someone in a very high ivory tower.

  47. Overly flip stuff in every Slashdot lead-in by OnanTheBarbarian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "It looks like the real reason for offshoring is corporations looking for warmer weather."

    Why does every third Slashdot story have to contain some sophomoric, contentious and/or unfounded sentence in the lead-in? These sorts of things generate, as a rule, a huge amount of off-topic flaming and often frame the actual article in question in a distorted light ("Ask Unix Co-Creator (sic) Rob Pike"). It'd be nice if there was a little less raw opinion and random editorializing splattered across the actual stories. It's only a few lines; for heaven's sake try to be a little professional.

    1. Re:Overly flip stuff in every Slashdot lead-in by Gryffin · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It'd be nice if there was a little less raw opinion and random editorializing splattered across the actual stories. It's only a few lines; for heaven's sake try to be a little professional.

      You must be new here. ;{)

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  48. 21 Celcius or 70 farenheit is optimal by SergeyKurdakov · · Score: 4, Informative

    just before reading the article as far as I know not such warm climate is optimal :) see http://www.usaweekend.com/00_issues/000116/000116b iology.html

    Pay attention to air quality. Cool, dry air, especially on your face, helps keep you alert, while heat and humidity make you drowsy. Studies show that mental performance, such as rule-based logical thinking, can be reduced by 30% at temperatures not even warm enough to cause sweating. So keep the room at 70 degrees, the average optimum temperature for mental work in the United States. (Not everybody shares the same optimal temperature -- some are "cold-blooded"; others are "hot-blooded" -- so you may need to adjust up or down.)

    see also http://schoolstudio.engr.wisc.edu/energysmartschoo ls.html

    Optimal Thermal Conditions Thermal comfort has been shown to influence task performance, attention spans and levels of discomfort. In general, historical empirical studies going back 50 years have indicated that temperatures above 80 degrees F tend to produce harmful physiological effects that decrease work efficiency and output (McGuffy, 1982). Thermal conditions are below optimal levels affect dexterity, while higher than optimal temperatures decrease general alertness and increase physiological stress. One researcher (Harner, 1974) when reviewing optimal temperature levels for the performance found that reading and mathematical skills were adversely affected by temperatures above 74 degrees F. Reading speed and comprehension were most affected by temperature. A significant reduction in reading speed and comprehension occurred between 73.4 degrees F and 80.6 degrees F. This researcher also found that achievement is mathematical operations such as multiplication, addition and factoring have been shown to be significantly reduced by air temperatures above 77 degrees F.

  49. school by rpillala · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'd like to see a similar study done for classrooms, especially now that all kinds of data is being gathered and "drilled down." Maybe it would convince my school to maintain a normal temperature in my frigid classroom. Actually my classroom is frigid when it's warmer out and hot when it's colder. The climate control has no middle ground. not that the little box on the wall in my room has anything to do with the temperature.

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