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Battery-powered Cigarettes?

Roland Piquepaille writes "According to Ananova, a Swiss company has developed a totally new type of smoke-free cigarette. You will be able to use it in non-smoking restaurants, and even in airplanes -- if you care for nicotine. But the PRAVDA, from Russia, adds that the product is far from perfect. It looks like a cigarette, it's used as a cigarette, but it's not a cigarette at all. Each pseudo-cigarette consists of a replaceable 'filter' containing the nicotine, and a heating element working on a battery, recharged by the 'pack' of cigarettes. The company, NicStic, says its product is good for smokers because it doesn't contain any tar, and for non-smokers, because there is obviously not passive smoking effect. It plans to introduce the product in Germany in about a year for a price similar as normal cigarettes. This overview contains more details about this pseudo-cigarette which might be sold in the U.S. in the near future."

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  1. uhh... by patrick.whitlock · · Score: 5, Informative

    don't they already have a nic. inhaler? called nicotrol, if im not mistaken

    1. Re:uhh... by Viceman001 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yeah, it's nicotrol. I tried it when I quit. They were okay, but I think the added 'heating' would give a much better effect, simulating hot smoke. Mmmm, makes me want one now.....

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    2. Re:uhh... by krygny · · Score: 4, Funny

      ..."it tasted like sh*t. Literally!"...

      Literally?! And who was qualified to make that evaluation? Flys? Puppies? Oh, of course - tobacco executives.

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  2. but by The+Unabageler · · Score: 4, Funny

    one of the great pleasures of being a smoker is pissing off the non-smokers. I guess I'll have to eat more beans.

    oh, and first post or something.

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    1. Re:but by Ionizer7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You do alot more than piss off the non-smokers, you kill them. Please stop.

    2. Re:but by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Must... Annoy... People... At... All... Cost... ... Even... If... It... Risks... Severe... Medical... Problems... In... The... Future...

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    3. Re:but by The+Unabageler · · Score: 4, Funny

      oh I'm killing them too? excellent! My plan to take over is nearly complete, only 100,000 more cartons and you should all be dead! MUAH HA HA HA HA

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    4. Re:but by stienman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      'Secondary smoke' is no more dangerous than anything else.

      I suppose that's why I get a severe asthma attack from second hand smoke. The only other thing that gives me as bad an attack are sulfites - used to be used to preserve fresh foods. No longer generally recommended as safe. (GRAS)

      But hey, I guess decades of studies could be wrong. Perhaps you know better.

      Or perhaps you are simply in denial. Apply Occam's razor liberally over affected area until delusions subside. If conditions worsen, please see your local FDA representative.

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    5. Re:but by pjwhite · · Score: 4, Funny

      Smoke faster.

    6. Re:but by Dun+Malg · · Score: 4, Informative
      Take a candel and take a piece of metal say a knife. Put the knife over the flame where the smoke is coming from. Wait about 5 minutes and look at the tar on your knife.

      That's not tar, that's candle soot from unburned wax. Cigarettes do not deposit candle soot in your lungs. A better thing to have him do is cut open the filter after smoking the cigarette. Then again, that never stopped ME...

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  3. Interactions? by skraps · · Score: 4, Funny

    Are there any interactions with the nicotine patch and gum that I use?
    Is it ok to smoke regular cigarettes and this at the same time?

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  4. where do i get by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    the marijuana flavored ones?

  5. Michael Shilling for RR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Is there a reason why michael is constantly posting stories from Roland Piquepaille?

    Roland is just using slashdot to direct traffic to his shitty weblog, and now he even has his own domain!

    How much is michael getting on the side to plug this guy?

    1. Re:Michael Shilling for RR by HBPiper · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe Michael IS RR.......
      Oh, and the Walrus is Paul.

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  6. Not as cool by arhar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think it'll find much success, because it won't be as 'cool' as a regular cigarette. Much of th e reason people start to smoke (at the young age) is the ability to flip the ligher (in a cool way), light the cigarette (in a cool way), and exhale the smoke - in a cool way, looking like a suave motherfucker.

    1. Re:Not as cool by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It is not for the punk kid who is trying to be cool. It is for the adult addict. So he can get his fix while not making the non-smokers sick, or asked to stop or they need to leave the building.

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  7. New moochers by OneBigWord · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dude, can I bum a AA?

  8. Re:no for typical smokers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I built a similar device while in Design School, but due to the size of available components, it looked more like an arts marker and less like the cigarrete. And it was a HUGHE SUCCES with the average smokers at school. Where, of course, the average smoker smoked ten times more hash oil and plain skunk than nicotine. The trick was keeping it just above 80C but below 90C, that way you get most of the alcaloid, but none of the easily-recognized-by-autorithies smell.

  9. Old news... by dfn_deux · · Score: 5, Informative

    RJ Reynolds developed a system similar to this in the late 80's and was shot down by the FDA. It seems that the FDA considered this a drug and drug delivery device and not a cigarette. Which of course means lots and lots and lots of expensive "drug" testing. However there is a japanese company that makes an electrical heating element device for normal cigarettes which supposedly "vaporizes" the nicotine for inhaltion without smoke, I wish I had a link. IIRC there was some mention of this in a PBS special many years back called "the search for a safe cigarette"...

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  10. This is so cool... by mekkab · · Score: 3, Funny

    That I'm gonna take up smoking again!

    Don't get me wrong; I'm not addicted to nicotine. I've quit hundreds of times!

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  11. No passive smoking effect? by Avian+visitor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...because there is obviously no passive smoking effect.

    1) User of this new contraption breathes a lung-full of nicotine-air mixture.

    2) Some of the nicotine from the air is deposited in user's lungs, providing whatever pleasures smokers get from it.

    3) The rest of the nicotine-air mixture (although a bit less concentrated) is expelled from user's lungs and into the surrounding atmosphere.

    4) An anonymous non-smoking bystander breathes some of the remaining nicotine that the user expelled a few moments.

    5) Some of the nicotine is deposited in his lungs against his will.

    No passive smoking effect? Yeah right...

    (I don't smoke if you haven't figured that out yet)

    1. Re:No passive smoking effect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You whining baby!
      Like the SUV you drive doesn't force toxic gasses into my lungs!
      If you want it to stop, either help private space companies get us the hell out of here, or move to boulder, co.

  12. Not really by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    most smokers smoke because Nicotine is an adictive depressant. You'll find that the bulk of smokers are in high stress jobs, especially poorly paying ones. People generally don't smoke because they want to. It's something they tried as a kid, and now that they're an adult, with all the stress and misery that comes with adulthood, they can't stop.

    A better solution would be to force the tobacco companies to sell Nicotine free cigarettes. Not that they ever will. I remember a story in Wired where the only people who would grow them were the Amish. After all, what multi-national corp in its right mind would take out what makes its product popular? The funny thing is Nicotine is odorless and tasteless, so taking it out wouldn't hurt the 'cool, crisp' taste of your smokes one bit, but you might just loose your reason for smoking along the way...

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  13. Yeah you are missing the taxes by Delta-9 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The taxes that are imposed on the Tobacco which are used to create those nasty smoke sticks.

  14. This was done in 1988. by Darth+Muffin · · Score: 3, Informative
    Called the Premeir, by RJ Reynolds.

    http://www.fact-index.com/p/pr/premier_cigarette.h tml

    It failed badly. For one, consumers didn't like it. Two, it was deemed a drug delivery system and not a cigarette. That not only complicated sales from a legal distribution POV, but it meant the tobacco companies were admitting that nicotine was addictive and that they were addicting their clients, thus opening them up for lawsuits.

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  15. Smoking is actually nice... by DroopyStonx · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I used to smoke, and I miss it.

    Seriously. It was nice and relaxing. The only reason I stopped was because, obviously, it's not that great for you.

    But at least something like this makes it so that if you want the effect of nicotine, you don't have to shell out $40 for a pack of nicotine gum.

    Yeah, nicotine isn't GOOD for you, but neither is alcohol and people still do that. At least this isn't nearly as bad as inhaling all that tar and smoke!

    There will always be a passive effect... you exhale the nicotine, surely someone near you would inhale a part of it, but still, better than cigarettes themselves.

    Good improvement!

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  16. Second hand smoke DOES NOT kill non-smokers by gpinzone · · Score: 4, Informative

    > You do alot more than piss off the non-smokers, you kill them. Please stop.

    Bullshit.

    1. Re:Second hand smoke DOES NOT kill non-smokers by dlakelan · · Score: 3, Informative

      Bullshit Bullshit

      There is good scientific evidence that secondhand smoke exposure increases the risk of heart attack in the general population.

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    2. Re:Second hand smoke DOES NOT kill non-smokers by 3terrabyte · · Score: 3, Insightful
      You should return to your bubble, bubble-boy.

      I'm not even on the side of the smokers, but I'm definately not on your side. I have a young relative with Cystic Fibrosis, and if we're in a situation where her breathing might become impaired, she'll don a mask. We've either asked people to politely quit smoking, or leave if it was at the end of our meal. When we're sick ourselves and handling her, we'll don masks ourselves.

      But mandate laws around you? Grow a backbone and quit whining on a web site.

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  17. Re:Bad idea by Iamthewalrus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Anything which reduces the health barrier to nicotine addiction is a bad thing. Period.

    That's a terrible position to take, unless you think that smokers somehow morally "deserve" the health problems they end up with. Obviously, if we could reduce the health effects of nicotine addiction to insignficant levels, then smoking wouldn't have to be a big deal. Even reducing them slightly might mean that those who are addicted have a better chance of living longer and more happy lives.
    How on earth could that be a bad thing?

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  18. Re:I'll say this anonymously by geomon · · Score: 4, Informative

    You smoke, you die.

    Don't smoke.....


    You still die.

    It is just a matter of time and place.

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  19. Re:Bad idea by raider_red · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Anything which reduces the health barrier to nicotine addiction is a bad thing. Period.

    Why? If nicotine isn't harmful in and of itself, what's wrong with someone voluntarily using it? Nobody seems to complain about caffeine addiction after all.

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  20. Eclipse by Sheepdot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm a smoker of Eclipse cigarettes. While I've quit and started smoking twice in my life, I've found recently that these cigarettes do not inhibit my life at all. They are essentially smokeless cigarettes, the smoke that is produced is odorless (smells like burnt paper) and doesn't come off in thick rings from the end of the cigarette as I smoke it.

    Generally speaking, innovations made in producing a 'healthy cigarette' usually involve a lot of cost, but these cigarettes are usually sold at the same price as Marborlo Lights. They also come in menthol.

    With 80% less additives, I think I'll stick to these unless the new battery-powered cigarettes actually end up cheaper.

  21. Re:no for typical smokers by Three+Headed+Man · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you're talking about plain old vaporizers, then that's different. If you're thinking of just extracting a few cannabinoids into a filter, and allowing people to inhale them, that's more like what the article is on.

    For a while, the cigarette companies experiemnted trying to make a "safer" cigarette. I saw a special on TV about it, and the one I remember involved painting pretty much pure nicotine on the inside of a glass tube along with glycerine or something else that produced harmless smoke when burned. The smoker then would play a lighter underneath the glass tube while inhaling, giving him harmless, high dosages of nicotine. The only real problem with this was you looked like a crackhead.

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  22. Re:Smokeless... by winkydink · · Score: 3, Funny

    I guess there's no real substitute for the voice of experience, is there?

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  23. Quit smoking! It stinks! by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 3, Informative

    Cigarettes STINK...
    People that smoke, STINK..
    I smoked 3 packs a day, full tilt, until the day I quit, Dec. 26, 1998..

    I smoked from the time I was 14 until I quit at 37.

    So, I'm fully qualified to BITCH at people about smoking.

    Nicotine is a poison. They used to (and may still) put it in Black Flag roach poison.
    Look it up if you don't believe me.

    And the stench is unbearable. I have several friends that smoke and when they bring their computers over for me to work on I have to leave them plugged in and running in my garage for at least two days to get the stench out of them before bringing them inside. ALL of their stuff is PISS yellow, keyboards, mice, monitors all gunked up and sticky.
    Yuck!..

    One guy just brought me his computer because the power supply burned out. Why? Smoke. The nicotine gunked up the cooling fan in the power supply so badly that it quit spinning and the power supply burned up. He's lucky, wait until the fan on his CPU does the same thing.

    The inside of his computer is DISGUSTINGLY filthy. I hate to even touch it it's so nasty.

    And when I go to any of my smoking friends houses, I have to take my clothes of in the garage and drop them straight into the washer or they will make my house stink. I have to take a shower right away after I get home, it makes my hair stink, everything. And that's just from being in the house where they smoke, and they don't smoke while I'm there!

    When they pull out some cigarettes I tell them "Oh, time for a suicide stink stick eh?"

    And for those that dip or chew tobacco, ever seen someone with mouth cancer? It's enough to make you vomit. The sight is worse than anything you would see in a horror movie.

    I hate going to the store where people throw their stinking butts on the ground, the entrance at the stores stink, it's like walking through a gas chamber just trying to get into the store..

    I think they should make tobacco totally illegal, the use, sale, growth, purchase, etc.. Get caught using tobacco, go to jail, felony, 1 year 1st offense.
    Get caught selling tobacco, charge, attempted murder, penalty, DEATH. 1st offense..

  24. Is Roland Piquepaille the new John Katz??? by jimkski · · Score: 3, Funny
    John Katz disappears and Roland appears to fill his place.

    As you know, nature abhors a vacuum...

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  25. It depends by daveo0331 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you're around secondhand smoke a lot, over a long period of time -- like if you're married to a smoker or you spend several years working in smoky bars or casinos or wherever -- there's a good chance this will cause some health problems of some kind. If you get a lungful of cigarette smoke once in a while as you leave a building or pull up next to a smoker at a red light or visit friends/relatives who smoke or watch movies where the characters smoke, it's not going to hurt you.

    Think of it this way: Big Macs are unhealthy. Cyanide is also unhealthy. The difference is that eating one Big Mac isn't going to kill you. Cigarettes are unhealthy like Big Macs. If you smoke, quit, and if you don't smoke, don't start. But at the same time, don't freak out over every cubic millimeter of cigarette smoke that happens to touch you.

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    1. Re:It depends by gpinzone · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What's amazing is your inability to understand that the smoke getting injected into the smoker's lungs is more potent than the smoke by-product puffed and diffused into the air.

  26. Re:Bad idea by goodydot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I smoke. I have NO DOUBTS that it's bad for me and could cause an early demise. Anybody 25 and older has known this their whole lives. Same goes for eating really fatty foods, not excercising, and drinking too much. There is no secret here, and I have never lamented that the tobacco companies have 'done this' to me. I've done it to myself, and I CHOOSE to continue. I know many people who have quit...tough as it is it can be done IF YOU WANT TO. I don't, so I smoke. So yes, in fact, I think I DESERVE what I get as a result. There is NO excuse for me to not quit, except that I don't want to, and there is NO excuse for anybody else who is still smoking. We're doing it to ourselves. I know it's addicting, but that just means it's more difficult to quit, not impossible. I don't feel sorry for myself or anybody else who smokes, and neither should you. I, and many others, would not like it if the gov't forced alcohol companies to start selling alcohol-free products only...drinkers WANT it, so they should have it. I WANT my nicotine, and if I choose to buy smokeless cigarettes so that I won't be inconvenienced by a desire to smoke, that's a terrific option. If I CHOOSE to smoke regular cigarettes outside in the snow, then I have to live with my choice. I think it sucks, but then I think GW sucks, and look where we are.

  27. Available today, here in the US: by scosol · · Score: 3, Informative

    At my local 7-11 even:

    Eclipse Cigarettes by RJ Reynolds

    You light it like a normal cigarette, but what you're actually lighting is a graphite rod that burns slowly and provides heat. Then then you inhale it heats up a packet of tobbaco which releases nicotine and water vapor but that's about it. (It works like a vaporizer)

    No smoke, just water vapor and a different taste, and all that sweet sweet nicotine! :)

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  28. Re:I'll raise you two... by LGagnon · · Score: 5, Funny

    But just for the record, I think smoking is a vile nasty habbit.

    Nasty habbitses, stealing my precious lungs.