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MS Upgrades To Be Smaller And More Frequent
duplicantk8 writes "Following the numerous delays to the Vista launch, MS is planning to have more frequent and smaller incremental upgrades, according to the Financial Times." From the article: "Those delays are set to end late next year with the simultaneous launch of new versions of Windows and the Office suite of PC applications in the company's most significant new product cycle since Windows 95. The new versions of the company's key PC software are likely to rekindle higher growth after a period that saw its growth rate slip below 10 per cent for the first time last year, according to Wall Street analysts. Mr Ballmer's comments are the most public sign yet of the dent to Microsoft's confidence in its core development process that resulted from the Vista delays."
Wonder if they have finally figured out a way to update the OS without performing a reboot.
Isn't that what "Service Packs" are?
I don't think they can get much smaller than the changes planned in Vista.
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Oh, I forgot, since Microsuck is doing it, it is Innovation. Gotcha.
It makes more sense though, if they copy, I mean, innovate it like the Apple way...
It's either on the beat or off the beat, it's that easy.
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We want to make life easier by giving only one update a month... then a few months later... we want to ensure timely security patches, so we will release them as soon as we make them...
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I think they're trying to please too many people at the same time... this is called 'impossible'...
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For some reason windows update will be replaced by the commands.
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
These "smaller and more frequent" releases were formerly free bugfixes. Now they will be crap you have to pay for. I think we'll see things like the service pack issues where small fix #9 worked okay, but #8 and #10 had horrible issues.
"Scientists don't change their minds, they just die." -- Max Planck
It only took about a zillion years for them to invent the idea...
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Wasn't WinFS originally supposed to be out with NT 4, and they *still* can't make it?
So they want us to pay $150.00 per month for a security patch? No thanks. The more I hear about Vista, the more I want to stay with XP. Heck, I'd revert back to 2000 if it wasn't for a support drop. Get a grip Microsoft.
Does this mean that microsoft will have more releases than Debian Woody?
Smaller, more frequent upgrades will cost more to publish, will increase their support costs, and won't result in increased sales/upgrades. Most home users upgrade automatically when they buy a new PC, most corporate users upgrade en masse when there is good reason to do so. Trying to shorten the upgrade cycle in the corporate environment will backfire. Smart IT managers will still only upgrade when there is a compelling reason to do so, and now they might have the opportunity to cherry-pick smaller upgrades that would theoretically be less expensive.
Microsoft almost got it right with XP, but then they got greedy/stupid at the last minute and fragmented the product line (first Pro v Home, then Media). The 31 flavors of Vista is bad enough, but to compound that with multiple, more frequent upgrades will be even worse.
Holding a security patch to a set date is not wise and only benifits those who want to exploit the OS
Compare to non-proprietary development where there is no rush to create features, and security issues get resolved quickly.
You are being MICROattacked, from various angles, in a SOFT manner.
Just change his name to Steve and call it a day.
security-enhacing and non-pain-in-the-assing?
Remember the 1997 buzzword "beleaguered"?
Does anyone else remember in the mid 1990s when Apple announced the same thing? It was around 1996, and Apple was finding it impossible to get its next generation Copland/Mac OS 8 operating system out the door. I think it was then-CEO Gil Amelio who announced after several years of delays that Apple wasn't going to do monolithic releases any longer. They would do little ones to be more manageable. Eventually, they came out with Mac OS 7.6, Mac OS 8 (what many considered to be 7.7), and Mac OS 9. That's also when they started shopping around, looking at Be and NeXT.
As Apple discovered--and now, I guess Microsoft is discovering the same thing-- it's really hard to keep backwards compatibility, drive new features, and do it within a reasonable budget when you have a big installed base. Apple's installed base was never more than a small fraction of Microsoft's, but Microsoft's resources were also proportionately more extensive.
Microsoft is having as many (or more) delays with Longhorn/Vista as Apple had with Copland/Mac OS 8. In the mean time, Apple bit the bullet with NeXT/Mac OS X back in 1997, and now they're seeing some pretty good returns on their investment. Releases have been fairly rapid, and they've introduced lots of innovative features.
So as far as coming up with their next OS, Microsoft, you can use the word now. Apple doesn't need it any more.
Insert simplistic political, ideological, or personal proselytization here.
Or is this talking about updates you get from Windows Update for free?
Myabe its because they want to go back to the "Deliver crap so that they will want to keep upgrading..." They wont make the same mistake as with Windows XP and 2000: They were so stable that there was no demand for windows 2003. Some people dont even know 2003 exists!! So, I guess Ballmer has two options: Change the business model to profit from real inovation, or go back to profit from people wanting to get out of buggy products. ... seems they are going to go the buggy way.....
That way they can keep people interested, move quicker, and can spend plenty of other time improving their underlying architecture to support even more stuff later.
They could even use the incremental upgrades as trojans for installing the base libraries for other applications they're developing.
Possibilities are endless here...
M$ recently release a beta version of WinFS, so i guess it will be there in the final version
My Linux boxes running yum?
it reboots your system for you. really pissed me off how many times i lost work to it.
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Wouldn't you love the be the developer who gets Ballmer or Gates as your pair programmer.
[developer]:You forgot to comment that code
[Ballmer]: (pickup chair and tosses it smashing his triple head display of Dell 2405 monitors) The code comment's itself!!!
[developer]: What about best practices? I'm suppose to be learning from you.
[Ballmer]: Well then start by getting off you ass and picking up that chair. Now with both hands on the arm rests.....NO NO NO...use you're back to lift, not your legs.
"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a fat white guy who is threatened by change."
It is like Microsoft is really have woken up finally and started to do something. Last few years I have had that expression that all what Microsoft wants to do is bullying it's customers. Now they are trying to impress everyone with PR shock, flooding in massive with lots of info about new products.
o f-the-comics-book".
Yeah, they feel competition, and I thank any single Linux/BSD/Solaris distro, Firefox, Apple for that. Because it is all what we need to get IT really work for common crowd - to be useful, productive, etc.
If I am honest, I have seen new screenshots and well - they don't impress me. So far I have seen a habbit to even KDE guys admit that less is more, don't even talk about GNOME and OS X guys. And here comes Windows Vista with what can I call - detail overblown. Yeah, nothing in the stone yet and I hope they will get rid of that "so-much-details-that-my-destkop-looks-like-page-
p.s. I'm not Windows user, I'm Linux/OS X advocate, but still I can't ignore what happens to
Windows world as lot of my colegues and friends uses it.
p.s.s. and yes, I think GNOME/KDE guys can create
much better and more functional eye candy than that.
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What I'm really worried about is that features that I want will be mutually exclusive between versions. In other words, I'll be forced buy the "Ultra" or "Ultimate" or whatever version to get what I need. Then again, it may just to confuse the consumer. I know a few people who bought XP Pro even though they just use their computers to surf the web and write letters. No VPN or anything like that.
Evil people don't think they're evil. - George Lucas, Making of Ep III
If I hear innovations out of MS's mouth one more time I swear...
All of the innovative features I've heard about in the up coming ms poo (read: vista) is that it will have a cleaner gui (read: like aqua) allow for icons to be representative of what they contain (like osx) and genie like effects for minimizing things (like osx)
It's such a buzz word these days.
the only innovation I see is copying other peoples stuff, and suing the pants off of anyone who even glances at theirs.
I bet all 7 versions of vista blow.
And what's worse, I'll probably still end up using it at work.
Today at work I was talking shit about vista. . . imagine that. A co-worker said "I can't wait for the new internet explorer!" and was serious.
I asked why, and he said "because it's going to be awesome!". again he was serious. I almost vomited.
I had to hear the rest, so I asked why it would be awesome. "its going to have tabbed browsing and other cool stuff!"
What other cool stuff I asked. "Stuff" was his reply.
Being excited about tabbed browsing is like getting excited because the new '06 Lexus will have a bose tape deck
i don't care
That's not funny.
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I think the folks who suffer with Windows are used to rebooting for all sorts of reasons. E.g. IE runs too slow, my app just crashed, I need to install a new program, something is not working,
Due to their inability to admin their own machine, some resort to throwing it out and trying again, with new hardware.
I think it is the Unix admins who have the fetish for the no-reboot. Or perhaps a single, precisely done reboot, to remotely bring up a machine with an entirely new OS.
Similary, folks who use windows think they need anti-spyware, anti-virus, extra-special firewall crap --- because they think there's no way a computer can withstand the tide of crap without extra-special help. It is just impossible to imagine that an OS could withstand it all.
Lately it seems that hardware companies are in the game -- e.g. Intel processors with features designed to make up for the deficiencies of Ballmer's bunch in Redmond.
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A very minor update to 2000 to convince people to shell out another $100 for a better looking interface, a couple of moderately usefull features little else?
Isn't that why most of the corperate and even many home users (like myself) of 2000 opted NOT to upgrade at all?
The article was sketchy, maybe smaller expense, smaller expectations make some sense. Less cost (to MS and the consumer I would think) per upgrade, less benifit, decide to upgrade every few years, but MS has part of the user base upgrading all the time, not just in the year or so after a big software release.
"Those delays are set to end late next year with the simultaneous launch of new versions of Windows and the Office suite of PC applications in the company's most significant new product cycle since Windows 95."
This quote comes from the article, not Microsoft (though it might have indirectly), however this same claim is made for every single generational release. Every media outlet picks it up and repeats it like a mantra "Most important, most significant release since Windows 95". Blah.
Since each MS app you install worms its way into the operating system, every time you install something from MS, you're "upgrading" and "patching" Windows.
I want to delete my account but Slashdot doesn't allow it.
Those delays are set to end late next year with the simultaneous launch of new versions of Windows and the Office suite of PC applications in the company's most significant new product cycle since Windows 95.
This phrase gets dusted off for every OS release MS makes. Heard it for 98, ME, 2000, XP, 2003... and will continue to hear it for every other bloody version MS flogs.
And the version tracking for patching and application compatibility testing. Holy crap! It's like the sound of a million sysads saying "Screw you!" all at once.
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this isnt a troll this is the truth, Microsoft is just taking another play out of Apples book, and one that Apples been doing for well over 7 years now ever since OS 9. Everyone knows its smarter to update your software as you find problems but M$ is well known to let bugs sit around for 3-6 months before they update it in one huge chunk.
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I updated several of my devices without a reboot. Those sort of patches seem rare, and likely for good reason.
The catch is that if you need to patch a critical system file, it's orders of magnitude more simple to just replace it upon reboot (since nothing's running). Otherwise you need to close down any applications and services that are using that file. Some system files are used by the GUI interface itself, at which point you're crossing your fingers and hoping it pops back to reality during the patch process.
It's probably technically possible to do certain patches without rebooting, but you'd have to have a savvy enough user to shut down and bring back dependent services. Linux admins are used to that sort of thing. For home users, it's far easier to simply reboot.
"with the simultaneous launch of new versions of Windows and the Office suite of PC applications in the company's most significant new product cycle since Windows 95"
Hasn't every product cycle that M$ has pushed supposedly been the "most significant since Winwods 95"?
And WINDOWS 95 is our measuring stick for a ground-breaking, life changing OS?
Enlightenment is a pipe dream. So where's the pipe?
Blah, blah, blah. How is this different from how most software vendors operate?
Now that we're publishing a new version, version 5.0, we're not going to jump right to 6.0. Instead, please be informed that you will have the pleasure of purchasing versions 5.1, 5.2, 5.3, 5.31, 5.32, and 5.4. Or, if you buy our nifty support package, you can upgrade for free*!
*Free as in not out-of-pocket since you already paid for it.
And I'm not even going to get into the fact that a lot of these incremental upgrades will just be adding functionality that was to be incorporated into Vista in the first place. Assuring a future revenue stream?
"Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
Vista was a huge vision: a new metadata-based file system, a new UI shell based on secure, managed code, a new command shell, a new UI based on DirectX that supplants the aged old GDI, a new primary developer API to supplant Win32 including APIs to the new UI and the new cross-platform messaging service, an updated browser, virtual folders, a new development model (look @ MSDN for avalon express applications), just to name a few.
Some of those features just had to be cut back or removed; with all those changes, it's no wonder the OS was delayed so many times. People complained after the delays, and now MS is forced to have smaller, shorter iterations of software releases. As long as they also cut down on the price tag, this will be good for both Windows users and Microsoft itself.
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That sounds an awful lot like the late OpenDoc platform to me. So perhaps they're doing a double-Apple-copy this time... Blatently copy Apple's product release strategy -- since Steve has been consistently beating them about the head and shoulders with it during his recent keynote speeches -- and then go dig up a dead Apple product that's been long forgotten to replicate, so that everyone thinks that Microsoft came up with it themselves! By jove, it's brilliant!
2005: with the simultaneous launch of new versions of Windows and the Office suite of PC applications in the company's most significant new product cycle since Windows 95
IIRC, wasn't almost the very same sentence used in 2001 prior to the launch of Windows XP?
A most interesting direct comparison sir and/or maam!
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
There are some breaks release to release but Tiger had a big shift in Kernel API's - the promise is that going forward that API should be pretty settled and OK to ride of top of. Tiger was a shift of a magnitude developers should not see again for a while.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
For Linux that is.
/. users will voice complaint -- Linux on the desktop sucks. The key to break into that market is ease of use and while as /.ers we can generally 'figure it out' even if we are unfamiliar, the average Joe will not. Apple is going in the right direction there but with limited hardware and inflated prices, it's not a viable alternative for the desktop, as pretty as it is.
:)
Tell me which corporation will install a new point release of ANY Microsoft OS? Hell, remember service pack 2? That's technically speaking, a whole point release. And where I work, and countless other places, IT managers opted NOT to install it for a *very* long time until the bugs were worked out in that point release.
This idea of 'smaller' and 'more frequent' upgrades plays merely into the Linux world's hands. The problem with Windows is that there's a tie-in to everything. So if a change must be made, it affects the OS at the kernel level. With Linux, kernel updates aren't as frequent nor as impacting. However, KDE can release a new version and since it's part of x windows and not attached to the OS in a surgical manner, it really doesn't matter. People don't know that now because Linux isn't mainstream, but they will when they find themselves extensively testing for compatibility with legacy apps they have in-house, or whatever with regards to Windows.
This is the opportunity for the Linux community to come together and offer a *true* desktop competitor to Windows. As it stands right now, and I know the
If Linux as a desktop becomes EASY to use (and I mean damned near idiotproof), the server can pretty much remain as it is. Nobody cares about the server when they are using their desktop, especially as an end-user in say, Accounting. They just want to get their figures out the door without having applications crash and close on them.
Now's the time to do it though.. Microsoft is going to set themselves up badly with Vista... and sometimes you only get one good chance to whack the bad guy in the back of the head. And then kick him while he's down
The price is always right if someone else is paying.
Note that the statement does not say "a release MORE significant than Windows 95".
Windows 95 was like the major hit from an artist, where people keep buying thier music for a while because that one osng was so good. Eventually though you realize it's the same old tune and move on.
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its a terrible idea to lift with your back instead of your legs.
"Bend at the knees" is what they say
Cause there's nothing funny about back pain.
If I get modded down, someone obviously didn't get the humor.
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Is anyone here planning on buying Vista (Longhorn, whatever) when I comes out? I've being serious. I would love to finally (!) have a rock-solid OS from MS (if this is it). I worried about DRM, though. I don't want MS controlling when and how I can use software, music, whatever on my machine. I'm concerned about the things I read about Vista (with MS cozying up to movie and music corporations). I buy all my media. I do not pirate, and I don't like being treated like one (that go for you to, Valve!)
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Like once and hour? I got an idea, write the code so it doesnt have to be patched, then patch less frequently.
Macro$haft had previously claimed that the Windows family was more secure due to less patches required in comparison to *nix.
I think it is great when the FUD boils down to fact.
How is Microsoft TOO ambitous. WinFS seems less ambitious than Hans Reiser's file system. How is it it that a very driven individual can out do Bill's Army? It seems that MS doesn't have as much ambition as Reiser, at least when it comes to file systems. Reiser 4 rocks and I'll bet it will be the cornerstone of some mind blowing advances in areas a s diverse as XML storage/quering & Object databases when other start making plug-ins.
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the company's most significant new product cycle since Windows 95.
Sorry, but are they saying that Vista is somehow more significant than XP? The move from XP to Vista (which sounds like just XP with different colors, and more DRM) is somehow more significant than the move from 16-bit segments to a flat 32-bit address space?Cantankerous old coot since 1957.
release security update ...
sleep 1
release security update
sleep 1
This is interesting since usually MSFT is holding back these kinds of things BEFORE big marketing pushes( read product releases ). They do this so that they can make the public think there's a reason to upgrade...
IMO, this can only mean that there are enough MSFT customers threatening to "move on" instead of waiting for the next great thing MSFT is betting the business on.
Good luck with THAT Steve. You're gonna need it.
LoB
"Anyone who stands out in the middle of a road looks like roadkill to me." --Linus
Lately it seems that hardware companies are in the game -- e.g. Intel processors with features designed to make up for the deficiencies of Ballmer's bunch in Redmond.
Back scratching at it's finest. Microsoft bloats it's OS and applications, so people have to purchase a new computer and pay the Intel and Microsoft tax.
*DrugCheese rants*
Smaller and more frequent also means less expensive and yearly. Which basically means that Microsoft is moving to the subscription model it always wanted. Windows users will pay a "small amount" e.g., 20 bucks, every year for minor and insignificant updates. In other words, we'll be paying for what we now get for free.
If someone says he and his monkey have nothing to hide, they almost certainly do.
if you get Enterprise edition of MSFT Vista you are required by contract to ONLY rent software, you can't own it, for all apps from MSFT, so that they can pull the plug on all your apps all at once.
This is insidious. Kind of like "oh, my domain has expired" and then not just the site but your entire workplaces worldwide for your corporations goes dark and you can't even email MSFT.
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I'm sure it will allow them to verify the authenticity of your copy of the software much more frequently as well.
I went to MS web site to download Direct X 9.0 for a game demo I had installed. I was quite pissed that it needed to verify my copy of XP before allowing me to download it. If Bill could see through my monitor, he would have seen me flipping him the bird. Luckily I found a previously downloaded copy buried in a directory.
As far as I'm concerned, the only verification Microsoft needs is my cash at cash register.
(tinfoilhat)
More frequent updates, so that they can slowly lay the groundwork for mandatory upgrades to Vista?
(/tinfoilhat)
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My girlfriend said this about sex. Shorter sessions, but more frequently. Hasn't worked out yet. I still like the longer sessions ;-)
UM... I think that's an AMD tax, not an Intel tax? The buffer overflow prevention I've heard of relates to AMD's 64-bit processors, and is enabled in XP SP2 and XP 64-bit. I have not heard of this in any Intel 32-bit processor.
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I think this is the wrong view to take. Buffer overflows exist on all platforms, despite being a problem that has been known about for decades. This is once case where Microsoft's use of their monopoly position was for the good of mankind.
With NX support, buffers can still be overflowed, but the attacker can't run code they've written. They can still jump to the entry point of any valid function that's in memory, and can select the arguments which will be passed to that function. In practice, non-executable page tables make a huge dent in the remote exploit due to buffer overflow problem.
Intel has had no-execute memory protection since the 386, but only offered it for segments, not pages. But, nobody (ok, practically nobody) designs a segmented OS these days. Everyone uses paging. Segmentation is one of those legacy things in the x86 architecture which should be taken out and shot. Only they can't because it would break backwards compatibility.
So, these newer features really are designed to make up for the deficiencies of programmers. It seems programmers are not capable of writing code which is free from buffer overflows. Well, at least not in C...
Haven't they said the same thing about literally every OS release since Win95? And then we all realize that it's basically the same thing with a new facelift. Some of the old problems and annotyances will be fixed and replaced with a laundry list of new ones. And so the cycle continues...
you mean, more like a virus?
hmm.
-Styopa
Just like Sony Entertainment has been doing for Everquest2, don't give patches for free, charge people. Call them "Adventure Packs" and come up with fancy names so people think they are getting something extra and not something they should be getting anyway. Let's see, call the first critical patch: "The Spyware Saga" and part of the "Adventure Pack" includes a popup blocker and anti-spoofing Software. They can start advertising an Expansion Pack "Vista: The Clone Wars" and have people pay for more patches.
Microsoft released a patch for their Microsoft Bo product. The first minor change, made the product o, but two additional changes restored the product to it's pre-o status: Bo, and another subsequent change appended some code, now completing the product upgrade: "Bob". "This is a historic date for both Microsoft, and Microsoft research. With our new product, we forsee our computers to be much more intuitive and simpler to use" quipped one staffer. "We will show the world that our innovation is second to none with this product". Rumor has it that the new system will also have a secret variation on the product, based around a paper clip, code named "clippy" although code names "vista" and "Longhorn" have also been used for their new product. Stay tuned!
Where I work we're only now getting Office 2003 because the IT department tested thoroughly and was waiting for the worst of the (numerous) bugs to be patched by MS.
No large company is going to install any update or software without some testing first. Short-cycle incremental releases are just more to test, and most companies will probably only bother to test/roll-out when a new feature set looks compelling.
This sort of release schedule works for Apple because they do not have the huge corporate installed base that MS does--most of their customers are individuals and small businesses.
Build a man a fire, he's warm for one night. Set him on fire, and he's warm for the rest of his life.
Criminy imaging the support nightmare this is going to trigger at any third party software developer, not to mention hardware compatability, testing, you name it.
I can see why MS wants to churn their user base to increase profits, but all this is going to do is piss people off.
Not only that, but software quality will go down - with SP2 Windows XP is just starting to become good. Now with flavor du jour the OS will never become old enough to be stable.
You already missed out. It was called Windows NT 3.51. Nothing made by Microsoft has been as solid since (though NT 4 was pretty close.)
The new versions of the company's key...
So where might I find this key?
Not every argument requires reduction to absurdity.
Quoth the article: "Executives have talked of taking a more "modular" approach to Microsoft's biggest products, breaking them down into smaller elements that can be worked on independently."
So does that mean IE will become a module again?
And the standard release will be the reduced edition?
Here it is, it fixes a line feed issue with some printers:
0D 0A
Go for it!
AT&ROFLMAO
So now you can pay $200 a year for Windows XP with a new, flashier skin.
Now, if you said all commercially successful platforms, or all platforms anyone might like to use, I'd have to agree.
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Really?
I was itching for windows 2000 to come out. It finally allowed an NT based system to have all the necessary features, like USB, that Windows 98 and ME had. It finally allowed the company to drop development of those products and provide a stable, standard base for all Operating systems.
What does lon^h^h^h vista have that I notice as missing that will change the OS landscape?
Yeah, I'm looking forward Windows February.
Some settling may occur during posting.
Also, obviously I wasn't talking about Harvard Architecture... The "all" I was referring to was a general "all" not an absolute. Yeah, that's it. =)
From TFA:
;-)
Executives have talked of taking a more "modular" approach to Microsoft's biggest products, breaking them down into smaller elements that can be worked on independently.
So they found out that linking Internet Exploder to each and any component is not a Good Idea.
I wonder why MS did this in the first place. Maybe to support their position in the antitrust ligitation a few years ago that IE cannot be removed without crippling the OS. So they made it that way in Windows 2000 and XP, after the same statement was proved wrong for Win9x by Shane Brooks.
Now, the intentional spaghetti code has served its purpose and can be removed
C - the footgun of programming languages
I can see the poor luser now...
Browsing the Interweb (AOL) on his new upgraded IE and a sound pops up...
"You've got..."
GONK!
Message box text:
"AOL-IE Optimized 14.0 has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down. If the problem persists, please contact the hardware manufacturer."
Um, it works for me. In fact, I really like this setup.
Because Linux screams on a fast, cheeper AMD because of it.
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"Those delays are set to end late next year "
Microsoft has just announced that next year's planned end to the delays has been delayed...
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It cracked me up... but alas, no mod points...
if i'm a grammar nazi, you're an illiteracy nazi.
Why charge people $199 every 4 years, when you can charge them $199 every 12 months ?