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LAN Party at a High School?

Coolnat2004 asks: "I'm a high school student and a member of our technology group. Our school needs extra money for our technology, and I thought that a LAN party would be an effective, and exciting, solution. How can we make a great LAN party with the supplies at hand and make a profit while doing it? We have a network, but not a large enough room with enough ports. We're most likely going to create a detached network for the party, but don't know how to set it up because we have limited supplies. I guess we could seek a sponsorship from a local company, but that is unlikely to happen. Any suggestions on network layout, power layout, and general party to-do's?"

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  1. Why do you need money? by scythian · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What exactly do you need to raise money for? Can your group exist without fundraisers, or can you get funding directly from the school?

    Groups are a lot more fun when money isn't a big issue. Yes, I know it's tough, but if you try to cut out things like "rewards for officers" or whatnot, clubs are easier to run.

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    1. Re:Why do you need money? by MyDixieWrecked · · Score: 1

      during my 10th-12th grade years in HS (I graduated in 99, do the math), we had a videogame club. When we started, all of the machines were Pentium1/133s with 32mb of RAM and windows95 and we pretty much were only playing starcraft, duke nukem, doom2 and quake1 on the 32-computer network. We charged 10$ for the year to join and had constant fund raisers selling candy and soda and stuff like that (pretty much 90% of the funds we took in were from the people who were playing after school).

      It was the only club I ever joined and we even went on a trip to Great Adventure (NJ's Six Flags). We used the $ to buy memory for the machines and later, voodoo2 cards so we could buy and play other games like quake2, GTA1, starcraft, total annihilation, warcraft2 and other games like that that I can't remember...

      After columbine happened, we were reduced to meeting only once a week rather than 3 times, and the games were screened and only "less violent" games were allowed. The strange part was that GTA and quake1 were allowed, but starcraft and quake2 weren't. We played them anyway, though. =P

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    2. Re:Why do you need money? by colman77 · · Score: 1

      I know how the money thing goes; every club I'm in at school does independent fund-raising. Trust me, schools pay for nothing anymore. One club at my school sponsored a Halo 2 tournament. They had a 4-port router, 4 xboxes, and 4 projectors (courtesy of the school's library). It was tons of fun. About 30 people showed up throughout the day, and they charged 6 dollars for entrance. I'm not sure how much you need (probably a lot more than $180) but things ran smoothly, and setup was very easy.

  2. Consider It Carefully by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Well, unless you can get your hands on the necessary hardware and space, you're not going to be able to pull this one off. For a LAN party of any significant size, you're going to need large amounts of cabling, a solid power source, better-than-consumer-grade LAN hardware, folding chairs/tables, food, and a dedicated security team. You might consider contacting your local conference center, as they may have the capacity for such an event, because odds are that your school isn't really equipped to handle such a thing--even the power requirements would be tricky for your typical high school.

    Consider, too, that a LAN party can be a logistical nightmare; Google around and check out some of the horror stories out there about mid/large-scale LAN parties that have gone horribly awry due to a lack of planning. Consider that the onus of "getting it done right" will fall squarely on your shoulders, and that you'll need to be prepared to handle such things as n00bs with viruses, jerks with aimbots, kleptomaniacs with quick fingers, and chest-beaters who aren't afraid to let the bloodletting spill over into Real Life. Consider, too, that you'll need to coordinate with folks at your school in advance to decide on which games they're willing to let you all play. Finally, understand that you're not likely to have a single second to sit down and actually play if you're the organizer. You'll be busy days in advance and hours after the last person has gone home.

    Seriously--you may want to look at candy bars and car washes if your goal is to raise money. LAN parties are neither easy nor lucrative for the small operator.

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    1. Re:Consider It Carefully by Tr0mBoNe- · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree with this statement. Often, the LAN parties need to be run in structures that are designed for it. I know in Halifax, where I live, we have a few buildings designed, and fully stocked for small scale lans. These are rentable for a modest fee, and if you play your cards right, you can mark it up a bit and make a few bucks.

      LAN parties have never been known a profit magnas, so I would suggest something different. Mabey some sort of sale/car wash. They tend to produce some modest buckeroos, and are considerably easier to make.

      At my university, we have regular LAN parties, but we use classrooms that are wired with gigabit LANs and all the security we need from the university. Since each student gets a decently powered laptop, it's simple to run and the gamers just bring their computers with any prefiera they want. ,mmmmmmm cookie bake sales....

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    2. Re:Consider It Carefully by Otter · · Score: 3, Insightful
      To be a little more optimistic, maybe what you want to do is start small. Instead of trying to make money, try organizing a school LAN party, for free or minimal expenses. If you can make that fly a few times this year, then it's time to start thinking about opening up to a larger audience and maybe trying to make some money.

      Think about all the posts from dysfunctional-sounding people here -- do you want do have a learning experience at the expense of your friends' afternoon and three dollars apiece, or at the expense of some rabid nerd with no empathy or patience?

    3. Re:Consider It Carefully by TopShelf · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Bah - you complicate the issue too much. There's only one thing you truly need to make this a success:

      Cheerleaders.

      Seriously, an easy way to raise $$$ is by selling t-shirts. Come up with a clever design, and you can easily get people to pay $10 apiece for something that costs less than half that to procure. When I was in high school a group I belonged to did that and we raised well over $2000 in just a couple weekends...

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    4. Re:Consider It Carefully by Sepper · · Score: 1

      I'll have to agree with the parent post. You can't make a lot of money with LAN party, except if you use this as front to get people to donate money.

      But if you are just looking for a reason to trow a Lan Party, you better PLAN that Lan Party. If you fail to Plan, you Plan to fail.. This might help:
      http://www.lanparty.com/theguide/

      Anyway, good luck

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    5. Re:Consider It Carefully by Coolnat2004 · · Score: 1

      >But if you are just looking for a reason to trow a Lan Party And it is a darn good reason, no?

    6. Re:Consider It Carefully by dougmc · · Score: 4, Insightful
      too, that a LAN party can be a logistical nightmare;
      It gets worse. How do you think the school board will react when they learn that people are playing games that involve people shooting guns at each other? (I assume you won't all be playing Mario Kart or the equivilent?)

      How will the school feel about people who aren't students (I assume you won't restrict it to students) using the faculties? What if something goes wrong, either inside or out? A fight? Stolen equipment? (happens a lot when it's not just a bunch of friends) People smoking pot outside? (and trying to smoke (hopefully just tobacco) inside?)

      Or suppose that the principal decides to come down and make sure everybody has a legitimate copy of each game they're playing?

      Seriously, this doesn't sound like something the school would ever permit if they fully understood what they were getting into. And if you get them to approve it without them knowing what they're getting into, you run the risk of big trouble if things go wrong -- and the odds of that are pretty high, unless it's a small informal thing with just your friends, which isn't likely to generate any money whatsoever.

    7. Re:Consider It Carefully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention:

      If you have a large highschool - maybe 2,000 students, you'll have how many who would be interested in the LAN? Even if 3% were interested, that's 60 people. If half of them can arrange to make it and pay for it and you charge maybe $10, that's only $300. Then you have to consider any costs and trouble you might have with the school. They won't want people bringing machines from the outside into the school. They'll complain about the type of games you're playing. And if anything goes wrong with the network or the school's computers for the next six months, they're going to blame it on you and the other kids that were part of the LAN - even though it has nothing to do with you guys.

      Not to mention, this is like wearing a flaming red flag on your head that says "I'M A TOTAL LOSER - STICK ME IN THE LOCKER". Any guy planning to get laid before graduating would be smart enough not to attend.

      We're all geeks. That's fine. But you have to recognize that the majority of the world still uses "geek" and "nerd" and "dork" as a pejorative. They aren't complimenting you. They're dismissing you. If you question this, listen to the average teenage girl talking about geeks. They talk about it the same way they'd talk about getting a chunk of shit stuck on the bottom of their shoes.

      I, for one, would never have attended a LAN in highschool. Certainly not AT school. Then again, when I was in school, DOOM was still popular and everyone had a 486 at best and most people didn't even HAVE a computer. So it wasn't even an issue. :)

    8. Re:Consider It Carefully by Schnapple · · Score: 1
      There's only one thing you truly need to make this a success: Cheerleaders.
      I know you're kidding, but

      Problem #1) Cheerleaders won't want anything to do with it.
      Problem #2) Most high school kids who would go to LAN parties are terrified of women (note I said most, not all)

      Actually more to the point - how many high schoolers even own significant enough PC's to game with? I mean, that they own, not their parents. Most kids with jobs tend to pay for cars and such.

      Throw a HALO party - TV's and Xboxen are easier to find and string together.

    9. Re:Consider It Carefully by freakmn · · Score: 1

      I'm for the cheerleaders, but against the t-shirts ;)

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    10. Re:Consider It Carefully by ReverendRyan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This is exactally the point I was going to bring up. I once held a LAN at my former school district's central office which had large rooms they will rent to anyone (for a nice fee). They almost didn't rent the room to me (as a paying adult) because of those very same fears (none of it happened, tho, and the party was a great success).

      There's no WAY you'll be allowed to play games like CS, Quake, Starcraft, World of Warcraft, etc. at school, especially as a school-related fundraiser.

      Your best bet would be to hold the LANs outside of school completely and simply donate the profits (which will be small - LANS are expensive when they get big) to your school.

    11. Re:Consider It Carefully by MrMagooAZ · · Score: 1

      I agree that it will be tough to pull off, but I think this can be done and might be quite lucrative for your group. It will be a lot of work, but if you do this right, it's something you can repeat again and again and make money on. It will be a little easier every time you host it.

    12. Re:Consider It Carefully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suspect that that post was more damaging than you intended it to be.

    13. Re:Consider It Carefully by triso · · Score: 1
      Bah - you complicate the issue too much. There's only one thing you truly need to make this a success:

      Cheerleaders.
      Put the Chearleaders in the t-shirts and you will sell even more shirts.

    14. Re:Consider It Carefully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Guess my school is cool. We had a SC lan party. was bomb. was allowed to install on school computers.

    15. Re:Consider It Carefully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's only an issue in the USA, where people preach about gun-rights, then get scared by violent games. Here in Australia, we regularly used to play Doom/Quake/Rise-Of-The-Triad at school.

    16. Re:Consider It Carefully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You aussies also ban Grand Theft Auto...don't lecture the US on free speech issues...

    17. Re:Consider It Carefully by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      Your Mario Kart comment actually inspired an idea.

      I've found Mario Kart to be EXTREMELY popular with every type of gamer out there, guy or girl, big time gamer, jock, cheerleader, you name it.

      Rather than set up a LAN party, try getting a few game consoles and controllers and copies of some games, and some TVs. Hold a tournament, charge an entry fee, give the winner a tshirt, or a share of the pot, or something like that, and keep the rest.

      Dirt cheap, MUCH easier to set up than a LAN party, and has the potential to reach a much larger audience at a highschool.

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    18. Re:Consider It Carefully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Today it would be hard to live in most parts of Europe and North America if you have no clue as to how to use a computer or PDA. Since the time youve graduated some things have changed. For example, almost every woman (in highschool and university at least) owns some sort of computer. Granted she doesnt spend her afternoons playing games on it, but none the less the personal computer has become a social norm, not an exception. Show me a teenage man these days that has not played a single computer game at some point in his lifetime and THERE is your social outcast. Last but not least, your 'IM A TOTAL LOSER - STICK ME IN THE LOCKER' comment, though humerous, is way off. If thats the first thing that comes to a girls mind when she finds out youve been to a LAN party I dont think I'd be able to sleep with her - no matter how good her looks might be. I enjoy using computers - a lot. I think anyone coming to this site can admit the same to some degree. If a woman can't repect that part of me, then she'd feel like she was sleeping with a "chunk of shit" and so would I. Youre probably right though, coming back drunk and raving after a long night at the bar is a MUCH more manly and natural thing than attending a LAN party and will get you a lot more of those coveted one-night stands...

      My 2 Cents.

    19. Re:Consider It Carefully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We don't think it is our god given right to own machine guns though.

    20. Re:Consider It Carefully by zeno_2 · · Score: 1
      Id also agree with this post, as well as the reply's (at least the ones I read).

      Some things you might want to consider, try having just a couple small lan parties at your house or somethin, just so you can get the feel of what needs to be setup. Try looking at these sites:

      LAN Party Setup Info
      Lanparty.com

      Or just search google for "Hosting Lan Party" (without quotes, not sure if it matters).

      Good luck to ya, a well-setup lan party can be a blast. The last one I went to, it was quite a few years ago, we played UT I believe. Each team got a room pretty much to setup, so you couldn't see the opponent, but you could year them when they yelled because you just killed them again =).

    21. Re:Consider It Carefully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could ask people to bring their consoles and start a competition or something. You don't have to use PC's.

    22. Re:Consider It Carefully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take the cheerleaders out of the T-shirts and sell EVEN MORE!!

    23. Re:Consider It Carefully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True. You don't often see: "Dear Penthouse, I know this sounds unbelievable, but here's what happened at the LAN party I went to last Friday night..."

    24. Re:Consider It Carefully by omega216 · · Score: 1

      First Slashdot Post so forgive me if i sound like i am repeating something anyone has said. As a former poor college student, and a veteran of many lan parties....I can safely say that, planning iwll be the key to your event. 1. First off Roughly how many users will be connecting a. is this going to be a small group roughly 15-20 b. medium group around 50 or more, c. or are we talking 100+ nodes. 2. Second find out who is oging, and see what kind of equipment is already available on hand, or that current members have. They would probably be willing to lend equipment for your party. 3. You might check with some of the local businesses, sometimes they have excess networking equipment they need to get rid of at the end of thier fiscal years. 4. You can do wonders with a wireless linksys router, you can get a good cheap one from best buy for around 40-60. Then just have everyone bring thier own wifi card...usually around 40 dollars on up. BTW for those that don't know Linksys was recently bought by cisco, or mergered or whatever, and is now backed by htem. Any new Linksys router has the CISCO logo plastered all over it....so really given the speed of the wireless G. Wireless would suit your gamming needs especially for the time period you are talking If this was going to be a more permament situation...then you might want to consider other equipment....but to get the balling rolling thats what i would recoment, and they are so easy to set up an untrained chimp could do it.... one more note. Be careful about the whole money thing, most schools require thier clubs to hold an account with them and deposit all thier club money in the account and then go make a voucher to thier cashier or whatever when they need to use it for club events....if you do have some kind of system set up make sure you have a treasurer you can trust. ok that really wasn't the last note...but this one is i promise. with a little bit of planning on your part, and the coordination on the part of your friends and fellow lan kiddies it can very easily happen. Heck I set up a wireless lan for a friends bachelor party, 50 computers between four smal motel rooms,...now that was a logistical nightmare.... But it can be done. Peace love and dope... flame at will -Omega216

    25. Re:Consider It Carefully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I write them all the time, unfortuantly they dont care what happens in leasure suit larry.

    26. Re:Consider It Carefully by nadadogg · · Score: 1

      Heck I set up a wireless lan for a friends bachelor party, 50 computers between four smal motel rooms,

      Nothing personal, but what the fuck kind of bachelor party is that, with computers and shit? I'm a huge geek/college student, but by God, when I get married, my friends had better have strippers and more booze than is drinkable in 24 hours.
      I'm going to assume that instead of bachelor party, you meant an engagement celebration or something, and that your friend didn't spend his last single night playing computer games, unless they were, hmm. No, you don't play computer games as a bachelor party.

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    27. Re:Consider It Carefully by colman77 · · Score: 1

      A neighboring school has a CS Club. My school had a Halo 2 tournament. Some people at my school bring their xboxes to school, and play it in classes when they're not doing anything.

    28. Re:Consider It Carefully by djdavetrouble · · Score: 1

      I want to recognize the nerd factor at work here, but lets face it, every red blooded american boy and lots of girls love to play video games (dont mean to exclude the other 6 continents, sorry). Playing against people that you know and in the same room is just fuking fun, geeks or no geeks. If you can get the non nerd types to buy in , then even better ! I live in NYC and have lots of friends with kids, and let me tell you, white black, puerto rican, asian, all of these kids love games. It doesn't have to be a nerd out. A halo party like the parent mentioned would still be more fun than playing at home alone. Also, if you can do it for a small cover and have drinks and snacks for sale, it is still cheaper than going to a pay per hour joint.

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    29. Re:Consider It Carefully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Party pooper!

    30. Re:Consider It Carefully by virtualkuz · · Score: 1

      So you want to not only introduce the inherent lag that 802.11 is going to have for multiplayer games but you want more than 10 people connecting to a consumer grade linksys WAP? If you had serious cash and a nice aironet setup with all the required routers and setup you might be able to pull off a wireless lan party but a $60 internet router? That is asking for this kid to get beat up when people keep losing their connections while playing. Good idea

    31. Re:Consider It Carefully by omega216 · · Score: 1

      first off,

      he is a kid, w/o access to corporate routers. second off, unless he knows someone with good wiring experience.....theres no way they coud wire thier own cables....

      third 802.11g does not have the same lag issues that its predecessors had....

      fourth they arn't gong to be doing any massive downloading using the campus network, at least if this is a legitimate lan party they won't be, so they will only have the traffic from the games.

      4. In response to the previous post, there was several ice coolers filled with various alchoholic beverages, and the women were plentiful....very plentiful

      5. one more thing about latency, true they may not have the best connection, but then they are going to be connecting through a high school network, which 9 out of 10 times is a shared connection, with its set of lag/latency issues.

      6. More than one wireless linksys router could be used pending on the numberof people involved

      7. If the club members have access to better equipment, then use that by all means, but if not then make do with what you can get.

      8..Being a former poor college student i remember what it was like....

    32. Re:Consider It Carefully by PastaLover · · Score: 1

      I can agree with this. I was part of the organisation of a small lanparty last year(about 70-80 people) and it was absolutely hell pulling it together. First off the power requirements, then there are prices, catering, server setup... There's a lot involved. We had quite a large team of people (6 people) setting this up and putting a lot of time in it. We also had significant help during the event from other people.

      Then there is off course the profit you're hoping to make. We barely broke even (made a small profit eventually) and we did have several sponsors who contributed quite a bit of the initial cost for the event. Off course your situation might be different, depending on local cost but I think it would probably be quite comparable.

      Unlike what other people are reporting here people in the school didn't really have problems with the playing of violent games. But it was held as a private event and not in the US so that's normal I guess. We did have the luxury of being in a technical school where we only had to pull some cables to the workshops which had plenty of power...

  3. Detached network. by Short+Circuit · · Score: 3, Informative

    Go with the detached network. With enough people at a party, someone's going to have fun digitally spelunking. Better it be on machines owned by attendees than on machines owned by the school.

  4. Sponsors are easy by Pacifix · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Call up the local mom and pop computer hardware store and ask to use their floor model routers and to donate a spool of ethernet cable, then let them plaster the place with fliers. Take personal responsibility for the borrowed hardware. Treat it well and return it. Repeat.

  5. Several suggestions by ssand · · Score: 1

    You could always have multiple rooms, if you have several rooms with ports, or get people who are helping with the event to bring some hardware of their own to help out (like routers).

    As for games, I think they released the original Tribes, or Tribes 2 for free download. Tribes 1/2 is an old enough game so it will more than likely run smoothly only school computers, but the graphics are outdated. I remember setting Tribes 2 up in one of the school labs and playing it with half the class, It was some good fun.

    1. Re:Several suggestions by coachvince · · Score: 0

      Multiple rooms can work to your advantage, if you have team based play. Routers and cabling can be brought in from home, but game PCs shouldn't (too high a chance of hacks/virii/etc.). If you're lucky enough to have many PCs with a standard config, definitely image them(i.e., set one up EXACTLY the way you want, then clone the drive to the other PCs with Norton ghost- you can even do this geometrically by cloning a cloned drive- once you get 3-4 cloned and being cloned, it shouldn't take long)
      Make sure all games will run decently on all machines used; nobody will be impressed if the boxes "barely" run the games you use.
      Prizes seem like an afterthought, but some people won't consider coming if you have no tourneys and prizes.
      Power (at the wall, and distribution, as in power strips) is very important. So is lighting (is the level adjustable?), furniture (tables, chairs, etc.), break facilities (restrooms, snacks in a separate area).
      Security is also a big issue; you may run a dozen parties and never have a problem. But, you may lose all the equipment the moment somebody leaves a door unwatched. You can try sign-ins, with ID for the child or parent, and video surveillance (if the school won't give you access to theirs).
      You can try asking local tech firms if they have large scale switches they don't use over the weekend, but have a plan to replace them if they walk, get burned up, or have a 44oz Big Gulpy poured over them.

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    2. Re:Several suggestions by ostermei · · Score: 1

      They released them both. Unfortunately, though, Tribes 2 (second link there) only had a limited number of keys available for downloading it. It appears that they may add more keys later on, but for now you can definitely get the first one no problem. That might be for the best, considering that the hardware being used might not be the latest and greatest, Tribes 1 is probably going to be able to run on a wider range of hardware than the sequel.

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  6. Local Business by np_bernstein · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seriously man, try local business first. Highschool is hard enough; if you're the kid responsible for organising a lan party to raise money for the technology group.... that's like waiving a flag that says 'kick my ass'. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing actually wrong with the idea, and the people who will give you shit now will be talking about how selling cars is rewarding at the 10-year reunion, but you've got a good shot of getting money by going around and finding companies in your town that work in the technology area who would be willing to cut a check, so why deal with it.

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  7. Ask the kids. by MagneticMountain · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Most kids in High School that are into technology should have most of the stuff you need. Try to find a few leaders that are interested and have they ask students to see if they have cables, hubs and other networking gear that they would want to lend. Maybe let the people that allow stuff to be used to play for free or cheaper as well.

    1. Re:Ask the kids. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have been through this (not at school, mind you, but trying to pull together 14 person LANs. Make sure you label all your own equipment with your name and have everyone else do the same. Otherwise, at the end, it's, "Hey, whose blue 5ft Ethernet cord is this?"

      Other than that let me tell you that people will consider a LAN hosted at school to be "lame." Do it in someone's garage.

      LAN parties are not profitable. That's not the reason they exist. They're fun, but probably a pretty crappy fundraiser.

  8. One piece of technology. by GoofyBoy · · Score: 3, Funny


    Never underestimate the usefullness of a good ventilation system at a LAN party.

    No, this is not a troll. I've been to many gaming conventions and LAN parties to notice that this is the difference between a professional and amateur hosting.

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    1. Re:One piece of technology. by Guppy06 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Are we talking about venting off heat from the boxen or the interesting aromas from the users?

    2. Re:One piece of technology. by Dekks · · Score: 1

      Are we talking about venting off heat from the boxen or the interesting aromas from the users?

      Yes. :)

    3. Re:One piece of technology. by AusG4 · · Score: 1

      By "intereting aromas from the users", do you mean, from products they are, say, sending into the atmosphere or their own, disturbingly unwashed persons?

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    4. Re:One piece of technology. by PastaLover · · Score: 1

      True. But usually it's best to hold it in a big enough room that you can open some windows to combat smells etc. Heat is a different thing. Airco systems or anything remotely like it is just way to expensive for a small to midsize lanparty and the cost doesn't scale well either. Airco for a weekend is basically undoable, unless the airco company would like to sponsor your event.

  9. Why not sponsership? by BigZaphod · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't see why local sponsorship would be unlikely. Ever try, ya know, asking? When I was in high school we had a few projects that required some money (including racing an all-electric vehicle). It took some doing, but when you start asking around, like, "where does your dad work?" and such, you inevitably find that someone's dad or mom is some executive somewhere local and or close to the executive or close enough that an inquiry from them will land the school a nice chunk of money.

    We got a few hundred dollars as well as actual materials donated in exchange for stickers on our car. I'm sure you could do something similar. Make it known via local radio stations and you'll get companies more than willing to sign up. Spin it as something safe and entertaining for area teens to do on a saturday night (or whatever) and you might even get some TV time out of it. It doesn't take much. Just a phone call or two to a TV station and radio station and newspaper. They love local interest student-run things. Makes for great fluff stories. It is easier to get attention for this kind of thing than you might expect.

  10. Just some Gewglin'. by Refrozen · · Score: 0
  11. First we need to break down your question(s) by cdrudge · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I'm a high school student and a member of our technology group.
    It's easier to just say "I'm a geek." It's more to the point and doesn't make it seem like you are trying to disguise what you really are.

    Our school needs extra money for our technology, and I thought that a LAN party would be an effective, and exciting, solution.
    All public schools need extra money for technology. It's part of the requirement for being a public school I believe. That being said, a LAN party is going to raise about 2.98 for technology after you pay for expenses. No food, no drinks, no prizes...no people.

    How can we make a great LAN party with the supplies at hand and make a profit while doing it? We have a network, but not a large enough room with enough ports. We're most likely going to create a detached network for the party, but don't know how to set it up because we have limited supplies.
    You are going to have to find one or more switches with enough ports. A 24 port unmanaged switch will cost $60+ bucks. You could get by with more switches with fewer ports, but then becomes a hassle with getting everything wired. You'll also need Cat5 cable ($40/1000 feet at Lowes) and RJ-45 connectors (prices vary depending on how many you buy). Also some crimpers...and some time to crimp a bunch of ends.

    I guess we could seek a sponsorship from a local company, but that is unlikely to happen. Any suggestions on network layout, power layout, and general party to-do's?
    (Extended) Star topology 100baseT will be more then enough for what you are doing. For power, you will have to see how the room is wired. If the room is normally a computer room, you should be fine. If it's a class room, you could start tripping breakers depending on how many computers you have running.

    You also are going to have to get permission from the school system, provide security, as well as likely get a teacher to act as a sponsor. Without this, and with no outside sponsorship, your idea won't go anywhere.
    1. Re:First we need to break down your question(s) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would also add "who cares?" to the idea of raising money for your school technology group. You'll be graduated and gone long before you buy anything that matters to your education. Take what you have, spend your own time and money on your own personal education and toys, and get the fuck out of highschool as soon as possible.

      Why do you give a shit about your highschool anymore than giving a fuck about some stupid local sports team? To hell with them. They're not doing YOU any favors, remember.

    2. Re:First we need to break down your question(s) by VendingMenace · · Score: 1

      no favors -- except for educating you for free.

    3. Re:First we need to break down your question(s) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Free, yea, you wanna pay my past book rental from highschool?

      I told them, well I didn't ask to go the goverment made me, but they dont care they want their 1047.67 I owe them for the last 2 years of school.

    4. Re:First we need to break down your question(s) by IpalindromeI · · Score: 1

      I suppose you're either too young to pay taxes, or too stupid to know what they're used for. Public education ain't free, kid.

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    5. Re:First we need to break down your question(s) by VendingMenace · · Score: 1

      actually, i was refering to the fact that most HS students do not pay taxes. Even if they do, it is fairly mininal and will be refunded at the end of the year anyway, scince they will earn less that $15,000 per year (or whatever the cutoff is now). So, most HS students do not pay for their school (or do not pay more than a few dollars) in taxes. Hence, for the HS student, school is baiscally free. This is opposed to college, where quite commonly the students themselves are paying for their education.

      Now of course the school is not free, in the sense that teachers salaries and books do not magically appear out of nowhere. However, from the student's prespective, HS is a free education.

      As per your accersion, i am in fact BOTH young AND stupid.

      i suppose that you are either too old and cynical or too obtuse to get what my original point was :)

  12. Ask the voice of experience by saintp · · Score: 4, Informative
    These guys have held a few very successful LAN parties near me, and have even written a piece of OS software (Automated LAN Party, or ALP) to help smooth things out. I'm sure that if you ask around in your area, you'll find people with similar experience.

    One caveat, though: I don't know anyone who has profited from a LAN party. Usually, it's considered a stellar success if they break even. However, since yours is for an educational institution, you might be able to work the sponsorship angle extra hard and make a few bucks.

  13. Licensing by Isao · · Score: 1

    Check your game licensing. Most require permission for public display or charging for play.

    1. Re:Licensing by ReverendLoki · · Score: 1

      The key here is they would not be charging for playing the game, but rather for entrance to the site, and for hooking your computer up to the network. If all you wanted to do was play a game, you could do that at home.

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    2. Re:Licensing by Greventls · · Score: 1

      Licensing? Correct me if I'm wrong, but if everyone comes and plays their game they bought, why would they have to license it?

  14. Do X-box LAN Party by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You don't really to buy extra hardware with xbox LAN party. I am sure your school has a TV in every classroom. Bring in a TV from home (or move a TV from another class), connect 2 xbox to the TV, then have 2 Halo2 multiple players game going.
    you would need a teacher to "sponsor" you though.
    some high school kids would rather play on xbox than on PC.
    that's really cheap set-up for 8 players, considering what it would otherwise cost with PCs..

    1. Re:Do X-box LAN Party by ssand · · Score: 1

      X-box lan party could work very well too. Alot cheaper, and easier to set up. Plus you can rent the x-boxes from your local videostore if you need several.

      The biggest issue of bringing your own stuff that other people actively use is damage. Some people get angry and like to throw the controllers around, or make a mess with them. As mentioned, someone walking out of there with a game, or a controller is possible, so keeping tabs on everything would be needed.

    2. Re:Do X-box LAN Party by keyshawn632 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'll second this one. At my high school, one of the clubs was able to have semi-profitable and successful Halo and Madden tournaments [using consoles].

      This way, the equipment is 'standardized' so fear of hacks/cheats is less than PC; as well as the kids don't have to haul in a $500+ computer [instead a console no more than $300].
      Plus, instead of one huge room of a LAN, there can be multiple classrooms, where one segment or bracket [of 4-8 people @ a time] can be held, as the tourney progresses.

      As you should know as well - most geeks are recluse ! This means to have flyers displayed around school and get some exposure on the school announcements. /Linux troll

      Or you could just use your Comp. lab, get a bunch of knoppixgames discs and have a bzflag tourney. Any kid capable of reaking havoc on that network should already be your ally :p

    3. Re:Do X-box LAN Party by Guspaz · · Score: 1

      To replace a PC based LAN party with an XBOX based LAN party, there are still many hardware requirements. You need lots of TVs (Hard to get enough of), and network cables, switches, etc.

      Considering how difficult it is to get a bunch of TVs, it's probably way easier to go with a traditional LAN party. Somebody made the comment about high-school students not being able to go to LAN parties. That's rediculous, I've been hosting and going to LAN parties since mid highschool, from 4 people up to 400 people. Many people at both the big and small ones were from highschool, some younger than myself when I started going to them.

  15. Make sure.... by Anonymous+Butthead · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you do it w/ a friend, make sure you outline who does what, and who gets what. Make sure it is signed, and you have a witness.

    I made this mistake hosting a lan w/ a friend. Bascally, he decided to keep the cash, I had nothing saying otherwise. The only payment I received was 8 copies of call of duty I could not sell(that came after the lan), and 2 eight port switches.

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    1. Re:Make sure.... by Blublu · · Score: 1

      Whoa, that sounds like a pretty crappy friend. You should have kicked his ass.

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    2. Re:Make sure.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you do it w/ a friend, make sure you outline who does what, and who gets what. Make sure it is signed, and you have a witness.

      This is all good advice for having a threesome as well...

  16. Don't forget software! by latent_biologist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you're trying to do this on the cheap, Wolfenstein: Enemey Territory is great. Free to download, & the hardware requirements aren't all that outrageous if your computer is 3yrs old. Over the last couple of years, the personal LANs i've attended always seem to come back to this old standby. If ET's not your flavor of carnage, there's a listing of free games that was mentioned on /. that I can't seem to find the URL for...(anyone?)

    1. Re:Don't forget software! by Quill_28 · · Score: 1

      Are there any good bots for ET?

      I like ET but it doesn't seem like a good choice for smaller LAN parties(4-10). Am i wrong?

    2. Re:Don't forget software! by vonsneerderhooten · · Score: 1

      www.liberatedgames.org
      crisis averted
      *bows*

    3. Re:Don't forget software! by Sigma+7 · · Score: 1
      Are there any good bots for ET?
      Not yet, but you can try to find "Bobots". The AI players are fairly accurrate at the default setting, but don't really understand most of the player actions.

      I like ET but it doesn't seem like a good choice for smaller LAN parties(4-10). Am i wrong?
      It does work for 6-10 players, as long as the players know what they are doing. (e.g. not like most pubbers on Internet play that seal off access to the fuel dump, thus losing the game to the engy/covert op combo.)
  17. From prior experience by btornado · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I atttended a LAN party at our crosstown rival's high school once, so I feel obliged to share my experience.

    LAN parties at schools are risky because they are government buildings and you're basically leaching off their supplies and resources. Take for granted what you are offered. The whole trick to getting our LAN party off the ground was that the person who organized it had a friendly relationship with the head of technology at the school. You state that you're in a technology group, so that's a start. If it's a school sponsored group, that's even better.

    If administration gives you the go-ahead, the next step might be sponsorship from a faculty member. School administration will probably be hesitent about a bunch of high school kids in the building after hours, so a faculty member with them to look after them will usually calm their nerves. If your group is sponsored, the leader of your group might be a good choice.

    Chances are you'll want to bring your own computers because school computers are generally locked down and don't have the horsepower for games. If you're placed in a room that has Ethernet jacks, you might be tempted to just plug all the computers into that. I thought about doing that at ours, but I just plugged one cable into a wall jack for uplink to the Internet.

    For network topology, we just had a hub and everyone plugged into that, and then we had one cable plugged into a wall port providing Ethernet. I don't think we told anyone about the uplink, but it worked fine.

    We played WarCraft III the entire night because we were asked not to play violent games (Quake III and the like). Getting people to attend can be a challenge, but post flyers and tell your friends. Depending on who you hang out with, you may or may not draw a croud. In our case, we had about 10 people show up.

    1. Re:From prior experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We played WarCraft III the entire night because we were asked not to play violent games

      Something does not add up here.

  18. Easy by vasqzr · · Score: 2, Interesting


    I'd suggest using the cafeteria. Plenty of electrical power, and you probably have tables in there already.

    Go to Lowes/Home Depot, buy a box or two of CAT5 cable. Have some students make the ends. Get a couple of cheap switches. Small companies like mine throw them out all the time. In the last year I've thrown out 2 100MB hubs, 5 10MB hubs, and 2 100MB switches.

    You're just running games so you're not going to saturate them.

    We did this at a high school I previously worked at, and it went pretty well. We used all the old networking equipment the school used to run on, and now they just use it in the 'student lab' with old computers and other things for computer class kids to play with.

    1. Re:Easy by Coolnat2004 · · Score: 1

      We can easily borrow switches from the system admin, and possibly cat5, if there is any. We could likely get cable anyway.

    2. Re:Easy by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 2, Funny
      Small companies like mine throw them out all the time. In the last year I've thrown out 2 100MB hubs, 5 10MB hubs, and 2 100MB switches.

      What company do you work for? Where is it? Do you lock your dumpster (will I need bolt cutters)?

      Thanks!

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  19. LAN party Issues by LiquidAvatar · · Score: 1

    I recently did a lot of research into LAN centers with the hopes of opening one, but have since then been moving away from that direction due to some serious issues that such a thing presents. There are three main considerations for a successful commercial LAN: 1) The hardware and space. This is probably the easiest issue to overcome because it is the most straight forward. You just need enough desks and open space to set up your systems, and a good switch/router (don't want to use a hub, if you can even find them any more) with enough open ports for your systems. 2) The liscensing issue. This is the second worst part of setting up a LAN where you are asking people to pay money to use games. The creators of the games (well, usually the publishers) demand a cut. Each publisher (and a few large developers like Blizzard and Valve) has its own hoops that you must jump through and expenses that you have to pay. There is an organization of LAN centers that can help out a new-comer (which you may not qualify as, since this is an event instead of a center) at www.igames.org 3) Insurance. This is probably the hardest aspect to deal with, because the odds are the investment will come to nothing. I don't know how it is in other states, but in CA it's pretty much a case of if someone hurts themselves while at your center, your center is responsible for shelling out the cash to heal them, both physically and mentally. Since you plan do it on campus, the insurance might not be an issue since the school already has that taken care of. Well, that's what I know of comercial LANs, I hope my research proves useful to you.

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  20. Dear Slashdot, by Wwolmack · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dear Slashdot,
    I am a 15 year old geek and I need a fundraiser. I thought that a LAN party would be an effective, and exciting, 'solution'.
    Then I realized that we don't have the space, equipment, know-how, experience or startup funding. Please figure this out for me.

    -Kid "the yellow dart" planner


    P.S. Make it profitable! Even though most experienced LAN parties don't.

    P.P.S. Oh, its due tomorrow too, so please hurry!

    1. Re:Dear Slashdot, by Coolnat2004 · · Score: 1

      Explain your yellow dart reasoning! Most of that is correct, though. o_O

    2. Re:Dear Slashdot, by Bill+Walker · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Out of curiosity, what topic for Ask Slashdot would be acceptable to you? It seems that every time we have one of these someone questions the motives of the asker.

      It's not like he's asking us to give him a brief history of computing, with bibliography. He needs help from people with direct experience in an esoteric pastime, and I think he's come to the right place.

      Christ, please, just once, give something the benefit of the doubt. Not everyone is out to take advantage of you.

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    3. Re:Dear Slashdot, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    4. Re:Dear Slashdot, by Wwolmack · · Score: 1

      I didn't mean to imply that he's taking advantage of me/us/the Intarweb.

      I meant that this is a very difficult thing to do, even when you already have a plan AND the necessary hardware AND a space in mind AND sponsors... and STILL expect turn a profit. Some other posters have pointed out that LAN parties are considered runaway sucesses if they break even. And thats at a hotel conference room (or similar venue), with sponsors, prizes, the right hardware and knowledgable, dedicated organizers and staff.

      It's almost analagous to going up to a Fortune 500 board, and asking them "How do I make money - fast - with almost nothing to start with but an idea."

      Its not an easy task for anybody, and if somebody did know how to do it, they probably wouldn't share their secret of sucess.

    5. Re:Dear Slashdot, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gold

  21. it's not that hard by topgun601 · · Score: 2, Informative

    the comp sci department thows one 3 or 4 times a semester at the college i go to. it is not that hard to do.

    i would sugest that you tell every one to bring there own computer. we geranly swipe a few from the school too in case someone has an old one or cant lugg it down to where the partys at.

    you need to get a switch form somewhere if the you might even be able to bribe the netadmin of the school to let you barrow one (from my own exparnce doubtful but anything possable) or even do it wireless if every has a wireless card. i do like the idea of going to the local computer store (tell'em they can say they help out in the comumty/schools by doing it)

    the swtich and cabel are your biggest prblems. we tell everyone to bring there own cat5 cable. if they dont have one, we grab more from the other computers in the computer lab. something you can do just make shure it gets put back! if you ever want to have another one .

    we use a little home router. so we can be online and all the game trafic stays local. our lan grew slowly witch was a good thing. it was not that hard but we were able to have a few runthews to get all the kinks out. if this is your fist one i would sugest you do the same with some knoagable friends. goold luck and happy fragging

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    1. Re:it's not that hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Coolage? How did u get in d00d? Did you teka the SAAT?

    2. Re:it's not that hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're in college and you can't spell any better than that?

      Behold the product of public education!

  22. Don't do what johnny dont did by Crimsane · · Score: 0

    Go and get your principal to <b>sign</b> a peice of paper saying you can do this.

    This peice of paper should then be treated as your own personal holy grail.
    I have tried this, and beleive me, you will get more flac from teachers and other students then you can possibly imagine.
    Imagine the nerv if you, attempting to have fun in a high school. Use this peice of paper to ward off the evil spirts and you may have a hope.

    It has to be written and signed, if its possible for you to convince your principal (with the hope of a supporting teacher), you need this so she cannot easily go back on her word when she trys.

    It turns out it was much less hassle for myself to rent out the local legion hall, but of course that killed any potential profit.

    1. Re:Don't do what johnny dont did by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With some luck, he'll even get them to sign a piece of paper for him :p

  23. School/School District IT Dept. by xTown · · Score: 1

    If your school or school district has a full-time IT department, see if you can enlist the help of a person or people from there. They may be able to midnight requisition the cabling and other network equipment for you.

    You definitely need to get buy-in from those guys, though, in addition to what others have said about getting a signed letter of permission from the principal. I know that when I worked for the local school district, nothing happened on the network without us knowing about it.

  24. LANs don't make money by badnova · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Simply put it's very hard to make money from a lan. I've been involved in several large scale lans (500+ people) and with venue costs, equipment costs, food costs, transportation costs, and a million and one other little costs that you haven't even thought about, it all adds up to a pricey sum, which means you have to set the ticket price to be very high if you want to make anything. I'm not saying it can't be done; I'm just saying it's not as easy as you might imagine. There's a lot more to it than putting up some tables and stringing together some switches.

  25. Already been done. Somewhat succesful by JoshDavey · · Score: 1

    At my highschool my friends and I run the tech department. We set up the network all around the school and are responsible for maintaining every computer in the school. With that freedom comes the power to do basically whatever we want. Some of the students at lunch have a LAN party set up and charge 1 dollar for 1 hour of CS:S, Unreal, BF1942, Warcraft, etc...
    Overall I'd say its pretty successful. One year they raised enough to buy cheap video cards for all the computers.

  26. make sure you'll actually get the funds by cybergeak · · Score: 1

    when i was still in highschool, stories from around the school district were floating about that school choirs and the like, who were wanting to charge a buck or 2 a person for a concert were not going to going to be able to keep any of that money as the football team had the rights to all tickets sold. the concert was to raise money for new bleechers, and its not like they were a club, it was a full blown class in school, and yet sports still got to cash in on it. they ended up just not having the concert.

  27. map of the school in Doom3 by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 1


    I taught in High School after Columbine, and folks were pretty tense about anything that resembled violence on the school property--after hours or not. If you have to rule out FPS, I can't imagine you'll get many folks interested--and if things haven't loosened up in the last few years, I think getting FPS approved would be tough. Worse, they'll say "okay", but then shut you down once you start playing and they can see what is meant by FPS.

    So before you go much further, I would demo the games that you want to play to the approving authority; if they blanch you'll have to rethink. And the type of game will impact the network needs too, so I think what gets approved will help determine the rest of your needs.

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    1. Re:map of the school in Doom3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been having LAN parties on my school campus since 8th grade.. Below are some basic things I've learned over the years.

      I suggest leaving the school administration as out of it as possible. Just find one sympathetic teacher who will rubber stamp things and give you access to the facilities.. When you do have to speak with them, be vague and use complicated technology words to intimidate them. Emphasize that it will be raising money for a school club. Keep a relatively low profile so no moralist parents find out about it.

      I haven't read most of the comments, but these are some general suggestions in case they haven't been said already.

      Make it a requirement that the people attending have the games you will be playing installed and patched before they enter the building, make headphones mandatory, burn cds with the necesarry patches on them to give out.

      If having the games preinstalled is a big problem, then don't mess with the newer games. Have one person get a copy of Return to Castle Wolfenstine and share the CD key. The shared CD key will not make any difference when playing over the LAN. RTCW is a good game that works well with both large and small numbers of people, it is still good looking but a bad PC can run it, and it takes less than 5 minutes to install.

  28. PROFIT? BUAHAHAHAH by gl4ss · · Score: 1

    yeah, the topic really says it all.

    it's great for fun, but not really for raising funds. if you have a smallish party(that you would have) chances of breaking profit are pretty small, and chances of breaking enough profit that it would really matter are much smaller.

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  29. Lan Party Suggestions - it's a long list...sorry by MrMagooAZ · · Score: 5, Informative

    Some thoughts and suggestions in no particular order...

    It sounds like you're a little hazy on some of the technical details. If I were you, I'd check around and find a LAN party in your town and check it out. See how it works. The second thing I'd do is try getting this setup with just your computer club. Try and get some of the kinks worked out BEFORE you charge people for the service you are providing. If you put on a good event people will come back for the next one. If you put on a bad show (can't get the network up, food sucks or is too expensive, etc.) then no one will come to the next one. Make it a good one and you might be able to do this once every couple of months or so.

    Door prizes might be fun. Check with some local businesses and see if they'll donate cash or items for door prizes. They don't have to be big or even computer-related. Fun stuff that kids like.

    I think the money to be made at a LAN party is in the food. Sure, you can charge everyone who comes $5 to get in the door or whatever, but then have all the eats and drinks you can think of ready to be purchased. Get it from Costco, and have folks lined up to work the food booth (cute chicks would probably work best). Plan a pizza run and charge everyone a fair markup for running for the pizza. See if you can get the pizza for free/cheap.

    On the physical setup, you'll need a computer or router to act as the DHCP server. Then just get a mess of switches/hubs and hook all that up. DO NOT worry about cabling from the switches to the player's computers...make the players bring a cable.

    Tables and chairs should be no problem at a school. Just make sure you give everyone plenty of space to spread out.

    You will also need some extension cords for power. Again, I'd require everyone to bring their own power strip.

    In general players should be required to supply: Computer with network card installed, monitor, power cables, power strip, network cable (15-25 feet should be plenty) and the games.

    You might also think about setting some minimum requirements. Require Win98/ME/2K/XP, machine speeds, etc. You don't want someone showing up with their parents old Pentium 166 and wondering why they can't play.

    Create a game list so people know what to bring and to make sure their systems can handle it. You might also specify patches that should be applied and possibly have a server or some CD's burned with all the relevant patches.

    There are a lot of free demos out there for games. I'd make sure at least one of these was on the list. That way, anyone can come and take part even if they don't own any of the games.

    Have some folks on-hand to do tech support. They should be familiar with setting up TCP/IP networking on the various Windows systems and configuring the games you will play. Depending on the size of the group, you might also want them well-marked (special hats or shirts).

    Security is an issue. I'd make everyone aware that they are responsible for their own data security. If they have their computer open to the world and someone else sniffs into it and copies whatever, then it's the COMPUTER OWNER's fault.

    Anti-Virus - REQUIRE everyone to have anti-virus software installed on their computer BEFORE they are allowed to connect to the network. Seems like every time I go to a private LAN party, there is always one idiot who doesn't have it, and of course is INFESTED. If they don't have one of the commercial packages they can get one of the free ones.

    Physical security - tell all of your participants to mark their hardware and keep track of it. There are a lot of stories about folks going to some of the big public LAN parties around here where they get up for 5 minutes and come back to find their uber-cool headphones and joystick missing.

    Allow a couple of hours for setup. It takes longer than you think.

    Plan that you'll have at least one person who will need dedicated help fo

  30. i would say... by Legato895 · · Score: 1

    i would say that your only surefire bet is prostitution... its the world's oldest profession for a reason

    1. Re:i would say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cte highschool boys and girls, woo whoo!

  31. lan suggestions by DaPh00z · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm on staff for a local Lan party and have dealt with a lot of the issues. I recommend that you start with power. Having enough electricity is usually more of a problem than the actual floor space. We tested our systems with an Ammeter and found that an 'average' gaming system will pull around 3-4 amps under gaming load. (less when idle). Obviously it depends on the number of components and lcd vs crt monitor, etc. Most buildings will run with 20 amp circuits but you'll have to get a electrical blueprint for the building to know which wall outlets are connected to which circuits. It's important because it really stinks to be in the middle of a tournament and breakers start flipping. That's a start... feel free to drop me a line and I can give you more details about other lan challenges, advertising, tournaments, food, location, and other logistics. [ daph00z@ h s v g l . com ] remove spaces

    1. Re:lan suggestions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just to be totally clear on this, your email address is daph00z@hsvgl.com .. right?

    2. Re:lan suggestions by DaPh00z · · Score: 1

      if you have questions.. then yes that is the email.. if you have spam.. then no it isn't. =)

      There are programs that can read email addresses off of forums and such for spamming so it's better if you don't post it exactly as it's spelled.

  32. Here's your problem. by focitrixilous+P · · Score: 2, Informative
    See, in high school, the kinds of people who want to play LAN games have the means to do so with each other over the internet. Why should they pay you for the priveledge to do it inside the school building, a place of learning and other boring stuff? That's right, they won't. It's bulky, inneffcient, easy to break, and not a good way to introduce the staff to videogames.

    What my school got away with is setting up a console game tournament. It is MUCH easier than setting up even an 8 player LAN, it's much easier to bring a GameCube and a box of games and controllers than to set up 4 PCs on a LAN. Charge a buck or two for tournament entry, have a couple freebies for the cheapskates, give a cut of the entry fees to the winner of a tournament, and watch the cash flow in. The anime club at my school (2000 students) did this a month ago and got around a hundred bucks, so don't expect to buy a new alienware box, but you could get a huge hub for the lan party you host later on.

    Good luck to you, whatever games you manage to sneak into school.

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    1. Re:Here's your problem. by MrMagooAZ · · Score: 1

      Why not do them all? Have a PC/XBOX/PS2/GAMECUBE Party/Tournament! Bring them all "together", sell them all the same food and make your dough!

  33. Profit = no by Agent000 · · Score: 1

    If you are doing this just to make money, stop. Try and run all the numbers... plain and simple, you will not make much of a profit, if any.

    1. Re:Profit = no by ottothecow · · Score: 1
      they could potentially make a profit.

      Remember, this is at their school which means they probobly arent paying for the space and as a school fundraiser they may be able to get donations in the form of LAN hardware

      I think the biggest problem soon becomes serving up the games if they arent used to it.

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  34. ... a tall order ... by ninjagin · · Score: 2, Informative
    You have, one might say, your work cut out for yourself. Many of the posts here allude to the challenges, but I felt like I could add some planning advice. I'm in a LAN group of about 6 people that meets weekly at various locations, and we've been doing this for years.

    My first suggestion is to hold your own informal LAN party at home every week for a couple months to get a feel for the logistics. You'll get a feeling for the challenges very very quickly. If you're planning on playing for six hours and you end up spending three on machine setup, network config and game patching, your LAN party idea is doomed. You have to get people set up and ready to play in 15 minutes, so planning is important. You may be able to get five or six people to play regularly, and maybe someone else can get a different group of 5-6 players meeting this way. Share notes on what works and what doesn't, decide on the games you'd like to play and what patch level you want to be at.

    You didn't say what your materials are, for one thing, and you didn't say how many people would be interested. These are BIG questions that you need to answer.

    It sounds like you might have one network jack in each classroom, at least in a few rooms. Your school's network should already accommodate fast ethernet and should be able to hand out IP addresses via DHCP. Putting one 8-port switch in each room should be sufficient.

    Decide what you're going to play! If you have to meet the approval of a teacher or chaperon sponsor, make sure they know what you're going to play. UT2K4 can be a great game for a larger LAN party, because it has a number of different game types. You can rotate from onslaught to CTF to assault, for example. If it's too gory or violent, then you'll have to pick from other options. As with questions others have raised about licensing, each person will have to buy their own copy of the game, unless you can get a game company to donate copies. Remember that everyone will have to have the proper patches applied, and if you plan on using add-on maps/skins, you'll have to make sure that these are also available. Burning five or six setup CDs withe the game patches and add-ons will make setting up each player's environment as easy as possible. Another thing to look at is if you're going to be running servers (such as UT2K4 or Call of Duty or Rise of Nations or whatever), bear in mind that it's often nice to have servers that are set up and named for the skill level of the players that will be playing on them. Having just one UT server with the bots cranked up to godlike abilities is not going to appeal to people that only frag every few months.

    If people are going to bring their own machines, decide on what the minimum standards are for the hardware. If you pick a game that requires top-flight hardware, not everyone's parents will be interested in having to pony up 100-500 dollars for the necessary upgrades. You have to pick a game that fits the hardware constraints you have, and pick hardware constraints that will make the game you choose equally playable by everyone. One of the nice things about the XBOX suggestion posted by someone else is that the hardware is pretty standardized and the titles are probably familiar enough to most parents. If you're running servers, make sure they're well-oufitted with RAM and decent processing power to handle the load. A server meltdown can bring the whole show down very quickly.

    Power is important. If you're playing with PCs, each person will need a minimum of three power outlets: 1 for monitor 1 for PC and 1 for something else (speakers, mebbe). How many power strips can you get together in one place? Remember that extension cords will become pretty valuable in getting power to each seating area

    Decide in advance what people must bring to the event. Is everyone supposed to bring their own power cords/strips/monitor/PC/mouse/keyboard/joystick? One thing to remember is that people will be more likely to abuse hardware they do not own, so if you're using machines from

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  35. What would you play, though? by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

    What games could you play at a LAN party that nobody in the local PTA wouldn't be up in arms about?

    1. Re:What would you play, though? by saarbruck · · Score: 1
      Age of Kings and Age of Mythology are pretty innocuous, much more detached from the killing than a FPS, and don't have to contend with the D&D stigma that Warcraft 3 is likely to encounter. Practically a history lesson, if you want to spin it that way ;-)

      America's Army is sponsored by Uncle Sam, and is therefore patriotic and American and all that (apologies if the poster is not in the US).

      Failing that, there's always Lords of Conquest or Master of Orion 2 if you want to kick it old school.

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    2. Re:What would you play, though? by CrackedButter · · Score: 1

      Whats that dance game that comes with a mat, fat kids hate them but parents and social workers love?

  36. Re:Lan Party Suggestions - it's a long list...sorr by nelsonal · · Score: 1

    Great list, I'd suggest adding a projector it's pretty sweet if you can display the images from either in game or the visualizations from your MP3 player on the big screen. Also, let folks play lots of games, seems like at every LAN party I was ever at, there was a big Quake (or the newest release from id) game and several smaller games (Tribes, HoM&M, Diablo etc) for those who hadn't mastered the twitch. You might throw a free lan party and rather than door prizes raise money with by raffling any donated hardware/software.

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  37. My My bitter fat computer men by Pagemakerguy · · Score: 1

    Damn why attack a kid? I bet some of you were the geeks in High School. How about you lay off and help the kid out? Give him some ideas, I am sure most of you had your own personal lan party or even x-box events. Come on... grow the %$*# up and take the stick out of your arse.

    1. Re:My My bitter fat computer men by damiam · · Score: 1
      How about you lay off and help the kid out?

      That's what most people here are trying to do. LAN parties aren't easy to plan, generally unprofitable, and it's unlikely that the school would allow one that doesn't suck. Telling the guy that is the best help he could get.

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    2. Re:My My bitter fat computer men by ninjagin · · Score: 1
      Agreed. Most of what's been posted is pretty helpful stuff, too, so I don't think everyone's been negative, despite your perception. I didn't see any attacks, per se.

      It should be noted that a LAN party is not necessarily the easiest thing to set up. Ours (6 people) comes together and is taken apart in less than five minutes each way. That's after years of practice and gathering all the necessary equipment. We recently brought in a new guy and just getting him outfitted to play with us took a full hour. Knowing what we know now, we could probably scale up to about 30 people without too much trouble, but that's knowing what we know after doing it a couple hundred times. Doing the best you can the first time is pretty important, especially if there are fundraising ambitions.

      Because you see organizations that make it look easy, it's also easy to assume that it's a simple thing to do. It's not. Making money out of it is also not so easy. When some of the posts have said that it's a very tough thing to do, and tough to make money, they were probably trying to put a reality check on his perception that it's an "effective, exciting" solution.

      It's better, I think, for him to be told about some of the very real pitfalls to expect and allow him to plan accordingly. Ultimately, it's about having fun, and I think this guy's going to have a lot of fun when he gets it rolling. Once he's got a formula that works, he can repeat it and share his knowledge with someone else, which is what I think most of the respondents are doing.

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  38. Alternate route by Argon+Sloth · · Score: 1

    It may be better to hold it on school grounds if it's an event for a school club. But, have you considered renting out a local internet cafe? Depending on the turnout, you may be better off at one of these places. Many of them offer gaming services. Some are set up specifically for gaming. Although it means you have to spend a little, there's a good chance that you can get a deal on the hourly rate if you bring a number of people. Most of these places will usually have the latest games, and the security and networking issues will have already been worked out. There are a number of other pros and cons, but I'm too damned tired to list them for you. Besides from what I remember of highschool, there's some minor research projects. Figuring the logistics of this plan shouldn't be over your head.

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  39. Answers already in Slashdot by Kartoch · · Score: 1
    You can find a lot of "old-but-still-correct" discussions about this subject in the two following Ask-Slashdot post: [1] and [2].

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  40. Power by jeffkjo1 · · Score: 1

    One of the most important things, don't put all your eggs in one basket. Get some big, long, industrial grade orange extension cords and run them from places as far apart as humanly possible. You want to make sure that you don't have 15 computers running on one circuit.

    Secondly, I echo the previous comment about good ventilation. Leaving a door open with a box fan in it should be enough. Even if it's 10 degrees out, your room will heat up rather quickly.

    Third: Headphones. Beat people that do not have headphones (if you don't, your guests surely will.)

  41. GO WITH XBOX/GAMECUBE by Sarcastic+Assassin · · Score: 1

    I really wish I had some mod points, so I could mod the XBox post up. If you want a LAN party at a high-school level, going with an X-Box [Halo/Madden] tourney is the best idea, for all the points they already mentioned. I have small (8 person) X-Box LAN parties regularly, and it's always a lot of fun. Just make sure everything is planned out in advance (teams, maps, gamestyles [ctf/deathmatch, etc]), and that you're explicit about it. I would recommend having people sign up in teams of two or four, with each team bringing their own X-Box, controllers, and LAN cable (either regular cross-over cable, or X-Box connector cable [whatever it's called]). You could also rent that stuff to make more money. Also, make sure lots and lots of people know about it. Not just through morning announcements/posters, but word-of-mouth. Things seem to travel through word-of-mouth faster than anything in high school, anyway.

    A GameCube LAN party would be just as fun (assuming you could get the equipment... I've personally never seen a GameCube Broadband Adaptor), with Mario Kart: Double Dash, or SSB:M. Also, make sure you have some reason for the losers of the tournament to stick around for... maybe get a few extra X-Boxes/GameCubes, and offer play on them at a reduced rate ($0.50/half hour).

    Along a similar vein, you could maybe encourage people to bring other games/Game Boys/DS's. Just make sure you offer The Disclaimer (see the last point).

    Don't be afraid to jack up the cost of refreshments (not too high, obviously). It's how the movie theaters make their money, and you could probably make a steal on refreshments alone.

    One last thing, and this is probably the most important... make sure you offer The Disclaimer: "[We/The school/etc] are not responsible for any lost or stolen items." Again, along this train of thought, you may want to emulate rules your school has about things like this...

  42. Other fundraisers by qw0ntum · · Score: 1

    I am my class' president, so I have been through my fair share of fundraisers. I know that most of these won't be suitable (or desirable) for your club, but perhaps they could spark some ideas.

    Our largest fundraiser is Homecoming, specifically the dance. I know, not something you probably want to do (I don't like doing it anyway), but dances do have incredible profit margins.... Unless, of course, you have school who doesn't have much spirit, in which case dances are a total flop. We only have one major, non-prom dance at our school, and the only reason that is mildly successful is because it is something of a tradition. While a pain in the ass, dances are great for making money.

    Our second biggest fundraiser is Battle of the Bands. Though it has a somewhat smaller profit margin, it still nets us about $1000 a year. Plus, it's a whole lot more fun to put together and hold, mostly because you don't have to put up with football players and cheerleaders.

    What else do we do... Oh yes, dues are always good. They make money. T-shirt sales work, if the design is cool. If you make shirts, try to use few colors (cheaper). That way, you can sell them for only a few bucks and still make a good 75%-100% profit.

    Most of these things are more for Student Councils, of course, but I'm sure you could modify them to suit your needs. Since you're a tech group, perhaps you could offer to build/fix/update computers at low prices for the community. That could make a profit, especially if you *adjust* prices for parts! ;)

    Anyway, good luck with your fundraiser. If all else fails, you can always find some rich old dude to bum off of.

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  43. Nukemlan by Rinisari · · Score: 1

    The majority of the past NukemLANs have been held at Seneca Valley HS in PA, right around Cranberry/Harmony/Zelionople. We've never had any problems. Watch out, though, don't expect to have Internet access. We do, but when we need patches, we have to otherway it a lot.

  44. Go with consoles by C0rinthian · · Score: 1

    It's been said before in this thread, and is worthy of saying again. Start out with a console lan party. The logistics are just so much simpler:

    1) less equipment needed. One Xbox + one TV accomodates 4 players. Setup is a snap, so you won't spend hours trying to get everything up and running. The school should have TV's that you can use, so that shouldn't be an issue. Plus, you can probably snag a couple of projectors, which is really cool for console play.

    2) Equipment is standardized. You're using consoles, so you don't have to worry if people can run the games well, patch versions, etc. Trust me, this is such a PITA with a PC lan.

    3) Accessability. People are more familiar with consoles, therefore more comfortable. Plus, you'll draw a bigger crowd using consoles. I hate to say it, but there are not as many PC gamers as there are console. It'll be easier for you to provide equipment with consoles as well. So more people can show up and just play, instead of lugging their own equipment.

    4) Easier to accomodate faculty concern. Most decent PC games are violent as hell. If the faculty is wary of what you're playing, you have better options. Heck, get some GameCubes and play Mario Kart or Super Smash Brothers. FUN games that teachers really can't say no to.

    I love PC games as much as the next guy, but for ease of setup, you can't beat consoles.

    1. Re:Go with consoles by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      *I hate to say it, but there are not as many PC gamers as there are console.*

      however.. of people that would like to go to a lan party, and play over the weekend there, practically all are into pc gaming.

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    2. Re:Go with consoles by C0rinthian · · Score: 1

      It'll be easier to get someone who isn't a "hardcore gamer" to show up to a console party where all they have to bring is their hands, and cash for drinks/snacks. Joe student isn't going to drag his computer, monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, and powerstrip to school. (I know I wouldn't, and I'm a pc gamer)

      Using consoles will make it easier to boost attendance up.

      Again, I love PC games. But there is a lot to be learned from the simplicity of console gaming.

    3. Re:Go with consoles by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      yes.. but a full fledged lan party really *needs* hardcore gamers to fly.

      if we were talking about an evening of play or something.. just as a way to get to know people or meet chicks, then consoles and some ddr would be in order.

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  45. Halo/DDR Party by Tritoph · · Score: 1

    The FIRST team I work with had the same idea, but the logistics of setting up a LAN (everyone having legit copies of games being the big one, the pain of bringing so many computers to one place, the actual organization and set-up/clean-up of such an event would've taken forever) were too much for them, and so a Halo/DDR party was planned instead.

    It is much easier to set-up 10 Xboxes then 10 computers. It was a 2v2 tournament, double elimination, with a $25 or so gift card to EB/Best Buy for the top team. Selling drinks, snacks, pizza, and charging a $5 admission fee, we made around $200-$300, and we'll be doing it again. And this time with actual advertising, instead of word-of-mouth.

    Only thing is that we didn't expect so many people, so we the tournament took a little longer then expected, but it was damn fun. And set-up/clean-up was definetly a lot easier then a LAN party.

  46. The Way we Did It by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We just threw one at our school, and charged 10 bucks a pop for a BYOC lan party. It was a decent turnout with around 25 people. We got the tech department at school to lend us some hubs and a tech to set up the seperate network. We also got some pizza places and tech places to donate money. The only thing that didn't work is that alot of kids showed up without the right software. For instance, i was running HL2 while others were on 1.6, while other where on 1.5, so make sure you specify that they have that software preinstalled or they cant play. Maybe its just because Shrewsbury, MA has its head up its ass.

  47. What we do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Me and another 20-40 people have a lan party every lunch hour with the game "bzflag". It's an open source tank game thats like battlezone but with flags and good graphics. It runs on pentium 133's and up so it works on everything. We have 1 computer that runs as a server and is hooked up to a projector and does a set pattern around the map.We charge cash for use of our "high quality" machines which are duron 1 ghz's with nvidia tnt2 cards. We have made over 300 dollars in the last 5 months.

    1. Re:What we do by Coolnat2004 · · Score: 1

      Yes, we plan to offer bzflag servers and have it available for local download. It's an awesome game indeed.

    2. Re:What we do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good graphics? Maybe for 1994.

  48. watch out. by ianjk · · Score: 1

    If you HS is anything like the HS I went to, people are going to want to walk out with whatever gadgets, cables, etc. that they can find.

  49. xbox by Skadet · · Score: 0

    I'm not sure how your high school is, but mine had some decently sized projecters in many classrooms. If you have a significant number of classrooms equipped this way, with LAN infrastructure already in place, get as many xboxen as you can find and get a big halo2 tourney going.

    No worrying about hacking, patching issues, and everyone gets to play on a big-ass projector.

    I can't remember what the max halo2 allows you to play at once, but say you have 5 classrooms to work with, at 4 per room that's 20 people, right? $5 a person and there's $100 for your club with minimal effort.

  50. Use Cube by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use cube from http://cubeengine.com/ as it is a great multiplayer game which is open source (ie free to use). It will run on just about anything as well.

    Get people to bring their own gear, loads of geeks like to show off their kit. I've never had any problems just using a few home network hubs linked together.

    Most people play games these days, don't make things too geeky.

  51. Been LAN, Done That by j.bellone · · Score: 1

    I (along with a few others) founded a LAN organization that operated out of our school for 4 events; and then we took it to a firehouse shortly after we graduated. We started small (25-30 people) and eventually ended up mid-sized (60-65 people). Our school provided us with the means of handling money (a club account; buying purposes) our first LAN was run with mostly Hubs and house switches.

    We were later able to buy switches (after the first LAN) that were more than adequate for a mid-range LAN-party. The wiring is a bitch though; you need to have someone that knows how to wire CAT5, because it does take a *long* (see: long) time if you have absolutely no idea. Also, think about investing in a cable tester - it will save a lot of time.

    Our school was pretty leanient about it; we had them on weekends for about 10 hours in the Cafe, they didn't care about who was playing what. All they wanted was signed permission forms (even from people over 18 - we were allowed to have older people there) with the obvious things on them.

    My suggestions are: start small, borrow a few projectors and run Xbox Halo games as well (this was fun for when people got tired of Counter-Strike/Quake 3) and make sure you have enough *power* (see: power). Power is *the* hardest thing to get right. Make sure you have access to the breaker box as well. Good luck!

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  52. Think outside the box, loser! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't organize a LAN party in the school to raise money, you idiot! Organize a kegger in the woods behind your school, and charge $5/cup. Much larger target audience = more money.

    Plus, you might actually get laid-- which will never happen at a school-sanctioned LAN party.

  53. Sad Story of a HS LAN Party by amemily · · Score: 1

    Just a little story before you get caught in the same trap as these children with your school.

    Once upon a time at a school district I once worked for, one of the technology classes wanted to hold a LAN party as an end-of-semester celebration. They wanted to host it in the high school building since the building was fully wired with switched 100 MB drops and had power and space.

    Their teacher agreed to supervise this all-night party and parental agreement slips were signed by all the students parents. The IT department signed off on allowing students to bring in their own equipment as long as they followed a few simple rules that the IT department put in place.

    The party turned out to be a disaster. The teacher went to the staff lounge and was asleep for most of the night (don't you just love security cameras) and left 20 teenage boys all alone with their games.

    Well a couple of the boys decided that exploring the network and trying to use the 'sploit of the week against the network systems was much more fun than playing games.

    The next morning, the IT department browsed thru the logs and found that a few boys have spent the entire night trying to crack into both the Linux and Windows servers without avail. As a result of this sudden lost of trust of the IT department, LAN parties are officially banned on the school district network as declared from the superintendent and the board of education.

    Moral of the story, if the HS lets you host the LAN party, make sure your friends are supervised and they don't do anything stupid. That one bit of trust can be lost forever if one of your friends takes the trust they were given and wastes it away in order to "change my grades".

    1. Re:Sad Story of a HS LAN Party by Coolnat2004 · · Score: 1

      We won't have problems with people messing with the network, because it will be detatched from the school's network. This frees us from any rules regarding the use of 'network resources'.

    2. Re:Sad Story of a HS LAN Party by j.bellone · · Score: 1

      Not sure why you would need these kids to be connected to the School's network anyway. All you need to do is have a simple DSL or Cable connection to the outside for authentication, file patches, and email. You do not need to be connected to the school network for that. We turned out fine with no network connection at all.

      Poor planning on the IT department; they should have been smarter than to allow access to the network. They could setup an alternate means of connecting the switches (seperate switches) or simply kill the link to the main network.

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  54. It can be done... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't be discouraged by all the naysayers here. I've been to multiple high school sponsored lan parties to raise money, and they all went through fine. For starters, sell passes that get you into the lan and give you a snack or two, some pizza, and some bawls. I suppose there's room for variation there. From there, just sell everything individually, and make sure you're stocked.

    As for the gaming, xbox couldn't be much easier. Just couple a few boxen with projectors and a router and you have an instant party. PC is fine if you have all the games planned out and patches hosted on the network, but it would probably be best to test the waters first. Regarding the content of the games played, I've found that most of the adults supervising let you do your own thing as long as you don't do anything stupid with a projector. Good luck

  55. Our lan party (Happy story!) by Urthen+Rampage · · Score: 1

    I was in charge of the lan party at our high school. It was a blast. We played the trial version of halo, so we did not have to worry about copyright issues or people not having the game. We simply installed the trial on all the computers in the computer lab (They are relatively new: Horrid graphics, but it works.). We only had one port left on the hub, so I was the only one allowed to bring my computer up so it could act as the server. It was amazing. We bought some food, but a lot of food was donated. We even had enough left over for a $25 gift certificate to GameStop while still getting some nice profit. Just for reference, we charged $5 for entrance, and 30 people entered. -25 for the gift certificate and -25 for food left $100. We also had some donations, bringing it closer to $150.

  56. NOT TRUE by colman77 · · Score: 1

    Apparently you haven't been to a decent high school. At my school, we've got seriously HUNDREDS of computers running EVERY DAY. There's AT LEAST one computer in every room, and we've got two 25-computer labs. Trust me, if his school is like mine, the infrastructure for this kind of thing is there. If only they weren't all IMacs!!!!

  57. Lanparty.com by WyrdOne · · Score: 1

    I can't belive anyone hasn't pointed you at Lanparty.com

    The Guide: http://www.lanparty.com/theguide/

    And lanparties by and large are not $$$ makers unless you already have all the gear (or can have it provided on a sponsor basis), advertising materials and such.

    My biggest expenditure is for tables & chairs. I already own all my own network equipment and spare servers though.

    The biggest way to make your party a success is to limit the number of games, run some contests (with prizes), and advertise the heck out of it.

    1. Re:Lanparty.com by Coolnat2004 · · Score: 1

      Yes, I have seen that guide. We have tables, chairs, network equipment, etc. Most of the stuff we need we can provide ourselves for free!

  58. our school by Deanalator · · Score: 1

    When we had lan parties at our school, we did it in the cafeteria, and a few people would just bring in some large hubs they had lying around.

    You can charge at the door if you are trying to raise money, and you could even rent out games, sell drinks, run tournaments or whatever (a dollar to enter and the winner gets a free 6 pack of bawls).

    The problem this is the lack of game options. Unless you have a super lax district, any FPS isnt going to work. Games like warcraft 3 and starcraft are great games to play at lan parties, and who can ever resist the thrill of playing microsoft hearts over the network.