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Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Preview
Daemon writes "Daeya.org has put up the first part of a preview of the new Final Fantasy movie. Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children will be released in DVD format. The story takes place two years after Earth was saved from Meteor at the end of Final Fantasy VII." Great report, but it's very spoiler heavy. Be warned.
Maybe it's just me, but I still think it sounds strange to have a Final Fantasy VII - I guess the first one wasn't so final after all.
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That will buy this for the hot chicks in it? :)
feh. stuff.
Is it just me, or does the numbering system for the Final Fantasy games/movies seem completely random now?
This space for rent...
...someone's lame attempt at advertising their FFXI fansite?
this is one movie im really looking forward to, i just hope I don't have to wait for PSP to come out and get it on a little UMD...
SimcitySphere
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I bet this Daeya.org would be burnt down by a lawyer's megaflare summoned by SquareEnix in a few days.
Isn't there already a Final Fantasy 8 and 9?
But I remember the numbering schemes being even more confusing with the Mega Man and Street Fighter games.
A hungry man will tell you anything if you give him a cookie.
This isn't just a spoiler, it's someone retelling the entire movie!
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Why? Doesn't anyone think that this place will have their arse sued off for giving all this away?
so when is gonna be released? i cant find the date!
I've recently started playing FF X and it is hard to tell if it is a game or a movie. And no I am not talking about the quality of the graphics but rather the interactivity. I've played to 1/3 of the way from my guess and it is way too linear. Every map literally has an arrow pointing this way to the next challenge. My guess is some of the battles are rigged to move the plot along as they planned. With a little more automation it could have been made into a movie.
This is spoilers but the review really makes it look like the (un)worthy follow-up to "Spirits Within," except even cornier. Even the review is just painful to look at. Read it and weep:
All three (3) silver-haired characters are there with Kadaj giving a speech about going against the Planet. He claims that the geostigma is a gift from the Planet that fills their hearts with doubt and racks their body with pain, not letting them fight. Cloud finding Tifa in Aerith's Church He claims that he will heal the children. Kadaj then says, Then, we will go to Mother! We will join as a family and strike back at the Planet!" As he says that, there is energy gathering around him.
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...but I'm pretty sure that since one of their crew "spent 15 minutes editing each picture," they have a claim on that edited picture.
--Teechur007
or did anyone else feel a sharp agonizing pain in thier side when they read the words "Final Fantasy movie"?
Technoli
Mainstream American audiences don't like anything that is really heavy on fantasy or sci fi, generally speaking, unless it has one of two things: spectacular visuals or has a plot that might as well be a fantasy/sci-fi take on modern day issues. LOTR and SW e 4-6 had the former, old Star Trek had the latter.
Don't get me wrong, I am salivating at the thought of getting my grubby mits on this after looking at the shots taken from it, and I was there opening night for Final Fantasy the movie. Just don't be surprised if this never gets anywhere in America. Imagination and the average American tend to be something akin to mortal enemies.
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a movie version of Final Fantasy II? IMHO FFII had the best plot of all the FFs, and it doesn't have all the anime-esque/techno stuff tossed into it (I'm sorry, I could never get very into FFVII VIII or X). Seriously, Cecil and his battle with his inner demons (and emerging as a paladin), Rydia the summoner, great quest, airships, dwarves, elemental demons, the death of Palum and Porum early on in the flick (shocker!), it would be awesome!! Hell, I was so into that game when I was 12/13 I was depressed for a week after finishing it.
And PLEASE PLEASE, no long, weird, poorly translated speeches about the nature of the human soul or philosophy, a-la Ghost in the Shell.
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I agree with him. I'd never pay for a movie just because of a hot chick. I have a girl friend who obsesses over Brad Pitt movies because he's so hot but gets pissed if I talk about porn stars. What's the difference?!
Wheel in the sky keeps on turnin'.
From that description, the whole thing is really random. Some guys on a hill just decide to attack him? They fight in the church just for fun? I'm a huge FF fan, but I'm really skeptical about this; I'm not seeing a plot yet; there are just some fight scenes strung together. What little there is in-between doesn't make much sense and has no continuity.
I still curse the name Sephiroth to this day!! Damn him for what he did to Aeris!! I spent all that time getting her levels up...then wham! Sword thru the gut....the fire of a thousand suns doesn't begin to descirbe my anger.
- Official Square Enix website
- IMDB entry
- ff7ac.net (fansite)
- ff7-2.com (fansite)
There's also www.adventchildren.net, but that one's not entirely working for me at the moment.In God We Trust, Others We Monitor
Maybe because this was produced primarily for a Japanese market by a Japanese company and only then translated to English for export?
Why does a script have to be originally written in English? Is English superior to all other languages? Is Japanese deficient and worth avoiding? Of course not, linguists tell us that all languages are essentially equal. Instead, what matters is the quality of the translation. Some Square-Enix things have been translated quite well, others have not.
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is Aki Ross in it? That's all I care about really. Seeing this movie is a yes/no decision for me.
That's Final Fantasy 4. The atrociously bad first English translation of it (the American SNES version) was released under the title "Final Fantasy 2" in the U.S. to avoid confusing "stupid American consumers", because the real Final Fantasy 2 and 3 hadn't been released in English. In addition to being released under the wrong name, the difficulty level was reduced considerably from the real version, the translation was a horrid mess, and the dialog was heavily censored ("spoony bard", anyone?) to make the game "kid friendly".
The re-release of Final Fantasy 4 in English (for the Playstation) restored the correct title and gave us the real version of the game and a reasonably good translation.
Can the recent Final Fantasy games really be classified as Role Playing games anymore? Ever since FF7 the series has been reduced to just fighting monsters inbetween CG cutscenes. Too many games gave been trying to bridge the gap between the movie and the game. It may seem like a good idea, but IMHO it just makes a really boring game. Metal Gear Solid 2 suffered from this. Snake opens door-watch 10 minute movie. Snake walks down hallway-watch 15 minute movie. The entire game was just walking Snake from one cuscene to the next. If I want to watch a movie, I'll go to the video store and rent one. If I want to play a game, then I want to PLAY, not sit through 20 minutes of cutscenes.
Actually, linguists would probably tell that not all languages are equal - however, oftentimes the expressiveness of any two languages used in similarly sophisticated countries (that is, both countries need vocabulary and expressions for roughly the same things) might be roughly equal, since if some languages lack something, they usually make it up somehow.
Japanese isn't grammatically as flexible or... interesting as English, nor (AFAIK) it has as large vocabulary of synonyms, but it definitely makes it up with its completely mysterious semantic side ("it's not the size of the language, but how you use it!")
Okay, that was completely offtopic, sorry. :)
One word: "porn" ;-P
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Between Advent Children and all the other Final Fantasy VII sequels that have been announced, it's good to see Square Enix acknowledging their most popular FF to date. Before Crisis - Final Fantasy VII is their entry into Mobile phone gaming. And then you also have Final Fantasy: Dirge of Cerberus, their PS2 sequel which focuses on one of the supporting characters in the game, Vincent Valentine.
For those of you who haven't played the original game yet, you should go out and get a copy. It's available for $20 under the classics banner, and boasts one of the most unique battle systems in an RPG. The "materia"-system offers so much flexibility, and let's you really customize your game. I love the materia-combos that can be created.
AnimeNEXT anime convention
Well I don't know about Final Fantasy, but some CG characters (i.e. Silent Hill) looked SO realistic and well-done.
Perhaps the movie would be a real hit if instead of 3D-rendering they used cel-shading for the characters. Akira, anyone?
Well... I think part of this is about mindset. I'm all about CG eye candy. I'm a sucker for it every time. When I went to the theater to see FF:The Spirits Within, I was expecting to be hugely blown away by realism. While it wasn't horrible, it didn't live up to the expectations I had built up in my mind.
I won't do this when I see FF:Advent Children. All movies require a certain amount of suspension of belief, and no matter how well it will be rendered, I'll keep it firmly in mind that this is, ultimately, just a cartoon. One with it's own style and conventions. Instead of expecting realism, I'll look for beauty. If there's one thing Square can deliver, it's beautiful artwork and graphics.
Why does that website allow Goooogle to put links to gilsellers on their site? The same gilsellers that are f*cking a game by Square-Enix up (Final Fantasy XI).
...just keep Jen Taylor as Cortana?
Read "Joystick Nation" and "Hamlet on the Holodeck"
Does anybody know of any trusted sites where I can pre-order the DVD from?
But does right click suppression annoy the shit out of anybody else?
Xaotik Designs
Historically, the Final Fantasy games have always been set in different worlds (carrying over constants like a character named Sid/Cid, chocobos, airships, sometimes light/element crystals, Bahamut, etc). The world in FF2j is not the same as FF1, nor is the world in FF3e/6j the same as in FF2e/4j or FF5j. The plot is fairly formulaic -- something has/will happen to the world, and it's up to a scrappy band of heroes to save the day. In the end, the world is changed, evil is banished forever, and everybody lives happily ever after. That's why I don't like Square's new emphasis on sequels (FF X-2, the new FF VII-related games, the FF VII movie, FF XI's attempt to cash in on the MMOG craze). The previous games were not sequels, regardless of how they were named. These new sequels now ruin the whole plot by continuing the story after what was supposedly the ultimate end. It seems to me that Square is in trouble if they can't come up with "new" story lines and characters, but instead have to rehash their old games.
Besides, if they're going to give us a sequel/prequel/extension of the story, why not do it with the best Final Fantasy game ever, FF 3e/6j? Then again, FF6 has the same "problem" as FF7 with respect to a sequel, in that the game had a very definite ending. Nothing really remains open to sequelize without reinterpreting events that happened in the original games.
I dunno, I always thought that Sephiroth chick was pretty hot!
"The story takes place two years after Earth was saved from Meteor at the end of Final Fantasy VII"
Wow, I thought it this sort of thing was against Squaresoft's requirement that the FF series have no sense of continuity...the reason I won't be seeing it is because of their other requirement that every game in (or movie about) the series be considerably worse than the last...
long, extraordinary, well translated speeches about the nature of humanity?
Do you just diable Javascript? 'Cause the Allow Right Click extension isn't compatible with 1.0PR1.
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Yes, but the unusual thing about FF6 was that the definitive end was only 2/3 of the way through the game. I'd love to find out who rediscovered magic and all of that. More importantly, how about a PREQUEL - War of the Magi, or possibly something during the early formation of the empire.
Also, they *are* all on the same world, as I understand it - it's just they're separated by ages of time. The crystals that are gathered in the first several are the exact same crystals. There's even descendants of some of the characters in other games, IIRC. Don't ask me to name any though, because I can't.
That's funny...
Many have said that all video RPG's have had the same limiting effect on imagination, of course these people are speaking from the perspective of either the Infocom/Scott Adams text adventure game genre, or the Pen-and-Paper RPG that really required serious imagination from all involved.
Seeing as most entertainment media is merely a variety of ways to communicate one person's creative thought to many others, isn't that the purpose? As games get more imersive they will naturally require less imagination on the part of the participant and more imagination on the part of the developer... or at least in theory.
To be more imersive in this way is to convey many of the details we are used to supplying for ourselves. Might as well get used to it.
Of blankness, I know nothing.
Was at the screening as well, best 10 bucks spent in a while, though still kinda crappy that it was only a piece of the movie. They said it was work in progress and that it'll end up being about 60-80 minutes long when complete. They actually had guests from Sqaure-Enix to talk about the movie, and that the whole thing was using bleeding-edge digital technology (even the projector and screen was new just for the screening).
The detail was amazing -- you could even see the freckles on some characters' faces. You can't really tell at all that it's CG and not real actors. Almost all the main FF7 cast was in the preview, and some really cool action scenes. Makes you wish they remade the game based on the movie. Vincent moves extremely quick and swiftly, almost like a vampire. Barret's gun arm transforms into other things like liquid metal. Aeris is in the film, but you barely see her face (at least in the preview). Red XIII actually does have a tail on fire. Cid has his polearm and is quite good at swift at keeping enemies at bay. Tifa seems to be in charge of the Strife Delivery service, and she gets her 10 seconds of fighting fame before getting overpowered by the crazy antagonist. They also had a flashback with Cloud's friend from SOLDIER in that flashback in the game. The Turks are also in the movie.
BTW, the 30 minutes included the opening and end credits, so in reality, it was only like 20 minutes.
1. Cecil and Kain deliever the package/fire ring to the summoner town. Got the whole guilt trip here.
2. Meets Yang, fights Kain, meet Golbez for the first time, fails to defend the crystal, gets seperated after the boat sinks. Way too much here, cannot be skipped considering you can do this in less than 30 minutes if you know exactly who to talk to and what to do.
3. Becomes a Paladin. Need, self-explanatory.
4. Fights Golbez, first time. Need, good versus evil battle.
5. Enter the underworld. Need, haven't even gotten to the dwarves, Yang getting blown up, human experiments, summoned creatures and Kain betraying Cecil by stealing the crystal.
This doesn't even include what happens on the moon or the cliffhanger ending let alone the whole Golbez and Cecil are brothers thing. Assuming just 20 minutes for each on of these and you got a one hour movie and you're not even half way through.
I like firefox, but I always keep going back to Opera for the mouse gestures (almost wish I could get them at an OS level). Simply stunning, allows you to handle windows and pages easilly. Instead of looking for a window close button or a minimize button, I just use my mouse no matter where it is located.
Is there a firefox extension for mouse gestures?
--Demonspawn
Maybe I can pretend this is the ending to FFVII that I was gypped out of...
Umm, Sephiroth was a guy?!?!?!?!? I hope you have a vision plan!
... a fake fansite trying to advertize FF XI?!
What?!?! No way!!! Next you're going to tell me that hot little Tidus from FF X was a guy, too! Damn ...
(ps: This is a joke, as was my previous post, in case you couldn't tell. I was commenting on the feminine look of many male characters in recent Final Fantasy games.)
Daeya.org has updated their report of the new Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Movie based on a special edition presentation. This new report contains full details (spoilers) about the first and second parts of this hyped DVD release as well as 26 never-before seen pictures of this CG motion pictures.
Daemon
I think less than 20 min. :p
5 Min: Talk from the Square-Enix Officials (inamazingly good english!) and Manager of the Theatre (in amazingly bad english with a quebecer accent)
7 Min: Scenes from a before-seen part released long time ago on teasers and trailers
15 Min: The silent and surprising time, new stuff revealed!
3 Min: The Credit Rollout
Daemon
First, there is no more Squaresoft. The company is now SquareEnix, a fact many people seem to forget, and I'm sure that has a major say in how things are run now (as opposed to then.) Furthermore, Hironobu Sakaguchi, the creator of the series, had only an advisory role in the creation of FFX, and no role in FFX-2, so he has since left SquareEnix. Another thing to consider. Lastly, this tradition of non-continutity may simply be the first thing on the chopping block as SquareEnix seeks to gain more market share in the United States; Not only does the company now have to deal with a major market (which the U.S. never was before FFVII) that isn't going to buy games JUST because they're made by SquareEnix (consider that many rabid Japanese fans have multiple VERSIONS of FFX and X-2), but they also have to deal with major competition from Namco's XenoSaga series (currently at two games and promising 6), with continutity as, apparently, somewhat of a selling point.
Hmmm...it's too bad the continuity couldn't come from FFIV (FFII USA)...that one had the most realistic characters and interesting storyline as far as I'm concerned. I don't know how much of a run for it's money the "Xenosaga" will be...I pretty much fell asleep at and lost interest in Xenogears...