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Das Keyboard: Hit Any Key
Black hardware just can't help looking cool (think TIE fighters, NeXT Cubes, and the hard-to-find black SE/30 case you might have lusted for in 1994), but have you ever wanted an all-black keyboard? Das Keyboard, from Austin-based Metadot, fills the craving for those so afflicted, and by "all-black," I mean something very nearly that: except a small white label ("Das Keyboard") in the upper left corner and labels for the three usual indicator lights -- num lock, caps lock, and scroll lock -- there's nothing but black to see. The keys are unlabeled in any conventional sense, though the index-finger keys of the conventional home row (F and J) are marked with the usual small bumps; theoretically, this should make typing more accurate after a time, just because cheating with one's eyeballs isn't a possibility. It's the aesthetic opposite of the recently announced Optimus keyboard; this is high minimalism applied to the modern keyboard. The truth is, I wanted to like Das Keyboard. It looks cool, and the concept sounds, well, sound. The thing itself left me a bit disappointed, though; I've outlined my reasoning below.
The problem with inviting comparison
Metadot borrowed from the best in the design of their keyboard: dimensionally, it's just about a dead ringer for an IBM Model M. Compared to my 1984 Model M, Das Keyboard's chassis is less than a half-inch shy of the M's longest dimension, and that half inch is shaved off the the outermost edge; key size, curvature and placement are identical to that of the Model M, at least to the limit of the measuring instruments mounted to each side of my nose. (The underside looks quite a bit different, though: A fair amount of Das Keyboard's undercarriage is just empty space, because the plastic underneath follows the curve of the keys themselves, leaving a small wedge of air.) The board's 6-foot USB cable (nice and chunky) exits to the rear through a neat slot straight up from the Caps Lock indicator.
However, the dimensions are unfortunately where the resemblance ends, because the great thing about older, mechanical-action keyboards like the Model M is not so much how they look, but how they feel beneath the hand. Instead of the clacking, snapping action of buckling-spring keyboards, manufacturers have mostly moved to cheaper, less-complicated membrane keyboards, some of which feel better than others. My impression on opening the box and giving the black keyboard a lengthy groping was that the Das Keyboard's action is a bit squishy. To be fair, in the current keyboard market, most of the competition feels no better, and many competitors feel worse. Some people prefer the feel of membrane keyboards, though, so don't take my word for it -- taste in keyboards is idiosyncratic at best. As membrane boards go, Das Keyboard is on the good side of average.
About that extreme makeover ...
So what does the all-black color scheme do for one's typing speed? According to the company, by taking away the crutch of key labels, the user is forced to learn better typing skills and concentrate on their computer's screen.
This may be true for some people, and it sounds like a good theory, but in several weeks of use, I never quite swam, and mostly sank. Whenever I'd hit a wrong key (which was often), I found myself either hunting-and-pecking or craning my neck to peek at a conventional keyboard a few feet away for guidance. I'm an untutored typist, but several years of moderately heavy keyboarding mean I'm at least not a newcomer to entering text with a keyboard -- I even rather enjoy it, most days. However, maybe I'm just a slow learner, but I haven't had as much frustration with a keyboard since I played with a Twiddler a few years ago. Maybe I glance at my keys more than I realize on my conventional keyboard, or maybe it's simply that I had a hard time getting used to the feel of the board, but in the end I ended up disappointed with my speed using Das Keyboard. That's not to say that a better typist would feel the same; maybe I'm just not to the threshold of typing skill that Das Keyboard requires.
According to a company representative, the keys on Das Keyboard are divided into several distinct groups, each with their own response. I tried in vain to detect the difference between keys in various groups, and think I faintly detected it, sometimes. But the difference between any two of the keys on this keyboard (harping, I know) seems far less than that between any of Das Keyboard's keys and its equivalent key on a mechanical-action board. An exception is the space bar, which really did take the promised extra effort to press down: this is a welcome change, and I hope other keyboard makers license (or at least copy!) the idea, because I tend to keep my thumbs on the space bar. (I'd like to see a mechanical-switch version of Das Keyboard, which would retain the neat looks but do away with the milquetoast response.) My muscle memory isn't what it used to be The upshot, at least to me, is that Das Keyboard has a feel slightly better than the run-of-the-mill keyboards on offer at mass-market retailers, and much cooler looks, but costs a bit more than those differences justify, at least to my wallet. The industrial approach of this keyboard would be a perfect match for a gaming or overclocking system built for clean, industrial looks, and a better deal than most "high tech" sculpture, but I'm unconvinced that it's truly a practical improvement. If I wanted a keyboard with the claimed advantages of an absence of key-cap labels, I think I'd hit local thrift stores until I found a model that felt acceptable to my hands, and pick up can apiece of spray paint and lacquer.
This may be true for some people, and it sounds like a good theory, but in several weeks of use, I never quite swam, and mostly sank. Whenever I'd hit a wrong key (which was often), I found myself either hunting-and-pecking or craning my neck to peek at a conventional keyboard a few feet away for guidance. I'm an untutored typist, but several years of moderately heavy keyboarding mean I'm at least not a newcomer to entering text with a keyboard -- I even rather enjoy it, most days. However, maybe I'm just a slow learner, but I haven't had as much frustration with a keyboard since I played with a Twiddler a few years ago. Maybe I glance at my keys more than I realize on my conventional keyboard, or maybe it's simply that I had a hard time getting used to the feel of the board, but in the end I ended up disappointed with my speed using Das Keyboard. That's not to say that a better typist would feel the same; maybe I'm just not to the threshold of typing skill that Das Keyboard requires.
According to a company representative, the keys on Das Keyboard are divided into several distinct groups, each with their own response. I tried in vain to detect the difference between keys in various groups, and think I faintly detected it, sometimes. But the difference between any two of the keys on this keyboard (harping, I know) seems far less than that between any of Das Keyboard's keys and its equivalent key on a mechanical-action board. An exception is the space bar, which really did take the promised extra effort to press down: this is a welcome change, and I hope other keyboard makers license (or at least copy!) the idea, because I tend to keep my thumbs on the space bar. (I'd like to see a mechanical-switch version of Das Keyboard, which would retain the neat looks but do away with the milquetoast response.) My muscle memory isn't what it used to be The upshot, at least to me, is that Das Keyboard has a feel slightly better than the run-of-the-mill keyboards on offer at mass-market retailers, and much cooler looks, but costs a bit more than those differences justify, at least to my wallet. The industrial approach of this keyboard would be a perfect match for a gaming or overclocking system built for clean, industrial looks, and a better deal than most "high tech" sculpture, but I'm unconvinced that it's truly a practical improvement. If I wanted a keyboard with the claimed advantages of an absence of key-cap labels, I think I'd hit local thrift stores until I found a model that felt acceptable to my hands, and pick up can apiece of spray paint and lacquer.
Want to do something more practical? Get a Braille keyboard and learn that while typing. It's a skill, right?
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
Das Keyboard: For people whose desks are a complete Disaster Area.
Though I hear it works best on the new Sun "Diver" systems.
"Its this wild colour scheme that freaks me, you know.
When you press one of these black buttons that are labeled
in black on a black background, a little black light lights
up black to let you know you've done it!"
that was the longest thinkgeek advertisement ever.
Wow, 80 bucks for what I can do with 3 dollars worth of spray paint or some solvent to get rid of the letters.
Why in the world does it cost $80?
Long signatures suck.
A can of black paint, people!
In the war between style and substance, you are the losers!
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I don't want to be a jerk or anything, but this has been up on every site I read, including /. for the last couple of months. I find it hard to believe that an editor has never heard of this before submitting this.
This is like posting a story about the invention of the Roomba. I assure you, we know. We read about it on Fark, Gizmodo, Slashdot, and every other techy blog out there months ago, over and over again.
Okay, I can type (quite well) without looking at the keyboard, but I'll be damned if I can remember which key is "scroll lock", which is "print screen", and which is "pause/break". And where's that pipe again? Accent mark?
Form over function is never positive.
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"If you are going to get one; get two: one for you and one for your best friend."
Because I know my friends would just love it if I secretly replaced their keyboard with one that had no labels on it. Of course they wouldn't be able to email me their problems any more.... hmmm maybe it is a good idea after all.
How is this news?
While we're on the subject, I've been looking for one of the old black, metal keyboards from the 80's. But to no avail. Does anyone have any tips? PS/2, AT, whatever doesn't matter. Thanks.
Spinal Tapish...
"Eve of Destruction", it's not just for old hippies anymore...
For 80 bux I will gladly gouge out your eyes. Your typing will increase and you may develope super sonic hearing, which you can then use to fight crime vigilante style.
go w/ the happy hacking keyboard instead .. it's just as bad ass black and wonderfully small (with full sized keys) and has great action.
http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/en/hhkeyboard/images/20 0B.jpg
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/pfuca-store/haphackeyl it1.html
david reuteler
Get a Happy Hacking Blank Key keyboard instead. It is three times the price but it is a lot smaller, doesn't have that totally useless numeric pad no one uses nowadays, or those retarded so-called Windows keys. It is a lot lighter, too. What is the use of having the best keyboard if you cannot carry it and brag around with it?
God, root, what is difference ?
OK, I'm a fast typer. Really fast - I tend to average between 80-100 wpm (I'm juuusst a bit below the highscores on TyperA).
I've got a keyboard that's essentially the same. It's a Canadian keyboard layout, which has a QWERTY layout, but all of the auxiliary stuff is labelled wrong (shift-2 is ", for instance). But I've got it on an English layout.
I can type on it - reasonably well. But sometimes I still have to guess as to where the | key is, or exactly which one is the ]. It hasn't really sped things up.
I would've preferred leaving labels on for the non-letter characters. Especially considering that not all special character layouts are the same on keyboards - especially laptops (where the heck is the delete key!).
You can still get buckling-spring keyboards at PCKeyboard.com. Nothing beats the feel of a buckling-spring, I find myself agreeing with the reviewer.
One of the features of a truly good keyboard is the ability to be serviced by its user without destroying the keyboard - after spilling pizza, coke, and cereal all over it, I expect to be able to take off the keys and mop up the remains of my ill-advised snacking over the keyboard. This feature (ability to perform simple repair/maintenance like this) is commong to buckling-spring keyboards, but I have to ask, is it a possibility on this one? Is this one of those bubble matrix ones, or what?
Just wish I had more information on Das Keyboard.
The May posting was a product annoucement-type story. This posting is actually a review.
While "dupe" is usually the way to bet, around here, you bet wrong this time. Thanks for playing...
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en
I will not use naughty language like I did before, but for me to find the dupe it takes: Apple+L TAB site:slashdot.org das keyboard RETURN
Do they do this for attention or something? Surely they have used google before. Slack bastards.
Then there's these mice, I am quite happy with my Logitech 3 button mouse circa 1995. It works perfectly for me (of course you need to periodically clean them) and doesn't have that stupid scroll device that everyone seems so intent in putting in them these days. That reminds me, I need to go to the local computer recycling place and dig around in their bins to find some good keyboards and mice to stockpile that have a reasonable layout before the entire earth is plagued with these new marvels that annoy me so much.
I don't expect everyone here to agree with me, i know quite a few people who love their scroll wheels and fancy optical mice. I'm just not one of them.
Just take some typing lessons, and you won't be looking at the keys anyway.
I know the very idea of slashdotters learning something from being taught is wildly foreign, but figure I'd throw it out there anyway. This is a product with no real market outside of a handful of elite idiots whom you'd never want to meet anyway.
It doesn't mean much now, it's built for the future.
It's the black one.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
How much more black could it be?
None. None more black.
If you can't touchtype with the number of typing tutor programs available as free or share out there, well, then I guess you've no interest in touchtyping, so -of course- a keyboard without letters is going to suck for you.
... but otherwise...)
However, a keyboard without letters is going to suck even worse for games. I mean, I touch type in dvorak, so it's not like I use the letters anyway (okay, I could peek for A and M
When gaming though, I put my keyboard back in qwerty mode, because games don't use the keyboard as a -keyboard-. You can't put both hands on it and touchtype... you've got to keep a hand on the mouse or joystick. The keyboard acts as a control panel of buttons, not as a text entry device. An unlabeled keyboard for games would really and truly suck.
Well.
Unless you took advantage of this to put your own labels on the keys, maybe.
--Parity
'Card carrying' member of the EFF.
I want a keyboard that changes color based on how hard I'm banging the keys. :)
Black and blue is the color of the day.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
TIE Fighters aren't black.
Sorry. It's Slashdot. I had to say it.
Against stupidity the Gods themselves contend in vain.
http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/en/hhkeyboard/hhkbpro/n okeytop.html
And, yes, they have charcoal grey, too. Or better yet, a model with barely visible labels for the occasional search for the Print Screen key.
I can testify that the HHKB Lite is a great keyboard. I have two.
Has anyone tried a Pro model?
Oddly enough, the only keys missing from my 10 year old IBM keybaord are F, N, O, R, and D.
"Everything you know is wrong. (And stupid.)"
Moderation Totals: Wrong=2, Stupid=3, Total=5.
Sophisticated Nerd #2: Ah yes, 1984. The vintage is most excellent.
Nerd 1: Can you believe that some people actually type on (shocked whisper) PS/2 keyboards?
Nerd 2: That's positively scandalous! Worse yet, I was at my financial institution (banks are for the unwashed masses) yesterday, and the teller was actually typing on a Logitech USB keyboard. Every time he hit the Windows key, I wanted to lecture him on real keyboards and the proper volume of key clack, but it would have been completely lost on the brute.
Nerd 1: It's completely ridiculous. There should be laws against such mindless use mundane computer components.
Or did nobody else think it was odd how the author compared it to a 20 year old design as if it were a car or a fine wine?
Bonus points for doing nice phrases without extra keys.
What you want are perfect pangrams:
Blowzy night-frumps vex'd Jack Q.
Glum Schwartzkopf vex'd by NJ IQ.
New job: fix Mr. Gluck's hazy TV, PDQ!
Squdgy fez, blank jimp crwth vox!
Frowzy things plumb vex'd Jack Q.
J. Q. Vandz struck my big fox whelp.
Quartz glyph job vex'd cwm finks.
Phlegms fyrd wuz qvint jackbox.
Zing, vext cwm fly jabs Kurd qoph.
Cwm fjord bank glyphs vext quiz.
Jumbling vext frowzy hacks PDQ.
Mr. Jock, TV Quiz Ph.D, bags few lynx.
Junky qoph flags vext crwd zimb.
Or did nobody else think it was odd how the author compared it to a 20 year old design as if it were a car or a fine wine?
Dude, this is *slashdot*. Everybody here over 25 years old understands exactly what he's talking about with regard to the 1984 Model M's.
But your comparison is indeed apt. It's exactly like a car or a fine wine... only for nerds.
For people who sit in front of a computer 12+ hours a day, keyboards matter.
- Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
I mean, it's not exactly the first time that this keyboard is mentioned and it's not exactly rocket science either - any idiot armed with a can of black spraypaint can get the same effect on a decent keyboard.
Any any manufacturer saving money on screenprinting the keys can do this too - I guess the real innovation is to pass these savings in production costs on the customers as a premium price. No, wait, MS has been doing that for years.
Now, the Art. Lebedev keyboard really IS innovation, and guess what? It won't be terribly difficult to give that all black keys either. Just as pointless as "Das Keyboard" (yeah, saved money on branding as well) but at least it has some real innovation - and decent design.
Frankly, I can't wait to see the latter one go into production.
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Black keyboards are silly anyway.
What real geeks want is :
Das Screen!
A 21" slab of matte black plastic !
Only $3500!
Get yours now!
May contain traces of nut.
Made from the freshest electrons.
Just use it for a year and you'll get your own white Das Keyboard, with the benefit that less used keys will have markings on. The best of both worlds! That's Apple for you :p
The autostore paint you're thinking of is generally called 'Vinyl Dye', or upholstery dye, and it works on many common plastics. (Experiment. It doesn't work on *all* of them.) It won't chip, flake, or even blob up while you're spraying. You can always paint over it with another color, but you won't be able to dye anything that's been painted previously. It's good stuff, and I prefer it to spray paint when altering the color of anything plastic. (Drive bay covers and drive faceplates, for instance.)