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Episode III Deleted Scenes Leaked Online

Master_of_Tumbleweeds writes "Like the previous Prequels' arrivals on DVD, Revenge of the Sith will have several deleted scenes included when it's released next month. We now have a sneak peak (thanks to various online spies like the infamous Darth Psychotic) at a couple of these sequences, one that depicts General Grievous actually dispatching a Jedi Knight (something we didn't even see in the theatrical release) and Yoda's arrival at the swamp planet of Dagobah. Episode III comes out on DVD November 1st"

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  1. Takes Balls by AvitarX · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Takes some balls to do this right after 6 people get arrested for leaking the movie.

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    1. Re:Takes Balls by rovingeyes · · Score: 4, Insightful

      or a lack of common sense...Either way those scenes are nice ;)

    2. Re:Takes Balls by ZachPruckowski · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It really does. But really, it sends a message that even if the MPAA or whoever takes out a few pirates, there are more ready to take their places. really, this is natural selection. The less-bright ones get caught, and the smarter ones take over. Really, the problem for the MPAA is that the pirates can learn faster and be more dynamic.

    3. Re:Takes Balls by Radres · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ha! We all know that ninjas are better and smarter than pirates. The average ninja has an IQ 50 points higher than the average pirate, plus they can flip out and kill people! They cut off people's heads all the time without even thinking about it. Therefore, ninjas are way better than pirates. QED.

    4. Re:Takes Balls by Cerdic · · Score: 2, Funny

      No no, it takes space balls. They will get away with it if the Schwartz is strong in them.

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    5. Re:Takes Balls by Dirtside · · Score: 4, Funny

      Pirates will always defeat ninjas, and here's why:

      1. Pirates drink rum. Ninjas are loser teetotalers. Drunk = awesome.
      2. Pirates swear constantly. Ninjas are silent. Silent = boring.
      3. Ninjas will never have their own holiday. What would it be, International Move Like a Ninja Day? *ghosts silently away*

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  2. Dagobah by parasonic · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, does Yoda actually build his own house out of mud, or does he hire a contractor to do it?

    1. Re:Dagobah by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Dunno. The screens just show the spaceship landing and Yoda in the doorway. I imagine the rest is still left to the imagination.

      FWIW, I think the whole "exile" thing was one of the worst handled parts of Episode III. Yoda failed to dispatch the Emporor. So what? Suddenly, he MUST go into exile? No one is going to question the decision? No one thinks that they should regroup and attack the Emporor in force?

      I can understand the idea behind the exile, but the execution needed a lot of work.

    2. Re:Dagobah by Prospero's+Grue · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I can understand the idea behind the exile, but the execution needed a lot of work.

      But then, the same can pretty much be said of most of the recent trilogy.

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    3. Re:Dagobah by AceCaseOR · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It made sense to me. Anakin knows Obi-Wan is alive. Palpatine couldn't find Yoda's body, so assuming he was dead would be an unwise idea. So, it would be a very good idea for Yoda and Obi-wan to lay low for a while. A long while. I didn't particularly need expository dialogue to figure that out.

      Frankly, the big studios tend to under-estimate the intelligence of the audience sometimes. For instance, the scenes of the T1000 searching John Connor's room by touch being cut at the studio's request from "Terminator 2: Judgement Day".

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    4. Re:Dagobah by sholden · · Score: 3, Funny

      Frankly, the big studios tend to under-estimate the intelligence of the audience sometimes.

      I don't think that's possible.

    5. Re:Dagobah by Jambon · · Score: 5, Funny
      So, does Yoda actually build his own house out of mud, or does he hire a contractor to do it?

      Hire contractors I did not! For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Luminous my abode is, not this crude matter you speak of.

    6. Re:Dagobah by undercanopy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      the t1000 exploded on that scene because it was hit with ther grnade launcher, not a shutgun blast.

      As for why shoot and shatter the frozen T1000, 3 reasons:

      1) it looked frikkin cool
      2) gave them an excuse to play with a lot of mercury/molten solder.
      3) gave them a chance to show us just how resilient the thing is

      on #3, i had wondered, throughout the movie, if there was indeed some central unit somewhere in there that controlled the rest of the thing. That scene solved that puzzle -- no. Perhaps the t800 didn't realize how resilient it was either?

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    7. Re:Dagobah by Eccles · · Score: 3, Interesting

      No one thinks that they should regroup and attack the Emporor in force?

      Who's "they?" Obi-Wan and Yoda? Everyone else seems to love the Emperor. As for two Jedi attacking a Sith lord, Jedi just get in each other's way. Qui-Gonn & Obi take on Darth Maul, Qui-Gonn dies. Obi-Wan and Annakin vs. Dooku? Obi gets owned early. Mace Windu, Kit Fisto, and two other Jedi Council vs. Palpa? Everyone but Windu is toasted quickly. If Yoda can't take Palpatine by himself, adding more Jedi will just make it worse.

      (In a strange way, there's even an explanation for this. Jedi apparently have a bit of future sense, allowing them to choose the best course of action in the next instant. Throw in more Jedi, and the future is more vague because the other Jedi are also sensing it and changing their actions in reaction to the initial perception.)

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    8. Re:Dagobah by sasdrtx · · Score: 3, Funny

      Whatever. My old id was (42), but I forgot my password.

      ZB

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    9. Re:Dagobah by phxbadash · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't think dialogue in general is George Lucases strong suit.

  3. To this I say so what. by Kenja · · Score: 2, Funny

    The odds of these "missing" scenes making a bad movie good are slim to not. I have enough beer coasters and dont need to pay 50$ for another.

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    1. Re:To this I say so what. by Jamu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm guessing one of the missing scenes doesn't have Jar Jar Binks being Force-choked by Death Vader then.

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  4. Re:/.'d already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    can someone leak a fix to the slashdot problem ?

  5. AICN has several pictures. by fireduck · · Score: 5, Informative

    Aint it cool news had this story yesterday or the day before. They've got several pictures here.

    1. Re:AICN has several pictures. by rob_squared · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I sometimes wonder if they don't purposefully create scenes with the intent of only putting them into a DVD release to entice people to buy them.

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    2. Re:AICN has several pictures. by trezor · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nooooooooo!

      You think?

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    3. Re:AICN has several pictures. by Ropati · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm sure the scenes are intentionally shot and shelved for future product enhancements, but I still have my doubts about this man on the moon thing.

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  6. Meh.... by CharAznable · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sure, EpIII ended the series with a modicum of dignity that was absent from I and II, but with Serenity coming out tonight, I'm disinclined to get excited about Star Wars anymore. Joss Whedon is my master now.

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    1. Re:Meh.... by sgtrock · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Don't forget "Outland" starring Sean Connery. A sci-fi remake of the classic 1952 western "High Noon" starring Gary Cooper. Released in 1981.

      Or "Battle Beyond the Stars" starring Richard Thomas, John Sayle, George Peppard, and others. That came out in 1980.

      While we're at it, let's not forget silly pirate movie remakes like "The Ice Pirates" (1984) starring Robert Urich and Mary Crosby. ;)

      Cowboy Bebop is a latecomer! :)

    2. Re:Meh.... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It gets a LOT better after that. If you haven't seen episodes like "Our Mrs. Reynolds" (Best ever!), "Out of Gas", or the original pilot, you have no idea what this show is about. "The Train Job" was a real hackjob, having to be written and filmed at the last minute because Fox thought that the pilot didn't have enough action. (Shades of Star Trek?) The only redeeming feature of this episode was when Reynolds kicked the guy into the engine.

      The second episode "Bushwhacked", was probably also done as a hackjob. The original pilot had them outrunning Reavers, so this episode was obvious created or reworked to explain who the Reavers were.

      One more episode, and I think you would have fallen in love with the series. :-)

    3. Re:Meh.... by Pope · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Did it ever occur to you that it might get better as it went along? It's an incredibly rare TV show that gets everything perfect in the first few episodes or even the first season, especially in a genre setting where there's a lot of pressure to not be TOO out there and different as you're trying to build an audience.

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    4. Re:Meh.... by LithiumX · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've got a fever... and the only perscription... is more cowbell!

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  7. Oh Dear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The finished thing was bad enough, why would I want to see what they left out?

  8. Dispatched Jedi Knight? by GecKo213 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I saw many Jedi Knights dispatched as Episode II ended. It would have been fun to watch the robot trash on a Jedi though.

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    1. Re:Dispatched Jedi Knight? by Ben+Newman · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's a real shape that that Clone Wars wasn't more widely available before Episode 3 came out, as I think it's required viewing to really get the full enjoyment out of the movie. All of Grevious's character development was in it, and he comes off as a real bad ass. The foreshodowing of Anni's fall was also very nicely done. Hell, I think it's better then all 3 of the movies. The animation style kept the action very tightly focused, and the fights felt a lot more personal because of it. None of the wall of digital effects slamming into you to distract you that Lucas seems so fond of.

  9. Obligatory SW joke... by William_Lee · · Score: 4, Funny

    Those aren't the scenes you're looking for...

    1. Re:Obligatory SW joke... by GecKo213 · · Score: 2, Funny

      What are you looking for? Ahhh, you want the scenes where Luke and Leah are "conceived"?

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    2. Re:Obligatory SW joke... by dr_dank · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd rather see the scene where a young Ensign Akbar struggles to succinctly describe a confining or undesirable circumstance from which escape or relief is difficult.

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  10. Milking Star Wars by gr8_phk · · Score: 3, Funny
    "Episode III comes out on DVD November 1st"

    And then look for:
    Episode 1-3 boxed set.
    The complete collection on DVD (1-6)
    Episode 4 on HD-DVD
    Episode 4-6 on HD-DVD
    Episode 1-3 on HD-DVD
    The boxed full set 1-6 on HD-DVD

    Way to milk it George!!!

    1. Re:Milking Star Wars by The+Lynxpro · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Episode 4 on HD-DVD Episode 4-6 on HD-DVD Episode 1-3 on HD-DVD
      The boxed full set 1-6 on HD-DVD Way to milk it George!!!"

      Except 20th Century Fox Home Video is committed to Blu-Ray and thus your prediction is incorrect. Furthermore, all the studios release multiple versions of films to "double dip". Its not a George Lucas exclusive. And unlike most of Hollywood, George reinvests his monies into advancing the whole industry with pioneering technology. He did it with ILM, THX, Pixar, and now digitally projected cinema. So again, your criticism - in a weak attempt at humor - is a distortion. Grow up and get out of your mom's basement.

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    2. Re:Milking Star Wars by clontzman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Number of versions of Star Wars released on DVD: 1.

      Number of versions of Evil Dead 2 released on DVD: 4? 5? 6? Another new one just came out with yet another screaming rubber cover.

      Ratio of "George Lucas milks it" to "Sam Raimi milks it" posts on /.: 3,720 to 1

  11. Not even?! by 75th+Trombone · · Score: 3, Funny

    Quoth the article:

    one that depicts General Grievous actually dispatching a Jedi Knight (something we didn't even see in the theatrical release)

    Wow, something in a deleted scene NOT EVEN BEING in the theatrical release? Shock! Amaze! Mystify!

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  12. This isn't your father's trilogy.. by Gopal.V · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Prophetic this - Not Your Father's Trilogy.

    Also does anyone remember the South Park spoof of it where they show the first episode with defender robots walking around..

    Our CEO gave us free tickets, which is the reason why I even watched Episode 3 in a theater - the journal. I didn't like the movie when I saw it on screen, it's very unlikely that these new additions will make it any more palatable.

    Now if only he'd give us free tickets for some good movie ... :)

  13. "We now have a sneak peak" by nekoniku · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is that a PEAK in your trousers or are you just happy to get a PEEK at the deleted scenes?

    Sigh.

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  14. How appropriate for some people... by compwizrd · · Score: 4, Funny

    Firefox has "Slashdot | Episode III Deleted ..." as the tab title.

    1. Re:How appropriate for some people... by CeramicNuts · · Score: 3, Funny

      Very appropriate tab title, unlike "Anandtech: your source for hardware anal..."

  15. "Deleted Scenes" Intentionally Filmed? by Cerdic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I recall reading a few years back that movie makers were making extra scenes just for the sake of calling them deleted scenes and selling special editions. Considering that Lucas has the Midas touch, I would suspect that some of these weren't cut solely to shrink the film size.

    It's underhanded, but its good news for fans - deleted scenes are deleted for a reason, usually that they suck. In this case, they will probably be better than that.

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  16. Mirror by Manip · · Score: 2, Informative
  17. Re:Opinion: by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "The acting was so bad in the third I was embarrassed to even be watching it"

    I don't think the acting was any better in Episodes 4-6.

    The difference was that we were not yet jaded by the setting and story.

    What Lucas seemingly failed to realize is that since Return of the Jedi, others have done similar sci-fi movies and stories better. Lucas failed to leap past these other movies, and instead made movies only marginally better than Ep 4-6. Since we expect better movies, in general, we were majorly disappointed.

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  18. Yoda's arrival by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    and Yoda's arrival at the swamp planet of Dagobah

    "Fire my real estate agent, I will"

  19. Another site with the images by mustangdavis · · Score: 4, Informative
  20. Did you notice this? by lawpoop · · Score: 5, Funny

    There is a SCENE with YODA LANDING ON DEGOBAH -- in case you are still in shock, let me repeat, YODA LANDS ON DEGOBAH. We actually get to see his spaceship LAND ON DEGOBAH. This is like the final strand in an enormous tapestry. I can't believe this whole thing has come to fruition. In case there was any doubt, we find out how it comes to pass that Yoda lives on Degobah -- he LANDS IN A SPACESHIP. It's like we finally get the ancient family history of our collective psyche. When we were 5 years old and wondering how that little green imp came to live in that swamp, and now we finally SEE THE SHIP LAND.

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    1. Re:Did you notice this? by nine-times · · Score: 2, Funny

      So, you're saying he doesn't walk? Eh, I don't buy it. It seems a little... far fetched. Maybe lucas will correct it in the super-ultra-special edition, wherein we find that Yoda learned to teleport by talking to dead Jedis, which is how the Jedi's bodies "disappear" when they "die". Eventually, Yoda will be having a lightsaber fight in the background of every scene, which was what Lucas really envisioned in the first place.

  21. old n' busted : pirates -- ninjas are future-proof by Thud457 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, but what is the impact of global warming upon the global ninja population?

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  22. Funny? you mean insightful... by zippthorne · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm convinced that the reason Lucas hasn't released the original trilogy is because that's the one that everyone really wants: he can get us to buy all the touched up versions for a while then release the original unre-edited version and everyone will buy all of the episodes all over again. If he goes the other way there'd be less rebuying: "well I've already got a version, why do I need this new version where greedo couldn't hit a barn door with his pistol touching the door."

    since that version is not available on DVD, people will have to "make do" with the versions that are. I don't think he came up with this plan until after the first re-release (which was before the laserdisk contract ran out IIRC)

    Of course, he might not ever release the originals and really milk it with improved versions. Let me be the ten-thousanth to say, "I'm not buying another episode until the originals are released on DVD" and probably not really mean it.

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  23. Re:General Grievous? by enrico_suave · · Score: 3, Informative

    "OK, I didnt see the Clone Wars cartoon, so maybe it's answered there, but can anyone tell me why Grievous was coughing the whole time?"

    Sam Jackson... I mean.. Mace Windu force crushed his "ribs"/lungs during Grievous's escape with kidnapping palpy.

    e.

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  24. Spoiler! by NeuroManson · · Score: 2, Funny

    At least 2 hours of deleted footage is of the Jedi Counsel turning Jar Jar into Gungan sashimi.

    Yes, someone had to say it.

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  25. well, the jedi death was half-expected... by acroyear · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...to anybody who saw Clone Wars season 2 on cartoon network. She was left captured and you know they were coming to get her, but it ended there.

    other scenes were leaked to anybody who either read the novelization or the comic adaptation, just like with every SW film up 'til now. (i.e., in Empire, the sequence where C-3PO removed the "beware" sticker on the door so the troops could get pummled by wampas; in SW where luke and biggs are watching the battle from the planet surface; there's more...).

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  26. Why the Yoda/Dagobah Scene May Have Been Deleted by popo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    True geeks know (as later related by Timothy Zahn) that Yoda actually arrived on Dagobah
    in pursuit of a dark jedi clone -- whom he fought, and wasted underneath a certain large
    tree. That tree retained powerful "echoes of evil" for years afterwards,
    and was later used by Yoda to test the resolve of his young padawan "Luke" (in
    Episode V).

    My theory? This apparent contradiction in plotlines may have been why Lucas
    cut the scene of Yoda peacefully arriving on Dagobah.

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  27. Re:Why the Yoda/Dagobah Scene May Have Been Delete by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Actually, I seem to recall from the Thrawn Trilogy that Yoda already lived on Dagobah when the Dark Jedi showed up. So, it could be worked in that, to help consolidate his rule in the early years, Palpatine cloned off some Jedi, possibly even using materials collected by clone troopers during the mass purges shown in EP 3.

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  28. More StarWars, yeech... by crovira · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Okay, I will admit my respect for the actors in the original series, (IV to VI) has increased enormously since I to III came out.

    They made a silk purse out of a sow's ear (or Lucas' tin ear for dialog.) I also never thought much for his choice of secondary actors. (Thank [name of deity] Jar Jar Binks was never played by a real human actor. That is definitely NOT something I'd want to put on my resume.)

    Lucas made some high tech, high priced kid's movies. But I seriously doubt they actually have any 'legs' to go beyond the existing base. They will never be more than a foot note in film history and most of the film students will study THX rather that the Star Wars swill. Now business students are another thing...

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  29. Re:General Grievous? by orson_of_fort_worth · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to the latest issue of Star Wars Insider, which I...uh...borrowed from my little brother, Lucas came up with the idea of Grievous coughing before the Clone Wars cartoon. He wanted to show that there was still some non-robotic aspect to Grievous and that the technology used to keep him alive was less than perfect. (Foreshadowing of Vader's outfit.) They added the Mace Windu incident to Clone Wars as a way of explaining the cough.

  30. Image mirror.. by Egorn · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here is AICN's mirror via DT.

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  31. No shit. by MsGeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Clone Wars" was easily the best element of all the Prequel releases. I find it interesting that "Animatrix" kicked ass over the two Matrix sequels, "Clone Wars" outclassed the Prequels, and "Dark Fury," a "Chronicles of Riddick" prequel directed by "Aeon Flux" creator Peter Chung, was infinitely better than either "Chronicles" or the original movie "Pitch Black."

    What should "The Industry" take from this? Perhaps a great deal of talent can be found in the animation community, and perhaps the medium itself should be reconsidered as fare for adults as well as children. Certainly animation is now about as expensive as live action and possibly less expensive when you consider the cost of elaborate "event" movies that are half CGI anyway.

    However, this would mean that "The Industry" should also cast off another assumption: that people will not sit and watch drawn traditional animation anymore. "Clone Wars" was not only drawn animation, it was beautifully stylized and designed drawn animation. "Animatrix" had CGI segments, true, but some of the most striking shorts in the "Animatrix" collection were 2D, like "Kid's Story" and "Detective Story" by Watanabe Shinichiro, and "Beyond" by Morimoto Koji. "Dark Fury" was 2D with 3D elements.

    Will "The Industry" ever "get it" about animation? I don't know. It doesn't look so good. "Corpse Bride" was very poorly promoted, and looks like it won't make back its investment. The coming "Wallace and Gromit" movie has recognizable characters going for it, but its essential Britishness might relegate it to a niche audience in the US. And "Chicken Little?" What I saw of it looked good, but Pixar needn't sweat Disney taking its crown as the domestic leader in CGI. The stuff I have heard of several rewrites and story changes makes me think that Disney doesn't "get" the reason why Pixar's movies are so good: they are story-driven, not merchandising-driven.

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  32. Re:old n' busted : pirates -- ninjas are future-pr by cloudmaster · · Score: 3, Funny

    Their suits had to be made slightly more breathable.

  33. Bai Ling anyone... There are more scenes missing by technoextreme · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What happened to her??? She was supposed to be in the movie until she possed in playboy.

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  34. Re:Opinion: by localman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't think the acting was any better in Episodes 4-6. The difference was that we were not yet jaded by the setting and story.

    No no... I hear this come up as the explanation over and over, but I just don't buy it.

    You should watch the casting auditions for Ep IV (there's a bittorrent around somewhere). I'll just mention one thing that stood out to me: Harrison Ford.

    In the auditions they're using an early version of the script that includes the line from Luke to Han "They'll never get any information out of her! She's a member of the royal family... she knows the art of 'mind control'". The line is terribly stupid, and it sounds stupid when every actor trying out for Luke says it. And every actor trying out for Han sounds stilted afterwards as they reply.

    But Harrison Ford does something great: before he says his next line he mutters "mind control" under his breath and rolls his eyes. It totally sells the scene. Suddenly, instead of a stupid script that jolts the viewer out the moment, Ford turns it into "naive Luke" and "streetwise Han", and the line actually works. And it wasn't even his line! He fixed the script with a little flourish in his response!

    That is the difference a good actor can make.

    If you watch the rest of the audition reel it's pretty apparent that Carrie Fisher and Mark Hammill are much better than the rest too. The rest read like Portman & Christiansen.

    And no offense to them, they've both done great work elsewhere. But under George Lucas you have to have a certain type of skill.

    Cheers.