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Verizon Taking FTTP Installation Orders
ooglek writes "Verizon is now qualifying and accepting installations for FTTP (Fiber To the Premises)! $39.95 for 5MB/2MB, $49.95 for 15MB/2MB, and $199.95 for 30MB/5MB. No word yet on whether Verizon will block ports (25, 80, etc) for incoming or outgoing traffic; with 2MB upload, I hope to basically run a small data center in my basement. Both phone and Internet will come through the fiber, and there is an unofficial rumor of video services as well by the end of this year. Got Fiber? My install date is November 2nd in Falls Church, VA (near DC). Several people in Keller, Texas have posted pictures and reported 14,679 kbps download and 1,794 kbps download speeds." Update: 10/26 23:52 GMT by T : That second "download" ought probably read "upload."
It takes me to the DSL order page, and tells me I already have it. Yes, I do, I never noticed. Thanks Verizon!
The 5MB/2MB pricing is great for my area. I get about 4MB/256KB right now for around $29/month. The biggest advantage to the fiber would be the 2MB upload speed which would be great as I send a lot of photos to my dad for a genealogical project. I went to Verizons site and my phone number doesn't qualify yet, but, I'm sure it will be eventually....
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Verizon has clearly stated that the "actual throughput speed will vary based on factors such as the condition of your wiring inside your location; computer configuration; network or Internet congestion; and the server speeds of Web sites you access, among other factors. Speed and uninterrupted use of the service are not guaranteed."
So how long will the 15/2Mbps last, and is Verizon at least giving guarantee on a minimum sustainable speed?
Rock that crushes, Paper & Scissors that don't matter.
As far as i got it, the ADSL lines had low upload because of technical limitations.
But why would these lines come in 5Mb/2Mb and not just 5/5 ?
The system had the verbosity of HTML combined with all the readability of compiled assembly viewed as bitmap images
and my phone no longer works either. sigh.
I wouldn't hold my breath.
From the summary:
... and reported 14,679 kbps download and 1,794 kbps download speeds.
Sorry Verizon, but if I can't upload those HTTP GET requests, I don't need any of your one-way fibre. Talk about asymmetric!
I hope to basically run a small data center in my basement.
don't you mean your mom's basement?
I came to the datacenter drunk with a fake ID, don't you want to be just like me?
I am getting fiber to the premisis installed this week, and it's 100Mbps up/down for ~25 bux / month.
I was complaining because VSL limits that to ~55Mbps.
Being in Japan just put things into a dirrerent perspective, I guess. So here is to consumers of America (of whom I will become one again all too soon) - DEMAND MORE!! it's kind of weird when the post get so excited even though it... erm... relly slow.
My life in the land of the rising sun.
$39.95 for 5MB/2MB, $49.95 for 15MB/2MB, and $199.95 for 30MB/5MB
In Tokyo (my home nw) that's DSL rates! Fibre STARTS at 100MBps! WTF?
I live in Huntington Beach, one of the first places this is rolling out. That said, I'm going to be content with my 3Mb/768k DSL until I'm sure there aren't any ridiculous "for entertainment only" policies on Verizon's books. My current ISP (SurfCity DSL) doesn't block ports, sells me a static IP for a small fee, and even sells IP address blocks for reasonable (~$20/mo) fees. Having all the bandwidth in the world is practically useless with a dynamic IP and having the major ports blocked.
I can't get Verizon to fix my 6 meg dsl, since DSL isn't supported, only voice lines are. Lucky Speakeasy isnt charging me the 99 dollars a month because I cant use the service.
I'm close to the CO, but something is wrong with the burried wire, and Verizon wont help me locate the issue. They tested the house, Covad did testing, thought the DSLAM was bad because it was bouncing, tested my PID, but everything looks fine. Just 3-6 times a day, the line drops and reconnects, all freaking burried wire too.
I'd kill for 5/2meg for 40 bux a month, 99 for 6/768 DSL that doesnt work is major suckage. Lucky comcast has 3/256, so im not bandwidth less, I just can't host any of my domains.
Verizon has such bad policies on support on copper, fibre must be a god send to customers needing support... Could even switch to VoIP too.
I'd even shut down my vanity domain Fuck Verizon if they fixed my DSL! Currently I have it re-directed to verizon eats poop...
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Awww yeah!
Your cell phone is still registered your residence - besides you can just give them a neighbor's phone #.
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I just submitted this story to /., I'm assuming it doesn't get listed.
Verizon and Motorola announce deal
Basically, they are using Motorola set top boxes to deliver video feeds off of their Fiber. I would expect it soon.
Disagreeing with me does not mean you get to mod me troll.
Nope - no servers allowed... so basically Verizon is continuing to be a WSP, not an ISP. I really wish more providers would just let me do what the heck I wanted to do with my connection - why should they care - just throw a QoS penalty on any traffic over xbits/sec that they don't want me to really use
I have mod points and I am not afraid to use them
Okay, I'll stop bragging now (:
For example, you might run smtp server on port 80 and http on port 25 and they would complete the tcp three-way handshake just fine.
That would work if you ran a server destined to never offer serivces to even a small group of people, but for normal, practical usage, it's... well, useless. Sure, you can append port numbers to your protocol directives, but it'll never be an ubiquitous internet side in the least. You can't accept SMTP traffic unless it's been directly MX'd from a "normal" server, you can't even bounce port 80 requests to the proper port since presumbly, you moved it OFF port 80 to prevent random connections or avoid upstream blocks. Port shuffling is usually considered poor design and the worst example (if used in this fashion) of security/obscurity
I wonder how the TOS nazis plan to handle P2P apps like BT?
...isn't accepting inquieries. Perhaps it lacks a little Fiber to the Premises?
Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress at this period in history.
It is only a test project in Keller TX. They expect a rollout to other areas after the completion of the test. Until then...it is still a BIG-PIPE dream. They did say they will be sending out a notification and advertising campaign when it becomes available in other areas.
You keep going until you die..."Me".
Generally speaking, no. Some ISP's will complain and threaten to cut you off if you use too much of your bandwidth, but some don't. For example, this month I've probably downloaded 100 gigs of data over my DSL line, plus uploads, and I haven't heard anything out of my ISP except them asking me to pay this months usual bill.
Necessity is the mother of invention.
Laziness is the father.
> Verizon: We were wondering. I've been getting calls all day.
Has a call center ever been slashdotted before?
Say it right: "Nuc-le-ah Powah".
Just got off the phone from Verizon. and the nice lady gave me some details of availibility.
1) First off, the Number that the script tells you to call (the (888) 662-8275 one) is wrong according to the person that I got on that line. She directed me to (888) 991-4999. Whether or not that's the right number for overall rollout I dont know, but it had all the answers I got. Not that you'll need to call after reading this.
2) From what she was seeing, it's still only available in the Texas area where it was deployed for it's Pilot Program. She wouldn't confirm where they were expanding the service, but she did confirm that it is going to expand in the coming months because it was very successful in the pilot program apparently.
3) She said that availability will be announced in your Verizon bill (If you get one) as soon as it's available in your area (probably to cover the costs of the equipment). the web site also will tell you about availibility whenever it's updated, but for right now it's Texas only.
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What about breaking it down to areas that are of similar size.
The most densely populated city in Japan is Tokyo. 8 million people in 630 square kilometres (13,000 per k2)
The most densely populated city in the US is New York. 8 million people in 830 square kilometres (10,000 per k2)
The most densely populated city in the world is Seoul. 10 million people in 615 square kilometres (17,000 per k2)
In Tokyo we have 100% ADSL availability offering 40 mbits down
there is also limited (~10%) FTTP availability offering 100 mbits
Why is there not even one company attempting to offer something similar in New York, Korea has near 100% availability of dsl and cable yet they too are limited to US like services.
The real reason we have insane connection bandwidth in Japan is because the telecoms monopoly is restricted from price gouging, they must lease there cables at a flat rate irrespective of the amount of data that flows over them.
When I had an ADSL connection I would pay $20 a month to NTT for the ADSL connection, then my ISP could push as much or as little data over that connection as they wished.
Now I have a Fibre connection, I pay $40 a month for the wire, I actually pay $70 a month to my ISP but I get a static IP range and national wireless coverage too over the AirH network.
The reason Japan has stupid fast internet connections, and the second highest broadband penetration in the world? Competition, who would have thought of it.
**** lying is wrong even for sleeping dogs
Verizon's FIOS is a passive optical network, which uses shared bandwidth on the downstream side (every home's equipment sees all the traffic) and time-division multiplexing on the upstream side (homes send data one at a time). That approach allows Verizon to have only passive, non-powered optical splitters in the field, sharing one fiber among as many as 32 homes.
Google passive optical network if you want to know more.
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What the hell is wrong with the moderators?
The fiber is there because the public (i.e., the government) enabled it.
Who the hell cares if the government enabled it, Verizon is spending the millions of dollars and putting in the time to make this possible. They should have monopoly rights on their investment and hard work. The government also "enables" stadiums to be built, large office buildings to be built, etc. The government doesn't then force the owners of Madison Square Garden to rent it out at a government-regulated rate. The government doesn't force the owners of the Empire State Building to lease out office space at a government-regulated rate.
The owners of these buildings (and other such properties or services) rent them out because it is in their financial interest to do so. The rate at which they are rented out is set by the fair market value. If it is in Verizon's interest to lease out their fiber lines then they will do so and the fair market value will determine the rate. We don't need the government stepping in to tell Verizon that XYZ is the rate that they can lease their fiber at and there's nothing they can do about it.
What we need is less regulation, not more of it.
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Verizon is laying the fiber along other people's property. It has the right to do this by virtue of government action: easements (rights to use someone else's land in a particular way) granted by way of or under threat of eminent domain (government-imposed surrender of property rights). Verizon (or Bell, long ago) used a special relationship with the government to get what it has, and so does not have the right to use it in an unregulated fashion.
Removing controls from large companies while letting them keep their special government-granted advantages does not create a free market. Free-market advocates who fail to understand this create broken economic systems when they succeed and give us all a bad name even if they don't. Please don't be one of them.