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iTunes Accepts PayPal
lemist writes "Apple Computer Inc. on Friday said customers of its iTunes online music store can now use eBay Inc.'s online payment service PayPal to buy songs and audiobooks, becoming the second major online music store to do so. Story here."
There goes all the money I set aside for my Christmas shopping.
I keep clicking on the word "here" but I get no story.
They may be now accepting Paypal, however your Paypal account must be linked to a credit card, which makes it completely pointless.
I don't know how they can accept PayPal and still make a profit. Doesn't PayPal charge a per transaction fee on top of the percentage fee?
Can overseas buyers buy from iTunes USA @ USD 99 cents?
I've been looking for "useful" shops that accept PayPal so that I can use those money without losing on exchange rate.
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You don't need a credit card to use PayPal. Just having a bank account is enough. You can't become a "Verified" member without a CC, but you generally don't need to be Verified.
Works from my PayPal account, and I'm australian!
of course, I also have US info on it. But don't tell.
The shiznit!
Since paypal accepts debit payments to my knowledge, this opens the itunes market to those under the age of 18 in the United States. Not that they would pay for music...
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Debit and prepaid Visa/Mastercard have existed for years, and they work with the iTunes store.
Too bad it's against the Paypal TOS for people under 18 to have accounts.
Great! Now I can send them the money I don't have with paypal too.
No they dont. Service was pulled for unspecified reasons mid this year.
Conspiracy theorists have had a field day as to why (think: RIAA). Its been really inconvenent because no-one wants to hand their CC # to russians. Although having said that, its a damn good service.
DRM-locked music vendor takes new payment form. News at 11. Oh, wait--it's our beloved Apple?! OMG Why didn't you say so? +1, FP!!!!
First Paypal then...eBay itself! Imagine being able to auction off iTunes songs you thought were badass but now think are just ass (I'm talking to you, Incubus fans) via the iTunes music store interface. Oh yeah, and Apple could control supply of super-popular songs to prop up its eBay side in a sort of DeBeer's-ish artificial price inflation mechanism. What? Little Miss Jailbait's latest hot-hot-hot single is burning up the charts? Too bad, only 100 people can buy the song directly. I guess this would be a good time for one of those trez-fashionable Slashdot "1)X 2)Y 3)?? 4)Profit!" sort of lines.
This is what services like Webcertificate were made for. It creates a stored value MasterCard which you could use to limit your exposure when using something like this. As an added bonus, last time I experimented, there's no verification of the recipient's name, providing a layer of obfuscation (not anonymity, since I'm sure Webcertificate would give you up in a heartbeat if anyone with a badge asked).
I too have felt the cold finger of injustice.
I just checked. "Temporarily unavaliable".
They Might Be Giants sell songs for $0.99US, too, and the $$ goes directly to the artists. Sorry, no PayPal.
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If you don't have an iTMS account yet, Paypal will give you 5 songs when you create a new iTMS account and link it with a Paypal account. Only for the first 500,000 people, but the promotion just started days ago so should be good for a while. I signed up Friday and got my 5 songs without any problem. Here's the link to the details on Paypal's website: 5 free iTMS songs
Just in case you didn't know, allofmp3 exploits a loophole in Russian copyright law, thus they PAY NOTHING for their content from non-russian artists.
You might as well use Kazaa...It's ripping people off just the same.
I'm working on it.
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I've just been copying stuff over with gnupod myself. Works fine.
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Ok, so I went to itunes.com, and poked around, and found all sorts of info on how great it was, and how easy, yet nowhere can I find a link to actually select music to check out with for download.
...and if I purchase music through them how much money goes to the artist?
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Does anyone else notice how /. is getting behind the times? This news is 2 days old at best.
Obligatory link ... PayPal Sucks!
http://www.paypalsucks.com/
One should NEVER give their bank account number to PayPal - if forced to give more information, give them a credit card number at most... better yet, skip the PayPal nonsense and pay with a credit card directly at itunes.
Ron Bennett
It would be really neat to see where paypal could take a currency system. For now, many online stores prices are posted in the local currency in use, whether it be American or Canadian Dollar, the Euro, etc. If any form of online trading becomes universal and widely adopted, prices could be posted in paypal dollars; call them Paydols (I dunno... work with me). If prices were posted in Paydols it might transition to the physical world---you could pay for goods at a store with X amount of Paydols instead. If you could buy most things with a Paydol account, people might accept payments. You could transfer money from person to person with cell-phone administration of your paypal account. Obviously, I'm getting carried away, but having a system like iTunes accepting paypal transactions could be a big step on a long-road to a universal currency.
Of course it's due to the "undefined" legal status. Paypal wants to be seen as legit and allowing people to pay for "illegal" MP3s isn't going to fly with them any more than allowing themselves to become the gold standard for porn and child modeling sites (which they also shut down some months ago).
I've had zero issues with allofmp3. Of course I don't have a high cc limit and I don't look to change it, and I keep it close to maxed out all the time so it's not like they could rip me off.
My only beef with allofmp3 is their selection of russian artists is (ironically) pretty limited, their selection of techno even more limited, and their rip quality seems pretty bad even for the what they claim are "lossless digital" originals. My guess (based on my own experiences with "original" russian CDs) is they don't even have ready access to non-pirated "originals" - which means their own "masters" are simply bootleg CDs which were, themselves, authored from someone else's MP3 rips.
Now Magnatune...Magnatune has awesome quality and a good selection of music I like and a great support system.
And... they also take paypal.
I always pay with a credit card. I get no service fees. I get no annual fee. I pay it off every month. It is like having 30 days free use of money.
And on top of it I get 2-5% back on purchases.
And on top of that, my monthly budget can be downloaded and auto-categorized. Saves me many hours of work.
And on top of that, it is nice to be able to dispute a charge when you don't get what you paid for.
And on top of that, I am much more protected from fraud (all my cards have 0 liability).
So why wouldn't I want to use a credit card?
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Parent brings up a good point though. Paypal money really is monopoly money. It's not guaranteed by the FDIC. I read somewhere a while back, maybe on /., how people's money is spread out amongst many regular bank accounts. If they went belly up, would customers lose their money. I think the only guarantee they can give is by faith, but not legally backed.
Well sure, but it's generally illegal. Usenet and the various P2P networks are cheaper still.
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sorry Captain - just checked it again - it works (at least in russian lang-based version) and fresh U2, Eminem, etc are coming my way...
Very little of the money goes to artists. They pay a small pittance to an organization that allows radio stations to broadcast music without a per song royalty fee. This service however "broadcasts" in the form of downloadable files (mp3, ogg, flac... etc). The "product" is legal in Russia, and as there are no export restrictions on music files importing them is also legal. Just like buying a German book on Amazon.de might be cheeper than buying it on Amazon.com.
I have used the service and find it to be absolutely outstanding. The artists aren't getting a lot of money from the deal, but I'm not paying a lot for it. If this service can provide a song ripped however you choose at $0.01 per MB, how can a service like apple ($0.99 per song) not pull a profit? Because the RIAA is raping them, and us. They use loopholes in the system to limit the music we purchase and to inflate the prices we pay. Services like this allow us to legaly get what we want.
The parent post isn't about transferring music to an iPod. The point is that you currently can't access iTMS without using iTunes, and there's no iTunes for Linux.
Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together.
Topps is actually doing this kind of scheme with baseball cards through a program they call eTopps.
When you buy an eTopps card, you get an actual baseball card. However, unless you ask for it they never send the card to you, it's locked up in a secret vault where Topps maintains it in pristine condition. As long as you let your card stay in the vault, you can sell it on a special section of eBay.
New cards come out in "Intial Player Offerings" or "IPO"s where the cards are offered for direct purchase, but if too many people request the cards some get it and some don't, causing there to be an instant pent up demand for the card on the eBay trading floor.
It's almost exactly the scheme the parent poster is describing...
My Citicard offers a virtual credit card number, I think other cards offer similar services, that might be a good way to protect yourself.
Oh, I get it. Ripping off artists is okay, as long as you're ripping off record execs at the same time. Thanks for the clarification!
Interesting, but you know, most people probably have the opposite perspective: Linux won't do them any good until it's capable of running iTunes. Sorry, just the way it is.
Did you actually read your first paragraph before you wrote your second paragraph?
You can even use a "Matricular Consular" card, issued by the Mexican Government or any back-alley forger worth his salt, as ID to open a valid US bank account - US Citizen or not.
So, I see no obstical to becoming a full-fledged on-line citizen either (an appearing as a USA bank account holder).
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
Linux is fine, but use the right tool for the right job. If you want the best of home user need covered, use the OS that was intended for that.
That's not hard to figure out.
Virtually nothing is better than actually nothing.
A slashdotter who didn't build his own computer is like a Jedi who didn't build his own lightsaber.
Seriously, though, I'm sure there's something buried in the fine print that says you can't resell iTunes songs. Remember, the product comes from the same recording industry that wanted to ban the sale of previously owned CDs so that you had to pay full price for a new one (which, if they'd been successful in banning sales of used CDs, would have suffered 100% depreciation the instant you bought it).
I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.
Just in case you didn't know, nobody gives a fuck.
People download music from sites like allofmp3 because they don't have to worry about *AA. Not to do the "right thing".
^^
Yeah, because credit card companies are completely above board and treat their customers with complete integrity.
I have to admit I find it a bit disingenuous when Steve Jobs starts talking about the "great karma" of buying music online, yet with their DRM and their refusal to support Linux systems, there is no legitimate way for Linux users to join in on their little "revolution".
Largely due to their unqiue intellectual property model, which is surpsingly under-utilised elsewhere on the 'net. For those of you who aren't familiar with it, it's called the "Ha ha, fuck you - we're all the way over in Russia. Come get us! :-)" model.
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Actually, there is some insurance via FDIC passthrough insurance, described here. Note this only applies if you keep a balance in your PayPal account, and do not choose to use their money market option.
This does assume that PayPal keeps accurate records so the FDIC can determine who owns what in the account. It also assumes that it is a FDIC-insured bank that fails, and not PayPal becoming insolvent. If PayPal goes under, they presume their user agreement protects users' money. See the above link for details.
Out of all my time on /., that comment ranks up as #1 on my laughter chart.
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Oh wait, I pointed out that I'll get modded down... now I'll wind up +5 Informative.
PayPal to buy songs...becoming the second major online music store to do so
Uh, what's the first?
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If you are casually selling something on PayPal, you need to stop and read the fine print in detail. I had not dealt much with PayPal and I found someone on Craigslist who was willing to purchase my old Powerbook.
We both lived in the Dallas Metroplex so agreed to meet in a well known and trafficed area. He liked what he saw and then and there I watched him log into his PayPal account and transfer the money into my account. Pulled up my account and verified it was there and thought we had a done deal. Handed over the laptop.
Thought the money was safe in the PayPal account so I could use it for a purchase the next month. Logged in weeks later and found that this person had notified PayPal that I had frauded him (the buyer) and PayPal reveresed the money. Only way I was contacted by PayPal was through an email that got picked up by the Spam Filters of my ISP.
Dealing with PayPal's customer support was not pleasant. I received no sympathy and they treated me like I was the criminal in this case. They only contact customers via email and it is assumed you have received it if you don't respond within 4 days. I as a seller would only be protected had I shipped the laptop with tracking and signature verification. Turns out even if I had known they were processing my account for fraud it wouldn't have even mattered and they automatically assume the seller guilty. Seller beware of the fine print I say..
Moral of the story, know what you are doing and the rules of PayPal if it involves an amount of money you would prefer not to lose.
BTW- This person sells on eBay through the same name as his PayPal account (all fake contact info) and was brave enough to sell my Powerbook under the same account. I have documented everything and the authorities are involved now, lets hope that gets somewhere.
-Stormy
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when their's Ebay? I'm serious. I just bought 30 CDs for ~$100 dollars (expensive japanese CDs no less). At 10 songs average (give or take) that's ~300 songs or ~.33 cents a song. Beats the hell out of iTunes. Yeah, you can't get everything one ebay, but you can't get everything on iTunes either. And I've got liner art, lyrics, and high quality pressed CDs that aren't nearly as susceptible to bit rot.
I guess it's nice getting _exactly_ the song you want, but still, I just don't get the appeal of iTunes. Unless the content providers start craming it down our throats by phasing out CDs (yeah, they probably will), I can't see it as being more than a passing fad after the novelty wears off.
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actually if you ask them about it they'll give you a paypal account to work with. then you just give them your allofmp3 account name and they automatically give you a gb of download. I recharged my account a week ago and this took about 4 minutes from the paypal transaction to the recharge of the account.
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It's about cottonpickin' time that other sites besides eBay begin integrating with PayPal. I mean, seriously, how the devil is PayPal to be taken seriously if it's an eBay-only technology?
yeah but at least you dont have to ass around to get the song you want
most of the artists on allofmp3 are raking it in anyway by the billions of ppl who do buy cds - and who will continue to even if they were offered allofmp3 as an alternative
the record companies and the artists who *choose* to sign up to them can bloody well fix their distribution models when enough ppl get fed up and choose other methods
im sick of hearing about the poor artists - people in heaps of different industries relgularly get screwed because someone brings out a better way of doing their job or offering their services, and thats just business.
i would have thought you capitalists would be happy for the entrepreneurial russians, who bloody well have it harder than poor starving artists.
you hate commies but when they out-sell you you cant hack it. bah!
ok rant over.
Hmmm sounds like the same way I feel about the Nazis and the Nigerians.
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Hey this is such great news! Can you also let us know about every new song they put up too. Every little bit of iTunes news is just so enthralling!
"it's called the "Ha ha, fuck you - we're all the way over in Russia. Come get us! :-)" model."
So THAT must be what "Step 2 ???" is.
Either the quality of music has taken a sharp nose dive in ten years, or it must be because I'm now 31 instead of 21. Nah, I don't think my age has anything to do with it as I once knew 40+ something friends that were more 'hip' to the music scene back in the day. Nowadays, nobody my age will even touch the shit. Hell, I don't know anyone in their 20's that want to listen to it, either.
Nah, it must be the kiddies or something. Or maybe it's that those teenage boys just get to masturbating over either those Brittney Spears or Jessica Simpson's CD covers because neither one of those bitches can sing worth a damn.
Maybe I am an old fart. Who know? But that's the only opinion that I have on the subject.
Faithfully submitted,
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As someone who draws erotic cartoons for a living, I learned early on about how Paypal refuses to perform any payment transactions involving adult material (in fact, they'll fine sellers $500 for adult material).
So how does that differ from iTunes, where any variety of "Parental Advisory" labeled music can be dowloaded?
Just because you can mod me down, doesn't mean you're right. Shoes for industry!
Kinda wished that I knew sooner, but at least now I can put an end to that crap. With my debit card, I can simply tell the bank and say it was unauthorized and fill out a little form. Thanx for the link.
http://www.allofmp3.com/
WINE is not an enemy to your desire to run iTunes under Linux
Just to second this: I stopped accepting PayPal for payment after I shipped someone a bar of silver and then they claimed to PayPal that their card had been used fraudulently and got a full refund.
PayPal are a bunch of fuckers you simply cannot trust with your money.
Bad analogies are like waxing a monkey with a rainbow.
You know what? good for Russia. The ol' US of A used to be the biggest IP thief in history around the times of Charles Dickens. Have a read at this.
Having no IP protection to speak off (including patents) was a great way to exploit other countries works of arts and inventions without having to pay for royalties. For a while it helped make the US what it is now: the richest country in the world by far.
For the last 50 years or so the US have turned around and want to make everyone pay through the nose for Hollywood films, pop music, brand-name drugs and sport shoes.
It's only fair that the US and the West in general gets a taste of it's own medicine. I feel for the RIAA but I won't be so sad if it flounders and goes away. Music will not stop. If worse comes to worse you can always make your own or go to a local concert.
that is awesome. I personally prefer to use paypal on the internet if possible. It keeps everything nice and separate from my other bank / credit cards.
What is going to be funny is when Apple gets the standard Paypal "HA,HA, we just suspended your account and hijacked your money for six months." -form letter that paypal seems to send to just about everyone these days.
"Dear Paypal user APPLEITUNES INC.
We have noticed some unusual activity regarding your paypal account. For your saftey, we have limited your account access. To restore access, please complete checklist below and your account will be reviewed in 7-30 business days, when we will simply ask you for more extremely personal info, even though we have already made the decision to limit your account access indefinately, even though you have done nothing wrong.
Please complete the following steps to restore access:
1. Provide proof of inventory and invoices for all 1.2 million songs you provide.
2. Provide the names and phone numbers of all companies that provide you with your 'inventory'
3. Provide us with your Social Security number.
4. Provide us with copies of your utility bills at 101 Apple Ln.
5. Provide us with copies of your bank statements for the past year.
6. Change your password and password hints
7. Confirm your credit card
8. Confirm your bank account
Once this checklist is complete, we will still ask you for the same info over and over again, with no valid reason, and we will hold all funds in your paypal account for 180 days and then release them to you.
Thanks for choosing Paypal
Sincerely
Mark
Paypal "Investigations"
"Jeremy, you need to get to an internet cafe and cut and paste some appropriate sentiments about me from the world wide
While I like very much the concept of PayPal - which allows me to quickly send money without revealing my CC number, they do behave like nasty monopolists and terminate accounts without telling the reason why.
Look what they did to Clay, the artist of Sexy Losers - they terminated his account just like that, without explaining anything besides claiming he violated their TOS.. and they did that to many other people.
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Maybe I'm just missing something, as I just came off of a 12 hour nightshift, but where did I go wrong? I explained the system and why it is legal, and then explained why I felt that we were just to use it. I'm sure it's me missing something, but I have no idea where :-/
Your request may not apply to ACH reversals. So for example you *withdraw* say $100 from PayPal to your bank account ... PayPal could potentially reverse that payment up to 60 calendar days later - a way around that problem is request paper checks / use PayPal's debit card.
Ron
Slashdot reported on a October 11 about some server problems caused by a software update. The problem lasted for several days and cause a lot of grief to people on eBay who depended on PayPal as their primary source of income. When PayPal resolved their problems, they offered to refund some money for lost income, but it wasn't enough to smooth over hard feelings created from the incident. Luckily, Apple doesn't depend on PayPal as it's sole means of payment. Those that do should look into secondary payment processing as a back up.
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me, you insensitive clod
"Paypal money really is monopoly money. It's not guaranteed by the FDIC."
If that's your criteria, then most people's money is 'monopoly' money. Those mutual funds and stocks where people have their retirement are 'not guaranteed by the FDIC'.
A.
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. Provide us with copies of your utility bills at 101 Apple Ln
What? You didn't know that Apple's address is the rather ironic 1 Infinite Loop?
I have blog like everyone else
I think Paypal did a good job - they didn't have to compensate "us" at all.
It was a nice gesture on their part and for you to assume that Paypal - with its ENORMOUS bandwidth/customer service burden - should be up up 365 days a year without a single glitch is just ludacris.
In case you haven't noticed, the new front page is more user friendly and transactional searches are almost 50% faster. That was compensation to me.
I also listed more than normal the day they gave transactional fees.
Yell & scream & rant & rave... it's no use... you need a shaaaave ~ Bugs Bunny
And of course those that do reasearch on Paypal and find the paypalwarning.com and paypalsucks.com websites - also don't realize:
- Posts that praise paypal are deleted [often]
- Posts that try to assist users with problems are deleted
- Paypalsucks.com is sponsored by the competition - yowcow
- You are allowed to post anonymously and as registered
- There's a disporportionate # of comments to registered users
Paypal Ain't My Buddy
Yell & scream & rant & rave... it's no use... you need a shaaaave ~ Bugs Bunny
Let's face it. Hijacked Paypal accounts are common. Most of them are used to try and steal expensive electronics, shipping to 3rd party addresses. The easiest way to stop this is to match the ship-to address to the billing address of the account.
Think about online music purchases for a moment. They don't care about the ship-to address, so there's not going to be any address verification. And even if there was, there's nothing to ship!
If you think Paypal is going to eat the loss on hijacked accounts, you've got another thing coming. The only thing Paypal is concerned about is Paypal. Apple will eat a lot of losses from stolen Paypal accounts. The only question is how many Paypal hijackers are music thieves? Maybe not many, but while they're waiting for their electronics scams to materialize, they can certainly buy a crapload of music.
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Yeah, which is why you get your bank to create a special PayPal only account for you. If you sell a lot, just make sure to pull out the money at the end of day. If you buy a lot, you transfer money from your REAL bank account to your PayPal account, send the money to the person you're buying from and that's it.
Basically, this always leaves NO MONEY in that account. Of course, it helps to have a no-fee checking account that doesn't require $500+ balance or something like that. Even a low-fee account (say $2-5 per month) would suffice. If PayPal tries to grab that account - fsck 'em. They can have the $20 or whatever is in there.
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Or, more likely, there is no vault, and they'll just print the cards on demand if anyone actually wants them.
Don't blame me; I'm never given mod points.
I'm afraid Slashdot being behing the times isn't really a new development. Sorry, fearx.
I was wondering if this site was truely legal? The price was absolutely insanely cheap. It seems way too good to be true.
Uh, no. You are, for not recognizing sarcasm.
Their model is obnoxious - I dont want to download their stupid software (Nor do I have or use any platform its available for anyway), I just want to download music.
There is no functionaility required for finding, downloading, or playing music that requires special software.
Its like going to a Blockbuster to rent a movie, and finding that each movie is embedded into its own TV set with its own player, and you cant take it home and play it on *your* tv, with *your* player.
Y'know, I've been seeing people whine a bit about Apple's DRM, but it is far more liberal than most online music providers DRM, and, frankly, after using iTunes for a couple years now, I have yet to bump up against it. I have had no problem burning as many CD's as I like.
:-)
What's the big deal?
And, Doug, I am sorry to say, you DO sound like you're getting a bit grumpy in your old age LOL. Look around a bit. There is more good music out there than you might think...most of it below the pop radar. iTunes is, in fact, a great way to find it.
And now that they take monoply money, you don't even have to feel bad about it
Uh, no. You are
Are you serious? Did you really just "I'm not, you are" me?
I only came here to do two things; kick some ass, and drink some beer...looks like we're almost out of beer.
PayPal is for sellers so small they can't qualify for a merchant account and take credit cards. Why would anyone use PayPal to buy from Apple?
Why would anyone use PayPal to buy from Apple?
All it takes to open up a PayPal account is an exisiting bank account. For those who either can't get credit (too young, bad credit), or are worried about using credit on the Internet (my grandparents), a PayPal account is an excellent alternative for online purchasing. Simply put, Apple wants these users to prefer iiTMS (and thus iPod) when it comes to buying music online.
Take a look at the porn industry at large.
Sound and printed text has a much higher threshold before it's considered "adult material" or "objectionable content". Cartoon and video, being more visual, seem to have a much lower threshold.
Go browse the books in your local grocery store sometime. I first learned the term "throbbing manhood" while waiting in an express line.
Endless arguments over trivial contradictions in books written by ignorant savages to explain thunder in the dark.
refresh your page, you coward, before calling me a liar... Register, go to MyBalance and you'll see that PayPal is AVAILABLE then come back and apologize
Paypal money really is monopoly money.
And U.S. Federal Reserve Notes aren't?
In the first paragraph you explain how allofMP3 rips off the content providers (artists, labels, songwriters), and then in your second paragraph you go on to say something to the effect of: "Well, if these guys can sell it so cheap, it really shows us how bad iTunes prices are".
Also, it is not a legal way to get what you want. It is quite illegal outside of Russia, and still quite immoral in or out of Russia.
Buying music from them is like buying a used car stereo from some guy on a street corner
So you are both unable to recognize saracasm, *AND* unable to recognize when I point out that you are unable to recognize sarcasm?
/. readership.
So much for the average IQ of the
It's actually from South Park, from the Underpants Gnomes episode.
Artificial inflation sucks, but there's no way they're going to let us resell the songs to anyone else.
I wonder if the second moderator agreed that I was a troll but thought that I was an underrated one? Does that mean that I was very good at being a troll or very bad?
I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.
You may be looking for allofmp3.com, a perfectly legal digital music seller (RIAA propoganda notwithstanding), accepts paypal and will sell music to anyone, in any country, in just about any format you care for (including unencumbered versions of Apple aac if that's your thing).
They are located in Russia, licensed by the Russian eqiuvelent of the RIAA, and with current favorable exchange rates the music costs pennies on the dollar compared to iTunes or other western resellers. What's more, they have a better selection of music one cannot find at iTunes.
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what you want. When I first got Blondie's "No Exit", I only liked one or two songs. About half a year later I was board, so I listened to the whole album, and found I really, really liked the rest of the songs when I finnally sat down and listened to them. Yeah, you don't get this with the latest Britney Spears Opus, but then again I don't buy Britney Spears albums. If I just bought the 2 songs I wnated on iTunes, I'd probably never realized how great the rest of the album was.
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