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Online Scammers Go Spear-Phishing

Ant wrote to mention an examination at C|NET looking into the increasingly more effective techniques employed by phishers. From the article: "More recently, however, a hybrid form of phishing, dubbed "spear-phishing," has emerged and raised alarms among the digital world's watchdogs. Spear-phishing is a distilled and potentially more potent version of phishing. That's because those behind the schemes bait their hooks for specific victims instead of casting a broad, ill-defined net across cyberspace hoping to catch throngs of unknown victims."

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  1. This is weird. by meringuoid · · Score: 4, Insightful
    According to records of the Israeli investigation, Wieseltier told authorities that she received a Trojan-infested e-mail message bearing the address of gur_r@zahav.net.il, which she believed came from a friend.

    But her friend's e-mail was actually gur-r@zahav.net.il. As Israeli investigators traced the origin of the bogus account they discovered that the person who had opened it lived in London and had charged the cost of the account to his American Express card.

    Are we to believe that these super-phishers don't know how to spoof a From: header?

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    1. Re:This is weird. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps the phisher did this so that a reply to the email wouldn't reveal the scam.

    2. Re:This is weird. by Zleeper · · Score: 1

      Except when it got bounced back by the email admin because the domain did not have that account recognized. You can't just put a user name in front of a domain and expect the admin to let it through. DUH!

  2. Its the viruses you don't know about... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...which you should worry about. Viruses which create havoc and draw attention to themselves should be less of a concern.

    If software has been created for a specific attack, then standard virus scanners will never pick up its signature.

    1. Re:Its the viruses you don't know about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      How on Earth do you worry about something you don't know about? Wouldn't this consume all of your time?

    2. Re:Its the viruses you don't know about... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Didn't you get the message?

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  3. bullshit article by eobanb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I particularly love this part:

    Jackont took his computer to the Israeli police last fall and was told to reformat it. But his problems persisted. So the police examined his computer more closely and discovered that a malicious program known as a Trojan horse lay hidden deep inside and had hijacked the machine from a remote location.

    So he reformatted his drive but the virus was still there? What?

    I'm sorry, but does it really take much effort to get the facts right? EVERYONE seems to get it wrong: CNN, MSNBC, the NY Times, CNET. Somehow, the writers chosen to pump out articles like this either don't really understand technology or just pick subjects of which they don't really know anything.

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    1. Re:bullshit article by Renraku · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Its entirely possible to reformat and still have a virus. What about MBR viruses and memory-resident ones?

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    2. Re:bullshit article by Sir+Runcible+Spoon · · Score: 4, Informative

      There is more than one way to format a disk. If you do it with FDISK and don't provide the /MBR option it does not recreate the master boot record. If your virus is hiding there it will survive.

    3. Re:bullshit article by Faluzeer · · Score: 1

      True enough, though I suspect it is just as likely that the person did format it, then reloaded the OS from the original media and either did not patch or got infected whilst online and trying to patch...

    4. Re:bullshit article by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 5, Interesting
      EVERYONE seems to get it wrong: CNN, MSNBC, the NY Times, CNET. Somehow, the writers chosen to pump out articles like this either don't really understand technology or just pick subjects of which they don't really know anything.
      And unfortunately, it's not all that unusual. After reading the article, I'm not so sure that "phishing" played a part at all, and I'm disappointed that C|Net is playing the media-hype-buzzword game beyond what could reasonably be expected. I figure that [MS]NBC, CNN, and the other networks will get this sort of thing wrong, but C|Net is fairly reputable when it comes to tech reporting.

      FTA,
      Last spring, staff, faculty and students at the University of Kentucky opened e-mail messages purporting to be from the university's credit union and requesting confidential information to access their accounts (something no financial institution in the country ever seeks via e-mail).
      That isn't "spear phishing," and sure as hell doesn't warrant the coining of a new term. It might be considered normal "phishing," if only the author had a clue. Just because a "phish" is targeted at a particular group doesn't make it any more special than the everyday eBay "phish" spammed at random to ten million email addresses. This whole "spear phishing" thing is a contrived buzzword like "spim" (or "Cyber Monday"). Spam over IM is still spam, it doesn't need a new term. Phishing for particular targets is still phishing - I even hate that term, really - and doesn't need a new cyberbuzzword.

      Free clue-by-four: the term "phishing" gained popularity on AOL some 6 or 8 years ago, and described the practice of attempting to solicit passwords from unsuspecting users. No matter how simplistic or elaborate the scheme, and regardless of whether normal users or employees were targeted in a blanket or with a direct ploy, it was always "phishing" (or ><> 'ing). Back then, the media hadn't yet caught on to the idea. Now that they've caught up, they want to call anything and everything "phishing."

      From TFA,
      About two weeks ago, a more traditional phishing scam infected about 30,000 individual computers worldwide, according to CipherTrust, a computer security firm.
      Are you kidding me? How does a "phishing scam" "infect" computers? "Phishing" is asking for information; it's impossible for a "phish" to infect anything.

      I've really lost some respect for C|Net on this one.
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    5. Re:bullshit article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Israeli police does free tech support?

    6. Re:bullshit article by oolon · · Score: 1

      lso if his email was on a server so stored externally to his computer he might have redownloaded the virus. However (from reading the article) the X was envolved so could have just got access to the machine and put it back on again or even just posted another infected email to the victim.

      Personally i thought it was rather sophisicated and could see how many people could fall for it. Particularly the reposting with payload, people who only check there email one a day or less could very easily fall victim to the second email trick.

      It is a shame the orginal poster forgets even though people do reformat their machines they oftain try to save there work from it first as it is unacceptable for most people to just start with a "blank" machine. It is Documents and emails that are preserved between formats and this is perfect place for and unknown trojans to hide.

      I do not think the article was bullshit, I however do think the orginal poster represents the normal tech arogance of

      A) Expecting users not to be able to carry out instructions or not to be able to get someone to do it for them!
      B) Assuming because something went wrong again it must be the users fault for not doing what they were told (See A)
      C) Assuming after they know what the problem is that they naturally would have been able to fix it and never to have suffered the problem in the first place because it was just due to stupidity.
      X) This was not fighting a computer anyway, it was fighting a person (the X) and anyone who has had one will know that is alot harder.

      James

    7. Re:bullshit article by ajs318 · · Score: 1

      Running lilo, as you do from within the installation chroot just before you boot into your new kernel, does overwrite the master boot record.

      GUI installers still do all this behind the scenes, they just hide it from you. I am guessing Windows must do something similar with its own bootstrap loader.

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    8. Re:bullshit article by KiloByte · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or, more likely, the person who did "reformat" it just reinstalled the OS without actually formatting anything. Most of people who work in tech support don't know the difference.

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    9. Re:bullshit article by oolon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No i does NOT! It infact installs it where the "boot" line in your lilo.conf tells it too. Yes alot of distro default to this behavior but they don't HAVE to. For example from my lilo.conf

      boot=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2

      Why don't I install it on my MBR? because when you install windows it wipes the MBR, creates a boot block on its partition and changes the active partion. So if I don't use the MBR all I have to do to get lilo back is to change my active partition back to partition 2, which is much less hassle then having to boot a rescue disk etc.

      James

    10. Re:bullshit article by geo_2677 · · Score: 1

      Poorly written indeed.
      What I think the author tried to mean was after the drive was formatted, Jackson installed his so called trusted softwares and found that the virus was again on it.
      The author needs to get his basic lessons in computers

    11. Re:bullshit article by Stiletto · · Score: 4, Insightful


      How about we just drop all the silly cyber-words and start calling it what it is: Fraud.

    12. Re:bullshit article by RollingThunder · · Score: 1

      Ah, but what kind of fraud is it? Phishing describes a very specific type, even if the media outlets are starting to make the two equivalent.

    13. Re:bullshit article by Woldry · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nah, let's get even less specific and just call it "crime." Or wait! How about maybe just "bad"? While we're at it, let's stop all this silly talk of Fords and Saturns and SUVs and just call 'em all "cars". And we can definitely do without all of the ridiculous kitchen words like "fry" and "roast" and "microwave" and "steam" and "simmer" and just call it what it is: Cooking.

      "All the silly cyber-words" are useful means of distinguishing nuances of meaning -- identifying specific methods of fraud, for instance. "Phishing" refers to a specific method of fraud, and as such adds precision and power to the language. The coining of the new term -- "spear phishing" -- makes it clear that this is a special type of the more general method of phishing, and even provides a pretty clear image to identify the particular type. Identifying this particular subtype also is the first step toward arming people against it -- which may require slightly different methods of self-defense than arming people against more general phishing, or mail fraud, or flimflam scams at the bank, or car-in-distress fraud, or white collar crime, or "blind" panhandlers who can see perfectly well, or any of the other myriad varieties of fraud that exist out there. Lumping them all together with a single word is sometimes useful, but "just dropping" all the language that draws useful distinctions between them is what is "silly".

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    14. Re:bullshit article by Pollardito · · Score: 2, Funny
      How about we just drop all the silly cyber-words and start calling it what it is: Fraud.
      i prefer the term "Unsmurfy"
    15. Re:bullshit article by samureiser · · Score: 2

      In the writer's defense, it only states that the Israeli police told him to reformat his drive and then problems persisted. It never explicitly stated that he actually did format his hard drive. As a tech support monkey, I've had many users simply listen to my advice/instructions and then ignore it.

      Of course, the writer was probably not technically knowledgable to pick up on this little omission or its significance.

    16. Re:bullshit article by Sax+Maniac · · Score: 1
      I realized a while back that every writer's wet dream is to coin a new term that becomes common use. Not merely to report a word in use by others, but the make a new one up and refer to it in the article in some offhand manner, as if it already exists and is common, but you ain't hep 'nuff to know that, and so we're gonna let you in on what the cool kids are saying now.

      Riiiight.

      Now when I read articles with new fake words I just laugh and make sure not to use it.

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    17. Re:bullshit article by StopSayingYouSir · · Score: 3, Funny
      Nah, let's get even less specific and just call it "crime." Or wait! How about maybe just "bad"? While we're at it, let's stop all this silly talk of Fords and Saturns and SUVs and just call 'em all "cars". And we can definitely do without all of the ridiculous kitchen words like "fry" and "roast" and "microwave" and "steam" and "simmer" and just call it what it is: Cooking.
      I just call everything "Marklar," to avoid confusion.
    18. Re:bullshit article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://bertc.com/sniglets.htm

      another popular thing to do is to redefine a word already in use, or mangle the meaning of the common use of the word. Consider how some conservatives changed the word liberal from something good to a derogatory term. Another example is how the word 'hacker' is used to really mean 'cracker'. The RIAA and MPAA often says 'stealing' instead of 'copying' which are completely different in meaning. Witness how microsoft is trying to change the meaning of open source to infer socialism. The thing about all this is, that with enough attention paid by the public, the words can be transformed into something altogether different and affect public opinion. Which was the original intent of the word alteration to begin with. Things like this can't be defended against unless specific meaning definitions are defined by law and adhered to. If that doesn't happen, then a counter campaign must be waged to keep the word meaning intact.

    19. Re:bullshit article by Matt+Perry · · Score: 1
      So he reformatted his drive but the virus was still there? What?
      He was told to reformat it. That doesn't mean that he did it. In my experience most users won't format and reinstall their systems (or have it done) because of the inconvenience.
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    20. Re:bullshit article by podperson · · Score: 1

      No ... phraud!

    21. Re:bullshit article by the_maddman · · Score: 1

      As anyone dual booting Windows and Linux knows, everytime you reinstall windows of the non-ancient type, it rewrites the MBR (blowing away your bootloader that lets you dual boot.) Yeah, I guess you could call that a "anti-virus" feature and not a "anti-competitor" one.

    22. Re:bullshit article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't be such a smartass! Imagine you read articles like this all the time:

      Today, investigators determined a new type of crime. Dubbed "Fording", this scam involves taking a large Ford motor vehicle and using it to "drive away" from a convenience store at high speed after taking property from the owner, often using a gun.

      Crime experts claim that so-called "autocrime", such as "Fording" and "Getting Chevy'd" are actually just variations of the centuries-old crime of robbery. They caution would-be store owners: "don't assume that just because a Honda pulls up, you're safe. Almost *any* car could be used, and not just American ones either."

      Shop owners are responding to the rise of autocrime by making patrons park some distance away from the store and use bicycles. "This will keep my store safe," claims one shop owner, who was Chevy'd twice last month.

      However, that shop owner might want to think twice: At least one recent incident reveals a new twist called "Footgrabbing", where the suspect will actually use no car at all.

      See how the nuance is UTTERLY POINTLESS? Did you fall for a scam? Okay. You fell for a scam. On the computer, with a paper chain letter, or by phone.

      It's the typical desire to constantly *rename* things rather than generalize and understand them.

      "Fraud" captures it pretty well, as do several others words and phrases. Not just "bad", which is too vague, and not "spear phishing" which is just plain stupid, and clearly created to make articles more entertaining. I can't wait to see what they'll come up with for fraud using mobile phones. Normal people will say "fraud on a mobile phone", the press might call it, who knows, "fly phishing". You can just see them patting each other on the back after coming up with yet another vacuous term that allows the snobs to correct others at parties "No Bob, I don't listen to 'heavy metal', I listen to DETROIT THRASH-CORE, get it straight."

    23. Re:bullshit article by amling · · Score: 1

      Disregarding the other posters' objections, there is still the matter of size: A boot block virus and a trojan are rather far apart in scale.

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    24. Re:bullshit article by elmurado · · Score: 1

      No we must call it phraud

    25. Re:bullshit article by Woldry · · Score: 1

      Okay, all smartass response is turned off.

      Your analogy doesn't hold up. The difference is not in what kind of equipment was used to commit the crime; if that were the case, we'd hear about "Delling" vs. "HPing". Also, if protecting oneself against a Ford required different measures than protecting oneself against a Chevy, then yes, by all means, those terms should be used. But defenses against the online scams and other forms of fraud, unlike getting run over by a car, do all require different tactics. Hence the different names.

      Also, "DETROIT THRASH-CORE" may be the only kind of "heavy metal" that Bob's friend enjoys. If you're shopping for music that Bob's friend would like, it would be thoughtless to buy just anything that's "heavy metal" because you think drawing distinctions among kinds of heavy metal is "silly" or snobbish.

      To put it another way -- I like citrus fruit a great deal. I love grapefruit and tangerines and kumquats and lemons and limes and key limes all about equally. I also like oranges -- but I am allergic to them. If you "call it what it is" and give me a citrus fruit (which happens to be an orange), then you will give me severe digestive discomfort.

      Calling it "fraud" in not a better way of helping anyone prepare against the specific type of fraud that is called "spear phishing." Absolutely, spear phishing is fraud. But not all fraud is spear phishing.

      The response to spear phishing requires precautions different from those against, say, a Ponzi scheme, or being sold a lemon at the car dealer's, or getting "slammed" by a long-distance provider, or stiffed by a customer if you're a server in a restaurant -- all of which are also types of fraud, with their own specialized terminology appropriate to the situation. There are some general guidelines you can follow to help avoid your vulnerability to any kind of fraud, but the general guidelines will only help you so far. To truly protect yourself, you need to prepare against the specific types you're likely to encounter. Sadly, nowadays "phishing" is one that most people who are at all wired are likely to encounter. It's possible that "spear phishing" (which requires a little more sophisticated response to guard against) may be another that we'll soon be more likely to encounter.

      I repeat -- lumping them all together under one term is sometimes useful. But it is also useful sometimes to refer to them by different names. Ignoring that usefulness is far more "silly" than the practice of inventing new terms when new methods surface.

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    26. Re:bullshit article by Woldry · · Score: 1

      Don't you mean you call marklar "Marklar", to avoid marklar? :-D

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  4. Format the disk by jurt1235 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Jackont took his computer to the Israeli police last fall and was told to reformat it. But his problems persisted.

    So either he did not format it, or after formatting it, he did not properly protect it and got infected again.

    Poor (usually Microsoft Windows) users who also have to be administrators. The key problem is just that current OSes are not for people without CS knowledge to use. They need appliances which are protected, on which they can not install more software and which are protected by a mixed contract of anti-virus anti-spyware and system update vendors.
    As long as users have to administrate their system, whatever system, these kind of problems will continu to exist.

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    1. Re:Format the disk by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1
      So either he did not format it, or after formatting it, he did not properly protect it and got infected again.

      Another possible scenario: After he had formatted the disk, he restored a backup which already contained the infection.
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    2. Re:Format the disk by jurt1235 · · Score: 1

      Darn it, I missed that one. Probably because of my own bad habit of making little backups.....

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    3. Re:Format the disk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      But... but... but what if the spear-phishing email stored itself in the video memory, then it restored itself upon the reinstallation of the operating system!

    4. Re:Format the disk by glsunder · · Score: 1

      This applies to just more than simple users. If it was tricky enough, it could catch quite a few admins too.

      FTA: the Trojan horses that penetrated their computers came packaged inside a compact disc or an e-mail message that appeared to be from an institution or a person that the victims thought they knew very well.

      Let's say that you have a computer at your company that has a certain program on it, and a scammer knows that. With some research, and some effort, they could send you an "update" CD in the mail that contained a trojan and also looked completely legit. And,

      For example, I've seen some smaller POS (point of sale -- used for taking credit cards) programs that send updates on CD via snail mail. Considering that many CC programs use the internet or a modem to talk to the bank, it wouldnt be that far fetched that someone would do it either, and it could easily phone home. Most likely, if someone formatted the system for some reason, they would probably install the "update" as well.

    5. Re:Format the disk by jurt1235 · · Score: 1

      I used to work at a bank. We digitally signed the programs to prevent tampering with the data and the programs. It helps.

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  5. Not news by ajs318 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    People run an operating system known to be vulnerable to Trojan Horse infections. They haven't had the source code independently audited and verified. They believe the headers in e-mail messages. And then they get infected by a Trojan horse.

    The only surprise is it's taken this long for it to get noticed.

    As long as people have had weaknesses, there have been other people out there seeking to exploit those weaknesses. That's just human nature; and if you fail to account for it, you might just as well have failed to account for gravity. The moment you put someone in front of a computer, they panic and lose all semblance of common sense. That also is human nature.

    I believe Microsoft are complicit in all this, because it was Microsoft's deliberate design decision that the users of those computers did not have to give consent for a process to run as root. But whoever picked Microsoft must share some of the blame, since they basically decided that the integrity of their computer systems was less important than a pretty user interface.

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    1. Re:Not news by jrockway · · Score: 1

      > Anyone who uses ^ when they mean ** is obviously a BASIC programmer.

      Or a TeX user.

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    2. Re:Not news by ajs318 · · Score: 1

      In TeX, the up-arrow indicates a superscript {as in ax^2+bx+c}; I'll give you half a point on that one. However, in languages which support bitwise operations {some people do still use them}, 7 ^ 2 means 5 and not 49.

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    3. Re:Not news by antifoidulus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hate to burst your bubble here, but it's incredibly EASY to create a trojan horse in Linux. All you have to do is convince the user to run the program, and if they do that, no matter what the OS, the program the user runs has all the same privlidges as the user. Meaning if I want to covertly send all the user's files to an offsite location, I can because the user has read access to all those files. Sure I can't delete the whole hard drive, but seriously, what is the point in doing that? Even if you do delete the whole drive, outside of the home directories, who cares? Seriously, the kernel files are easily replaceable, the home directory files much less so....In conclusion, that was a pointless, completely wrong post by an open source fanboy, ie something that is incredibly common here...

      *Note:I did not say that open source OSs do not have any security advantages, they usually do. However, the parent decided to mention trojan horses which are the easiest of all malware to write and probably the hardest to protect against.

    4. Re:Not news by ajs318 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You're forgetting the rather obvious.

      If somebody is bothered enough to be running GNU/Linux or a BSD variant, they probably are already smarter than to go running unknown programs without at least checking what they do. Of course, there are plenty of Windows users who know that already. But they aren't the ones you hear about.

      Windows has made it possible for computer users to be ignorant and proud of it, and ignorant people have created all manner of problems for them and the rest of us. A computer is not a single-purpose appliance like a washing machine or a hoover. It is a highly general-purpose device; and that very generality of purpose is a double-edged sword which cuts both ways.

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    5. Re:Not news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If you can see this, it means that the installation of the Apache web server software on this system was successful. You may now add content to this directory and replace this page.

      Seeing this instead of the website you expected?

      This page is here because the site administrator has changed the configuration of this web server. Please contact the person responsible for maintaining this server with questions. The Apache Software Foundation, which wrote the web server software this site administrator is using, has nothing to do with maintaining this site and cannot help resolve configuration issues.

      The Apache documentation has been included with this distribution.

      You are free to use the image below on an Apache-powered web server. Thanks for using Apache!

    6. Re:Not news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      195.137.81.174

    7. Re:Not news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's like magic!

    8. Re:Not news by Woldry · · Score: 1

      that very generality of purpose is a double-edged sword which cuts both ways.

      As opposed to a double-edged sword that cuts only one way?

      :-)

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    9. Re:Not news by Technician · · Score: 4, Insightful

      All you have to do is convince the user to run the program, and if they do that, no matter what the OS, the program the user runs has all the same privlidges as the user.

      This is a little harder to do. In windows all you have to do is convince the user to look at these pictures of my naked wife wife.gif.pif (the .pif does not show)

      In linux you have to convince the user to save the attachment, change it's attributes to include execute and explain why the file must be executed instead of viewed.

      Convincing the user is much harder in Linux. Microsoft has blurred the line between executing a program and viewing a file. Linux still makes it harder to trick a user into running a program.

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    10. Re:Not news by Greyfox · · Score: 1
      Yeah, back in the late 80's, my university's mainframe would always go down around Christmas because none of the freshmen knew not to run that christmas card program that showed up in their email inboxes. The program would then merrily redistribute itself to everyone in their mailboxes, and most of those people would run it too. Fun stuff!

      You could probably mitigate the danger by running your browser and mail client chrooted or as another user. Or both. And possibly have them drop any unecessary regular-user privs. Currently that'd all have to be set up manually, so no end user will do it, but I could see some security minded distribution adding that sort of capability in the future.

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    11. Re:Not news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Here's you: We GNU/Linux & BSD types are soooo much smarter... Here's the Linux-using moderator who just had his ego stroked: *Insightful*.

      The obvious point that you're forgetting is that even to the extent that what you say is true, in this case it is the *user* that deserves the credit (or the blame), not the OS.

    12. Re:Not news by forkazoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Certainly, it is quite easy to nuke a home directory, but that doesn't mean there aren't any benefits. The first that occurs to me is that a normal user can't install a service that runs at boot automatically. They also don't have permission to do things like open certain ports.

      So, on Windows, as long as the average user is running your code, you can very easily have an FTP server running at boot which the user can't kill. It can run silently for a very long time, making available keylogs or whatever else.

      On Linux/BSD/OS-X, the danger is slightly reduced. Sure, you can monitor a single user's access, and you can open up a port > 1024. You can certainly nuke the home directory, which would be horribly bad news for a lot of users. But, it is always possible to log in as another user and kill whatever it is. When you are running as another user, you will be fairly confident that you can at least see any problems that might present themselves. With windows, any app can make itself invisible to normal means of inspection (See Sony rootkit!).

      There are some *nix fanboys who overstate the protections, certainly. But, "not much real extra security" is a hell of a lot better than "what in god's name were those chimp brained fucktards thinking?"

    13. Re:Not news by Canonical+AC · · Score: 1
      They haven't had the source code independently audited and verified.


      Ah yes, because you've had your OS independently audited and verified? Who was it audited by? How do you know you can trust them?

      I'm a big a Linux fan as anyone, but I don't suffer under the delusion that it has been audited or verifed by anyone.
      --
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  6. Is this really phishing? by Zog+The+Undeniable · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Looks like good old-fashioned social engineering to me, probably kicking off with some even more old-fashioned dumpster-diving to get the names and addresses of the target's friends and acquaintances.

    --
    When I am king, you will be first against the wall.
    1. Re:Is this really phishing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Not nearly that hard.

      The phisher was the victim's ex-son-in-law. No dumpster-diving required. It's even conceivable the phisher had physical access to the victim's computer. At that point, all bets are off.

  7. duh !!!! by earthstar · · Score: 1

    Spear-phishing, say security specialists, is much harder to detect than phishing. Bogus e-mail messages and Web sites not only look like near perfect replicas of communiqués from e-commerce companies like eBay or its PayPal service, banks or even a victim's employer, but are also targeted at people known to have an established relationship with the sender being mimicked.
    Its just phishing.Yea ,it carries names of people whom you know.but they have always been around!What is so new here?

    1. Re:duh !!!! by ajs318 · · Score: 1

      What is new about it is that the security companies have a new product to hawk. Windows already requires firewall, anti-virus and anti-spam software to be usable; anti-phishing software is a new market. There are other operating systems, with privilege separation designed in from the ground up, which only run necessary services; won't execute arbitrary code without a user's say-so and definitely not in privileged mode; and allow for mail filtering at several levels, privileged and non-privileged. With some of them, you can even conduct your own independent audit of the source code {or pay somebody you really trust to do it for you} so you need not take anyone's word for it how secure your system is or is not.

      However, people don't actually want their computer systems to be secure. Security is boring and having a secure system is evidence that you have been thinking about things. They just want the latest versions of Windows and Office and hacks to play pirated games, and if this computer breaks they'll just throw it away and buy another one. Thinking about things like security, stability and integrity is evidence that you have goals beyond immediate gratification and are therefore a bore who sits in a rocking chair wearing a knitted cardigan.

      --
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    2. Re:duh !!!! by BenjyD · · Score: 1

      I find it incredible that people fall for these things. I've heard otherwise perfectly sensible people saying "the online scammers are so clever, the email looked exactly like the real thing". Of course it does, it's called copy-and-paste, something a ten-year old could do.

    3. Re:duh !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wear a knitted cardigan you insensitive clod!

  8. the path! Re:This is weird. by leuk_he · · Score: 5, Interesting

    als form the article:

    Some computer security specialists suggest at least one basic approach that might allow e-mail recipients to learn right away that a communique appearing to come from a company like Amazon.com actually originated somewhere in the Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, Russia or any of the other places that law enforcement officials say are hot spots for phishing scams. "It strikes me that this is just a failure of most e-mail systems to reveal the history of an e-mail," said Whitfield Diffie, a pioneer in computer cryptography who is the chief security officer of Sun Microsystems. "You could post a warning flag indicating that the 'from' address doesn't seem consistent with the path history."

    I have yet too see an applcation that does (only) this. And "8 out of 10 collegues here (in the IT) don't have a clue what a "path" in a e-mail is.

    Anyway the gist of the article was in the start that some phisher used a fake-emial address where the from was NOT faked, but contained a small alteration that does not show at first. Since no anti-spam/anti-phissher can protect against that ou leave the people who run the most up to date anti-spam will beleive the mail is trusted. Even the journalist has problems to explain that a technical solution is not the final solution.

    by the way: you americans do not have to worry so much since you seem to care so much for privacy.

    1. Re:the path! Re:This is weird. by darkmeridian · · Score: 1

      I am not sure what GMail is doing exactly, but it does give a warning at times that a particular e-mail may not be from the claimed sender. Is this a path check or merely spam-filtering based on content?

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    2. Re:the path! Re:This is weird. by Red+Alastor · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In the interest of science, I tried to forge the from field into mails I sent myself to my Gmail address. The first one was sent using Gmail smtp server and they changed it back to my real one.

      The second one was sent from my ISPs smtp server and pretended to be from admin@gmail.com, I got a bright red :

      "Warning: This message may not be from whom it claims to be. Beware of following any links in it or of providing the sender with any personal information."

      The third pretended to from Bill Gates himself (billg@microsoft.com) and didn't raise any flag.

      --
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    3. Re:the path! Re:This is weird. by Technician · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have yet too see an applcation that does (only) this. And "8 out of 10 collegues here (in the IT) don't have a clue what a "path" in a e-mail is.

      And if I was phishing, there are ways to get completely valid headers. For example, I live in the US. From here it is a simple task to send you a valid e-mail from the Cayman Islands. I have an account in the Cayman Islands. Using the Webmail interface, I can send an e-mail from there. If I scam someone in England for example and got the password for one of their e-mail accounts, I could scam someone in England by using the ISP Webmail interface and send a perfectly valid e-mail from the US that originated in England. By signing up for an account in England, using a bogus credit card, I could use VOIP and dial into the ISP in England from England (local number) and send a scam that way. Think outside the box. A local call doesn't have to be local anymore.

      Some Nigerian scammers are using Canadian, Australian, and UK VOIP phones so they don't look like Nigerian scammers until you are hooked and find out where to send the Western Union money. I'm in England and not a Nigerian scammer.

      --
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    4. Re:the path! Re:This is weird. by Technician · · Score: 1

      I just checked my e-mail and this is just in...

                                      Information Regarding Your account:

                          Dear PayPal Member!

                              Attention! Your PayPal account has been violated!

                              Someone with ip address 140.201.76.1 tried to access your personal account!

      Please click the link below and enter your account information to confirm that you are not currently away. You have 3 days to confirm account information or your account will be locked.

                                                                      Click here to activate your account


      The best part is.. I don't have a pay pal account. This scam is so old news. Does anybody still fall for it?

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      The truth shall set you free!
    5. Re:the path! Re:This is weird. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm in England and not a Nigerian scammer.

      Yeahh, i trust you since i am a blonde russian 18 year old girl that wants to get married to you ;). please send me mony now.

    6. Re:the path! Re:This is weird. by Prog_Burner · · Score: 2, Informative

      Most webmail will give the actual originating IP, not just the server IP, so it can be localized. So your e-mail, although sent from a server in the Cayman Islands, should still show an originator in the US. Even taking into account that you may have used a proxy in the Cayman Islands, it's less likely that it would be for the same company that provides the webmail. This is the path of the e-mail that we're talking about, it can still be deemed suspicious by software, especially if there's some sort of history (we are talking about e-mail that appears to be from someone you know and have a relationship with.) Most users wouldn't know what any of this means though, they'll still open an e-mail from unknown sources after how many years of being informed of the danger, so it seems to be more of a matter of education than one of protection.

    7. Re:the path! Re:This is weird. by darkmeridian · · Score: 1

      Did you forge the signatures the same way between the second and third tests?

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    8. Re:the path! Re:This is weird. by Red+Alastor · · Score: 1

      Yes, simply with the Virtual Identity extension for Thunderbird.

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    9. Re:the path! Re:This is weird. by dbIII · · Score: 1
      Some Nigerian scammers are using Canadian, Australian, and UK VOIP phones so they don't look like Nigerian scammers
      Hang on, isn't the entire point of the Nigerian scam that the various people using it are not in or from Nigeria?
  9. C Food by mysticwhiskey · · Score: 5, Funny
    From the beginning, life in the C was perilous. Once in the 'net, our shells were vulnerable. They tried to bait us with spam & worms, and while most found those tasteless, some were hooked.

    Explicitly casting further with new lures, the phishers trolled, hoping for more bytes on the (on)line. The emails of the species were particularly at risk, as their outlook was not so good to begin with.

    Some sought harbour in the eBay, hoping their bet paid off. Last I heard, the feedback was good.

    Maybe our only hope is growing legs and migrating to the LAN.

    --

    Stuck down a hole! In the middle of the night! With an owl!

    1. Re:C Food by MollyB · · Score: 2, Funny

      Does that make us all Bourne-again Crustaceans?

  10. The problem isn't Windows by wk633 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Phishing isn't a technology problem. If your computer has a virus, the bad guys can get your critical data without tricking it out of you. Phishing will always exist due to human nature.

    Case in point: http://www.schneier.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-tb.cgi/474/

    in which a bank manager was convinced to leave 5 million under the door to a bathroom stall in a bar in Paris.

    1. Re:The problem isn't Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The link about the bank fraud doesn't work. Here's the correct link:

      http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-1814 531,00.html

  11. FROM GOVERNMENT SOFTWARE FOUNDATION OF NIGERIA by n0dalus · · Score: 4, Funny

    DO NOT WORRY, my GOOD FRIEND.

    PHISHING claims many LIVES, but YOU TOO can be SAFE when you use our SECURE SOFTWARE to protect your family from PHISHING. BUT alas, my COMPANY lacks FUNDS to share this SECURE SOFTWARE with GOOD PEOPLE like you. THIS TRAGIC moment for our company can only be FIXED by your kind SERVICES. PLEASE transfer ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS to me at the GOVERNMENT SOFTWARE FOUNDATION OF NIGERIA so we can all SHARE this SECURE SOFTWARE.

    ATTACHED is a special TRIAL of this very SECURE SOFTWARE, just for YOU. DO NOT HESITATE to protect yourself from the deadly THREAT of PHISHING.

    1. Re:FROM GOVERNMENT SOFTWARE FOUNDATION OF NIGERIA by halleluja · · Score: 1

      Go find your own scam, Mr. Nigerian Ambassador.

    2. Re:FROM GOVERNMENT SOFTWARE FOUNDATION OF NIGERIA by Maradine · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wait a minute, you're using definite articles, prepositions, and proper plurality! You're not from Nigeria!

      Scam! Scam!!

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      trustedworlds.net - gaming, security, and the gunk that lives in between

    3. Re:FROM GOVERNMENT SOFTWARE FOUNDATION OF NIGERIA by saskboy · · Score: 1

      I got a specialized Nigerian scam email from Lagos a few days ago, tailored to a vehicle I have for sale on my personal webpage. I'm currently in negotiations with the other party, hopefully for some amusing outcome.

      I also forwarded the initial email, and website log [I got a visit from Nigeria to my page minutes before the email], to phonebusters.com in Canada [RCMP] who handle this kind of crime.

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    4. Re:FROM GOVERNMENT SOFTWARE FOUNDATION OF NIGERIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dear Kind Sir,

      After withdrawing my husband's last thousand dollars and paying a fee to put it in a cashier's check, I realized I had no money left to use on international postage to mail it to you in Nigeria.

      If you could kindly send me enough money for international overnight delivery, I could get this $1,000 US to you sooner. I'm willing to do this because I know you are of good reputation. Otherwise, I will have to wait for my husband's next paycheck to be able to afford the postage.

  12. That does it. by sticks_us · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm calling the "Metaphor and Analogy" police, if there is such a thing.

    Why is it that EVERYTHING involving computers and the internets ends up becoming some cutesy-cutesy thing?

    What's next?

    Employee 1: "You hear about Bob?"

    Employee 2: "Yeah, I hear he got spear-phished this weekend. I guess they gutted and scaled him, and supposedly they're going to pan-phry him."

    Employee 1: "Well, it beats being served in a tuna salad!"

    Employee 2: "What the hell, exactly, are we talking about?"

    --
    "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
    1. Re:That does it. by dajak · · Score: 1

      I'm calling the "Metaphor and Analogy" police, if there is such a thing.

      Why is it that EVERYTHING involving computers and the internets ends up becoming some cutesy-cutesy thing?

      What's next?


      Spear-spamming?

    2. Re:That does it. by tim_abell · · Score: 1

      Well, sponge bob is an obvious target for phishing really, given that he lives in the sea.

      --
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  13. In other news... by penguinoid · · Score: 1

    Technology is advancing on all sectors.

    Or does it? Jackont took his computer to the Israeli police last fall and was told to reformat it. But his problems persisted. So the police examined his computer more closely and discovered that a malicious program known as a Trojan horse lay hidden deep inside and had hijacked the machine from a remote location. Trojan horse? That's sooo 1000 BC. Was this trojan hiding in his BIOS or is this guy incompetent?

    The only new thing is this "spear-phishing" is a specialized group of phishers concentrating on specific targets, using usual techniques but more effectively. Hmm, I just *might* use a CD from a friend. I suppose I should point out that Linux is perfectly vulnerable to trojans (sure they won't run as root, but they can do nasty enough stuff as you)

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    1. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      How could one possibly be so incompetent?


      Well, for a starter, the standard way to reformat a Wondows machine, in my experience, doesn't wipe the hard disk, or even the partition. It only removes the top-level directory and lets the rest wait around in empty space.


      Second, from long-ago, partly forgotten experience trying to restore the C: partition containing a Windows XP system fron a tar archice (made and restored using Linux) I suspect that XP has some part of the bootstrap code somewhere outside any file, and outside the MBR. So a so-called quick format could very well fail to touch this. Does anyone know whether there are corners of the system that escape an unquick format?

  14. WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    When you install the OS, the MBR is overwritten.
    Memory resident ones? If he reformatted then he reinstalled the OS and if he reinstalled he rebooted and if he rebooted.... you figure it out.

    GP is correct, the story makes no sense.

    1. Re:WTF? by Andrewkov · · Score: 1

      Maybe he had a cracked application that was infected, and re-installed it after wiping the machine, thereby reinfecting himself.

  15. Drama queen by bumptehjambox · · Score: 5, Funny
    Sorry for the 'spoiler,' but what a grand finale at the end of the article.

    People don't like it when I say this, but it's like being raped. It's like my underwear was spread all over the streets. It was a severe breach of privacy.

    I'd like to be the cop that treats this like they do when they try to tell young girl rape victims its their fault...
    Well, look at ya! is that all you put on as a browser?!
    Yea, this is just what I usually put on, Internet Explorer.
    Well there ya go... You're going out on the internet putting on nothing but a skimpy browser, making all sorts of purchases, without any sort of protection? No wonder you're gettin yourself raped!

    1. Re:Drama queen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Sorry for the 'spoiler,' but what a grand finale at the end of the article. People don't like it when I say this, but it's like being raped. It's like my underwear was spread all over the streets. It was a severe breach of privacy. I'd like to be the cop that treats this like they do when they try to tell young girl rape victims its their fault... Well, look at ya! is that all you put on as a browser?! Yea, this is just what I usually put on, Internet Explorer. Well there ya go... You're going out on the internet putting on nothing but a skimpy browser, making all sorts of purchases, without any sort of protection? No wonder you're gettin yourself raped!
      wtf?!

      what's the relationship btw phishing scam (no software involved) and IE?

      but the enraging thing about this post is: using IE, you WILL make your self vulnerable to 'software' attacks... so if a girl is raped, that really is her fault?!

      it is now clear that geeks should NOT make social/political remarks. Stay in your apolitical closet please-

    2. Re:Drama queen by rifter · · Score: 1

      what's the relationship btw phishing scam (no software involved) and IE?

      IE has a bug that makes it possible to give people links that go to places other than what the IE address bar says they are. This was exploited quite a bit by phishing emails, but Microsoft claimed it was not a serious bug and said they would not fix it. They might have fixed it by now, under pressure, like many other bugs they said they did not care to fix, but that remains to be seen. The fact it was possible to be at one site when the address bar shows something else means there are some serious architectural problems in the interface.

      This is seperate from the fact you can embed a link in html email and name the link differently from the place where it goes, like:

      http://www.citibank.com

      There's not much one an do about that beyond implementing something similar to slashdot's code that shows the domain in a box in the email client. BUt what I am talking about is the bug where you click on the link above and IE *still* says you are at citibank.com (actually to be fair IIRC the link has to do some nasty trick with the @ .. I think it was something like http://www.citibank.com/ ).

    3. Re:Drama queen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      but the enraging thing about this post is: using IE, you WILL make your self vulnerable to 'software' attacks... so if a girl is raped, that really is her fault?

      WWWWHHHHHIIIIIZZZZZZZZZZZ I think thats the joke going riiight over your head...

      Is the reason a girl gets raped the clothes she wears? or is it the rapist's power trip?
      its the same thing here... IE is just the 'cops' scapegoat... its sattire...

      it is now clear that geeks should NOT make social/political remarks. Stay in your apolitical closet please-

      you brought out the bold on that bad boy! I got nothin for that! you just plain MAD!

  16. Better habits.... by Chaffar · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Wieseltier told authorities that she received a Trojan-infested e-mail message bearing the address of gur_r@zahav.net.il, which she believed came from a friend.[...]But her friend's e-mail was actually gur-r@zahav.net

    See why whitelisting your contacts is important ? The problem is that people want to use they computer the way they use their washing machine. They think that just because they have "auto-update on" for Windows and Norton, then they're safe. Unfortunately, they're not. If they use emails irresponsibly, they will get spammed/phished/worse. There is no miracle cure, but good internet "security" habits can help a lot. No amount of software can replace good habits and experience.

    However, I feel that this is a battle that is already lost. How can I convince strangers to pick up good habits if I can't even convince my sister and father? All they care about is having a functional computer to send their emails and type their .docs whenever they need to do so. Any downtime is unacceptable, yet they refuse to acknowledge the fact that any downtime is usually their fault. PCs have become the 'automobiles' of the 21st century:" I don't care how it works, as long as it gets me to where I want to be."

    Bah, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I have too much free time, others don't have the luxury to care about these things. Still I'm the one who ends up fixing the PC/ taking the car to the mechanic....

    1. Re:Better habits.... by L-s-L69 · · Score: 1

      The 'automobiles' and PC's analogy just doesnt stand up. To use a car I have to demonstrate I can handle it and most things that im likley to come accross when using it. In the UK at least drivers have to be proficient in the theory and practise of driving, but any idiot can own a PC. I like to think of PC infection etc like getting pregnant. Yes accidents might happen but most people are bright enough to stop it. If someone does get knocked up (phished or virus infected) then the only deserve help and sympathy if they had taken sufficient steps to prevent it.

    2. Re:Better habits.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It does stand up. Maybe in the UK you have to be knowledgable to drive a car, but in America any idiot can drive a car with the most minimal training.

    3. Re:Better habits.... by Woldry · · Score: 1

      All this idiot (i.e., myself) needed to drive a car in the UK about ten years ago was my Pennsylvania driver's license. And trust me, I would have done better with some "minimal training" in the rules of the road in Britain. The friend with whom I was traveling had to keep reminding me every time we turned onto a new road, "Left! Stay on the left!"

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    4. Re:Better habits.... by rifter · · Score: 1

      It does stand up. Maybe in the UK you have to be knowledgable to drive a car, but in America any idiot can drive a car with the most minimal training.

      Not only that, but most people do not properly maintain their cars. Keeping track of updates, scanning for viruses, maintaining security.. all that is maintenance. But the computer is harder to maintain than a car, and the worst part is there are always new things cropping up that need to be countered with computer security, unlike with cars, where you don't necessarily need to be a mechanic to keep up with maintenance (though it helps) with computers you pretty much have to be following this stuff like IT professionals (or better than most IT professionals actually) to really keep your system secure.

      The systems that are supposed to be designed for the average person to use, like windows, are not designed for the average person to use securely. The only way to make the right things happen reliably is for the path of least resistance to be the right path in the system you design.

      Even now, it's pretty hard for someone who knows what they are doing to make Windows run securely. Many normal programs won't run as a normal user and almost no program installs as a normal user. If you try to use "runas" to install a program, even a microsoft program, it often does not work properly, usually in part due to the way installers deal with profiles and partly with the way they run things on reboot (since practically every installer seems to require a reboot to replace open files even though there are well-documented, safe, and less intrusive methods to do that and needing to replace an open file that is not part of the program you are installing is a sign of bad program design anyway).

      Then if you try the method of running as a normal user and installing as an administrator you run into the problem that most installers are not designed for a multiuser environment in terms of where they put things, like shortcuts. So you end up having to clean up the mess afterward. How are we supposed to convince grandma that she needs to login as "grandma" to use the computer and fast-user-switch to "admin" to install programs. Let's not even get into the problem of "but when I switch to admin the program I downloaded to my desktop is not on the desktop anymore." Basically they will go the way most people, even knowlegeable people, end up going with Windows. They log in as an administrator all the time. Because the "right way" is a pain in the butt and doesn't "work." Because they find out that going to a website that uses an activex control or a strange font means they are "installing" and they can't do it. Because all of a sudden MSWord wants to access it's CD and go through an install routine because it found an update on the microsoft site or they wanted a feature that did not get installed for some reason .. so clicking on a menu item in Word means "installing." Or they put in a USB mouse and that is "installing."

      If you block yourself from being able to install programs on Windows you quickly find out how often a default installation of windows relies on being able to install software without any intervention and without telling you, when you are doingthings as innocuous as surfing the web.

      Windows and windows software was not designed to do things the right way. Linux is closer to the mark and even has projects that make it easier to use in some ways than Windows. But it also has its problems, so it's not ready for the masses either.

      Basically no OS right now is designed from a standpoint of truly providing a secure environment for users to work in easily and intuitively. It's just not something anyone's really shooting for. All of them seem to have some special method of showing hatred ad disdain for the user, if it is not the ridiculous lack of uniform interface standards for Linux (from the gui right down through the filesystem, command line tools, and kernel) to the Windows

    5. Re:Better habits.... by zoloto · · Score: 1

      This might sound rather sad, but this is what I do. Considering how I've been slowly moving family away from Microsoft products and operating systems and to Apple systems, my solution was to set-up their system once they purchased it BEFORE they even touched it.

      I made myself the administrator of the system, gave one of them a "managed" account with a simple finder. All the applications could be used but the restrictions were little enough so they could do everything they needed without access to Terminal, or other programs that were un-needed.

      On another, it pretty much ended up being the same thing but installing some software they needed for work and some recreational stuff (snood for OS X!).

      They've never had a problem since. I do all updates remotely through ssh or Remote Desktop, they themselves never having to worry about it. And I, having the time simply do it for them. They sit behind a nicely admin'd bsd box as well, so - :D nuff said.

      Slightly off topic? Maybe, easier for everyone in the long run? Absolutely.

  17. software patents on SPAM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Can't some of you come up with some software patents on SPAM, spam techniques, etc. Can someone publish some spam code under GPL? We could then use the MPAA and RIAA to fight them?


    Of course the shashdot human-test image word was infects.

  18. yep, I got mine already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got one 'spear-phising' email; it was easy of course to detect the scam involved, but initially it looked like sincere since I am a programmer and from the Netherlands as claimed in the email.

    It reads as follows:

    Hello,
    My friend give me your e-mail address. I think you are from Nederland,so you can help me. I ama programmer, I have some clientsfrom Nederland thatready to paymesending money by Bank transfer toa Nederlandbank account, they cannont use WesternUnion office neartheirplace, but I can receive only WesternUnion transfers here in my country. So - I need to findsomebody who can receive this Bank transfer and re-send moneytome by sending WesternUnion transfer.
    If you help me -you will get 10% from transferred money (10% from 4000EUR=400EUR to you from onetransfer).
    If you are ready to help,please e-mail me to LOOKJOB@AOL.COM.

  19. Spear-phishing by Aceticon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Spear-phishing = social engineering via e-mail

    Instead of telephoning some company and making believe ur their service provider to try and get the root password for some machine, one sends an email disguised as a legit email from a company with which a target company's employee has a commercial relation. Said email contains as payload an agent program which can be used to gather information/control the machine.

    This is more powerfull than old style social engineering, both because you directly get an agent running on a machine inside the target company's network and because the list of potential targets is bigger than just "the person's that have passwords to the company's servers"

    1. Re:Spear-phishing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      This is an e-mail I got today:

      Notice the misspellings.

      Dear Amazon member,

      Due to concerns we have for the safety and integrity of the Amazon community we have issued this warning.

      Per the User Agreement, Section 9, we may immediately issue a warning, temporarily suspend, indefinitely suspend or terminate your membership and refuse to provide our services to you if we believe that your actions may cause financial loss or legal liability for you, our users or us. We may also take these actions if we are unable to verify or authenticate any information you provide to us.

      Please follow the link below:

      http://www.amazon.com.rbaccess.cn?/exec/obidos

      and update your account information.

      We apreciate your support and understanding, as we work together to keep Amazon market a safe place to trade.

      Thank you for your attention on this serious matter.

      Regards,
      Amazon Safety Department

  20. Copy and Pasted stories on slashdot?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NO FREAKIN WAY!

    This must be a first.

  21. What utter crap by MikeyToo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    CNET takes a year-old story about a bitter divorce and revenge, adds some buzzwords, information about very common, almost "old school", spamming and phishing techniques and we're all supposed to run around yelling "The sky is falling!!". Someone must be way behind on their copy output and have the FUD generators turned up to 11.

    I'm sorry for those of you IT types who have managers or "super users" who learned everything they know about computers from reading PC Ragazine or CNET. I'm sure you'll be getting worried calls and emails today. Just what you need on a Monday.

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  22. surprise by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 1

    "It's like the Yom Kippur War or Pearl Harbor in the Israeli business market because of the great surprise the victims had when the problem was exposed,"

    Hard to believe anything is a surprise in that area of the world anymore.

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  23. Phishers marketing is getting better by thogard · · Score: 1

    The latest tricks seem to be offering some special deal and all you have to do is login. Soon I expect most of them will be like "Dear Big Bank customer, you've been picked for 200,000 frequent miles" and the a log in screen with spots for bank and airline details and people may just give away all that info.

    I've seen two messages that are heading in this direction and the banks better step up their education because more people will fall for these than the older scams.

    And this isn't new.... This type of social engineering has been involved in fraud for a very long time.

    1. Re:Phishers marketing is getting better by AutopsyReport · · Score: 1

      Similarily, I got an email yesterday from someone posing to be eBay, except that they pretended to provide a way to login into eBay after your account has been suspended to get your account reinstated. This is a sore spot with many people, see this. So I think your right -- some phishing setup's are perhaps just starting to lose the look and feel of obviousness, and this is not good thing.

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    2. Re:Phishers marketing is getting better by flood6 · · Score: 1
      "Dear Big Bank customer, you've been picked for 200,000 frequent miles" and the a log in screen with spots for bank and airline details and people may just give away all that info.

      The media is going to call that "phly phishing".

  24. Which makes me wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    will there ever be a big push to standardise digital signatures and encryption in mail clients, both online (GMail etc.) and applications?
    It seems to me it would help a lot.

  25. Second Hard Drive by RandoX · · Score: 1

    It's possible that the user had an infected secondary hard drive.

  26. More marketing words by OO7david · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have half a mind to start a company that targets people whose computer freezes from all of the spy/ad/malware by claiming to offer something that will remove it. They, being tired of frozen screens, will give me the info I need.

    I'll call it ice phishing.

  27. Spam Fritter by BarryNorton · · Score: 2, Funny

    I got spam-frittered the other day - they used the old 'spam, spam, spam, egg, chips and spam' attack, luckily I was phishing on the back of a trojan horse on my pharm - still, I was pretty phreaked. You know what I mean?

  28. Phishing or not? by swm · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My health insureance company called.
    First thing they want is my birthday.
    I hesitate, and they say they have to confirm who I am before they can talk to me.
    (Federal privacy regs, HIPAA, and all that).

    I refuse, because I don't know if they are who they say they are.
    They immediately understand, and give me a tool-free number that I can call into.
    After I hang up, I realize that their number doesn't help me, becuase *they* gave it to me.

    It isn't the number on my health insurance card.
    I can't find it on their web page.
    I google for it and get no hits.
    So I still don't know who they are.
    So I don't call the number.

    Phishing? Probably not.
    It probably was my health insurance company.
    But it's been a couple of weeks now, and they haven't called back.
    In the past, when they've wanted to talk to me,
    they've called every few days until they got hold of me.

    So I don't really know...

    1. Re:Phishing or not? by BarryNorton · · Score: 1
      They immediately understand, and give me a tool-free number that I can call into.
      I wish the call centres I have to deal with weren't manned by such tools...
    2. Re:Phishing or not? by Lord+Grey · · Score: 5, Interesting
      I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one.

      A couple of months ago I received a message on my home phone from American Express concerning "suspicious activity on my card." The message said really only that, and that I should call some toll-free number that wasn't printed on my card. There was no identifying information at all in the message, and to make matters stranger they were calling about a business card (they called me at home, not at work).

      So I called the number. I get a person almost immediately and there is quite a bit of background noise on the line. They ask for my card number. When I didn't tell them and started asking questions (trying to determine if the person really did work for AmEx), the guy got insistent and asked for my social security number. I refused to answer and asked more questions, but never got a good answer.

      I eventually hung up on the guy and then looked up AmEx's fraud prevention number in Google and called THAT. It turned out that someone really did hijack the card number from some vendor's database and there were 4-5 bogus purchases. We got the problem cleared up relatively quickly.

      The problem, however, is that the AmEx representative did not come across in a professional manner and his conversation with me served only to make me more suspicious. With all the phishing going on, I'm extremely leery of simply providing personal information upon request.

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    3. Re:Phishing or not? by qwijibo · · Score: 1

      This is the same problem I have with email notifications or marketing from credit card companies. I assume they are all scams. Only the paranoid are safe against these scams.

      What is worse is that the companies use the same kinds of approaches, so it's even more difficult to figure out if any of it is legit. The companies are also victims in these cases, but due to the disconnects between the fraud stats and their customer service, they don't see the big picture. Large companies use "email marketing" as a way of acquiring new customers, without realizing that the only people who will respond to that are also the most likely to be successfully phished.

    4. Re:Phishing or not? by Technician · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A couple of months ago I received a message on my home phone from American Express concerning "suspicious activity on my card."

      So did I. I knew it was a phishing call. I was polite and refused to give my paticulars and asked about the activity. I asked if I gave the last 4 digits if they could verify the address. They said no they needed the full number, exp date, name as it is on the card and the verification number. I then told them I do not have an American Express card. I then called American Express and gave them the phishing information.

      If a bank is having their customer base phished, and you don't have an account, let the bank know anyway instead of ignoring it. You may protect your neighbors.

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    5. Re:Phishing or not? by quag7 · · Score: 1

      If call centers didn't pay like total shit, maybe they wouldn't be.

      Low pay = High turnover = Constant inexperienced agents = Unhappy customers = Customers taking anger out on agents = High stress levels for agents (+ low pay) = High Turnover.

      It's a problem, but it is fundamentally a consequence of call centers being unpleasant places to work. Beyond billing and so on, you can also toss tech support call centers - if you can even get through to one, into that category.

      That being said, there are a lot of call center workers who work their asses off in spite of no support or respect from anyone. Both the call center employees and paying customers get screwed by the attitude some companies take toward customer support.

      Because the problem is so widespread, if you take your business elsewhere, someone is showing up immediately to take your place, coming from some other company they're happy with.

      A sad fact is that when people price out goods and services, they rarely, if ever, take into account the support they will get as a differentiator (there are exceptions; a lot of people like to use local, small businesses because often support is better and more personalized).

      In terms of security, I think you have to have not only skilled agents who know scams inside and out, but agents who management listens to to make policy. Any agent in any center that handles money - billing records, etc. should be able to give feedback to their management which directly and promptly affects policies, processes, and procedures at that company. Agents know a lot that management doesn't because agents are on the "front lines," so to speak, and interact directly with customers.

      In an example given whereby a company was calling a customer, and expecting those customers to hand over confidential information, agents should have been able to tell their management that this was a poor procedure and why, and management should have reacted quickly and worked out an alternative process.

      Some companies do treat their agents this way; many do not. Until people refuse to patronize businesses that treat call centers as a secondary concern or barely necessary evil, these practices will continue.

      In the end it's about the dollar amount people pay per month, or the $5.00 they save on this product vs. that one. It's rarely about support because most people assume they will not need support. I am certain if people could go back in time after a really bad support experience, it would definitely affect what company they went with. Hindsight is 20/20 in this way.

      Blaming call center agents is completely missing the point. If agents are getting $6.00 an hour to sit on the phones, you're not going to get experienced engineers and fraud experts taking those jobs. It's that simple. Even people who take these jobs will wind up considering them McJobs, and will leave as soon as something better comes along.

      It's primarily the fault of management (and cheap outsourcing), and secondarily the fault of consumers who don't care about support departments until they need them.

      As an individual consumer you have no power. None. Do you really think any company cares if you cancel your service? They don't. If a *whole lot of customers* start leaving - over poor security or bad support or whatever, well, that could make a difference. The problem of course is how to coordinate this.

      The bar for support is set low for a reason. And that reason is a financial one.

    6. Re:Phishing or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      > Phishing? Probably not.

      Actually, it probably was.

      You did good.

    7. Re:Phishing or not? by C0rinthian · · Score: 1

      Just call the number on your insurance card. They should be able to verify that it was them trying to contact you, and accomplish whatever the heck it was they were calling about.

    8. Re:Phishing or not? by drawfour · · Score: 1

      I had an issue where I forgot to pay my Sprint bill, and so they called my cell phone. Except that nothing on the display indicated that it was Sprint (I would think that *they* of all people could change what's displayed on my phone if they wanted). The person wanted my credit card or checking account information to pay the bill. I told them I would pay it online by the end of the day. She informed me that if I did not pay immediately, my account would be suspended. I told her that since I did not call her, I have no way of knowing who she is, and all she did was insist that I pay anyway. Needless to say, I refused. I paid online within a couple hours, and there were no problems. However, being the lazy person that I am, I missed a few other payments, and always got a call from the same person. So I started recognizing the voice, but I couldn't believe that these people aren't briefed with proper responses to ensure the customer understands what is going on and still feels safe. The simplest thing would be to say "Dial *2 from your phone to talk to service respresentative about your account" in the case of the phone company (it's simple to verify that *2 is an officially recognized way to talk to a representative). Or for credit cards, etc... say "call the number on the back of your card". I had a similar issue with Dell when I was stupid and missed a payment. They really need to be given proper methods to make the customer feel safe. Threatening me to turn my service off only makes me want to go with another company. Even if it was *my* fault that my payment was late.

    9. Re:Phishing or not? by drawfour · · Score: 1

      *Stupid me. Forgot to "preview" before I submitted.*

      I had an issue where I forgot to pay my Sprint bill, and so they called my cell phone. Except that nothing on the display indicated that it was Sprint (I would think that *they* of all people could change what's displayed on my phone if they wanted). The person wanted my credit card or checking account information to pay the bill. I told them I would pay it online by the end of the day. She informed me that if I did not pay immediately, my account would be suspended. I told her that since I did not call her, I have no way of knowing who she is, and all she did was insist that I pay anyway.

      Needless to say, I refused. I paid online within a couple hours, and there were no problems. However, being the lazy person that I am, I missed a few other payments, and always got a call from the same person. So I started recognizing the voice, but I couldn't believe that these people aren't briefed with proper responses to ensure the customer understands what is going on and still feels safe. The simplest thing would be to say "Dial *2 from your phone to talk to service respresentative about your account" in the case of the phone company (it's simple to verify that *2 is an officially recognized way to talk to a representative). Or for credit cards, etc... say "call the number on the back of your card".

      I had a similar issue with Dell when I was stupid and missed a payment. They really need to be given proper methods to make the customer feel safe. Threatening me to turn my service off only makes me want to go with another company. Even if it was *my* fault that my payment was late.

  29. HOW?! by linforcer · · Score: 0

    From the article:
    The offer required them to respond to INFO@targetdata.biz, a site registered to Haephrati. Responding to them would unleash the Trojan, which, according to records of the investigation, was impervious to antivirus and anti-Trojan software.

    How does simply sending an email "unleash" the trojan?

  30. Add mail header info to email subject lines? by digitaldc · · Score: 1

    I will never open my email or install anything on a PC again, I will become a self-contained unit.
    I am a rock I am an island. And a rock feels no pain, and and island never gets phished.

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  31. Dupe? by MirrororriM · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hate to beat a dead horse, but here is an older Slashdot story about "spear phishing" here ...

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    1. Re:Dupe? by whitehatlurker · · Score: 1

      Seeing that the original story broke in May, this is likely a dupe from the May-June timeframe.

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  32. from TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For the love of god! They took screenshots of his family! The BASTARDS!

  33. What's next? by Ugly+American · · Score: 1

    I predict dynamite phishing.

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  34. Me too by tim_abell · · Score: 1

    Egg (credit cards, UK)
    Phoned me on my cellphone to check an unusual transaction (which I had actually made).
    Fine, except it wasn't even a real person, and the system's first questions were the standard security questions I get when I call them.
    So I hung up and called the number I knew, they confirmed it was them that called. I told them I thought what they were doing was very foolish, but there's only so much you can say to the call centre.

    Still a bit surprised, but what can you do? I wonder if they are still doing it.

    By the way this was months ago.

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  35. This has been around for a while by kalirion · · Score: 1

    Here's an editorial from over a year ago. The top topic is about a virus sent to a user of outpostnine from "management@outpostnine.com". The sender of the email didn't realize that the intended victim was actually the sole manager of the site.

  36. Wow Mods, pay attention at all? by OverlordQ · · Score: 2, Informative
    A) Not only does your link not work
    B) The man only left 358,000 Euros, not 5 million.

    The man, described by detectives as the greatest conman they had encountered, convinced one bank manager to leave him 358,000 in the lavatories of a Parisian bar.
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  37. "Spear" phishing? by Entropy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Spear Phishing? Because it "targets specific people" ?

    Okay:

    Jelly phishing - targeting politicians.

    Salmon phishing - targeting gays.

    Flounder phishing - targeting christians.

    Tuna phishing - targeting pianists.

    Shark phishing - targeting lawyers.

    I am sure we could come up with others :)

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  38. Classified Ads by chill · · Score: 1

    I placed a local classified ad (print newspaper in rural Idaho) to sell a puppy a couple weeks back. It included my e-mail address if anyone wanted pictures.

    One response I received was one in broken English asking for pictures and if the price was firm. I responded with photos and the price. The next response was 4 paragraphs of an overdraft money order scam, telling me they'd arrange for someone to pick up the dog, but to wire the excess funds back to an account in London, etc.

    I was sort of impressed, considering how targeted the scam was.

      -Charles

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    1. Re:Classified Ads by giant_toaster · · Score: 1

      My father is a wedding photographer, we had someone email him and ask for him to do photos in America, they said they could pay for travel and everything, but we would have to let them borrow some money first, so they could be sure that we would turn up.... He didn't do it funnily enough! Spear-phishing is just social engineering

  39. Not much different from "remote dumpster diving" by Vexler · · Score: 1

    I am amazed to no end that once in a long while the media gets its hands around a concept that has been around for years. They then trump it up as this Next Big Thing (tm), only to shamefully admit later on that, no, it's actually been done before.

    This is really not much different from remote dumpster diving. If I wanted specific, personal information from someone, I wouldn't need to go through very much trouble in getting it. Just as a security-conscious person would shred sensitive documents before committing them to the bin, one should also be careful revealing personal information to unknown individuals or companies asking for such sensitive information.

  40. MOD parent up by TekGoNos · · Score: 1

    He correctly points out that webmail does put the originating IP in the email-header, and therefor can be traced.

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  41. Not CNET. by antdude · · Score: 1

    It's New York Times. CNET posted NYT's story on their Web site.

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  42. Authentication by Detritus · · Score: 1
    It isn't a new problem. When I was in the military, we were taught methods of authenticating the people we were talking to on our two-way radios. You have to assume that the enemy is going to listen to your radio networks and try to disrupt them and insert false information and orders.

    It would be helpful if large companies had a simple way for their customers to authenticate email and telephone calls from that company. The phishers are getting better at what they do, and sometimes it is almost impossible to tell if an email is fake.

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  43. Sometimes legit by Digz · · Score: 1

    I have had two of those calls, and the person on the other end wanted to confirm recent transactions. Both calls were legit, but it's hard to know given the limited info they give. So I called the bank's number on the back the second time, and found out that someone was trying to use my card number in Sweden.

    Old number cancelled, new card issued, situation resolved.

    But still, the banks should let you know the numbers of the fraud departments that will be calling beforehand. The number they wanted me to call back on was totally different than the other numbers I had.

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    1. Re:Sometimes legit by C0rinthian · · Score: 1

      Fully agreed. The numbers they give need to be verifiable, or else they don't help at all.

  44. Phishing by lupinstel · · Score: 1

    If they are going to use the word "phishing" they at least need to haxor-up the word "spear" a little bit. Call is "Sphear phishing" or something 1337 like that.

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  45. Infection surviving a drive "format" can be done by abb3w · · Score: 1
    So he reformatted his drive but the virus was still there? What?

    1) He was told to; this does not mean he did it.
    2) He may not have done a proper full (MBR) reformat
    3) He may have backed up the infection vector with his "important" files, on other infected media.
    4) If the infection vector was via email, he might have redownloaded and reopened the message from a POP/IMAP server that retained a copy.

    It is also theoretically possible to make something that will survive anything short of degaussing or reformatting after taking apart the hard drive. Modern hard drives often include flashable firmware, a simple (roughly 486 grade) processor, and as much as 16MB of RAM. This is potentially powerful enough for a custom microkernel on the drive itself, able to meddle with the boot process and rootkit the OS as it loads into the machine's RAM. To implement something like this, a Black Hat would need to know the exact model drive and its firmware release, probably know the same on the motherboard as well, be able to work at (likely proprietary) machine language level for that model hard drive control board, and there would be nil room for error. On the bright side for the black hat, if done with the skill I'd expect from someone able to do the work at all, the only signs of infection would be a modest decrease in the hard drive performance, a few sectors marked as "bad", and the odd bit of (potentially intermittent and encrypted) network traffic.

    I'd bet on numbers 1-4, though. A hard drive native rootkit is at least one full level beyond what Sysinternals called "a level of sophistication not seen in rootkits to date" on their RootkitRevealer page. Probably more than one. As far as I know, not even a lab example of such has been reported developed, and it doesn't sound like this guy is high enough on the NSA's SPECIAL Christmas card list to be likely to encounter one of their toys. But I like keeping the tin-foil hat crowd awake at night. =)

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  46. Old hat, traditional defense by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 1

    What gets me about this is that it's not new. Telephone scams of a similar nature have been around forever. And the defense is the same for both: never trust the other party if you didn't originate the call. Whether I'm getting an e-mail from PayPal about my account being locked or a phone call from American Express about potentially fraudulent activity on my card, my first reaction is to simply ignore everything the caller/sender tells me. I go to my own bookmarks and get to my account on the respective web sites from my own links, or I call the customer-service phone numbers I've already got for them. If the problem's real, there'll be a notice when I log in to my account or the customer service people will know about it. My URLs and phone numbers can't be fudged by the phishers, so I can be sure I got to the right site or company. This is simple, basic and easy. If people can't apply this simple rule, I have to ask "What's wrong with this picture?".

  47. They are getting better by Fenster+Karton · · Score: 1

    I just got an email from "EBay" (yeh, sure) that said they would add $20 to my account for taking a short survey. After the survey they ask for your credit card "so they can make the deposit". If it were real they would deposit to your PayPal registered at Ebay. I also got a letter from Canada telling me I had won $95,000 and enclosed was a check on an Illinois bank for a Minnesota company that ostensibly was for the tax I need to pay to release the 95. I think they call this a 419 scam if I remember rightly. Check bounces and you are out the $1900 you paid the "taxes" with. Very psychological but I know if it seems to be too good to be true ... well it for sure is. I called the sheriff but they told me attempted fraud is not a crime - I actually have to be defrauded before they get involved. If that isn't the stupidest thing I ever heard I don't know what is. A genuine WTF.